Stacking PEMFs For Maximum Results

Mike Watson

Okay, Bill, thank you very, very much. Yeah. So to answer your initial question, how I, you know, really, how do I use PEMF differently? Let’s go back about seven years. For my part, I’m a serial inventor. That’s what I’m really, really good at. I’m pretty hands and everything else, so I delegate people much better than myself. I’ve had a company that maintains, cleans oil refineries using robotics, and other innovations that I invent and patent. And I use vibration resonance to remove fouling from the inside of pipes. And after my tenure with the company, I realized I was getting a little bit, a few more aches and pains than expected. I had a broken neck, collarbone, broken collarbones, rotated cuffs, SLAP tears, broken back and forth places. Hip joint displaced, two cysts my kidney, 50% restriction in my arteries, ACL replaced on my knees, broken ankles, and thumbs, and things, et cetera, partly from extreme sports, partly because of the work. And so I thought I’d look after myself for a while. And I happened upon a colleague of mine in Germany, who said, you know, you’ve got a big cyst on your elbow at the moment, try this ultrasound thing, he said. So I put my elbow on this mat, and two hours later, the cyst had disappeared, all but disappeared. That surprised me. Didn’t think much more of it. As you know, a one off, you don’t think that much about it. And a few years later, I’d need for my ACL, which had snapped, and had swollen up. And I used what I then found out to be PEMF on my knee, and shown up two hours later, the swelling went down, and I was able to bend it for about 50%. 

And I was really amazed. A few years later, I had a major ski accident, broke my back, a lot of injuries. And with that, I had a lot of pain in my kidney, and my ribs. And I sought out somebody with a single PEMF machine. And lo and behold, an hour later, I had no pain. This is after a few years of taking pain killers, six to be precise, almost every night, just to sleep, because of the pain. An hour later, no pain. A week, a month went by, no pain. I immediately went to a manufacturer, got my air ticket, and bought a machine, brought it back, and that was it. And selfishly, I used it for myself, just this one machine, on different parts of my body, an hour at a time. And then of course, guests and friends would appear. And one friend came in, and he’d been crushed under building. Another guy came 10 years ago, and obviously a lot of aches, and pains, and arthritis. So I gave him one hours treatment, and it was amazing. And by coincidence, my wife had a, my then wife had a spa. We worked together at the spa. And within a year, I was treating her patients, and lots of friends, and clients, just for fun with one machine. Then I thought, what if? What if I used more than one machine? Because I have multiple areas of injury. So I thought, well, let’s try two machines. So I tried one in each knee, and it worked just as well. Then I tried three machines, and then the manufacturers, all manufacturers I spoke to were challenging me, said, well, hold a second. You shouldn’t use three machines, or two machines, even, because these are medical grade technologies. And I asked, well, why? And the answer came back, well, it’s something we just don’t do. From an inventor’s point of view, that’s not really the right answer you’re looking for. It was the case of nobody had really pushed the boat out. And as an inventor, I really go to the extreme. And so I thought to myself, I’ll try it on myself for about a one two, eventually it was three years. I bought four machines, then five, then six, and I tried seven machines, then eight machines, then nine, and eventually I got to 10 PEMF machines running simultaneously. Say again?

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

At one time? At one time?

Mike Watson

All at one time, all at once, all 10 machines, using various intensities, and various frequencies, and durations, and dwell times. That’s very important as well. I didn’t just glibly go into this. I researched the type of frequency, the sine cosine wave. If it was a shark tooth, if it was a horizontal wave form, because each part of our bodies resonates at a different frequency. Now, we are all human beings, but we are all different. The density of a bone is different. You might have somebody who is obese, and somebody who is slim, therefore their resonance, the frequency will change pertaining to their requirements. If both an obese person, a slim person, have issues with, let’s say their kidneys, or their ribs, the density of their tissue plays a major, major part as to what frequency and intensity, and dwell time you use on that particular area. So I started using this with on animals, first of all, and myself, of course. Occasionally if I used a frequency too high, for example on my chest, I found it was a bit of an achy feel. Not a dangerous ache, but certainly something. Certainly I would wait a little while, and do it again with a different frequency, and I’d try all these frequency. And this was for three years, almost on a daily basis, because the results I was getting were these amazing, and these spectacular. 

