Through. Welcome, everyone, to the Marcel Summit. I'm here with my dear friend and colleague, Julie Shipman, and we're going to be talking about how to use EFT and tapping to help relieve stress and remain calm, especially when we're dealing with such sensitivities.

So welcome, Julie. It's always an honor to talk to you. Thank you. Thank you for having me. So happy to see you today as always. Oh, well, we have worked alongside many patients together, and I've just seen your incredible work and it's a huge piece to this puzzle when we're working with chronically ill people.

And I'm really happy that we're, you know, having this, task in the Marcel Summit because I think just as all of these talks are very important to understand the physiology and how to support the physical body.

This is a key piece that I think that sometimes people think are an afterthought. Or maybe that's like supportive, but they don't really quite understand that, like many of the root causes actually are in this layer.

And this, you know, what we're gonna be talking about. So I just want you to share a little bit about how you got into tapping and what are we we're, like, even talking about.

So I've been tapping for over 25 years. I think it's been at this point and, it's an amazing, stress management tool and anyone can use it. It is quick, it's effective.

It is it's beyond simple and it's just so easy to use. And it's something that anybody and everybody can use. And, it, it can help with just about anything and everything.

So it can help with pain. It can help reduce stress. It can help to reduce blood pressure. It can, help with brain fog. It can help with just I mean, you name it, you know, you think about it and, and reduces cortisol.

So it helps in so many ways and what it actually is. And then I'll tell you how I got into this. But what it actually is is it looks like this. And so it's a really gentle tapping.

You can do it with two hands. You can do it with one hand. You can do it, you know, either side it doesn't matter. But it is a combination of ancient Chinese acupuncture and modern psychology that works to physically alter your brain, your body, and your energy system all at the same time.

By tapping on these particular meridian points. So these are all just points that are connected to meridian pathways in the body. And I'm sure most people watching this are familiar already with what that is.

And so what we're doing when we're tapping is we're also talking about the pain, or we're talking about the stress, or we're talking about whatever it is that's creating a challenge for us.

Okay. And the process of talking about it and tapping through it and accepting what it is that we're going through allows this energy to move through us.

Because what we know is that when we are struggling with an emotion or a pain, a challenge, an illness, whatever it is, if we're not able to, if we don't process what's going on, if we don't process our thoughts around it or our beliefs around it or the emotions around it, then it can get stuck and stored in our body.

And when that happens, then that's when the pain gets bigger or that's when, you know, mentally, emotionally, it becomes much bigger than it might actually be, where we just become so overwhelmed and so frustrated.

And so it is a tool, again, that I've been using for over 25 years. And, my background just to tell you, is that I'm a, I'm a social worker. I was actually I have a master's degree in social work, and I used to work in high school.

And I'll just give you a really brief background on this, but when I was working with students, I was starting to get panic attacks and like, debilitating, horrible panic attacks.

And so here I am trying to help students, with anxiety or depression or challenges in their own life. And all I want to do is like, run out of the room.

You know, I'm like just in a complete panic mode. And so obviously I needed some help. And so whatever, I went into therapy, which was great, but I also connected with a very dear friend of mine who does energy work, and he wasn't doing tapping or EFT.

He wasn't doing this, but he was doing other energy work, and he was touching different points, and he was muscle testing, and he was kind of showing me how emotions were blocking certain parts of my body and that I needed to, like, works through some things.

And within a couple of sessions, only a couple of sessions. And prior to this, my father had passed away a few months earlier, and I didn't really process those emotions.

And so because those were sort of buried there, what ultimately ended up happening is that when we don't listen to the symptoms, the symptoms that initially are little whispers, right?

The small symptoms, when we don't pay attention to them, they just get bigger and bigger and bigger. And so, I don't know, you went away and I, I don't know if it's me or you, but of course, you know, it's all good.

I know if we're going to, we're going to just stop, and it will be edited where your father passed away and just start there. So. Okay. Okay. And then we'll start again.

I'm just I do think Mercury supplements and retrograde. Okay, I get it. The joys of technology. It's just, where your father passed away. It's a good thing.

So a few months earlier, my father had passed away, and I didn't really deal with those emotions. And we know that what I have learned over the years is that, you know, initially, it probably didn't start out as panic attacks.

There were probably very small whispers of different symptoms that I was having, but I wasn't willing to look at it or pay attention to it. And so it grew and it grew and it grew.

