Lyme and Pain Management

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Hey, everybody. Robby Besner, co-founder and device developer, Theresage, and we’re back with another amazing episode of the Healthy Hotline that is being sponsored now by Theresage. And what is so unique about these episodes is to bring more attention to the Lyme community. As everybody knows, you know, oh, maybe people don’t know, people in the Lyme community know this, but there’s not enough attention that’s brought to Lyme disease. 

For research and for money and all the stuff that goes into it, there’s gobs of money sent towards the cancer resolution, but not enough to Lyme. And so Theresage, as you guys know, part of our whole orientation of how we even started the development, the genesis of Theresage came from looking for solutions or meeting doctors and practitioners that could help us find solutions to help our daughter with her chronic Lyme challenge. So what this month of May is all about is meeting the most amazing practitioners, researchers and people that have bodies of work that is gonna spend 20 minutes telling you the pearls you need to help you resolve your Lyme challenge. You know, things that you can know, super important information. 

So today’s episode is with one of my dear friends. And I have to say this, honestly, I start my day talking to Dr. Michael Rankin Sr. and I end my day almost every single day talking to Dr. Michael Rankin Sr. So he’s super close to me in my heart. He’s touched so many people and their lives. Initially, when we got to meet each other and got to know each other, it was all about Theresage, and he found us and he found our products and he started using them to heal himself from his own injuries. And then started gifting our products that everyone that he knew, even people he didn’t know, just walking off the street, if he found out that there was a purpose, he would give them one of our products. 

So that gives you a little bit of a backdrop as to the nature and the heart of this guy. Where his main focus initially was all about cancer, he has shifted his business and his focus, and he’s probably one of the best emotional healers out there. And that’s what’s so important about today’s episode because Dr. Michael Rankin is gonna teach us how to really make the connection in the mind-body, address the emotional side of our illness. And we all know, and for the people that don’t know out there, you really can’t completely heal unless you address the emotional side of your health challenge. So with that, I want to welcome my dear friend and partner in business and in health care, Dr. Michael Rankin Sr. Michael, please tell the audience just a few minutes, spend a minute or so on a little bit of your background and a little bit of the things that you’re focusing on these days.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Thank you, Robby for the introduction. I really appreciate that. And, you know, I just go back anytime we talk, back to the 2007 when I came back from China with a life-threatening illness, injuries, and the only thing I used for pain was Theresage. And to find you in a milieu of all the things out there was truly God sent. And I’ve never had a drug in my body. I’ll be 70 on my next birthday. And I’ve never taken drugs. I don’t prescribe drugs. I don’t recommend drugs. I don’t recommend anything damaging to the patient. 

What I recommend and what I’ve discovered is that whether it’s people with cancer, where we spent our early days helping people understand cancer, is that people don’t necessarily die of cancer, they die of treatment. They die of being emotionally really forlorn, or starvation, or poisoning, or whatever the case may be. But at the bottom of all of that is a lack of impairment of their own abilities to resolve their own conflicts. Cancer’s a conflict, Lyme is a conflict. Mold reactions is a conflict, et cetera, et cetera. Not everybody reacts the same to all of it, but everybody reacts to some level to all of it. 

So what we discovered is that the whole issue across the spectrum, and we’ll focus on Lyme for our discussion today, is across the board. What we discover is that many, many people that come to us that have an issue with Lyme have been disempowered by the people with whom they are interacting, whether it’s family members, doctors, whatever. 

Fill in the blank. Our goal, and I learned this from Dr. Cowden way back then, our goal is to teach people, to empower people, how to help them resolve their own issues. If we empower the person to understand why they’re reacting to something, then they’re not the victim to their challenge, they are understanding how to resolve the challenge. So you look at our webpage testingcancer.com, and it’s got a myriad of information on there, and a lot of testimonials about the serious issues with pain, about the serious issues with headaches, about the serious issues with vision loss. And this can all be experienced by someone with Lyme, all of this. And so we thought, well, there’s a lot of synergies in this whole issue across the board with every health challenge. So what are we doing with that?