This was beyond spectacular. And I say this because what happened during this treatment, was I ended up being almost horizontal for a few months, because of my back. And I decided to get myself a full health check. I wasn’t getting any younger. And to be fair, the PEMF was making me do things that really I didn’t expect to do. As you said, Bill, was like putting a cape on. I was doing things, I was playing tennis and football at the age of, you know, 58, 59, that a 25 year old would do. I was playing table tennis, and badminton and tennis as I used to do, and pushing the limits. So I got myself a health check, a heart scan, my knees, density, bloods, et cetera. And my cardiothoracic surgeon said after the CT angiogram, he said, sorry to tell you, Mike, you’re gonna have to be on statins, and blood pressure tablets for the rest of your life. Caused a bit of a shock, and I asked him why. And he showed me the CT scan, showing me 50% of my artery was clogged. Whether that was hereditary, or my bad diet, who was to know? So I looked at the frequencies. I did a trial on a pig, long story short, two pigs, actually, with a similar defect, let’s just call it. And I noticed under about 3000 magnification that the cells started resonance. Now, the cells, as we know, when they clump together, it’s called the ruler effect. And what I had, I had blood in the arterial wall. It hadn’t created macrophage inside the actual, the tube itself, or the pipe itself, it was actually in the pipe wall. So I was lucky there, but obviously it was like a bulge on a tire. It was pushing into the internal ball of the pipe, therefore creating what we in the industry, in the refineries, call Delta P, back pressure on the pump. And so similarly, this is back pressure going onto the heart. So I thought to myself is if what I used to do in the oil refineries to unblock a crude oil pipeline sometimes, or remove what’s called a heat changer from a pipe. 

I used to resonate the outside of the steel chamber in which this thing was inserted, and resonate the actual exchanger itself in a different frequency. By doing that, it broke, the shear force broke the bonding, if you like. The bonding, the binding. And I could pull this heat exchanger out of this big steel chamber. And that’s what I tried to do for myself. So I looked at the frequency, I looked at, in a lab, see what frequency would actually have impact on the blood, on the fine tissue arterial wall, also on the epithelial layer of skin. And so it was interesting to see the different dynamics of the cells at different parts of the body. So I looked at that, and I thought, yep, I’m quietly confident that I could use this pillow on my chest. And I used it at a certain, let’s say a bespoke frequency and intensity for about half an hour to begin with. And I continued to do this for about seven months. I went back maybe even longer, perhaps a year, just on and off, maybe once every week, once every two weeks, because sometimes it did ache. It was a bit concerning, but it was not, it’s almost like it felt like a bruising. So I just played with the frequency a little bit. Seven months to a year later, I think it was, I went back to my cardio surgeon with my wife, and his first words were, “Nurse, I think I have the wrong details in front of me. “Could you check?” So I gave him my national insurance number, name, he says, wow, he says, this is unusual. I haven’t seen this before. And he says, you tell me, Mr. Watson, you haven’t been taking your statins, and your blood pressure tablets. And I said, no, not at all. 

At the very beginning, I did, it was too painful for my fingers, the side effects. So I stopped taking it, and used PEMF. My diet hadn’t changed, hadn’t changed my lifestyle much at all. But sure enough, I saw the CT angiogram, and it had not, well, it actually had reduced from 50% down to 20% occlusion, which was pretty outstanding. It’s beyond spectacular, as I said. He offered to give a video interview. In that interview, he said, typically this increases 20% year on year. And I would’ve had to have a stent by now. So I was really amazed. He suggested we have double blind trials. I’d use multiple machines, I might add. It’s not just one in my chest, but I also did multiple machines around my body. Because my theory and practice is that you might, wherever your ailment is, if you, for example, you have a crepitus, and cells stuck together because of injury or whatever in one area, that’s all well and good. You can treat that area. But don’t forget your heart is pumping these blood cells throughout your body, entire body. And within a few seconds, it’s coming around full circle to the same area. So it could almost create a log jam of other rule, or bonded cells together at that point. So what I prefer doing is treating the entire body and organs, and other areas where you might have crepitus. Because you want to make sure blood that passes here has gone through, and gone past some kind of magnetic field, so as to increase the cellular potential in these blood cells, and thereby pushing them apart, as some of you might have seen on video clips, et cetera, when under dark field microscopy. And that’s the main reason why I do that. So I do that for every ailment. So now the last.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Let me stop, sorry, second, one clarification. What intensity ranges had you been using in the different equipment?

