Jonathan Otto
Nathan, it’s such a pleasure. Thank you for having me.
Nathan Crane
Absolutely. So you know, let’s dive right in. You’ve obviously done a ton of work in research around autoimmunity, parasites, heavy metals, inflammation, even cancer specifically. Which are all, aside from cancer, autoimmunity, parasites, heavy metals, inflammation. They’re all key components that not only can lead to cancer. But contribute to an ongoing experience of pain. As well as a proliferation of additional chronic diseases that so many people face today, including cancer. So, maybe we can start there. Maybe start by talking about how these diseases, infections and toxicity are actually all related. Even though to a lot of people they might seem totally different or not connected.
Jonathan Otto
Absolutely Nathan. I think it’s a really good point that you’re making and that is very valuable for people. Because this whole thing of we don’t know why this person has cancer, it’s unexplained. And this is one of the most obvious signs that we are ignoring all the warning lights. And so, what are those warning lights? How do we know what are the things that do create toxicity in our body that then results in these life threatening diseases, including cancer? And what I’ll share with you is very relevant because the proof for what I’m sharing is based on the science, the studies. The actual documentation that we have to verify that these things are not just a theory but they are fact. But most importantly that when you use these tools.
Like for example, once you can work out what the cause is, the root cause. Then you can go into root cause solutions. And those solutions are the ones that I’ve seen change people’s lives in the most profound ways. And they’re very practical and they’re things that people can do from home. They’re cheap, they’re cost effective. Most of them are even free essentially. And so, what that means is that it’s a exciting and fun thing that we can all do. Whether we’re at the peak of wellness right now or we feel like we are. Or we’d like to get to a high level or if we’re fighting a life threatening illness.
So, let’s have a look at a few of those things. You mentioned parasitic infection and toxicity. And heavy metal toxicity would be one of the most challenging toxic threats. Because our bodies don’t naturally get rid of these heavy metals as well as they could. And the accumulation of multiple factors. Like for example, gene mutations that are very common. Or just simply the fact of the amount of exposure and the fact that it’s over such a long period of time. This buildup of heavy metals in the body can be one of the most challenging experiences in most unexplained symptomatology that ranges from mental issues and general issues. Anything from the spectrum of the array of mental illness to infertility issues to cancer. And you can have a look. All the studies that are out with heavy metal toxicity and the autoimmune diseases that are common. It ranges all the way from you have a look at things like mercury toxicity. Have a look at Dr. Patrick Kingsley out of the UK. And he’s known to be the most sought after MS doctor in the UK for multiple sclerosis. And of the 4,000 patients that he’s seen in his whole career with MS. Guess how many of those patients didn’t have mercury toxicity?
Nathan Crane
I’d guess probably 10, 20.
Jonathan Otto
Yeah, there you go. Exactly, it was five.
Nathan Crane
Wow.
Jonathan Otto
And so, the numbers are so astonishingly low. Meaning that of the multiple sclerosis patients 99.9% of them had mercury toxicity or thereabouts. I mean I’m giving you a rough number. But only five out of the 4,000 didn’t have mercury toxicity. So, it shows that these are things that actually should be assumed rather than assumed not to have. So, when I say assumed. So, who should assume that they would have that? Well, people that have those types of symptoms. So, look at the symptoms of MS or other issues related to muscles, bones, neurological health. And these are the things that start to give us warning signs. Especially when we’ve tried multiple things and nothing is working.
So, it gives us a really, really great insight into, wow. There must be something else and that’s a good thing. And what if we’ve never used anything that has the power to actually remove these toxins out of our body? ‘Cause I’m not going to just share with you doom and gloom because most of us can’t turn back. Well, none of us can turn back the clock and change our choices and behaviors and the things that we’ve put into our body. But what can we do now? That’s the hopeful part. And that’s what I’m going to be focusing on. And the same goes with parasites. I’m gonna chat more about that as well. But the toxic exposures that we’re getting through parasitic infection is so high that you would think that this was just for people that had traveled. But just to give you a note on traveling. Traveling can mean out of state because you’re in another environment. So, you can be in a different state and that classes as traveling. And you can look at cities or states where basically the entire state or half the state, like New York for example. The water was infected with a parasite. And then it was this huge outbreak. And so, all the faucets were shut down.
But even after all the treatments in the water that even in these areas. They were still showing that in every gallon you’d have roughly one parasite per gallon. So, it’s so surreal to think about how much exposures are there. We know that in America 60 million Americans have the Toxoplasma gondii parasite. And this is known as the cat poop parasite, cat poop because cats carry this parasite. And it causes such an issue that we know that people that have the T gondii parasite is seven times more likely to attempt suicide versus someone that doesn’t have it. So that’s 60 million Americans, that’s just one parasite. And you have to look at giant roundworm estimated to have infected a billion people across the world, the globe. This is something that we all need to consider. That’s just, again, one parasite. There’s around 300 parasites that are common to inhabit humans and a hundred that are very common.
