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Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC, has served thousands of patients as a Nurse Practitioner over the last 22 years. Her work in the health industry marries both traditional and functional medicine. Laura’s wellness programs help her high-performing clients boost energy, renew mental focus, feel great in their bodies, and be productive again.... Read More
Dr. Daniel Pompa is a respected leader in the health and wellness space, educating practitioners and the public on the origins of inflammation-driven disease, the therapeutic application of the ketogenic diet, fasting, ancestral-based health approaches, cellular healing, and detoxification. Although trained as a chiropractor, his authority is rooted in his... Read More
- The top ‘health’ myths that are keeping you sick
- Why diet alone won’t get you well, and what you should eat
- The importance of ‘adaptation’ at the cellular level
- The truth about hormone imbalance and why taking hormones won’t solve your problem
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Detox, Diet, Fasting, Feast And Famine, Health Coaching, Hormesis, Hormones, Microbiome, Mitochondria, Nutrition, ThyroidLaura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Welcome back to the conversation at the Restore Your Mitochondrial Matrix Summit. I’m your host, Laura Frontiero. I’m bringing you experts to help you boost your energy, fix your health, so you can build the life you love. Today, I have a special guest, he’s really gonna kick this off for us, Dr. Daniel Pompa. Hi, Dr. Pompa, welcome to the summit.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Thanks for having me.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Oh, I’m so excited. You know, I wanted to bring you in on this conversation because you’re an expert in cellular healing. In fact, you’ve even wrote a book called the cellular healing diet. And you’ve built a successful practice and you’ve helped thousands of people really identify the root cause of their illness. And then you focus on helping correct and eliminate that thing. And then optimizing from the cellular level. I wanted you on this summit also because we’re gonna be talking to a lot of experts in specific categories. Like mold experts, like parasite experts, like nutrition experts. I want you to bring this all together for us and set the pace of what our listeners can expect when it comes to healing. And you’re gonna be dropping some truth bombs and helping everyone make sense of this. So welcome to the summit.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, no, I love this role if you will, to do that because look, if somebody’s watching this or me… I mean, look, no one’s watching this to learn more about the mitochondria, right. I mean, you know, great. You know, let’s learn the science, no people are watching this to get their lives back. People are watching this ’cause they’re going like, “I’ve done everything, I still don’t feel well.” You know, “Help,” right. That was me, you know, that was me years ago. That’s how I got here, right. That’s how I teach doctors around the world everything I learned. Here we are, right.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Here we are. And you know, a lot of people have a story like that, where they were unwell, the alopathic medicine world couldn’t get them better. They really had to become their own detective, learn as much as they could and finally heal their bodies. So we’re bringing all those people together on this summit, and fortunately for our viewers, we’ve got solutions here. So kick us off with telling us why everyone focuses on the wrong thing with healing, mitochondria decline, health? Where are we going wrong?
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Well, first of all, you know, Dr. Google could be the big answer, right. You know, first of all, things get stuck on the internet and in our space that I could speak to directly, right, and it just doesn’t leave. So the myths around detox, the myths around, you know, you can just go diet and you know, this diet, that diet, right. There’s so many myths because it just doesn’t leave the internet, and then it just doesn’t go away. I mean, I’ve been teaching doctors for almost 20 years about detox. And I can tell you, I feel the same questions about the same myths that I have 20 years ago that I do today, because it just doesn’t go away. So therefore in our space, it leads people into these traps, bad roads, whatever it is, instead of to the truth. So summits like this, I feel always, you know, or where people really can land in a better place and bypass all the myths that are out there.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
So share us some of those myths. I know that people wanna know
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
what is on the internet right now that’s not true?
