My Personal Story of Breast Cancer Hope

Elisa Gorman

Thank you for having me and I’m so excited to put this out there and provide some information and maybe some support for some people watching. 

Nathan Crane

Absolutely, I think it’s gonna help a lot of people. And I wanna kind of address something that I think is important to me and maybe to some of our viewers is, I mean you’re still pretty young, right?

Elisa Gorman

38, yeah. 

Nathan Crane

38, so to get a cancer diagnosis as such a young age unfortunately we know more and more people are getting diagnosed with cancer at younger and younger ages. But why do you feel you got cancer at such a young age? 

Elisa Gorman

That’s interesting, it’s a really good question. So I’ve done a lot of soul searching in the last couple of years since my diagnosis for that answer and I am BRCA positive. My mother’s history has been my mother, my grandmother, the generations before me have all had cancer. And for me, I think that I definitely turned my genetics on. I was not taking care of myself at all. I was living a life of basically not consciousness. I was just kinda going through the motions of life and being very busy and not taking care of myself. I was surrounded by a lot of stress. I was eating really awful foods. I was not moving my body. I wasn’t sleeping right. And all of those things awakened whatever that genetic makeup is and turned it on for me. 

And I feel like it was kind of a warning and a wake up call so that I would take a look at the things that I was doing and the people that I surrounded myself with and the foods that I was eating and the sleep that I was getting. And just basically even my vocabulary and how I was talking and speaking. And I would say that I think in the past, I would have come from a very egotistical victim mentality and that has very much changed. It’s still a work in progress but it’s very much changed in the last two years. And I think that’s why I was diagnosed so that I could take a look at my life. 

Nathan Crane

So when you say that your diet was really bad, what did a typical, you know, breakfast, lunch, dinner look like? 

Elisa Gorman

So, I’m in public relations and I deal a lot with the restaurant industry and the restaurant business. So it’s late nights, a lot of alcohol basically eating pizza carbs, dairy cheese was like my favorite thing in the whole entire world to eat. I don’t eat any dairy now, but yeah, it was just not good. It was like artery clogging diet. Like I didn’t have red meat in my diet I thought I was eating very healthy. ‘Cause I was like, “Oh I’m basically vegetarian, “I eat chicken and turkey.” But I was eating a lot of carbs, a lot of potato chips, a lot of processed food and wasn’t cooking enough. I was always eating out and eating late and I wasn’t getting enough sleep at all. I was out late a lot and that was years I’ve been in the restaurant industry working and then going into public relations, it’s been years. So that was my lifestyle. Just always moving and just eating on the go and not being conscious of what I was putting in my mouth at all. 

Nathan Crane

I mean, we know at least with standard cancer testing today we know at least in most cases seven years before tumors identified. Sometimes 10, 15, 20 years now there’s more and more testing. A lot of integrative centers are using where you can catch cancer cells through in your body much sooner than that. But generally speaking, you’re talking seven plus years. So, if you’re living that way for seven years, 10 years, 20 years of course things are gonna happen in the body, where you gonna create a perfect environment for cancer to thrive. 

Elisa Gorman

Interesting you say that because during this time too I was married and I was in a marriage that wasn’t a healthy relationship, although– 

Nathan Crane

There you go, was your husband that gave you cancer? 

Elisa Gorman

No. No, no, he’s– 

Nathan Crane

That wasn’t it. Okay, okay, just checking.

Elisa Gorman

But I was not fulfilled. I was in a relationship that wasn’t fulfilling to me and I was working very hard to have somebody see me and him and I are friends now and we can talk very candidly about this and we get along great. But then I was longing for something more in my relationship. And I was also emotional eating because of that. So, the stress of just being in a relationship and not being seen the way that you wanna be seen also can add to like that, not feeling loved, like that can add to all of that stuff turning on. It’s the emotional– 

Nathan Crane

Absolutely, absolutely. If you’re unhappy in life, in any way, especially 

Elisa Gorman

And that relationship– 

Nathan Crane

On an ongoing basis. 

