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Gregory Eckel has spent the last 20 years developing and refining his unique approach to chronic neurological conditions. In addition to his experience in clinical practice using a combination of Naturopathic and Chinese Medicine, he has a deep personal connection with chronic neurological disease since his wife Sarieah passed of... Read More
Dr. Gladden began his career as an interventional cardiologist in Dallas TX. He has passion was to bring cutting-edge cardiology services to people in outlying areas. To that end, he built my own heart group and eventually had 10 offices and 12 physicians servicing numerous communities in north Texas and... Read More
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Welcome back, everybody, to the Bioenergetics Summit. I am your host, Dr. Greg Eckel. I have my esteemed guest and colleague, Dr. Jeffrey Gladden, MD, FACC, is the founder and CEO and visionary of Gladden Longevity. Dr. Gladden’s consuming passion is to answer the following questions for himself and mankind. How do we make 100 the new 30? How do we live well beyond 120 years old? How good can we be? How fit? How strong? How mentally sharp? How relationally connected? And how spiritually centered? And for how many years and decades can we carry this forward? Dr. Gladden, welcome aboard.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Oh, thanks Greg. Good to see you again, man. Good to be here.
Dr. Greg Eckel
Ah, indeed. I love your questions and I just love being around you for the questions that you ask, because we definitely get better answers. Today’s topic is, “How to Supercharge Your Energy by Combining NES Products “With Other Novel Biomedical Interventions.” And this supercharging your energy, I think with the questions that you’re asking, this is gonna be an awesome discussion. I’m really looking forward to it. And the first pressing one I have for you, because you’re a conventionally trained cardiologist, how did you leave cardiology? Because you’ve set up hospitals, you’ve developed devices, and you’ve left that somewhat to pursue optimizing this life energy, longevity, health and performance optimization.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Yeah, that’s right. No, I think it is a little bit of an interesting story, but I’ll keep it a little bit short at the same time. I mean, what happened to me actually was I got sick in my 50’s, and I was putting on weight, I had brain fog, I was fatigued, I was having trouble getting out of bed. I had a pretty young family. I’ve always been very athletic. I played soccer and liked to mountain bike and basketball and things like that, snowboard, et cetera. And I got to a point where it was starting to feel like I couldn’t keep up with my kids anymore. And I went in and got tested by one of my colleagues and they ran all the usual tests and it came back and said, “You know, everything checks out okay. “I think you’re just getting older. “And why don’t you take an antidepressant?” And it was such an existential moment for me. It was like, “I can’t believe that it’s just gonna be “downhill from here, I can’t believe that “I’m gonna feel fatigued and tired and have brain fog.” And my father died with dementia at age 89, so I’m like, “This is not a pretty glide slope that I’m on here.”
Dr. Greg Eckel
Yeah.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
So that’s when I threw myself into functional medicine, age management medicine, integrative medicine basically, and went out and did certifications, et cetera. And then after 2 1/2 years, I was able to crack the code for myself as to what was going on. So when I did that and I had subclinical hypothyroidism, I was hormonally depleted, and my methylation cycle wasn’t working properly so I would get depressed periodically and I would have brain fog ’cause I wasn’t making neurotransmitters efficiently. Once I kinda cracked the code on that and started feeling really good again, the first question I asked was, “Geez, if I can feel this good now, “I wonder how good I can be?” And I also realized that I’d been practicing sick care and not healthcare. And I realized that from now on, I actually wanted to practice healthcare. So I left behind my cardiology group that I’d built and the heart hospital I’d founded and all the other things, and I basically kind of base jumped into an area where I had no idea how to get paid and I didn’t get the paycheck for like 4 1/2 years trying to figure out how to get paid. But nonetheless, I was so passionate about doing true healthcare, if you will, health optimization, longevity optimization. So that was really the nidus from which Gladden Longevity came from. And now we’re just doing extraordinary things and so we’re super excited about all that.
Dr. Greg Eckel
That is awesome. Now I have to ask you. Your colleagues and community at that time, did they just look at you like you lost your rocker?
