How Bio-Information That is Used to Heal Can be Imprinted and Stored in Water

Harry Massey

Yeah, I was, and I’m gonna skip over how I got sick and all of that, but, well, I’ll just say it very, very briefly. But I had a few climbing accidents, got glandular fever while I was climbing, had all of this emotional stress at university and with my family, and basically, that triggered me and- well it triggered me ending up being bedridden for, it was basically, it was seven years I was bedridden and then really sort of- really pretty sick for around 10 whole years. And in that whole thing, like towards the end of that period, I was like, well, where on earth does energy come from? Because I’d already tried the medical front for about two, three years. Got absolutely nowhere. Had gone down the whole nutrition, fasting, IVs, basically, all the biochemical approaches I’d exhausted. And I sort of came to a point, I was like, well, why don’t I study where energy comes from? And that’s just a complete fluke of why we’re here now in the whole space of bioenergetics, like that’s where I first came across the term bioenergetics, which is the study in energy and living systems. And I looked on, I think it was Yahoo, ’cause Yahoo was bigger than Google. 

I’m not sure Google existed then. And I ended up being introduced to this scientist in Australia, who’d basically been mapping out the energy and information fields of the body. And I wrote to him, and he sent me back this paper on quantum biology. I didn’t understand any of it really, but I looked at it, put it up, and I called him back. I was like, “Hi, Peter, I’m Harry,” something like that. I was like, and I basically had this idea to create a home wellness system that these days is the Bioenergetic Wellness System, but I didn’t know how to do it. I was really, really sick myself. And then this scientist, he- I don’t know if he took pity on me, well, actually I’m not sure it was pity, but he basically thought to himself, well, if there’s any chance in commercializing his ideas and his science, ’cause he’d already been through sort of a whole failed venture with another party and he’d pretty much given up. 

So he was like, well, if there’s any chance of getting this off the ground ’cause he could see the- he could see what quantum biology and bioenergetics could do for society. like, “I’ve gotta get this kid better.” So he took it upon himself to get us better and he did it with, well it’s in the title of the talk, it’s basically bioinformation imprinted into structured water. These days we just call them infoceuticals, it’s basically it’s an information ceutical, and, well oh there was amazing things that happened. I should tell a few. So he first gave me an antidote to a group of what he called flaviviruses. I ended up getting this immediate fever that lasted a couple of days and then went away. And so if you get a flu, like the flu lasts for 10 days if you get a fever and it all disappears for two days that’s basically, it’s a healing response. And because that happened, I was like, oh my goodness there’s something in this. And honestly I didn’t believe him at the time but I’d spent all of these years bedridden, tried everything out. 

So it was like, well I might as well just- I really had nothing to lose. So I gave it a shot. And that was one example. Or another example, so our original energetic integrate, so it was just sort of like Chinese meridians but they’re a bit broader in effect and basically in what they affect in the body. So he gave me some of these energetic integrators and I took one of them and I got this huge boil exactly where I’d had an MMR vaccine shot as a kid. And this boil came out. I was like, God, that’s crazy. We took this thing that’s now called a stomach driver. They got this green and black under my eyes. And then my stools were just really green and it was just insane. Something called ESR, what’s now called ESR stands for Emotional Stress Release. So I was always exhausted, but I was really wired like this wired, tired feeling and just running around exhausted but stressed, well it’s not running around quite but if I had to do something I was just always in this very anxious, stressed state. And that basically calmed me down where I was just tired which was wonderful because in that state of tiredness my body could actually heal and repair. 

And after a few months I was feeling considerably, well considerably better. And the long and short of it I basically became this scientist Guinea pig, for- ’cause he would basically have all of these ideas, so to give him some background, so he was the first person to set up an acupuncture college in Australia, he set up the first acupuncture society in Australia. It became part of Melbourne university and just the politics within the university cause they didn’t like chi, they obviously were all about the chemical- chemicals controlling system. So he left because of politics but that college is still part of, well it’s still in Melbourne today. And anyway, basically he had an after he left the college and university, he just went into private research to map out the information energy of the body in a more detailed way. I said, you know- the Chinese system’s pretty detailed, but I guess in a more sort of- adding in Western science and modern biological principles. And so he really ended up just mapping out all the fuller energetic pathways within the cell, within viral theory, within different organs. 

