The Secrets To Anti-Aging​

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Thank you. Thank you so much, Tom. I am really excited because I love, love, love the name of the summit. Just that global energy healing it’s just so right on path, on what’s possible and what your body’s capable of. So can’t wait to get started.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, outstanding, and acupuncturists, obviously, that’s what you’re working with. You’re working with energy. Actually, talk a little bit about that. Maybe just to start. So you’ve been an acupuncturist for a long time. You help lots and lots of people, thousands and thousands of people. What got you into that though? What even made you want to become an acupuncturist?

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

So when I actually was about 26, I was really, really sick. I had a severe disabling disease, Crohn’s disease. And at the time I actually was finishing pre-med. I thought I was going to go to medical school, right? The universe had a different message for me. And what happened through that process of just ending up in multiple surgeries and long stays in the hospital was I actually realized that that was not working for me. And in the process, when I had the chance to be able to actually get out of the hospital, I gravitated towards holistic medicine. 

I was fortunate enough to be exposed to acupuncture at that time. And I didn’t have anything to lose. So I was all in. And that actually is really what started me on the path because the results that I got were amazing. And of course our own story for our recovery from something, with the art that we use, I was 100% in. So I have been practicing acupuncture ever since. And in that process, also just making sure that I was developing the tools that address the whole body. 

The cool part about Chinese medicine is it really is kind of a spiritual system, but I also wanted to bring in the energy component of our universe and that global energy. And that’s where I really kind of took my path in specializing in body, mind and spirit and energy medicine. So that was my path.

Tom McCarthy

Very, very cool. And one of the things we were talking about, and it’s a term that I’ve never heard before. So it was really cool to hear you talk about it. You talk about the energy highway, explain that a little but. I love that term by the way. I don’t know if you’ve trademarked it or not, but I love that term.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

I think I need to, right? So let me actually kind of back up into just the physiology of the body, because we live in this physical being. And a lot of times we think that our electrical system and our information, like from the brain to the body and how we respond to things, we think of it as a really fast process. Like for example, if you touch a stove, you pull your hand away instantaneously, like you almost sense that it’s hot before you actually feel that it’s hot. And that’s the amazing part of the survival of this being, but that’s also based on the electrical system of the body. So like the nervous system of the body and the nervous system is actually relative to that information highway, that energy highway is really slow. It’s like it can get jammed up. It could be like being on the 405 in California at rush hour. It actually can be a really slow process that can get jammed up. 

One of the things that I really focus on in my practice is biophoton frequencies. So that’s the light energy of our body. And in Chinese medicine, I actually like to equate that with where the chi runs. So the chi runs in that energy field that runs through our body. That’s like light speed, right? So I think that it is why when that we experience as human beings the same thing at the same time, is because we are just universally connected and it’s that information highway that energy biophoton highway that that energy runs on.  It’s not linear, it’s instantaneous. So the study, for example, that was done, where they took the scraping of the inside of the guy’s mouth. Have you ever heard that study?

Tom McCarthy

I’m not sure, tell me about it.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

What they did was they took the scraping of the lining of a guy’s mouth and they put all the nutrients in a Petri dish that would keep those cells alive. What they did was they stimulated a energy. I think actually as an emotion on that human being and what they found was they found that the chemical reaction in the body was instantaneous with a chemical reaction in that cell.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, I have heard many studies like that with plants and not the scraping of the mouth though, this is really cool.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Right. So it really gives us a foundation and proof of the science that’s out there that we are universally connected on that energy highway.

Tom McCarthy

Right, right.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

So it’s been my focus on really being able to give that body, any body, whether it’s in a healing mode or not the energy highway to be optimal, to have that optimal frequency. That is the ideal image of a acupuncture meridian that is working exactly how it’s supposed to work, the cells working exactly how they’re supposed to work. So being able to, for example, imprint different biophoton frequencies, and then expose the person to them, it gives that reinforcement and the learned capability of vibrating at that healthy frequency.

Tom McCarthy

I love that. That’s so cool. So when you create these frequencies, you’re doing it, and we’re going to talk about it, ’cause you have some really cool skin care products that have these frequencies that I just started using by the way. And I’m loving it. We’ll talk about that a little bit later, but what other ways are you able to do this to help patients?

