The Science of Remote Healing

Master Chunyi Lin

So thank you Tom. Thank you for the invite and I’m just so, so happy to know you in my life and you are my dear, dear friend. So we have been together for so long. I’m looking so forward to our time working together to help the world to become a better place for every species of life to enjoy so thank you, thank you.

Tom McCarthy

No, thank you, Chunyi. So Chunyi grew up in China before coming to the United States. And Chunyi tell us a little bit about your journey ’cause you weren’t a qigong right from age one or two. You had to go through a journey to find this passion of yours, this purpose of yours. Give us a little glimpse into what that journey looked like.

Master Chunyi Lin

Oh wow, so my journey is too long. So I think it’s impossible to tell you my journey in 10 minutes, but anyway, I will give you a little bit background about how I became a qigong practitioner like who I am now. I grew up in China, as you know. At that time in the cultural revolution happened, I was at age of eight. And overnight, the whole country was in a mess. So my parents were captured and put into jail and my brothers and sister and I got kicked out from the house and wandering in the streets for three days, no food. And our nanny, an older lady, which we adapted as our grandma and took care of us. 

She brought us to wandering in the streets for three days, we knock at a couple friend’s doors and as soon as they saw us, they just say, “No, no, no, no, we cannot take you” because we were almost like the enemies of the country at the time. So no people were there to accepted us. So then finally, we got somebody who was a landlord lady and bravely enough took us in. So we stay in her place for seven days. So up to the seven days and a group of friends of my father, who my father help in his life, they risked their life to get into the town to find us and then they brought us out of that town which was in a big, big chaos. So then we escape. And during the time while we were trying to run away, the so-called devoted friends of my parents caught us and they wow, that was the most scary.

Tom McCarthy

Friends of your parents? Friends of your parents caught you? Wow.

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah, they caught me in. They put that rifle guns at my head and my sister’s heada threatening us to kill us because at that time if they didn’t do that the government might go after them because they were so close to us. So for no reason, for no reason they did that. That was the only political reason. So then the other guy who knew a little bit about us, he said, “Well so we are trying to find the parents, but not the kids, let the kids go.” So then they signal us to run and of course I held my sister’s hand and we ran as fast as we wish she would have four legs. And then also finally we escape out of the town. And of course, later on we join our parents across a harbor to the other side of the harbor. 

Then, after the cultural revolution was over, we were still not doing very well because we were still considered as the bad people so other people insulted us. As a kid at school, I was bullied every day in the school, the books, there’s my backpack and my books and just torn when I came home many, many times, and I wasn’t beaten black and blue. So then what was the condition at that time in China. And then after a few more years, at that time, so let me go back a little bit, so I focus more of my time to study. So my study was doing pretty well because I didn’t have time to, I mean no friends to play with me, right?

Tom McCarthy

Yeah wow.

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah so then I had to focus on study. So then time move forward, up to the cultural revolution, I graduated from high school then. So I, like many of the young people like me, living in a city were first of all educated and then later on forced to go to work in the countryside and we call it the youth going to get the second education from the peasants in the countryside. So I went four years, almost five years working in the rural country and 16 hours of work everyday.

Tom McCarthy

Farming work?

Master Chunyi Lin

Farming, farming. So pulling peanuts, sweet potatoes, rice, sugar canes, and that kind of things, so very heavy labor. So I had a lots of injuries and of course I played basketball too. Then, I add more injuries to my body. And then, cultural revolution ended and I got a chance to participate in enter college examinations. So then I became a college student. That was a life changing, completely changing. I learned so much in college. So then I became a college teacher. So I continue to practice, but I had suicidal depression, I was in a mess, I had bone spurts in my neck, in my lower back and injuries in my knees and later on turn into arthritis. As a young man, I was in a mess. Societally, I was depressed and then my physical body just aches and pains all over my body.

Tom McCarthy

Probably some anger too, right? From being bullied and being sent out to farm. I mean, you probably were angry then.

Master Chunyi Lin

Oh I was just so angry, so mad. But the more serious thing is you could not express your anger. You have to trap your anger inside because when you express your anger, that would attract more problems and people will bully you more and at work people will look at you and also get what the hell going on here? That kind of things. And then you will have less opportunities to get promoted and to get a better salary. Our salary at that time was very low, like five dollars, American dollars for a month, yeah .