Mike Watson

The intensities I’ve been using were between, I started with one to three Hertz at an intensity of about 99%.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Now, what was the–

Mike Watson

This is, this emerged.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Gauss?

Mike Watson

That, sorry, say again.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

What intensity, in terms of actual gauss?

Mike Watson

I’d have to look at my papers.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Oh, guess, or make it. So if you’re doing it.

Mike Watson

The MAS system, the MAS Austrian system.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Right.

Mike Watson

The gauss on that.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Peak, the peak of the whole body pad is about 25 gauss. And the peak–

Mike Watson

Yeah, it wasn’t that.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

And the peak on the pillow applicator is a hundred gauss.

Mike Watson

Correct. The, I’d say, this is such a long time since I’ve actually seen the recorded details. I suspect it was half of that, if not a quarter of that, because I prefer treating over a longer period of time to limit the perceived risk, or the actual risk. So I’d say five gauss maximum, if not less, but over a prolonged period of time. The results were suitable for me to continue doing it as a preventative measure. And I would say that using four machines simultaneously was the optimum protocol for using the system. I didn’t use any high gauss like the Tesla. I didn’t use anything as high as the Teslas that you have yourself there, of which I’ve got numerous over here. I used 10 to between two Hertz, three Hertz, and then up to 10 Hertz. I did play around with 100 Hertz, but the depth of penetration wasn’t as deep. That said, you don’t need to go that deep either. And I was quite happy around about the five Hertz area, ones that have achieved the 50% down to 20% restriction. And the logic behind that, I guess is like a tube or a pipe in the industry, whereby you have layers of fouling inside a pipe, and the closer it gets to the tube wall, the more tenacious it gets. And I’m presupposing that’s probably the same case in the, with regard to either plaque inside the pipe, or within the actual wall of the artery itself. I’ve yet to check that, yet to re-look that, look at that in detail.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

No, I think that that’s absolutely true. So as you move away from the wall, what you get is you get what’s called vibrant deposits. So at the wall itself, there’s attachment. And that attachment is based in the far, in a sense, it’s like scarring, or fibrosis. But as you move farther and farther away from the wall itself, the plaque becomes thinner and thinner. And so you have what’s called hard plaque and soft plaque. So toward the center of the blood vessel, then the plaque becomes more pliable, more softer, and more amenable to breaking up.

Mike Watson

Okay. Yeah, makes perfect sense. Because as I say, my history for 37 years is in the oil industry, with heat exchangers in pipelines. And that is typically the case, where inside of the formation of fouling, in this case, my arterial wall, it’s very, very soft and squidgy. And that’s easier to remove. That said, of course, there are cardiothoracic intervention surgeons using what’s called shock wave therapy, I met one in London. And it’s ironic we’re using the same terminology, you know, I clean tubes and pipes in refineries, and he cleans tubes and pipes in the human body. Yet our terminology was very, very similar. And the shock wave therapy, I’ve used something similar to unblock crude oil pipelines. But using ultrasound with ultrasonic transducers, so to speak, these probes that go into the artery itself, try to create a sound wave, a shock wave inside. Now, that’s all well and good if you, I hope I’m not digressing too much here, but with shock wave therapy, you really want something that is brittle, not ruberoid, not soft and pliable, because that simply absorbs the sound waves. You want something that actually creates impact.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

it apart.

