CHI Holistic Health Coach

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

All right, ladies and gentlemen. So pleased today to introduce you to a good friend of mine. She’s a pro soccer player turned functional diagnostic nutrition practitioner. She’s a courage coach and a holistic beauty expert. Just look at her and you can tell. Diane Kazerhas been through so many health struggles with empathy and with very fierce leadership. She’s your go-to girl for breakthrough anything, no matter what you’ve tried, or what you’ve been told before. She’s an intuitive healer. She’s the author of Killer Breasts, a step by step guide to overcoming breast implant illness, which is huge today and I’m sure you know why. She’s a producer of the Non Toxic Beauty Summit and creator of Cleanse Heal Ignite, that’s CHI. That’s a program which helps women use the power of intuition to discover their inner healer by providing with lifelong tools that can reverse breast implant illness, hormonal imbalances, chronic pain, gut infections, emotional trauma, and the infamous perfectionism that so many of us are infected with today. Even men! Her mission is to educate and empower passionate women leaders with safer beauty, body and breast solutions from products and procedures to diet and detox, so they can age gracefully—thank God for that—with the energy and vitality they need to step into their power, speak their voice, speak their truth and spark their purpose. So Diane, I’m just really proud of you for being here. Thanks so much. 

Diane Kazer

Thanks Reed. It’s awesome because usually I’m the one interviewing you. So it’s really cool to be on the other side of it today. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Fantastic. Well, listen, I apologize for any sirens in the background, I’m in the middle of London, United Kingdom. 

Diane Kazer

Yeah. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

I think these cops, they stay in the station until it’s time to go out, when they go out, they just go out screaming, and then they run back to the station. There’s no patrol cars. So when you’re speaking, I’ll be turning my speaker thing off. Anyway— 

Diane Kazer

I went to this school in London for six months. So I know that. It’s even at nighttime, two in the morning, it just never stops. [Laughing] 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

It’s amazing. Yeah, of course. I’m on California time, so I’m awake at three in the morning and all that. So anyway, I’m so glad to be speaking with you. As one of the people that took the FDN program, I got to know you really well. I just can’t tell you how much I appreciate your realism. You’re just someone who says it like it is, speaks to mind and I couldn’t be prouder. I want you to go into a little bit about your background, how you got here and then tell us, what is CHI? Why did you create it? 

Diane Kazer

Yeah, sure. So you talked about my book and here it is, it’s my Killer Breasts book. So you can see—we call them ticking time bombs and the toxic beauty world, which actually toxic beauty is a term—I wouldn’t say that I coined—but when we look at toxic beauty we’re thinking about, “Okay, what is it that we need to perfect or fix about our body to fit into a society that says that we need to look a certain way?” Right? Which is constantly changing. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. 

Diane Kazer

No wonder why we have “adrenal fatigue”, no wonder why we have thyroid problems. Because we don’t even know what our voice is because we’re trying to fit the mold of what society says that we should be. It’s hard to keep up with the Kardashians, let alone all the other people who dictate what beauty looks like. So I call myself the toxic beauty whistleblower, and I’m totally okay with that. I know I’m gonna get a little pushback from it, but there’s a part of me that really wants to stand up for 13 year old, inner child, Diane, inner teenager that really wanted to fit in and be popular and be loved. And when you change schools or when you’re bullied like I was in the seventh grade, you do what you can to fit in. Then you forget what your magic is that allows you to stand out. The gift that you came here to create in this world, which is why I say I want to help women, and everybody really, because when women step into their power and they can feel their true purpose and they can spark that inner calling and that magic within them, they’re unstoppable. Our world right now, now more than ever, needs women and people who are gonna step up to protect this planet, because if we don’t have a planet here, we don’t even have a home. So, toxic media sucks. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Amen, sister. 

Diane Kazer

Yeah. It’s like you could have the most perfect looking lips injected with a bunch of chemicals and a frozen face without wrinkles—and I say this without judgment, because this was me a while ago—we could have the most perfect looking face, but what’s the point if we don’t even have humans to connect with or people to witness us. Botox is one of the most—it is the single greatest toxic—most toxic substance in the world. They used it in Gulf war to paralyze their troops, and now it’s in our faces. That’s just one thread of it, Reed. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Remarkable, remarkable. I know some of your history and you’ve tried some of these things cause you are kind of a beauty queen type. You did the bodybuilding, the whole—I remember seeing pictures, you on the cover of fitness magazines and things like that. You had this amazing look but you knew you really—there’s so many fit looking people that are not healthy. So I’m really so proud of you for dropping—for peeling back the covers or whatever you want to call it and revealing the truth. So speak your truth, tell us about CHI, how that cam about. 

Diane Kazer

Yeah, yeah, sure. CHI is actually—in Chinese medicine, which I take a lot of different disciplines and I’ve added them all together to create the formula and a system that has helped me to help thousands of women all around the world. We have over 95% success rate with helping them get off their medications, freedom from disease and the symptoms that are causing them to suffer and feel sick and stuck in their life spiritually, emotionally, mentally, and physically. So, the reason I put together all like that is that I learned so much from you as an FDN. I mean, that was when my whole career just shifted because I was a financial planner in my twenties. So I love to help people build their wealth, and now I switched over to health ’cause I sold that and got into this. When I started into deepening my health career, because I was a professional soccer player in my early twenties, so I’ve always been an athlete, but it didn’t mean like you said earlier, just because I was a professional athlete did not mean I was healthy on the inside.