Elisa Gorman

So a long enough for a tumor to grow. 

Nathan Crane

There you go. And then you add on top of it, the bad diet and the lack of sleep and all the other things you’re talking about. Right, you got a perfect storm. And so, you talk with people that have cancer, they’re reaching out to you, they’re asking you for support and guidance they’re asking you for hope and you’re getting some good insight into what other people are going through but when you’re with somebody and they tell you, I eat pretty healthy so I think I’m fine with my diet. What are some of the misconceptions you found in talking with people who think they eat healthy. But actually when you look at the diet you find out it’s not very healthy at all.

Elisa Gorman

So number one is, if you think you eat healthy but there’s any bloating or inflammation or any kind of discomfort or sleepless nights or not going to the bathroom regularly, go get a food allergy panel. Like, I cannot say this enough to just even if you don’t have cancer, but if you think you’re eating healthy, some of the foods that we eat are not good for us. And seasonal foods are actually the best for our body. So if we’re eating things that are coming from the ground and they’re organic and sustainable and they’re literally, there’s no processing to it, that is your best choice. I feel like people who say they’re eating healthy because they’re having a smoothie in the morning or whatever strawberries might cause inflammation for me that they do eggs strawberries, walnuts, chickpeas, there’s some items out there that are good for you but aren’t good for me. So, I think that before we people just start saying I eat healthy, it’s really important to make sure you’re eating properly for your body. 

Nathan Crane

It’s really important that you said that especially like if you have cancer we know that cancer one of the fuel sources is glucose is sugar, right? And people who reduce sugar with cancer say, “Well “I’m not eating any more sugar,” but then you look at they’re eating tons of complex carbohydrates and even simple carbohydrates. Fruit, greens like rice and gluten, wheat and other gluten containing grains. And they’re eating even quinoa if we consider to be healthy but they’re eating lots of these things, even though they’re organic and they’re plant-based, I’m not saying all grains are bad. I’m not saying all carbs are bad at all. But when you have cancer you have to be even so much more mindful because all of these carbohydrates turn into sugar especially when your body’s not burning them. 

If you’re not exercising enough or you might have gut issues almost everybody who at the cancer center for healing who gets tested for parasites candida almost every single patient has one or both. And so that’s messing up the intestinal flora and they’re feeding on all that glucose and it just creates this cytokine storm and this inflammatory response. So, and I’m not promoting ketogenic diet in any way, either. I think there are some problems with that, but really getting fine tuned talking with the nutritionist, finding out, like you said what’s gonna be best for your body but we do know reducing sugar and carbohydrates and introducing a lot more fresh vegetables, a lot more greens, a lot more even berries instead of fruit, nuts and seeds, instead of grains, all these things can really help your body to heal.

Elisa Gorman

Absolutely. 

Nathan Crane

Is that what you’re doing now? 

Elisa Gorman

Yeah, so I’m mostly plant-based. I have no carbs, no dairy, no sugar. I do eat like a green apple, I do have a banana once in a while but I try to stick to blueberries like I eat blueberries like crazy blueberries and almonds are like my afternoon snack. And I did start recently incorporating some grass fed pasteurized meat back into my diet because looking at my blood work, I am deficient in a couple areas. So, and we did notice that soon as I did start to incorporate like lamb and bison and some of those things back in salmon like once a week, or very rare, that does help and my blood work shows it. So I just really I get my blood work done every three months and it really gives me an idea of where I need to like hone back a little bit or where I can have a little more freedom. I’m definitely very careful about it but plant-based is mostly it. 

I do a lot salads, a lot of green juice, a lot of roasted vegetables, a lot of raw vegetables. I’m basically the veggie farm. My fridge is just lemons, spinach, kale, celery juice all day long. Yeah, it’s not very exciting but honestly I love it and I’m not hungry. I’m really not I find that I’m fueled. I’m very active, on the go my day starts at six, seven in the morning, I have a very regimented routine for myself in the morning when I get going. So I do about a million things. I take supplements and drink my tea and have my bath with Epsom salts and do my essential oils and like do my meditation and do all my things before I even like pick up my phone and then I start with my juice and then it goes from there and I do like a big salad and I usually don’t eat past seven o’clock at night. 