And the thing about anxiety is that it wants to be heard. And then when we know that it definitely wants to be heard, and it will get louder until you listen to it and understand it.

And the same goes with physical symptoms for us. And so fast forwarding, I ended up getting connected with Doctor Mercola, who I know you are familiar with.

And I worked for him for over 15 years, and, he was the way I started with him was he was like, I'm looking for someone. He's like, I, you know, I can tell people what foods to eat and what supplements to take.

And, you know, and the exercise and the water and the food intake and all of that. Like, I could teach people all of that stuff, but what people don't understand is that emotions play a very huge part in healing and what goes on in the body.

And so he said he told me he had heard of emotional freedom technique, also known as tapping. And he said, I want you to go and learn everything about it and then come back and work for me.

And so I quit my job at the high school and, and I started working for him. And I was like, this tapping thing was the craziest thing I had ever seen.

You know, like, people looked at me like I had three heads. You know, and like what? Like you just tap on yourself. You just touch on yourself like this, and all of a sudden, all my problems are going to be better.

But the bottom line is, yes. I mean, it's like, actually fascinating. And it never ceases to amaze me when people are like, you're not going to believe this, but I don't feel that pain anymore, or I can't even believe this, but that brain fog has just gone away.

It's just lifted. And I mean, I just hear it over and over and over and over again. And I've seen thousands and thousands of clients, you know, within a 25 year time frame.

And so after learning that, I mean, I never looked back to even though there's a good place for traditional therapy, of course. I mean, I highly recommend therapy, but, as you and I were talking about before, I think that every therapist, every practitioner should have these energy modalities as part of their toolbox.

Because one of the great things about tapping is that you can use it on your own. You know, a lot of the things you have to wait to go and see your practitioner, you know, Tuesday at 1:00 and and that's all fine and good.

You know, I mean, we all need our helpers and healers around us and to help us. But one of the great things about tapping is that it can take just a few minutes to relieve stress, to relieve tension, to feel better in our body, to feel better in our mind, feel more content.

And so I am a huge, huge, huge supporter and cheerleader of tapping. As you know, I love it. I love your story in that personal experience, right? It just helps us to relate and share this from, you know, the mountaintops even more, right?

When you have like experiences and obviously have created the, career path that we're so blessed that you chose. So, so there's a few things to touch on here.

I loved what you said, and I think it's an important, especially because it's so counter to kind of the mainstream paradigm of how we look at you know, symptoms and health.

Like the more that we try to kind of suppress things, the louder they get. I thought that was really brilliant. And anxiety is something really common in our patient population.

And I think it's natural, you know, that anxiety, not only from the experience of being sick, but often whatever, led to the being sick in the first place.

So I just wanted to present that, because in modern day, you know, we do a lot of things to like, okay, how do we, turn it off or shut it down or compartmentalize?

And I just want people to know who are listening, that it's so like when you have the right support around you to really express and feel and allow these things to move through you and out of you, like, this is where things, you know, get unblocked and start to flow.

So I just wanted to like, pick that out because it's so important. Anything to add or any other like anecdotes around that. But I think it's just, again, where we have a lot of education, I think, to do still about how to look at symptoms.

Absolutely. Well, I think the one thing and it's such a good point, right, that you bring up and I think, you know, what gets lost, people get so stuck in their symptoms and they get stuck in the story of the symptoms.

I mean, I think that part is just so huge. They get stuck in the story of it. And it's understandable. Anyone who's dealing with a chronic illness with chronic pain, it's hard not to write because you want to sort of head it off before it happens, like you want to avoid getting the symptoms.

And so, you know, you sort of create this, you know, this a whole different world for yourself so that you can sort of avoid that. But, you know, underlying that, I think some people don't really think about the underlying emotions with that.

And so, you know, people again, dealing with, chronic illness, chronic pain, that sort of thing, these are people and people who are listening. You all understand, right?

You have lost the, the, the that part of you maybe that used to be energetic, that part of you that used to be hard working and you could just get up and go, or you could get up and exercise, or you could get up and go to a party and go out for dinner with your friends.

You know. So there is a part of, you know, that misses who they used to be. Right? And then there is a part that probably feels really isolated, because with people who suffer again, with chronic illness, people don't really understand, especially if they quote unquote look, okay, because a lot of people present as you and I, as just looking fine, you know, or looking healthy.