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah. So that’s kind of the tricky part, if you will because, and it is founded actually in science, that biophoton resonating fields are supported in science, but sometimes when we can’t feel or see or measure something in a way that we’re used to, it’s kind of like, I know when I turn that light switch on across my room and a light comes on, I may know nothing about electricity, but I know what’s going to happen. 

So that’s the slow path, right? So with the ability to imprint biophoton frequencies, and I use a very systematic process that is scientifically validated with biophotons, magnets, energy fields, and being able to utilize, like, for example, one of the things that a lot of people are familiar with is being able to take vials if you will, and imprint a frequency in that vial. So people are a little more familiar with that. 

It’s the same concept, but the technology is a little bit more developed. I make reagents of multiple different frequencies that allow me to be able to imprint it into the human body, as well as imprint it into tools that they can use on their own to be able to reinforce that.

Tom McCarthy

Very nice, yeah. I love it. Well, you’ve definitely gone far beyond where the typical acupuncturist would go to and in your service to humanity, which is really, really great. I want to talk a little bit about aging. So is aging, is it just energy getting stuck, slowing down? Not as much energy, none of the above. What is aging?

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah, that’s a great question, because it almost seems like it should be tangible, but it’s not always really all that tangible. And I think the reason why that is, is because like for example, when I was really sick, I got better. 

After working and figuring out all the things that my body needs and giving it what it needs. I was healthy. I had no signs of Crohn’s disease. I had so much energy. I felt so good, really vibrant, but my face still showed it. So what is that? And I think that that’s where the body, mind and spirit comes in as well. Is that on an energetic level I was still holding onto the trauma, the pain, the frustration, all of the things that I went through with the Crohn’s disease on my face.

Tom McCarthy

Wow.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

So it’s interesting, right?

Tom McCarthy

Yeah.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

But the face is a little bit different than the body. So the body has like opposing muscles and you can lengthen them and strengthen them. The face has one, the representation of Chinese medicine all over it, right?

Tom McCarthy

Yes.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

So like, yeah, right? So between the eyes represents the liver, and the different areas of the body that represents different parts of the meridian systems. What happens is when we have a pain, be it like an illness, a family event, a divorce, things like that. We have facial expressions that carry the emotions that were going on for us at that point. They actually gets stuck on the face.

Tom McCarthy

Wow.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah. And because we don’t have the opposing muscles, it’s being able to release those that enable us to just heal that last part of our traumas, as well as regain that youthful feeling that can be in the rest of our body or spirit.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, that’s interesting. So a lot of people are worried about the face, just because of the way that it looks, which obviously is something you help people with, but there’s way more to it than that. It’s stored information that’s getting released. And so not only does it look better, but it impacts your energy system throughout, which I’ve never heard that before. That’s really, really interesting.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah. It’s fascinating. And I think the part that I was talking about the muscles of the face are different than the muscles of the body. That’s kind of the key part about the aging process as well, is a lot of people think it’s like, elastin and collagen and things like that. But when I look at it, I look at toxins and I look at the muscles that are constricted or contracted rather than just this sagging area. And that’s the interesting thing about the face anyway is that it’s not just the repair of collagen and elastin in the lift. It’s about lengthening the muscles that are the areas that make us look older because of the contraction.

Tom McCarthy

So let’s talk about the face a little bit. So what are some things that when you look at somebody’s face, you’re looking for, like, I know for me, I’ve got these little bags underneath my eyes, what are some things like that you look for, that people, when they look in the mirror, they can see and kind of almost not self-diagnosed, but get a little wisdom, a little bit of your wisdom where they can maybe see what’s going on. And then obviously you’ve got some things you can do to help them too. 

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Right 100. Yeah, 100%. There is, that represents-

Tom McCarthy

You’re looking very intently at my face now.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah, that’s that happens for me, automatic. Sorry, I can’t help it. It’s interesting because in the process, like for example, under the eyes and that baggy, what we call it, the little saddlebags under the eyes, that’s actually kidney. And being able to, to not just focus on what you can do to support your kidneys, like making sure you’re hydrated, making sure you’re flushing, making sure your lymphatic system is actually doing the drainage that it should be, because that’s another part that people don’t think about is that if our lymphatic system isn’t doing its job and it is congested, then it’s almost like the foundation of how your body’s going to function. 