Tom McCarthy

As a college teacher, as a college teacher.

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah, as a college teacher. So at that time, when I first came to United States to participate in exchange program and I had, here, I got the allowance like a $60 for a month, I looked at it, wow, that’s like a life in heaven. People said, “Why you are so happy with $60? You only have $60.” Even $60 you only get what, less than 10 McDonald’s, right? I said, “You know what? That is my six month.” I mean almost one year salary in China. So I saved every penny to bring it home.

Tom McCarthy

So you had all these injuries and you had this depression. How did you find qigong?

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah so I try every way, everything to heal my knees and heal my back, but Western way and Eastern way, acupuncture, global medicine, injection, just name it. And sometimes it help a little bit, but when the pain came back, it came back even worse. So one day a colleague of mine said, qigong master coming to town. I sitting in his conference and you could help yourself to heal very serious challenges too. So I already tried everything, right, so why not try one more thing? So then I went and there were thousands of people sitting on the still ground in a soccer field. And so I was there listening to this master and I didn’t believe I would get healed completely, but this was the last hope so I went. And the master talked and taught a little bit techniques and everybody was following him. 

And then he said, “Well, if you wanted to heal yourself faster and more completely, then you need to forgive those people who once upon a time hurt you so badly in your life.” Immediately I said, “No way, how can I forgive those people?” Right when their life in danger, my parents gave everything to them and when our lives is in danger, instead of helping us out, they kicked us out of the house and put their best friend’s kids into the mouth of the wolf. So, no way, I said in my heart, but immediately the master said, looked like he knew my heart. And he said, “Well if you had a hard time to say I forgive you, then you can pretend.” just by pretending to forgive these people, you can also get some good benefits too.” I say, “Wait a minute, if by forgiving, pretending, I can heal myself faster and completely, well then I think that is a good deal.” 

So I started visualizing these people laying up in the sky one by one and I said to them, make sure that they hear me, now at this moment, I just want to help myself to heal faster and more completely so I pretend I forgive you. I pretend I love you. So I repeat I pretend I love you, I pretend I forgive you thousands of times. And very quickly murmuring. And then so I got tired of repeating the same words, same way, I love you, I forgive you, I love you, I forgive you, and then simply , that kind of humming sound. After I don’t know how long I did that, then miracle happened. My whole body was like on fire.

Tom McCarthy

Wow.

Master Chunyi Lin

Starting from the belly button which we call the lower dantian and then radiating out through my entire body, my hands, my legs. I was starting moving the body automatically and then even I roll on the ground, you know? So I was shaking and trembling. That kind of a shaking and trembling was not from my mind, it’s simply the body was doing it. And then it was about quite a few hours and this master was talking seven hours and a half. And then I pick myself up from the ground. miracle happen. The pain in my knees, the arthritis in my knees, in my back, in my neck, completely went away, completely, I mean the pain. The pain in my knees is 80% gone. I was able to jump, to run, I’m just so happy. And after that, I went home, I practice another two month. 

Something even bigger happen. My suicidal depression went away and I love people, I love everything, the glasses, trees, everything look so dear to me and wow, that was such a huge, huge change in my life and I call it best enlightening moment I had. Then after that, I said, wow, the qigong is so, so true, so real. Some people said, “Well, it’s a psychological thing. Right, you believe it, it works, you don’t believe it, it doesn’t work.” But to me, it is just so real. And so later on, I spent all my vacation time to practice qigong, to go to different parts of the country to study under different masters, to go to saline masters, to go to chi chuan and stay in a cave and meditate inside. The longest time I stay in a cave to meditate is 28 days with only a few apples and three bottles of water. At the time, I tell you, so when I was meditating over there, I said, “No problem. 