I ask the question all the time to myself and say, “I wonder how much better of an athlete I could have been if I knew the things that I learned from you when I was 22.” I played professional soccer in Germany and United States, and it was just a question of if I didn’t have all the urinary tract infections that caused me to feel like I couldn’t run up and down the field and I was bleeding from my parts and I had to go to the urgent care or ER and get antibiotics. The thing that really set me off Reed was when I said, “Okay, there’s gotta be…” Logically speaking, if you really use your intuition and that’s what I like to teach women is use your intuition. Your body is always compassionately, consciously, and clearly speaking to you in the language of symptoms. 

What Western medicine taught us to do is: shut up, stop talking. So it’s like, yeah, dismissal. If you had a five year old child or even a three year old child, and they’re like, “Mommy or daddy I’m hurting.” Would you put a bandaid over their mouth and tell them to shut the hell up? That’s what Western medicine has taught us. So when I went into the doctor over and over and over again with my urinary tract infections, I said, “There’s gotta be a reason why I continually get these. I’ve taken every antibiotic that you told me to.” This is like over a two or three year span Reed. When you take antibiotics, it takes a long time to recover those microbes, if you ever do. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

If you ever do. 

Diane Kazer

Exactly! So they’re like dinosaurs, some of these things, they go extinct and they can’t come back. What is the function we lose? So we never know, but I said, “There’s gotta be a root to this”. They said, “Well, we don’t know, but here’s a solution, take Macrobid, an antibiotic, every day”. And I said, “Every day for how long?” “For the rest of your life”. And I went, “That does not sound right”. I wasn’t even in the health space at that point. So between Accutane in my college years that destroyed my body and that permanently alters your hypothalamic cells in your brain that regulates your whole endocrine system and many things, and birth control and trying multiple different types of birth control, taking Depo-Provera for seven years, not having a period for seven years, all the antibiotics, all the antifungals, all the things that I’ve ever done, breast implants, Botox. 

I have a whole 10 Bs listed out for women who come to the program to understand the 10 Bs are diseasing women’s bodies. It’s Botox. It’s birth control. It’s breast implants. It’s beauty toxic products. It’s behavioral deficiencies that we’re taught as a child. It’s bacterial imbalances in the mouth and the gut and the body and the vagina. There’s so many things that are destroying women’s temples that it’s not about adding more. That’s why we think we need to add another pill or add another exercise program, add another thing. We’re like, “What do I need to do more of? More books, more programs, more summits, more interviews, more practitioners, more, more! Hold on. We’re gonna get dizzy. Then you’re gonna pass out for being dizzy. 

So let’s just cut the information to cut the overwhelm out. Let’s cleanse what you learned and what you thought was right, because of what you’ve been told and programmed. Let’s cleanse your body of toxins. Let’s heal your hormones and your gut, and let’s ignite your life. A big part of that cleansing protocol is also cleansing the stories that cause you to suffer. The story is everything up here is what dictates everything in your physical body. So it’s two things in the formula, toxins and trauma, that cause all these symptoms, suffering and stuckness and sicknesses, so many women experience. It goes in that order and many people think [inaudible] go do some bioidentical hormones. 

And you taught me this Reed, too. You can’t just throw more information. If your liver is super toxic, no amount of bioidentical hormones are gonna really work well because they get converted in the liver and then absorbed into the cell. So if they’re toxic, they can’t even get where you want them to go to be effective. So you have to start with a good clense. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Fantastic. Fantastic. Yeah. I’m just so tickled and again, very, very proud because when I teach you the general principles, and then people get to learn them and go apply them. You’ve found this amazing niche. I mean—and it’s perfect for you, Diane. You seem to have really evolved as a person, as a healer and a business person too. So it’s amazing. Let’s talk about your niche. Who’s this for, basically?  

Diane Kazer

Yeah, yeah. It’s women who—you hear this a lot too Reed, right? It’s women, typically they’re anywhere between 30 and 50, 55, and sometimes older than that. And that’s okay, too. But it’s really women who are up against the wall and they know that they’re destined for better. They are women that will not settle for average. They’re women who know that there’s something deeper within themself that the work they came here to do, they know that they have tried a lot of things, but they have not been heard by the people that they’ve gone out to seek support from, whether that’s a seven minute session with a GP that just says, “Oh, this is just your genetics. Or just take this pill or just cut this organ out.” 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

“You’re getting older.”

Diane Kazer

Yeah. Oh, there’s seven of those. Or, “You’re just getting older” or “It’s just genetics. ” Or “Reduce your stress”. Just reduce stress? Like, where? Our world is like full of it, right? 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Which one? 

Diane Kazer

Yeah, which one of the stressors? Thanks for the help! Or like “workout more” or “eat better”, which [inaudible]. It’s women who are sick of being abused. I don’t just look at abuse as being physically assaulted or sexually raped or whatever, which I deal with a lot of that too in the practice. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

I bet you do. 

Diane Kazer

So it’s a lot of women who know that they deserve better, but they’re finally willing to admit that they do. That they deserve better because if we continually go back and do the same thing over and over again, that’s obviously the definition of insanity thinking it’s going to be different. Maybe this doctor, maybe this doctor, maybe this practitioner and even functional medicine is just upside down too. ‘Cause all that functional medicine does is say—I mean, most right?—is “Let’s take this prescription and replace it with a supplement”. Not all, but the root inside of all of this disease tree—that’s why we call this program the CHI of life, because it’s your tree. It’s CHI, CHI is a life force energy that flows through you in traditional Chinese medicine and if that’s stagnant, you have symptoms. 

