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Molly Fini
Molly has long understood the connection between optimal health and natural living. Growing up on an organic ranch in Southern Idaho — a generation before the term “organic” became a cultural mainstay — she developed a passion for nutrition and wellness. It was at the University of California Irvine, studying Psychology and Nutrition, where she began to understand that the emotional is as important as the physical when it comes to health. Refining her focus to the intersection of mind and body, Molly became an unwavering advocate for her clients — viewing herself as a guide in each person’s individual health journey.
Nathan Crane
Hello everybody. I’m Nathan Crane. Welcome to the Global Cancer Symposium 2.0, we are here at the Cancer Center for Healing, in Irvine, California. I am joined by Molly Fini, who is a doctor of natural medicine, and she has a very unique specialty here , that she’s gonna share with us. I’m actually gonna act as a patient here in a moment, and share with you this incredible technology that she’ll explain to us, which maybe I’ll just do that now. Why don’t you tell us a little bit about what you do here.
Molly Fini, DNM
Okay.
Nathan Crane
How you help people with cancer, and what is this bio scan that I’m about to go through.
Molly Fini, DNM
Well, this is, it’s like biomeridian testing you know, the meridians in your body. It’s kind of like chi, its the energy, and it’s the fastest transmission of information that we can get from our body. And they’ve actually done studies where they injected radioactive isotopes into somebody’s meridians, and they saw the speed of light. I mean, it was so quick, it’s faster actually than the speed of light. And they also injected those into veins, and it went through, but not as quick. So we know that this is the fastest transmission of information, as far as getting information from our body if something’s going on like imbalances.
Nathan Crane
So what you’re saying is that our ancient ancestors, specifically in the East, in places like China, they understood this ancient medicine, like traditional Chinese medicine, for example, they knew what they were doing?
Molly Fini, DNM
They knew what they were doing. Yes. They knew what they were doing. They really did. And I’ve actually studied in China. I’ve been there a few times and studied with a doctor, this is Dr. Wong. He comes from a line of 1200 years of physicians, and he specifically sells us Chinese herbs that his family has been using for 1200 years. And that’s what I test the cancer patients on, or everybody really, ’cause I look for an overgrowth of abnormal cells as opposed to circulating tumor cells. I look for an overgrowth of abnormal cells because if I find something like that in a specific organ or area of the body, we know that something’s cooking, something’s going on.
Nathan Crane
It could be cancer, it could be something else.
Molly Fini, DNM
Yes, absolutely.
Nathan Crane
Sure.
Molly Fini, DNM
Absolutely. So we just never know what it is until we do the testing, and Dr. Connealy gets all the pieces of the puzzle, and this is a very important piece.
Nathan Crane
How accurate is this testing?
Molly Fini, DNM
I would say 90, 95%. She says it’s at least 95.
Nathan Crane
Pretty accurate.
Molly Fini, DNM
Because there’s a lot of things that I can find that will not show on blood tests. You know, I look for parasites, I look for heavy metals, fungus, viruses, bacterias, you know pollution. I have, like I was telling you before, I have 40,000 items that are imprinted into my database. Plus I can test you on anything that’s on this plate. So anything that’s within the circuit of this testing, this machine, I’ll move this, it’s part of the whole circuit. So that’s how I’m able to get information.
And I mean, like, if you can see over here I have a lot of herbs. So, you know, I use herbs, I use, you know, Chinese medicine. We use supplementation, I have parasite medication, fungus medication mold, you know, whatever your body needs. And there’s no way that I know until I test you. And then through a process of elimination, your body tells me when it needs to balance that specific organ tissue or system.
Nathan Crane
We know so many people today, millions and millions, probably billions now, are plagued with things like parasites, chronic infections,
Molly Fini, DNM
And pollution,
Nathan Crane
And pollution, heavy metals, all these things that are leading, and actually creating chronic diseases like cancer.
Molly Fini, DNM
Well yes, and I have every cancer patient I’ve ever tested has some type of a fungus or candida. Because if you think about it, it’s like a sponge that holds all these toxins in your body and you can’t heal until you get rid of it. It doesn’t mean if you have candida or a fungus that you’re gonna get cancer. But if you think about it, it is a breeding ground.
Nathan Crane
And it’s instigating chronic inflammation. We know chronic inflammation causes cancer, right?
Molly Fini, DNM
Yes, yes. And it’s interesting, I just wanna show you this really quick and this really helps the patient understand. Of course I don’t have it, this right here.
Nathan Crane
Sure.