Nathan Crane

That’s awesome, that’s a huge piece right there. Maybe we’ll talk a little bit about why and how and what happens biologically with that a little bit. But I have two questions for you first. One, what’s your favorite green juice recipe? And two, where do you get your testing done? Do you go to a local clinic or do you do it from like an online at home services?

Elisa Gorman

No, I have a… Okay, so local testing I have a spot that takes really good care of me. I get my high-dose vitamin C, IVs there weekly. It’s called Peak Wellness. They’re in California and they’re here in Greenwich, Connecticut, and they do my blood panels and work with my integrative oncologist. And my, I have a regular medical oncologist also just to keep him around. And he definitely, he listens to me which is nice. And he kinda gives me my space and my freedom, but he doesn’t give me his opinion but he’s been the nice thing I like about him is he’s been around for a really long time and now he’s starting to really understand the integrative part and he’s starting to read studies and learn and he’s amazed by me. So it’s great. And I’m, so I get my blood testing done there. I definitely like the hands-on and the personal I’m one of those people who needs to be like cared for I’m kinda high maintenance that way. So I wanna a nurse, I wanna a blanket, I want like– 

Nathan Crane

You want a massage while you’re getting your vitamin C and a manicure. 

Elisa Gorman

Yeah, I’m a little spoiled about it. So I’m definitely taking care of it there. 

Nathan Crane

That’s self care to the max. So, we all need more self care in our lives. Absolutely, more power to you. 

Elisa Gorman

Yeah, so that was the first question. And then, sorry, what was the other question. 

Nathan Crane

So testing, so you go local, which is great. I know there’s online tests for people who don’t have somebody locally as you said though, I have a whole module in my upcoming masterclass in July called, Becoming Cancer Free. It’s a nine module masterclass and it’s one of the modules is all about why and how to build what I call your integrative success team which you’ve been doing. It’s having integrative oncologist. I always recommend having a doctor of naturopathy or naturopathic doctor or a doctor of oriental medicine, for example, somebody who is really trained in the natural as well as an integrative oncologist who has access to some of the latest medical systems and devices and testing and things like that. 

Elisa Gorman

And it’s so overwhelming. Like it is so the fact that you are offering that is amazing and it’s so overwhelming. So if I could say anything like just one thing at a time 

Nathan Crane

Mmh, beautiful. 

Elisa Gorman

Like literally, one step at a time because you’re not gonna find your people for me, my people just started coming to me. Like I got, I believe that when you’re on the right path and you’re supposed to be doing what you’re supposed to be doing, you’re not making choices out of fear those people will show up in your life and they’re there to teach you a lesson and they’re there to work with you. And some of my doctors have come and gone and some of my nurses have come and gone and some of my therapists have come and gone but I am never without a team. They might not be the same team from two years ago. And not for any reason other than I just outgrow them because I get all the information I need and then I just continue being led by my intuition and my own guidance and listening to my own body. My body’s smart, our bodies are smart. They move all day long for us. They know what they’re doing. 

Nathan Crane

Yeah, I love that. So, the second question I had was, what’s your favorite green juice recipe? 

Elisa Gorman

Oh yeah right, so my go-to lately has been water. I use filtered water and then it’s been celery, cucumber, spinach, kale and sometimes I blend in the Ninja but then sometimes I use my juicer. So it just depends how like liquidy and if I want like the texture, ’cause sometimes I like, I’m weird. Sometimes I like to feel like I’m chewing my juice even though like, I don’t know. But yeah, so ginger, turmeric, kale, spinach, celery and a green apple is usually what I put in, yeah. 