Because if it can’t dump the toxins from the skin, it’s not dumping them from the cells. And if it’s not dumping from the cells, it’s hard to be healthy. So that’s important. And then different areas might be like, for example across the forehead right here, where we have like signs like the 11 and the scrunching of the-

Tom McCarthy

The 11, yeah.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah, exactly. When it pulls down it pulls down those eyelids.

Tom McCarthy

I was so serious growing up. I was always kind of like, you know that, now I’m just starting to loosen up and these bags kind of come and go, but sometimes depending upon my sleep, yeah.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah well, I get that too, because yeah. I mean, that’s a whole story in itself as far as the sleep and what that does because your lymphatic system doesn’t have a chance to detox if you’re not sleeping well. As well as so many other things about sleep that are vital, vital. 

Tom McCarthy

What about the 11?

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

The 11, right? So that’s liver, so that’s newer. So that could be like carrying some anger, some resentment from different points in our life. You know, that hasn’t maybe, maybe we’ve done a lot of healing and maybe we’ve even done enough healing to be able to resolve those on what feels like a heart level, but you may still be carrying that, right?

Tom McCarthy

Yeah.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

And then the different areas, like in Chinese medicine, this area right here, which is the marionette lines, that’s spleen in Chinese medicine, and spleen is related to overthinking, worry, things like that. Where we have our mouth a little bit tight.

Tom McCarthy

Wow, okay, cool.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

So yeah, I could keep going.

Tom McCarthy

No, this is great. This is great. I really appreciate it. And I know so many other people are learning so much. So there’s so many things. If somebody wants to find out more about this, even just the diagnosis of the face, do you have tools or can they contact you or?

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Absolutely. Absolutely. One of the things, I mean, we can do for sure. They can just, they can contact me through [email protected].

Tom McCarthy

Say that again, let’s make sure that-

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah, trunergyskincare.com, but it’s one E, so T-R-U-E-N-E-R-G-Y, skincare.com. And then the other is, is I’m, as you probably have guessed at this point, I’m big on information, right? I feel like people want to know, and that’s why you’re doing exactly what you’re doing. They want tools in their hands. So I’m big on that. So any of the webinars that I do, things like that, if you’re on my mailing list, you’ll get information.

Tom McCarthy

Can they register for that mailing list at truenergyskincare.com?

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Absolutely. So that’s my support. And then truenergyskincare.com as a just going onto that link for the website. You can register there as well.

Tom McCarthy

This is really, really cool. So now by using, so like someone like me who gets the bags under the eyes and has the 11, I’ve never started calling it that, it’s not like, oh no, I just have this, so what are the things that you have that help people work this? Or does it work the energy blockages out of the skin, or what’s really going on and how can people do that?

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Right. Right, right. Okay. So, well, I developed a tool that people can use as well as a protocol. And the protocol is really innovative in itself because it addresses all of the different layers that are really not taking into consideration when we’re talking about aging and anti-aging, which I always prefer to call it aging gracefully and using the tools that you have access to that are natural. But I do have the protocol and the tools. I have a wand with a skincare that has a little frequency bead in it. So I’ve used all of my knowledge to actually take the energy medicine and put it into the product and the protocol.

Tom McCarthy

Okay. And when you use these products, your Tru Energy Skincare line, the face will actually change energetically.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah, so when you use, so for example, when you use the wand and you’re using the protocol, what you’re doing is you’re going through a process of first lymphatic drainage because that’s, you gotta take out before you put in. So initially the first part of the protocol, the first six steps are doing lymphatic drainage. It moves in a downward direction, and people don’t really consider that because we’ve always been told if you’re putting lotion go up, up, up, up, up, you don’t want to drag the face down. So the base really doesn’t get that lymphatic drainage and the detoxing hardly ever. So it is a key component. 