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Yeah, yeah they did. They didn’t get it. They couldn’t understand it. It was like, “Well, what happened to him?” You know? And I didn’t really bother to tell them about what I was doing either, because I knew they wouldn’t get it. One of the really sad things is that as professionals, we go to good schools, we get our degrees, we get trained up and we kind of get married to a particular set of answers, and that becomes Canon Law, so to speak, and anything else is blasphemy. And we basically get married to those answers and then we’re in a position where that’s really all we do and all we know. And I came to understand that it was only when I started asking different questions that I found the answers for myself. And so from therein on, I thought, “You know what? “Every answer I ever come across, “I’m never gonna get married to it. “I’m only gonna be married to the questions.” And that’s been transformative. I mean, it continues. Growth, stimulation, curiosity, I think it also keeps us very young.
Dr. Greg Eckel
Yeah, I totally agree and I super appreciate that about you, and I love the questions that you ask. So that’s why inviting you on to the Bioenergetics Summit, I love it. So okay, you get into functional medicine, age management, longevity, health optimization. How did you get into bioenergetic inframationals, the NES products, along those lines?
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Yeah. I think I was originally exposed to them probably four or five years ago. I was at a conference and they had a booth there and I was actually with another company talking about an exercise piece of equipment that I was very fond of. They’d asked me to come there and speak with people about it. I’d done some research on it, some things like that. It was Vasper Systems and really, really a kind of a cool piece of equipment. I own three of them currently. That being said, NES was across the hall and I went over there and got tested and I had questions. Is this reproducible? Is it whatever? And they said, “Well, not really. “We’re not sure, blah, blah, blah.” And it’s like, “But we think you should take these things.” And I’m like, “Well, I don’t know. “It seems a little bit hokey to me.”
So anyway, so I just kind of blew it off. And then a couple years ago we were- Well, actually even about a year ago, we were at Da Vinci in Boston and the NES people were there again. And this time they ran another scan on me and said, “Well, those following recommendations.” I had sort of the same questions. And they said, “Well, why don’t you just try a couple of these things?” And Harry was there and said, “Why don’t you try a couple of these?” And I was like, “Okay, sure. I’m game for trying anything.” So I think he gave me energy and maybe one other one, maybe immune or something like that. I think there was some C0V!D running around. And I took four drops of the energy and it was like, “Oh my gosh, what just happened?” I mean, it was crazy. It’s like I could feel all this stuff going on in my body and I’m pretty attuned, you know?
Dr. Greg Eckel
Yeah.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
I mean, the field that I work in, I’m pretty attuned to what’s happening. But I couldn’t really account for it. And I thought, “Wow, that’s really fascinating. “I think I’m gonna have to cut it back down “to just one drop, it’s so powerful.” And so that’s what I did. I just took one drop of each. And even with that, I had this really strong sensation from it and that really kind of convinced me that something was really happening here. But so then I’d really been skeptical and maybe other people in the audience are skeptical as well, I’m not sure, but I was clearly a skeptic. And then when I started to see some of the research and some of the things out of the University of California, San Diego and things like that, I started to realize that, no, there’s really something happening here. And it kind of dovetailed in with some other energy work that I was doing, kind of more on the metaphysical level, if you will, not so much in chemical space. And so all of it started to dovetail together and it started to make sense.
Dr. Greg Eckel
I love it. So out of personal experience, I mean, I think it always is helpful to actually feel something and notice it rather than well-wishing. Like we wanna move the needle in the real world for folks. So you’ve brought this in. What are you noticing with working with your clients and patients? And maybe a little bit bigger framework as well because you have developed from your questions a really sophisticated and simple system, right? I mean, it’s basically boiled things down to an essence.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Well, there’s an element of that, for sure. I think we are very comprehensive in our approach, right?
Dr. Greg Eckel
Yes.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
And so we’re not just married to the energetics. We’re looking at a human being through as many different lenses as we can because we think that it’s really, we’re all kind of feeling the elephant and if you can look at it from more angles, you can actually start to see the elephant, if you will.
Dr. Greg Eckel
Sure.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
And so in our world, we’re doing a lot of genetics, nutrigenomics, now we’re doing a lot of transcriptomics to look at how DNA’s actually expressed. We’re doing some amazing things with regards to the entire aging process. We’re involved with very small embryonic-like stem cells, as you are. We’re doing things with plasmapheresis, young plasma, hormone optimization, senolytics. Just on and on and on. I mean, we’re really all-in on making hundreds of new 30. So the question becomes, “Well, how do the energetics sort fit into a practice “that’s really kind of all-in on everything?” And what we’ve found is that it’s really a nice addition, that people really do respond to them. If we wanna help them with their sleep and we’re using sleep or nighttime or a combination of that, they’re actually sleeping better. For energy, I still use the energy all the time before I go for a run or get on a Vasper session or do a mountain bike session. And I feel it within a matter of seconds, right?