Molly Fini, DNM
So what it is, is this is like, cancer is a 12 year disease, and tumor formation is in year eight. So there’s a lot that goes on in our body before a tumor is formed. It takes 1 billion cancer cells. So, this is the way that I help a patient understand what’s going on in their body. This is kind of like the invisible, and this is oftentimes things that conventional medicine, or blood tests, or you know, CAT scans, all that can’t see.
Nathan Crane
The eight years leading up to your actual cancer diagnosis.
Molly Fini, DNM
Right.
Nathan Crane
In some people it’s even longer.
Molly Fini, DNM
Well, yeah, exactly, because this is right here at this level where conventional medicine, I mean, conventional testing is done and performed, but think of all this time that something has been going on in your body and you are not even aware of it. And this is where I pick it up. Well, I can pick it up here too, but I can pick it up from the very beginning, because everything starts in an
energetic or emotional level, and it goes onto the meridians and into the, you know, the nervous system and then the cells. So that is a lot of time lapse before. In a lot of chronic diseases, there are no symptoms. And the thing–
Nathan Crane
Including cancer. Well, a lot of cancer, you don’t have many symptoms.
Molly Fini, DNM
Absolutely. Cancer, the tumor is only a symptom of cancer, the disease. So if you get that tumor removed, that’s why it comes back or manifests in other ways.
Nathan Crane
You didn’t treat the underlying condition.
Molly Fini, DNM
There was a reason, there was a reason it came, whether it was emotional, whether it was–
Nathan Crane
And it wasn’t the tumor.
Molly Fini, DNM
No, no But it took a long time, you know?
Nathan Crane
So one thing I just want you to make clear possible if this is right, is, you know, we know that everything is energy, right?
Molly Fini, DNM
Everything.
Nathan Crane
Everything in the body.
Molly Fini, DNM
And that’s why I specify to people that everything starts in an energetic level. And then it goes from there anyway, excuse me.
Nathan Crane
Yeah, yeah, so cancer is energy, cancer cells are energy, cancer stem cells are energy, your meridians system in your body is a system of energy, is an energy system.
Molly Fini, DNM
Right, absolutely.
Nathan Crane
And so you’re tuning in, what we’re doing here is tuning in into that energy system to tell us what’s going on with the body.
Molly Fini, DNM
Yes, absolutely. That’s exactly what we’re doing.
Nathan Crane
Well, that’s awesome. Makes sense to me, I hope it makes sense to everybody tuning in, but let’s, let’s go ahead, let’s see what this, what this tells us.
Molly Fini, DNM
Okay, so I’m gonna have you hold it. You don’t have your phone in your pocket.
Nathan Crane
I actually took it out ’cause I know that–
Molly Fini, DNM
‘Cause we don’t want any interference.
Nathan Crane
I had a feeling.
Molly Fini, DNM
Or medication or anything, you know? So you hold this in your–
Nathan Crane
I think these keys nowadays–
Molly Fini, DNM
Yeah, take, it’s electrical, take that.
Nathan Crane
Some kind of chips in them.
Molly Fini, DNM
So hold this in your left hand. So this is like I was explaining the ground or the negative. This is the positive. I’m gonna introduce this to your body, and this is just water and this transmits the information. So I get this wet, and so as you can see here I’m just gonna test different parts.
Nathan Crane
Just kidding, I didn’t feel anything.
Molly Fini, DNM
Oh my gosh, that really scared me, okay. So just relax right here. And I’m testing, your hands represent different systems. Now, you know, you wanna be in the green as much as possible. This tells us that you’re balanced. If you’re below the green, that means that it’s chronic or weakened.
Nathan Crane
Okay.
Molly Fini, DNM
Your hands represent systems like endocrine system, lymphatic, nervous system, digestive system. Your feet represent the organs. And so we’re just going to do this, part of this hand, but now look at that.
Nathan Crane
That’s in the green.
Molly Fini, DNM
That’s in the green. Now the first one wasn’t this one was, this is. I can usually tell by testing somebody, what kind of lifestyle they have. You know, pretty much.
Nathan Crane
Green.
Molly Fini, DNM
Green. I like that. And you can see right here. That was your, so this is representative of your teeth.
Nathan Crane
Oh, you’re going down the different, the meridian points.
Molly Fini, DNM
Yes.
Nathan Crane
Okay.
Molly Fini, DNM
And look, this is pretty good. I mean, this is really good. So now this is lung right here. This is your lungs. So we’ll just see,
Nathan Crane
Good, now we’re green.
Molly Fini, DNM
Good.
Nathan Crane
What was the first one that was kind of weak?
Molly Fini, DNM
So this one, it was lymphatic, but let’s just go back to the very beginning, throat and tongue.
Nathan Crane
Interesting.
