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Nathan Crane is an award-winning author, inspirational speaker, plant-based athlete, event producer and 18x award-winning documentary filmmaker. Nathan is the Founder of The Panacea Community, Creator of the Global Cancer Symposium, and Director and Producer of the documentary film, Cancer; The Integrative Perspective. He is also the Director of Strategic... Read More
Elaine is The Healthy Lifestyle Designer. She is founder of Renewed Living and the creator of the Extraordinary Living Made Easy Method. Cited as one of the world’s top ten natural cancer survivors by Extreme Health Radio (#4), having beaten Stage IV Cancer without traditional protocols, Elaine shares her hard-won... Read More
- The top six integrative solutions Gibson followed to heal stage 4 cancer
- How Elaine overcome cancer twice in her 60’s and is now healthier than ever at 75
- How to harness the power of oxygen to reverse a cancer diagnosis
Nathan Crane
Hey it’s Nathan Crane, Director of the Health and Healing Club and Host of the Conquering Cancer Summit and today I am honored and excited to welcome you to a very special interview. Hello, everybody and welcome to the Global Cancer Symposium, 2.0. My name is Nathan Crane. I’m the Award-Winning Filmmaker of Cancer, the Integrative Perspective, as well as the Director of the Health and Healing Club which you can learn more about healthandhealingclub.com. Go check that out after today’s interview, but I’m really excited to bring to you a very special friend, colleague, even I’d say a mentor, Elaine Gibson, to talk with us about her journey in redefining the impossible and how she beat stage IV cancer with an integrative approach. Elaine is known as the Healthy Lifestyle Designer. She’s founder of Renewed Living and the Creator of the Extraordinary Living Made Easy Method.
She has been cited as one of the world’s top 10 natural cancer survivors by Extreme Health Radio, having beaten stage IV cancer without traditional protocols. We’re gonna go into exactly what she did to redefine this impossible. What we think is impossible, but actually it’s quite possible when we know what we’re doing, she didn’t use traditional protocols and she shares her hard won lessons for living a disease free, extraordinary life. She works from the principle that it is possible through intentions and natural clean living to counteract the stressful and health damaging effects that modern living has on the body, mind and our relationships. She’s a highly sought after speaker, author, mentor, and a green juice loving grandmother. Her website is renewedlivinginc.com. I encourage you to take a look at the website after our interview today. Elaine, thank you so much for being here.
Elaine Gibson
Oh my goodness. Thank you so much. Hi, I’m honored to be here and I just cherish the work that you do.
Nathan Crane
Yeah, thank you so much. I love what you do and how you coach and inspire and guide people with hope and possibility, and you have your own journey to speak from.
Elaine Gibson
Yeah.
Nathan Crane
And then all your years of research and on top of it. So that’s brings so much value to people and I wanna dive right into your story. You had stage IV cancer, probably one of the scariest things for anybody to hear in their life.
Elaine Gibson
My God.
Nathan Crane
Can you talk about, first of all when was that? What year was it and what was it like? What were you feeling? What did you think when you first got your diagnosis?
Elaine Gibson
Well, in 2001 I had a six month bout with stage I non-Hodgkin lymphoma. And then in 2008 which we know is more than five years, we thought we were all done, my medical team said “You’re done, bye.” And then all of a sudden Evan and I came back from the Galápagos Islands and a month later, and I was feeling all these things in my body. And finally, one thing led to another led to another led to that. People like you and I and probably the people that participate in the symposium is we advocate for ourselves and just push them and push them, and then all of a sudden, much to my surprise, my medical team told me that I was diagnosed with stage IV non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. And I went,
Nathan Crane
Wow.
Elaine Gibson
What? I thought you said this was done. And they told me that they did not expect me to see my grandchildren grow up, yeah.
Nathan Crane
What a terrifying thing to hear. So 2001 you…
Elaine Gibson
2001 was just like
Nathan Crane
Well, what was the treatment that you did for stage I?
