Light is the Most Scientific Yet Underprescribed Healing Tool

Patrick Porter, PhD 

I’m happy to be here. Thank you.

Cheng Ruan, MD

You know, this this thing behind brain health is something that I’ve been trying to uncover for a very long time for myself because of my own issues with brain health with concussions and tremors and all this stuff like that. And so my journey has taken many, many years and discovered a lot of different things. Um but for those of you who are watching at home or those people who are listening at home, I’m actually holding up the brain tap device that my daughters,both my older daughters are obsessed with right now. I have to snatch this from the older one because she was about to start a brain tap session. So we’re actually gonna talk about um what this actually is here with Dr. Porter. And so you know, I kind of give you credentials already in the introduction, but I want to know like from a personal standpoint like how did you, how did you even like start developing this stuff like decades ago? 

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Yeah, well it started with my dad being a seminar leader and then something called the civil method and they use sound and Jose Silva was out of Laredo Texas and he created a way to use, he called it the silver sound and it would put people into an alpha state which is we call alpha, the neutral to the brain. So most people are either charging ahead or they’re passed out. They don’t that neutral.So some people call it meditation relaxation or prayer or something like that. So what I was experimenting with that and then I just loved it and then things because my my job is as a psychologist was to help people relax and then help them with their problems.I couldn’t get people out of their nervous system state of you know the sympathetic overload. And so I was actually at a conference in Vegas and I was introduced to a technology that was about the size of a bread box. And it was called the cells the cells machine S. I. L. S. It was a sin input learning system and it was all hand delivered. This was before neurofeedback, this was in 86. So we couldn’t measure the brain like we can I mean some people could but it was very expensive technology so we did skin temperature, respiration, heartbeat and what we found was that we could they introduced light to the equation. So we were trying to get people to that alpha state like like in Silva and what we found out was a candle actually flickers at 10 hertz frequency. So I always look at uh yeah I always look at ancient traditions and and think how can I make modern technology out of it because it must have worked. 

It’s made you know people meditate the candles for 10,000 years. You know so we have we have this record of doing it. So we started doing it and then we found out hey we could move the brain once we had something called the mind mirror which was an advanced technology at the time. They say it’s still available today as a software system, but it basically could measure if they were in their right brain and the left brain. And that’s when we started to realize that people’s brain was out of coherence, which means the two hemispheres weren’t communicating. So with that, I was hired by a company. It’s a long story too long for here. But I got hired in Scottsdale because the founder of that company actually died and they didn’t know what to do with their technology and I was so in love with it. I said, just come into the, come into my office in Scottsdale and I’ll look at it. I had an undergraduate degree in electronics. 

So I said, we can reverse engineer this and we found out we could, and we had to build something new, but based on the technology of that, we invented the very first EMC square, which was just like goggles and earphones and then in 2014 if we fast forward all the things I did between them in 2014, I decided, wow, I know I was living in Silicon Valley and wasn’t really doing much for the last seven years other than out speaking and and touring. No, no equipment. I didn’t got out of the equipment business, but nobody was advancing the technology. So I sat down and I said, if I could build a new piece of equipment, what would it be? And that’s when I started getting into frequencies. And so the ear lights that you have, like people might, they always question why do you have ear lights? Well, we have meridians in our body that the Chinese have talked about forever, you know, in,

you know,

Cheng Ruan, MD

we just pre qualified real quick. So what Dr. was talking about is on this device that I’m actually holding up within the actual earphones, there are lights that are admitted from the earphones that goes into the ear. And I was a little shocked at first, I’m like, what is this? And so yeah, go ahead. That’s one of the 

Patrick Porter, PhD 

so let me kind of explain that a little bit deeper now that you’ve shown it when every cell of your body has something called a chroma form, which means it’s a little battery that charges up with light sound and vibration. And of course also when we eat food, but they’re mostly to tell ourselves what to do because through bio for take exchange, we are body modulates like if we don’t get to bed before 10 o’clock or two o’clock in the morning, we’re not gonna make as much melatonin, you know, so that’s all So what we did is we looked at what could we do? So those lights are actually broadcasting different frequencies. There’s a guy doctor knows who came up with your ideology and that sounds a little weird, but they found out that in this something he didn’t invent, he basically looked at the literature in the Chinese literature and you look at if you go there and look at their ideology, you’ll see an ear. And it has all these points out that say press here. If you want to help the liver press here. So they have these acupuncture points. So we don’t do the acupuncture. What we do is we’re doing it through light. So we’re broadcasting that light, It’s pulsating light and it’s actually every two minutes changing to a new frequency. And so there’s seven frequency realized in the body that when those are in balance, the nervous system is in balance. 

So like one just just go through 11 tells the sympathetic system that our fight or flight to turn off and turns out our parasympathetic. And we did that when we started doing research with autistic kids, they couldn’t understand the same way. So then, but then I said, well if it works for them, let’s use it for everyone. And and then we put the lights in the visor and a lot of people go, why do we have lights in the visor? Well, Patek information in the eyes when your eyes are open and you’re looking we’ve all been to a convention or to a church and we couldn’t hear the pastor or the speaker. But then we moved our attention and as soon as we saw a line of sight with that person, we started to hear them. That’s because our ears actually are hearing 25,000 pieces of information every second and when somebody says they can’t hear very well really what they’re saying is I don’t filter very well because the brain is filtering out those 25,000 pieces of information. You know, for instance, if you and I were having dinner together and somebody across the way said brain tap because brain taps on our mind right now, we would hear that message. We wouldn’t hear the rest of the conversation or if it’s a sports team, you know, and then you might cross rooms. Oh yeah, the, you know, the oilers or whatever. You know, people are not the oilers anymore, is it? 

That’s how long I can follow anyway. You know, when people think about those things, those are brain has something called the particular activating system. So it’s always scanning our environment, seeing if it’s safe. So we have to come up with unique stimulus that causes a reaction in the brain and the deep core of the brain because this happens to us all day long when we’re not trying to do it. Like we might get pulled off something, somebody might pull in front of us make us angry or the part of the brain that controls emotion goes offline and we start screaming at the driver. You know, it’s not logical because I can’t hear you unless you have some kind of two way communication with that car, but our brain overrides that. So what we’re doing in a positive way is we’re saying, hey Brain, this is the frequency. Now. What I mean by that is if every cell of our body is that chrome a form and the energy at the mitochondria level is always vibrating and teeming with energy. It’s always looking at its environment in its own way through frequency. And it’s saying, do I need to adapt? Do I need to change? Do I go into cell danger response? 

