Healthy Living with Hydrogen

Paul Barattiero, ND

Barattiero.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Dr. Barattiero is here and he’s lectured across the world in the last 22 years and 13 years ago, he set out to educate the world on the benefits of hydrogen gas. And so we are gonna learn all about hydrogen today and how it relates to you and how it can help you in your menopausal journey. He covers the critical role of molecular hydrogen in reducing oxidative stress and inflammation, which is the leading cause of disease. He developed the echo water systems, as well as other products to modulate immune and cognitive function, I’ve got your attention now, right? These are important things. He’s been on national television in USA, Germany, Switzerland, and he’s passionate about the prevention of pathologies. He founded Synergy Science Inc in 2011 and developed a full line of products focused on detoxification, cognitive increase, increased immune function and gut recovery, which are all crucial things in mastering your menopause transition, so ladies, I’m excited. He’s here, I hope you are too, welcome, it’s so nice to have you here.

Paul Barattiero, ND

Thank you so much.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So hydrogen, where do we begin? I guess, how did you get into this? First of all, like, what’s your personal story?

Paul Barattiero, ND

So the love of my life, my queen, my wife of 28 years, Jacqueline is her name and she’s incredible. But the first 10 years of our marriage, her health was not good and she, believe it or not had thyroid issues, gynecological issues, horrible menstrual cycles. I used to lose her a week every month. And since it’s all girls here, we can talk girl talk. She was going through a pad and two tampons an hour. That’s how much flow she was losing about 30 ounces of blood per cycle, and so she was highly anemic. And my scope of practice at the time was ankle and down and, and having to do with diabetes. So of course, I’m sitting there saying to myself, oh my gosh, I’m 31 years old, I’m married 10 years. My wife is not doing well. This is not the way it’s supposed to go. Like I gotta figure this out. Any good husband would do that. But this, I mean, I am in love with this woman and I wanted to, to help her any way that I could. And so I started doing research and came to figure out that water could be used as a healing modality, not just to wash your cars, not to shower in, but actually a health improvement mechanism. 

And so what I learned is that hydrogen gas, when you have it in the body, everything works the way it’s supposed to. The real problem is, and in my wife’s case, she had gut issues and that’s what caused everything else that was going on. And so when you have gut issues, you’re not able to produce hydrogen gas like you’re supposed to. And so you’ll have different types of food cravings, you’ll have anxiety, depression. There’s a lot of issues that can happen. Hormonally. And what have you, if you don’t have hydrogen balancing out all of these systems. So first I was able to get my wife drinking the water and within a few months, her menstrual cycle normalized. And I was like, oh my, like, that’s pretty serious. Cuz now she can leave the house instead of being in bed for a week, and so it was life changing for us as a family. And after that, her thyroid was helped and her energy levels increased and she was able to function and not be anemic and not faint at the drop of a hat sometimes, and all these wonderful things that were a benefit. 

And after all that I said, holy cow, we need to help some other people because I guarantee you there’s more than just my wife, that’s going through this. And so now of course it’s been almost 17 years. And the reality is that we’ve helped millions of people across the world with every type of issue or disease model that you’re talking about. And the reality is, again, I want everyone to know your body is supposed to be producing hydrogen. We call it flatulence. But the reality is, you have a tailpipe, like a car and you have gas that comes out of that tailpipe when there’s chemistry happening inside the body. And so gut damage is really the problem. And the hydrogen will fix gut damage within two weeks as well So it changed my life. I got really passionate about it. And of course that’s been my life’s work now.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Mm. What a good husband and doctor you are. I’m like, everyone should have a man who loves them. If you can, who loves, How you like love your wife. That’s very,

Paul Barattiero, ND

Oh, I do.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So I wanna just go back and do I know you’re like brilliant. So I wanna keep it basic biochemistry.

Paul Barattiero, ND

Yeah, yep.

Dr. Sharon Stills

But cause we don’t really hear, like, we hear, we need oxygen, we hear, we need ATP. We don’t really hear, we need hydrogen.

Paul Barattiero, ND

Correct.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So could you just kind of without getting too deep, but explain to us like what that means, ‘cuz this might be the first time women. Like what do you mean I need hydrogen.

Paul Barattiero, ND

Right? Okay, so let’s start with stomach acid. We know it’s what? Hydrochloric acid or HCL, what is that H? Hydrogen. So let’s just start out with, if you want to digest food properly, if you wanna not have acid reflux, if you wanna have your body functioning, you need hydrogen for stomach acid. Now let’s talk about brain. Normally you would produce gastric grelin, which is a hormone in the intestinal tract. You need hydrogen to be able to support that as well. We should be producing 10 to 12 liters of hydrogen gas per day. If we, if now this is the big, if, if we have the right bacteria in the gut, the anaerobic micro flora, then we’ll have these amazing bacteria called hydrogen tropes, and those hydrogen tropes will convert short chain, fatty acids, medium chain fatty acids, and fiber into hydrogen gas. Now the beautiful story in all this, the hydrogen tropes themselves that are producing the hydrogen will consume 30% of the hydrogen as their energy source. The other 70% part will go out the tailpipe and part goes into the body through the intestinal tract. And the primary responsibility is managing oxidation so that we don’t have oxidative stress and inflammation. We want oxidation to stay in a normal range. 