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Oh my gosh. Okay, so we can start with diet, right. “This diet is the diet,” right. People, you know, people just camp in their diet because here’s why, because it helped them, right. I mean, “So I switched to a plant-based diet and I got my life back.” “I’m a vegan now, I’m a vegetarian.” “Oh, paleo’s the way to go,” right. And I believe their story, it’s true. When they switch their diet, they do in fact feel better, get better. But here’s the problem, the myth is, “This is the diet.” The myth is, “This is the diet I need to stay on the rest of my life.” And I can tell you right now, it’s the biggest mistake you can make. Now I can present a lotta science around that, and you know, might bore you to death, or we could just go, “Well, let’s look at every healthy, ancient culture that’s ever been on this planet.” And I can tell you this, not one of them have been a vegan, vegetarian, paleo, keto, meaning they’re forced into dietary change. Diet variation is something I’ve been preaching and teaching for a long time. And in the short of it, it’s this, when you switch diet, that’s the magic. It forces, it’s called hormesis. We won’t get into the science of hormesis.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Oh, we have hormesis experts, just listen,
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Great, yeah so-
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
listen to Ari Wenton. Like there’s people on here that are talking about hormesis, so we got that covered.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay, so it’s just we create a stress, like exercise. You don’t get stronger in the gym, it’s the adaptation to the stress of exercise. Hormonal adaptation, microbiome adaptation. All the adaptation is the magic. Diet is no different than exercise or anything else, or hot cold baths, all of it. You have people talking about all of it, all of it’s great. It’s only great if you adapt. Hot/cold, cold is only good if you adapt. If you don’t adapt, it’s horrible. Exercise, if you don’t adapt to exercise, you’ve overtrained and you actually caused harm. No different. Diet change, you adapt to the change of the diet, your microbiome changes. You can’t fix a microbiome, here’s another myth I’m gonna go into, by just taking bacteria and pills. You can’t do it, you have to stress the microbiome. It gets stronger, it adapts, it creates diversity, and thereby you create a hormone optimization. So the point is, diet change is the key, that’s myth number one. And I started into myth number two, it’s just, you know, one of my gut things.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Well, I gotta say something here, I gotta say something here. So I’m so glad you just said this because people live and die by their diet. “Carnivore is the best.” “Vegetarian is the best.” “Vegan is the best.” “Paleo is the best.” “You should eat this, you should never eat that.” And this takes a lotta stress off our viewers right now. Like, “Oh my gosh, you mean to tell me there’s no one right way to do this and I can actually listen to how my body feels? And I might wanna eat this for this period of time, and then if I start craving this over here, this other healthy thing, you mean that’s okay?”
Dr. Daniel Pompa
It’s the magic. Listen, there’s permission. I teach also something… Well I, you know, like ancient cultures, and I visited one in Africa three different times. They were one of the last hunting gathering tribes still, and they came out of the mountains because of a drought. They were fasting to maintain their food supply, which was very little.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Amazing.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
And I had taught fasting and fasting strategies since the 90s. Fasting is kinda in vogue now, but I was into it when no one was into it, right. These vegan, vegetarian, natural, hygiene side people were into it. And you know, I had nothing in common except fasting cures, you know, it helps the body heal itself, right. But the point is, they just came out. If they had kill, man, they were paleo all the way and then keto all the way. When they didn’t, they were foraging or they were fasting. But I also teach not just seasonal changes that ancient cultures were forced into, but I also teach feast spam and cycling. Meaning that you need the feast… This is what I remind people today. The feast isn’t important, it’s the fast. Because now fasting, everyone’s intermittent fasting, and I’m all about fasting. But the feast literally, getting off your strict low carb or whatever you’re on and having a high healthy carb day, is as important as the fast day. And what I find, especially women with thyroid conditions and hormone conditions, they oftentimes need more feast. And the feast will transform their hormones oftentimes more than the fast. However, we also need famine and fasting as well. The variation is the magic, and I teach that weekly, monthly, and seasonally.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
This is amazing. I wanna highlight one more thing about food before we move on to the next myth. But the concept of, “Let food be thy medicine.” And you know, you and I both have some pretty strong opinions about this. Yes, food is important, it’s healing. You need to change your diet, you can’t get well. But it’s not going to get you out of the hole that you’re in alone, you need more. So you know, you can’t eat your way out of this in most cases. Talk about that.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
In the old days maybe you could, right?
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yeah.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Change your diet, you know, most conditions would get so much better, right. Today, it’s not so simple. I was just at a conference. I was telling you this. And now all these people here in front of me, 1000+, and the question I asked was, “How many people here eat better and feel that you eat better than all the people you know, your friends, your family?” And like every hand went up, right.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yeah.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
“How many people here still don’t feel well, and feel like you’re still not where you wanna be?” Same hands went up. So then the question was, “Is diet enough today?” And every head started shaking, right, “No way.”