Mike Watson

This is what. Yeah, exactly. So the shock wave therapy, I may be speaking out of turn, but I don’t think it’s the right way to go. It has to be from the outside in, and using soft manipulative waves, or wave forms, and then increase periodically, and just monitor as you go along. And the key to this, I’ve been fairly regimented over three, four years, almost on a daily basis that I said, as long as you monitor, measure and record, and archive your details, you end up generally being very, very successful in whatever you’re attempting to do. A lot of medicines and technologies are rarely monitored, measured, and recorded over a long period of time, except in the pharmaceutical industry, I guess, for five years, when it’s FDA required. But the PEMF is so varied, and it’s the gauss output, the intensity, the frequency, and you can do this very, very safely. So I did this really, really slowly, really over a long period of time, to get the specific frequencies that matched my body, and that I was happy with. And yeah, on a regular basis, I’d say I used the multiple machines, up to eight or 10 machines, probably once, once every three, four weeks, but I use three machines or four machines regularly, almost every other day. And my arthritis is next to zero. I have no pain. I just played a tennis, an hours tennis match with a top player yesterday. Yeah. I’m beyond, I’m lost for words, the results I’ve had from this. I can go on with other results if you want me to. But yeah, I’m very, very impressed with it.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Let’s go back to shockwave for a second. Shockwave therapy is increasing in popularity. It originally started with what we call lithotripsy for kidney stones. And the idea with the kidney stones, and with lithotripsy, is that they had to actually put people under anesthesia, and monitor their hearts while they were doing the lithotripsy. So what they would be doing is they’d be banging the body with these shock waves. And the purpose of the shock waves was to break apart the stones.

Mike Watson

The method, the only method, shockwave method that I know of to break up stones, is one with using a laparoscope, which actually goes in with a biopsy forceps, and actually grabs hold of the stone, and then applies ultrasound shockwave therapy, as you say, specific to the stone. Now, the stone is very, very brittle. And by using high intensity shock waves, it’s able to shatter the stone, meet the desired frequency for that. It’s a variable frequency until the pinpoint frequency is achieved, and then it just breaks it down. So that biopsy forceps, actually like a claw, grabs it, and then breaks it up, and then slowly is able to bring it out through the scope, the baroscope. I don’t know of any external, I’m unaware of any external shock wave therapies, ’cause I would suspect that that would be detrimental to other parts of the body, unless it was somehow focused.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Had to be done under anesthesia. It was usually done in a bath.

Mike Watson

Aha, yes. Makes sense.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Bombard the abdomen with this. It was not so good for higher stones, because then you damage the kidneys as well. That’s called shock waves lithotripsy. This is as opposed to the kind of lithotripsy that you’re talking about, or shock wave therapy that you’re talking about, which is very local. And that still requires an invasive procedure to be able to do that. Although shock wave now is used on tendons and ligaments, and wrists, and elbows, and so on.

Mike Watson

So and it stimulates the blood flow.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

It does stimulate blood flow because again, you’re stretching the tissues, that you’re pushing the tissues, but also causes swelling. And PEMFs that are, one of the benefits of PEMFs for your blood vessels, is that they not only, they not only decrease the clotting from happening, but they also do something called fibrinolysis. So fibrinolysis means they actually break down the fibroid. So when you develop a clot in your leg, your body then has to try to get rid of that clot by doing fibrinolysis. And PEMFs have the dual action of preventing the clotting in the first place, and then they additionally do the fibrinolysis. So all of those benefits happen from the PEMF simultaneously, basically.

Mike Watson

Without question, because you notice shock wave therapy, it requires a sound wave of sorts to try and penetrate the body. And eventually, obviously over time, over distance, sorry, it diminishes exponentially. And when you use shock wave, all it’s doing, it’s just bombarding it, as you say, in order to try and loosen up. The beauty of PEMF, and I call it enhanced PEMF, or intensive PEMF, is that it not only, it not only oxygenates the body by virtue of breaking open the stock cells, the ruler effect from these stock cells, by increasing the cellular potential of these cells, in layman’s terms, to any viewer, it’s like having crocodile eclipse on your, the battery of your car, giving it more energy. Because the moment your cells starts sticking together, you are not allowing these cells to release the oxygen and nutrition into your body. Now, of course, if you’re the kind of guy, or girl that you know, has 10 MAS bars, and five pints a day, you are gonna have a lot of sticky, sticky blood, and your cells are gonna stick together. And the analogy there would be, you’ve got a mini, and you’re trying to tow a truck. So your truck is your body. 