And it did have some Chinese ideas in it, but it was very, very modernized. And from that map, he could basically record these energetic pathways that occur in the body and you could then imprint them. And there used to be this old field called radionics, It’s sort of, it’s just about around today but it’s almost killed off, but it was really, really popular a hundred years ago where they would imprint digi Basically, they would imprint, like, generally alcohol like brandy or vodka with an electronic form of homeopathy. So instead of diluting a substance down to nothing, they’re literally taking an electronic copy of the substance and imprinting it. And so he was using that type of idea, but instead of making a copy of the homeopathic he was basically originating the actual optimal pathway of how something would work properly. And let’s say I became his Guinea pig and he just made all of these different things. 

And we ended up with 2000 different effects that we tried over the first, goodness knows, I mean it’s probably the first three or four years when I met him. Now we condensed all that down to the best, and into a much more systematic thing that we use today which is only in, I say, well we just use 72 infoceuticals today, but yeah there’s a lot to unpack there. I might go to the homeopathy part because I think there’s a great history of how all of this has occurred, this idea that you can imprint information. It’s not just in water, in homeopathy they do it in a lactose pill or a sugar pill. And you’ve probably got an example from Chinese- I mean, in a way, all those herbal things it’s sort of like an energetic thing, isn’t it?

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

Yeah, they have a concept called the Jung of the formula, or direction. So it’s this synergy between a general, an emperor general and assistants, everybody lined up to move energetically in a direction versus a pulling or a pushing in opposite areas. So in a meta level, there’s a concept called the Jung of the formula, but in an energetic realm, each of the flavors have a different motion or effect in the body as well. So certain things are toning, certain things are draining, certain things are moving down, moving up, moving out. So there are the different energetics of botanics, different energetics of the acupuncture points. I think more on that resonance or patterning is really

Harry Massey

You know, when you say acupuncture points, it’s a little bit- so actually that was part of how he did this, actually. He would take the divergent- so our ETs, which stand for energetic trains basically correct different tissues within the body. He would basically make a copy of all the divergent meridians, he would, he would match them up. He would match them up to basically different viruses, fungi, and bacteria just to see what would correct the damage that’s done by a virus, bacteria, fungi in the tissue. And then you stack up all these divergent meridians and then, you know, you get this incredible effect. That’s when I was describing the fever I was basically taking one of those and they were basically made from divergent meridians. But yeah, I’m gonna, I’m gonna- I’m gonna take people back in time. 

So we’ll go, ooh, back in time! No, well we’ll go back to 220 odd years ago to, say Hahnemann, Hahnemann was the father of homeopathy. He basically realized or discovered that if he diluted something that created the symptom and he diluted enough, the body- the body would recognize that. And it’s sort of- well not sort of, it is, it’s a hormetic type effect and the body would react. The body’s healing response would react against that, and basically trigger this healing response. Now homeopathy was ridiculous- I don’t know what it was like in the states, but it was ridiculously popular in Europe with all the Royal families and throughout the population. I think it was pretty popular in the states as well. It basically got destroyed generally with, actually it was Rockefeller and standard oil were looking for other ways to monetize the chemical industry. And they’re like, ooh, pharmaceuticals, and the pharmaceutical industry was born and they set up the AMA or the medical universities.

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

Yeah.

Harry Massey

And they basically destroyed all competition which included homeopathy, radionics, herbal medicine. And anything, they could think of because they just wanted to patent drugs. So that’s sort of why these ideas got destroyed, unfortunately like a hundred years ago, they have remained, but not in mainland society. And yes, So I guess the other, I guess the next part of this story, I mean we briefly mentioned radionics before so I’m gonna skip over that, was, ooh, about, yeah, we’ll go to the 1970s. So Benveniste was this very famous French immunologist. And again, this actually happened by accident. So he had an allergen in a Petri dish. They’d removed the allergen, and then accidentally they saw that the water that remained, would basically- They also had a mar cell in this water and they saw that the mar cell reacted the same as though the allergen was there. They thought, well, that’s pretty peculiar. 