And that’s what hydrogen’s job is. So when we have gut damage or we have issues with our gut, not only is our immune function low, but our ability to manage oxidation in the body is less. So that’s really down from a very basic level. We need hydrogen for every single function in the human body. If you go down to the building blocks of your body, it’s carbon hydrogen chains. If we really go down to the base building blocks of our body, it’s carbon hydrogen chains. So please understand hydrogen’s critical and you’re supposed to produce your own hydrogen, but because of gut damage, you can’t. So I developed the machine so that not only can you get hydrogen in the body, so you don’t have oxidative stress and inflammation, which by the way, is the leading cause of disease. I don’t care what disease it is. You have plenty to choose from. But the reality is oxidative stress and inflammation is the leading cause of disease, including menopause, which is not a disease. It’s a condition or it’s an issue. But the point is it’s oxidative stress that’s causing this, but whether it’s bipolar, schizophrenia, Parkinson’s, cancer, diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis. It doesn’t matter. It’s all from oxidative stress and chronic inflammation. 

So again, naturally our body should be managing that on its own. But because I believe at least 97% of the population have a dysfunctioned gut. So you can’t process food properly. You have food allergies, you have anxiety, you have depression, you have other things that are coming because you have the wrong bacteria in a high amount. That’s really what gut dysfunction is. When we say gut damage, people hear leaky gut. I mean, you might imagine stuff rolling down your leg or something, I don’t know. I don’t know what leaky gut really means. But the point is really bacteria issue is what gut issues are. If we say we have a gut issue, then that means we don’t have the sufficient amount of anaerobic micro flora. We have more aerobic. Well that the problem with that is now you can’t eat fatty rich foods. You can’t eat fiber rich foods. You’re gonna be eating carbs and sugar because that’s what aerobic bacteria want. 

So don’t feel bad about your food cravings. It’s your gut’s fault. But if you’ll drink the water with hydrogen in it that I developed, it’ll fix your gut in two weeks so that you are not gluten and dairy intolerant, you can eat. And I’m not saying you have to eat gluten and dairy, but you should be able to process these types of foods. It is natural that we can do that. So I hope that answers that question in the fact that our body is supposed to produce hydrogen because of gut damages. Why you can’t and I’m here to help you get that back. I want you to be able to have your gut functioning. I want you to have immune function. I don’t want you to have oxidative stress, inflammation, joint issues, brain fog, being sleepy in the afternoon. I don’t want any of those things for you. I want you to live your divine potential. And that’s what I’m really all about.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Hmm. There’s a lot to unpack there. Thank you. That was a good, I like those examples. So I wanna just always put myself in the, in the listeners position thinking what are they thinking? So first of all, let’s talk about the tailpipe.

Paul Barattiero, ND

Yes.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So should we be passing gas every day?

Paul Barattiero, ND

Yes.

Dr. Sharon Stills

And how much, and should it smell? Should it not smell?

Paul Barattiero, ND

Well, the smell is based on sulfur or other things. We’re eating some things, you know the song, beans, beans, the magical fruit. So the reality is we can’t eat different types of foods and they will cause flatulence to smell. But really that’s. If we have a healthy gut, then we’ll have less of that. And we eat a more balanced diet. We’ll have less of that. And I’m not meaning that you need to be farting 24/7, and you need to be like having that happen all the time, I’m just saying you will be passing gas. It is normal. And if you’re not, that’s where you should be scared, if you’re not passing gas regularly after you eat. And often it’s because you’re not having the chemistry in the gut, that should be happening properly. And you need it for your health. Now, drinking my water is not gonna cause you to fart. That’s not gonna happen. It’s gonna fix your body and cause your body to function the way it was designed to function.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Hmm, interesting. I’ve never had a patient come to me, complaining of lack of farting.

Paul Barattiero, ND

They never will. In in fact, they’ll pride themselves, right? They’ll say I never fart. And I’m like, well then you’re unhealthy, you know? And they’re like, what? So husbands, when I, whenever I tell a husband and wife, farting is healthy, he’s always like hitting her, like, see I’m healthy and she’s like, stop it. You know? So anyways, it’s pretty funny.