Do I open up and become more relaxed and we know this is true now because what happens in the body is our body matches the environment and it changes our epa genetics, they now know that every every 40 seconds, 99% of our genetic code changes or adapts to its environment at that moment. So what we’re doing is we’re gonna use that to our advantage. We’re gonna put the healthiest light which is between 4 78 10 nanometer light. That’s what our body is used to using when we’re awake and then that’s going to feed ourselves the most under prescribed nutrient on earth today is light. But we’re also going to give it sounds that it likes because there’s a lot of ear rotating sounds out. There are a lot of background information in the brain usually just wipe those out. I tell people it’s kind of like living next to a paper mill and you go to that person’s house and you go how can you stand to live here? That paper mill really stinks and I don’t smell it. That’s because the nervous system is really good at it, basically deleting certain pieces of information. So we want to have unique data for the brain every session. So every session we did, we encode into that. And Before when I had my franchise company which I ran for 27 years, we only had 260 sessions and we ran for that many years now we have 2000 because there’s so many different issues that we found out that this could work for like dementia or stress anxiety and all those things. So we have to have different protocols and we can’t have somebody listening to the same program because they’ll treat it like that paper mill, they’ll just they won’t get the response. 

So we mix it up like we you might have like our brain fitness protocol that we use for dementia. It has seven sessions. And what they do is over a six week protocol. They listen to each session once a day and they rotate through for the seven weeks. And that becomes the protocol and we have other sessions too. But we, so that’s how it came about was basically out of a need to help people that I had been working with and then advancing it was easy because once you’re involved in this business for years, I tried to get other people to do the equipment and I didn’t want to mess with it because, you know, even though my degree’s in electronics, you know, my real business is helping people with psychology, not not making equipment. But then I finally said, you know what, I’ve got to do it myself. I’ve got to create the created tested and now we’ve we’ve hired a really good science officer who works with me so we can get all the protocols correct. And we’re getting a lot of research out there, like what we’re doing with you. I think these are all things that um because the science is clear now, but it’s still new. People hear about this and they go, that’s just a flashing light machine and they don’t understand that the brain follows frequencies of light, sound and vibration all the time. That’s how the sun tells us what to do all day long. Our body anywhere, biological system.

Cheng Ruan, MD

Right? Right. So, let me just tell you, like, sort of my viewpoints on this and how I understand it from my side. Right? So, um we’ve run over 7000 quantitative eeg’s on different people at my facility. I took the Center for lifestyle medicine. So whenever you say 10 hertz, I’m actually looking at people’s brain frequencies at what frequencies they are actually exhibiting under different conditions. And so what’s happening is um now I’m getting to the point I can look at someone’s brain map and before I even meet them for the first time, I have a pretty good understanding of possibly how trigger they are, maybe some pTSd in there and some depression, anxiety, right toxicities and stuff like that. And what’s interesting is that there’s always this underlying um the main post your frequency in the high beta and beta is like really oscillating high frequencies into 6g . And that’s associated with a lot of like hypervigilance, anxiety, excitement, but also associated like chronic infections, inflammation, stuff like that. And then when people are like really high powered in the lower frequency, that’s where like sleep apnea, sleep disruptions and hypersonic really comes in with sleep disturbances. 

And then when people have high power in the alpha frequencies uh or actually even low power in the all frequencies that’s associated with like chronic like obsessive compulsive nature and stuff like that. And so yes, we can actually see people’s brain frequencies. Uh and if I were to do it three months apart and nothing changes for the patient will look almost identical. So people are triggered and wired into these frequencies that are there that I visually see like on my computer, right? So what we look at in my facility is that if we are making sure that people have are lifestyle changes and whether they’re good quality supplements or food nutrition and stuff like that, that we’re able to take them into the health of nice frequency where serotonin is kind of vibrant, where everything feels pretty good and that’s always the goal here. So as you’re talking about the frequencies of the candle being 10-10 hertz, I’m like yeah 10 hertz is like always the goal I want for my patients to be. And it’s so freaky to me that you know, candles flicker at this at this 10 hertz and we’re really one with the universe when we talk about this, right? And so you know, and and when So let me ask you this like when light is actually admitted right? It doesn’t matter where it falls because in my head set right here we have light coming onto the ears. And I know there’s like meridians and stuff that connects to the ears in Chinese medicine. And then there’s light in my eyes. Like our sensory organs, our ears and our eyes. Like how how do these synchronize and are the frequencies different whether it’s the ears or the eyes or do or or are they the same?

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Yeah, the the base light is the same. Therefore 70 nanometer light? The blue ones and their 650 nanometer light? The red ones. But what changes is how they pulse. So we’re pulsing the frequencies in the year. So it’s kind of like a morse code but people don’t understand this, but like in rain man, the movie when Dustin Hoffman counted all those toothpicks in just a second, we can all do that. Our brain is that powerful. But we don’t because it’s not useful. You know, we’re not running around counting all the like panes of glass in a window and bricks on a wall, but this is what people like savants and things. That’s what they do because the world is too boring for them, The world for most people, the world is happening too fast for them. Everything is a mathematical equation. So they’re figuring it out now in the eyes were Paul saying it at brain frequencies. So if you and I were to fly a spaceship to Earth, we could measure the frequency of the Earth between .05 and 100 and so the brain will follow them. Like we have sessions for gamma and to create that bass drum effect of the gamma frequency to break down amyloid plaque and to get their brain right. And we like to do that in the morning, especially with people that want to wake up their brain. 

You know, if you do that in the evening, you might find that you’ve stimulated too much because also each of these brain waves tells our gut to produce more, you know, so when we talk about that the candle, just for your listeners to understand they’ve all experienced this probably they’ve been relaxing at night by a fire and if you’re there in a romantic situation, you might get lucky because you’re producing, you’re actually bio hacking because you’re producing alpha frequencies which produce acetylcholine. So now you’re feeling good. And that’s the one we get when we’re in love. So when you have that, uh that feeling, you start to associate that chemical reaction to the people or the events around, that’s why people say I love the ocean because the ocean has a has a frequency response about 10 hertz. Now, the difference is that we want to get you to the data to at 7.8 hertz frequency. When somebody gets into that field, we see a big gamma burst in their brain activity and we see a delta burst.

 And that’s cool because we know that when they have that delta person, I don’t know what’s going on in gamma. Nobody, I mean, that’s kind of new territory for everybody but the delta, we know that’s when the brain detox is. So if we can get the brain to that level for whether they’re sleeping or not, if we can get the brain and that it tells the lymphoma system to turn on. So some people while they’re using brain tap will be in that moment of paralytic experience, because the brain takes you out when it’s cleaning the brain, it’s kind of like how do I clean the floor while everybody’s working on it. So it says, okay, we’re gonna stop all work. And some people have woke up in the middle of the night and they have sleep paralysis and they in 2016, they finally realized that that’s the lymphoma system coming online and it only comes online during that level for brain experience.