So, that just gives you a bit of an understanding. This is rampant. And the reason why it’s so common in the US is because we know that we’ve had issues with genetically modified foods and antibiotics and other drugs that are killing gut flora. And what that means is gut flora is our biggest defense against parasitic infection. And so, once we lose these organisms that fight for us. Then we are creating an environment where these parasites can live and they create their environments. And then they affect our cravings and they will crave for things. And we will think that they’re our cravings. They’ll crave for excessive amounts of meat as an example. Where you just, you know. You try to, let’s just say someone’s tried to be a vegetarian but they just obsess over it. And you can look at even a small parasites like the ants that get infected with a liver fluke and they literally change their course. They find themselves hanging out of flowers trying to feed themselves to cows and sheep to get into the liver. It’s the parasite that’s taken control of the ants. National Geographic and other shows have shown that the parasites can take over the mind of small organisms. I’m not suggesting that you can blame all your problems in life on parasites. I’m not suggesting that you’re possessed with a parasite. I am suggesting that your cravings are influenced by parasitic infection. And that can make a huge difference.
Nathan Crane
You know, that’s a good point. I mean especially, you know. I grew up in Montana. Meat and potatoes, you know. Hunting our own animals. Like eating lots of steak and all of that. Since I was about 18, 19 years old. And as I started researching health and started doing cleanses and started detoxing and started that whole path about 18 years old. One of the things that I learned really early on. And I’m actually grateful I came across this research and this understanding over 15 years ago now. Was exactly what you just said.
Is that some of the most common parasitic infections we face as human beings today is from meat sources, from animal sources, right. And it’s not only, you know.
Most of the time people think, oh. It’s just under cooked pork or something like that. But parasites are pretty resilient, you know. And they can be in just about any meat source, different types of parasites. And when they’re inside your intestines and if they are continuously fed. What they’re looking for, right. More meat, more toxicity basically. They’re gonna proliferate. And as you said, it’s been proven that parasites can actually take over the minds and actions of small organisms. You know, there is something to be said that parasites. If your body is totally infested with parasites and I would venture to bet majority of people in the world have parasites and don’t even know it. And not only are directly impacting the cravings as you’re saying, right.
But influencing the brain as well. And there are some studies that are starting to suggest this. There’s more information starting to show up. But as you said, you know. These things, if you have any chronic disease pretty much whatsoever, including cancer. I think you should definitely be looking at parasites, as well as you said heavy metal toxicity. Because even if you don’t have a chronic disease. Nowadays you can just about bet majority of people do have some parasite. And so, here’s the question though. Here’s I think the big question that a lot of people don’t know. How does something like a parasitic infection actually lead to a chronic disease like cancer or autoimmunity for that matter?
Jonathan Otto
That’s a good point. And I appreciate your knowledge and research in this subject. And ways that we can simply prevent and get around this issue by by looking at more healthy food sources. And strengthening the good gut flora so that we have a strong defense against these parasites. So, what is it that makes the parasites and heavy metal toxicity and this collection of infections get to a point where now it’s the straw that broke the camel’s back? And that’s such a good illustration because it’s about the layers. And the huge problem that a lot of people have is that they don’t understand this. And because of that they’re looking at certain events that they think, well. It must’ve been because of this one thing. Because they’re not used to tracing all of these infections and the symphony of problem that they create together. And so, it is the continual exposure. It is the time.
So over time decades go by and a problem will worsen or get better. And that is because of the fact that parasites will breed in the body. Because of the fact that we’re adding more and more exposures. A lot of us aren’t changing our behaviors and our appetite or the things that we crave. And then we’re feeding, feeding. And it’s this condemning cycle as well because we feel so disappointed in our choices and the things that we’re doing. And if we would just recognize the source, be open to the information. Then we can look at how to kill those parasites with natural herbs and we can talk about that. The herbs that people can find and the things that you can start eating that will naturally have that detoxifying effect.
We’ve seen remarkable improvements, even just in my family. My wife, my in-laws, my parents, my grandma with doing the things that we’re talking about. And so, knowing that these things will naturally build up. You can’t get around the issue. You keep getting more and more exposures. It’s just going to be like the the straw that broke the camel’s back. And it is hard to trace to one particular thing. And that is why doing detoxification. That, for example, taking things that would be considered a universal toxin binder is fantastic because it’s going to bind onto toxins. Including chemicals that are in the body or even the the residue of the on flow of things like BPA. Which is used to mold plastic or even things that will help bind parasites or to help be a carrier to bring in powerful nutrients. So that the body can can disburse this around the body and then get them to the places that they need to be in order for these natural medicines to have an effect. And then to help remove toxins, parasites from the body. These are the types of things that we start then to understand the universal nature of the issue and the universal nature of the medicines that I believe God has given us to be able to help. Then we can turn this situation around.
