Tapping Into Your Superconscious Healing Ability

Tom McCarthy

Thanks, Keesha, and congratulations on 5.0, that’s amazing. Great job.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

5.0, I know. The years keep passing on through.

Tom McCarthy

That’s awesome.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

So I really like the idea that there’s a purpose to our illness, that somehow if we break through, then we come to a place of wisdom and learning that’s at a higher state and stage of development, and so what is the purpose of an illness? How does that work?

Tom McCarthy

I think it varies from person to person. Back in 2015, I got a virus. They didn’t know it was a virus. They thought I had a sinus infection, and so my doctor, who’s really good and very rarely would ever prescribe an antibiotic, had me on one because I was getting ready to fly to Hawaii and speak at a conference and I didn’t get better, and then I got back and he and I was traveling and I was going international and doing all sorts of crazy things, and so he gave me another dose, which it doesn’t help with the virus, and pretty much took out my immune system, and it scared the heck outta me because I wasn’t getting better, and so like a couple months in, I was really inflamed. I had no energy. I was seeing double. I mean, I thought I was dying and it was probably one of the scariest times of my life, and then finally discovered, actually through an energy healer, he was the one that told me you’ve got a virus, and he wasn’t even there locally with me. He tapped in from LA. I was down in San Diego and he said, “You got a little virus and so the antibiotics aren’t gonna help.” And I didn’t get better right away. I mean, he helped me out. He got rid of some of the pain, but it took me about six or seven months, and then I know you deal with a lot of people that go through this, but some doctors or people were saying, “Yeah, you know, some people struggle with it the rest of their life.” I go, “I’m not going to.” And so what I did was I found, if I ever have something come up, I don’t go to the internet and look, “Okay, what are the symptoms? What’s the average person do?” I find somebody that had it and got better. 

And so I did, but it took probably, I had to reprogram my mind. It took about seven or eight months, and it was almost like life was holding me down. I could barely get up and walk to the bathroom, and I think, for me, the lesson of it was I was going too fast, and as much as I believed in, and you know I do believe in meditation. I talk about it. I was doing some Qigong. I was going way too fast. I was traveling way too much, different time zones, not sleeping, and I think life gave me a wake up call and said, “Hey, if you don’t get this squared away now, you’re gonna have more serious things.” So for me, it was an amazing learning experience, and once I got over a little bit of the fear of thinking, “Oh my God, what’s wrong with me? I’m gonna die,” I learned a ton, and it was one of the most valuable experiences of my life, even though it was super painful. I had no energy. I could hardly function. It’s one of the really most beautiful experiences of my life, and it’s made me so much better seven years later.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

I’m so happy for that outcome. I’m so happy to see you standing there and being able to tell this story. So, what is this part of the mind that we have to access to, you know, quantum physics, Robert Lanza’s work in biocentric design. He talks about the studies that show that we literally have thousands, maybe even millions of probabilities, and the second the observer puts their focus on one of those possibilities or probabilities, the rest of them disappear, right? So what is this part of the mind that we need to use to observe the outcome that we want to have happen?

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, I call it the super conscious, but you’re absolutely right. I love your description you just gave. One of the examples I use in current times is what’s happening over in the Ukraine, right? You had the Russian military invade Ukraine, far superior in terms of numbers and fire power and planes, but you had a guy that literally was an alchemist, President. Zelensky, because as you said, every day we wake up and there’s there’s probabilities, right? And some are more likely and some are less likely, and probably one of the least likely probabilities is that Ukraine could rebuff this very, very powerful military for as long as they have, and actually defeat them to a certain extent, not completely, but he made that real, and, and not only that, he changed. because of his energy and the way he communicated, but the way he lived his energy, he shifted the world. 