Cheng Ruan, MD

And that’s so interesting because on the quantitative eeg what we’re seeing is that those people would sleep apnea, their brain likes to go into the data and delta frequency during the day, even like a few microseconds at a time. Right? And so that happens for three or four seconds at a time in medicine. We call this narcolepsy, right? So these are just sort of diagnoses that we put on people like poor quality sleep that are triggered. And um and what we see on our brain mapping is that we see exactly this. If people have really impaired sleep, whether they have sleep apnea, where they have dental issues, infection, sinus infection, whatever it is, right? If people are going to bed and there is some sort of infectious or toxic state during the daytime, their brain is like a king for this for the state of frequency and they do wake up and sleep paralysis, You know? And so this is taking the world of like neurology and putting it into the world of overall health and that’s why people get really sort of this, this signal mix ups whenever they have like mole toxicity or heavy metal toxicity, environmental toxins, infections, coronavirus, right? 

These are all sort of neurotoxins and the exhibiting neurotoxin is actually frequency changes that happen very very fast and these patterns are not written about very often but they should be right. So I think what brain tap is, what you have created here is actually like decades ahead of our time in understanding this because right now we’re starting to publish it when I say we I’m literally about me and my my team and we recently published one looking at the NFL population what their brain looks like. And so the words that you’re speaking is not just some general thing that we’re hypothesizing we’re assuming I can actually see on brainwave data. So when people sit in front of me I can tell you what frequency brain they are in in specific situations and uh and and sometimes when we look at people who have gone through major transformations 12 years major transformations we see. Yes. Now the brain is getting two more with alpha frequency. 

It’s getting out of the high bid state of hypervigilance is getting out of a predominant a state with the brain super sleepy. Which I you know that’s actually what ADHD Is sleepy brain phenomenon. And so I think that what this is working with, you know photo modulation and working with frequencies is that we’re bringing the whole picture together. Not really just looking at one thing but looking at how the hell do our cells work together from atomic level from from from from a mitochondrial level mitochondria is sort of the energy sub units in every cell in our body minus red blood cells. And so whenever whenever you’re talking about these things and I’m sort of visualizing in my head what the patterns people have. What in terms of predominant frequency patterns these equal disease days the equal sleep pattern and the equal narcolepsy the equal mull toxicities that equal dementia, parkinsonism and they all just affecting sort of different parts of the brain. So I get goose bumps when you talk about stuff like this.

So that’s why. 

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Yeah. Well tell me what I’ve what I’ve seen with with some of our base cans like we have a neuro tech H. R. V. And it doesn’t do right and left hemisphere do brain mapping. But it tells us percentage of brain waves through E. C. G. And we’re finding that almost everyone has over 50% delta when they’re awake. And what we find, they ask me why is that? And I say if we do the wadi or some other bigger piece of equipment will show that their brain wants to go to sleep because of inflammation or traumatic brain injury. And they that’s why they get home at night and they turn on the tv and pass out and they can’t have that quality time with their family because their brain isn’t regulating it’s been pulling up it’s like pulling a parachute all day long and and then they get home, they get to take the parachute off and then they pass out and they go man it’s just their brain is their brains trying all day to go to sleep. And then when they get to sleep they don’t have enough energy. It’s like I tell people you we’ve all had kids if you’ve had a kid, you know, they get to uh energized or they get too tired and they can’t sleep. You know, those two things. So what they don’t they don’t have energy in the brain. 

So those the red blood cells, they don’t need mitochondria because they absorb light, they absorb energy. That’s how they they’re the transporter for for light energy and were designed to be outside like solar panels but we’re inside you know most of the day. And so we’ve got to supplement that. That’s why I said it’s the most under prescribed nutrient. We need light to get the brain functioning right? I mean every day at two o’clock something happens all around the world whatever time zone you’re in your body brought drops in temperature two degrees. That’s controlled by the light of the sun. So when somebody what do we do in here in America as we run out and get coffee, tea or chocolate and say let’s stay stimulated. What the body is saying is I want to reboot, you know we should be in the Serengeti or wherever, taking a nap. Not you know, not out running to Starbucks or wherever to to recharge our system biologically. So you know we have those three regulatory systems and they’re all controlled by these brain waves. So if so the neuro hormonal system, if you keep if you keep stimulating pretty soon they’re gonna come see you for adrenal fatigue or some other burnout feature that happens in the body. 

Cheng Ruan, MD

Right? Absolutely. And I think another thing to really talk about and on the same topic is uh prescription

medications. So you have stimulants like methylphenidate aids. You know, Adderall vibe and stuff like that. And that is overriding this two p.m. Drop in body temperature, right? It’s like no you’re supposed to be awake right now, right? Yes. That’s gonna feel good temporarily. But what happens after months or years is that doesn’t feel so great because you basically step on the gas with nothing in the tank. Right? And uh and we can see the effects of this on the quantitative E E G.

Patrick Porter, PhD 

That’s great. That’s a great way to say because that’s exactly what happens. And then they go to sleep and there’s no energy. You know you can’t just keep taking deposits. I mean making withdrawals without making some deposits. You know you got to do something to add some value back. 

Cheng Ruan, MD

right? And even like antidepressants and anti anxiety medications, they do something a little bit different. They try to increase serotonin in the brain synapses, but it’s not necessarily a serotonin problem. Sometimes it’s it’s a cycle problem. We have to respond to the daylight to nighttime so we can have a circadian rhythm response and our genes are being expressed and changed and most people and then they’re shocked when I tell them this is that the medicines that you’re taking, actually changing your gene expression, especially anything that deals with manipulating the new transmitters. Are we doing any harm? I don’t know, I really don’t. I’m not against medicine. I think some medicine is great for some people temporarily, but we have to get to the root cause of what’s going on. You know. 

Patrick Porter, PhD 

I tell people the brain the brain is using at least 20% of all the energy resources and everything. It’s it’s like the king, it gets first cut of everything. But if it cannot do the work, it it will, it will. It’s just like the king says, you want to do that, you go ahead and then it turns off those circuits, those brain circuits. And then then when you stop, that’s what happens that we call it pruning, right? Instead of having neural plasticity, we have neural pruning because the brain goes, I don’t need to keep those lights on, Nobody’s in that room anymore. Just turn the lights off and then what happens is it gets overran and new circuitry gets written and they go, I used to be able to do this, I used to be able to go all day without eating and then just eat at night, you know, I used to whatever they used to do and they go, well that’s why you’re where you are right now, because that’s what you used to do. You, you know, we have to you have to have that balance in your life. And that’s why I think, you know, nutrition is important. It’s key for brain health and you’ve got to be moving and breathing, but you also got to do something for brain fitness, you know, like the brain tap.