When we’re working in the soil of your tree, then we can fix all of the systems, the systems or the branches, and there’s 11 of them. Then from each one of those systems come symptoms and those are the tiny little leaves and the flowers and the fruits. So you can not improve the roots or sweeten the fruits unless you address the roots. And that’s the toxins and trauma. So the women that come to me have tried all of these branch trimmings, right? Or like, taping leaves to the tree because it’s essentially and metaphorically what people have taught them to do. We’re just working up here at surface level, but they’re finally ready to face the root causes that have caused them to suffer. 

A lot of that are questions that I ask them when I first start working with them, like “Maybe do you have a story inside of you that says I’m not smart enough?” Or “I’m afraid to fail.” Or “I’m not good enough.” Or “I don’t deserve it.” Or abandonment. “What if they leave me?” Or “I feel like I’m a fraud.” “Everyone’s out to get me.” Or “I have to do this perfect the first time.” Or “I really should know better how to take care of my body.” Or the worst one is—I hear this all the time, mostly unanimously Reed, is “I’ve tried everything. I don’t believe this will work.” They’ve stopped trusting their body. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. Yeah. Well it’s a damn shame because people come to us and one of the things we ask them to do is, “Hey, you gotta be committed.” If you’re gonna do this thing, healing can take time and we don’t even know what—we have to investigate. We have to figure out what’s wrong. Matter of fact, I wanna ask you about that, your approach. What approach you use and things like that? But, they’re discouraged. They find it really hard to commit because they’ve been burned before, and to get results, you have to be committed. We’ve talked about ways to do that. You can talk about that or just tell us what’s different about your view. ‘Cause I know it’s very holistic and where other approaches didn’t work, it can work. How do you handle that? 

Diane Kazer

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, first things first is the gift that I love that I’ve been given by God and two parents that raised me ferociously. I was raised by parents who taught me to be committed above all things and to be courageous and to be conscious and to be caring and to be comprehensive. These are all Cs in my program actually. Every module has a C. I talk about that and we actually walk through the chakras. If you have no idea what that means, I am also a yoga practitioner. I’ve been practicing yoga for 20 years. I’ve traveled over 25 countries and I’ve done yoga with a lot of other different gurus in India. I don’t say that to impress you, but I say that to impress upon you how much work that I’ve done to create the system that I have that is very comprehensive and is very holistic. 70% of detox happens through our breath and our exhalation. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Amazing. 

Diane Kazer

Yet now a lot of us are told to cover our mouths. So it’s essentially like— 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah, breath it back in. 

Diane Kazer

Yeah! It’s like pooping and putting it right back in your body. That sounds very, very disgusting, but it’s actually what’s happening. Only like 6% of our toxic waste leaves though the bowels, but that’s a lot, 70% for exhalation! That’s why it’s important to understand how to detox by utilizing something that’s free. And that’s your breath. I mean, the yogis have been talking about this for thousands of years is knowing how to breathe is actually how you can take back control of your body and get into parasympathetic dominant, which is the rest and digest and the breed and feed and the repair. This is where I see so many people going out and doing all these supplements and they come to me—thousand dollar a month supplement protocols they’ve been prescribed by the best of the best in the world, functional medicine doctors, and no knock to them, that’s what they know.

But the reason that we’re different is because we actually teach them how to get into parasympathetic without—I’m not even kidding you—20, 30, $40,000 treatment protocols that a lot of these clients before they get to me have spent on—sure, hyperbarics is great, but you’re gonna spend $3,000 on a good few months to do that. Then you’re gonna have these brain treatments and brain scans, which are awesome, but when you’re doing it without the lifestyle modifications in between those treatments, it’s gonna be a expensive journey. So I like to bring my financial planner hat into all of this and say, “Look, you spent 10, 15, 20, 100 thousand, 1 million dollars the last year on your health pursuits. How much better have you gotten? Let’s get totally real. 

We gotta get real here or else you’re never going to heal.” “Well, I’ve got maybe 5% better.” “Okay. Well how much would you have expected that you would have gotten better in that same year timeframe?” “Well, I thought I was going to be completely remissed.” “Okay. Well you have an expectation. You have a reality. Something’s got to shift, what are we not doing? Let’s get into the lifestyle modifications. Let’s deep…” Every day I teach people lifestyle behavior, I have an acronym for this Reed. It’s called HIT. You want to hit a home run. It’s not just about habituation, which is lifestyle modifications daily, but it’s about intention behind what you’re doing. Then you have transformation, because if you’re doing all of these amazing things without the intention of getting better, which are these stories we tell ourselves in our mind, healing begins up here with the stories you tell yourself. 90% of them are self sabotaging and limiting beliefs. I get it, rightfully so you guys, when you’re out there and you’re like. “This person’s gonna help me. This person’s gonna heal me.” 

That is the number one biggest lie that you’re gonna tell yourself for the rest of your life and the biggest truth which you can tell yourself is “I will heal me, I will heal me.” So we walk through the Chakras, we walked through different systems in the body that regulate different parts of the body, open the heart, open the mind, open your intuition, clear out your pineal gland. Stop using fluoride. Stop using aluminum-based things. Get yourself as far away from possible from wifi frequencies, radioactive frequencies. There’s so many things that our body needs to heal. We’re just asking you to get out of the way. We do functional medicine, lab testing, the things that you taught me Reed, how to find out what things pathogens are in the gut, but not just get rid of them, not go on a bug killing spree, understand why they’re there, because if you’re going on a bug killing spree, it’s no different doing it holistically with oregano oil than you would just get in antibiotics. 