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Let me stop you for one second. First off, for all of you that want to get a hold of Dr. Rankin, you can call him directly. I can’t believe, you’re allowing me to give them your personal contact number, but it’s 954-889-3896. Or you can email him at clinic, C-L-I-N-I-C, @testingcancer.com. And he just mentioned his website, which is super informative, testingcancer.com, WWW, of course. Now, the concept about empowering is interesting to me because, you know, we’re both a little bit older than most of the younger community out there and in our generation and the generation before us, when I would ask my parents, who’s in charge of your health care, they would always say, Dr. Schwartz or Dr. Johnson, you know. And I’d say to my mom and dad, “No, no, no. You are in charge of your health care.” That’s what you mean when you’re talking about empowering. 

And you know, when you have a chronic challenge, like chronic Lyme, and you’re feeling really yucky, it’s hard to figure out that you have the control over the TV set, because you always want to look for that Lyme literate doctor, or maybe even a family member that’s educated to sort of help you and support you. But I just love the idea that you bring it back home. Because even though you may have those other support systems, you still need to know that you’re in control of your TV set, and you can really move the needle here. And I know later on in our interview today, you’re gonna give us some helpful hints and easy solutions to get started on that, embracing that empowerment and taking control over your life, your destiny and your health care. So I’m sorry, I interrupted you, keep hitting it, Dr. Rankin.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

The other thing they can do, and this is for texting our clinic, if they want to text a question or something like that, or get some direction on what to do to move forward with questions or whatever else, we work around the world. We work long distance. They don’t have to come to us. They can come to us. We can come to them. But bottom line is that if people become educated as to why they’re experiencing what they’re experiencing, Lyme is part of a general conflict. 

Lyme is exacerbated by a number of things inside the body. What is the number one thing that 100% of all people we’ve ever seen or talked to over 25 years, that is a consistent theme is dehydration. People say, “Well, I drink water.” It’s not good enough. If your body’s blood is not water, your body’s blood is normal saline. If you went to the emergency room and need to hydrate, they’re not going to give you a water in an IV because you would explode, you would die. You would have an aneurysm. They will give you normal saline. So what happens if you give normal saline? Well, how do you do that? You take a glass liter bottle. I use the glass bottles because they’re cheap and they’re good glass. Put a quarter teaspoon of sea salt in a bottle of water that you make yourself, we recommend distilled water, and drink that about 60 ounces per every 50 pounds of body weight, and you drink it about four ounces at a time on the average and do it slowly, pretty soon, your antidiabetic hormone will kick in, and you’ll start to, the body will say, “Oh, I need this water. I’ll keep it.” 

Anybody who is retaining fluid, whether it’s a cardiac problem, a Lyme problem, whatever, mold problem, doesn’t matter what the problem is, it’s because they’re dehydrated. Second thing that exacerbates everybody’s condition across the board, 99% level, it’s constipation. Why constipation? Because the patient because of a lack of hydration. The other thing that everybody is lacking is magnesium, a proper form of magnesium. We like Mother Earth Minerals. We like NutraMedix. But a proper level of magnesium, you cannot be constipated with a proper level of magnesium. 

It’s impossible. Because you take magnesium up until your bowels become a little bit loose. What is magnesium for? It’s to provide lubrication to the mucosa lining. What is it also providing lubrication for? Your lungs. So when somebody has an issue with Lyme, and they’re constipated, which is large intestine, right? That’s affecting their lungs. Then you’re causing two problems to occur, breathing issues, but you’re also stimulating a negative response in the gut, which can then make you feel crazy. And a lot of times and, sadly, because of ignorant doctors, that I’m not gonna call them stupid, I’m just gonna say ignorant. 

They’re lacking knowledge. We all have the opportunity, and like Dr. Cowden told me so many years ago, that everybody is lacking knowledge. From the time we come out of a womb until the present day, we have the opportunity to learn. We are born ignorant, and the ignorance is replaced by knowledge. I heard the same thing from my father when I was 14 years old. He sat the boys down. He said, “Boys, you’re made in the image of God.” He said, “If you think you’re ill, it’s either spiritual or emotional. Get over it.” I’m 14 years old. I’m thinking, “What’s he talking about?” But we didn’t argue with my dad ’cause he was an attorney and where was no way to win an argument anyway. 