So I think we’ve been using it really in that regard and we’re also doing the NES testing on people and then prescribing the prescribed intraceuticals, if you will. And some of that we’re taking on a bit of faith because we don’t always feel those per se, like kidney or liver or whatever. But what we are finding is that when we do the NES scan, it’s not the first thing we do so we’ll have some other test results back. We’re finding that the NES scan will actually marry up many times to exactly what the issues are that we’re picking up with other tests as well. So it’s kind of this nice interlacing, if you will, of approaches. And we feel like the NES plays sort of a foundational role in all of that.
Dr. Greg Eckel
That’s awesome. The same thing, similar pathway with the recent pandemic, et cetera, of how do we reach people in their homes. And now that people are coming back in with the compliment of pulse taking, et cetera, it really is uncanny how it correlates so well. So it’s nice to hear that confirmation too from such an investigator such as yourself. So that’s awesome. Now you have a system, we were talking about it before coming on and maybe you wanna share that now of around you’ve got some hallmarks or drivers that age us or steal basically our energy from us. So this is the graphic of areas that rob us of energy for our life. So I’m gonna hand that over to you.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Yeah. So in our way, in our world and the way we think about it, we’re a mosaic of ages. We have a chronological age and then people go out and they get a test done and they say, “Well, my biological age is this,” right? Well, we say that’s interesting but it’s actually not accurate. Because we really are a mosaic of many different ages. We have a cardiac age, we have a blood vessel age, we have a liver age, a kidney age, a brain age. We have an epigenetic age, a telomeric age. We’re many different ages, quite honestly. And really when you look at it, the way we think about it is that from a risk perspective, you’re only as young as your oldest age, right?
Dr. Greg Eckel
Right.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
And so it’s important to know where does the rubber hit the road here? And so we measure right now currently about 60 different ages for people and we’re about to measure hundreds with the whole transcriptomics that we’re working into. And so we’ve created circles that basically correlate to really optimizing everything. So we have four circles. One is a life energy circle. The next one is longevity. The next one is health. And the next one is performance. And we really feel like aging is an exponential process and so a linear response of get healthy to an exponential process is never gonna work. So get healthy is important and critical, but it’s an inadequate response to the real game we’re playing. So it’s really important in our mind to actually address all four circles. And we think too many practices make the mistake of just focusing on the biochemical or the health or the longevity or whatever. And we’ve found that the life energy circle is really the circle that binds them all, if you will. Kind of like “The Lord of the Rings.” And so in the life energy circle, there are different components that are on here.
The first one is having a growth mindset. And essentially what that means to us is being married to the questions instead of the current answers. Because the questions that we ask are actually infinitely more powerful the answers we currently have. And I think people stay young when they continue to ask questions, as opposed to getting married to their answers. You see that happen all the time. People settle into, “Well, this is what I do. “This is how I think. “This is what I believe. “This is what it is. Blah, blah, blah.” And I think it really degrades people’s energy to stay young. And then the next one is optimizing mental health, right? There’s so much anxiety, depression, PTSD, et cetera, and we know that those things age us dramatically. And when you think about it, really all of health in many respects can come down to reprogramming the software that’s running in our brain.
Because when we don’t have the life energy circle optimized, and let’s say we have an eating disorder because of it, or we have an addictive disorder or we’re eating food for comfort or we’re drinking alcohol to kill the pain, whatever it is in the mental health side, we’re really kind of aging ourselves. And it doesn’t matter how much biochemistry you throw at somebody, how many intraceuticals you throw at somebody, all that self-sabotaging behavior is ultimately gonna still sort of crash the boat, right? So I think this is critical. And then feeling loved. I find that so many people actually don’t feel loved. They don’t feel unconditional love for themselves. They still kind of beat themselves up. And one of the things for me was that when my first son was born, I kind of felt unconditional love for the first time in my life. And I think you can relate to that. You felt unconditional love in your life. But I never got that as a kid and many of us didn’t. But being able to go back and actually give that to myself, that same unconditional love, that’s foundational. We actually need to feel that deep love. And then optimizing relational health. This is critical. And what I’ve come to discover is that language is actually a very poor form of communication.