Dr. Sharon Stills

You always know when you’ve gotten to that comfortable state relationship where you can fart in front of each other.

Paul Barattiero, ND

I would go that’s exactly right. Well, and when you fart and your wife laughs, that’s a good one too.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So why in the water? Can you not take it as a supplement? Can you not get it through? Like why do we have to get hydrogen through water? Why is that the best way?

Paul Barattiero, ND

Good question. So hydrogen gas, it’s a gas. So you can’t really get it through supplementation. Other than with water, you can breathe it in it’s called inhalation. You can breathe in hydrogen gas, but that has only effect on lungs and blood. Whereas when you use water as the mechanism, you have lungs, you have blood, you have brain, you have gut, you have mitochondrial function for ATP production. You have every aspect of the human body and you’re mimicking the way the body would normally process hydrogen. You wouldn’t normally breathe in hydrogen. In the atmosphere, you have hydrogen, but in the air we’re breathing, we don’t have a lot of hydrogen. So what we normally do is create hydrogen in our gut. So when you’re drinking water, it’s going into the gut. And so you can heal the gut. And also you’re hydrating yourself, which is most people are chronically dehydrated. So this is a great excuse to drink more water and be hydrated properly. And instead of being dehydrated and then you’ll get the hydrogen gas, which lose weight. 

Like we have people all the time that are losing 25 pounds in their first month because the inflammation’s coming down because their body is processing food more efficiently and they’re able to get stuff out and their body can, guess what? Make energy, it’s ATP. But your mitochondrial function will work. You’re not gonna be an Energizer bunny, like you’re on drugs, but you’re gonna have sufficient energy to go throughout your day and not be tired all the time. That’s huge in and of itself. Those are the kind of things that happen with hydrogen. And you wanna have water because you’re not gonna feel the energy boost with inhalation. You’re gonna feel it with water. And that is the most effective method of administration for hydrogen is dissolved in water.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So we talked, you talked about hydration, which we talk a lot of. We talk about a lot around here, ‘cuz it’s so important. Does hydrogen water hydrate you better than? I mean, I don’t think anyone should be drinking, tap water, but better than tap water or better than spring water, is it a better quality of water with the hydrogen added to it?

Paul Barattiero, ND

So hydrogen water means you have water liquid with hydrogen gas dissolved. Technically you could dissolve hydrogen gas in the most putrid water you could ever find. So that would not be good to drink. So really in focusing on the water that you’re drinking, I would say it’s extremely critical to filter water or to remove the contaminants. Don’t have your body be a filter, buy a filter. So that’s what you need to understand is, don’t cause your body to get rid of all the junk, get rid of the junk before you let it in your body. And so our devices, many of our devices, not all of them, but many of our devices have filtration in them that remove heavy metals, pesticides, glyphosate, lower deuterium levels, not that that’s important, but I’m just mentioning it for those of you that have done the studies or heard about it. The reality is we want to get heavy metals. We want to get drugs. We want to get pesticides out of the water. And all of our filtration does that. But we also have the echo RO, which stands for a reverse osmosis. 

That’s gonna be the most pure water and you’re gonna become a water snob really quickly because it’s such a pure, crisp taste. You’re gonna want to be drinking water more. Now, when we add hydrogen to purified water, yes, you will become a water snob. Your body will crave this and want it. And that’s what happened with my wife. When I first introduced her to the water, she would hold her fist and go, I can’t get enough of this water. My body is craving it, but she was healing and her body was needing that water. And so it was incredible for her and, and many people report the same thing. Their sleep was better. Their energy levels are more balanced. Their body wants this water. And when you know, when we’ve won, the war is when you have, when I have moms telling me that their teenage sons are no longer drinking soda, they’re drinking water because they like the taste of it better. We know we’ve done something great then.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Mm. Are all reverse osmosis machines created equal?

Paul Barattiero, ND

No, because your, your typical reverse osmosis has a tank. Ours does not. I developed one that’s that makes 1.2 liters per minute of reverse osmosis water. There’s no tank to clean out or to and you can sometimes if you don’t maintain it, you’ll have mold growing in the tank. And this is a problem. So we cut all that out. We have a unit that makes 1.2 liters a minute, if you’re on vacation and no one’s there to get water out. If you don’t use the RO system within a 24 hour period, it will go ahead and do a, a flushing program for 90 seconds. So we really have built all that in so that you never have standing water. You never have growing bacteria, you have fresh, clean, pure water for your life.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So how do the listeners know? ‘Cause I think this comes up a lot. Like they have a Berkey filter or a Brita, or they use their refrigerator filter, or they have some filter that some how do they know? Cause I feel like so many of those filters are not really superior not doing so. Could you speak to that a little, just to give some education as what the listeners should be looking for?