But inside, you know, they're in pain and they're dealing with sensitivities and they are of a ton of anxiety. You know, they are tired of not having energy.

They are maybe in constant pain or constant discomfort and not knowing what symptoms might set them off. And so these thoughts that are constantly going through their heads is creates a stress in and in and of itself, which is so big.

It's so big. And that's really where tapping comes in. You know, tapping may not quote unquote cure everything. You know, it might not be the actual cure, but what it does is it helps to alleviate some of that stress.

It takes that burden off. And when you're able to step back from the stress and get to take a step back from the story surrounding it, then you start to feel better.

You know, obviously stress and physical discomfort are very closely associated. So when we're under a great deal of stress, symptoms can definitely be exacerbated and get bigger and bigger and bigger.

And so if you can find a way to reduce the stress, then why not just try it and see how it works for you? You know, it just it works so well for that.

Yeah. Yeah, there's a really low risk rate to try. This is very low risk. Yeah. All the other things that we ask patients to do. Right. You know. Absolutely.

So this is just like really a safe, you know, thing to try with such a profound potential for reward. And I love how you also preface this. It's not a quote cure to weren't always looking for those magic bullets.

And you know, really how I've been trained and how I really think, we need to look at the body, right? Is that our job is to know and trust. Of course, the innate intelligence of the body knows how to heal, but we have to facilitate and allow how to remove these layers of stress so the body can self-regulate me, heal when it gets out of balance.

And so it's really even those these things are really complex. It's really simple at the same time, you know. So this is a huge, huge piece. Anything to add to that before I as well?

No, but I was just going to just jumping on that. I was just going to say, you know, kind of as you know, we mentioned before, it's like, you know, you can give people you as a doctor can give people a protocol and say, you know, it'd be really important.

It would be smart of you, you know, take these supplements and, get this sort of rest and, you know, eat foods. Definitely stay away from these foods and, you know, and that sort of thing.

And so people can look at their list and say, okay, I need to take this supplement, I need to take this, or I need to do this at this time, I need to go to bed a little earlier, right?

So they can look at their list and they can kind of say, these are the things that I can do and check off my list that will be helpful to me. And the one thing I think most people don't understand for themselves even, is how do emotions even fit into this?

Like, how do I even begin to look at the emotions? Like, I don't even know where to start with this. I can't even think straight. How can I even begin to look at what the emotions are and where to go with this?

Like, it just might seem so overwhelming. The other stuff might seem a little bit more simpler, even though it might seem, challenging or hard in some way, to change diet and to add things in and to create more of a protocol that might seem like a challenge to people, understandably.

Right when you have to change your life so much. But the emotional piece of it is also such a big piece in understanding how to add that in for yourself is really important.

I love that, I think that's such a great, you know, suggestion. And we'll do a tapping exercise at the end that people can experience and have in their toolkit.

And we'll share also truly has done so many videos on YouTube for you to, check out. But I love that because that's so true. Like, I mean, and I just having a light bulb moment, I'm like, I should just make, you know, even before maybe see practitioner like, you just have patients start to get to know this modality and give them like, just like brushing your teeth, you're going to be tapping you know.

And so and that's the, you know, an introduction. And the body can start gently nudging. And I also, you know, think too that we say, a lot of us who do this work, the issues are the tissues.

Right. And so, you know, we get so focused about, okay, talking about ourselves. Right? Okay. All the things that trigger and all the things that stabilize things and how to reduce toxicants and pathogens and all of these physical things that are really, of course, important.

And part of the equation. But we, we often, you know, forget or maybe don't, you know, give it the importance of the needs is that, you know, really, there are things called essential memory and emotions.

You know, that would be a whole nother lecture. But there is emotional, you know, imprints, you know, stored in the fascia and then the connective tissue and in the, in the physical body.

And so as you move these, you know, physical things, you're tapping on the door of emotions, whether you like it or not, that are stuck in, you know, these tissues.

And then there's like this whole other, of course, world that I think needs to be explored about how emotions are. We know through psycho neuro immunology, are probably also communicating with mast cells in a way that we probably, still had to learn.

Or maybe I just haven't gone down that rabbit hole and studied enough. It's probably not our fingertips to know that this is just as important as taking your quercetin.

You should have this right, you know? So I, I think it's I really appreciate the education you're sharing. Yeah. And, you know, it's interesting. And I learned this not that long ago, actually.