So he repeated that test over and over again, he published, so he tried to publish a paper in Nature, Nature refused to, to say this can’t be true, like “Water cannot have a memory, You can’t store information in water, impossible.” And, well actually what they said is, “Go and repeat it in 3 other labs.” So he repeated it he sent it off to three different other universities. They managed to repeat it and come back with that, with the same results, they sent it back to Nature and Nature actually had to publish it, because they’d said, well “Go and repeat it.” So they did publish it, but they put a huge note saying, “But there must be something wrong, this goes against science, we don’t believe it to be true,” but, yeah. And then what happened is this was so threatening to the majority of science and big pharma, they just basically did a hatchet job to squash it out of existence. So they sent a magician, someone who debugs magic tricks to the lab, Not a scientist, and anyway, they basically concluded or said it was a trick. 

Benveniste actually died, he died of a heart condition, heart attack, I believe 18 months later, who knows why, a little bit suspicious. And so basically no one would touch this idea that water could have a memory because they saw what happened to Benveniste, some Russians- some Russians did some research and actually saw all these other effects where they were able to record information into water and get an effect. But it’s off in Russia; It’s not in the mainstream West, so basically ignored. And then along came Luc Montagnier and, Luc Montagnier, he got a Nobel prize for discovering AIDS. And he’s another Frenchman, he’s like, more- I guess, more towards the end of his career. I mean, I met him when he was 82, so I’m guessing he would’ve been 70 plus when he discovered this. He wanted to, well because he was a virologist and he wanted to see if he could make basically a replica of a virus using information. So it’s pretty, well basically a cop- I’ll explain it in full, but basically, he got the virus in a vial. He put some coils around it, sent a current through the coils then had another vial here that actually had, it had water plus ACTH, which are basically the, sorry- the co-factors that create that create DNA, sorry the base pairs of DNA, and basically transferred the information of the virus across into this vial, And it had, as I say it had the raw material, the base pairs to create any genetic protein that he wanted. And it was able to recreate the virus to 99.98% accuracy.

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

Wow.

Harry Massey

But it’s basically the same, again, that was all published. It was poo-pooed and all that. But a little bit harder because he had a Nobel prize for AIDS. Um but actually he didn’t get any funding. He actually ended up moving to China because China did back his research. He actually died he died last year. So I don’t I don’t know what happened in china. I don’t know that part of the story. Um You know and then there was us with the scientist was talking about earlier with Peter. You know the insight that we had was like well we don’t care about allergens. We don’t care about honestly we don’t want to replicate viruses. What we want to do is send information to the body that is basically healthy. That is that represents the blueprint of how your body can be when it’s working optimally. So we just focused on how can we imprint the healthy information of the body and then obviously a consumer way. But in a way that people can just take. So we sort of spun, you could call it like the medical view or the homeopathic view on its head because like all of those in a way or in the you know that they’re getting the body to respond to. Um well you know like Boris it’s more of a hermetic response. 

We were like well why don’t we just be more direct and just say look this is this is the blueprint of how things can be, let’s just go there. So yeah, I mean and that’s all those experiments you know Peter was doing with me because actually I said that to him originally, he was actually still in that more homeopathic radion IQ thinking and I said to him like well why don’t you do everything in the positive And he’s like oh that’s a good idea and you know we went down this journey and anyway it’s a multi year journey ended up with all these infoceuticals that basically have these healing response. So I guess yeah, I don’t know where is research gone now. And so you know Peter died 10 years ago as a co founder of The NES company. He’s like he was he’s 35 4 years old older than me. And But the time like we didn’t have access to like like cell cultures labs or you know university equipment like it was all done through what we would call residents or matching. Because say we didn’t have access to all this incredible equipment that’s available universities. And quite frankly universities like 20 years ago would not they would not touch they would not touch researching this or looking at it. 

And I don’t know how long ago it was like a year and a half ago. You know we met Professor Hamel of who’s you probably know this better than me. But he’s the vice chair, I can’t remember the name of his department. He’s the vice chair of the department, his own lab at the University of San Diego. And you know we were telling about these effects and he was like well I can see what they actually do in the lab on cell cultures. So we sent him a bunch of our in circles over to the lab and I can just tell you some of the experiments. But so they took um well they were very interested in looking at mitochondrial protection. So so we have a called sale driver and they basically saw they saw an 80% protective effect against what’s called reactive oxidation species. But basically I mean the easiest way of understanding that is basically it’s protecting the mitochondria from from environmental damage or or oxidation. They did a number that is such a hot topic now.