Cheng Ruan, MD

Yeah, absolutely, let’s talk about nutrition for a second. You know, people, I think there’s a big hyper focus on nutrition these days because it’s sort of a sexy thing to talk about. But a lot of times we have to understand that our choice of food and our cravings is also dependent on light, energy is dependent on the

circadian rhythm as well. Right? So if by 2 p.m. Your your adrenals are shot because there’s either not enough light or even too much stimulating light coming in, we’re gonna be creating carbs, Right? So a lot of times, you know, people were like, well, I’m like on paper, they’re like eating the right things, doing the right things, but they’re always on like overdrive they’re sleeping even if they’re sleeping 6-7 hours may not be a good 6-7 hours right. And so that overdrive mechanism I find needs to be dealt with first so we can get out of this fight or flight. So it’s like if someone is persistently in a fighter flight, that means there’s a tiger always chasing them. And realistically we’re not designed drink a smoothie as we’re running away from a tiger. You know, we have to put our smoothie down and like beat the crap out of the tiger, run away and that and a lot of our brain frequency determine how much we absorb. And if there’s too much food coming, if I am drinking that smoothie and there’s kale in my smoothie and the tigers chase me. I’m gonna not tolerate kale, I’m gonna develop allergies and intolerances to that kale.

So when people come in, they have Brazilian food intolerances. I’m like, well, yes, food is not the enemy. Let’s talk about your brain, let’s talk about what state are you in? Are you in this person’s in fight or flight or you in the healing state? Like what state are you in? You know? And if you can’t be in a state where the body heals, then let’s let’s start with, let’s start with the top down the brain first, You know? And that’s what I love about brain tap and technologies like these because we ask the right questions and we get the right answers and it starts a cascade of things. So when we look at brain frequency, we optimize brain frequency, we’re able to see that, oh my God naturally starts to feel better. I get less eczema and rashes, my skin is starting to be smoother. I stopped losing hair, that’s kind of cool, right? And all these downstream things, you know,

start to happen when we put priority On the fundamental basics that we actually need and now I know that light is one of them. I didn’t know that before, you know?

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Yeah, we know also that the brain shrinks the course of an inch at night while we sleep because of detoxing. So in the morning, the worst thing you can do is just grab a cup of coffee, you should grab the water at least 20 oz and put some mineral salts in it because the body saying, hey, the reason you want that coffee is your brain’s going, I need fluids in their condition. Like you said, they go there, we need to stimulate that smr brainwave, the one that’s between alpha and beta to wake up. And unfortunately that’s the one that atrophies as we age, so we need to keep that one going also. I always recommend, especially most people don’t know this, but Bill, who wrote the big book, he really was an advocate of niacin and I don’t ravic eight going out and doing a tablespoon today. Do it slowly. Don’t do it without the help of somebody teaching you. But niacin does something to the body where it opens up those capillaries and gives you the nice and flush because the chronic low level stress that everyone’s under, they might not feel it in their body, but their capillaries are feeling it. 

You know, it’s kind of like holding your fist and just doing this that’s happening in every blood vessel so the capillaries get damaged and then they get, you know, they did they did a study with peanut oil and they thought it was so great. But then all the monkeys died six months later because all that oil was not in their bloodstream was in their capillaries. So people that’s why that’s a big thing right now in health is what is your capillary strength, how much blood flowing through there and the brain, you know when you’re doing light therapy, what we’re gonna do is we’re gonna create vasodilation, blood flow circulation, micro circulation improvement. So we’re gonna work on those capillaries to but you can help the nutritional side is at home every morning. I take a tablespoon of niacin before I do my brain tap in the morning just because I’m crazy and I’ve been doing it for years. I would never recommend that to anybody who doesn’t do it really slowly. Like my wife can only take like the tip of a spoon and she’s getting that niacin flush. So everybody has a different way. But you know, there’s also a lot of other nutrition, I just that’s one that most people overlook or there. Or they don’t like the flush. So they do have a niacin that doesn’t flush too. So I can’t remember what it’s called. There’s another name for it.

Cheng Ruan, MD

Yes so you bring up a really good point is the capillaries. You know I like to say that you know your capillaries is what we can see sort of on the outside on the skin right? And so underneath your skin and nails there’s tiny little blood vessels called capillaries. So whatever is happening in the capillaries is happening in your gut, you know happening in your teeth, your oral microbiome happening in your sinuses. And so uh so the skin tells a lot about the gut health and the health tells a lot about the brain health and vice versa. So it’s it’s it’s it’s a bidirectional streets, a two way street right? The gut brain connection. And so um with the capillaries and I find this very interesting is that there’s a whole other set of capillaries that’s an essential nervous system. The that for example in the retina layer so when light hits the back of the eye you have the retinas next to it. You have a bunch of different capillaries and they supply the P. G. R. C. The photosensitive receptors. So these receptors talked to the particular activating system that you’re talking about earlier to either stimulate a hormonal balance that allows for wakefulness or sleepiness. There’s only two ways to go again and again you know. Uh And so so one of the things that I was confused about, I’m so glad we’re talking about this is that there’s some people that have a lot of light exposure through computers right? Especially like at night time but that’s not necessarily a good light because it over stimulates those P. G. R. C. S. And so your brain is like I’m always I’m always running away from this tiger. I have to like slow down a little bit. Let’s talk about like what are what are good lights and what are actually bad lights to be exposed to in terms of time and frequency 

Patrick Porter, PhD 

like usually wear these at night. These are the blue blocker kind of things for the computer, minor prescriptions so that I can actually see the computer doing it. But they’re uh the thing is in in nature we would be going to sleep like you and I were whatever 3000 years ago sitting around the fire, we don’t go get other logs when it burns out. We just go to sleep. But the nice thing about burning a fire to it emits infrared light. So not only is the 10 hertz frequency but we’re getting 8 10 to 8 60 nanometer light so that’s calming down our our nervous system. And so as it does it it’s basically we’re being we have that was our sleep practice back then and the average person slept 12 hours a day. Now the average person sleeps less than 6 and you know we have TVs that don’t shut off. So we have all these things what’s happening when you look at a computer screen. And what’s so bad about it is not all only the color, it’s that the brain is trying to count all those pixels And when they’re going to change, the brain loves patterns. So it’s looking at the screening going, what is that one gonna change even though we’re consciously not aware of it. Because the eye this is the interesting part about the eye. Two that eye was just reading about and they say that we take in 2000 pieces of information through our eyes every second. But our brain gives us 10 million pieces of data. So that means we must be making this up. Where’s all this coming? You know, it’s yeah, it’s like feeding us, it’s feeding our brain more information than it’s receiving from the environment. 

Or at least that what we can medically say or you know, discern where so we must be we must have some filters or we must have some way to limit our capacity to see this realm if you will because there are people that like for instance our body with light, most people don’t realize that our body emits a 10 nanometer light. That’s why they can be seen in night vision and why Tom Brady has T. V. 12 clothing that our science officer made Francisco said Raul, he put ceramics in it. So Tom Brady’s own energy can come back and heal him and they sell it now and under armor Nike and Tom Brady. 