Paul Barattiero, ND

Yes, so many things that you mentioned, there are very basic basic filters. So when we’re talking about a fridge filter, it’s a very basic filter and all you have to do is read the packaging and it’ll tell you that all it takes out, is it all that does is chlorine and maybe some taste differences. So it’s not a real robust filter. The Berkey that you mentioned is a robust filter that’s equivalent to the filter that’s in our machines. So we’re removing the things like Berkey is, but it’s happening at a much faster rate. The reverse osmosis of course is way beyond any of those filtration systems because it’s removing every contaminant up to 99% rejection rate. And so that’s amazing, but most of the filters on the market, unfortunately are just carbon, which carbon does a great job, but it’s not gonna remove your pesticides, your glyphosate, all of your heavy metals. It’s not gonna remove all these things. We have multiple media in the filters built into the machine. And then of course in the reverse osmosis, we have four cartridges. Multi-stage, that’s removing everything in water. And so that’s what I would recommend. That’s what I have in my house of course, is the, I have a water softener. I have a whole house filtration system. And then I have my RO system, the echo RO.

Dr. Sharon Stills

And what about distilled water?

Paul Barattiero, ND

Distilled many would say would be the gold standard in medicine and natural medicine. And what have you, because you’ve really removed all the contaminants. I personally would put reverse osmosis and distilled on the same level. Reverse osmosis is not perfect and distilled is not perfect, but both of them are excellent filtration mechanisms. The reason I don’t sell a distiller is because there’s a little more maintenance. You have to clean out the calcium that’s left behind, the minerals that are left behind. Whereas in the reverse osmosis, they don’t, there’s really not much maintenance. You just change the cartridges as you needed. So it’s not like you’re cleaning something out every time, but I have no issue with distilled water at all. I think it’s excellent for your health as is reverse osmosis. So I have had customers that had whole house distillers or they had distillers on top of their counter. It’s great. It’s no problem.

Dr. Sharon Stills

What about the school of thought though? That distilled water is dead water?

Paul Barattiero, ND

I don’t agree. I don’t. They say the same thing about reverse osmosis, ‘cuz they’re saying because you’re taking minerals out that it’s dead. I would not agree that it’s dead. The whole misnomer of being dead really is. There’s no minerals in it, but I asked the question where do minerals in water come from, rock? And so we are not licking rocks nor do we get our minerals from rocks because those are inorganic minerals. We need organic minerals from vegetables and food. And typically your plants will take inorganic minerals from the ground, convert them to an organic state. And then we eat those vegetables and we get the minerals in a state that our body will use. So the minerals in water are not really for our bodies or for our health. And so whether or not you have them in water, doesn’t matter if you wanna have minerals in the water, that’s wonderful. It’s fine. It’s not really gonna affect your health much. If you wanna remove contaminants, typically you have to go deep enough to get the minerals as well.

If you really want to get all the contaminants out in the filters that are in our machine built in, we’re removing a majority of the contaminants, but we are not removing the minerals. So that’s an option for you. If you’re just bent on wanting to have the minerals in the water. I think a lot of people falsely say that if you drink water without minerals, it will somehow strip minerals outta your body. This is crazy because that would mean that water would have to have minerals for water to pull the minerals outta your body. That would mean that water somehow needs or has to have minerals for it to be happy or complete. And that’s not the case. Water doesn’t need minerals. The minerals are just riding along for a ride. So, and if all that was true, let’s just pretend for a minute that all that craziness was true. You have Seattle, that has five to seven TDS in their water. You have the South Carolina, North Carolina, Atlanta, Georgia. You’ve got many places, Switzerland, parts of Italy, I mean, you have many places in the earth where you have very, very little mineral content in the water. And if it was true that it was leaching minerals, you would see widespread mineral deficiencies and medical issues in these certain places. And we just don’t see that.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Gotcha. Okay, so what about alkaline water? Is hydrogen water, alkaline water is, like figure out that for us.

Paul Barattiero, ND

So alkaline water means the pH of the water is higher than seven and hydrogen doesn’t affect the pH of water at all. So you could have hydrogen water in any pH. You could have five pH water and have hydrogen. You can have eight pH. It doesn’t matter. I would tell you it’s not healthy to have alkaline water in your diet. And the reason being is your stomach pH is a 1.5 to 3.5, depending on how much gastric juices or water or whatever at that given moment, bile is a one and a half. So the reason you get up to three and a half, ‘cuz you’ve added gastric juice or you’ve added other things. Keep in mind that every single time you put a solution in your stomach, that’s higher than a three and a half. The higher it is above the three and a half. The more your body works to bring the pH back down and your body has to produce HCL. Well, here’s the problem. If you can’t produce hydrogen, you can’t produce HCL. So now you gotta buy HCL tablets ‘cuz you’re drinking alkaline water and it makes no sense. So drinking something, that’s alkaline that the stomach is gonna buffer. Like that makes no sense. The thought processor, the thing that people tell you is that somehow alkaline water’s gonna make your body alkaline, it’s false. 