But why are those bugs there? Oregano oil can do also more damage, or just going on a candida cleanse or just going on a parasite protocol. They’re there for a reason so you’ve gotta address the terrain and then the brain, those are the two things that feed each other. It’s just this whole system. It sounds overwhelming, but I like to put it into little bite sizes to teach people to be their own best healer. Then I work with a lot of practitioners, autoimmune disease, MS. We have a really cool story I’ll share some time in this webinar today, too, in this interview. I work with women who are very advanced cases. They’ve tried everything and I go, “That’s not intimidating to me, but you’re missing the lifestyle modification. You got all this other advanced stuff up here, but let’s just focus on the basics. Let’s get back to the basics”. Which is, I think, the blessing of where we’re at in 2020 and what this is bringing us back to is the basics and back to our soil and our roots. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. I think you’re right. I love that you’re using acronyms. It makes them easy to remember— 

Diane Kazer

You and I both! 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

We’re laughing ’cause I’m the acronym man. It’s so I can remember it when I’m going through it! 

Diane Kazer

Yes! 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. I have to have a way of explaining things to people— 

Diane Kazer

Right? Me too. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

They’re great little tools that we use. So, obviously you have this really broad, holistic approach, which I think is what’s missing from it’s definitely missing from modern medicine. Doctors have to refer you to a specialist, even in functional medicine you have people saying, “Well, I’m a gut person” or “I’m a microbiome…” Whatever it might be. The hormone people and things like HRT and what have you. I’m a CBO person and all this sort of stuff. I think the broader view is what’s best for health coaches and part of this entire event, as you know Diane, is to provide some leadership and guidance for people that want to become health coaches. You don’t have to know everything. You don’t have to—you’re gonna have clients that get great results when you use that broadest approach. Plus, that’s what’s legal and proper for our—that’s our wheelhouse, that’s our backyard, that’s our sandbox as I like to say. We have to know where our backyard begins and ends. ‘Cause we’re not— 

Diane Kazer

And how to build our own castle! [Laughing]. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Amen sister. Yeah, right on. [Laughing] Now, you have this wonderful approach and you obviously have a tremendous amount of experience. You helped a lot of people because you’ve been doing this—what kind of results are you seeing? Who are you helping the most? Give us some great stories. 

Diane Kazer

Yeah. So, I say I’m the toxic beauty whistleblower, but not everybody really understands what that means. They don’t understand, like I said earlier, that breast implants have an incidence of up to 800% increased risk of getting autoimmune disease. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

That’s amazing. 

Diane Kazer

It’s disgusting. It’s amazing that we’re finding these things now that we’re coming together. Thanks to technology. That’s the light side of technology, the shadow side of it is that we’re on it and looking at it all day and disrupting our circadian rhythms. We can’t sleep well because we’re looking at artificial light. So there’s light side and shadow side to everything, right? So thanks to the internet and coming together and in a longterm research study they found, they followed a hundred thousand women over several years—and this is all in my book, Killer Breasts —it’s a long book. I didn’t intend for it to be this long Reed. It’s like 300 pages long, but there was a lot to cover in here. I still left out a lot for the next book, of course. But inside of this book and inside of all of the protocols that I work with my clients on it’s that what are the root causes? Toxins are such a big one today. 

And trauma, right? So the types of women that I’m helping is—first let’s understand how you’re adding toxins to your body. What’s in, on, and around? I look at that, in, on, and around your body. You’ve got toxins that are already inside of your body, where are they? Like I learned from you Reed, you can test these things all day long. You can do a heritage analysis. You can do a urinary challenge test to see what kind of metals you have in your body. You can do blood tests. There’s so different ways to test for stuff. You can test yourself until your hair falls out or your face turns blue, but what I like to do is just get general assessments first. So I actually developed this book. This is not a book yet. It’s just a piece of paper, or it’s just 40 pages of a book that I wrote. It’s a free ebook on my website. Are toxins the root of your symptoms? So I actually developed a little approach where you can score yourself low, medium, or high. This is some of the work that I learned from Dr. Pampa who’s a mentor of mine. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Oh yeah. Great. 

Diane Kazer

Yeah. Amazing. What’s your neurotoxic score? Then it’s not just, “Okay, you’re low, medium, or high.” How do you get the toxins out? Because it’s also very difficult. You can’t just chlorella this stuff away. You can’t just cilantro this stuff away. These are manmade neurotoxins that have been artificially created. When you have leaky gut, which we pretty much all do at this point, leaky brain, these things get into your brain. It’s the number one cause for things like Alzheimer’s or dementia, or the woman who have brain fog or confusion and can’t think straight. ADHD. ADD. It’s the biggest root cause for so many diseases today. So understanding where these toxins are coming from, where they live in your body is really important. Let’s get the toxins out that are in your body. 

Let’s consider where they’re coming from, from the outside that you’re slathering on or injecting into, or that live right over your heart chakra that prevent you from connecting and getting oxytocin from hugging people. I can’t even tell you Reed, my hugs these days—remember when I hugged you? Was it Maui? Or was it—oh, no, it was when you were in Arizona—which is where I live now—and I hugged you. I was like, “Reed I can hug you now with my heart!” Instead of these big cantaloupe things that are DD 500 CC, 1.2 pound each over my heart chakra that are causing me shoulder pain and weight gain and energy drain and broken brain. I’m like, “Get these suckers out”. It’s what lives inside of you that’s constantly destroying you and depleting you and diseasing you and deathing you, literally. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

They’re not even you. They’re not you.They’re a different, weird thing. Yeah. I get you. I feel you. 