It’s too large, it’s cumbersome, it’s not working properly, and you’re trying to move around, and pulling it with a small miniature car. So the engine is overloaded, the battery will get drained after a while with all the force, and the exertion. So by increasing the cellular potential, it opens up these cells, delivers the nutrition oxygen to the much needed organs, much needed oxygen to the organs, and helps them perform. But if you keep on, and that’s just periodic, that’ll only last for a little while, you have to in parallel, look at your lifestyle and diet. Because if you keep on putting sticky stuff into your blood, your blood cells will naturally flow very slowly down your bloodstream and stick together. And as they go through your bloodstream, there are single capillary pipes in simple terms, that goes to your kidneys, your liver, et cetera, and your organs, and these clumps of cells, these capillaries are only single cell capillaries. So your blood cells literally just go down one pipe, and then it delivers oxygen on a regular basis. We have trillions of these cells in our body, but if there’s clumped together, they’ll simply float past this one single pipe that is meant to have this oxygen, near this blood cell, and it’ll keep on going. So we all suffer from the same problem. And you’ll find slim people, less obese people, with a healthy diet, tend to have watery blood, let’s just say, less viscous blood, where your blood cells can float randomly, and indeed, and nutrify the organs by doing so.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

I totally agree with what you said, and that’s coming from an engineer, who is not a physiologist or a medical doctor. So even from an engineering perspective, you know, they certainly overlap. I’d like to go back to the intensity question. And the moderate treatment time. So you’re doing a lot of treatment time. And one of the reasons that we need to do a lot of treatment time when we use lower intensity systems, is because they need to produce their effects of gradually over time. And so when like lithotripsy, you need a very strong lithotripsy force to be able to create the reaction that you need, or whether you’re working with pipes. So frequency by itself is not enough. It’s gotta be the right intensity of the frequency as well. Right? So I’m gonna share my screen for a second, if you don’t mind.

Mike Watson

Yeah, yeah. Go for it.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

So there is, here we go. Here’s a graph from a research study that looked at people who had had PEMF therapy for fractures that wouldn’t heal. So these are fractures in the forearm, fractures in the tibia, fibula, or fractures in the scaphoid, which is in the hand. These are fractures that commonly don’t heal properly, once you have them. It’s not that common, but it’s common enough, and it’s usually a disaster. So what happens is the treatment for this particular system was it’s an FDA approved device, which is about 15 pulses per second. And they used 18 gauss. Right? And they were recommended to do 10 hours a day. So what happened is they interviewed 70, 170 of these individuals, to find out whether they had done 10 hours a day of treatment, and then looked at how long it took to heal. So what they found is that people who did greater than nine hours a day, healed 76 days earlier than the people who did only three hours a day, or less than three hours a day. So they took 112 days to heal their nonunion. People who did six to nine hours a day healed 41 days earlier, people who did three to six hours a day healed 29 days earlier. And then the people who did three hours or less a day took 188 days, in other words, six months, to heal their fracture. So the treatment time becomes critical to healing these kinds of fractures. Now, some people are much more severe than others, so there’s a lot of variability there. But this gives you some data about some comments that people make frequently is you can over-treat. And this is the point that you’re making, is it’s hard to over-treat, actually, especially when you’re using lower intensity devices. In this case, again, this system was 16 gauss at a time, applied right over the fracture site. So the more treatment time, the faster the healing. And there’s no, there’s basically no risk.