And I’ll tell you don’t think it’s just you. I was sitting in a doctor’s office today that purchased our machine and I went down to train their staff and the chiropractor was like, okay. So I’ve been telling people, alkaline, alkaline, you’re saying that’s not at all. And I said, I’m saying it’s not at all. And I’m saying it’s actually harmful for them to drink it. There’s definitely 15 or 20% of the population they have would have a hurt time or effect. When drinking ‘cuz their body be balance will be put outta whack. Other people 85% are probably fine. But if you’re drinking high pH water, you can end up having potassium issues in the blood. You can start having issues because of drinking a higher pH. So in my device, in the hydrogen water, we don’t change the pH purposely. We leave the pH alone because they’ve studied it for 30 some years. Now there is no medical benefit, period, for drinking water that’s a higher pH. 

And think about it. You know I like these crazy stories. So just get ready for another one. If drinking a 9.5 pH water improved your health, then drinking one soda would kill you because that’s a two and a half pH. So you can’t own both sides of the equation or you can’t say, well wait, only drinking 9.5 is okay. But the 2.5 is not gonna do anything. It’s just the 9.5. That’s gonna help you. You can’t play that game for every action. There is an equal, and opposite reaction. You have to understand that in life that if you jump up, you come back down, you can’t just jump up and keep going. You can’t drink, alkaline water and just go. It’s gonna help me, but soda’s not gonna harm me. And people will say, well, I wanna make my body alkaline. And I’ll say, what are you talking about? Which part of your body? And they’ll be like, what do you mean, my body alkaline and I said, no such thing. Every organ is a different pH because it has a function, the stomach, the blood. So I said, are you talking about blood? And they’ll be like, yeah. 

And I’m like, okay, well guess what? Blood pH as a tiny window, 7.35 to 7.45. You’re not gonna adjust that by drinking anything. Or you would be dead. You’d be in shock. So one more breath per minute is gonna change your blood pH ‘cuz of carbonic acid. I mean any doctor who knows anything, knows all this stuff, this is chemistry. It’s basic chemistry. You cannot drink a liquid and it goes in your stomach and somehow change your blood pH or somehow change your cell pH because human cell has 13 different pH’s. Depends on which part of the cell you’re talking about. So there’s no such thing as getting your body quote unquote, alkaline. It doesn’t happen. And furthermore, anyone that tells you cancer can’t live in an alkaline environment, false information, never was, never is there a single study you can find that would support that. 

And yes, people are quoting Otto Warberg, but he never said it. He said cancer can thrive in a oxygen rich or an oxygen poor nothing to do with pH. He was saying that cancer is what? Thrives off glycolysis or sugar. Nothing to do with oxygen, nothing to do with pH. So again, I’m just trying to help you understand so that you, you don’t think all these crazy things that make no sense because they’re gonna tell you acid’s bad, but a lemon and a tomato are good and I’m like, whoa, you’re breaking your own rules here. You can’t have everything. You can’t say, you know, chocolate cake’s okay, but vanilla cake’s not okay. You can’t do that because it’s inappropriate. You have to make sure that the conversation and I would tell you pH of a liquid has no bearing on health and should not be talked about as some sort of health mechanism.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Wow. Kabam mic drop over there. So I don’t, I think I have a little more of an alkaline, but I wanna get to some other things. So you spoken.

Paul Barattiero, ND

And remember, one more thing. I’m gonna have some fun. There is no such thing as alkaline food. People think falsely that cucumbers are alkaline, but that’s a five and a half pH. So every food item growing on the earth is a pH below seven. It would be an asset. Otherwise it would rot. So understand, there’s no such thing as alkaline foods. There’s no such thing as anything alkaline that you’re eating, that’s natural. Other than alkaline water, that’s produced in a machine. So you don’t get alkaline stuff. Now you can find in the south Southern US 8.4 pH water where you have in Arkansas, for example, where you have high mineral content, because it’s lyme, it’s very soft minerals. So they’re very easy to get into the water. But again, it’s, it’s simply because of calcium in the water, but it’s not gonna improve your health, I promise you that.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So what do you mean? Like there’s no alkaline foods, like we say, like grains are acidic, although mill it and it’s alkaline or eating vegetables is alkaline.

Paul Barattiero, ND

It’s all false.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So are you saying that the foods we eat all make us acidic or what do you.