Molly Fini, DNM
So a lot of times what happens is somebody–
Nathan Crane
Just a little bit of green.
Molly Fini, DNM
A little bit below the green.
Nathan Crane
And I had a ton of throat and tonsil problems as a kid growing up. Like lots of strep throat and lots of antibiotics.
Molly Fini, DNM
Well, see, that’s, what’s interesting is because a lot of people, like I find like Roundup in people and they’re like, “I don’t know where I get it.” And then I start talking about it. They grew up on the farm, and there was all that spraying. This will pull up things that is just shocking that people, you know
Nathan Crane
This says large intestine, colon. That’s pretty weak. That’s just below green.
Molly Fini, DNM
That’s pretty weak.
Nathan Crane
Which, you know, it makes sense. I’ve been dealing with some digestive stuff and healing.
Molly Fini, DNM
This is nervous system.
Nathan Crane
Nervous system, okay, interesting. It’s a little weak.
Molly Fini, DNM
Yeah.
Nathan Crane
Circulation in the green.
Molly Fini, DNM
Circulation, that’s great. Now this, it says allergies, but this is actually your immune system.
Nathan Crane
Okay, that shot straight up to the green.
Molly Fini, DNM
That’s perfect, perfect.
Nathan Crane
Good immune system.
Molly Fini, DNM
So you have a great immune, this is immune system also. So that’s great. Your immune system is really good.
Nathan Crane
Cellular metabolism, entire body. Okay, that’s really low. What is that about?
Molly Fini, DNM
Well, your metabolism, there’s some reason that your metabolism is really low right now. I don’t know if it would be normally.
Nathan Crane
I just had lunch, would that have anything to do with it?
Molly Fini, DNM
Yeah, could be. So when somebody tests with me, I don’t let eat.
Nathan Crane
A few hours makes sense.
Molly Fini, DNM
A few hours before, because then your body’s working on that.
Nathan Crane
It’s working on digesting.
Molly Fini, DNM
Because this test, the cool thing about it is, it’s gonna pick up the last thing that happened in your body. So it goes from the inside out, from the feet to the top, and from the last thing that you did, or the last illness you had, you know and it goes backwards like that. So that makes sense. And normally I wouldn’t let people like, you know you have to drink a lot of water. There’s an actual protocol that I have them follow because I get a big difference in results.
Nathan Crane
Makes sense.
Molly Fini, DNM
So this is your endocrine system. And so this is your thyroid, and this is where a lot of people are a little bit low.
Nathan Crane
Oh wow, it shows really low.
Molly Fini, DNM
And then this is your pituitary gland.
Nathan Crane
That’s pretty low too.
Molly Fini, DNM
So the, the pituitary gland is the master gland. So this is something you’d want to look at. And then your heart muscle.
Nathan Crane
Looks pretty right close to green.
Molly Fini, DNM
Close to green. And then this is small intestine, which looks great.
Nathan Crane
That’s in the green, that’s good.
Molly Fini, DNM
And the last one on this hand is brain and gut.
Nathan Crane
It’s a little low.
Molly Fini, DNM
So that’s a good example of what it is, and then, so what we do, so let’s just pretend like we did the whole thing.
Nathan Crane
So you do their whole body, or you would do the feet, you look at the organs, you look at.
Molly Fini, DNM
So now let’s just see if you don’t mind putting this on film, let’s just see.
Nathan Crane
It’s fine. My life’s an open book for you all right now.
Molly Fini, DNM
Okay, so we’re gonna see what balances you. So that’s a good indication, it went right up there. So there’s this product that I’m gonna explain to you. Let’s see if it went in. I’m gonna see.
Nathan Crane
So that went to green when you checked, which one were you checking?
Molly Fini, DNM
You have candida.
Nathan Crane
Okay.
Molly Fini, DNM
Which is very common especially if you’ve had antibiotics. There’s a lot of things that cause candida. And you have fermentation. Let’s see, I’m just gonna go through here. That was a little bit weak, let me just check it. And understand, I’m not diagnosing you. I’m just telling you what’s coming up. So you have fermentation that’s caused by the candida.
Nathan Crane
Okay.
Molly Fini, DNM
And then let’s just look at, so this is just an example, I just wanna look.
Nathan Crane
And are you looking in, which point is this in the meridian?
Molly Fini, DNM
So this is an organ point that really, the reason I use this a lot, it’s just because it kind of goes everywhere in your body. And it’s a really good point. So what you’re gonna see now is some red squares. These squares represent different products or lines of products. Remember I told you, I have about 40,000 items that are imprinted into this or recorded into the database.
Nathan Crane
Either herbs, plants.