Mike Watson

I agree, because the experience that I’ve had with treating quite a few people with breaks, complete fractures as well. And I have a few video testimonials. I’m not for video testimonials where, I’m entering a field that as an engineer, as an inventor in my field of oil and gas, the medical field is I’m not as familiar with, but with an inventive research mind, I really do go into the details, especially when it’s self pity for myself. But after three years of daily experience and research, I started helping those that have had broken arms, limbs, et cetera. And the results were astonishing, mind blowing, where you’d often hear, they would show me the x-rays. And I kinda read some x-rays, but it’s not my place to read an x-ray, but I simply say, well, let’s try this intensity. This is what I feel would be, I’ve read your book, I’ve read other metadata and peer reviewed papers, and sure enough, the average healing time was worst case twice as fast, best case four times, five times faster. And this was after probably just four treatments, but fairly long treatments, low intensity, low frequency. And the cliche less is more, I’ve often heard mentioned that, you know, some people argue intensity is better. Some say frequency is better. With respect, I’d say neither are true. It’s a true combination of the two dependent on the ailment, and dependent on the patient, and their conditions, and their environment. So many, there’s a plethora of circumstances that you need to address. And not just say not mine’s intense, better than that one. Mine’s got better more frequency, and that’s better than this one. In my opinion, that’s wholly untrue. And it just distracts from the true worth of the technology.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

And I think that’s a really important point. So whatever system you have, and you may have a high intensity system, you may have a low intensity system. If you understand what you just said, is the problem determines what you need to do for it. And then you have to understand the technology that you have. Once you understand your technology, then you can adjust your treatment protocols to deal with the problem, and to get the best results the fastest. The good thing about PEMF therapy is it’s almost impossible to do harm. ‘Cause we use extremely intense magnetic therapy devices that are approved by the government to treat the brain for depression, and Parkinson’s, and multiple sclerosis, all sorts of other neurological conditions. And they’re using 4000, 7000 gauss machines. To a point–

Mike Watson

Yeah, yeah.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

To a point where they’re stimulating the motor cortex, and they’re causing the hand to contract by stimulating the brain. So that’s a very indirect action, they’re causing the brain to cause the hand to contract. They’re not stimulating the hand directly. You need a lot of power to do that. And then they’re taking that power that’s called a motor threshold, and they’re putting it over the front of the head, and treating the brain for depression, for example. So these have been found to be extraordinarily safe. 4,000 gauss magnetic fields that are beyond motor threshold. So it’s very hard to be, to do harm with magnetic field therapy. And magnetic fields are more likely to reveal a problem, than they are to cause a problem.

Mike Watson

I wonder whether a lot of people imagine the risk to be quite high, thinking that we are a static immobile solid mass. Whereas we are in fact, a living creature. We are constantly, ourselves are constantly reproducing. As we get older, they will reduce less, of course. And a good point in question, going example, I’ll give you a terrific example. A lady came in, a couple came in with their seven year old child who had a very, very rare brain glioma, a brain cancer. And they were out of sorts. They’d tried everything else and failed, trying to get a lot of funding to go to Mexico, China, trying alternative treatments. And as we, as many of us now know, chemotherapy tends to destroy more tissue than it saves, unless it’s pinpointed, et cetera. But that’s another conversation. And the reason why I know a lot about oncology is that I worked with leukemia research foundation. My eldest child had leukemia when she was two and a half, and had acute lymphoblastic leukemia. So I studied oncology like there was no tomorrow. And I worked with the professors, and the oncologists at the Great Ormond Street, and devised a protocol for my daughter. She’s a healthy, lucky 30 year old. 

But I was not so lucky. So when I hear about oncology patients, my ears immediately prick up. So I know what happens to the body. I understand very, very, in deep, a deep understanding of how the cells react to chemotherapy, to various wave forms. And one child didn’t make it because they used chemotherapy injected in the brain, into the brain. And I suggested with one patient, I said, well, why don’t we try the PEMF machines? But the protocol is morning, noon, and night. Not just once a day, morning, noon, and night. So I gave this gentleman to apply his daughter, she was about eight at the time. And she had about six months to live. That was the prognosis. And she used these two machines, morning, noon, or he used it morning, noon, and night. And nutrition was great. He’s a very, very disciplined individual, which helps an awful, awful lot. And they, she is now I think four years, still doing the treatments with these two machines. And in that time, I noticed there are a lot of, there’s a lot of head wear being made with wearable caps, using stimulated post magnetic field. That is without question, the way to go. And the reason why I’m so confident of this is I say very, very simply to people with conditions like this, cancer likes a little bit of oxygen. Cancer hates a lot of oxygen. That’s fairly, that’s it.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

That’s just that.