Nathan Crane
You know, I appreciate your metaphor of the straw that broke the camel’s back. Because with cancer or any chronic disease, you know. Specifically the cancer diagnosis, right. That’s typically almost always what happens. Is that it’s a combination of lifestyle events and choices and trauma and diet and all the toxicities and parasitic infections and all of these things over time. And we know cancer in most cases, we’re detecting it earlier and earlier now. But in most cases it’s been forming in your body at least seven to 10 years before it’s even diagnosed. And in lots of cases it’s been forming for decades, right. And it wasn’t that, oh. I ate a piece of bad pork 20 years ago and now I have cancer. It’s this accumulation effect exactly as you’re talking about and it eventually, you know. But one of the things that I think is important for people to know about that. ‘Cause you’ve already mentioned inflammation a little bit. And I know autoimmunity you cover a lot in your great work around autoimmune disease and inflammation.
But we know with cancer one of the core causes. It’s not an effect of and it’s not only a symptom of. It’s actually a scientifically proven cause of cancer is chronic inflammation. When your body is chronically inflamed and the body goes through this repair and inflammatory process. It gets inflamed and then the body repairs. Inflame, repairs and through that process what happens is cells get mutated and become cancerous. And if your immune system is not functioning at its highest potential. Then your body is not getting rid of these cancer cells, right. And all of a sudden months, years, decades go by and you have a cancer diagnosis. Chronic inflammation is almost always one of the core factors involved in a cancer diagnosis.
And as you’re talking about the importance of parasites. Parasitic infections as well as you’ve already talked a bit about toxins. You know, heavy metal toxins and so forth. Those things, including parasites, cause chronic inflammation in the body. And so, you can easily identify, right, if you have parasites that are causing chronic inflammation over years and years and years and not even knowing it. They can certainly be one of the contributing factors to that cancer diagnosis. So, as you’re talking about, one. We’ve got to avoid parasites and heavy metals. But two, we got to get them out of our body because we know most people actually have them already, right. So, how do we do that?
Jonathan Otto
Absolutely. That’s so important, so good. And I can go into detail with it. Like a couple of different case studies of things that were so aggressive. And I’ll list that ’cause you’re asking and that’s a very good and important question that we all need to solve. Like what are the things that we can take? What are the things I look for? Let’s say, for example, if I’m going to take an anti-parasitic supplement. What ingredients should I look for? Or if I’m going to try to do this from the perspective of going to the supermarket and grabbing a bunch of different fruits and vegetables. Like, for example, turmeric and ginger. These are things that are essentially anti-parasitic. Pumpkin seeds, papaya seeds.
These are things that you can work on to try and see whether you can have some success with that. It’s not my go to because I do like to see what’s the best and what’s the easiest way to take take these things. To swallow capsules, for example, before you go to bed. And so, some of the ingredients I’d look for would be things like Mimosa Pudica Seed. And I would look for extracts of that. And that one’s less common. So, you can look around for that. It’s out there, Mimosa Pudica Seed and the extract. The one that had a really strong clinical trial and it was the 10 to one extract. And it was showing that it’s as powerful as antiparasitic drug or a specific drug. So, that’s a really profound tool to use.
Green harvested black walnut hulls. So, black walnut hulls are very good. The hull because these things are naturally anti-parasitic. And that’s how the hull of the walnut is protecting the walnuts. But the green harvested as well. It’s very taut and this is, again, good. It’s poisoning parasites. It’s poison to them and it’s not poisoned to you. So, that’s very good. Specifically targeting the bad guys versus nuking the rest of your body like if you were to take the antiparasitic drugs. And the big problem with taking the antiparasitic drugs is that you typically can only take them short periods of time because they really do damage your gut flora. So, doing an anti parasite cleanse for 30 days would be like, it’s not enough, right.
So, 60 days would be better. And then 90 days is really very optimal. And again, this is very cost effective because that would just be like if you were taking a supplement. You would just take three. We’d take one month supply and you do that three times for three months. And then you’re done with that. But Triphala is great as well, it’s a carrier. It helps to move the toxins into the intestines to help remove the toxins from the body. Then you have Wormwood and you have clove, aloe vera or extracts of aloe vera. Extracts of garlic that are antiparasitic. There’s some examples of some really great tools. And then you can be eating more raw food while you’re doing this because you don’t want to be eating like, one. I do very much advocate people getting off of wheat. I do think it’s very problematic.
It causes a lot of issues with auto immunity and inflammation. And then if there’s ever a time to say, okay. I’m really going to try this is when you’re doing a parasite cleanse. Because you’re getting your system flowing. You don’t want to be backed up, constipated while you’re trying to get rid of parasites. You want your system to flow. If you’re going to the restroom more than often that’s actually a good thing because you’re getting toxins out of your body. That’s how toxins get out. When you’re detoxing bowel movements become more important than ever. So, that gives you a bit of perspective. But I think some of the big things that will alert people to realize how much they should do this. Would also be to look at some of the case studies if you’re interested in me sharing some of the things that we’ve seen, the breakthroughs.