There’s so many conflicts going on in the world right now that you and I don’t even know about, right, or care about because we don’t know, but that one we do because one human being stepped up and said, “Hey, we’re gonna win this thing, but we need some help.” And he shifted reality. He made a possibility of, I mean, think about all these sanctions that are going on. That’s never happened before. Never. He shifted that, along with his countrymen, and you know, their braveness, but we can do that, and the super conscious, I think is, and people call it the subconscious. I call it the super conscious, cause I think it’s just badass, right? When we really tap into it, 95% of what we do in our day is dictated by what resides down below our conscious level of thinking, and most people think the conscious level is just all we are, but it’s a portion of who you are. The conscious mind can process 40 bits of information per second, but the super conscious can process 40 million bits of information per second. I also, I don’t believe that the mind is just in the brain. I think we live within our minds. Our minds extend out beyond our body when you talk about energy, so, you know, my son, I taught him that always program your mind to always be in the right place at the right time.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

I wanna put a little pin right here, because this is really important, what you just said. For thousands of years, different Eastern philosophies have said this, the mind is not the brain, and you know, we have a heart mind and we have belly mind and we have skin mind and we have eye mind, and we have the mind that goes around our energy body and all of this is mind. And so this idea that we are going to program that mind and live in the mind, if we start thinking about, Gosh, you know, I think 94% of thoughts are ones we’ve already recycled over and over again.

Tom McCarthy

Even more than that, I think for sure.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Right, so this is so important what you’re saying. In Tibet and Buddhism, they say we perceive really quickly, but it takes 17 steps to get there, and how you’re doing it is how you’ve always done it unless you take a beat and you open up the space. They call it the doorway to karma and that 17 steps to perception and you actually do it differently, and then you’re creating a new pattern. So I love that you’re teaching your son this, so how did your son respond?

Tom McCarthy

Well, so yeah, a couple things. I have a couple stories about him, cause he’s a big believer in this now, so he programmed himself to always be in the right place at the right time, and he was working on a deal at the time to buy the company, Forbes, he and some partners. And so he went for a walk and he’d just done this programming for about a week and just always believing, but most people though, when they program, they’re like, “Okay, I’m always in the right place at the right time.” They don’t really believe it. They don’t see it, feel it, believe it, but he’s huge into believing the mind can do amazing things, so he believes I’m always in the right place at the right time. And he calls me up about a week later and he goes, “Dad, you’re never gonna believe what happened.” I said, “What?” He said, “Well, I’m walking down the street.” He lives up in West Hollywood, “And this guy’s jogging in the opposite direction, and all of a sudden he stops right in front of me.” And I said, “What?” He said, “Yeah”. And I said, “How old was he?” He said, “Dad, he’s like your age. He’s an old guy.” And I said, “What happened?” He said, “Well, he stopped, and he looked at me and he said, ‘I don’t know why I’m stopping. I don’t even run this way. I live in Beverly Hills. I never even run this way, but something tells me I need to talk to you.'” And my son’s like a little weirded out, but he goes, “Okay.” And the guy says, “What do you do?” And my son says, “I’m an investor.” My son’s 26-years-old, and the guy said, “Well, I’m an investor too,” and they talk for a couple minutes. 

He doesn’t really tell my son much about what he does, but he said, “Look, if there’s ever a reason to talk, here’s my email,” or he gave him something. He said, “Let me know, cause I don’t know why I stopped, but maybe there’s a reason for it.” And so my son goes back and looks him up. This guy’s a billionaire, and he runs a $4 billion private equity fund. So my son calls him up and he said, “Hey, I think I might have a reason to talk. We’re trying to buy Forbes, and would you be interested in taking a look at it?” And so the guy says, “Yeah, I’ll take a look at it.” And so two days later they have lunch. He goes, “I like it, but I wanna have another guy look at it.” So they had dinner two days later, those two guys that my son met literally from what most people say a coincidental meeting on a sidewalk they.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Kismet, right, yeah?

Tom McCarthy

Both committed a hundred million each to that deal.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Wow.