Nathan Crane

Those green apples obviously you put a lot more green vegetables, very low sugar, super important. But actually there’s a lot of benefit to a green apple in healing the gut and getting rid of things like candida parasites. But yeah, I just wanna put a note out there for anyone who doesn’t know with juicing, if you get into juicing and you haven’t been into it yet, make sure you don’t do much fruit in your juices if you knew like, well Elisa does one piece of fruit with lots of vegetables is okay, you wanna avoid the high sugar fruits. So because then you’re just adding more fuel to the fire. 

Elisa Gorman

In my house are green apple and blueberries and occasionally I like a frozen banana, like as an ice like ’cause I feel like I’m eating ice cream, like as a treat. So I’ll like throw some almond butter on there and then– 

Nathan Crane

You know what one of my favorite ways to make ice cream so I’ll take frozen berries, a berry mix of like blueberries, raspberries, blackberries throw in the blender and then throw in a little like almond milk in there, put on if you need it they’re already, berries are already sweet. But for people who have a really sweet tooth you could put a little stevia in there. And then on top of that you could put some almond butter or something like that, blend it up. Oh my gosh, I put a little bit of coconut in there too. Blend it out or coconut flakes on top. It’s like the best healthiest ice cream you can make on the planet. It’s so easy and fast without all the sugar, it’s awesome. 

Elisa Gorman

Well, I’ll try that. 

Nathan Crane

Yeah, it’s a good one. So what are, one point I wanted to just point out here for everyone tuning in who, anyway if anyone hasn’t noticed this yet about Elisa in what she’s doing with her life and approach to healing we haven’t heard her say, I’ve just changed my diet and I’m just doing better diet or I’m just doing more exercise. I see you posting on Instagram doing yoga and exercise and saunas and things all the time. Or we haven’t heard her just say, I’m just doing therapy or meditation. What we’ve heard you saying is I’m doing meditation, I’m doing saunas, I’m doing IV vitamin C, I’m doing yoga, I’m doing exercise, I’ve changed my diet, I’m green juicing, I’m working on reducing stress. I’m doing everything that is necessary to heal and to live a longer life and hopefully a higher quality of life. And I just wanna point that out because it is essential for anybody going through a cancer diagnosis that you approach this, as you said, one at a time but what I like to call stacking So it’s like– 

Elisa Gorman

I think that’s what I did. 

Nathan Crane

First I stack, first I do green juice in the morning. Great, I got a new habit, green juice every morning. Then maybe I’ll do intermittent fasting. So actually I’ll take a couple hours extra and not eat in the morning and then I’ll have my green juice to increase autophagy and cellular waste removal and healing and anti-inflammatory effects. Or and then I’ll add supplements. Or I can take the supplements with my green juice. Or and then all of a sudden a few months into it, you’re doing like 12 things that are supporting your healing. And that is so critical. I just wanted to point that out. It is so important. 

Elisa Gorman

It’s dedication and if the way that I can the easiest way that I can put this because people always say to me like it’s just so much work. Like if it’s easier to have somebody else tell you what to do and just do that thing, like, it just is easier. It doesn’t mean it’s always the best thing. I prefer to live in a life where I’m actually living and I get to actually like feel and touch and see and not feel sick. I never get sick knock on wood, but like I never get sick. And that’s because I’m doing all these things. And it is dedication and it’s a lot of work, but I know that I’m doing it so that I can live and I can live well. So that’s my incentive and my motivation. So I hope that other people will wanna live well, just like this, because then all this other stuff is worth it even though it feels like it’s unattainable because it’s so easy, its so easy to do this. And, but it’s so easy to do the other things too. I don’t wanna get into it too much but like with all the commercialization and like what we’re told we need to do and basically what people are telling us to do, it’s hard to get past ruffling the feathers of just doing the opposite thing. But once you do, like now, I’m like I don’t really care what you say I know how I feel. That’s what matters. I know how I feel. 

Nathan Crane

Talk about that for a minute, your previous life. Not too long ago, the late nights, the drinking, the partying, the bad eating, the high stress, all of that compared to how you’re living now. Talk about that contrast. What is your life like now compared to what it was? Forget about cancer, let’s say cancer never happened. Obviously you wouldn’t be living this way now but let’s pretend cancer never came in your life. 