I can survive because we went through all the trainings from three days fasting to eight days fasting, right now, it’s 28 days, it’s okay.” So I knew it. But you know what? This was very intensive meditation and training and I got three bottles. The bottles is about like two or three cups of water, you know, in one bottle. So the first three days, I already drank two bottles and we have six apples and the first three days I ate four. Wow, I still have 20 more days to go. Yeah so wow. And I was a little panicking. Then I calm myself down, okay anyway, and when my master said it was okay, I believe it is okay, just meditate and meditate, I survive. So that was such a huge, huge experience. And then after that intensive training, and then I was certified as a qigong master. So Tom, I cannot hear you. There’s no sound. Yeah, okay. Now you can hear me. 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, so the thing that’s so cool is that you are the most, as I mentioned, you are the most loving human being I know on the planet. And so many people feel that way about you, Jack Canfield and all these thought leaders. And to think of you as ever being angry or having suicidal tendencies and being depressed, I can’t even imagine that. So the transformation you had in your life is incredible, it’s just absolutely incredible. And so Chunyi, what we’re gonna talk about today, so now you know his story, everyone watching know how he came to a qigong. And one of the things is he’s not only a qigong practitioner that’s taught many, many people, hundreds of thousands of people qigong. He also is one of the most amazing energy healers on the planet. 

As a matter of fact, Chunyi wrote a book called, “You Were Born a Healer”. And his mission in life, his purpose in life is a healer in every home. Today, I want to talk to you a little bit about remote healing. And Chunyi has been, he’s been my go-to person when I’ve got something, I’ll say, “Hey Chunyi, can you help me?” And he’s in Minneapolis, I’m in San Diego and he’ll tune into my energies and he’ll say, “You’ve got a blockage here, a blockage here, let me work on it.” And he’s just been just so wonderful and such a great, great friend of mine. But for people that aren’t used to remote healing, they’re going how can he be in Minneapolis and you be in San Diego and something happen? Can you talk to us about remote healing, Chunyi, and a little bit about the methods you use to do that?

Master Chunyi Lin

Sure, absolutely. So it’s about, the simple answer to the remote healing is as a healer you’re sending your healing love, your healing energy, to the recipient remotely, and one person, one healer, and you send healing to many of the people across the sky to the other side of the world to help heal or a group of healers or people send healing energy remotely to other recipients. I’ll speak for qigong students always a form groups to send healing to others. You know, I’m talking about the energy. Energy has no limitation of space and time. And so you need to open your heart to understand that. It is all about the energy transformation. And so you open your heart, you direct that energy from your heart, well later on, I can tell you the techniques and how to do that, to send your intention. And with the intention, you send your qi, which here, we’re talking about energy, to help others to clear their energy blockages. 

In order to help this person to heal remotely, there’s some steps, these are the techniques. You can call it my secret, right? First, you need to detect the energy blockages in this person’s body prior to the healing session. And then you need the information of this person, like the location of this person, or then the age and if you know the birthday, that’s even better, and the gender, what we talk about, the location, right? So these are the things you need to know about this person so that you can pinpoint where this person is so that your intention can direct your healing energy to help this person remotely. And so that’s basically, basically, that’s it.

Tom McCarthy

That’s awesome. So you can send energy and intention, not just you, but other people when they learn how to do it, can send energy and intention anywhere in the world, right?

Master Chunyi Lin

Yes, any corner in the world so that’s no problem. So may I tell you a story?

Tom McCarthy

Sure, yeah, please.

Master Chunyi Lin

This is not only I can do it, everybody in my classes who learns these techniques can do it. And a long time ago, there was a student of mine, call me. At the time I was preparing to go to a formal dinner invited by my friend. He said, “I have a friend who is having a heart attack in Italy, in a village in Italy. So he is literally is dying because the heart is only, like 15% of the heart is working. So Master Lin, can you do healing for my friend?” I said, “Well, I’d love to do that for you but you know what, you have been in my level three class and you can do it.” He said, “No, no, no, no, no, I don’t have that power yet.” I said, “Well, you do and you trust yourself. You are already an advanced student. You can get a group of people together to do it and I will send healing energy to help you. 

Because at this moment I am busy going now.” And he said, “Really?” And I said, “Yes, you can do it.” Then within one hour or two hours of the time and he got together 16 people in his house started doing the meditation and I tune in to help them, to give them more energy. So then on the other end of the world, the doctors in Italy screaming. They say, “What happened? What happened?” Because the monitor of the heart, the EKG, EEG, that kind of things is rising up from 15 to 35 to 45 to 55 the heart function actually is moving better and better. And then he call back, call me back in about one hour, he said, “Things are getting much better so thank you, thank you. What can we do next?” I said, “Well, this is not safe yet. 