Dr. Greg Eckel
Yes.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
The reason I say that is that real communication would be if you and I, Greg, and if we were the audience, could communicate telepathically, right? That we could just understand their questions, everything they’re thinking, the whole gestalt, the emotional elements of it, and they can understand what we’re bringing forward. That would be communication. And yet we’re here dribbling words out, trying to paint a picture in their minds of what we’re thinking. And as they ask questions, they’re trying to paint a picture in our minds of what they’re thinking. And certainly in relationships, relationships are handicapped by this because there’s so much misinterpretation of what’s said and it leads to so much conflict. And so understanding that language is really an inherently limited form of communication gives you a new appreciation for what it is to work with your partner, with your loved ones. It’s like, “Oh, tell me more about that. “I wanna understand that more. “Is this really what you said? “Is that really all that’s here “or is there something else you wanna say?” Because you come to understand that the language is just really the tip of the iceberg. And I think that’s really important for relationships. The other thing is that I never really understood what forgiveness was. And when somebody would say, “Well, I forgive you.” Or I say to them, “I forgive you.” I don’t know. I wouldn’t really feel anything. It’s like, I don’t know what just happened, right?
Dr. Greg Eckel
Mmm.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
But all I’ve come to understand energetically that forgiveness, when you really are in simpatico with somebody, there’s just this free flow of love between you and the other person, right? There’s love flowing from, let’s say from me to you as friends on this call, if there’s love flowing back, I’m receiving that. It’s there’s unobstructed, right?
Dr. Greg Eckel
Yeah.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
And yet when there’s an estrangement of some sort, we put this barrier up and that flow of love is blocked and that takes psychic energy to pull that in place, right? And it’s actually damaging us to hold that barrier up. And when you let it back down, taking the barrier down, that’s actually forgiveness, right? You remove the barrier and you reestablish the free flow of love, both to that person and receiving it from them. Doesn’t mean you have to call them up and go to lunch, if it’s your ex or whatever else, but you just no longer have that restriction or that barrier, so to speak. And to me, that’s actually really forgiveness and it lowers the stress inside the biological system dramatically.
And that’s a very, very healthy thing. We’re not beating ourselves up with resentments and grudges and things like that that we’re holding, right? And I think the other thing is that in relationships, knowing and being known, loving and being loved, those are really critical elements too. To me, that’s my definition of Heaven. And the closer we can establish that in a relationship, the more we feel known and understood and loved and the more we can do that for the other person. That’s really the goal in a relationship. So when you understand those things about relationships, it really helps you optimize them and you find that your stress goes down, anxiety goes down, your joy goes up. And the next thing you know, your health is dramatically improved and this is all energetically driven.
Dr. Greg Eckel
Yeah.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Right. And then there’s feeling joy, right? I think joy is a great north star. So if I’m not feeling joy doing something, I question whether I should do it. Or am I bringing something to it that’s not allowing me to feel joy? And if I’m not, then I try to do something to correct that. And then I think being spiritually optimized, we’re connected to something bigger than ourselves. We have a bigger sense of why we’re here and you tap into that. And then optimizing wisdom is important. Making decisions that aren’t just good for us, but good for me, good for you, good for our communities, good for the planet. Then we’re making wise decisions. And you feel stress go down then too when you’re not trying to take from somebody else, but you’re trying to create something that’s good for everybody. The win, win, win, win kind of scenario. And then feeling safe. This is a massive one. I find that most people don’t feel safe. And the reason I think when you think about it, all anxiety and all fear is foundationally driven by not feeling safe. So as you sort of feel into that, if you feel safe, you actually feel confident.
Everybody talks about, “Well, you need to be more confident.” Well, how am I gonna do that? You’re gonna feel confident if you enable yourself to feel safe. So just like you can give yourself unconditional love, you can go back in and give yourself safety as well. And when you feel safe, you’re no longer kind of on tilt, leaning into these situations and you actually can bring all your gifts forward. And I think that energetically is fantastic because that’s contagious. When you bring love, when you bring safety, you can bring safety to other people, you can bring love to other people. If I walk into a room and I feel safe, I can actually communicate safety to other people in the room. And all of a sudden, they start to feel safe. And this is energetic medicine on another level. This is on the metaphysical level.