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yeah.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
You know, there is another reason why the mitochondria problem, pandemic is going crazy, it’s not just diet. Now, diet is part of my solution, I call it mitochondrial fitness. If we stress the mitochondria, the good ones adapt and get stronger, the bad ones don’t adapt. It’s called mitophagy, where the body gets rid of them and creates new ones. Okay, that’s part of the solution. But if we don’t get to the cause of what’s really affecting the mitochondria, then I don’t care what diet changes you do. I don’t care if you do my diet variation strategies. Feast, famine, all of it. You still won’t get well, you have to get upstream of the cause. And it’s probably part of another myth.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Okay yep, so let’s go into that. Let’s go into the next myth, and we will come back around and make sure we cover what the cause is, what most, you know, integrative functional practices may be missing. So what’s the next myth?
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay, so I mean, if we’re moving into that, right, then we can get into, “All right, so Dr. Pompa, what is it then? What do I need to do to get my life back,” right? Obviously if you’re here, the mitochondria makes energy, right, but there’s another method, it’s not just energy. So I’m gonna open up a can of worms here. The other major function of the mitochondria is cellular surveillance. Someone’s gonna talk about this, right, so I’ll just highlight it, is my job here.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
So cell danger response, cellular surveillance?
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, exactly.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Okay, yeah.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
So part of it is, okay great, make energy. But the other part that we didn’t learn in school, you know, doesn’t matter how many years of school you didn’t learn it. But its job is to be like, “Uh-oh, threat. Let me shuttle the energy outside of the cell, let me signal your hormone receptors to blunt them so you don’t hear them anymore.” So then what do you feel? Low energy, brain fog, you know, maybe anxiety. All these things go on to save your life.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yeah.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Because the other part of the mitochondria is that’s its job. Okay, so-
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Wait, let’s unpack that a little bit. So what you’re saying is, a virus comes in, your mitochondria actually stop energy production because that virus is gonna take the energy from your mitochondria and thrive on it and grow. So is that what you’re saying?
Dr. Daniel Pompa
That’s what I’m saying.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Okay.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
So and then it sends signaling molecules out, damps and pants are some of them, right. Okay, it doesn’t matter, but these go out and they signal your immune system to react and to deal with this situation, right. But here’s the problem, many of which we find in the thyroid because the thyroid’s the canary in the coalmine. And then the immune system, ’cause that’s its job is to activate your immune system, sees them and it starts attacking. And then it starts making antibodies against your own tissues, and the thyroid is some of the first symptoms. So let me just quickly give an example of this when it works normally. Because this is meant to happen, right, you get the flu… Now this could be neurotoxins, like heavy metals, mold, virus, bacteria. These are the causative factors that are very alarming to the system, right, to save your life. But let’s use the flu. The virus comes in and it sees it and says, “Threat,” right, “We gotta do it.” So the mitochondria sends all these signaling molecules out. How do you feel? You feel lack of energy. You feel like, “Uh, I just wanna lay down,” and that’s exactly what you do. And you do that for a day or two.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yeah.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
And the threat is gone. It upregulated your immune system, your immune system beat it back. Inflammation comes down, brain fog goes away, energy comes back. Great, all is wonderful. Okay, but then what if it stays locked in this response, right, because it still feels a threat? And who does stay locked in this response, where their energy’s still down? They have brain fog, they have anxiety, they’re not sleeping, their hair is thinning. Okay well, something just went and happened in the last three years called COVID. This is such a weird virus to your immune system. It was a very big threat ’cause it’s a manmade virus, and it was like, “Oh my gosh, what is this?” But yeah, I had COVID, you probably had COVID, pulled out of it no problem. Right now, we have an untold number of people who are in post-COVID. So I call it post-COVID stress response, PCSR, is really what’s going on with all these people who go, “I don’t feel great.”
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Long COVID then, post-COVID stress response?