You need to do another healing and I’m going to tune in tonight and I’m going to work on him too.” So we did another healing and then this gentleman who was an engineer and his wife was licensed nurse in Minnesota and they didn’t believe the qigong healing that much. They thought, okay, and that this is something real is happening. And then they called me back, they said, “What can we do next?” And I say, “Well, we’ll continue to work on him and if he is doing okay overnight and then in seven days, he’ll be back in Minnesota.” And they said, “Oh, come on, no way. The doctor said he need to stay in Italy for two month before he could move back and do some activities.” You know what? Exactly the seventh day he was walking back in Minnesota in the street.

Tom McCarthy

Oh, that’s awesome.

Master Chunyi Lin

So this is the remote healing. And in remote healing, this energy, this energy has intelligence, it has a wisdom. It knows what to do. Once it gets into your body, it knows exactly where to go to help you to fix the damaged tissues, to reset the energetic systems and likely we’ve seen. So this is the way how remote healing help us.

Tom McCarthy

So people in the Western part of the world have a hard time, many people have a hard time believing that, that you can send energy, that energy has intelligence, it can fix things. Why do you think they have so much trouble believing that and how did you, ’cause you probably didn’t believe that when you were growing up, but then you started to see results, I’m sure, right?

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah, absolutely. Actually, once people have been doing remote healing every day without noticing it. So for instance, if you have a friend got injured or in a hospital, and for any other reasons, you say, “Oh, God bless you, I will send you love and much love to you.” When you do this blessing and automatically you already send energy.

Tom McCarthy

So people are already doing remote healing just by?

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah absolutely.

Tom McCarthy

That’s great, that’s great. So anytime you think a loving thought for somebody or send blessings, you’re actually doing exactly what we’re talking about.

Master Chunyi Lin

Exactly, when you say, excuse me, I wish you be well soon, I wish you be coming home for the holiday, when you send this intention and wishes, then the people is going to receive that wishes. 

Our grandma and grandpa has always said, “Be careful what you ask for”, right? So when you send your love and energy to help others and this love and this energy is going to reach that person. But here, talking about energy, remote healing, and you train yourself to activate this gift you’re already inborn with. 

You make it work better. And more you practice, more you train and more you can activate this love, then that is a gift to help others. That is the case. So of course at the very beginning when I practiced qigong, especially the healing, and face-to-face healing and then later on remote healing, I said, “Yeah, I have a lot to learn but really?” I did have that moment. But after I practice, I put it working on others that I found out it worked. And it might not work every time immediately. 

Some people get results right away. Some people get a result a little bit later. So some people might take several times to work. It depends on the situation of that person is, but hey, for instance, if person has a headache, long time ago, when I first started doing the remote healing, you might take like a half an hour to help to calm that headache down. Then, when I practice more and more and more, the same level of headache right now, I could do it like within seconds. 

Yeah that’s the more you practice, the more focus you can give your energy, your direct energy to help others and then the better result you will be. Plus, the more you practice, there is one more thing is involved, it’s very important. It’s unconditional love, right? So unconditional love with the qi, with intention, with it’s a pure unconditional love, you are able to help others to heal faster. So now here I’m talking about like a higher level healer. That’s a higher level healer has higher level vibration with the energy. And this is not only that, you also need to have a pure love too. Many healers I know, they have great, great techniques, but not necessarily they practice unconditional love.

Tom McCarthy

As I mentioned earlier, that is the thing to me that really stands out about you is your heart. You’re so unconditionally loving. I mean it comes through. I hope everyone’s experiencing it just by hearing you talk, but he’s just such one of the treasures in my life and I think one of the treasures on the planet is my good friend, Chunyi. Chunyi, what are some techniques that you can share with people if they want to, and I’m sure a of people will want, and we’ll talk about later how to get in touch with you and your healers, but if they want to try healing, if they want to try healing a relative or a friend or a loved one, what are some things they can do?