But it really dovetails into the whole concept of how do we really answer these bigger questions? How do we really answer the question, how good can we be? And I think it’s a really critical thing to do. And then this feeling energetic resonance with the universe, this bigger sense of purpose, I think is also critical. Where you really feel aligned with a greater sense of why you’re here, what you’re doing, and that sort of thing. So this isn’t exactly where NES is, but it all dovetails together. It’s another form of energetics that when you layer this into what NES is doing, what traditional medicine is doing, what we’re doing with, say, pulse shockwave therapy or other forms of treatment, you start to put all these things together, it’s that mosaic that gets woven together. I think this is how optimal health really occurs.
Dr. Greg Eckel
I love it, Jeff. This is the why. And I love it that you have come out of cardiology and you’re talking the energetics of the heart, right? Chinese medicine is set up as the emperor, the empress, and you start this on the life energy as being the foundation for all of the other myriad ways that you evaluate and put together that mosaic of health. Do you feel- I’m wondering, so I’m gonna put you on spot. Do you feel like this is why cardiovascular disease is the number one killer is this component? Is there a piece? Have you made that connection at all?
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Oh, I think this contributes dramatically, quite honestly. There’s a lot of data in the cardiology literature that’s really quite interesting around depression. Like when people have a cardiac event, whether it’s a surgery or a heart attack, or even atrial fibrillation and a cardioversion, that kind of thing, it’s a coming to grips with your own mortality moment and for many people that’s very depressing. And so the degree of people, the number of people that are depressed following a cardiac event is quite high. And yet we know that the outcomes are dramatically better for people that are not depressed. We also know that they’re dramatically better for people that have a sense of faith and spirituality and have people praying for them or sending them positive energy or whatever modality they’re working with. But that sense of community and connection, those people do much better. They recover, they restore. So we know that the biochemistry is really more like a bobber on the surface that shows us what’s happening below the surface. And I think this is really what’s below the surface is really the energetics of what we’re talking about here.
Dr. Greg Eckel
Yeah, I so agree. I also wanna explore this concept of feeling safe with the levels of trauma, adverse childhood events, et cetera. How do we establish that for people? Or how could our viewers and listeners establish that for themselves? You said, “One could carry safety into a room “and around them and provide that kind of shelter “or that feeling of safety.” How else can we think about that?
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Yeah. So for me, it came up with… The way I think of it, we’ve all run a gauntlet, right? Everybody’s run a gauntlet. I don’t know a single person I’ve ever met that hasn’t run a gauntlet. And in that, we all are living in reaction to the traumas and the stresses that we went through. And I won’t recount everything in my own gauntlet here, but I thought I had an issue with money about something with money, and I was at a meeting and I was sitting with some people, it was kind of a spiritual meeting and also involved with some neurofeedback. It was a really interesting weekend. There were just three of us there. And so I was talking about this with a woman, Amy, and I said, “I think I have an issue around money “based on things that happened when I was a kid “and in my 20s.” And she was listening to me and she said, “You know, it actually has nothing to do with money. “This for you has everything to do with safety. “You just don’t feel safe. You don’t really feel safe.” And then she related it to the first chakra, right? And so it was kinda like, “You don’t feel safe.” And so I went to bed that night thinking about it and I thought, “If I can give myself, “if I can reach down to little Jeff, “my little three year old self, “and give him unconditional love “just like I would for my son, “why don’t I reach down and give him safety too? “Why don’t I give little Jeff safety? “No, I’m here. You’re gonna be safe. “I’m gonna take care of you.” And with that, it was kind of transformative. And now I do a thing called a safety check where if I walk into a situation, I can measure whether I feel safe or not by whether or not there’s any reactivity to it.
If I feel any reaction, any negative reaction or whatever, then I just ask myself, “Are you feeling safe?” And I say, “No, I’m not feeling safe about something here.” So then it’s like, “Well, okay, “reach down and give yourself safety.” And it’s like, “Oh, I’m gonna reach down.” As a parent, and I think many parents can relate to this, you’re just gonna scoop your kid up, right? Just whatever they did, skin their knee, whatever, you’re gonna scoop them up, right? You’re gonna hold them, love them, give them that love, that safety. And I scoop myself up and do that. And it’s like, “No, I’m actually safe,” right? And I think it’s so critical because there’s nothing external to us that can ever give us safety. There’s no amount of money, there’s no amount of degrees, family, pedigree, houses, cars, none of that.