Dr. Daniel Pompa
AKA long COVID.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yeah.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
But the reason I named it PCSR, post-COVID stress response, because they’re in a cellular danger response. So why did we come out of it and they didn’t? Here’s why, because no one really evaluated where their stress bucket, physical, chemical, viral, emotional, whatever it was, how full it was. And when their body saw this incredible threat, it went into the post-COVID response, right. It went into this, “I’m gonna save your life.” The problem is it had such a high level of other toxicities, emotional, physical, chemical, that it’s now stuck there. Still trying to save your life. Literally at the cellular level, your mitochondria is shutting down. Your mitochondria is sending energy out of the cell where you know, you don’t have its function, and it thinks it’s doing the right job. So now we have more of an epidemic, people. And by the way, Google it for fun, who is most affected by this cellular danger response post-COVID, so PCSR? Women under the age of 50. Ah, what do they have in common? They’re already stressed in their thyroid. Well, what do thyroid people have in common? It’s not a bad diet, it’s toxins. The thyroid’s the canary in the coalmine, very sensitive to the overload of toxins in the body. The first gland and organ to actually, you know, start to give you symptoms. For there’s estimated 27 million thyroid cases in this country. Here’s the problem. Half of the real number, only half is diagnosed. So double that number because thyroid conditions, you go 10 to 20 years not being diagnosed with the symptoms of thyroid problems, which are really neurotoxic issues. Thinning hair, no energy, brain fog, constipation, and you think maybe it’s my thyroid. You go to your doctor, they do the blood test, “You’re okay.” No, you’re not, your thyroid was not functioning from, you know, but it didn’t show up in your blood test, which it won’t for probably 20 years.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Let’s call this myth number three.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
So myth number two is mitochondria only produce energy and that’s it, and there’s more at play. So let’s move into thyroid here, we have a couple thyroid specialists talking on this summit. And this is a myth, that your thyroid level, when you go to your doctor and your TSH is normal, that everything’s okay. So keep going.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay, so the TSH is the gold standard of how we diagnose somebody. By the way, before 1971, you know how they actually dealt with thyroid cases? They would say, “Oh Laura, okay, so we’re gonna try this, and how are you feeling?” “Ah, I still don’t feel good.” And they would adjust what they’re doing based on how you feel.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yeah.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
It doesn’t happen that way anymore. They base it on one thing, the TSH.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yep.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
By the way, there’s not one study that actually links TSH levels to normal thyroid function, it’s the crazy thing. Because it doesn’t, there’s so much more to it, right. So we have that problem right there. We’re basing everyone on, you know, TSH levels or healthy thyroid function. No, because here’s the problem. Let’s say finally after 20 years of having thyroid malfunction, and finally your blood work is off. So you go to your doctor finally and he goes, “Oh, here, we found your problem.” ‘Cause now your TSH is, you know, whatever the number is, right. You know, let’s say it’s 12, it’s out of range. Say then he gives you T4, which is the inactive thyroid that needs to be converted to T3 ’cause there’s a problem there potentially. But he gives you T4 and let’s say he gives you Synthroid, it makes your TSH levels better. So you come back and he’s like “Success, you must be feeling wonderful?” And you go, “No, my hair’s still thinning, my skin’s still dry. I still can’t lose weight, I got this fat.” So the fact is the symptoms didn’t get better, but your blood work did. Okay, there’s two reasons why. Maybe the T4 didn’t convert to T3, because it has to convert to T3, then the T3 attaches to the cell and makes you feel good. Just keeping it simple, right, that’s how it works. If it can’t convert, it doesn’t matter that the T4 level went up and you know, made your TSH levels look normal. You have to convert. Oh, where does most of that conversion happen? Your liver and your gut. So what affects the liver and the gut? Toxins, toxins block that conversion. So who’s getting to that problem? Okay, another problem, what if it does convert? Then the thyroid hormone, that T3 that it converts to, the active form, it still has to attach to a receptor on your cells and dock there, and get its message in the cell. And then it gets its message in the mitochondria, everything’s wonderful. You’re burning fat, you feel good, brain fog’s gone.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yeah.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
But what if a toxin is making its way into the membrane? That’s where they go, the membranes of your cells are fat, and it drives cellular inflammation. And that blocks your hormone receptor. Yeah, that’s called hormone resistance. A good example is insulin resistance. Plenty of insulin, plenty of the hormone in the blood, maybe too much. But the point is, it can’t get its message in the cell, you don’t feel good. So we have all these reasons why you could have normal blood hormone levels be, you know, not diagnosed or diagnosed. Taking medications, still not feel well. Toxicity, certain toxins.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
So let’s shift into toxins now, because I think it’s a myth that all you need to do is exercise, sleep, hydrate, de-stress, you know, eat well, and you should be able to solve all your problems. And so let’s talk about toxins and let’s get into the myths of what detox really is and what detox really isn’t. And again, this is an overview. You’re gonna hear people dig deep into all these topics on this summit. So definitely go in and seek out the topics and listen in, but let’s get an overview of what are the toxins, and what’s the problem here?