People can look years younger, and a lot of times look like they’ve lost 50 pounds just from losing the weight of those toxins, right? And then as the protocol goes through, you’re using the wand to lengthen the muscles that are contracted and lengthening the muscles that are contracted around the mouth. And then being able to pop the muscles that are more sagging and that because the wand has those energy frequencies in it, you’re addressing all of that. And putting those energy, the chi of all of the acupuncture meridians that are balanced. When you look at the face, you can see that there’s acupuncture meridians all over the face.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah. So you’re touching all of those with this wand. That’s been imprinted with the frequencies that balance, the acupuncture, meridians, the circadian rhythms, the cells for being able to repair, to detox, hormone balance in the cell and things like that. So it really enables you to release all of the emotional stuff that you’re holding onto, which makes you feel better all the way around, and then being able to get like that pop on your chin line and the areas that are kind of the problem areas that people see in aging. 

And honestly, like I mentioned, I think the anti-aging concept is really more about aging gracefully, utilizing your tools, feeling better overall in body, mind, and spirit shows up on your face. You know, like when you wake up in the morning and you look in the mirror and go, I look tired, you go out into the world with that energy, right. So you can look in the mirror and go, oh I don’t need makeup today. 

Not that you would consider that, but I would, right? I really rarely, rarely wear makeup anymore. And so for me to be actually to look in the mirror and feel like I don’t need makeup, which 10 years ago would never have happened. I feel like, and I know others do that I’m going out with a completely different energy into the world. And what you put out is totally what you get back.

Tom McCarthy

It’s really cool. Some really unique ways of thinking about it. And growing up, my mom always said, never ask a woman’s age, but you said it was okay to ask your age. Just so everybody knows, how old are you, Cathy?

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

I just turned 61.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, so 61 old and you look much, much younger, which is really great. I love it. You are a product of your products and of your thinking. So a couple really cool things. Again, I just want to reinforce that I’m learning, even though we’ve talked before, I’m really learning and understanding now for the first time is the face stores emotions, right? It’s stores things from our past that maybe we even work through in other parts of the body, but it’s stored here. 

And if it is still stored here, it’s still in us. And the fact that we can let go of it, almost the final release potentially could even be in releasing these marks, lines in the face. So that’s really, really cool. And then the second benefit is you look better, right? You look better, you feel better, but even more than that, I think even more importantly than that, you’re releasing this trapped energy. So that was really, really cool to learn today. Cathy, thanks for sharing that. That was really powerful.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Absolutely. My pleasure. It’s a lot of fun.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah. And how do you see energy moving through the body? Like one of the things you did say that was also interesting. And for me, so being a guy like I’ve never done anything for my face, and my face is fairly youthful ’cause I’m 60 years old. But you know, I went to, I think I got a facial like eight years ago and the person said, “Oh, your skin is really good. What are you doing?” I go, “Nothing.” But now I really, after understanding what you do and the way that you’ve explained to me, I’m really committed. 

Like I’m doing a twice a day and this is a guy that’s never really done anything for his face. I mean, I wash it in the shower, but that’s about it. But I’m just curious, like, one of the things you said was that you want to move energy down. How does energy move through the body? And as an acupuncturist, I know this is one of your core understandings. How does energy move through our body? Hopefully we all know we’re energy, but how does it move?

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Right, right, right. Yeah. So, the way that I look at that, especially if I’m talking about like putting an acupuncture needle in, like one needle, am I really affecting just that point? No, I’m actually affecting every energy pathway that connects with that. And the more balanced someone is the more energy pathways that it connects with. 

So we’re talking about the chi or energy of the body being biophoton or light energy of the body. Then that highway of energy is not just instantaneous on our body, but we’re resonating at the frequency that is overall health and healing. So when you can have a tool that radiates the frequency of a balanced, whatever it is, a balanced Meridian, an acupuncture point, a circadian rhythm, a chakra, if you can use tools that balance those energies, because they vibrate at the frequency of a harmonized balanced system, then you’re enabling your body to vibrate at that frequency as well. 