Nathan Crane
Yeah, absolutely. And before you do I just want to mention a correlation that I think is really fascinating between parasites and cancer. We know cancer. Its number one source of energy is glucose, is sugar, right. Now, we know cancer can actually adapt and even feed off ketones which is like ketogenic diet. Is not necessarily the go to solution for cancer. We know it can adapt and feed off of other energy. But we know its number one source of sugar. Well, from what I understand and the research I’ve done. And you probably know more than me on this particular subject. But I mean, I’ve been doing parasite cleanses for probably well over a decade. So, I have a lot of just personal experience with it.
I’ve actually done your cleanses as well. Some of your products which I think are great ’cause they’re all organic. And that’s one of the things I always look for in any supplements that I take, right. But one of the things that is very interesting is most parasites also feed on sugar, right. A high sugar diet just like cancer. I’m not necessarily talking about healthy sugars when you’re eating a banana or you’re eating an apple where you have the fiber and all the phytonutrients. You know, the antioxidants and often anti parasitic effects that you’ll find in certain fruits and vegetables as well even though they have glucose. I’m talking about processed sugar. I’m talking about drinking sodas or pops or highly.
High fructose corn syrup or things you’re going to find like that. There’s an interesting correlation there. Cancer free zone sugar. Most parasites feed on sugar as well, right. So, what’s interesting about all the herbs that you’ve mentioned. And I know that are also in your supplements are the facts that the things that parasites hate the most are bitters, right. Bitter herbs, bitter roots, bitter plants, bitter vegetables.
The things that most Americans and I’d say most even let’s say modern civilizations today are actually avoiding in their foods is the bitters. Those are the things that our bodies actually need the most to help get rid of parasites, right.
Jonathan Otto
Such a good point, absolutely. You’re right and that density of phytonutrients can be different. Like the taste but your taste buds can train to it and start to really enjoy those flavors. Especially if you balance it out as well. Like if you’re having a salad that has these dark leafy greens like rocket and kale has some aspects of that. But then if you have some chopped apple on there or grapes or some things that balance the flavor, it’s very delicious. And it’s very nutritious for your body. The radishes and things that are strong. Very, very good. And for me I don’t do so much with the chilies and that can be effective and helpful with parasites. But I’m also careful with the mucosal membrane and making sure that you’re not having tummy upset from having a lot of like chilies and things like that. But so, the things that I’m mentioning are ways to get around that. But to get this potency of nutrients and to help your body.
Nathan Crane
So you’re saying I got to tone it down on the chili. I don’t know if I can do that, man. You know, ask my wife. She’s from Mexico. She says I eat more chili than people who live in Mexico.
Jonathan Otto
I feel you bro. I need to keep an eye on myself. My background is my mom’s Malaysian. And so, I naturally have an interest in the spiciness. But yeah, I know what you mean. I would keep an eye on it. I would look at the studies and just keep an eye on it. Just to make sure that the gut is safe and protected, yeah.
Nathan Crane
So, you had some case studies you wanted to share.
Jonathan Otto
Yeah, I think that it’s very encouraging for people. I think that this is what gives people a lot of hope. And so, you can look at all the studies. Like, for example, you look at the fact that the study I mentioned with the Toxoplasma gondii parasite. That causing for people this issue with not being in control their thoughts and depressive thoughts and high anxiety. And that resulting in suicide attempts seven times more than the general population. Then you start to realize, oh man. Well then what would life look like if you got rid of the parasites? And that’s a very important point. So, what I’m saying is completely backed up by science. And so, when we have like hundreds or even thousands of people that are using these types of things that we’re sharing and they’re getting back to us.
Then for us to confirmation that these studies are true versus it being purely anecdotal with no scientific background. So, to share some awesome amazing things. Like things that don’t seem solvable. Like you, you feel like a real idiot sometimes when you explain to people, look. They tell you some crazy condition that just is a rare case and you just you’re listening to it. And they’re expecting you to explain some kind of diagnosis that they will like, this is what you do for arthritis. This is what you do for toxicity of the liver. This is what you do for cancer. This is what you do for. But when you start to realize that this is what all people need to consider doing for the health of their body. And then you see, okay. Well, we started just applying these to all different circumstances. All different kinds of challenges and diseases. And then we will finding, wow. This is just fascinating and again. To be careful of the claims that I would end up making by just even sharing this. I’m saying that people detoxifying their body has amazing effects on their health. And so, I’m not saying that this cures disease.