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

Right, mitochondria mitochondria. Health, energy factories. Yeah keep going,

Harry Massey

Keep going. Sorry. Then we have yeah we have immunity. Well obviously we’re in 2022. The world was the world in 21, 2020 was absolutely obsessed with COVID. So he wanted to test immuno protective effects. Basically, they would infect lung tissue with COVID and then see if one of our infoceuticals basically would help reject it. COVID would reject. And then anyway they saw this 20% rejection rate was basically this protective effect from COVID infection. Because that’s a little bit political. We don’t sell that. But the effect is there what else they actually did with HIV. They got a bigger effect in protecting people from HIV infection actually. And what’s the other one neural stem cells to Greg and the one I’m talking about? We’re imprinting Greg’s nasal spray. So whenever you see the nasal spray on his website being imprinted with neural stem cells. Sorry not imprinted neural stem cells. I’m saying it wrong. But they see the by information it will increase the rate of growth of neural stem cells by 50% in a 10 day period. So that’s pretty cool.

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

It’s really cool. Now that research is coming out now and you may you made a jump in there and I want to make sure that we cover this piece because there’s this aspect of water that I want to make sure we do justice to as well. Because you know, you were talking about the Buenvenista research and then the Luc Montagnier research and you know, this bioinformatics imprinted in on water which you call info Sue tickles. We’re able, so what is it about water in particular here? Because they’re not that that has to do with some of these solutions. But I, you know,

Harry Massey

Water is one of its one of those things that basically the world and science and science honestly doesn’t fully fully understand. Like I mean just at a basic level, um you know, most of the world, most of the science world just thinks water has free free phases, which is, you know, um gas, a liquid and ice water has this curious property that, you know, I am uh ice when you know, when it gets to four degrees change ends up expanding, not shrinking. Which, you know, doesn’t doesn’t happen in any other transfer of liquid gas thing. Gerald Pollack, he discovered, well I say he discovered Gilbert link has another very famous said it a biologist. Like he didn’t call it structured water. He called it like he called it like the water had a gel, it could be like a gel. Pollock at Washington University took that idea further and discovered that actually it actually changes from H. 202 H. 302. The reason that’s interesting is because then water has a structure and when it has a structure basically, well it appears that that’s the medium for basically for recording information so that it can have a memory. So that’s where that comes in. Like even even Pollock who’s written all these papers books on it like undisputed. You can read his book called I think his books called for phase water. It’s very logical, very credible. But he gets a really really hard time just for that concept let alone memory of water. Because it actually under does a lot of other biological concepts which you know all the other departments, other people’s papers. It’s so political science. 

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

Science does not like when you question what are considered basic truths which they’re questioning the structure of the cell which is everything else is predicated on top of that. So you know, and they make a very logical like you say um and well researched uh hypothesis and outcome on it and and then you know, you’re taking these remedies and building on top of that and actually delivering information into the body for the body to remember this is health and it’s drawing the body back into a healthful residence or patterning rather than what we’ve been used to is like pushing or having a reaction to create a response. This is more remembering almost of the of what, 

Harry Massey

You know, now we’re going down that residence rabbit holes. I think it’s a good thing, you know, it really comes down to how like what reality is in the first phase. So, you know, at a very, at a deeper level. You know, reality is just, well, it’s really information structured energy or you know, it’s one way of putting it. Or you know, you could quote Einstein, Einstein says E equals M C squared is basically, he’s basically saying um energy is the equivalent of matter. Um you know, you can go down like holographic universe or like boat, like bone type ideas, but you know, the um you know, which is sort of going down a consciousness route, but I think it’s worth going down there. But basically, you know, your reality, including your biology is a manifestation like of your fields of your information, of your, you know, of your thoughts and then all of the reality around you becomes a construct of that. That’s a it’s a deep, you know, it’s a deep and hard idea or in spiritual, you know, in all different religions, you know, they have this concept of, you know, we are all one. Um they’re basically saying, we are all interconnected the reason we’re all interconnected is because ultimately we are just we just come out of this field of information and energy. So like, and so like if you change the information and energy of you, it does, it basically just manifests out in your in your tissue and your biology out in your physical reality. And I don’t I mean, we’re going we’re going down and.. 