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, great. Okay, so we’re gonna hit probably a lot of myths here, right. But you know, so I have a saying, you have to fix the cell to get well. That’s how I got my life back, right. When we look at why people don’t feel well, it’s really a cellular problem. If we look at why people can’t lose weight, it has more to do with hormones than it even does the food you eat, right. Shocking, but you know, weight loss resistance is a new problem, right. Because see, if we say it’s about hormones, then taking hormones should be the solution. As you just heard, it’s not. You know, your blood levels of hormones could be normal or even high and still not get its message in the cell, right. So what I just drew here, is here’s the cell on every cell of these receptors. They get hormones, and I just used thyroid hormone because we were talking about it. Has to dock onto and get its message in the cell. It’s like a cell phone. I don’t care if you have a thousand dollar cell phone, if it can’t reach the tower, the receptor, you’re not getting your message through, right. You have to find its way to a tower. If something’s interfering with that, good luck, right. So we have to ask ourselves, what is interfering most often with these hormone receptors? If we are in a hormone pandemic, and again, I could use estrogen, I could use testosterone, I could use insulin, go down the list, they all have to dock to these receptors, right. So the question is, we know that inflammation is the cause of all these diseases, whether it be cancer, diabetes, thyroid conditions. But it’s cellular inflammation, meaning that inflammation of your cells blocks these receptors. So then the next logical question is what is driving it? Yeah, elevated glucose can drive it, et cetera, from a bad diet.
The number one are the specific toxins that make their way to the cell and drive inflammation. So cellular toxicity is the problem for why we have a hormone epidemic. And then of course these toxins end up. So when your cells are inflamed, you can’t get good things in and you can’t get bad things out. Now, why is that a problem? Because now the perfect diet, your supplements, the nutrients are having trouble accessing the mitochondria in other, you know, things that are in the cell that make you feel well, right. So what ends up happening is you can’t make enough energy. Your mitochondria is not getting the fuel because of an inflamed cell membrane. Oh, and by the way, the mitochondrial membrane is even more fragile than this fatty membrane out here, so it’s affected. But here’s the bigger problem, toxins start building up in the cell and now they can’t get out. And so now you’re basically making toxins in your cell. So when I said you have to fix the cell to go well, more specifically, this is where real detox is. You have to detox the cell to go well. I’ve spent 20 years educating doctors this, and about more myths. Just by doing a sauna, just by doing what I call poopers, colon cleanses, et cetera. It’s not real detox, real detox is here. And not that those things are bad, but if you don’t fix this, you don’t really detox.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
So what are the toxins that are in there? Give us like a list, quick list. And we’ve got an expert talking about all these toxins on the summit, so what are your-
Dr. Daniel Pompa
You’re gonna hear people talk about, you know, plastics that, you know, mimic hormones, right. That we call endo endocrine disruptors, right, which they are. I call ’em obesogens, right. But let me focus on three that other experts will unravel, okay, and there’s a lot of myths around these three. First of all, most practitioners, even in functional medicine, if that’s the word we’re using, or alternative medicine, still miss. But the bigger issue is how to actually get rid of them. Okay, heavy metals, I think that everybody watching this at some point has thought they may be having a heavy metal issue because they are nasty neuro, meaning they get into your nerves and your brain which is the biggest nerve of all, neurotoxins. Heavy metals are typically either tested incorrectly or definitely detoxed incorrectly. Because people go, “Oh, I did a heavy metal detox.” “Oh you did, how long did you do it for?” And I would ask, “What did you do?” “Well yeah, oh gosh, long time, three months up to six months.” Okay, it took me years to get inorganic mercury outta my brain that accumulated there from two major sources, three. My mother who had a mouthful of amalgams, the draft study is a study that showed that ladies, the number of silver fillings in your mouth that contained 50% mercury is proportional on autopsies, pretty accurate into the baby’s brain. So if mom had eight fillings, on autopsy studies, they would see a certain proportion of mercury already in the brain. Not just in the brain, you know, where they find most of it, the pituitary, hypothalamus. Ah, that controls your thyroid, your adrenals. When I was sick, I spent years chasing my adrenals and my thyroid trying to help them, never to truly get well. Till one day I realized the problem’s here, I just didn’t know what. I also wore contact lenses. The saline solution, all the way to the early 90s had mercury in it. So I was putting mercury in my brain via my eyes.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
My gosh.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
These fillings gas mercury vapor into the brain, crosses the blood/brain barrier. So no wonder I couldn’t fix my hormones or endocrine system. Now when you detox mercury, you have to get what’s here, and that’s part of what I teach, right. You know, because you’re not gonna do it just by a sauna. And here’s a big myth. Carella finds mercury in a Petri dish really well, but when you put it in the microbiome, it doesn’t. So another myth that out there that, you know, Carella is the metal magnet. In a Petri dish, yes, but not with the microbiome. So it’s not necessarily what you think when it comes to detoxing heavy metals.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
What’s the next toxin?