I don’t think that this is within that conversation. I think that what I’m talking about is within a different conversation. That is toxins in the body. Your body has some kind of issues and for example. If I was to cut my arm and the arm got infected. Now, would that wound heal while the infection is present? The answer is no, it wouldn’t heal. The dirty wounds would create an environment whereby the body could not heal. And the infection has to be cleaned and then the body can heal. This is how disease works. And if you broke your leg you wouldn’t tell me anything. You expect your bones to heal back together. You wouldn’t expect them to stay broken. And the same thing is true with the body. The body does heal but it needs to be rid of the toxic layers of infection. So your body knows whatever disease you have.
Your body knows a lot better than any doctor you could ever talk to. Your body knows how to give you the right amount of heartbeats and breath while you’re sleeping to keep you alive. It knows what to do. So, help your body. Help your body by getting rid of the infections. So, look at what happened to Natalia Volotion. I met her, ready, in two days January 6th one year ago. And she came in touch with us in August of the previous year. And what she had was she had vasculitis Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, myositis and another issue. Yeah, I said vasculitis, rheumatoid arthritis, myositis, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. Four autoimmune conditions. And these were causing her such issues that she was at Cleveland Clinic.
This woman had spent over $200,000 over the course of five and a half years. And that was the money that she was wanting to put into a house. And that the poor woman then at the end of this was left suicidal. And told that in two weeks your legs are gonna have to be amputated because her legs were so big. Like basically what you would see is like the fluid retention. So, like elephantiasis. When you see images of massively enlarged legs. And this poor woman suffering so badly. And they said, well. We can save you from getting your legs amputated if we give you a very high dose chemotherapy. That’s very interesting because we’re talking about autoimmune disease and now here’s the treatment.
What chemotherapy to reduce inflammation? It shows the correlation. It’s just an interesting anecdotal reference to the fact that the steroids and in this case chemotherapy being used to combat the issue. And this did help to stave off this amputation. But her kidney function was reducing. One of the kidneys shrank significantly. And then she was told, don’t worry. Once you lose kidney function we’ll put you on dialysis. And then for her she again, suicidal. And this woman, I kid you not. I interviewed her like, one. The camera failed the first time. So, I had to interview her a second time. The first interview is two hours, the the second one was two hours as well. Poor woman had to sit with me for four hours but she did it willingly. She wanted other people to get better and to heal. And it was so profound hearing her and it brought me to tears multiple times during the interview.
Because the only pleasure she had in life was the thought of killing herself. And it was so hard for her to kill herself because she was wheelchair bound or she could hardly move. And she had to get assistance and no one was going to assist her to do it. And then she’s having to think about this. And this is the only pleasure she has of the relief from the pain. Today I tell you that she’s I believe perhaps the happiest person I’ve met in my entire life. She’s back to swimming and cycling. She did Pilates moves where she was standing on her head. Her legs are slender, her body is slender. She’s slim. She’s got that booty, body. Booty, . She’s got the body. I’m trying to say body. She’s got the… People had just laughing, that’s so funny. She’s got the body that like a mid sixties year old woman with long to have. And this is somebody that was way behind the eight ball and in this dramatic situation. And she completely listened to what we said in a series that we did called Autoimmune Secrets.
And she said I’ve heard many of these things. Because the money she spent was largely on holistic doctors and then launched. And basically half half between conventional and holistic. So, it wasn’t like she wasn’t trying holistic. She said I’d heard many of the things that you taught about. And some of the different practitioners use these things but no one did it with me in a sequence. Nobody took me through the sequence. And we were just explaining you need to do all of these things. You need to get rid of heavy metal infections by using universal binders like fulvic and humic acid. Like we use something with quadriceps as well to help with that. And dandelion roots and milk thistle ’cause they’re going to help with the liver and the kidneys. And then that’s the toxic metals.
The humic and fulvic being very, very good for that. Using liquid fulvic or powder fulvic. But high potency fulvic, not just like any fulvic. ‘Cause it needs to be high nutrient source ’cause it naturally has in it over a hundred micronutrients, 71 minerals. And those minerals bind to inorganic synthetic minerals like aluminum and it’s very fascinating. If you look at the nutrient profile in fulvic. It has quite a high amount of organic plant aluminum that actually binds to synthetic inorganic aluminum and helps to remove it from the body. This is the only way I can explain the dramatic results that this woman had. When you look at the fact that somehow in a mysterious beautiful God given way.
These medicines bound to toxins in our body and let her body heal herself. There’s no way that any particular thing can have this kind of result. Her body healed herself but she needed help and then she removed the parasites. She obviously was off the inflammatory foods. She reversed Hashimoto’s by getting off gluten wheat before she came in contact with us but the other conditions were still raging. And then improving the diet and increasing the gut flora. Healing the gut lining. Helping and assisting the body with digestive enzymes and probiotics. That was the large package of what she did and she just kept consistent. She didn’t give up in three months. She actually stayed the course for over seven months doing the parasite cleanse ’cause she kept feeling better, kept getting results. So, when you keep feeling better don’t give up until you’ve really reached a place where you know that your body has had that turnaround. She’s one of many people that have had results that are so breathtaking that I have to share this and get the word out.