Elaine Gibson
Interestingly, almost the same that I did at a lesser amount. I actually went out of the country because they, I was looking for low-dose chemotherapy at that time. And it was a shock it’s like, what? And where I went, if they’re not even around anymore, but so I came home and I did everything. So when you had low-dose chemotherapy and we had far infrared, and hyperbaric chambers and ozone insufflation, and I did some of my, and I did some diet changes. But I was done in six months I was, I’m pretty healthy person. Today as you and I are speaking, I’m 75 years old. And so
Nathan Crane
And you look like, and you look like you’re 55. So what you’ve been doing has been working.
Elaine Gibson
Thank you, like I could be your sister instead of your mother, right? Yeah, and then I just went on about my way. I didn’t really think about it much ’cause it was so fast and so quick. And then, like I said, all of a sudden, and it was like, oh my God. So I kinda took a deep breath and I came home and Nathan, I had this hand needle point area rug, it looks like Monet’s garden. And I literally fell to my knees.
Nobody’s around, after I had stopped crying, I fell to my knees and I looked up and I said, okay, God, I know I’m not gonna die, it’s not what you have in store for my children. My children had lost all of four their grandchildren the last two years. Just tell me what you want me to learn. Now, I had no spiritual journey up until then. Don’t ask me where it came from. I do know where it came from now, but I didn’t know then. I was the only person walking the face of the earth that wasn’t aware that I was dying. And I think that was, that was a big deal.
So I’m an athlete and I went into training. And it was okay, what do the healthiest people do? What is the foundation of health? And because I went immediately into game mode, I’m used to be in training. I was a tournament tennis player, and you get in the gym and you get ready for the championship and that’s really what we were doing. So I went back to Mexico and I was there for three weeks. I was probably the one of the only people, clearly the only person I’ve ever heard of that lost their hair with low-dose chemotherapy.
Nathan Crane
Interesting.
Elaine Gibson
I was like, yeah, that’s how compromised I was. And I came home in, this was in February and I, there I am this. So let me just say that my mindset was, have you ever met a Jewish grandmother from New York city that will hear a word or believe a word that you’re saying? You just don’t know the animal, and animal in the highest evolution. So I literally, and I had pictures of my grandchildren. I didn’t have that many grandchildren and I had a little teddy bear with my grandson’s picture that I still sleep with it, Nathan. This is like really weird. But it was all that mindset. So in two years, I just about two years I was clean, and which was amazing.
Again, I did all those same things now this is, as I look back on it, was part of the journey. So I found a treatment center here in Northern Virginia, I’m outside of Washington DC. But I had a far-infrared sauna in my house. I was sitting in it every day.I did, listen we just need to be honest with your view is that that’s why we’re here. I did ozone insufflation which means I was at a catheter and I was doing it rectally twice a day for years. And I changed my diet a little bit. And in, by the close of 2009 I was clean again. And people say, well, why did you go this route? And I know it’s not for everybody, but I knew that, I believe that I didn’t wanna put any more toxins and chemicals into my body because intoxicating chemicals kind of got me where I was. So, it was like how do you ask the right questions, asking the right questions.
And then early 2009, I discovered ionized alkaline water. I discovered Dr. Otto Warburg, his research about oxygen and cancer. So we learned that cancer is an anaerobic cell, can not live in the presence of oxygen. That’s all I needed to hear. And I wanna say to everybody that when you can dumb it down, when you can bring it in that narrowly. So from there I asked myself four or five, six times a day anybody that will listen, anybody that works with me, how do I get alkalinity and oxygen in my body now? And that is the basis of how I live.
And then two years later, I met Lisa Wilson at the Raw food Institute, and I walked in and you’ll love this. I don’t know if you knew this so we walked in, it was a seven day immersion and she hand out a green juice. I drank green juice, I’m talking green juice, I’m medicinally trained. So now a rough food educator, an introduced therapist and all that. I drank green juice for two hours. It was like, my cells are going, yeah, girl, you’re finally getting this. And since that day I have never looked back. I lost 28 pounds just trying to live. And that’s kind of where I am now.
Nathan Crane
It’s incredible. So I wanna go
Elaine Gibson
Amazing
Nathan Crane
back a little bit, yeah and you’ve turned this
Elaine Gibson
It was well.