But I figured he was pretty smart so I’m gonna listened to him. Little did I know that all these years later, from 1965 until now, that I get into the work of helping people with emotional release and found that Lyme is also exacerbated by a lack of love, either lack of nurturing, a lack of care, something that happened in early childhood. Sometimes it’s exacerbated by some blow to their head before the age of six even. And this happens a very large percent of the time. So all of these things can kind of implode on the person, but number one thing that anybody who has a health challenge, whether it’s Lyme, cancer or whatever the case may be, they’re as smart or smarter than the medical professionals they’re talking to. If they care to be. If they care to be. I remember a phrase that Dr. Cowden told me, I’ll never forget it for the rest of my life. I mean, it’s 1979, I think, something like that. 

He said, “Michael, when you start doing medical training, understand one simple thing. Jesus can’t be that stupid.” I went, “What are you talking about?” And I’m thinking, and he went on to explain. He said, “Look, we’re created in the image of God. Does it mean something to you? If it means something to you, it means that the way you were constructed was magnificent.” If something is wrong, figure out what is wrong. And don’t be told that you have an illness over which you have no control. If a doctor causes fear in you, walk away. Because like my daddy used to say, “Don’t dance with the devil and expect a good decision in your favor.” If somebody is causing fear in you, walk away. It’s the wrong motivation on their part. And they’re gonna tap into something that’s going to make you feel fearful. The amount of information that’s out there for the individual to understand that basic things I’m talking about from a brain fog is caused by what lack of fat, lack of water. 82% of the entire body of the brain is supported by fluid. Fluid, water. When you don’t have enough water, then you can have backaches. When you don’t have enough water, you can have brain fog. When you don’t have enough water, you can’t sleep. If you don’t have enough magnesium, you can’t sleep. And on and on it goes.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Wait, let me stop you. Let me stop you ’cause you’re giving us so many pearls, and I just want to slow it down because I’m just writing them down. They’re amazing. Now, you know, magnesium, certainly you can take Mother Earth’s magnesium and just, you know, as a supplement. But there’s lots of easy ways to get it, like just taking a nice warm bath at night. You can put Epsom salts into, or bath salts, into your bath and then warm your body up, calm your autonomic nervous system down, get you ready for sleep. 

Because many of the Lyme community out there, you know, they have sleeping challenges too. Their circadian rhythm clocks are off. And so getting a restful sleep is super important because then you’re supporting your immune system. And so when you don’t get that sleep, you wake up tired, then you’re actually giving the Lyme and co-infections an opportunity to take more charge, where we can reverse that pretty simply. So taking a warm bath a couple of times a week is perfect. Adding salt, oh my God, it’s so simple. Like what you just described about adding maybe a quarter teaspoon of salt to your water or to your food every day.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Sea salt.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Good salt. Good sea salt.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

It has to be sea salt, not Himalayan. Himalayan, most people have an allergy to.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Yeah. And then, you know, Dr. Rankin, the internet is such a great resource. And this occurred to me maybe two years ago that, you know, you and I are basically, we manage our health incrementally every single day, so we’re pretty much on top of our game, but the people that are afflicted with chronic illness, particularly chronic Lyme, as we’re talking today, they don’t have all the time in the world. They don’t have the focus that you and I have to do on this. 

They get on the internet ’cause they’re feeling yucky and all of a sudden, boom, they’re overwhelmed with a bunch of information and can’t really kind of cut through all that to find out what’s important. And that’s why I love meeting with you today, because I almost forgot to tell the community about your nutritional background as a naturopath and so forth. And so you got it all together. Even though we’re talking about emotional healing today, you can really kind of bring in all these other elements that are so important for us all to learn that we can do ourselves to make a difference. But the last thing I want to say is, and then I’m going to let you get the mic again, is about this whole lack of love thing. 

You know, because our families love us, and we want to believe that they love us, but the lack of love really may not be about, you know, mom and dad, you know, supporting you, bringing you your lunch every day, making sure your bed is tidy and that you’re clean and giving you all the things that you need to survive through the day and through the week and so forth. The lack of love is something a little bit deeper. And oftentimes when you have chronic illness, you feel very closed off, you’re alone with your illness. You know, like people don’t quite understand you and there’s a little bit of disorientation. 