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Exactly. Mold is a major, major nasty.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yep.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
That causes hormone disruption, drives massive cellular inflammation, blunts hormone receptors. I didn’t write leptin on there, but leptin’s a hormone that, you know, tells your body to start burning its fat source and controls appetite. Most of the receptors are in the hypothalamus, which I said, that’s where so many neurotoxins affect. So we have to deal with mold correctly. Here’s the big problem, like mercury. “I tested my home and my home’s fine.” You did an air test, which is, you know, inaccurate up to 99%. I mean, so forget about that test. And then it’s like, “Oh, and then I thought I had mold and I did this urine test for biotoxins.” Sorry, that’s typically food-born molds, and really isn’t a reflection of your mold load. So not good there. “Oh, and then I did some detox.” Not so simple, because biotoxins are in your membranes, into the deep tissue, we have to detox right. And I’ll just give the third and we can go on from here. hidden infections, big, big problem, and people don’t even address it. Meaning that where you had teeth extracted like a wisdom tooth, it heals over. 25 years later, you have this hidden infection with no pain that’s basically bringing your immune system, like down here and creating hyper immunity in the wrong places. Drives autoimmune, drives cancer, and yet these things go unnoticed. But if you go to your dentist, even if he’s a biological dentist and say, “Could you check me for these things called cavitations, these infections jaw?” He does a regular x-ray and goes, “You’re fine, don’t see anything.” Wrong test once again. And then even if they identify it, typically it’s not dealt with correctly. And then the post detox isn’t done at all, let alone done correctly. All these myths, all these pitfalls, and hopefully it is a good one to start with.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yeah, and chronic infections of course. You’re giving one example of cavitations, but you can have chronic infections all over your body.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Of course.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
And they’re just smoldering and you don’t realize it’s there. So these are huge topics that we’re covering in great detail on this summit. Any other myths that you think are really important to cover right now at the beginning of the summit for people to look for in the interviews?
Dr. Daniel Pompa
You know, I mean, I do want people to understand that… Look, I’m a fan of diet change, you already heard that I’m a fan of diet, you know, period. I’m a fan of exercise, I’m a fan of saunas, you know. But if you don’t get to the cause, you’re not going to get your life back. As you go through the summit, please understand that, right. You know, then we can take great supplements, right, but we have to get to the cause. One of the things when I’m teaching my doctors is if someone’s not getting well, doing all these amazing things… And most people watching this can have their list. “I’ve changed my diet, I made sure.” I’m taking this supplement, I’m taking that , I’m doing that.” Okay, there’s something still upstream and you haven’t found it. Here’s what I want you to hear also, there’s a perfect storm. You don’t get sick just from heavy metals, you don’t get sick just from lime. I mean, now that we are able to test lime, you know, these infections better, not perfect, but better. Now we know that there’s places, populations that 90% of people have lime. Why aren’t they all sick? See, because it’s other stressors that allow your immune system not to be able to deal with it. And I could say the same for Epstein bar, candida, parasites. It’s not just parasite.