Paul Barattiero, ND

They don’t make you acidic or not. You’re not acidic. You know? I mean, it’s all false information. Every bit of it. And it all started with Robert Young, burning the food and then taking the ash and putting the ash in neutral pH water, and then saying that this cucumber or this corn or this salmon or this steak, when I burned it it made alkaline ash or acid ash, Well, who cares? You don’t have a fire burning inside of you. That’s not how we digest food. I mean, if you’re in the ash business, then yes, some foods make alkaline ash when you burn them with a flame, but that has no bearing with the body. We don’t burn food inside of us. We don’t have like some flame with a pilot light going on. And it makes zero sense. I mean, this is where you get into crazy medicine. It has nothing to do with pH. And so what happened is after going alkaline, ash, producing food acid ash, people just started calling food alkaline and acid, well, that’s false. If you take vegetables and make a smoothie and just put vegetables in there and then stick a pH meter in there, it’s in the fives. It there’s nothing alkaline about vegetables. 

So what people are missing or mixing up is mineral content. So a lemon, which has a pH of one, 1.5, two has wonderful calcium. Calcium’s good for you and, and eating or calcium in an organic state is wonderful for you. And that is going to aid the body to manage its alkalinity. But you’re not talking about pH, alkalinity means mineral content. So yes, we can use calcium gluconate, right? To balance saliva and urine pH’s. That’s a whole different conversation. It has nothing to do with the water you’re drinking or whatever it has to do with what you’re casting off at night. If you’re doing the first morning pee or something later in the afternoon. And so we know we can monitor urine saliva and, and urine and saliva. 

I said it like it was one thing urine saliva, but we, I know we can look at urine and saliva and we can look at is digestion, fast, slow, or whatever. And we call that reams testing. But the reality is drinking alkaline water is gonna have nothing to do with that. It’s not gonna, ‘cuz, well, here’s what I’ll tell you. If you don’t believe me, go make yourself a nice glass of 9.5 alkaline water, put a couple drops of lemon juice in it, and then retest the pH. And when the pH is acid, you’re gonna go, oh, I guess that crazy dude. In the blue jacket was right, because stomach acid is way more powerful than lemon juice for heaven’s sakes. And if a few drops of lemon juice can plummet the pH, then what do you think stomach acid’s? There’s no way that a water from electrolysis is gonna get through stomach acid, it’s not gonna happen.

Dr. Sharon Stills

What about people who don’t really produce stomach acid who are really achlorhydric or hypochlorhydric, what happens when they drink alkaline in water?

Paul Barattiero, ND

It’s even worse because now you put a metabolic burden on them because they can’t produce HCL to rebound. And so they’re gonna be in trouble.

Dr. Sharon Stills

And so the whole lemons are acidic, but when you eat them, they turn alkaline is BS.

Paul Barattiero, ND

It’s all BS for sure. But why are lemons good, calcium, and other wonderful minerals in them. Why are cucumbers good? They don’t have much sugar and they have great mineral content, and guess what else? Fiber. Now, if you have anaerobic micro flora you can convert that fiber to hydrogen and then boom, you have a beautiful, beautiful life. But if you have gut issues and you eat salads or cucumbers, you probably have diarrhea because you can’t process the fiber. So let’s get your gut fixed, which we can do in two weeks with the water, let’s get your gut fixed. And this is something you need to do the rest of your life. Because I have people that are funny they’re comedians and they’ll go, okay, Paul. So if you can fix the gut in two weeks, then why can’t I just rent your machine for two weeks? And then,

Dr. Sharon Stills

I was gonna ask that.

Paul Barattiero, ND

See, you’re a comedian. And so here’s the deal I say to them, okay. I’m willing to make a deal with you. I will give you a machine for two weeks to use for free. If you will promise me that you will never again, put anything in your mouth that has pesticides, heavy metals, pharmaceuticals, and is not organic and non GMO. And if you’ll agree to that, I’ll agree to it. And everyone’s like, mm, no, I can’t really do that. That’s a really tough choice. ‘Cuz if you’re telling me I can’t put in my mouth, I’m gonna be going without food a lot because I can’t get everything. So the reality is you get my machine and you drink that water the rest of your life. Because every time you go and you eat out and you don’t know the cleanliness of that food and you just ate glyphosate, which is gonna destroy gut bacteria, boom, you get home and you drink the water and you rebuild your gut bacteria right back up. And so it’s a constant process of destroying and building up and destroying and building up and destroying and building up. And so that’s just the way it is in the life that we live, unless you’re gonna grow your own food, unless you’re gonna like be like, seriously, what’s the word? Disciplined to never put anything in your mouth or go hungry, unless you can find something that’s extremely clean.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Cause it’s beyond discipline. You could be disciplined, but there just aren’t options so often, I wasn’t gonna ask if I could rent the machine, but my question was once you fix the gut, do you still have to drink the water so that,

Paul Barattiero, ND

I love it. Great question. Actually. Great question.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So do for the listeners, cause we speak so much about the gut and fixing the gut and taking glutamine, taking probiotics, taking all these short chain, fatty acids and butyrate. And so,

Paul Barattiero, ND

Yep.