Mike Watson

It’s as simple as that. And so if you look at, take that analogy, and look at yourself in the mirror, and ask yourself, am I obese? Am I morbidly obese? Am I unhealthy? Do I oxygenate myself? Do I eat, drink the right thing at the right time? How do I eat? When do I eat? All these things need to have tick boxes against them in a kind of an Excel spreadsheet. And just see what kind of person you are, what environment you put yourself in. Are you in front of computer screen? Are you sedentary? Do you sit? Do you stand? Do you walk? Do you socialize? Do you drink? Do you eat sugar? All these different things. And this will dictate how successful a machine like this can be, and will be, over a short or long period of time. It’s incredible, the relationship is just so simple. I do it every day, and I see, I know exactly who’s gonna have success, 90% of the time. Who’s gonna have success with it, and who’s not.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Now for the children, when you were treating the gliomas to the brain, where were you treating?

Mike Watson

It was behind the neck, the area of the neck. So the pillow would be, the mass system would be behind the neck. And also on the mat.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Whole body.

Mike Watson

So I would make, the whole body, because I’d make sure we have six or seven nodes in the mat at low frequency, not high. And I’d make sure that he would double check the magnetic field, by putting it on her neck. Because the pillow’s magnetic field is strong enough to be, to resonate through the neck. And you can see with a simple magnet, the vibration, and just confirm it’s one to three Hertz, or 10 frequency, or 10 Hertz. We have to be mindful of the Hertz frequency, because if you do this too high Hertz frequency, late in the evening, it’s very difficult for the patient to sleep. A lot of frequency, you sleep like a log. It’s lovely to see.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Now, you use the MAS a lot, from what you were saying. I know that you do have the Tesla fit machines as well. How do you decide which one you’re going to use?

Mike Watson

When it’s a soft tissue condition, if it’s a neurological condition, for example, it might be fibromyalgia, I’ll always use the PEMF MAS system. Less is most definitely more. When it’s a musculoskeletal trapped nerve kind of situation, where they’ve had it for a long time, I use the Tesla fit, or the, I call it the big birther, for about five minutes, to kind of, you know, knock it out the ballpark, first of all. We have to be mindful, of course, the first two questions to ask is, do they suffer from psychosis, because of ill effects from recreational drugs? And do they have a pacemaker? These are very, very important things. I have treated somebody with a pacemaker. Not on their chest, of course, but down by their legs. The frequency is measured using a digital analyzer. And the frequencies are very, very low, at low intensity of frequency, sufficient to treat the legs, and the lower extremities, and nowhere near the heart. The Tesla fit, I tend to use on joint aches and pains. And then I combine it with the lower intensity MAS system. Because first one is there to almost like throwing rocks at a wall, with the MAS, it’s throwing pebbles at the wall. It’s a nice analogy, because you want to immediately get rid of the pain. It diminishes pain very, very easily in a short space of time, the Tesla that is, as does the MAS, but it takes half an hour to an hour. So I use a combination approach more often than not. Which is there’s a down side to that, which is cost. Because I was using two machines, are very expensive, the Tesla machine is quite expensive, as is the MAS, it’s like less expensive. But combined, which is the optimal treatment, in my personal opinion and experience, it comes at a cost sometimes people might not be able to afford. That said, for three years, I’ve been treating people free of charge. I don’t charge. Very, very little.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Well, you can afford to do that. Thank goodness.