Diane Kazer

The root cause of autoimmune disease. Literally what you just said, they’re not you. So your body is self attacking them and it’s trying to protect you. Your body doesn’t hate you. It loves you. It’s trying to take care of you. So it’s time that we shift that perspective of “My hormones hate me. I feel like crap when I 

have my period.” No! They actually love you. That is God’s way of communicating to you. I developed that system to help people understand where their toxins might live in their body and then around your body too, the toxins that live in your home. The air in our home is 10 to 100 times more toxic than is outside. Now we’re being told to stay home and, well, you’re breathing in a lot of really stale air and toxins and mold. There’s so many different things that we look at in the approach of where do these things live and how can we get them out of the body? The approach is looking into many different things like gut healing, hormone balancing, detoxification protocols, and strategies that are unique to each person. Trauma resolve and emotional freedom is the biggest one too, because there’s one case that I just worked with Reed and I’m actually interviewing her for my podcast this Friday. 

She sent me a note and it was this massive celebration. A lot of women come to me and have either diagnosed or undiagnosed autoimmune diseases. And she said, since being diagnosed with MS in December of 2013, she had been working on ways to improve her health, which is a lot of things, reading, attending summits, trying various programs. And every time she saw some success in her symptoms, but she knew there was a lot more room for improvement. So she felt like with the way she was dieting and exercising, she should be so much more energetic and she shouldn’t be so tired and she should be able to lose weight. There’s all these shoulds, right? There’s the expectations. I should be able to do this. I should have been able to—and then there’s disappointment, shame when we can’t. We think there’s something wrong with us, but really it’s the approach. We’re not getting deep enough. 

So she tried a lot of different MS types of diets and protocols, and she was able to get the weight off, but it wasn’t realistic enough for her. She wasn’t able to keep the weight down. But then once we started working with her, we found that she had a lot of past trauma. She had been sexually assaulted in her younger years, and she started shrinking and she tried to become invisible to not be noticed or seen. So maybe there was a purpose to gaining the weight. Maybe there was a purpose to her MS. She swallowed her shame. She swallowed her anger. She swallowed her resentment. She wasn’t able to use her voice to protect herself then, so then she developed autoimmune conditions. 

After working with us for three months, she said that she had been in a wheelchair for the last eight years, seven years. She had extreme dizziness, vertigo. She said about 25% of her life she was using the wheelchair. Since she started working with us about two weeks after that, she had not used her wheelchair since. She’s out of her wheelchair. She went from feeling half of herself to 75% of optimal. So these are all possible things. We get people off medications like benzodiazepines—one woman almost died last year—she was using Botox, also using a date rape drug to fall asleep at night, prescribed by your doctor. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Good grief. 

Diane Kazer

She had breast implants and lots of beauty toxic products. Then she breastfed and her baby was not able to keep food down. We did some [inaudible] on him, found he was super inflamed. So we cleared up both of them and she was literally emaciated. It’s a case study I did on my website. You guys can watch and see her before and after pictures. She gained 30 much needed pounds within a few months and got her life back, and so did her son. So these are not just things that we women are suffering from. This is the next generation we’re talking about. And then our significant other, we put this toxic stuff in our body, then we kiss our significant other. We’re giving them the pathogens, too. So this is actually selfish to think about it not taking care of yourself, it’s effecting every person in your life, especially your family and your loved ones. Because you’re setting an example. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah, for sure. Everything we do to improve ourselves should help our families. Even if you don’t have grandkids, you might have them one day. You’re talking about a generational approach to health and wellbeing. You’re seeing some great results, that’s good, Diane. I would expect no less from you ’cause I know how sincere you are. Plus your parents will—[Laughing]—you’ve always got your parents sort of sitting there that you want to make proud. 

Diane Kazer

Right. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

My father has been dead 10 years. I still try to make my dad proud. 

Diane Kazer

Yeah. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Maybe I need to let that go. Now, let’s talk a little bit more about your training like the CHI graduates, ’cause you obviously are having success. How do you—what is it you hand over? How has this training helping CHI graduates go deeper with their clients? 

Diane Kazer

Yeah. I have had—most of the women who come to me are women who are either practitioners themselves in some way, women who have done FDN and who want to also do the trauma resolve aspect and the toxic beauty aspect of working with someone who has been through what they’ve been through. Actually I have something to talk about my book. You talked about it earlier Reed, is that I would like to encourage you guys who are considering becoming health coaches, or maybe who are and want to go deeper. There’s three things, an acronym for E, that I want you to remember. Another acronym, it’s three E’s and I’ll get into the answer, which is part of this thread. You don’t just have to have education to be able to support people. There’s a lot of very smart doctors that have worked with the clients I’ve worked with that have not been able to help them move the needle whatsoever. 

Again, nothing against those doctors. I don’t believe that they have ill intentions, but they may not have had the experience of walking through the toxicity that has caused your body to literally explode from the inside out. It may not have had that experience and the majority of doctors are men. We need a lot more of a feminine aspect too, so we actually need people who’ve been through the trenches. That’s the experience piece. That’s also the empathy, which is the third E piece. It’s “Hey, I’ve been where you have been”. That’s what makes a really good coach is someone who has been—walked through the shadow of death, faced it, faced their literal darkness. That’s what happened with me. 