Elisa Gorman

Right, I kind of feel like cancer never came into my life. I kind of live like it didn’t really come into my life. My life is less stressful, number one. But number two, I can cope with things so much better. Like I don’t need a crutch anymore but my life is still so fun and full because I still do all the things I wanna do. If I wanna have a late night, I still have a late night. I’m just not drinking all night long. Or if I wanna go see friends and do something with friends minus what’s been happening in the last year and a half or the last year with COVID, but like going and seeing people like I still do those things. I still am social, I still like to enjoy myself, I still love to travel, I still love to do all those things. So it hasn’t really changed much other than I just feel better doing all the things that I’m doing because I eliminated the things that weren’t good for me. 

Nathan Crane

You eliminated things that were making you feel bad. 

Elisa Gorman

Yeah. 

Nathan Crane

Physically, mentally, emotionally.

Elisa Gorman

Exactly. 

Nathan Crane

So what has been the biggest support for you mentally, emotionally? Has it been therapy? What kind of therapy? Has been meditation? What kind of meditation? What’s been your biggest support there? 

Elisa Gorman

Honestly, I go like change my mind a lot. It’s mostly yoga to be honest. Like I always loved yoga. Like that was something I always loved, but I didn’t do it. And now I’m doing it like five days a week. And I find that it gives me the balance and I feel so strong in my body when I’m doing it. And I do hot power yoga, which is infrared heated. And then I’m at the infrared sauna but yoga is one of my best and top. But honestly living and I did a blog post about this recently because therapy when I first started this was so great ’cause it helped me work on my inner child stuff and help me recognize the stuff that I’m still holding on to and Nathan, I’m still holding onto these things. I’m not like they still bubble up. It’s all coming up. It still all comes. But at least now I am able to like I don’t need to call my therapist right away. I can like journal about it and I can like work through it myself. And I recognize the patterns and I recognize the things that I’m making mistakes. 

So that was my favorite then. But now I noticed like I was being really regimented and hard on myself a little bit because I was like if I don’t do my vitamin C this week, I might backtrack. If I don’t get enough sleep this week, I might relapse. Like there might be something that happen. So I would think that way and then the summer something shifted for me, this past summer. And I spent time like in nature, hiking and having fun and laughing and just living and not thinking about cancer and not thinking about all my healings and going on boat rides and going kayaking and like just doing so much stuff outside and being with my girlfriends. That that was the moment for me that I realized my favorite part about my healing is actually living. That’s what it is. 

Nathan Crane

That’s beautiful.

Elisa Gorman

‘Cause it just keeps me going. I’m like I have so much to look forward to. One of my things I have like a little quick tips like PDF that people can get. But one of my things is put things on your calendar that make you excited. Like don’t be doom and gloom about your diagnosis. Start thinking ahead at the things that you want to live for and the things that excite you because that has been so helpful for me in one of my favorite things. Like I don’t have a dull moment and yes I rest. Yes I’ve been enjoying Netflix, yes I read books, yes I go to bed, I go to bed by 9:30 most nights but I definitely enjoy like this weekend, I’m going to the city, I’m in Stanford, Connecticut but I’m going to Manhattan. I got myself a hotel and I’m gonna go stay the night and I’m gonna go out for lunch with a girlfriend. And I’m like, I’m gonna be safe while I do it. And I’m just gonna rest and hang out. But just changing the scenery to, you know, getting excited. 

Nathan Crane

Its so important, right? It is so important because when you have things to live for whether it’s like you said, going on adventures or exciting things, or staying at a special place, or going on a boat or it’s to live for to be around there for your grandchildren and watch them grow up or to be able to go hike in the mountains with your kids or your grandkids and experience that beauty of nature without the pain and the sickness and all that. Or it can be simple things in life waking up. Some of the simple things for me in life, absolutely love. I love waking up, walking outside, sitting outside, reading a book, watching the sunrise, drinking some tea. Like I love those simple things. I love going to the mountains and hiking with my kids. I wanna be able to do that when I’m 90 years old. It’s like, I love those simple things in life. And those things don’t cost any money. Those things don’t require a lot of investment of time or anything other than you need to feel good enough to do those, but also doing those things often will help you to feel better. So you can feel better to do more of those things. 