And so we have this light that we have and this light is we’ve got to tone it down. You know if it’s it’s like when we’re around people there are some people who get around there too high energy they’ll say and they’ll just feel it because there are some people are broadcasting more light. What we find is that it’s also controlled by the brain waves. If you have if you have a delta brain waves like you’re talking about that those people they did a study actually that Francisco is finding me because he sent me a clip to it. I said where’s the study? But it said that they when they measure this light. Like for these these glasses you wear, Those are those are tuned to a certain frequency and they found that people that are depressed, anxious, You know just basically angry people, they don’t produce as much light. They produce 200 times you produce 200 times more light when they were meditating in peace and harmony.  You know so the body even in a bio photonic, that’s the mitochondria actually sharing that information. It’s telling other cells how to change. And that’s the 99% of the epigenetic changes every 40 seconds that they didn’t map in 2003. You know, they map the gene but they didn’t map the 99. It was changed because we didn’t have the technology. Now we do now they now they can say they don’t know what it’s gonna do but they know it’s going to change. It’s kind of like fuzzy logic. They don’t know where it’s going to change or how it’s going to change. 

Cheng Ruan, MD

So we’re basically fireflies. That’s what that’s what 

Patrick Porter, PhD 

that’s right. It’s a low level light or you know low level to us.

Cheng Ruan, MD

Some other we’re gonna see it mosquitoes can see it right? And so um you know in what you just did for me was really valuable uh And it ties me to an experience in second grade. Uh in second grade I did an experiment for the science fair. And it’s why fireflies glow. I’ve always been fascinated by fireflies because I was born in china. We have fireflies everywhere. And there’s not often that we have electricity 24/7. So I really love these fireflies lighting up the night sky. Right? And so um and what I found was this beautiful thing called A. T. P. A dentist in triphosphate. And A. T. P. Is what allows the fireflies to glow its energy. And humans we make so much A. T. P. When we’re energized to do so. And this A. T. P. Also helps us uh emit infrared frequency like you said. And I actually found that out when I was in second grade and I’m like well this is cool. And so uh this A. T. P. Is actually made mostly when our bodies into what’s called aerobic respiration when we’re burning oxygen. And then we’re using things like niacin uh riboflavin B.2 Nicotinic acid uh to uh to stimulate this thing called the Krebs cycle that I learned in high school. And every turn of the Krebs cycle, we’re making 27 of these A. T. P. S. 

You know, like we’re all every spin. And then so when we’re depleted or depressed when there’s there’s metabolic issues. Instead of the Krebs cycle, we go to this lactic acid cycle where we make a lot of lactic acid. We make two A. T. V. S. Right? So as you’re saying that that humans in a lot of the delta frequency, which means that these humans are burnt out there in the delta frequency during the day. Right? A lot of humans in the delta frequency, they’re making lactic acid. They probably don’t feel very good. They’re only making two A T. V. S. So visually, if I was a mosquito, I could see that this human is meeting a lot less infrared. That might be that might be you know doing just fine. The Tom Bradys of the world. Right? And so and it’s so interesting that you’re saying that now there’s there’s like gear that you can utilize your own own light emitting frequencies uh sorry light emitting wavelengths not frequencies with light emitting wavelengths to actually do a self healing process through through sports gear. So that’s that’s so bizarre to me. But actually explains why this brain tap device actually works is we’re all I mean in the and we’re all light photons. Right?

Patrick Porter, PhD 

That’s right. Yeah. I tell people I’m going to shock you. You’re all light beings and it’s not a metaphysical concept anymore. You know science has proved it to be true. You might not like it but that’s what you are. You know at the base we’re all energy. So you know there’s no separation between me and the desk. I’m standing against. You know this is there’s just energy and reform it in our consciousness and make these realities. You know you talk like that off this year because we might get locked up. But that’s the way that’s the way. 

Cheng Ruan, MD

Exactly. And in fact if we weren’t native energy then there will be no such thing as an M. R. I. Because MRI’s detecting magnetic frequency differences. That’s responding to very different energy energy signatures within the seller body. That’s how MRI’s know what’s the brain, they know the density of our muscles. They know the ligaments and they can see a your A. C. L. And so um and that’s what’s super cool is that the science behind what brain tap is and what light is is something that’s already used in medicine like an M. R. I. Machine. It’s already used by mosquitoes to track humans that are walking around so they know where to bite them. Right? And so the science actually the basic science is actually pretty basic but applying it from a light emitting frequency to the healing process. Now that’s complex as hell. Right.

Patrick Porter, PhD 

We have a we have a whole algorithm that we’ve been using since the 80’s that that I’ve developed over the years now it’s now we have technology that can make it easier for me to do that. But we can change that. I mean when we were in private practice I would do specialized sessions for each person. Now it’s kind of like going to the gym and you go on you go on the circuit. You know everybody gets the same thing and somebody goes well how do you know they’re gonna do that? So you can use biofeedback to track it. But I’m gonna tell you everybody’s gonna do what’s on there at least after the third session the first time they might it might cause a little resistance because it’s change and they can’t adapt and some people can’t energy it’s kind of like going to the workout the first time and you get so sore you don’t want to go back but you got to go back so you can press those muscles and get those muscle fibers firing. And you know working for you and then after about two weeks you’re kind of addicted to go to the gym and you want to do it. Same is true with neurons. 

And we were talking about the ATP production. That’s why they can measure neural plasticity is they’re measuring actually ATP production in the brain in there. They’re using an algorithm that says okay that means there’s this many neurons because I don’t know a technology that can count neurons but because there’s so many of them they couldn’t do it as fast as they do it. But there’s a there’s an algorithm because they know the average person only has so much like across the frontal lobe you want to have 10.1or something. You know if it’s matched then you’re not going to have dementia or A. D. D. Or A. D. H. D. But you see those are different. That voltage. There’s also a book called voltages. You know that voltage is measured that same way. You know? So you could have 100 watt light bulb in there. But if you’re only giving it 30 watts of energy it’s going to produce like a 30 watt light bulb. You know so we need to get we need to turn it up and the nice thing is that the cells of the body all want to be used. But if you don’t want to use them they’re just comfortable shutting down. You know it’s just like the use it or lose it kind of mentality.

Cheng Ruan, MD

So let’s tie this to disease states, right? And so for example, attention deficit disorder, A. D. D.

And A. D. H. D. We’re seeing this in younger people now, right? Um How do we relate what we have learned from our talk today and technology into that disease? Where is the connection there? 

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Right. Well, you know, they say we have now, the kids have the same attention span as a goldfish about six seconds. And that’s because they’ve been trained that way. Look at the TV commercials when I was growing

up, we have a commercial at the end of the hour now it’s every 15, 20 minutes. So we’re being trained out of our attention. And so what we’re talking about, what we see is our training. We want to have What and why is created. I didn’t create this. I just use her uh information. She was with light and sound research too. And she wrote a book called the master brain wave. And it’s it was written a long time ago. But it’s still true today. About 45% beta, 30% alpha. The rest can be kind of the lower the delta, the better the more focus, the more concentration. But if we can train that way. So what we do is we have a training that we’re going to take them to alpha first because they need to learn and master that 10 cycle rhythm, but we don’t take them just to 10 cycles, that’s the problem most people have because the brain needs to adapt every 3 to 6 seconds. If not it cause it wallpaper and goes off and does something else. 