Dr. Sharon Stills

What’s it like if you’re drinking this water, do you still benefit from taking those things or does this alleviate the need to take any supplements? Does this just take care of it all on its own?

Paul Barattiero, ND

It definitely will alleviate having to take most things people are taking. And that includes medications. Our record at this point is 35 prescription medications gone.

Dr. Sharon Stills

From one person?

Paul Barattiero, ND

One person, yep.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Wow.

Paul Barattiero, ND

So, and then we also have people with heavy mind altering drugs for anxiety, depression gone. We have people that were taking every kind of supplement you could imagine, gone. And if you really come to understand hydrogen, it modulates the same pathways as many of the supplements people are taking. So why are they taking the supplements in the first place? Because they don’t have hydrogen and they’re trying to chase symptoms with supplements. So here’s the deal. I don’t take many supplements.

Dr. Sharon Stills

I was just about to ask you.

Paul Barattiero, ND

I don’t do it, I take whole foods. I eat whole food, I take it like I take cucumbers. Just kidding. I actually eat whole foods. I eat ice cream too. Don’t get me wrong. But I eat a very balanced diet and I think it’s healthy to have fun. Sometimes I think it’s healthy to have snacks here and there. I have a theater room in my house and definitely we go down there and I have some ice cream here and there and sit and watch a movie with the love of my life. But the reality is live it up, enjoy life. But you have to have your gut intact to be able to do that. If your gut’s not intact, you’re gonna be allergic to every dang thing that’s good. Okay. And what I mean by good is ice cream is good. Okay. Chocolate is good. There’s wonderful things that are good. Gluten is amazing. Like every once in a while eat some freaking gluten. Okay. We’ve been doing this for thousands of years. It’s okay. The reason you can’t is because of gut issues. And so I can’t even tell you how many people have contacted me and said, dude, it’s been two weeks and I’m eating gluten and dairy and I’m great. I’m feeling wonderful, okay, we’ve won. 

We’ve won. That’s what you wanna do now. Please understand. I don’t care what you eat, eat string beans all day long. I eat like nuts and berries. I don’t care what you want to eat, eat what makes you happy. But you should be able to eat every kind of food because that’s our digestive system is designed to be able to process all types of foods. When you have the right bacteria mix in the gut. And that’s what we’re going to provide you by getting hydrogen back in the body, you’re gonna reduce oxidative stress inflammation and getting the hydrogen into the gut is going to change the epithelial tissue or the lining of the gastrointestinal tract needs to be a negative 300 millivolts of electrical potential to allow anaerobic microfluid to create a home and communities there, probiotics are a bandaid. They are not fixing anything. They’re gonna last a day. Maybe, what you need is you need to have flora and fauna, anaerobic, micro flora. You can never get that until you get the negative electrical potential strict anaerobes. And I’m talking the good bacteria in your gut require a negative 300 millivolts of electrical potential in the tissue where they’re gonna be established. You create that and they will come. And that’s my promise to you. And it’ll happen within an hour. This is what I’ve been doing for 17 years. We’re fixing guts rapidly two weeks. We’re fixing guts.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Is that with, I just wanna interrupt you for a second. So is that how many glasses of hydrogen water do you have to drink? Can you screw it up if you drink coffee too?

Paul Barattiero, ND

No, no. Nope, see, this is the beauty ‘cuz women are a beautiful creature. They get very granular very quickly, right? Like I have to do this and this guess what? I love women, I think women bring this, the beauty and the color to life. Don’t get stressed, just drink the water and don’t freak out. If you have a machine in your house, ‘cuz you’ve bought it, which you should, but you’re going out, out and about and you’re thirsty. Just drink water. You don’t have to have only hydrogen water. Every study out of the 1,179 studies there are, and you can go to hydrogenstudies.com and you can study the 1,179 studies. You can research whatever issue or disease model you wanna do. In those studies, the human studies, they were only getting 16 ounces a day of the water and it changed diabetes. Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s you name it. It did. So if you’re getting more than that, two or three times a day, four times a day, that’s a wonderful for your body. And, if you have joint issues, you’re gonna feel that. And the first day get better. If you have brain issues or what we call cognitive function, you’re gonna feel that in three minutes, three minutes, you’re gonna see a difference. So don’t get all concerned about the quantity, just have it in your body regularly and you will be amazed at how good you feel.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Wow. Wow, wow, wow. That was a mouthful. That was fantastic, thank you. Thank you, thank you. So.