Tom McCarthy

But my son, in 2019, he was a basketball player at Harvard and he had a bad concussion, so he sat out a year. He had a year left to play. He went to a school called Rice University for his fifth year and was working on his MBA. He goes in the beginning of the year and he’s got this crippling pain in his hip and his knee, and then he was getting therapy on that. Nothing was really working, and then his back went out. You know, 23-year-old kid, he can’t even walk, and he’s a fit athlete. They take him into one of the best hospitals in Houston. Orthopedic guy does it. They do the MRI. They look at him. They say, “Hey, you’ve got one the largest herniated disc we’ve ever seen in someone your age, and you know, we need to put steroids in, shoot you up.” So my son didn’t really know what to do, and his trainer’s saying he had to do it, so he went in, they put him under, he did that, didn’t work. He still had this pain. I told him, “Look, a lot of pain, chronic pain is mind body pain. Yeah, you’ve got a herniated disc, but you don’t have to be in pain,” and so my son listened to John Sarno’s book, “The Mindbody Prescription”. Just listen to it. That’s all he did, listened to it three times and his pain went away. It’s never come back. He’s probably still has a herniated disc, but he doesn’t care cause he is not in pain.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

We use that as a verb, Sarno.

Tom McCarthy

What’s that?

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Sarno it, we used it as a verb.

Tom McCarthy

Sarno it, yeah, exactly, but, and so he’s a huge believer in the mind, but what happened literally and you talk about this, like people think, “My body’s the problem”, and the body is just a reflection of what the mind is producing in your health, in your wealth, in your relationships, everything. So it’s that super conscious mind that we need to work with. We need to remove the junk. I mean, I had lots of things I had to go down in there and find and get out before I could heal and then put in some better stuff that allowed me to operate in a more healthy way.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

It’s so interesting because in Ayurvedic medicine, which is a 10,000 year old sister science of yoga, they talk about we’re the microcosm of the macrocosm of the universe. I just interviewed Dr. Gerald Pollack on water, and he’s talking about the same thing, when you have the proper kind of structure or easy water that is more of a gel than a liquid, it takes the cell and it pushes out anything that shouldn’t be in there, and so here we are talking about the mind doing the same thing, right? Pushing out of that thought cell, that thought bubble, what should not be there so that you can have the healthy, life-giving force that will give you all the vitality in all the areas of your life that you’re looking for.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, yeah, and the challenge with the super conscious is it doesn’t judge. If you were putting thoughts in there that, “Life is tough. I’m not a healthy person. My parents have had these diseases, so I’ll probably have them too.” If that’s what’s in your super conscious, down below the conscious part of your mind, then you are creating that. The mind’s not gonna go, “Hey, Keesha, that’s not really good for you. You should change that.” Your conscious mind may, but your super conscious is gonna just go, “Hey, she wants us to produce the same illness that her parents had, so get at it. Let’s go, let’s create that.” And that’s what people don’t understand. They think, “Well, you know, my life’s tough. It’s not fair.” We’ve created it. We have created it, whatever it is, and not always consciously, because, and you know this better than I do, but from zero to age six or seven, we absorb pretty much everything, so we absorb all the disempowering beliefs and experiences and thought patterns of our parents, our community, off things where now you see parents entertain their kids by putting them on iPads, and so all that kind of stuff literally is going in because we’re in an alpha state at an early age, and there’s a lot of stuff I had early on that was pretty stressful and traumatic. My dad was killed in Vietnam when I was three. My mom really struggled emotionally, financially, and I’ve had to work through a lot of that stuff in order to heal and become better, but it’s work. It is work, and I think we’re all gonna have to work on ourselves and our minds til the day we take our last breath, if we wanna optimize ourselves.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

So you have a book called “The Breakthrough Code”, and so I think you have some keys to creating a health breakthrough that you’ve listed out in there. What are those?

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, so it’s not about just health, it’s about anything, but a lot of people are using it for health. So there’s three big ideas. Number one is focus on, if you wanna create a breakthrough, so a breakthrough is like a huge positive experience where you’re elevating yourself. You’re elevating part of your life, cause I believe we can live a life without limits. It doesn’t mean that everything’s working perfectly, but it means where we’re stuck, we have the ability, the mind is unbelievable, like the mind allowed my son to connect with a billionaire that was the perfect person to help fund that deal. He didn’t do that on his own. He didn’t go, “Okay, this guy’s walking. I’m gonna meet him.” He didn’t know who the guy was. His mind did that, right, cause his mind extends out beyond him. So with the first big idea for the breakthrough, where you wanna create a breakthrough is focus on less and then obsess, which just means if you take your mind and all the energy it can produce, but you water it down by having it kind of evenly focused on everything, like a thousand things, very hard to create a breakthrough. Breakthroughs require focus. They require you be with your mind more laser-like than a light bulb, like a light bulb will light up a whole room. A laser will cut through a diamond. 