Molly Fini, DNM
Everything, supplements, everything, and so through a process of elimination. your body’s gonna tell me what it needs in here. If it goes up to the green, when I test you we know that there’s something in here, your body wants. If it doesn’t go into the green, we know that we’re gonna get out of that and go into a different category, set of categories. Let’s see. So, there’s something. So now it’s gonna start eliminating what it knows that your body doesn’t need.
Nathan Crane
Wow, and it’s cycling through 40,000 different–
Molly Fini, DNM
Well not, probably, this is probably, see how many squares, that’s either how many there are, or how many categories there are.
Nathan Crane
Gotcha.
Molly Fini, DNM
But I can keep going through a lot of different ones. But there is something your body wants and it’s kicking out what it doesn’t.
Nathan Crane
Oh, so you keep testing again, and again.
Molly Fini, DNM
Until it gets down, it hones in on the one.
Nathan Crane
And there’s two squares left.
Molly Fini, DNM
Now we’re gonna see what this last one is.
Nathan Crane
It’s in the green.
Molly Fini, DNM
So you need lymphatic drainage, which makes sense.
Nathan Crane
Cause it said lymphatic system.
Molly Fini, DNM
Remember that first one that we did, that was lymphatic. And so it’s saying you need a lymphatic drainage. And if you have toxins in your body we have to find a way to get them out. So like, let’s say that you have this bathtub full of water but it’s all toxins, and all this toxins are going into the tub. You can stop, like stop, turn off the faucet, but you still have all that. So we need a way to drain it out of your body. So we know you have candida. So we’ve gotta find a way, so lymphatic came up, and that was the first thing we tested for. So let’s just do a quick thing so I can show you.
Nathan Crane
When candida is dying off and you’re removing it out of your system, it goes through your intestinal tract, right? Does it also drain out of your lymphatic system?
Molly Fini, DNM
Everything drains out your lymphatic system.
Nathan Crane
Sure, normal cells, and toxins.
Molly Fini, DNM
Right, exactly. Now this, you see the boxes are bigger, this is a different category. Now let me ask you, do you ever eat sushi?
Nathan Crane
No, I used to, but I went to a plant-based diet long time ago. 11 years ago, probably.
Molly Fini, DNM
Well, parasites are coming up, so I know you have parasites, which is very common. And parasites–
Nathan Crane
I got giardia in a lake, in Montana. I’ve been dealing with that for a while.
Molly Fini, DNM
That’s interesting.
Nathan Crane
So it’s so maybe it’s trying, maybe it’s identifying the giardia, or does it get specific on what kind of parasites?
Molly Fini, DNM
It might not tell me exactly what, I mean, it will, if I have longer to test you, but right now I’m just trying to do kind of a baseline to see what’s going on but you definitely have parasites, and parasites and worms and all that they’re very, very evolved. They’re actually the top of the food chain. They can actually morph into other parasites if they can sense that you’re trying to like expel them from the body. Plus they eat candidas. So it’s like you have this ecosystem going on inside of your body. And so it’s like, this is what I do, and this is what I try to do to help people because if we can start getting this out of your body then your body is healthier and it can heal.
Nathan Crane
So you found out, so now what do we do? What do I do to get rid of that? Tell me what to do.
Molly Fini, DNM
So what I do is, I do things in phases because our body can only handle so much. Yeah, you’re finished with this. And so I would write up a protocol for you. I would, most people, I would have them do a cleanse. Well we have a lot of cleanses, but I have a favorite just because I know how effective it is because I do this 3D body scan too. And I’ve been able to scan people before the cleanse and after the cleanse, and it cleans their heart, their arteries, their all their organs. It’s really good. It’s the 21 day standard process cleanse. I love that cleanse.
Nathan Crane
Do you go on a specific diet at the same time? Is it just liquid?
Molly Fini, DNM
Well, no, it’s not just liquid. It’s actually, I have this form that I have people fill out that I would have you fill out. And I have them highlighted. I have a list of things that I don’t want people to eat. Even people will tell me, they go, “Well, I eat really, really healthy.” And I’m saying, “Okay, well I just want you to highlight anything on this that you eat.” And they highlight almost everything. And they go, “Oh!” Because it’s foods that you would think that are healthy. But when I’m trying to get rid–
Nathan Crane
Give me couple of examples.
Molly Fini, DNM
Bananas, peanuts, cheese.
Nathan Crane
I don’t do cheese. I eat bananas and peanuts.
Molly Fini, DNM
So peanuts are just a fungus. So that’s feeding your candida. Bananas have five times the sugar of any other vegetable. Okay, let me think of some more things. Squash, sweet potatoes, potatoes, fruit, berries are okay though.