I was in my sauna and I grabbed my breasts and I was like, “I feel lumps everywhere”. And I thought, “Am I really dying to be beautiful?” Was it really that important? Am I dying? Did I kill myself with these breast implants? Are these cancerous? There’s lumps everywhere. I’m in pain, I’m inflamed. Now I’m alone, and what I heard Reed from a lot of people who were like, “Oh, well, you brought that on yourself. You got breast implants. What were you thinking?” And I’m like, “If I would have told you I had breast cancer, would you have said that? ” 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah, probably not. 

Diane Kazer

No. So facing that level of criticism from the world and still standing in the face of that heat of the dragon and saying, “I don’t really care what you say, but I care about the people who are suffering and I’m still gonna continue to stand for those people”. That’s what we need in our industry. People who are fearless leaders who are gonna stand in the heat of all of this shame that is being projected out. “Oh, you’re not a doctor.” Or, “You’re not a—” I’ve heard that, too. I’m like, you know what, I’m glad that I’m not. Really glad that I’m not. I have doctors coming to me, Reed. Many doctors who’ve come to me. In fact, there’s another case study of a doctor who came to me, Dr. Patricia—also on my podcast—she came to me and she was going through a breakup and she was dealing with so much shame, stories. 

What we all do is we’re still trying to prove and defend. Like a part of you is trying to prove to your dad that maybe you’re good enough. Or, “Dad, please be proud of me.” For me, I still have the “Mom, is this good enough now? Or is this good enough now?” And that’s okay. I’ve mended this with my mom. It was just a story. It wasn’t truth that she wasn’t proud of me, but I had a story that she wasn’t proud of me unless I X, Y, Z. But now I’m on a totally different path. She can’t understand completely what I do, but it’s helped the family. My dad says that there’s only one reason he’s still alive and it’s because I helped him with his diet. When he had his gallbladder removed and I helped him with all that inflammation. 

I have tons—mostly I have nurses, doctors, health coach, professional athletes, current athletes, fitness competitors—who’ve come to me. They’re like, “I want to learn this formula that you have. I want to teach my patients, my clients this.” I’ve helped transform many doctors, their doctors offices, their patient results and the protocols and the approaches that they have with their patients, realizing that if you don’t address the number one, most common ignored, but under utilized and under leveraged secret weapon, and that is the power of your mind. If you don’t use that, all of these protocols are great, but they’re not going to be as lasting and sustainable. Those are the kinds of women who come to me and ask for the support to go deeper with their practice and their patients. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah, it’s remarkable. So, you mentioned that before and I wanted to talk about two more things before we go, Diane. One is the actual structure of your course. People go through it and they get these tools, this power, like you say. Then the other thing that I want to talk about is back to the intuitive part, the CHI, that intuition. Tell us about your course first. What do people go through when they take that? This is your chance to tell us like it is. 

Diane Kazer

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love telling it like it is. So, I have an eight week course and the modules are eight weeks, but the whole time that you spend with us is three months. The first module is, sure, I want to dig into your medical history. I want to know what you’ve tried, what you’ve taken, what you’re on, what your expectations are of being here. I also wanna know because it’s really important people come into something and they have these expectations. A lot of that comes from the stem of the perfectionism parasite. They think they need to get it all right. They think they need to leave completely transformed or that they need to know it all. So that’s the management of mindset. 

It’s like, really, truly, what do you want? What do you expect from me? Right? I help them understand. I’m not their guru, I’m the coach that’s gonna help them coach themselves. I’m gonna help them be their own guru. That’s huge. Huge! As a practitioner, if that’s what you become, that is the single greatest, important thing that you are going to need to utilize, to keep you away from attaching to your patients or your students or whatever you call it, their results. If you attach yourself to the results, as the measure of you being a “good or bad practitioner”, you’re going to find shame all day long. But if you can find that you can teach them that the power was within them, then you will never fail a day in your life as a practitioner because you’re giving them the tools. You’re not giving them the fish. You’re giving them the tools. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Right. 

Diane Kazer

I start there by saying, “You have the power, you are the healer. And let’s start first by understanding what is in the way of healing you.” So we go—module one is all about, let’s look at all that. Let’s look at your belief system. Let’s look at your childhood. Let’s look at some of the stories that you’ve framed and oftentimes Reed they’re way back here. These stories are way back here. They don’t even know that these beliefs are contaminating their results. So once they can get that for themselves, they can then teach that to others because then they have these massive ahas. “Oh my God. I had no idea that I was carrying around these beliefs. No wonder why I couldn’t heal.” So module one is all about that and also understanding this inner child dialogue and conflict that it’s okay to have needs. It’s okay to be needy. All of it’s okay. We want to first cleanse the shame, first put it in a Petri dish and go, what is this? This is shame. 

This is shame about who you think you are, based on the stories of who you think you need to be based on your childhood, based on your parents, who you thought your parents wanted you to be, who society needs you to be. Talk about the 10 prison bars. I have systems for all this stuff to help. That’s why everything I do is about FLY. First love yourself. I want them to fly away from what’s imprisoning them to their symptoms and their suffering. That’s what module one is loaded. It’s looking at all those things and helping to build new belief systems and the most important question of all. What’s this all for? What is all this for? Why do you want to get better? Why do you want to help other patients and clients get better? Why is this so important to you? If you do not understand your why you will never fly.