So you need a laser in on what is it you really want? And with health, like you’ve gotta laser in on what does, not just, I wanna be healthy, like, what exactly does that look like? What does it feel like? What does it sound like? And then focus in on that. And then the obsessed part is program it down into the super conscious. You don’t need to consciously be thinking, “Okay, I need to be healthier. I need to be healthier. I want this level of health.” You do need to focus on it a couple times a day when you’re in an alpha state, so when you wake up, when you go to bed, right before you go to bed, right when you wake up, perfect time, program in, see it, feel it, believe it, and that’s a struggle. That was hard for me when I was not feeling well to even imagine again like, “What does it feel like to feel well?” What does it look like? But once I was able to carve that into my mind, now the super conscious took hold, so that’s the first big idea. I dunno if you want me to stop there or go to the the next two also.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Absolutely, keep going.

Tom McCarthy

Okay, so once you gather the focus and you really start programming, and when I say see it, feel it, and believe it, that’s daily work, but it’s a few minutes a day, and once you can see it, the mind doesn’t work with just saying, “I am healthy,” just an affirmation, “I’m healthy”. It needs to see a picture of it like, what does it look like when you’re healthy? What are you doing? What activities are you able to do? What does it feel like really feel in your mind, carve into your mind that that feeling of what it feels like to feel really, really great. And everything’s created twice, which, you know, first inside then outside. We’re working on the creation on the inside of us, and then believe. Belief is just a feeling of certainty. Create a level of certainty. This is the hardest part for people because they go, “How can I believe in it when I’m sick and I’ve got this disease and I’ve diagnosed with this?” If you buy into that and you allow yourself to only believe, once a doctor tells you you’re healthy, it’s gonna be a lot longer and much more of a struggle to get healthy. When you start creating it inside and carve it in, it gets easier. Now the second big idea is upgrade your story, upgrade your life. And I usually like to ask, like, I might have asked you this before, What’s the most powerful story you’ll ever hear?

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Hmm. I don’t know.

Tom McCarthy

The one we tell ourselves, right, so now we’ve got a focus that we believe in. We can see it, feel it, and believe it. Now we need a story to support it, and there’s two things like if you just tried put in, you know, a powerful, uplifting story of who you are, what you’re capable of, what your immune system can do, whatever it is, but it’s on a foundation of limiting beliefs and old stories that don’t serve you. It’s on a weak foundation, so I think there’s two things we need to do with our story. We need to identify what part of our story do we have to part with, do we have to let go of, and not have down in our super conscious, in order for us to heal? And so part of what I had depart with like early on just was a little bit of a belief, like chronic fatigue takes years to heal. Now I got over that really quickly, cause I said, “No, I don’t believe that.” Then I got it out. And I’m just like, “All right, who’s done it quickly?” And then I just found some role models, and I interviewed them and found out their story, and I started telling myself the same story, so your story is pretty much everything, cause it causes you to view the world in a certain way, and it also feeds into your super conscious. 

Then the third thing you’ve gotta do, so number one, focus on less, like really focus in on a few things, doesn’t mean you can’t do other things, but put some energy and effort into what you really want and then create an obsession down below in the super conscious, upgrade your story, upgrade your life. And then the third big idea is pack your day with effective action. If you wanna heal, what are you gonna do during the day to heal? Are you gonna do like I do, like sit in a chair and meditate at least twice a day? Are you gonna do Qigong? Effective action, I’m not saying you’ve gotta like, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, effective action, I believe is the way to go. It’s effort times effectiveness equals results, and that’s where people like you and your summit, you give people the effective actions, the things that’ll really move the needle, and then that creates faster results and way better results. It’s not just working hard and grinding and sweating all the details. I mean, you gotta put some effort into it, but it’s effectiveness that actually increases your results.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

I think this is such an important point that you’re making because after, oh, I don’t know movies like “The Secret” came out, I think sometimes people in Eastern philosophy, they’ll call some of these principles, the near enemy to truth, right, that you can visualize and you can manifest, but it’s not sitting on a meditation cushion and imagining it, you actually have to get up then and take some action, right? Yeah, and I think that part got left behind a little bit, that you have to take some time and bring it into the receptivity channels, which you could think of as on the left side, and then on the right side, you take action, so that there’s always this flow going in your energy field with the rest of the universe.