There’s also the feeling like there’s no way out of this. And that leads to depression, which actually closes you off from possibly receiving the love that you need to support you through your journey. And so you really kind of have to open your mind a little bit. And I just love that you touch on that because from an emotional point of view, it’s so important to understand where you sit, where you play in that orchestra, or, you know, in your own playbook of the tapestry of your own personal, physical and emotional makeup. So let’s keep going because you’re driving them home on all of these points, Dr. Rankin. We appreciate that.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

What are the things that we will send to anybody who sends me an email, and this can get overwhelming, but I’m going to offer it anyway. Anybody who sends an email to [email protected] and they ask me for our juicing protocol, which will help 100% of the listeners to this conversation. I will send it to them. That juicing protocol is antifungal and antiviral. It’s very, very nutritional. It covers a lot of good constituents from the juicing that people need. People think, “I can eat my vegetables,” but most people that have some kind of Lyme conflict have a problem in the gut, lack of production of hydrochloric acid, so they’re not breaking down their food. So they’re really malnourished. And that’s one of the major components. 

The other thing is that we have to realize that you can’t, you’ve got to stop this from bothering you. This cannot stimulate you negatively, and then you expect to feel good about it. You can’t do it. We put this block on the back of the phone, but it doesn’t really block. The beautiful thing about that little disc, and I’ll send the information to anybody that writes, you put that disc on the phone, it literally takes the energy of your phone and turns it into a healing modality. It changes the chaos of the phone energy and turns it into a healing modality. It’s amazing. It calms people down. 

You can take that same disc and put it on your smart meter, and your smart meter energy that’s gonna be powerfully negative, can be turned into a very powerfully positive type of healing modality. The other thing is to make sure you’re turning off your wifi, make sure you’re turning that you’re doing something with the smart meter. The smart meter covers could be okay, but I’ve never found them to be that effective frankly. That little disc I think is $115 or something like that. And you put it on your smart meter, basically turns your smart meter into a non-issue, which is magnificent

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Right. So, you know, I just want to interrupt you for one more second. I’m sorry to keep doing this because there’s just so much stuff going on here. EMF, Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt did blood studies and actually showed that the amount of neurotoxins, which is a by-product of a Lyme or co-infection is 80 to 90% higher in the areas of the Pacific Northwest, where his clinic is, in the urban areas versus the rural areas. So if they’re eating the same food and they’re drinking the same water, and they’re breathing the same air, the real big difference is that concentration of cell towers, which is what you’re talking about. 

When you surround yourself with EMF, those frequencies oscillate at around 80 times greater than the body frequency. So it takes your body out of body balance, essentially energy balance, and it activates the bugs. So you’re feeding them energy to just have them use more resources, you know, suck more life out of you essentially, and create a greater toxic event by the poop of the neurotoxin they put out. So shielding from EMF is another great solution, guys. You have to write this stuff down because these are inexpensive ways for you to modify your home setting, the building biology that you live in, that microcosm, to support your health, not to take your health from you. 

Mike, let me bring you back to this emotional piece because you’re one of the national authorities on this. And it’s super important for everybody out there to understand the kinds of things that they can do. Maybe it could be guided meditation. It could be listening to a favorite music, getting themselves into the happy place. What kinds of things can I do if I were bedridden and, you know, kind of depressed a little bit, ’cause I’m stuck in my spot, and now COVID makes us extra stuck and everybody else around us real anxious. What kind of things would you suggest I do to sort of calm me down? Like maybe get me into a much happier place, or more, give me kind of the hope that I need, that I really can control my TV settings and somehow maneuver myself out of this health challenge.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Well, number one, anybody that ever starts working with us, the first thing that they have to sign is an agreement they’re not gonna watch the news. CNN and CBS and all that, that’s not news. It’s manipulation. Okay? And so we don’t want them to be negatively manipulated. If you’re gonna do something, sit down with your family and watch a wonderful love movie, you know, family movie, family time. The old movies especially. Okay? Back when I was teaching English to non-English speaking people, when I traveled overseas, I would use the very old movies because the old movies had good acceptable language than movies today. 

So watching really funny movies, right? Making sure that you don’t watch any television or any tablet, any tablet, 90 minutes before you go to sleep minimum. Don’t look at tablets or have cell phones in your hand because you have acupuncture meridians in your entire hand, and now you’re gonna put a cell phone against those acupuncture meridians, what are they going to do? What we found is that affects the pineal gland. When it affects the pineal gland, you don’t produce melatonin. You don’t produce melatonin, you don’t sleep. The suggestion you made a minute ago, which I think is just a subtle brilliance, is to take a shower filter, fill your tub, with the shower filter, one going down to the tub, with good filtered water, four cups of Epsom salts and two cups of baking soda. 