Paul Barattiero, ND

Yeah, and especially women, I will tell you losing weight we’ve had in the last month, several, I have five or six women that have posted on social media saying I’ve been drinking this water for a few weeks and I’ve lost 25 pounds. I had joint issues. I couldn’t walk without hurting and now I’m doing exercises. And so we’re, it’s not a weight loss program. It’s not a disease stopping program. This is a way for your body to function the way it was designed to function. And that’s what I mean when I say, I want you to accomplish your divine potential, it’s you. That has a divine potential, it’s you. That can accomplish that. If you feel good as well as well as I do, if you don’t feel good, you’re not gonna serve other people. 

But if you’ve been sick and now you feel better, man, you’re out there serving other people that are not feeling well, that’s what we want. That’s what makes life beautiful as service to others. And when you were sick ones and you know what it’s like not to be, man, you want to help other people. It’s just natural. So all I can tell you is that you were supposed to produce hydrogen because of gut damage. You can’t. And I developed the machine to help my wife. And now I’ve helped millions of other people across the world accomplish their divine potential. It really is simple. It’s just drinking water. You don’t have to go to a mountain on Wednesday and eat a certain berries standing upside down. You don’t have to do any of this. It’s just water. Just drink it and feel good. That’s the protocol.

Dr. Sharon Stills

I’ve been a fan of hydrogen and water for quite some time, but you have just nailed it. I’ve just never heard it explained. I understand it so much better now myself. So thank you for the hydrogen lesson at the Mastering the Menopause Transition Summit. That was a, phew, knocked it out of the park.

Paul Barattiero, ND

Yes.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So I’m gonna wanna listen to this one again. There was a lot in there and just a lot of straightening out things that float around in society and what we think. So thank you and thank you for what you do in the world. And. So yeah, this has just been amazing. And I want you to tell the story about your wife and how old she is, ‘cuz I think that’s.

Paul Barattiero, ND

Well, I’ll tell you, here’s our picture. This is crazy, but there’s our picture.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Aw.

Paul Barattiero, ND

There that’s our son he’s 19 and my wife is almost 60. So yeah, I don’t know that you can see that picture, but anyways, she has, well, well she’s postmenopause, right. But people will say all the time, how old is your wife? Like 40 or whatever? And I’m like, no, no, no. And I’ll let her answer how, you know how old she is, but, I’ll tell her she was born in 1964 and you know, and they’re like, what? And they’re freaking out because these people are like 35 and I think she’s like almost their age and she’s like their parents’ age. And so anyways, I would just tell you that my wife didn’t have the complications in menopause. I don’t want you to have complications in menopause. I can tell you in Japan, there is no word in their language for hot flashes, for example, because if you balance your life, you don’t have to go through those kind of things. Menopause is a beautiful thing. And I know you’re probably wanting to slap me now, ‘cuz I’ll never go through it, but here’s the thing. It’s a beautiful change in life. It’s a part of maturing and, and going through a process in life. So you don’t have to have a horrible experience. 

You do not have to have that. We just need to get your gut functioning, your brain functioning and your body functioning to its peak. So I’m so passionate about this because A, I’m a big fan of women. And I love my wife and I know what it did for her and I want you all to be benefited. So we typically don’t discount our products, but we’re gonna do something very exclusive and very special for Dr. Stills for doing this and having me on. So if you go to synergyscience.com/drstills, you’re gonna have an exclusive discount for those of you that wanna use a credit card. That’s great, for those of you that want finance, ‘cuz you don’t have a credit card for a couple thousand dollars device or something like this. We have a finance program where you can pay a small monthly fee and then you end up paying it off and own it. So we do have that available for you. So no one can be left out. And of course our product started $149 all the way up to 5,000. So anywhere in between there you’ll have a place that you feel comfortable and that will fit your budget and your lifestyle. So of course we’ll answer any questions, but go to synergy S Y N E R G Y and then science.com/drstills and anything on our website, you’ll get an exclusive discount compliments of Doctor Stills.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Thank you. That is so kind of you to do for our listeners. And I really appreciate, I learned a lot tonight from you and I just think hydrogen water is really gotta be in our toolkit in, we have to drink water.

Paul Barattiero, ND

Yeah.

Dr. Sharon Stills

And so we might as well drink hydrogen water and get all the benefits, so thank you. Thank you for all you do, and for being here and making me laugh and educating me and loving women and loving your wife and you’re just, you’re just a brilliant force in the world. So I appreciate being here and I hope everyone appreciates his generosity and we’ll take advantage of that. So.

Paul Barattiero, ND

Oh yeah, thank you.

Dr. Sharon Stills

A lot of digest here. And maybe when we’re done, go have a good fart and.

Paul Barattiero, ND

Call it fart therapy, fart therapy.

Dr. Sharon Stills

There you go.