So when you’re using the light energy of the biophoton highway, that energy highway, you’re actually utilizing the highway of being able to heal. And just as we all know, it can go the other way as well. I mean, EMFs are kind of a huge highway, and also a little bit slower, but it’s a negative highway. We need to be sure that we’re vibrating in the positive frequencies and utilizing tools that enable us to be as exposed as possible for the good vibration and frequencies and let go and move away out of our space the negative vibrational frequencies.

Tom McCarthy

So somebody that’s maybe in their fifties or even their sixties, and they feel like they don’t have the energy they had when they were in their thirties and forties. Can they recover that energy? Is that even possible?

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, and that’s the thing too, is that well, one is there just principles and lifestyle things that are really important, right? So if you are drinking tap water versus an energy water, you’re talking about being able to give your body the ability to on a hydrated level, to vibrate at the frequency of a healthy water versus a toxic water. That in itself is huge. 

If I could tell people to do one thing other than breathing, breathing is really important. It’s like, how long does it take before you don’t survive on a nutrient? Well, oxygen would be the first, right? And deep breathing is important because it really takes us to that parasympathetic versus sympathetic. So sympathetic is the fight or flight. It’s where we live a lot of our life in because of what stressors are in environment, as well as the urgency of our cell phones and things like that. And it is not the place where we do healing at all. It’s a place where we do- Right. It’s our survival mode. 

So being able to go from sympathetic to parasympathetic is a key factor for that as well, because parasympathetic is healing, digesting, resting. And if you’re doing diaphragmatic breathing, it’s hard to say in sympathetic, by nature, our ability to go into that parasympathetic, which is why you meditate, right?

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, absolutely.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

They go meditate.

Tom McCarthy

I do deep breathing, yeah. So that’s cool. So there’s hope for anybody really like no matter what their energy is today, it can improve, it can get better.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Absolutely.

Tom McCarthy

And I know you had a gift also you’re offering, what is that that people can download?

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah, so I actually made a meditation that is focused on the concept of being rather than doing, right? So being. And then it really focuses on the heart center focus of that being, and then allowing the biophoton energy highway to be wide open and attract the energy and being able to move your own energy, because that’s really important as well is, is the more vibrant you feel, the higher your energy is. And that’s not just on the energy level that we think of like, oh, I have enough energy to do stuff, it’s the vibrational energy of our cells. And that’s a gift. 

The other is I do have another one that I can include in that, which is I did a program that’s a 10 day body, mind and spirit reset. And I have a section of that. That’s like the six steps to be able to go through that process of being able to at least what are some fundamental things that I can do today that will help me to go through, go through that process. And with that meditation tape, that would be a great start for people.

Tom McCarthy

That’s beautiful, thank you so much. So that’s a free gift to everybody that’s watching this can get by going to the Global Energy Healing Summit site and be able to download that from the bonuses. Thank you so much, Cathy.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Absolutely.

Tom McCarthy

That’s really, really cool. So I’m using your two energy products, I did before shots. I’ve only been, pictures, not shots, but pictures of my face. And I’ve been on it now, I think this is my third day. Maybe my fourth. I’m not sure, third or fourth day, but I was fascinated when we were talking earlier and the reason I decided to do it, a guy that’s never done anything like that was some of the research that you had done on your product. I know you hired somebody that does like the big skincare lines of the companies that are the billion dollar companies. And just talk a little bit about what they found. I thought it was really interesting.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

It is fascinating, isn’t it? And I’ll tell you when I first developed the system and the protocol, I was like, I wonder what’s going to happen if I put it in other people’s hands, I’m not doing it on them, or standing there to kind of see what they’re doing. And I also wanted to know, what do I really have here? Like what is, I want it to be legitimate. I want it to be research backed and strong foundation. So I did give it to Dr. Copice, who, like you said, he’s with the big wig in being able to tell big name companies what kind of claims they can make on their products. So I had them do a study and halfway through, he calls me and he says, I don’t know how you’re getting these results. 

I’ve never seen anything like this. And then at the 30 days, which was the length of the trial, he said, these women looked like they’ve had many make-overs. And I said, I don’t know how you’re getting the results. And I think that what he didn’t realize is that because it’s not something that I really had talked about is he didn’t know about the frequencies that I put in that little gray bead, right in that wand, being able to get results that were really what he was saying is near impossible. Because for example, collagen takes 30 days, or 45 days just to start getting collagen production. And because he was using machines to measure all of this, he saw a 25% in collagen production in 30 days.