Nathan Crane
Yeah, thank you for that. I mean, it does give people hope. And you just mentioned, you know. Stick with it as long as you need to. But I would even add to that. Like myself, I do parasite cleanses. I do heavy metal detox. It’s just part of my lifestyle now. Now, I don’t live on these herbs 24 seven because nobody should, right. You need to take breaks from them. You need to allow your body to adapt naturally. There’s no human being in any natural let’s say, you know. Living in harmony with the planet society would ever take all these herbs every single day for the rest of their life.
Jonathan Otto
Right.
Nathan Crane
And we know from studies and master herbalists have known this for a very long time as well. That you want to cycle on and off but if you’re dealing with a really chronic condition. As you said, she stayed on it for seven months right, before maybe cycling off. But even so, there’s maintenance that happens even to help your body. ‘Cause you’re still gonna come into contact with VOCs from the carpets in your house. You’re gonna come into contact with heavy metals even in your water, right. In the food nowadays. You know, it’s just about everywhere. The BPAs, the plastics in the drinks. It’s just going to come into contact with it. So, there’s like I don’t know if this is kind of how you advise people. But there’s really like the intense treatment protocols, right. Which is like, okay. You’re going to do these things intensely for a period of time. And obviously everyone tuning in should consult with your integrative doctor, your holistic practitioner. You know, your naturopathic doctor to help guide you in some of these timelines, right. But there’s an intense period and then there’s an ongoing maintenance period just to keep your body thriving for years to come.
Jonathan Otto
Absolutely, yes. I completely agree with that. The intensity is fantastic because it’s giving your body this shock to the system in a powerful and good way. And the key there is to do things that support the body. So for example, don’t detox and like to eat rubbish. And then you’re gonna have this ying yang. If it’s an ultimatum then I’ll say go ahead and do the detox because just put one foot forward. And then just the next steps you need to take you’ll start making them. And even if you don’t make them none of us are going to make it perfectly.
Like I can’t emphasize enough. Joe, don’t be a perfectionist with any of these things. Don’t over think it. Just get started, just try. And just do these things but support your body in that process. For example, digestive enzymes are very powerful to help you. Because our bodies are not naturally producing the enzymes that we need too often, particularly after age 40. But a lot earlier for a lot of people. And if you ever have digestive discomfort then that’s a good sign that you need to start taking these regularly. And that’s something that you can stay on. But I would use the plant based ones like bromelain from pineapple and papaya. Papain from the papaya, as examples, to support the digestive system while you’re detoxing.
And then you can even take other herbs that will help you to cleanse your colon. Or you can take a supplement that will help that to continue to move while you’re taking these antiparasitics and to combat toxic heavy metals. I do these things at the same time and I recommend people doing them at the same time. I think it’s great to hit it all in one. I think that one of the major issues that a lot of people face is when they get rid of toxic metals and they don’t get rid of the parasites or vice versa. If they get rid of the parasites, they don’t get rid of the toxic metals. They can actually feel worse because parasites help to absorb those issues with metals as an example. I mean this is quite anecdotal, some of the reports. But you can look at some of the very interesting information seeing the co-relationship there.
So, getting rid of the multiple infections is really what can make a huge difference and then going intensive. Even just committing to a three month intensive. You know, I’m going to do this detox for three months. I’m going to go to do these layers. I’m gonna work on just making sure my diet’s good and clean. And I’m going to get off wheat gluten for that time or indefinitely anyway. And then I’m just going to support my body. And then ease off or do some maintenance. Some of the things that you can continue on would be digestive enzymes. Or you could do full week long term by just putting a few drops in water each day. 10 drops or 20 drops or whatever it is. You can stay on some of these things ’cause they’re general like multivitamins in a sense. Like it’s an organic plant, multivitamin that’s coming from this deep earth mineral that’s like over 4,000 years old. That has all the plant life from that old world and then you’re putting that into your body and it’s helping you. And it crosses cell membranes, deposit nutrients and then takes out toxins. And so, it’s a great general cleanse that people can stay on ’cause it’s not aggressive.
Whereas if you’re taking something that’s very aggressive that’s got fulvic and humic. And it’s got quadriceps and milk thistle and dandelion root. That’s going to be more aggressive. And so, some people could stay on it for a full six months because their body is so toxic, like the one I mentioned. Or even longer because they keep getting better and they’re in the woods still. They’re still in the dog shed. But once you get out of there, yeah. Just get off that. Just eat really good, eat really clean.