So instead of having a feedback loop with the what we’ve done is we’ve we’ve created kind of a frequency they call it. The science is called frequency following response. So we created a trigger response. Now, what we had to do in the lab was how fast can we run? And the brain keep up without losing it? Because if we go too fast, the brain’s gonna go, oh no, I can’t do that, I’m out of here. So that’s where the algorithm comes in and why it changes. Like you might notice every once in a while, when you’re using it, the light goes away, but it doesn’t, when your brain is balanced, you don’t see the light anymore because they’re offset a little bit. So yeah, at first people will, that’s one of the ways we know the brain is balanced. If there are a lot of people will look the look in their eyes, Oh, that’s still flashing, but it’s kind of like the brains in a in a movie theater, you know, the projector? We don’t see that. So that’s one of the ways the other is that when we do the dual voice, because there’s different levels of training and not all of our Children’s series or are even are learning series are used with the dual voice because if you already have attention deficit that might cause a little bit more problems till they get balanced. But the reason we’re doing that is we want to train the brain again under stress will shut down.

So every brain does this. If your right brain and you get under stress you’re probably going to find that your left brain is going to shut down so you don’t have access to your logic. So you’re going to be emotionally gonna scream, yell, do whatever. That’s why Children do that more than hopefully. But if you’re if you’re logical you can’t have a creative solution. You know a lot of times you might logically know it like the alcoholic that knows better but they still do it because as soon as they their brain goes offline don’t have access to that creativity. So what we do with attention deficit is we want to create what I call neurological flexibility. Kind of like heart rate variability. You want to be able to get into the stress state, get out of the stress state. So we’re always looking at clock speed. How fast does the brain change those? 

And it can be measured now. So how fast can you move from state to state and the best is to be in all three of them almost. Like in a like in quantum physics where you’re in two states at the same time the body is if you’re in the neutral state it’s like you have 33% of the low frequency waves which is the parasympathetic and then the high frequency waves which are the sympathetic and then you have the very high frequency which is the neurohormonal those are all controlled by brainwaves. So so if we can get them in the right place that tells the nervous system basically the brain is kind of like it doesn’t do much really as much as people think it’s the nervous system in all the innate intelligence of the body that’s doing all that work. But the brain has to be in the right physiological state. If not it’s like trying to see the statue of Liberty in Houston. You know you can only see it on a postcard. You can’t see it in person you know? But people want to get to that state of new york but they’re there in Houston you got to get to new york. So that’s why we’re gonna do the brainwave training. You got to get them into that physiological state and then the then the psychology matches or vice versa. You can get into the psychological state and the physiology matches If you’re flexible if you have that nervous system flexibility. 

Cheng Ruan, MD

Right? So then we started talking about A. D. H. D. And were the focus is supposed to be directed. But now we’re talking about a physiologic state that’s optimal for everything whether it’s A. D. H. D. Depression, bipolar Alzheimer’s disease. Right? And so whenever um and and this is what what the biggest takeaway from from this talk is is that whenever the brain is balanced in terms of a frequency balance and functionality balance, things can heal uh connections can reconnect, right?

And synapses can be better as well. And I tell a lot of people this is that, you know, people want to, you know, reverse a specific disease. I was like no this is not about reversing, this is about improving the hardware and the software process in the brain to get you into a state that you’ve never maybe never even been

before. Right? And this is why I tell people with like PTSD because I’m always living in the trauma in the

past and that trauma is creating headaches or insomnia and stuff like that. Well now we’re let’s let’s see if we can get the brain what it actually needs so that it can remain in this sort of healing, you know healing state and the power and transformation of the brain’s ability to do that is second to none. I mean there’s no organ like the brain, you know that there’s really not, right? And so as part of as part of this whole process and people because people on the summit that are listening to us right now they’re gonna be bombarded with a lot of information and technology and stuff right there. Right? But the primary functions of the brain still require light still requires frequencies and sound. That still requires some atomic level um fundamental concepts that are not just applicable to humans but accessible to all species. And uh and we are talking about quantum physics today we’re talking about things that every cell in our body actually requires to function at the optimal state. And that’s what the summit’s about about finding the optimal brain state and where it really should be in. Right? So let me let me ask you this. This last question is because there’s a lot of naysayers man there’s a lot of people were like no this like you said this is just a little device that emits a little light and frequencies and uh and what do you say to those people? Number one and number two is how do you convince those naysayers that this is actually something that that works out?

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Well I was fortunate to go visit Lutai in M. I. T. So if you want to find a fixed brain you know you go to M. I. T. Right? So um and luckily for me our science officer knows I mean our CEO knows the guy who runs the brain lab at M. I. T. She she’s the one who put out the report about blue light frequency blue light at 40 hertz frequency breaks down. Amyloid plaque. And did the whole study. I’ve met with her twice. And they spent $10 million making a blue light flashing room and that’s they build it its gonna be when if you ask her what a competition is she her hold up her headset because when I went to visit her I said “You know you get 6% in your study.” I said we found that we get 21% on average with brain tap but we don’t even have to do 40 hertz frequency. We do have gamma frequencies now. And she goes, she goes, why is that? I said, well because when you go across the 10 hertz barrier and you go across 7.8, you get a gamma burst and you get a delta burst. And I said I gave her a headset. I said, go test it for yourself. She came back and said, you’re right. You know, so and she if anybody would know she would know and they have all the tools there. And so we had one of our investors that didn’t know that. We had been there like two months before that. He went in because he was a Harvard guy and he knows the guy too. 

And he was being asked to invest in this thing. And he asked her, he said, uh, what do you what’s out there in the market that competes? She reaches down out of the drawer, pulls out the brain tap headset, she goes, this little headset is getting massive changes because of what’s going on. And we can’t figure it out because I didn’t give them my algorithm, I just gave them the hardware and I gave them access to our app. Now I’m sure they’re pretty smart. They could figure it out. They wanted to put the energy into it. But there uh the whole thing is that man is complex. Spirit is simple. So we need, you know, I’m always looking that’s what that’s what I was saying. Uh I always looking at ancient traditions in in India for instance in the Vega’s if you were depressed anxious, all the problems we see today with the brain you would one of your, what they would tell you to do is go outside for two hours before sunrise and sit. And so the and people go, why did tai chi in the morning? Why did they do yoga in the morning? That’s because these ancient traditions knew that that’s when more infrared light was hitting the planet than any other time. So you’re out there you’re getting but they didn’t have helmet lights, like we have our brain taps, you know, so they had to they had to make it work and what they don’t know how they got the information or you know, that’s that’s another that’s a maybe an ancient alien episode or something. 