Mike Watson

It’s nice to do.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Let’s go back to the pacemaker. That is a general contraindication, as is any implanted electronics. Although, and you should go with that rule, but you could determine whether the pacemaker, or the implanted electronic machine is MR Conditional. So the newest devices over the last five to 10 years, the newest, particularly over the last five years, they’ve been engineered to be able to withstand an MRI machine. And so these devices, the MR Conditional machines can go up to about 15,000 gauss.

Mike Watson

Wow.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

So if you have an MR Conditional device, you’re okay to use the magnetic systems that you’re describing. Now, if you go to a very high level machine, and there are some that go up to 10,000 or 15,000, then you might have to be more concerned. And of course, if you stay away from a pacemaker, you should be okay.

Mike Watson

It’s interesting. If you were to use a digital stress analyzer, and walk around an airport, for example, and you are to switch this thing on, the radiation, magnetic, electromagnetic fuel radiation that you get in the airport, exceeds that of these machines. Nobody ever questions whether you’re walking past these cameras, and you have a pacemaker. Secondly, when you’re sitting on a seat in a modern day car, have you engineers out there ever taken a car apart, and look at the wiring looms inside a car? You are constantly bathed in electromagnetic field from a wiring loom on a car, equal to that of a mobile phone. I use a mobile phone to my head, I measure it, it’s in a 2.5 Watts, you know, gigaHertz field. And yet you’re sitting on this, almost like for one to five hours driving, it’s insane. People with, or without pace makers, it has no detrimental effect. So it’s the, the intensity is key. The more intense, the deeper, the further the distance of this frequency that you are using will penetrate. So I think in that sense, I find that using low intensity, low frequency, is good enough over a long period of time to minimize any perceived, or actual risk. It’s just so low, less is definitely more when treating things like that.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Especially over the longer period of, over longer periods of time.

Mike Watson

Indeed. Yep.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

We’re at the end of our time here. Do you have any partying thoughts or comments?

Mike Watson

With inventor hat on, I do believe there should be a lot more double blind trials done. Organ specific. My cardiologist said we need to do double blind trials on the amazing result I had in my heart. Similarly for spines, I’ve injected stem cells, and platelet ridge plasma into my spine, and combined magnetic field, and seeing the results on the dark field microscopy. I do that before, during, and after, to see the actual cell structure before and after treatment on a big screen. I also would, I’ll be doing this myself regardless. And also I’ll be developing a wearable device specific for areas of the body. Because as I said, I have multiple issues myself, this is purely selfish. And I’ll be creating it. I have a research, my own Watson Innovation Center and Research and Development Hub, where I can do this, and act out my Tony Stark vision, to have my own research and development hub. And I got 30,000 students at my disposal, with Dresden University, and Imperial. And I would hope to develop a wearable, so that this too, because now FDA approved in many instances, will be not just curative, but preventative. And add to which this actually essential parallel is nutrition. Without a sec, that question, you can have a short term result, but you’ll not have a long term gain if you don’t match both with PEMF and nutrition at the same time.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

I totally agree with that. You can’t build a house without bricks and mortar.

Mike Watson

There you go.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

You don’t have the nutrients, you can’t fix and repair, and regenerate. I look forward to hearing more about your innovation. And we’ll have to stay in touch, so that we can help you to promote your devices, your next technology.

Mike Watson

I look forward to it, and I look forward to anybody asking, anybody who wakes up at three o’clock in the morning with box of milk, tray of chocolate on their lap, and can’t sleep, and thinking, I wonder if as long as it’s crazy, and seemingly impossible, I’d like to hear from them.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

So how can people get in touch with you?

Mike Watson

They can email me at [email protected], or give me a call on my mobile phone, UK 07825 888000.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Well, [email protected], @watsonmedical.com. Right? Mike dot Watson.

Mike Watson

Mike dot.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Medical dot com.

Mike Watson

There you go.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Thanks again, Mike, for taking your time outta your wonderful day there. And I think you’re in France, I believe.

Mike Watson

We are, indeed. Sunny, not so sunny today, but generally sunny south of France.

William Pawluk, M.D., MSc

Enjoy. Be well.

Mike Watson

Enjoy. Take care of yourself. Thank you very much. Bye bye for now. Bye bye.