You can do so much through eating like fresh leafy greens and drinking a lot of water and flooding your body with rich nutrients every day. And I saw my sister-in-law reverse lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. And she had rheumatoid arthritis since the age of seven and lupus for more than a decade. And I saw her in less than six weeks become asymptomatic on those and her lab work normalized. Her largest part of that protocol was drinking a gallon of water a day and doing green smoothies through the day. So, doing a full 32 or 64 ounces, 64 ounces. Putting it into Mason jars. So, drinking it four more times a day. So, that was her main staple and then eating raw practically all the meals. And then just putting any cooked food, whether it’s sweet potato or something, on the top of the salad. But the majority was all raw food.
And I saw her actually turn that around, my wife’s sister. And it’s been profound to see her do that. And so, these things. And then the supplements then become even more effective with people that wanted to go deeper and get more of these layers of infection which I 100% recommend. It’s so cost effective to do them. And so, then you do these things in concert with these other things to help improve your diet. And you find your body dramatically improving. And you put flaxseed and chia seed either in its own blend. ‘Cause you want to blend those things. You want to keep them in a fridge or a freezer if they’re blended because you don’t want them to go rancid. But using these to boost your plant based omega-3s.
These are very, very good to keep feeding your brain, making sure you’re not deficient. These are the smart ways to do plant based I do advocate. I think the plant based is such a profound way. We see the blue zones see that this is a fantastic way to live. We see the only blue zone that’s in America is the Loma Lyndon, Seventh-day Adventist. We see how they their plant based vegetarianism was profound in making them the longest living Americans in the world. So, the science in that sense is very undisputed in my opinion. But it’s about working out how that can work for you and easing into it. Not making it into a dogma or religion. Like what you eat is not a religion. It’s taking care and loving your body and it’s about making those steps.
Nathan Crane
Yeah, I’m glad you brought up the diet. And I’ve done a number of interviews for the symposium. I want to encourage people to go listen to specifically on the most scientifically backed validated anti-cancer diets. And it’s exactly what you’re talking about. And we go into a lot of depth. Dr. Joel Fuhrman, go listen to that interview. It’s incredible. Dr. Thomas Lodi, Dr. Nathan Goodyear. These are medical doctors, integrative medical doctors. Holistic medical doctors that are working hands on with thousands of cancer patients. And seeing incredible results by changing the diet exactly as you’re talking about. So, I wanna encourage people to go listen to those interviews. And as you were talking about those we’ve also got to get these toxins, these parasites, these infections out of our bodies, right.
We’ve got to stop putting them in through the foods and the waters and the toxic exposure. But we also got to keep getting them out. And to your point, you know. You said something really valuable a moment ago that I don’t want people to skip over. Is that when you have multiple infections, multiple toxicities. You don’t necessarily just want to focus on one, right. It’s like if you have a garden and your garden is infested with mites but it’s also infested with a certain type of worm that’s eating your plants. And it’s infested with locus and it’s infested with squirrels.
And it’s got all these infestations, it’s destroying your entire garden. You can get rid of one of them but your garden still is going to get eaten away, right. And so, if you focus on all of them then you’re going to have a thriving garden. And that’s how I look at the body. We want to have a thriving body like a thriving garden. And so, we want to focus on these things. You know, the micro flora and the gut. The getting rid of the parasites, getting rid of the heavy metal toxicity. All these things you’re talking about as an ongoing holistic approach to ultimate health and healing. And I love what you shared. You shared a lot of really good practical things for people to do. Just to really start taking back control of their health. And I know you’ve got some great supplements too. You know, welloflife.com. Some that I’ve used specifically for parasite cleanses and detoxing heavy metals. Talk a little bit about that. Where’s a good place for people to start if they want to start going on some of these more comprehensive cleanses to help get this stuff out of the body?
Jonathan Otto
Awesome, I appreciate it Nathan. Well, and that all came from just seeing the changes that could happen in people. And knowing that there was certain things that weren’t quite accessible for people. They weren’t together in a formula and just realizing, oh. It’s so simple, if only we could do this. And I feel like God really opened the doors for me to have had the right doctors and scientists consult with me. To help create these amazing formulas and formulators that were supportive and gave this amazing wisdom. And Well of Life as you mentioned welloflife.com on there. You can see formulas like power purify which is. It has the, again. Like these ingredients are out there.
So, I list all the ingredients during the interview ’cause I want people to know these are the ones that we found the most science on and we saw the most results on. And then that’s why we put them into the formula but that you know about them. And so, you can go and shop and find this like wherever you like. And what we did. We put them into the formula just to make life easy for people and make it cost effective and make our stuff really affordable. And so, the mimosa pudica seed. The green herbs, the black walnut hulls, the wormwood, the aloe vera, the clove and the extracts of those and the combination and triphala. That’s in ParaPurify. Again, just if there’s any one product that you’re going to take, try it. It’s fantastic. It has really helped our family so much.