Master Chunyi Lin

Okay, so of course, unconditional love.

Tom McCarthy

Start with that always.

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah, you activate that and you take three gentle deep breath and focus on the heart. Calm yourself down so that, and then you put a smile on your face. Smile is very powerful technique.

Tom McCarthy

What does a smile do? What does a smile do? That just creates different energy?

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah because smile, s-m-i-l-e, stands for, you know that? Start my internal love engine.

Tom McCarthy

Oh, good, yeah, yeah, yeah, I’ve heard you say that.

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah so once you put a smile, automatically you start that love engine from your heart. Then you have your pure intention to help others and you don’t have any kind of worries and egos at that moment anymore once you start this love from your heart. And then the techniques you use, Tom, would you please, let’s do it together. The sword fingers, right, the sword fingers. Now here, I want you to give a little bit test of the sword fingers, how it works. And you can literally feel the qi, right? 

First of all, you hold out one hand. So maybe left hand and the fingers are slightly open like what I do, and then hold your sword fingers with the right hand. If it’s your right hand you present, it doesn’t matter right hand or left hand, which hand you feel more comfortable. Now you say send energy to the middle of my palm and then you point your sword fingers to your palm and you close eyes and then you say visualize light shooting out from your sword fingers to the middle of your palm. Can you feel the tingly sensation?

Tom McCarthy

Yeah for sure, yeah I can, yeah.

Master Chunyi Lin

So then you put your hands a little bit away from each other, like what I do and you continue to send light to the middle of the palm. Can you still feel that?

Tom McCarthy

Yes.

Master Chunyi Lin

All right. So cool, huh? Okay so now we do something we call remote healing. So now you point your sword fingers to the sky and you move it clockwise, counterclockwise, it doesn’t matter and then you say, “Send energy to the middle of my palm.”

Tom McCarthy

Send energy to the middle of my palm.

Master Chunyi Lin

Now do you still feel that even more tingly sensation in the middle of the palm?

Tom McCarthy

Yes.

Master Chunyi Lin

You’re gonna feel more energy in the fingers now. Okay, now you can put your hands down. From the first practice, you point the sword fingers to the middle of your palm, you can feel the energy.  That’s natural. Well you say, we have a heat temperature that will get effect in the middle of the palm. But once you put the hand towards to the sky, there is no connection with these two hands, all right? But with the mind you say-

Tom McCarthy

The intention, yeah the intention brings it right there, yeah, yeah.

Master Chunyi Lin

To this palm. Then the energy will send to this palm.

Tom McCarthy

Right.

Master Chunyi Lin

So this is exactly what remote healing. It has no limitation of space, no limitation of time and no limitation of speed either.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, that’s amazing.

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah so this is what you can do. So you do the sword fingers and this piece of technique is in the YouTube, you can find it too, in the website too. So you use the sword fingers to break out the blockage in the person’s body.  For instance, this person has shoulder pain. Remotely you can do that, visualizing your sword fingers sending light to break out the blockage in this person’s shoulder. You do it like 30 seconds or so at the very beginning of the practice. You get better, of course, five seconds, that’s the time you need, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop and break out the energy blockage. And then open your hand, visualizing your hand as an energy hand going across the sky and go to this person’s shoulder and take hold of that pain as a smoke and put it out and return it back to the universe as extra energy. 

This is not bad energy, right? The energy blockage is also a form of energy, it’s just a bit more condensed. So you just put it out as smoke and return it back to the universe and say in your mind, channel’s open, blockage is gone and completely healed. You need to say the word completely because this is what you want, right? Completely healed, completely healed, completely healed, completely healed. And just keep moving. At the very beginning when you pull the blockage out, you will feel a sensation, kind of a heavy, stick feeling in your hand, like that. Then after that, when the blockage is going away and getting less and less and no blockage in that area anymore, then you will feel your hand getting normal, very light that means.

Tom McCarthy

So that’s the sign. When the hand feels lighter, you’ve gotten that out.

Master Chunyi Lin

Exactly. And then at the end, when that happens, you give healing energy back and lock the energy so that that result can be sustained. So nine times. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, you send energy in that way. Use the palm.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah.