Nathan Crane
I wanna talk about how you’ve turned this into a life of purpose and meaning and how you’ve gone from the fear and the anxiety of it all and the mindset behind it. You touched a little bit, but I wanna dive into that ’cause it’s so important for people. But just to recap, so 2001 it’s stage I, you did over six months, did some different therapies, ozone, so low-dose chemotherapy for people don’t know another name for that is IPT and some potentially therapy. It is the chemotherapy that if you guys do chemotherapy, the one that I would always suggest because it’s low dose, it’s targeted, it doesn’t destroy your immune system as much as just a huge shot of chemotherapy. And usually, if you’re getting IPT, you’re getting it from an integrative doctor, right?
Elaine Gibson
Exactly.
Nathan Crane
Who’s going to help you and educate you on, okay, let’s take care of your immune system. Let’s get you the right diet.
Elaine Gibson
Exactly.
Nathan Crane
Let’s exercise, let’s do all the other things.
Elaine Gibson
Vitamin IVs and everything else
Nathan Crane
But it’s not a magic bullet, right, low-dose chemotherapy is not a magic bullet, it helps and it can help shrink a tumor. It can help to kill cancer cells. But if you’re not doing all those additional things that you were doing, right? Your odds.
Elaine Gibson
Do matter.
Nathan Crane
Yeah, exactly your odds of overcoming the cancer. So six months you were cancer-free, did you go back to kind of the normal lifestyle you had? You said you changed your diet a little bit, but then did you go back to
Elaine Gibson
I was aware, I was kind of aware of sugar and I was having a pretty healthy lifestyle but I really didn’t give up dairy then I didn’t, I probably gave up a little bit of wheat and sugar but no, I didn’t. And
Nathan Crane
What do you think made it come back the second time?
Elaine Gibson
Come back, who knows. You want to know the truth, now I kind of feel that it was just supposed to be part of my journey. I’m that may sound like really crazy to other people, but I didn’t change, obviously there was something in my body, there’s cancer in my, there’s cancer in my family. The other thing that happened is that I had a Greek Test and where they send your blood and everything would they, at this time when I was dealing it they didn’t do any of this testing in me in the States.
So they sent it to it to a lab in Greece where they say the correct agents for your, for your treatment. It came back two things. Number one, R-CHOP, none of those drugs work for me. Interesting, that was not my cocktail for my low-dose. So I got the right, this is back in like September of 2008. And it came back that I had a gene out of whack and it came back that taking verapamil every day and it straightened out the gene. So you talk about integrative approach, this is all of it, is every corner of the earth. So I got the right treatment and I got the right combination and right recipe and I had a gene taken care of. Now we don’t really do that here. We still don’t do it here.
Nathan Crane
Yeah.
Elaine Gibson
So maybe hopefully it’s one of the things that is moving forward coming through the kind of work that you’re doing and bringing more of this forward into the world.
Nathan Crane
Well, you’ve mentioned that you feel like you got it the second time. It obviously came back with a vengeance, it was stage IV
Elaine Gibson
It did, it did.
Nathan Crane
at that point, seven years later. You feel like you it came for a higher reason, a bigger purpose. And it makes sense with the great work you’ve been doing and have been doing to help people all over the world and dealing with cancer. And I just wanna encourage people after this interview, go listen to the interview I did with Bobbi Vogel, she’s a Medical Intuitive. And we talked all about this in depth from a very spiritual perspective. And it was a really beautiful, insightful interview, if you’re, wanna go deeper into that, and I want you to share a little more as well, Elaine, but go listen to that interview I did with Bobbi Vogel.
Elaine Gibson
It’s great.
Nathan Crane
It’s really insightful, but that’s one of the things we talked about which is like how spirit, universe, God, source, whatever you wanna call it, intuition guides us and can guide us in our lives.
Elaine Gibson
Right.
Nathan Crane
To learning what we need to learn to become the best version of ourselves, up leveling ourselves,
Elaine Gibson
Exactly.