Everybody wants to find the one thing, I do too. So if you’re watching this, I’m sure it’s you, we do. We want it to be as simple as that, it’s typically not. Typically it’s three stressors that come together. I’m gonna date myself, but the George Clooney movie, back in the 80s, “The Perfect Storm”, they did a good job explaining that it was three weather fronts that come together, and that’s what causes a catastrophic storm. When two weather fronts come together, it’s a bad storm. But when three weather fronts come together, it’s catastrophic. In my days of doing this and helping people with unexplainable illnesses and symptoms, the thing I find is and train doctors to do is find the perfect storm. What typically is three stressors, physical, chemical, or emotional or some combination? It could be living in a moldy home, heavy metals, and you know, maybe you had a root canal that was in there, you know, for 20 years. You have to find all of ’em, deal with all of ’em, then the genes will turn off, then the microbiome will get better. Then you know, all these things that you’re gonna hear so much about in this summit, how important the microbiome is. Yes, it’s true. But if you have mercury fillings in your mouth, good luck fixing it. If you’re living in a moldy home, good luck fixing it. If you have a root canal or a cavitation where so many of these bacteria are going down into the microbiome, good luck fixing it. So the point is hear the message, find your cause of the factors, it’s typically a perfect storm.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Wow, that’s a mic drop.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
As we start the summit, I think that if people go into this summit with that, looking for that, “I’m gonna find my perfect storm,” bingo, you’re gonna get the most out of this.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
So let’s give people hope, ’cause they’re probably thinking right now, “Oh my gosh, I’ve got, you know, amalgam fillings.” You know, “I know I lived in a house that had mold.” So let’s give them hope because you have a lot of success stories, and so do a lot of the practitioners on this summit. So if you find your root causes, your perfect storm, your trifecta, what can you expect to achieve on the other side of that?
Dr. Daniel Pompa
You know, we wanna over complicate everything, and the internet and all of it makes us even more confused, right. And I hear out there, there’s so many myths, right. And detox and everything where they’re talking about diet. But it’s this simple, if you remove the interference, the body heals. God put in every one of us, an incredible innate intelligence that knows how to heal every condition. I have seen the impossible heal. But here’s the deal, it won’t happen if there’s interference into that innate intelligence, I don’t heal you, none of the doctors in this summit heal you, your body does. And if you find the interference and remove it, the body will heal. I am living proof of that, right. And I have watched it again and again and again. The mistake is to go back to it, is not uncovering the interferences, you have to do it. That’s simple, that’s a simple message, right. But I think this, I think that you have to empower yourself, and I think that’s why I love these summits and love doing them. You have to empower yourself to teach yourself the process, never rely on a doctor to do it for you. The good news is the people that I’ve helped, I’ve taught them what I’ve learned over the last 20 years. And there thereby you can figure, you know, you can do it correctly yourself. But you have to participate in your own rescue, I’m a believer in that. I love when the people that I’m helping participate. And just, you know, don’t take what I say for granted, you know your body. But let’s remove the interference, the body will heal.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Oh my gosh, participate in your own rescue. You should trademark that.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, maybe someone has.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Someone has it, yeah. Thank you so much for just giving us a really great outline of a lot of the topics we’re gonna be covering on this summit, and just sharing with people if you really get down to that cellular health, the cellular detox and support that, this is where the healing is at. This is why I did this summit, this is why I did the mitochondria summit, it is all about cellular health. If you don’t fix that piece and if you don’t remove the blocks from your cells being damaged, all of the healthy eating in the world, all of the sleep in the world, all of the, you know, drinking purified water in the world, all of that is not going to get you where you wanna be. So this is about deep cellular detox, it’s really where it’s at. And detox is not a weekend juice cleanse.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
So glad you said that, right. “I detox, I did a 10 day juice cleanse.” It’s like, if it were always so easy,” that’s what I say. If fixing the gut were always so easy as taking probiotic, if it were always so easy.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yeah, those are good things, they’re healthy.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
I have to, I’d take bacteria, it’s good.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
I think a juice cleanse makes people feel good because of hormesis and because you’ve done a shift in your eating, like we talked about right at the beginning of the summit. All of a sudden your body is like whoop, shift, and all of a sudden you feel better, but it’s not actually pulling toxins outta the cells.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
It’s true.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Yeah, this is so good. Thank you, Dr. Pompa. And tell us, before we go, tell our audience where they can find you. You work with practitioners, you teach practitioners, you also work with patients, you have lots of free content on your website, you have programs people can go through. So where can we find you?
Dr. Daniel Pompa
On this topic, I’m doing for the next whatever, I did a free webinar, a training actually. If you go to cellulartraining.net, you can watch it. And I talked more about what tests you actually can help find cause. And my website, drpompa.com.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
Okay, great. Thank you for being here and thanks for sharing your wisdom.
Dr. Daniel Pompa
Thank you for having me.
Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC
You take good care now.
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