Master Chunyi Lin

Give back.

Tom McCarthy

That’s great.

Master Chunyi Lin

That’s it.

Tom McCarthy

So now everybody’s learned how to be a remote healer. So first start with the sword fingers and then you chop, chop, chop, right, see that energy blockage breaking up and then pull out till it feels light in your hand and then nine times putting energy back in. That’s amazing, thank you. You’ve just, I mean you’ve helped so many hundreds of thousands, millions of people, but everybody who’s watching, this really is a technique that will work. Now someone may not feel it immediately because it’s subtle energy. It’s subtle energy that you’re changing, but you can now help your loved ones, your friends, and you can even do this technique on yourself, right?

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

Tom McCarthy

So if you have a sore shoulder or a knee or something, you can do the same steps. You’re so generous. You’re always helping people and you’re always the first to offer to help. I love you so much. You’ve been such a great friend.  Where can people find you, Chunyi, and your work if they want to take the next steps in developing a qigong practice so that they are removing blockages automatically? Or if they want to become a more advanced healer or if they need healing from people that you’ve trained? Where can they find you?

Master Chunyi Lin

Sure yeah. You can come to visit my website, the springforestqigong.com or you can see me in the Facebook, like Chunyin Lin or Master Chunyin Lin or Spring Forest Qigong in the Facebook and you can find me too. Every day from Friday to, I’m sorry from Monday to Friday, we have an everyday qigong practice starting at eight o’clock central time. So our teachers will guide you for half an hour.  Every day, you’ll have a teacher to practice together with you. And of course I have many courses, level one, level two, level three, level four and our teachers all over the world. So you can visit Spring Forest Qigong website and you can find all this information.

Tom McCarthy

I can’t recommend it highly enough. I’ve been practicing Spring Forest Qigong ever since I learned back in 2008, 2009, when I first met Chunyi through a group that we’re part of called the Transformational Leadership Council. And it’s amazing. It’s so amazing. It’s such a wonderful practice for the body, also for the mind and you feel so good after you do it. So I would encourage everybody to go to Spring Forest, Qigong is q-i and then g-o-n-g.com, spring, just like spring, forest just like forest and then qigong.com. Chunyi, thank you so much and we’ve got another interview with you coming up. 

We’re gonna be talking about energy blockages too. So look for that on the schedule here, everybody that’s watching. He’ll be talking more about energy blockages and how to clear them and what they are, but thank you so much for enlightening us and teaching all of us how to become remote energy healers. It’s been so wonderful of you to do that. Do you have any final words you want to share with people before we sign off on this?

Master Chunyi Lin

Absolutely. Well, thank you, Tom. Thank you for your presence and thank you for your invite and just so, so, so enjoy having this moment with you. Our intention is very important and as you have, everybody was born a healer, everybody was born with these beautiful gifts. You can help yourself to heal. You can help others to heal. And the unconditional love is very important. When you want to help others to heal and heal completely, activate that unconditional love from your heart and trust yourself. When you trust yourself, you have more confidence and then so with the intent and with the pure energy, then you set up a condition. You set up an environment with your unconditional love. So there’s your pure energy, in qigong practice, we call it that qi, and can flow out from you. And then this qi, the intelligence, can work even better for helping yourself and helping others. 

And the amazing thing of the Spring Forest Qigong practice is once you’re helping others to heal and at the same time simultaneously, you are helping yourself to heal too. And many people, they help others with their aches and pains in their body and then they are the first one to get rid of the pain because you activate this qi, the intelligence is not only helping others and you’re helping yourself. Not like many other people said, well I need to be well so that I can help others to heal. But in Spring Forest Qigong practice, you don’t need to be perfect so that you can help others. You help others at the same time to help yourself become perfect. How about that?

Tom McCarthy

That’s wonderful. That is so wonderful. Well, I love you very much. You’re a dear friend and so happy to be doing this summit with you and thank you so much for helping everybody in this. And as I said before, look for the second interview with Chunyi, that’s coming up on the summit too. We’ll see everybody soon. Amazing job. Thank you, Chunyi.

Master Chunyi Lin

Yeah, so thank you, Tom, thank you.