You sit in that very hot tub and just bathe yourself in this magnificent Epsom salts, which is magnesium. 100% of the people that do that, get very calm. We teach them how to do a thing called the median sequence, which if they email me, just put median sequence, I’ll send you back a PDF file about median sequence that we learned from Dr. Glenn King, one of the geniuses of our time. How did he learn about that? Because he was dying from these grand mal seizures he was having, that was gonna kill him. And somebody stopped the grand mal seizures by holding his two big toes. So-

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Wow, wait, wait, wait, stop. Stop. Because many of the Lyme guys out there, and we experienced this personally, because Julia had maybe a six grand mal, and then she also had these neurological episodes, which were, we think, they were sort of mini seizures. So many, many people out there can certainly relate to this. So you’re telling me just by holding my big toes, I can stop that from happening?

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. You can also hold someone’s thumbs like this all the way in the palm of your hand and put it inside. So you’re holding their thumbs in your hand and just hold it until they stop seizing. It would be effective 99% of the time if you’ll hold on.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Right. Okay, awesome.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Now, listen to this Robby, this is crazy stuff, but this is cool stuff. We had a person with with a brain tumor. We did a lot of emotional release work. Dr. Carrie Wheeler and I would tag team each other with this wonderful man. And we did all this emotional release work, and we showed him how to manage the tumors because after he had the start of the brain work, before they got the tumor removed, he was having loads of seizures, and it was very dangerous. So we taught his family. He would show people in the restaurant how to use this maneuver. So if he started to have a seizure, he would say like this, and they would grab his thumbs and they would stop a seizure, okay? So when we did all this work, now, this is how powerful this is, they went in and removed the tumor. The tumor was dead. It was no longer active.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Okay.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

So we used a combination of Chinese herbs, emotional release, all the other things I just talked about, had his family manage his seizures by holding his thumbs. And it was effective for him. Very, very effective. Yeah.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

You know, let me stop you for one sec. The thing about seizures. Seizure is sort of like hard reboot on your computer, the same thing, you know, holding the power button down, and it kind of gives you a hard reset.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Right.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

The thing that I understand to be the most dangerous about seizures, isn’t really the seizure and the hard reset, ’cause it’s really your brain on sensational overload, there’s too much information that can’t sort it out, and so then it just does a reboot. The thing about it though, is during that time, which could be a minute to three minutes, something like that, you lose control of your muscular system and you might fall. So the real danger is about hitting like a sharp object and the fall more than it is the seizure itself in terms of the physiology. So for people out there, my God, Michael, giving your close friends and relatives and family that quick remedy, if you go into an episode, to stop that? It’s just incredible.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

It’s magnificent, absolutely magnificent. The number one thing that we’ve found that we have been led to do when people call, it takes a little bit of planning to take all the calls, but if we’ll just spend a few minutes listening to them, tell us what is happening and what they’ve experienced, what’s the number one thing that everybody with a Lyme conflict has experienced, more than one practitioner. With many, many suggestions, unfortunately that never got to the basics.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Yeah, wow, this-

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Anybody that’s listening, Robby, if they will just write to me, I’ll give them the 10 things that everybody has to do to maintain their homeostasis in their own bodies and how to recharge the reaction to stimulus.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Wow. That’s amazing.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Okay?

Robby Besner PSc.D.

That’s amazing.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Because we want to empower people, Robby, because of there are more people with the conflicts now than ever before. Why? Because if you read the book, “The Invisible Rainbow,” we know that every time there’s a change in frequencies from two gigs, to three gigs, to four engaged, to five gigs, by the way, we’ve measured the meter in the office that I just moved from, and it was eight gigs. The motor was putting out eight gigs. Imagine what that does to your body. Imagine what that does to your iron levels. Imagine what that does to your fluid levels. 