Tom McCarthy

Here’s what I believe that happens though, is if you got the right level of focus in the super conscious and you’ve got the right story, your actions will be guided. You literally will intuitively know what to do, even in,

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

That’s the part about bringing it in, like you have to be quiet to receive, right? You have to take that time because some people are so activity oriented, they’re on a hamster wheel doing a million things just like what you said, and they’re not being quiet to get that inspiration first.

Tom McCarthy

That’s right, or they’re kind of like a bull in a china shop. You know, people take massive action, and when you’re not feeling well and you’re ill, massive action is probably destructive, like you’re taking way too many supplements. You’re seeing 58 different doctors, by the way, things that I’ve done in the past. That’s part of what I was doing when I first got chronic fatigue. I’m like, okay, I’d read, I’d take this supplement, this supplement, this supplement. Well, this doctor didn’t help me yet, so I’m gonna go to that doctor, and I was taking massive action. It wasn’t the right action.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

I’d like for people to hear this, cause this is one of the patterns. Another one is just to sit still and hope it changes because you’re visualizing it, so these are two opposite ends that are imbalanced, right, and a lot of people that are more drivers in the world will do exactly what you said. When I got diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, when I was 30, I did the same thing. I was doing everything that I could lay my hands on, and of course that doesn’t work. Doesn’t work. Yeah, you can overload your system, and of course, there’s also the idea that if I do all of these things, then I’m going to get this very specific outcome instead of really listening and asking the body, what’s the feedback you’re trying to give me? What is it? How can I support you? How can I support you?

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, and then the other thing too, I think is expectations. You know, that concept has gotten beat up recently, like, don’t expect. I think you should expect the final result. That’s what you want to see, feel, and believe, but don’t get too caught up in how it’s gonna happen. Don’t don’t say, “Okay, well I did this, so now I better see something in the outside world right now, because five minutes ago I worked really hard on my mind,” and it’s probably not gonna happen like that. As a matter of fact, if you think it’s gonna happen like that, it certainly won’t happen like that. It’ll be more surprising. It’ll be much more, I think, magical usually, and sometimes it comes with setbacks, I think, as we start to work on changing our mind, and when I say mind, I’m talking about the super conscious mind, not just changing your mind on a topic or something. We usually get a little bit of adversity, right, because the mind is trying to say, “Hey, wait a minute. 

Do you really want to shift off what we’re doing?” And then most people, when they face that adversity, they go, “Oh yeah, see, it didn’t work,” versus that should be the sign, like dig in, like, this is a beautiful opportunity for you to get even stronger, and in my book, it’s actually a, I don’t call it a novel, but it’s a parable, and so it’s this person going through this tough experience, challenges with his health, his relationship, his business, and then eventually figuring out, through these wonderful mentors that are pretty diverse, so there’s like a female CEO of a tech company. There’s a person who had been in prison that came out and rebuilt his life and very, very successful, so there’s some pretty cool mentors in it that allow this person to understand that adversities are gonna be potentially part of it. Now, one thing I’ve bought into lately though, cause I used to think growing up like, “Life’s tough. You have adversity. It’s really good.” Right? And I do think it is good, but also I think we can learn just as much without adversity, if we keep ourself in a growth mindset and we’re constantly growing, so I think that’s super important too, is not to bring the adversity on, cause the adversity is usually showing up because we’ve slacked off a little bit or we need a little kick in the butt to really get us over to where we need to go.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

It’s interesting cause I’ve been crossing that threshold too of, I think I have a template that only suffering brings learning. I think I can probably shift that.

Tom McCarthy

That’s a really important one to shift and I’ve had to do that too.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Yeah, yeah, I’m 57 and I’m thinking, I think it’s time to retire that tablet.