Nathan Crane
becoming, reaching our higher potentials. And it sounds like that’s maybe what the second diagnosis did for you. Is that right?
Elaine Gibson
It did. And I’ll tell you that one of the things that I actually learned from your film, the documentary that you did that we had was that the concept that we don’t catch cancer, that our body creates it what’s happening in our body. And that to me, was a monumental switch of a flipping of the switch. It was an awareness that was huge. The other thing that I learned from the film and I really really, really encourage everybody to see it is that the personal challenges that we, the emotion and the heartache in the things that we don’t work through and that all the people that we were hearing at the conference, we just came from and from your studies and everything that you’ve produced is that there’s always some emotional, really big thing, either it builds up and when we don’t deal with it and what I’ve come to learn since then, going back to oxygen is that when we’re there and we’re in the past, and what hecker totally caused the pain body, and we never get rid of that, we stay in an acidic state.
And I had lost both my parents that I never dealt with it. Not really, I was the only one standing, you become an orphan, you become the matriarch and all these things that you don’t work out. But now that I’ve done that, the interesting thing is that I’m no longer afraid. And until I switched to raw foods and that food plant-based lifestyle, I literally am a juiceaholic. Green juice, I don’t juice fruit and all that stuff. Just, I probably have three 16 ounces of organic green juice every day. But it
Nathan Crane
And are you still doing, are you doing a hundred percent raw food, or what is your diet look like?
Elaine Gibson
No, I’m, my diet’s probably about anywhere from 75 to 95.
Nathan Crane
That’s still really high.
Elaine Gibson
That’s high. Well, yeah you feel so much better.
Nathan Crane
And yeah, so Dr. Cousens says, Dr. Gabriel Cousens
Elaine Gibson
Right.
Nathan Crane
who’s a leading authority in this field.
Elaine Gibson
Right, it’s the 80/20 rule.
Nathan Crane
Yeah, exactly, anything over 70. And I believe he told me last time I interviewed him, anything over 70% raw food and you’re gonna have exponential.
Elaine Gibson
Yes, exactly, exactly. And the thing is that until I had a plan and I knew what was going on, what I could do, I was still afraid. When I had that when I was clean when I got my clean diagnosis, Nathan, I was covered from here to here. My pet skin is like a Christmas tree. I had to lock that away ’cause I didn’t want it in my office. I didn’t want that energy here. And when I went to this the center in Fairfax, Virginia which has since closed, they had me pick the Infusion Nurse, had me pick a Fairies Card, an Oracle Card. I didn’t even know what they were. And I swear, I picked Miracle Healing. And they’re like, oh my God, she’s gonna need more than a miracle girlfriend, yeah. But isn’t that amazing? Yeah.
Nathan Crane
You got your miracle. Yeah.
Elaine Gibson
I did, I did. It was generally a miracle.
Nathan Crane
Yeah, but your miracle was hard work, right? It was lifestyle change.
Elaine Gibson
It was a lot of hard work. But exactly.
Nathan Crane
It was changing your habits, changing your diet, changing what you put in your body, how you took care of yourself. Like that’s what people need to understand is that I really don’t believe there will ever be a magic cure or bullet for cancer. We’ve never seen one. I really don’t think we ever will because when you understand the human body, human minds, you know there’s just not one thing that caused your cancer most of the time.
And there’s not one thing that’s gonna get rid of it most of the time. Sometimes you hear of these miracle healings that happen when someone releases a trauma like that, right? It was stored neuropeptide stored in the body, turned to cancer. All they do is release a really acute as well as long-term chronic emotional trauma. And then that disease goes away, but that’s not appeal, that’s not and you have to face that work too. So what was your journey like going through that emotional healing? What did you do?
Elaine Gibson
Well, the interesting thing is that I didn’t have much emotional attachment to my journey. As I look back on it, it’s like, how could you not? I think I was so consumed with figuring it out, and I’m just saying what I did. I’m not telling anybody else to, I didn’t go to cancer support groups. I went back to my athletic teams. I was moving, I wanted to be around people that were incredibly healthy. So I literally was in training and it was my focus in the future and in the present and I never claimed it, I didn’t, whatever it was, it didn’t attach itself to me.