Is that the life of an emotion like, from beginning to end is actually 90s. And I was, like, shocked to hear that the life of an emotion is 90s. But what happens within that 90s is sometimes we can just say, oh, this makes me sad. And then, you know, we can sort of move on from it.

But when we attach a story to it, so we start number one, we start ruminating about the emotion, right? So let's just say we're feeling angry or frustrated or that sort of thing.

You know what? What happened outside of us that made us feel that way. And and then we start to create a story around it. Right? So whether it's about, what somebody else did or whether it's about the fear that someone is feeling about what's going on in their body, and how can I stop this?

Like, oh my God, this feels terrible. I have this terrible brain fog, or I'm getting this, you know, bad pain in my arms or my fingers or whatever. And I'm not going to be able to do this or I'm not going to be able to lift my children or my grandchildren, or I'm not going to be able to, you know, go to have dinner with my friends tonight or that sort of thing.

And so a story and beliefs, right? It starts to the whole thing starts to get created, where we start thinking over and over and over again, and then it becomes bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.

So this 92nd emotion, that's a life of this emotion that really could be only 90s could turn in today's right. Because we if we don't process it, if we don't learn how to process it and move it through, then it has no choice.

But I mean, emotions are just energy, right? Emotions are energy in our body. You know, we have a thought. It creates a feeling in our body. And, and then that goes back to more thoughts.

But it, it just it, it can get bigger and bigger and bigger. And when it lands somewhere in the body and whether it be in the fascia, whether it be in our ligaments, whether it be in our cells, whether it be in an organ, a gland, a chakra, whatever it is, if we don't process it, then it's kind of what we talked about earlier is that it's just going to get bigger and bigger and bigger until you have no choice but to listen to it.

And so with a tool like tapping, you know, obviously there are great tools out there, right? There's meditation and there is, there's all sorts of things that we can do to help ourselves to feel better.

Tapping just happens to be one that, you know, I think is amazing. And that it can be relatively quick and it's more frenetic if people don't like to just, you know, be quiet.

But I lost my train of thought there anyway. So, you know, if we're able to look at how am I feeling right now? You know, I'm feeling angry about this.

I'm feeling frustrated about this. And so if you can take a moment and do some tapping on it and create the shift right then then it has nowhere to go.

Then it's done, then you've moved it through and it's gone. And ultimately it's a what I call a win win. Because not only are you winning in the sense of it feels better emotionally and mentally to you, but it also starts to feel better in your body.

You start to notice that you are feeling more relaxed and more calm in your body. And so it's a win win all around. Yeah. You know, I, I love that. And when you say I mean that's new to me too, that an emotion has a 92nd life span.

I think about two year old or maybe an a four year old. And to see the, an explosion of emotions, this explosion and then hopefully. Right, you know, in 90s but I, you know, we can see that right in our kiddos and then they shake it off and move, you know, move along.

So I think that's really, quite brilliant, to, to know that and, you know, that is such an empowering story because I think we can think that these things are, you know, we just are destined to feel this way or work and, and just, you know, perpetuate, you know, feeling angry or anxious, you know, for forever when we have a lot more, ways into, what these tools, ways to shift that and not stay stuck in that.

So I, I think it's, you know, a lot of the work is helping unstuck people. Right. So, it's very technical term. Right? So yeah, it's a very you know, it's funny, I was just thinking about a client who not that long ago, and she's and she's been dealing with a lot of chronic stuff.

A lot of not maybe not myself specifically, but just dealing with a lot of chronic things in her body. And one of the things, has been more digestive stuff, you know, IBS and, bloating.

Bloating. Yes. And bloating. A lot of bloating and, you know, constipation, that sort of thing. A lot of inconsistency. So anyway, we were doing some tapping around it, you know, because she was like, you know, she actually eats really well.

Like, she eats impeccably better than I think most people I've ever met. Like she is really impeccable with her food and so she can't read. So I think it's harder for people to understand.

They're like, I do everything I'm supposed to do, everything they've told me. And she's like, but I just can't seem to move through this. And so in talking about it, well, when did this start?

Well, it started when I had children like 12, eight years ago, I think eight years ago or something like that. All right. So let's talk about that for a minute.

You know, like what was that like? It was her after her last child was born. And let's talk about what that was like for you. And she starts like whispering, maybe it's a zoom call.