Tom McCarthy

Wow.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

So those are like near impossible for any product that he’s ever tested. So I was really excited about that. Now I need to take it out into the moment. 

Tom McCarthy

Nice, absolutely. That is so cool. And the secret sauce, that frequency, lots of people can put a cream out or have some ingredients, but you’ve really supercharged it with this whole understanding you have of frequencies and the impact they can have on our bodies and in this case, our face. 

So Cathy, this has been amazing. If you were to give people your top three tips for staying and you’ve probably mentioned a couple of them already, but maybe reinforce them. What are the top three tips for staying energetic, young, vibrant.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah. So well, one is using the tools right. But the other is when you think about just life and how we survive as breathing beings is the oxygen. So meditation, deep breathing are vital for really being able to let go of our constant mind chatter and stress. And it takes practice. It takes practice, but it’s possible. And it’s really, really key. The second is good, clean water, because it’s near again, really hard to move sludge out of your body, which is the toxics without hydration, it’s sludge. So being able to drink a lot of really good clean water to be able to help your body to flush the system. A lot of times people will say to me, when I drink a lot of water, I’m in the bathroom all the time, that’s a really good indication that your lymphatic system is congested. 

So you just work, it’s one or the other. I mean, I have another tool on lymphatics and repairing lymphatics, but any kind of tool that will help you to move your lymphatics, to repair your lymphatics is going to be a good part to helping you to detox. And then of course, if you’re working at all the things that help your body to utilize the nutrients to the cells, that your cells need to thrive and stay alive and perform, as they’re supposed to making sure that you’re not putting the toxins in, so your food, environment, what you put on your skin, things like that are vital. So those are my top three in my practice that I’m like, start here, you know?

Tom McCarthy

Yeah. This has been amazing, Cathy, thank you so much for being on our summit. You are a true example of what, what I think everybody wants to feel like and look like as they age. And just you have no qualms about letting people know how old you are, and part of it is because you look great and they’re going, you probably get tons of compliments. Oh, you look like you’re 39. Right? So, but that’s, you have no fear of it because you understand the energy. And I think that’s what a lot of people have. They have a fear of getting older. They’ve seen their parents get old. And one of the big things I noticed when my, my dad died when I was very young, he was an army officer in the Vietnam War, but my father-in-law, he passed away at 90. So he lived a nice full life. But the thing I saw as he was getting older was this fear, this fear, right. 

You know, where you start looking down and you don’t trust your self because you just don’t feel the energy that you used to have. And I think with the types of things that you’re talking about and other things that people are talking about with energy on this summit, we can get to 90 and still have good vibrancy, good energy. I think the body can, the body is built to be more than it has been for so many people. And you’re such a great proponent of that.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Yeah, I totally, totally agree with that. And if we give our body the nutrients, our cells, our individual cells, the nutrients that they need, be it whatever it is, then there is no limit. And that’s why I really, really love the name of the summit on that global energy, and it’s not just global energy, it’s global energy healing. So it’s everybody’s tapping in because it’s exponential. It’s the hundredth monkey, as they say, it’s exponential, the more people in that energy healing mode, that more energy that, that grows into. So I love, love, love the idea.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, well, you’re amazing, Cathy, thank you so much. To get in touch with Cathy, go to truenergyskincare.com, only one E between true and energy. And she’s got lots of amazing information and her products are awesome. I mean, I’ve been doing them now three or four days, already starting to notice a difference, which is really, really cool. Plus my just feel so much better, my skin does. So I’m excited to continue on the journey. And then also the free downloads Cathy has, please take advantage of those on our site here. And I know lots of people will be in touch with you, Cathy, and you’re going to help a lot more people. Thank you so much for being part of this today.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Oh, thank you, Tom. I so appreciate the space to be able to share. Thank you.

Tom McCarthy

Keep staying young and vibrant and healthy, you’re a great role model for all of us. See you soon, Cathy.

Dr. Cathy Goldstein

Bye-bye.