But I don’t, you know, I don’t know it’s it’s kind of because there’s a lot of information out there in ancient texts from china and from especially from china and from India that it’s like we’re just rediscovering what we’re making it even easier though. Because I remember I was in Ames Bhopal which is the all India Institute of Medical Sciences which we do a lot of work with them and published some papers and Dr. Baron said well we don’t use technology. And I said what do you mean you don’t use technology? So we don’t, I said I’m hearing music playing while they’re meditating. I said that’s called the Mozart effect. You’re actually putting them into a 10 hertz frequency just with the music. That’s that’s cheating. I said also you’re having them sit in certain positions and breathe in certain ways. That’s a technology. I said why are they using a candle? Oh that’s to help their focus. No that’s because that candle’s bio hacking them, it’s putting them in 10 hertz frequency. Yeah. So I said what you’re doing is you’re just using ancient traditions there is modern technology can do it. That’s how I got aims both Paul to do three different studies last year. So I said look I’m already doing what you’re doing but I’m doing it with technology help me prove and then because they’re losing their culture over there because of because of the money they’re becoming more American which in some cases is good but in other cases as bad. But they had a great culture as far as the family would meditate and relax. And even if their life wasn’t so good, they had their spiritual life, you know to you know kind of fall back on now. They’re becoming more material and they’re losing, nobody wants to meditate because they think that’s silly and you know, they have a billion people over there so we gotta help them remember who they were.

Cheng Ruan, MD

Yeah, absolutely. And I’m from china, I’m Buddhist and I’ll tell you that what I know is that um you know sitting 1 and half to 2 hours before sunrise, but also with specific chance. And what I really discovered is that um ancient civilizations have come up with very similar frequency chance uh completely independently

and that’s practiced at sunrise and and right after sunset. And uh and what’s fascinating is that these

oscillating frequencies of sound when combined with light is the technology that we see today, right? 

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Like the dual voice that I do, they do that in Tibetan monasteries all the time. They put a monkey on each side and they’re doing, they’re blowing out the circuits to get new circuitry. So that that that neophyte can can start to chant those chance if they can’t they have different than they use sound technology to do that, but they know how to do it, they know how to get their voices to make the frequencies.

Cheng Ruan, MD

Yeah, so they’re literally getting their voice and very specific frequencies between years to do that so they’re able to to reproduce the dual voice. And for people listening we don’t know what dual voice. Can you just explain what that means? 

Patrick Porter, PhD 

What we did in the in my early days with my M. C. Square. I used to be the voice of the M. C. Square. That was when it wasn’t my company. I’m just working for them. And what I what we wanted to have was this was done with cassette. So it was a long time ago in the but what we wanted to do when the Mind Mayor came out which was that led bank that told us what’s on the right and left side. It was really, I mean if you saw it you’d think it was just a joke. But it actually did measure you know, brainwave activity. But instead of showing it on a screen because we didn’t have screens like this, it had a bank of L. E. D. S. And what we found was after a while of meditating almost everyone’s brain one half of it shut off or it lowered its energy. And so what we did is I said what if I introduced the sound on the other ear? Then the brain lit up and then we introduce another son and the other the brain lit up. And what we found out was after about three or four minutes it’s kind of like the synchronizing metronome on Youtube where they start them all at different times and they synchronized because the brain wants to be synchronized. But if it if it only has one source of truth or information, it will start powering down because it’s not in danger anymore. And when you’re talking about the hypervigilance, that’s one of the biggest problems we have today is, I mean we’re getting shell shocked every day, you know, with different things, people don’t know what is going to drop. 

And so they’re they’re in there. So the brain is shutting down. But when you introduce the voice like mine, I’m introducing a posit message because there’s two attentions, everybody can listen to us or they can listen to what’s going on in their house, right? But if we introduce a third piece of information, like music in the background now their brain will either listen to us or the music. But what if we gave them this information? Plus this information again differently. Now the brain is always getting that information. So now the for instance, if you want to lose weight, you want to be a nonsmoker. If you want to increase your focus and concentration, then now no matter where they turn they’re getting this information and that was also from a study that they did in biology class. Uh they they wanted to test students and they put in the corner of the class, all of the periodic table. But it would just flip. And for six months, the students didn’t know why it was over there, what it was doing, It just kept flipping and they’re doing the rest of their work and then it came time to do the, this periodic table. 

They didn’t get any lessons from the teacher, the teacher basically handed out a test. Everybody in the class passed the test, some got A’s, but everybody got a 70 or above and they never were trained. What they were was because everybody in the classroom, everyone was gonna be off track, right, They’re gonna, they’re gonna fill up and they’re gonna wanna, they’re gonna disassociate. What they would do is they would look over it there and they would learn that they didn’t know that because the moment the best place to learn is the moment you’re curious, right? So you’re bored, You look around, oh, that red picture over there or that, you know, whatever is going on and they picked up all. So like when our kids were little, I used to have things like that going all the time in the house, like to learn spelling words or mathematics, there’s a lot of things, and I thought that was great. Why don’t they do that more often in the classroom instead of having silly things. Uh he called it his digital um what do they call those boards in the classroom where they usually put up the little uh you know, like what if it’s Halloween, they decorate it or if it’s right valentine’s day, they have that like a cork board they would put things on. But he did it with with this projector and it proved to be very very very good.

Cheng Ruan, MD

That’s that’s interesting because right now all the rage these days on social media is as a S. M. R. Autonomous sensory meridian response where people like are eating food and into like, you know the left and right channels of different speakers. Uh and it’s create sort of sort of tingling and pleasure for response that’s there. They’re putting people into the alpha frequency. That’s all the rage right now on Tiktok and

stuff like that. So we’re talking about Dr. Patrick Porter: that they because ours is kind of like that when people first use it. Some people will get the chills like they do. And I was talking to someone, I have a I have a mic that does 360 sound that I use out in nature for some of some things that I get. And I was talking to somebody who’s like an expert at that. I said we should do some recordings for brain tap with that. But I think it would have to be a special audience because it’s kind of weird listen to somebody much on a sandwich or something.

Cheng Ruan, MD

Yeah and and it’s and it’s and it’s so interesting because A. S. M. R. Is is how um those people who are experts in hypnosis gets people into the hypnotic state which is a low alpha state 808 hertz. And all these different things are. And I feel like brain tap is sort of a combination of a lot of the things that’s been

done traditionally for a very long period of time on top of that is so much of the science to it. And then comparing that to the multi million dollar machine at M. I. T. That admits these these blue light. Uh And and and it’s and it’s so interesting how all these things kind of fit together into this little device. So let’s talk about specifically as we close it. Let’s talk about the brain tap app for a second. What is actually on the app.

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Well the app we’ve actually done studies that it just takes about twice as long. Like our sleep study When we did it with coal miners, they were able to get 70% improvement in three weeks with the head headset. But when they use the app it took six weeks. So everything’s on there. The app is what drives the the headset. So the app is um different programs, 2000 different programs. So for those technicians that are out there that are doing neurofeedback or biofeedback. We have sessions specific for that. We have over 400 sessions if you have the device that can tell you what the brain is doing. You can actually select specific sessions for the brain to train. But if you don’t, then we have protocols based on symptoms like let’s say that they want to lose weight or they want to stop smoking or they want to get over some kind of addiction or they want to improve their sports, we have football, baseball, you know, all sorts of different sports programs people use because it doesn’t always have to be about problems. 