And she starts whispering. And she was like, actually, I have some regrets about it. And, you know, her kids were like around probably or something. And so I'm like, okay, let's talk about that.

And so, you know, because she, she didn't really I mean, she knew that it started after she had kids, but, you know, has never really she had a lot of shame around having some regrets.

She loves her children absolutely more than anything in the world. But it changed her life in ways, obviously, that we all know. Anybody who has children understands, you know, it just change changes life, right?

And so there was she was on a different path. And she I think she was only planning on having one child. She wasn't planning on having the second one.

And it was a surprise. And anyway, again, loves her kids. But the bottom line was that, she had some regrets about things that she wasn't able to do and how it changed her life and whatever.

And so in doing, in addressing those emotions, again, she was not she had so much shame around it that she didn't share it. So this is all thoughts and emotions that became trapped in her body because she didn't.

She would never tell like her husband. She wouldn't tell her friends because that made her seem like she would be a bad parent, that she would be a bad mother for saying these things out loud, which isn't true.

But then by voicing it and tapping on all the feelings around it, right? All the regrets, the frustrations, whatever the emotions were that came up around it, the sadness, all of that, she couldn't digest the the changes in her life, all of that.

And so she then once she addressed all of that, she was then able to notice changes were happening. Suddenly she wasn't so bloated anymore, and suddenly she was digesting her food differently.

And suddenly she, you know, she was able to move bowels and she was able to, you know, all of those things. And so that's like a perfect example of how emotions play such a big part, you know, in what's physical, physiologically is going on in our body.

And once she addressed it and now she's like, moving on, moving forward with her life in a way where she can appreciate her life, appreciate her children, and, you know, have some forgiveness for herself and for things that happened in the past.

Move on, move forward and start digesting. I love that I love that story. And I think that illustrates this idea of having to be perfect and you still have symptoms and, and the masked so you know world two, it's like understandably because people have been traumatized and there's so much fear.

There's the other idea of if I control my environment and I avoid all my triggers and I really, you know, you know, do what I can to feel empowered because it's obviously very painful to go through these experiences.

But people still react even with controlling their environment to the, you know, greatest extent. So I really think, again, you're listening out there and you've tried everything and you're still not getting the results.

This is a huge, huge, huge area to explore. So, I'm so excited for all the people who might have a light bulb right now. So, Julie, tell me about these patients.

That we're talking to are highly sensitive, right? Yeah, for all the reasons. And they're you know, obviously we look at sensitivity to when people are highly sensitive, that there's an energetic sensitivity that, you know, they may or may not be aware of.

Right. And so there are patients who have reported even like tapping on their physical body on these meridians, actually flares them. And so, have you experienced that?

Is there anything that you can make sense of? And then how do we like, get people to start tapping even when they're in that really sensitive state? Absolutely. So I definitely have had clients over the years that have had those sensitivities.

And the beautiful thing about tapping is that you don't necessarily have to be tapping like this. So there are a couple different things that people can do and that people have found to be really helpful.

And yes, it's all energy, right? It's all based on energy. It's based on intention as well. And so if you are someone who is sensitive and this feels really sensitive or it feels like it's on fire, or it just feels like this is really painful.

There are a couple different things that you can do. So one of those things is, you can touch you can touch these points so you don't have to tap, you can touch and you can just you can even just touch and breathe.

And so if that feels good to you, that's something that you can do. You can just, you know, and keep moving the fingers. If you don't want to keep moving the fingers, you can just if there's one point that feels good, a lot of times this is a point that feels good to people or even, you know, there's a collarbone point right here. Yep.

And so people can just put their fingers there and breathe. You know, you can do that too. Or so you don't necessarily have to be tapping okay. And that can be really calming, really soothing for people.

Another thing that people can do is, you can put your fingers above the points. And so you don't necessarily have to even make contact with the points.

So what I'm doing here is I'm just holding it like, right. A you know, I'm holding it like above like that. I'm not I'm not actually touching it. So I'm like an inch away, maybe a few centimeters away.

And you can move your fingers like this. And if you do that and you pay attention to it, you probably feel the heat. Even, you know, you can feel the heat from your fingers there.

And so you know that that energy is still making contact even though you are not actually tapping like this. And the last thing that you can do, and one thing that I highly recommend for people who have a hard time sleeping at night is, you can close your eyes and just imagine yourself tapping.