Not for a long period of time anyway. So that’s module one. Then we move into module two and we understand the roots. That’s your root chakra. That is how you perceive that you fit into your family of origin. If you’re still replicating—let’s say you were the black sheep of the family, or you’re someone that was constantly beaten, or you had to step up to become the parent because your parent wanted to go drink or whatever, you had to set up to be a parent at a young age. And you’re still parenting everybody else except for yourself. So I teach you how to be your own self parent, to talk to yourself in a way that’s very compassionate instead of critical. That really helps to lighten the load. So we can pull out shame from your roots. Then you can start to grow the fruits and you could feed yourself with those fruits. So that’s module two and then module three, we’re moving into the hormone system. We’re moving into that chakra which is where we create from. So many women are afraid to create because they think you need to be like everybody else, like robotic and they don’t know how to create. I didn’t create anything. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. 

Diane Kazer

Like you said, the sandbox, create your castle, right? They’re afraid to because they’re afraid to fail at it. So I have to work with that fear of failure through that chakra, but we’re also helping them with the hormones to balance their hormones with supplements and all the other things and eating healthy and correctly for their system and seed cycling, and so many other things. Then we move into the gut. That’s the seed of your power. That’s your solar plexus. That’s what it’s called. The chakra system is your solar plexus. That’s where you—that’s your solar panels. You create your own power. I teach you how to self create your own power and get your power back, getting you centered in your core. That’s where everything stems from. Then we move—and we work on gut healing protocols too, we’re doing a couple of different functional medicine labs, looking at different infection, inflammation, immune system, dysfunction, all of that. 

Then we move into the heart and I find that here, Reed, that module we have a lot of women stopping there because they have heart walls because they’re afraid to trust others. But really it’s not a fear of trusting others and getting hurt, or burned, it’s fear of trusting themself to make the right choices because they’ve repeated something on repeat over and over. Then we start to move up into our intuition. We start to realize that we’re making decisions. We’re speaking—throat chakra—we’re not speaking our voice. We’re not speaking our truth. We’re afraid of abandonment. We’re afraid that we’re never gonna get it right. So we just cut it off and then we have thyroid disease and stagnant thoughts that stay right here. We also have parasites that affect that. We also have heavy metals that affect that. Mineral deficiencies that affect that, structural deficiencies, genetics. We have all of these things that are affecting the thyroid, but when we finally get to the root of this toxins and trauma, most of it is trauma. 

The women start speaking their voice and feeling strong again. Then they can start activating their intuition. Their intuition is what helps to turn on their power to listen to their body and know what to do to self heal. When they have that, they have everything. They have full power for the rest of their life. Game over. They do not need anybody else. They like to leverage other people to help go deeper. Where are my blind spots? But when you get your intuition, game over. You’re no longer controlled by other people. You have your power back. You’re standing up. You’re unf*ckable. No one can f*ck with you anymore because you know how to build healthy boundaries. You don’t give yourself away anymore. You don’t give your energy away and have adrenal fatigue. You’re no longer letting people suck your energy. You’re no longer the parasite. There’s a lot of people that are parasites, they parasite your energy. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 

Diane Kazer

I find that their come up in stool tests when they’re allowing people to suck their energy. And that’s it. We walked through every single one of those modules, physically, emotionally, mentally, chemically, spiritually. We looked through all of those different areas. What I found that’s the magic Reed, is when we have those two things together, when we have the toxins and the trauma, and we fix it all at once, that’s when a woman blossoms. That’s when her tree is strong and firm, and she has her roots in the soil. There’s nothing that can knock her over anymore. Not even the big, bad wolf. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

I’m so glad that you ended with the intuition part ’cause it’s probably the hardest part for people to get. Just if they really feel it, they should go for it. It doesn’t mean you won’t make mistakes sometimes, but— 

Diane Kazer

Oh you will, many.

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah, but if you don’t go out there and be creative and try things, you won’t get anywhere with the same old. Like you said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over. Right? Well, let’s finish up with one last thing. I want to talk to you a little bit, just a slight shift of gears, ’cause we’re talking to health coaches and potential health coaches, Diane, we’ll finish with what you think separates the professional health coach from kind of the hobbyist. God bless the hobbyist, ’cause they’re out there and they’re learning and they’re working on themselves and their families and things. But others of us, we’re doing this as a profession and it is a profession. It’s something you can do very well for yourself if you can get into your own power, as you suggest and things like that. Get the right training as we’ve talked about quite a bit with you and so many other guests. What else separates the professional from the—I don’t want to say amateur—I’m just saying hobbyist? Someone who’s not quite there to charge what they’re worth for it. 

Diane Kazer

Yeah. Yeah. Well the professional, this is what they live, breathe, eat, and this is pumping through their blood. I spend more hours a day—this is what I’m so passionate about. It’s being on top of the research, but looking at all sides of things and being pragmatic and not attaching to one side and feeling like you know it all and you’re done. I think ego is the biggest thing that can take you away from being the best in your profession is to think, you know at all. It’s being a constant student realizing that we’re always doing our best and you’re never going to get this perfect, like you said. I think it’s important, even as practitioners, as professionals, to be able to say, “Oh, you know what? Okay, that didn’t work. Let’s try something else.” It’s not attaching yourself to thinking that you need to be the end all, be all for people. But knowing that there’s so many different solutions that are out there and also realizing that there’s science and there’s spirituality. That’s where I say that my approach is where science meets spirituality. 