Elisa Gorman

Exactly, yes, yes. 

Nathan Crane

So that’s kind of a catch 22 is often people think well, I don’t feel well enough so I don’t go hiking. Well, the reality is hiking will help you feel better. But if you’re not ready for hiking yet getting a little bit of a personal trainer or physical therapist to help your body improve a little bit of strength, so that if your knees are in pain or something like that, they’ll actually improve and then you can go do more of those things. So I love what you said schedule things on the calendar that gets you excited whether it’s a trip or an experience, whether it’s doing something, going for a bike ride. Anything that you can look forward to brings you more meaning in your life and then obviously service to others. Whether it’s volunteering, it’s getting involved at your local community or church or spiritual group, volunteering being a part of something where you’re contributing and giving back again gives you more incentive and reason for living. The more we have reason to live, the more we’re gonna do the things that help us live well. 

Elisa Gorman

Exactly. 

Nathan Crane

So where are you now? Where are you now? So it’s just a little over a couple of years, you’ve been going through this journey, you’ve been learning all this stuff, you’ve been changing everything. How is your diagnosis now compared to where it was when you first got diagnosed? 

Elisa Gorman

All right, so that is a story. So I was diagnosed with stage two, triple negative BRCA one breast cancer. And then I decided to go the holistic route the entire route. And then a few months later my team kind of collaborated and said, maybe it’s time to debulk. So let’s get a lump back to me and I was a little opposed to it. Wasn’t certain at first, meditated on it and then I’m glad that I did it for the reason that when they did remove the tumor and I have photos of it when they did remove the tumor, it was completely nephrotic when they cut into it, it was fluid poured out of it. So it was actually, the surgeon said, it looked like it was killing itself from that or healing or like cleaning house from the inside out which– 

Nathan Crane

So when was the lumpectomy how long after the diagnosis?

Elisa Gorman

November, 2019. So January, 2019 was my diagnosis and then November, 2019 was the lumpectomy. I met you at that conference. And that was in January again a year ago. And then now I did have a scan and now I’m like on the fence of what I’m gonna do next. Like if I’m even ever gonna get a scan again and this is like a total personal choice, like I feel great and that’s really what I go on. But my scans did show that there is a lymph node that is inflamed and they did a biopsy on it. And it showed that the lymph node did have remnants of the original tumor. And then there are some very teeny tiny nodules on my lungs also which is not rare for my type of diagnosis. But the best part is, is that was in March and it was a very March, May that was a very stressful time because COVID had just hit and life had kind of went upside down. I’d lost all my clients, like financially there was a lot of stress, a lot of things was happening. And that’s when I made this choice to stop focusing so much on the healing and start focusing on living. And then I lived all summer long and then sure enough, I got another scan this past November one year post-surgery and the scan showed that everything was the same, nothing had changed. So my oncologist was like, what? Like how have you been able to keep everything stable? So I’m like, I’m just living, I’m just living my life. 

Nathan Crane

That’s beautiful. 

Elisa Gorman

So everything’s stable. So, and I just got a huge extensive blood panel done. I just got the results back yesterday. And I’m like an A plus on all my levels, my tumor markers, my hemoglobin, my white and red blood cell count, like everything is in mint condition. So I think I’m just gonna focus on my blood work and kind of go from there and focus on how I feel. And instead of putting more radiation in my body and continuously getting scans every year I’m just gonna go with the flow because I find that those scans actually stress me out way more anyway. And like I said, this is a personal choice. And my prerogative is that if I’m feeling good I don’t need to go looking for something. 