We call it imagine tapping or imaginary tapping something like that. And so you can actually close your eyes or keep them open, whatever you choose. But if you're having a hard time sleeping, it's a great, a great way to do that.

And so you just imagine that you're touching these points so it doesn't have to be, you know, for sleep, it can be for anything but just imagining it.

That can also, again, sort of activate the energy moving in your body. So these are a lot of different ways. Tapping is super forgiving and that you can do it.

I mean you could tap like probably back here or like on your legs somewhere. I mean you've got, you know, these meridians all over your body. These are the points that are initially labeled as, you know, tapping points or just they're all connected to, well, they're meridians.

So they're all connected to different organs and different glands and that sort of thing. So it sort of opens that up and makes that connection. But you can get any energy moving in your body in any way, shape or form.

So those are all really good ways to use tapping. That's not necessarily actually tapping. I mean, I love that thing that, gives people a lot to work with.

And, you know, as people do this more in their sensitivity, well, you know, decrease and they can even, you know, eventually get on the body and do the tapping.

But this is, of course, you know, I love that there's so many options. So tapping is for everyone. Truly. It really is. Tapping really is for everyone.

We say try it on everything because everyone and everything, even babies, you can use it on babies. I've used it on my dogs. I mean, you can really you know, it's just it's just a stimulation.

You're just stimulating something. But instead of it being stimulating in the sense that's like why, you know, allow you might want to tap for feeling like that if you're feeling tired, but, more or less what it does is it neutralizes, it neutralizes your thoughts, it neutralize as your emotions so that you have like, you know, you're just feeling calmer or you're feeling more relaxed, which who doesn't want to feel like that?

You know, totally, totally, all throughout the day, even, when I see patients, you know, I'll even just tap myself to clear energy or just. I love the thymus point.

You know, necessarily tapping routine, but that I always like if a thymus. Yeah. Okay. Life is good. You know, breathing it in. Yes. No, it's right up in, you know. So. Yes.

So love it. Well, I think what place to do some tapping if that sounds good. And then again, Julie just shared if you're sensitive out there, if you're new to this, please.

You know, listen to your body and just take it easy and take it slow. And I think either finding a point to just rest your hands and just use your mind to go through the process or using the hybrid method would be a really great, start if someone's, you know, concern out there so slowly.

So that's one good. And we're going to dive in. Yeah. Let's dive in. So I'm thinking, you know, I think most people understand out there what it feels like to be stressed, and to have these, symptoms or pains or sensitivities in their body.

And so what I would ask everyone to do is just tune in. Obviously everybody's different. Everyone has their own emotions and their own feelings around this.

But, my guess is that everyone understands the feeling of frustration around what's happening, in your body and the way your body's speaking to you, because that's really ultimately what's happening, right?

Is your body speaking to you with sensitivity or with pain or discomfort or that sort of thing? So just connect with, with all of that. And when you're ready, we're going to tap through the points.

So I'm going to ask you, Christine, to just be my echo, as we go through it. So just repeat after me, okay. Thank you. And again, for anyone else, if you don't want to actually tap, just rob.

Go ahead. You know, something like that or just touch okay. But we're going to tap because this is the actual act of tapping okay. So even though my body is really speaking to me with these symptoms, even though my body is really speaking to me with these symptoms, and I feel frustrated and I feel frustrated, scared, scared, where is this heading?

Where is this heading? I honor and accept myself. I honor and accept myself and my body and my body, and I'm open to shifting this now. And I'm open to shifting this now.

Even though it may be hard to love and accept myself, even though it may be hard to love and accept myself when I'm not feeling good, when I'm not feeling good, when I'm feeling sick.

When I'm feeling sick, tired, tired, dizzy, dizzy. Hard to concentrate, hard to concentrate, hard to accept myself. It's hard to accept myself. But I'm open to accepting where I am now.

But I'm open to accepting where I am now. I am ready and willing to heal. I am ready and willing to heal at my own pace, at my own pace. And we're going to tap through the points so you can tap on the top of your head.

My body is really speaking to me. My body is really speaking to me. And tap over the inner eyebrow just on the corner there, my body speaking to me with pain or tension.

My body is speaking to me with pain and tension. And on the side of your eye, this discomfort in my body, this discomfort in my body and under your eye, and all this sensitivity and all this sensitivity and under your nose.