You can improve your life to even to the point where we have a series that I did with napoleon hill’s group, think and grow rich, we have 17 sessions and take the book and transform it into 17 brain tap sessions. So I believe I did this at Quantum University where I head up the brain based wellness, which is really neurofeedback and biofeedback practitioners just helping them get through their schooling and we took the course in terms into a brain tap course. So they get the conscious learning, but then all their notes were put into brain tap so they could listen to their notes into a brain tap session. So they’re not all stressing about learning it. What we found is we took a four year course and make it a two year course. So they stress of learning and my goal is to someday when things are a little different out there is to change the way we learn because it’s so, so adequate, there’s still the 18 hundreds, I mean, we have all this technology and all this great way of learning and there’s, there’s a lot of ways to create super learning and, but we’re stuck in. 

Cheng Ruan, MD

Yes for the app people really just need a smartphone.

Patrick Porter, PhD 

You just need your own earphones so you can listen to the earbuds. And the nice thing is that you can even listen to an open room. We have people that just, you can, because it has ice, a chronic tones, which is a mono frequency. It’s like a waterfall, A waterfall is a chronic tone because it creates a frequency of about 10 hertz so we can still use those. It sounds a little weird. We don’t, we don’t make that sound so you can

actually consciously hear it, but it makes a cortical response, so your brain is hearing it, but you’re not consciously and it’s it’s actually modulating the binaural. So that that’s the way that the brain here is the two different sounds in the years. Like the SMR you’re talking about. So it gives you that feeling. But what we’re doing is we’re layering it so that if we don’t remember if we don’t catch the one, we want to catch the second because there’s a 1st and 2nd attention and I put a lot of time into that because when at first we had

people that either like that or didn’t like it now. It’s very rare that someone doesn’t like the experience because we’re, it’s a, it’s a, it’s immersion, you know into a different reality for 10, 15, 20 minutes, that’s pleasurable. It’s not there’s no resistance there. It’s like it’s like going on a fun ride at Disneyland, but you’re doing it for the mind,

Cheng Ruan, MD

Right? And of course the people of course is the head set that synchronizes with the app and that allows the whole magic to happen as well. Right? My favorite one is floating down the Nile.

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Yeah, there you go. Journey to Egypt. Yeah, that’s a long one.

Cheng Ruan, MD

It’s a long one, but it’s um it’s the one that resonated with me the most is very interesting.

Patrick Porter, PhD 

That’s the one I do. And I like when I got back from my trip yesterday from Vegas, it’s a 40 minute reboot.

Cheng Ruan, MD

Oh yeah, it’s the imagery is is so awesome too. And I get a different experience every time I actually do it as well. So it’s very interesting the sensations uh and experiential from what brain tap is. It’s so freaky to me that every time it’s sort of a different experience with the same program, but that’s just how our brain works is whatever state and physiologic state the brains in response to things, you know, quite differently whether it’s trip back from Vegas and I did it back when I’m back from Canada as well. So awesome. So can how can people try the app on on brain tap on the on the phone.

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Well if they go to brain tap dot info, they can get 15 days free on the app. No credit card necessary. Just download it. Use it. They can also get a book that I wrote called thrive and overdrive which is the condition

we’ve been talking about all day. You know everybody wants to go 100 miles an hour but then they wonder why their bodies burning out. You can’t just keep the gas pedal to the floor and and think everything’s gonna be cool so they can get that for free. That will give them some good. They can also just check us out on social media at drpatrickporter and they can see all the I do a lot of the little videos that they liked, what they heard here. They can we put out new videos every day. Pretty much. 

Cheng Ruan, MD

Yeah. And you have some of the most influential people in the world using brain tap UFC fighters and you know, heard about you and joe Rogan, I mean all sorts of different people. So this is something that I think it’s highly respected in the sort of the high performance field. I think it really should be respected in the neurologic decline. The Alzheimer’s Parkinson’s field as well. And so hopefully we’ll get there as well you know.

Patrick Porter, PhD 

well 10 years ago. I couldn’t even get to a neurological conference. They told me that and I said they said give us some data. So I did two years ago they gave me a lifetime achievement award. So that’s the way it works, one minute, one minute it’s crazy. But now they’re and that all happened because this doctor Dr. Carrick’s daughter started using brain tap for her son or in and when he started helping his family then

he realized, Hey, there might be something to this toy, you know that that’s what they’re calling it, you know, and it’s just because it doesn’t cost a lot of money, doesn’t mean that it’s not effective. You know, I could charge a lot more for this because I back in the 80’s I charge $500 for my machine. So I’m trying to keep it as low priced as possible because we want to help a billion brains and you can’t do that, you know $5,000 a pop. You know that that’s a very select group that can afford that.

Cheng Ruan, MD

So last question and then we’ll jump off is um what do you now know that you wish you knew when you started developing the brain tab journey?

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Well I think what I wish I would have known is that you could combine all of these at one time because most of them came along 3 to 5 years later the six different sciences that we have inside there and I was always trying to prove about which one was better until I finally said no these to work pretty good together.

And now of course they’re calling that stacking therapies or stacking hacks or whatever. 

Cheng Ruan, MD

Exactly

Patrick Porter, PhD 

And I always thought you had to do them separate. And so it took me quite a number of years to figure out that you could do them and also don’t fight the power, you know, I always, I like tight because you don’t fight force against force, you know, I tried I tried to like a bull in a china cabinet to get it in places before and if I’d have just kind of relax back and just let it evolve, I would have been a lot less stressed myself

being a stress free business, you know, and just because there are people out there that are always looking for a solution and I tried to go to the wrong people, which I didn’t know they were the wrong people at the time, I thought they were the right ones. 

Cheng Ruan, MD

Right and absolutely So listen, thanks a lot for coming on. What an excellent discussion is actually one of the longer sessions uh discussion, but for me it’s worth every second because uh for my brain it puts a lot of pieces together that was actually missing uh from in the neuroscience world. So yeah, once again, thanks for coming on and I’m gonna leave people with the takeaway that I wish people can have after listening to this, we talked about some really complex stuff in a very short amount of time. I don’t expect everyone to under fully understand appreciate, but here’s what to appreciate is that you have Dr. Porter here, that’s given his all into making something that is seemingly so simple but creates such a dramatic effect on brain health. And these are the people that we really need to put forward um, in the spotlight, uh, that’s doing the work of

people trying to make technology accessible to the public, uh, you know, not costing millions or even thousands of dollars, but something really simple to work on. So simple and so easy that my eight year old daughter is absolutely obsessed with brain tab, how much and to use it much more than than I do that, but that’s because she’s my daughter and she gets everything I guess. So, yeah, I want to thank people for listening and thank you Dr. Porter for being on. 

Patrick Porter, PhD 

Thank you for having me