Nathan Crane
So you want low-glycemic load fruits, or more high nutrient things like berries but not high-glycemic fruits, with more fiber.
Molly Fini, DNM
Exactly, So we’re trying to, yeast, anything with yeast.
Nathan Crane
More vegetables.
Molly Fini, DNM
A lot of people drink kombucha and think that that’s really healthy and it’s not, it’s full of sugar and yeast, and its–
Nathan Crane
What about nutritional yeast?
Molly Fini, DNM
That’s okay.
Nathan Crane
‘Cause it’s dehydrated, it’s not alive.
Molly Fini, DNM
That’s okay, but just like regular yeast, it’s just gonna feed the fungus.
Nathan Crane
So the yeast that’s in kombucha is actually gonna contribute to have candida?
Molly Fini, DNM
Yes, big time.
Nathan Crane
Really, interesting.
Molly Fini, DNM
You don’t drink.
Nathan Crane
I do, I used to have a laboratory in my kitchen, in Carlsbad, California. Here’s the funny thing, though. It helped between apple cider vinegar and homemade kombucha, It actually helped clear up heartburn.
Molly Fini, DNM
Oh good.
Nathan Crane
Which was good, but that was just cause I, you know I was coming off of an animal diet. Like you see a lot of meat and potatoes and things like that. But not knowing that it was contributing to the yeast, to the candida. So I gotta stop kombucha?
Molly Fini, DNM
You gotta stop it. You gotta stop it.
Nathan Crane
Okay, I’ll do it.
Molly Fini, DNM
So those are just some examples, and you know, rice obviously, any kind of grain, including oatmeal, bread.
Nathan Crane
All grains?
Molly Fini, DNM
All grains.
Nathan Crane
Even quinoa?
Molly Fini, DNM
No, you can have quinoa but just, you know more limited amounts. And I give my patients a list of foods, a huge list of foods that they’re allowed to eat because they get pretty scared when they see that they’re like, “What am I gonna eat?”
Nathan Crane
How effective is this in terms of going on a cleanse like this for candida, parasites?
Molly Fini, DNM
It’s extremely effective. And if I knew we were going to be doing it in here I would have shown you a before and after test, but it’s extremely effective.
Nathan Crane
By the way, we just stormed into her office and said, “Hey, can you test this?”
Molly Fini, DNM
That’s exactly right.
Nathan Crane
Well thank you for being a willing participant in this.
Molly Fini, DNM
It’s really effective if people follow, this is the example I give, if they take what I give them to get rid of the candida and they follow the diet, they’ll get rid of it. It’s as important following the food plan is as important, like let’s say you’re diabetic, and you’re getting insulin shots but you’re still eating cake and cookies and stuff. It’s not gonna do you any good. And it’s the same thing. People can go on this very strict protocol and they take everything exactly the way they are, but they don’t really follow the food, it’s not gonna do any good. So I tell them, “If you’re not gonna eliminate these things from your diet, don’t even waste your money or time, just don’t even do it.” And I mean, there is a huge, huge difference. People can sleep better, they can think better, they lose weight, and I’m not even having them do it for those reasons. I’m just trying to get that toxin out of their body so they can start healing. Those are just like great side effects. They’re like, “Oh my gosh.”
Nathan Crane
So I wanna do this cleanse. Can I do it?
Molly Fini, DNM
Yes you can.
Nathan Crane
So I wanna say, if you want to work with Molly or learn more about this, go to cancercenterforhealing.com. Thank you for being a great–
Molly Fini, DNM
Oh you’re so welcome.
Nathan Crane
Host of this process and for the good work you do. And you nailed it. I mean, I’ve been dealing with some parasite issues, and I’ve been doing all kinds of cleanses and things for years since I got giardia in that lake, swimming in a lake in Montana. And so many people, especially with cancer, as you said, are dealing with parasites, and fungus, and bacteria and so forth. So we’ve gotta get these things out of our systems.
Molly Fini, DNM
Absolutely, and we can find them and help you, and I make homeopathy. So I can make homeopathics, whether it’s homeopathy, Chinese medicine, or just supplements, you know, your diet. There’s just so many things that are little pieces of the puzzle that we put together, and help people.
Nathan Crane
Awesome, well thank you so much. And thank you all for tuning in here to the Global Cancer Symposium. Make sure to share this with your friends, family, anybody who needs this information, and consider getting yourself tested for any kind of infections you might have that can, once you get them out of your system, you can really help your body to do what it was designed to do, which is heal itself.
Molly Fini, DNM
Absolutely.
Nathan Crane
So thank you so much, be well.
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