All of that is nothing, right? None of that will ever give people safety. And a safety like love is actually an inside job. It’s something that we have to do for ourselves. And when you think about it, people in Auschwitz, everything was stripped away and yet there were people there that had the ability to give themselves a sense of safety, even in the face of losing everything, even in the face of knowing that death was around the corner. And they were actually there and able to help other people. They were looking after other prisoners, they were sharing things and doing things and trying to help and take care of people, right? And those people had given themselves safety, right? And when we do that, we’re able to be our best selves in whatever circumstances we find ourselves. And to me, that’s incredibly powerful, incredibly powerful.
Dr. Greg Eckel
So that is, that’s phenomenal and thank you for that. The components of you really do some cutting-edge therapeutics and you put some- What novel things are you combining in with the NES products to enhance outcomes even further?
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
We’re doing things like plasmapheresis where we’re removing plasma from people and then we can substitute albumin in for it. There’s nice data based on the parabiosis experiments showing that if you remove old plasma, that it has the ability to basically activate stem cells across all three germ layers and actually help to make people youthful again. We’re also combining that by doing plasmapheresis with young plasma, something we can do here in Texas. And that’s pretty interesting. Then we’re doing that in combination with very small embryonic-like stem cells, where we will draw the PRP fraction of the blood prior to the plasmapheresis and then put in the young plasma and then put the B cells back in. So now you’re putting your Olympic swimmers into a clean swimming pool where they can do their best work. And so things like that, novel things like that. We’re combining numerous peptides and other therapies, pulse shockwave therapy for joints and transcranial magnetic stimulation to heal people’s brains, and all kinds of fascinating things. So everything we do is a custom-fit to the individual. But what we’ve found is that in order to actually get it right, it’s a symphonic approach, right? It’s not just, “Here’s something to do, let’s do it.” It’s really how you sequence time and put these things together that really seems to make the magic.
Dr. Greg Eckel
Lovely. And let’s get you off of that shared screen spot. And how about, I know you’re big, big on data collection. And what kind of data examples do you have and progress that you’ve seen your clients and patients make?
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Well, lots of progress. I mean, tremendous progress. We are measuring a mosaic of ages, right? So we see people go back 10 years, 15 years, 20 years. Some of my own. Post-C0V!D, my telomeres were actually shortened. I don’t know if people comprehend that exactly, but people with short telomeres fared poorly with C0V!D and people that got C0V!D and even the vaccine, it shortens your telomeres. So my telomeres had always been longer than my chronological age. Now I was five years older than my chronological age. So we have access to a telomere product that can re-lengthen telomeres. We’re the only people in the world that have it. I’m not the inventor but I’m bringing it forward with the inventor. And now my telomeres, after using it for about six months, and you don’t take it every day, but my telomeres were excellent for somebody that was 35 years old.
Dr. Greg Eckel
Wow.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
So I was born in 1954. And I just tested them again in June and they were holding at the same place, right? So those kinds of things. VO2 max-
Dr. Greg Eckel
That feels pretty good?
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Yeah. It feels pretty good, right? DNA methylation ages that are decades lower than your chronological age, things like that. My glycan age is 27. We’re able to improve all those things for people. So yeah, it’s super fun. People’s brains get razor sharp. I was on the phone with a guy yesterday saying, “I don’t know what’s happening, “but all of a sudden my brain is so sharp. “I’m carrying on all these conversations “that I used to struggle with before.” And I’m like, “Well, that’s great.” The stuff was working, right?
Dr. Greg Eckel
That’s awesome.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Yeah.
Dr. Greg Eckel
Yeah. In the real world.
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
In the real world.
Dr. Greg Eckel
Yeah. Well, in closing, I love to give folks an action step or put them into action. And any other wisdom that you’d like to share?
Jeffrey R. Gladden, MD, FACC
Well, I think that people are always looking for something outside themselves to sort save the day. And I would just encourage people to look inside and take a look at, do you love yourself? Do you really feel safe? Do you have a growth mindset? Are you married to your questions instead of your current answers? I would work on those areas because what you’ll find is you’ll tee up your mental space, which then tees up your biological space to actually be receptive to things like the NES products or hormone optimization, or whatever else you may be involved with. And I think that’s really sort of- For me, that’s really kind of the starting place. That’s the energetic that everything else kind of sits upon.
Dr. Greg Eckel
Ah, thank you, Dr. Jeffrey Gladden. Thanks for bringing it to the Bioenergetics Summit.
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