I made it really attach itself to me. But interestingly, it didn’t go any further. People with my diagnosis there was nothing more than kind of like the peripheral area. There were no stem cells, there was no bone marrow, nothing like that which it really should have. And I really feel that the oxygenating, my cells so quickly with the juice and with the water were huge for me. And the interesting thing is that I started to feel so good that it became a feeling of abundance rather than deprivation. So what I learned is that as we bring the really good stuff into ourselves, I kind of came up with, and this is really a concept that I teach is that our cells are starving.
Nathan Crane
Right.
Elaine Gibson
And that came out of a workshop that somebody was doing with me to get my work and my programs together. I didn’t know how to explain it she said, “Well, your cells are starving.” I said, yeah, we got that one. And I was
Nathan Crane
Yeah, talking about green juice, nurses into sales. Talking about Lisa Wilson’s retreat. I was a speaker at her retreat one year.
Elaine Gibson
Yes I know.
Nathan Crane
And I remember going, and you just load yourself on green juice. Well,
Elaine Gibson
Yes.
Nathan Crane
we do green juice here at my house every morning. Because you’re nourishing yourselves with all those phytonutrients and that oxygen, that fresh vitamins and minerals is what your body needs. And that’s obviously one thing to do. What would you say are your top five or seven things that you did after the second diagnosis?
Elaine Gibson
After.
Nathan Crane
That you feel were the most impactful. You said ozone therapy, green juice, the oxygenated water, right? So there’s three, what else?
Elaine Gibson
I become a huge meditator. I meditate an hour before my feet hit the ground in the morning.
Nathan Crane
Do you do your own thing or do you follow any?
Elaine Gibson
No, no, this morning I spent about an hour and 15 minutes with Abraham.
Nathan Crane
Okay, nice.
Elaine Gibson
I go to sleep so I do a lot of Joe Dispenza.
Nathan Crane
Yup.
Elaine Gibson
Eckhart Tolle and I have on my phone, I have Chakra Music Healing and that’s really what I use. I need, mildly guided because left to myself, it just won’t happen. And then
Nathan Crane
I find that guided meditations are beautiful.
Elaine Gibson
Yeah.
Nathan Crane
They’re really
Elaine Gibson
Right, and they’re amazing. And the interesting thing is that my son is now a huge meditator also. He’s a sports guys, he’s a sports analyst and he, and his wife and his family, they all do green juice and he’s 50, and my daughter is 52 and she and her husband, like green juice and everybody’s in the gym and everybody. So I’ve become aware of the fact that I am 75 and that it’s about passing it on as my legacy. And then the other, the last, the fifth one I would say is getting out in nature. Since I’m a city girl, my husband and I closed our house of 30 years a year ago, June, and we moved out to the country and that’s part of the journey. It’s getting out in nature would be.
Nathan Crane
Beautiful, and so I and actually and I forgot to mention which you talked a lot about was the IPT, the low-dose chemo.
Elaine Gibson
Yes, yes.
Nathan Crane
So that would have been numbers number six, right? ‘Cause everything else was natural was more holistic if you will which supports as we talked about low-dose chemo. So in nature, talking about nature, there is a NASA study that my wife found a while ago that especially with the pandemic and the lock downs and everyone who’s been indoors for so much time, months and months, you are exposed to exponentially more toxins in your house than you are outside. So, and I know you also work with a great company with air purifiers and so forth.
Elaine Gibson
Exactly.
Nathan Crane
People can learn all about all that at your website renewedlivinginc.com. But I wanna share a natural thing, talking about nature that everyone should be doing right now is putting more plants in your house.
Elaine Gibson
Yup, do you see that behind me?
Nathan Crane
Yeah, I know they are now, but my wife just keeps buying more and more and more and putting them in every room because what NASA found was one plant per 100 square feet of your house. So one plant, just do the math. And that’s basically what you need to purify majority of the VOCs is the toxins out of the air. And some plants are more effective at this than others like aloe vera.
Elaine Gibson
Right.