If you think that as a profession that you’re just this physical body you’re done. Your clients are never gonna get better. They’re not, because we are electric beams. So it’s adding that emotional and mental and spiritual component to this to understand what makes them tick and what’s important to them and meeting them where they’re at. If you go in as a professional, as “I can fix this person, I’ve got a big ego. I’m gonna be the person that’s better than all the other people that have worked with them in the past.” Where did you get that level of righteousness? If you can help empower them with your wisdom and also, get away from this model that creates codependence, where the patient needs to keep coming back and keep coming back and coming back. That is not empowering. That’s disempowering. It may sound like a great business profit model, but it’s not going to get you a lot of testimonials. There are probably some people that want to be codependent. They’re never going to want to do the things in between. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Right. 

Diane Kazer

So you pick your side and it’s important to you as a professional. I wish I would’ve learned this a long, long time ago. So here’s the pearls that can help you guys save some time, money and energy doing what I didn’t do is first of all, FDN is bad-ass. I mean, that gave me my roots. If I can be competent to say this, then the next level is to do something like my course, where you’re then learning and understanding how to use your intuition and listen to the voices inside to help heal those emotional aspects and those mental aspects. You absolutely have to have that in every treatment protocol, if you really want to go from where you are now to flying. Truly. So that cuts a lot of time out. Go ahead, Reed. 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Well, let’s see. This will be the last thing Diane. Let’s say, we’ve gotten to that point, but they still don’t know how to charge for their services. That this is a business, and things like that. So, you’ve obviously gotten over that hump. So tell us, how does that work for you? Or what was your best advice to the next person? 

Diane Kazer

Yes. Okay. So first thing I was doing, I was trading my dollars for my time only. I mean, obviously I’m more—I’ve done this for a lot longer now. But when I shifted my model from just one on one, and I had five or six clients a day on a waiting list, I was making good money, but I was exhausted. What I did is I shifted my model, and this is a part of what I teach in the program, too. If clients come to me, they want to learn how to create business out of it, too. And to not crash their adrenals and thyroid, because you can only heal so much of that on your own is what I did is I leveraged it and I created a group learn program. So when you come in—when I added the tribe element Reed, I had group calls where all of the ladies in the program were there together, they all get to see each other’s breakthroughs and they all get to learn from each other’s questions. When your—it enables you to be the observer, instead of the participant, and when you’re the observer, and you can see yourself in other people, that’s when the breakthroughs happen. 

That’s when the subconscious programming shifts and you can change your mind literally to change your results. I have once a week, tribe calls, they’re two hours long where I’m leading it. I also have two other coaches. We have a functional medicine doctor that does the labs. Sometimes I’m doing the labs. Sometimes he’s doing the labs. I also have a mental, emotional, spiritual coach, and she’s a medical intuitive. She does the mindset calls, so she’s doing those calls with them. She’s regular routine with them. That frees up my time as the person who’s creating the course material that can do the interviews like this, that can help to write the new ebook or write my book. Do the things that I love to do! So I found out, here’s the things I’d like to farm out so everybody stays in their lane. 

Then here’s the things that I want to do myself, because I love what I do. I love these things, so I didn’t burn out. Then now, I charge each person based on that three months with us, they get the materials. You guys can do the same thing. When you repeat yourself over and over, then that’s a module I can create that everybody gets to learn every time. That’s not gonna be different for each person. That way, the time that you have one on one with them, you can spend customizing things to them. When they do the program with us, they have five calls total one-on-one, and then they have access to me, text, inbox or an email throughout the week. But I no longer do just one-on-one calls because that burned me out. This way they have the modules, access material, they have a one-on-one calls, strategic calls. They have any way to access any of us if they need to. Then they have the tribe calls, all of that group learning has amplified the results that I get my practice like tenfold, because people get to see that they are not alone. 

Women need to see— especially women—I am not alone in my suffering. There are other women that are—and they need to see women courageously stepping up that they’re too afraid to. So they’re like, “Oh, well, she stepped up. So I’m going to step up.” So elevates the willingness to be seen, and to finally just go, “You know what, dragon? I’m going to face you. And I’m going to finally conquer this.” And they have more commitment that way, they have more social aspect. We’re stuck at home now, we can’t even leave our house. We need tribe more than ever. That is a primal fact, we need tribe. Without tribe, we’re dead. We’re literally—oxytocin, regulates all of our hormones, all of our hormones, oxytocin is the connection tribal hormone, when that’s missing everything falls apart, no matter what adrenal supplement you take. So does that help, Reed? 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. It helps a lot. Yeah. That’s great words of wisdom to the people listening. I want to thank you so much for being here, Diane. I just can’t tell you how much I am proud of you and what you’re doing. And what you’re setting an example for is that people can be themselves, be in their own power. You’re somebody who just—you do it Diane’s way and that’s a beautiful way. You find people resonate with you. So no matter who you are listening, no matter what you think that you’re not that person. You’re not me, and you’re not Diane, you’re you, and you can get the training. You can get the mindset and you can get in your power and you can help other people ’cause that’s probably the number one prerequisite for even being in this event. You want to help others. You want to walk the talk and do the hard work. 

So I just want to thank you so much. Remember, Diane’s mission is discover the self-love key to unlock your body’s innate intelligence, self heal your symptoms and transform your life from the inside out. She’s all about courage and cleansing to reclaim your power. And Diane, thanks so much for being here. I’m just gonna tell everybody listening to go out and get your VIP pass in this event, and we’ll be in good shape. So thanks again, Diane. Can’t wait to see you. 

Diane Kazer

You too.