So people talk about structured water. Where is the body supposed to have structured water? In the human structure. Okay? How do we get structured water in the human body? By drinking a glass of structured water? Number one. Wonderful idea, right? It’s a start, but if you don’t stimulate the body with positive frequencies, like the things I was just showing you, some of the little tools we did showed you. We have technology that will stimulate the structured water in the body, which is 99% fluid. And that’s why like Michael takes trigeminal neuralgia patients and stops their trigeminal neuralgia. He takes people with sciatic pain that had been in the sciatic pain for 10, 20, 30 years and stops it in an hour.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Right. You were talking about your son, Dr. Michael Rankin Jr., who’s also a practitioner.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Exactly.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

That’s not too far from you.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

That’s right.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

And both of you guys manage a virtual practice, which is super important because people can get to you from anywhere in the world like I mentioned earlier.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Anywhere in the world.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

And you use emotional healing, use eVox, you use voice intonation as tools. Plus you’re an empath and you use muscle testing to tap into people’s intuitive, your intuitive side to tap into what kinds of things and what order they need to do it in in order for them to handle. And you know, what you said was so empowering just now. I have this with Julia. You know, she had seen more than 30 practitioners, and it gets the point where this is what happens. Each practitioner puts you on a protocol. It works for a little while, so you go into remission. 

Then you have a relapse. And so kind of over time, it’s sort of a zero sum game in your overall health, but your emotional health keeps going lower and lower and lower every time you get hope and you’re disappointed, and you get hope and you’re disappointed. And so it got to the end where my daughter didn’t want to see any practitioners anymore. And what you’re telling us is something altogether different, Michael, empowering yourself, like understanding that there is real solutions, that you can do a lot of it yourself and that there is hope out there. And that’s the big headline from today’s interview. 

And it’s amazing, the things that you’ve told us. We only have a few more minutes, so Mike, please give us some pearls, tell us, I’ll repeat, you can get him directly at 954-889-3896. You can write him at [email protected], or you can go on his website, testingcancer.com. And I urge you, everyone out there, take Dr. Michael Rankin Sr.’s offer, take his offer, because he will send you information that’s invaluable. And he breaks it down into simple steps that will really help you get back on the road to recovery.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Absolutely.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

So Mike, please, please give us some pearls. And then I want to wish you well, and thank you so much for joining us today. So please give us some nice closure here.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

It’s important to realize on all the thousands of people that we’ve tested, you can test people without have high Lyme and no symptoms. You can test people with low levels of Lyme and high symptoms. So it’s just like, when you let’s say, there’s a forum that talks about mold. And mold is not really the issue. What the issue is, is how your body’s reacting to the mold. Otherwise, the 100% of the population around the world would all react to the mold the same way. But they don’t. 

So it’s the same thing with Lyme. 100% of the population has some level of Lyme, active Lyme. And we have to look at what is causing the body to overreact to stimulus. We can tell you those things. We can show you those things. We can show you how to test yourself with very simple tools on how to monitor your reaction to food as you’re eating it. Not going somewhere, not getting an allergy test, which I think is useless, because the allergy test is at that moment. What did you just eat before you just took the test? Someone gets a runny nose. They say, “I have the cold.” 99% of the time they don’t. They have an allergy stress response to some stimulus, okay?

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Right.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Let’s say, for example, it’s summertime coming, and you go out into the sun and you get way too much sun, and it feels so good. And then you go, “Ooh, I better go inside because I’m getting a little bit too much sun.” The next day you go out in the same sun, and it goes, “Oh my God, that hurts so bad.” That’s a person with Lyme, with a conflicting issues, exacerbating the reaction to the Lyme. So the number one message today, it’s not just the Lyme, it’s all the conflicting things contributing to that. 

On top of the fact that probably 90% of the people that call us feel so betrayed, and they’ve lost their empowerment. You have to trust your intuition. Your intuition is your right brain. Your right brain is your connection to God. Your left brain is your logical so-called, which also becomes rumination. So that’s why those little discs we use to help to calm the right to left brain conflict, get them out of a sympathetic and get them into parasympathetic. That’s why we put them on the gallbladder 10A, because that gets them back into parasympathetic. Everybody has the capacity as much or more so than any doctor they’ve ever seen. Everybody has the capacity, the intuition and probably more so than any doctors they’ve ever seen. 