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

I love I love that we got there, but we’ll contain it will contain it. Here are our title is how bio information is used to heal can be imprinted and stored in water. And I think it it’s fascinating that we can wind up in a whole discussion of what is reality and consciousness because..

Harry Massey

The reason, as I say, the reason I’m mentioning it is because so from a science point of view, people, you know, people get upset because um, you know, water and bulk water, all the molecules are moving and changing and and all the rest of it’s like, well, aren’t you destroying the information or that. Um but the, you know, the reason, I think because there’s a, the thing behind any actual liquid or molecule is actually space. Um and you know, in the, in the end, it’s like information and energy in space and oh, it is deep. It is deep. But basically, you know, all physical matter and reality are really coming out of distortions of space because there isn’t really anything, there’s really nothing here at all. So that and the reason I’m saying this is because some of these ideas, it’s like, you don’t necessarily like if you try and understand like, oh, well, how is this water doing this mechanically or is it like mechanically trying to do something in the body yourself? Well, um you know, it’s it’s a rabbit hole in it. And it’s why some of these ideas and science, you know, scientists scratch, scratch their, scratch their heads. But really it’s a really it’s because information and energy change and manipulate space, which is actually what’s creating this curiosity. I know I’m still down around the whole,

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

But that was a really good wrap up actually. That’s but I like how that’s exactly where we wind up when we start talking about bioinformatics programmed into water into healing discussion because it is ultimately that is the ultimate goal of in an ordered whole healthy, like that’s the space that all of this has come out of. And it then gets.. 

Harry Massey

I mean, it’s why it’s why someone, you know, I was someone who is, you know, 10, 10 years or whatever, 7 to 10 years. But um bedrooms seriously ill, you can basically change your state and end up and end up healthy or like, you know, we made this film 12 or 14 years ago now called The Living Matrix, there’s some pretty insane stories in there. But yes, there’s a story of a healer, in fact, it was the founder of no genetic science, he’s the second person to land on the moon as Edgar Mitchell. He had kidney cancer, a distance healer, like not in person at a distance heal kidney cancer disappears. Like, okay, how is that? You know, that’s not you don’t need water physical, like, it’s not a physical thing. It’s it’s because the energy and information was changed and it literally just changes the manifestation of reality. Um or like we filmed this boy with cerebral palsy who couldn’t open his hands, couldn’t walk. Um again, it was actually an energy healing that was done on stage and then he was able to walk, like, walk off. We interviewed the practitioner who said that we weren’t sure. But then, um, but then we basically ran out the family in Greece and then we flew out to Greece, met like, met some of the doctors. Anyway, basically the story was true, innit capitated and these things are impossible if you’ve got a Newtonian mind, but you know, if you if you have a quantum mind, it’s all these things are possible. And I, I’ve well, I’ve experienced it myself and obviously with, you know, with witnessed with many, many other people.

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

Yeah, I love it, thank you for wrapping it up into that spot. That’s a perfect spot to bring this one, bring this train into the station. Um, and you know, we’ve got now we’ve got science coming out that are showing reactions in the lab, We’ve got the testimonials and actually evidence in clinical encounters of showing in the real world exposures. And I think you really, you did wrap it up there in the new tone into quantum component is, you know, really opening our hearts, our minds into that possibility. Um really is what we’re looking at. 

Harry Massey

When your mind is closed. It’s not a possibility. That’s absolutely true. Your minds open. These things can happen.

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

Harry Massey, thank you so much.

Harry Massey

You know, one more thing.

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

Sure. 

Harry Massey

Just people are probably wondering where or how you can try an infoceutical, and the answer that is pretty simple. Um So you could, see Greg, is like one of his coaches at B.vital that,,, 

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

bevitalpc.com. 

Harry Massey

Okay. Be vital dot p. I’ll shut up, I’ll get the domain name wrong. You can also go to like NEShealth.com if you want to train to be a coach or practitioner just go to neshealth.com. And there’s also like listed all of our practitioners. So you can take your choice of who you go to to try it out an infoceutical.

Greg Eckel, ND, LAc

Love it. Thank you, Harry Massey.

Harry Massey

Perfect.