Nathan Crane

Well, and you know you’re doing so many of the right things researching. You’ve been attending the conferences, you’ve been watching documentaries, you’ve been learning, learning, learning as you continue to do and then you’re implementing, implementing. So it’s like all the things you said you do and you’re actually doing and continuously learning when you know you’re on the right path like that and you don’t think like, even I it’s like I still don’t have everything figured out. And I’ve got thousands of hours of research and experience and testing on myself and interviewing the world’s leading experts. And you know and it’s like, I’m still learning, right? It’s like, I don’t have everything figured out. I’m still learning and if you approach it that way, learning, implementing, learning, implementing, learning, implementing, you don’t have to be so afraid and nervous and have to get scans all the time once you know where you’re at, but you know. 

Elisa Gorman

Don’t overthink it. Like we are guidance, honestly that’s the other part. Is the answer every time I sit down and I pray, I meditate like there’s signs all over the place. I get affirmations and reinforcements from the universe, from God, from my angels all the time. And my, I was telling you my mom just passed away from her journey with cancer. And I feel her it’s so bonkers because like she’s coming in my dreams like all the things that are happening, like it’s like every time I turn around, she’s like you’re on the right path. You’re on the right path. I keep getting all these signs, I’m on the right path. So I’m just gonna stay on my path. And hoping for something to be wrong and it has to be fixed. There’s nothing to fix. There’s just things to work on. 

Nathan Crane

Yeah, that’s beautiful. A lot of people don’t realize that even if you have radiation chemotherapy even if you have surgery, even if they remove the cancer the tumor completely from your body and they do another PET scan, for example and it shows, okay, you don’t have cancer anymore. What happens, what most people don’t realize is that, almost every single time you are still going to have circulating tumor cells. You are still going to have those tumor cells those circling cancer cells that are either in their lymphatic system, in the blood, in tissue, all over the body and they may be a small amount that they’re not detectable with most tests, or they may be a high amount but still your doctor doesn’t test for them. So that’s an important thing as you got scanned later even after lumpectomy, they said, “Okay “this cancer is basically your body’s eating it “and getting rid of it and doing it needs to do “but your body still has cancer cells in it.” And you’ve got these circling tumor cells. 

There’s a great test you can get done at some integrative oncology clinics. I know the Cancer Center For Healing does them. I think some others do them as well. The RGCC test where they can test for circulating tumor cells at much lower quantities. Just so you know so you’re like, “Okay, I’ve still got it “moving around in my body, which is fine, “I’m gonna keep doing this stuff.” I know that’s working which obviously what you’ve been doing is working. So that’s just something important for people to understand is like, “Oh, well surgery doesn’t solve everything.” Chemotherapy, radiation, it doesn’t solve everything. Even if they say the cancer is gone, your body still has those cells circulating in your body. And sometimes it’s such excessive amounts so they’re gonna form a tumor somewhere else. 

Elisa Gorman

I think that doesn’t get to the root. 

Nathan Crane

Exactly, those are treatments, yeah. 

Elisa Gorman

It’s a treatment in the moment and it just doesn’t get to the root of what is actually causing. It eliminates the problem right here and now but it doesn’t look at the bigger picture. So I find that I’m not saying I’m right I feel like I’m right for myself but I find that when we’re looking at the bigger picture and not just the problem then life starts to heal and we start to heal. 

Nathan Crane

And I love that’s what you’ve been doing and you encourage others to do is this holistic approach. It’s this mind, body, spirit, emotions, relationships, everything and that’s what it takes. And so you’re a huge inspiration to people. 

Elisa Gorman

Thank you– 

Nathan Crane

Thank you for being here on the symposium, sharing your story and your solutions. And I appreciate you and what you’re doing so much. I think you’re gonna help a lot of people out there going through similar circumstances.

Elisa Gorman

Thank you, I appreciate it. 

Nathan Crane

And I wanna thank everyone for tuning into the “Conquering Cancer Summit.” Please share this with friends and family. Together we truly can make a difference for the future of humanity in ending the cancer pandemic. Thank you and I wish you ultimate health and happiness. Be well.