Tom McCarthy

Isn’t it funny though? Like, I’m 61, but even though, and you’re still a baby compared to me, but here we are, in later life so to speak or at least when I was young, I thought, “Wow, someone’s 60 years old, they’re really old,” and we’re still working on ourselves.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Right.

Tom McCarthy

We’re still finding the chinks in the armor and going all right, boom, get that out of there, and I think it’s such a beautiful thing, and also a really great example because I think a lot of people think you or people that are very successful, it’s like, everything’s perfect and they’re complete and they don’t have to do any work and no we’re working our tails off every day, just like bringing out that next best version of ourselves.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Yeah. I always say, this is not a passive observer kind of a experience. This is a never take your eye off the ball experience of what your mind is saying, doing, thinking, feeling, because your actions are following it, so that’s really, really great, and you’re right, you know, no matter how old you are, there’s always something that you’ll be able to uncover.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, I’m so much smarter at 61 than I was even at 60 or 59 like, we’re just continuing to grow. I wasn’t even in this health realm. I was always passionate and I knew many people in the health realm through helping run Tony Robbins company when I was in my twenties, but literally just last year, we did two summits. We did the Global Energy Healing Summit, which you were on our second one. We did one in September, had 50,000, then we did one just a couple months ago and we had, I think almost 70,000 people. It’s all new to me. Like, I didn’t know any of this up until last year, and then just started a company, put the summit on, I learned a ton, but you have to be open to doing that type thing, and you know, to me, it’s fun though. It’s fun to learn. It’s fun to learn from you.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

I feel the same way, which is why I like doing these cause I get to talk to such amazing people and learn from them, so that’s yeah. So you have a free gift that you’re providing our audience, Peak Performance Paraliminal for brainwave and treatment. You wanna talk a little bit about that?

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, it’s something I did a few years back where, I did it with a gentleman, Paul Scheele from Learning Strategies and paraliminal is really interesting, so it’s hypnosis, he’s on it. I’m on it. We’ll help you get into a deeper level of consciousness and then we will talk you through right brain, left brain, so you’re gonna have two voices coming at you. It’s something that Dr. Milton Erickson used to do, double induction, so your conscious mind kind of gets confused, like, “Where do I focus on,” and so it can go down into the super conscious much easier, and so it’s a lot of fun. There’s two sessions on how to raise your level performance in anything, and it’s pretty easy. You just pop in some headphones, sit back, relax. You might even fall asleep, but I hope everybody enjoys those.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Summit host is gonna take advantage of this too, so yes, absolutely. Thank you for that. And then for those that are buying the all access pass, our VIPs Inner Circle that want to keep this information forever to be able to listen to some of the practices that have been shared by all of our experts, there’s a bonus that you have for them too, some videos from your Breakthrough Code masterclass and a copy of your book, “The Breakthrough Code”. That’s so generous.

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, so there’ll be a link and they’ll get a copy of the book, “The Breakthrough Code”, so this is the book, “The Breakthrough Code”, and I hope they enjoy it. We’ve gotten phenomenal feedback on it so far and it has been the best seller’s list, and then they’ll also get a masterclass that I put together that normally is $500 or $495, but I think there’s gonna be obviously a special price that you’ll be able to get it at, but it’s 14 coaching sessions that I’ve done that takes the concepts in the book, and I hope you still read the book cause I think it’s gonna be a fun read for you, but it just takes you deeper into it, and it actually has you do the exercises, like how do I get rid of a thought that keeps popping up? Well, we will show you in the book, but in the master class I’ll lead you through at an even deeper level, how to start getting some of these things out, and that’s just one little experience that you’ll get from there.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Beautiful, thank you so much, Tom. Is there anything that we haven’t covered that you would like to leave with our audience?

Tom McCarthy

No, I think it’s been great and hopefully we’ll have more conversations in the future. I know we’re doing a summit in 2023 and we’d love to have you on again, so I’m sure we’ll talk a lot more in the future.

Keesha Ewers, PhD, ARNP-FNP-C, AAP, IFM-C​

Would love to be there. Thank you and everyone until next time, be well.