Nathan Crane
They said aloe vera a single olive plant is more effective than something like five or seven, just standard air purifiers that purifying VOCs is out of the air. That was really fascinating. So she just took our big aloe vera plant we’ve had for a few years and cut it into like four plants, and just putting them all around the house.
Elaine Gibson
Moved it around, yeah.
Nathan Crane
But I just wanna share that getting outside nature number one, bringing nature into your home, absolutely.
Elaine Gibson
Exactly, exactly. And you’re right. We do work with air purification systems that replicate nature with negative ions. And in fact, the research they did, didn’t even get a chance to tell you about has come back, I guess, last month that it does take care of COVID of this particular virus. There has been research on everything else, but this being new, they did go back and do the research on it. And yeah, it’s a big deal. It’s probably one of, as you’re thinking about it, it’s probably one of the reasons that I really didn’t get sick when I had, cause I had the air purification systems. So everything is out of the air. There’s no toxins. There’s nothing around me. You come to my house, probably the safest place in the world for you right now.
Nathan Crane
Well, I wanna say you are living inspiration for people.
Elaine Gibson
Oh, thank you.
Nathan Crane
You, if I did the math correctly, you overcame cancer a second time when you were around 66 and now you’re 66, 67 now you’re 75 looking younger and healthier than you’ve probably been in quite a few years?
Elaine Gibson
Forever, forever.
Nathan Crane
It’s incredible. So, thank you for what you do. I do encourage people to go to your website, renewedlivinginc.com. They can work with you. They can learn from you. You got all kinds of great resources for people, but as we wrap up, what are some maybe final thoughts of hope or inspiration for people who are deciding, or they’re already down their path of healing and they need some hope, some guidance, some inspiration, what would you say to people?
Elaine Gibson
It’s one of the things that we just left off with, turn to nature. I believe that we are designed to thrive in nature. It’s God’s garden. And turn to nature, take a deep breath and stay present so that there’s not as much, listen, I’m not negating it. This is scary stuff. But when you go into game mode and you ask yourself what do I need to learn? What do I need to learn? What’s the foundation? How do I get oxygen in my body? How do I get oxygen in my body? What’s the food we eat, the water we drink, the air we breathe, chemicals we use, because it’s all the same thing.
It’s bringing our bodies back to the way they’re designed. So I would say that the biggest thing is to find a way to be present. If you don’t meditate, find a way to do that. Take five minutes, a couple of times a day, turn on some nature, music on your phone. Just find a way to be centered. When you do that, you’re in a place to make really good decisions. We wanna make our decisions no matter what they are, from strengths, not from weakness. And we wanna make them from being confident rather than being concerned, and that’s one of the things we do. We take people from being confused and concerned, to being confident and with clarity. So find a way to center yourself so that you’re in a good place so that you can make good choices.
Nathan Crane
Beautiful, I love that. I’m glad that you brought that up because when someone has a cancer diagnosis, there’s a lot of fear, anxiety,
Elaine Gibson
Of course. concern which is totally understandable. But if you can get centered, calm, relaxed, and get to that place with more certainty and ask those questions, ask for guidance, look for the right solutions. You’re so much more likely to find the path that you need to heal, right? And to awaken and to experience that higher potential of your life. So thank you, Elaine.
Nathan Crane
Oh, thank you so much. I love and appreciate you so much for all you’re doing.
Elaine Gibson
Thank you. Thank you for the work that you’re doing, Nathan, and we need it. The world really needs it, especially now.
Nathan Crane
Yeah, yeah, so true and I wanna thank everyone for tuning into the Global Cancer Symposium. Make sure to share this with your friends, family, colleagues, anyone who needs this information, who needs this inspiration, who needs to hear this today. Also make sure to visit renewedlivinginc.com. You can learn more about working with Elaine where she can coach you, guide you, help you with her programs, books, and so forth on your own personal healing journey. And I encourage you to visit healthandhealingclub.com. You can learn about the global membership dedicated to helping you get and stay healthy. Again, I’m Nathan Crane, and I wish you all ultimate health and happiness, take care.
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