I guarantee you that. Okay? After going to thousands and thousands and thousands of presentations over many, many years, I promise you, everybody that can go to these presentations can learn the same thing we learned, know the same things we know, it’s just that we spend time going to the root cause of something. And that’s the conflict of it. Not the level of it. That’s why I don’t do a lot of Lyme testing of any form. 

That’s why I don’t do a lot of mold testing of any form. It’s very easy to determine if someone’s got an excessive amount of something causing them to overreact. Trust your intuition and stop running around to this person, that person, this person. Send us a note, an email, and I’ll tell you the top 10 things to do, to study on your own. Do I have this? Could it be that? Do I have this? Could it be that? And you’ll see the branching logic. 

That’s the other thing that Dr. Cowden was famous to talk about, is branching logic. The conventional medicine, the conventional doctor gets to understand is taught to remember this, apply this. Memorize this, apply that. It has nothing to do with intuition, has to do with a checklist. That checklist may have nothing to do with you. So you have to rely on your own intuition first. And then when the doctor says something, what you should you say? “Why would I do that?” If they get offended, because you asked the question why, hang up the phone, walk away. If they get offended, because you asked the question why during the office, walk out. Say, “You know what? It doesn’t feel like we’re a fit.” Ask why his? Why that? Why this? Why that? And if you’ll just email me at [email protected], I’ll give you some things to calm yourself down within a few days. I’ll give you something to calm yourself down to where you can start sleeping and calm your body down and sleeping better in just a few days with your own hands.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Wow. Wow.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Okay?

Robby Besner PSc.D.

So important. Wow. Amazing. Michael, I can’t thank you enough for joining us. I was hoping and praying that you’d given me one or two pearls. And from what I can see, this was choke-full of pearls. So I so thank you for your contribution. I know many of us out there are going to really take heed to the things you’re suggesting. And I really urge you all to reach out to Dr. Michael Rankin Sr., his practice, take him up on his offer for those simple tips that he can give you, check in with his virtual practice and take him up on his offer and take the opportunity to really look introspectively and make a big change. 

Michael, like, I don’t know how to thank you myself enough, because today was an amazing interview. And you stop traffic every time I get you on these interviews, ’cause you’re amazing with the things that you offer everybody, that’s so, so important and so integrated. And, you know, we all forget and stop listening to that inner voice inside of us, that voice of reason. And you keep referencing Dr. Lee Cowden and he’s my mentor too. And I know he’s been a big influence in your life. 

So we always want to thank Dr. Cowden for his contribution, but mostly it’s really just understanding that there are resources out there, but also understand that it has to be right for you. And don’t get overwhelmed with all that information overload. Just keep asking yourself that question. Does this seem right? Does this feel right? Does this protocol feel right? Does it work for me? Just keep asking. Listen intently to the inner voice inside of you. It’s the best doctor on the planet. Nobody knows you better than that inner voice.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

That’s right, Robby. What I recommend everybody do, Robby, is after they talked to somebody, whether it’s us or anybody else, don’t make a decision for 48 hours. Okay? Record the conversation. We record all the conversations that people want to record them so they can go back and let’s listen to them later. When I do the emotional release work, I said, text me over the next three days, because over the next three days is when you’re gonna to forget 90% of what we talked about, but it’s a very simple things to get you back on track to do that. Because number one thing that we are all a part of is love. Okay? And love conquers all fear. Okay? I don’t care what you believe. I don’t care what your religion is, but I want to encourage you to just remember, we’re all created in the image of something that created us, and I believe that’s God, and we were made in that image, and that image is pretty magnificent. If that image is not clear to you, then get a different mirror, okay?

Robby Besner PSc.D.

What else we learned was there is an off button. Just like there is an on button.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Exactly.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

So all you guys know now to turn those units off and start looking, you know, getting grounded, get connected with nature and things like that.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Exactly.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Dr. Rankin, we got to go, but I love you intently. I can’t wait to get you on the screen again real soon. You lymies out there, check out Dr. Rankin Sr., his practice, he’s got it all gone on. Michael, thank you for joining us.

Michael J Rankin Sr., N.D. MA, BA

Love you, Robbie. Thank you so much for taking the time. Bless you, brother. 

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Hey, everybody. It’s Robbie Besner. Thanks so much for joining us today. Please share this content with anyone that you think might benefit from it. And we’re looking forward to having you with us tomorrow for another great interview.