My mother-in-law just left on a plane this morning, she just left. And she’s someone that went from a size 14 down to a size six to eight. And she didn’t do it like by dieting. And then you’d be like, well. How does somebody do that? I’m kind of like, I don’t know. You might think I’m a bad son-in-law but I literally did say, hey look Marilyn. You need to work on your weight, you’re overweight. And then she said, well. I’m not overweight. I’m not that, that. You just kind of accept it. And I was just like, look. I don’t care if people hate me. I’m just done with caring that people hate me right now more than I care about their health and their wellbeing. And so, she used ParaPurify. And she just seeing parasites coming out in a stool. She got off gluten wheat. The combination of those things. Like we saw her just drop dress sizes just so quickly that I saw her in H&M one time and she was shopping for size 14. And she didn’t realize that she’s already down to a size eight.
So, she was so off she had to keep going through the sizes. And I actually secretly filmed that because I thought it was so touching and amazing. That these things can be effortless if we’re willing to go for the root causes. So ParaPurify, very profound. A formula to help people with getting rid of these nasty bad guys, stay consistent with it. Toxic binder is really, really helpful in that it is a universal toxin binder. It has quadriceps and fulvic and humic and it’s from some of the richest sources of fulvic that we have in the country. And it’s got the dandelion root, milk thistle and it’s a very powerful formula to help bind the toxin.
So, I do believe in people taking those side by side. And we have things like ultimate detox bundle which has that in the colon cleanse. So, people can just take it together. And take the instruction sheet and we have special discounts on that. So, there’s a lot of different things you can do there. The digestive enzymes are there. And some of that got repairing supplements like Biome Renew 4. And Gut Repair 360 to help repair the gut lining. So, people can just get started and start seeing the results. And start trying it out and seeing their life improve. And they’re covered by a 60 day money back guarantee. So, you can try it to see if it works. So, like we take the risk because we just so much believe in it. We’ve seen so many results. We’re happy to take the risks from people.
Nathan Crane
Yeah, thank you. I mean, thanks for putting these great products together to make it easy for people. And I do want to just let people know. I mean, I’m all about and highly encourage and really invite you to approach your health from a multi prong approach, right. So, take the parasite cleanse. Take the heavy metal cleanse. You know, rebuild your micro flora. Take these herbs that Jonathan’s talking about. You know, use these as one piece of your healing protocol. But if you’re not changing your diet then you’re missing out on another really huge piece. If you’re not removing the toxins from your home and from your life as we covered with Ryan Sternagel in this symposium. You need to go listen to it as well as a couple of others. You know, you’re missing that piece. If you’re not doing what I have coined as medicinal movement.
Which is an entire formality. A form of movement you should be doing six days a week, 30 to 60 minutes per day. Then you’re missing out on the benefits of your lymphatic system and boosting your immune system. And all the feel good chemicals that come from your brain. And all the health promoting benefits of the exercise, you’re missing that. If you’re not doing the juicing and the green smoothies and so forth, you’re missing that. So, this is one of the really important pieces and I encourage people to do it. But don’t forget about everything else too, right. Don’t think just I’ll just cleanse parasites and I’ll keep everything else the same. I won’t exercise. I’ll eat garbage. I’ll lay around all day. It’s like, no.
You will get benefits here. Especially if you have a chronic condition like cancer. Especially if it’s an advanced stage of cancer. You need to approach it from every single aspect of health and healing and vitality that you possibly can. So, you know Jonathan. I just wanted to say thank you so much for the great work you do. You’ve put together, you’ve created, you’ve edited, you’ve helped produce just a series of totally life changing documentary series. I’ve seen a number of them. And I have your Autoimmune Secrets. I encourage people to go watch those documentary series as well. I encourage people to go to your website, welloflife.com. And look into doing some of these great cleanses and purifying products that Jonathan has. And I just want to thank you brother for the great work you do. For the scientific research you look into. For the information based in science that you bring to the world to really help and change and transform people’s lives. So, thank you and thanks for sharing your time with us man.
Jonathan Otto
Thanks so much, Nathan. It’s always a pleasure to connect with you. And I really admire and respect your work as a filmmaker, filmmaker to filmmaker. I very much admire your work and your knowledge and your expertise. And the fact that you do go with the research and cancer is such a sensitive subject. And so, I wouldn’t interview here if I felt like you were leading people the wrong direction. I believe that you are leading people in the right direction. And that’s profound. And so, I just thank you so much for that work that you’re doing. People need that help. And I know that the love that people feel from you and your sincerity in your work does not go unnoticed. And so, I see that and I respect that man.
Nathan Crane
Awesome brother. Thank you man, same here. I really appreciate it. And yeah, and I want to thank all of you for tuning in here to the Global Cancer Symposium. Make sure to share this with friends, family. Anybody you know that needs to hear this life changing, truly life changing information. Make sure to visit welloflife.com. You can learn more about Jonathan’s supplements. All the great cleansing herbs and programs that they have there. And take a look at healthandhealingclub.com. You can learn more about our global membership dedicated to helping you get and stay healthy. Again, I’m Nathan Crane. I wish you all ultimate health and happiness, take care.