I'm sensitive to everything. I'm sensitive to everything and on your chin. And I always have to be on guard, and I always have to be on guard. And the collarbone trying to stay two steps ahead, trying to stay two steps ahead to avoid the discomfort, to avoid the discomfort and the activation of symptoms and the activation of symptoms and tap under your arm.

And that's a lot of hard work and that's a lot of hard work. It's exhausting. It's exhausting. And on the top of your head, and it's possible that no one really understands what I'm going through.

And it's possible that no one really understands what I'm going through and over your eyebrow. And that's frustrating, too. And that's frustrating to and the side of your eye, all these feelings, all these feelings and under your eye, all these emotions, all these emotions and under your nose I'm open to finding some relief.

And that's I'm open to finding some relief in this. And tap on your chin. I'm open to forgiving my body. I'm open to forgiving my body and the collarbone for all these symptoms, for all these symptoms and under your arm.

But I want my body to know. But I want my body to know. And on the top of your head that I'm listening. That I'm listening. And over your eyebrow, I'm finally listening and finally listening and on the side of your eye.

And I'm choosing to be here for me. And I'm choosing to be here for me. And angry, having patience and compassion for myself. Having patience and compassion for myself and under your nose for once her ones and on your chin.

I tend to be very hard on myself, and tend to be very hard on myself and the collarbone and the way that I'm feeling and the way that I'm feeling. And under your arm.

I'm so grateful for the ability to let it go. I'm so grateful for the ability to let this go. And on the top of your head, I'm releasing this frustration from all the joints in my body.

I'm releasing this frustration from all the joints in my body and over your eyebrow, from all my organs and my glands and my body, from all my organs and all my glands in my body and the side of your.

I am releasing it from the fascia in my body and release from this fashion my body and under your eye, in my cells and lymphatics, in my cells and my lymphatics, and under your nose.

I'm releasing and letting go from my, circulatory system. I'm releasing the letting go from the circulatory system and on your chin, and my immune system, my system and the collarbone.

I am sending peace and love to all of my cells. I'm sending peace and love to all my cells, feeling calmer and more relaxed, and my cells really calmer and more relaxed in my cells and under your arm, feeling this wave of calm come over me.

I am feeling a wave of peace and calm. Come over me. I'm feeling a wave of peace and calm. Come for me and just tap your wrists together and say peace, peace.

Go ahead. Take a big deep breath in and let it out. And then you just want to see how you feel, right? How does that feel? Hopefully it's calming. It's peaceful.

People can go back and do it again. They can go ahead and tap along with some videos. They can, you know, find their own words. That's what's so important is to be specific and you know, and see what comes up for you when you go through that process.

Right? I we brought up a few different things there. Right? The frustration and the way your body's speaking to you and that people in that understanding, you know, so what comes up for you around that.

And then you want to go back and address it. Yeah. I just love how good you are with saying the exact right words. And I know so many people need to hear and know I wish energy you know.

But it's I think so. Right. Like it was like at the call I'm like oh you know right. You know so oh my God I know. Yeah. We'll just I'll wrap this in then.

Yes. Go ahead. Hold the energy for. Absolutely. Here we go. But, I just love how gifted you are with just channeling the right words that people need to hear.

And I know that people who are listening can hopefully, if you by the some of you can listen to the recording over and over again, I mean get this into your routine.

And I just hope that this serves so many people out there and you've done an incredible job truly offering so much free information out there on YouTube.

And thank you. You're a very gifted practitioner, and I know you're booked out very far in advance, but I know everybody would be flooding to you. If you have the space and I'm very grateful that you see me.

And thank you. So if you could just share with everybody where they can find you and all that great stuff. So, they can find me on YouTube. Julie Schiffman as Kaufman, I have so many videos over 100.

I don't even know how many I have at this point, but there's a lot and I'm always adding to it so you can join me there. I'm also on Instagram. Julie Shiffman underscore tap in to life and I am also on Facebook, Julie Shiffman EFT.

So and my website is Julie shipman.com. So those are all places where people can find me. And I encourage you to find me, follow me. Because I do have I mean, I'm always, so passionate about sharing the information for free so that people can really, understand it and use it because I just want everybody to know about it and, and use it and just feel better in their body and feel better in their life.

So, I am fully committed to that. So thank you for letting me share the message here as well. Yeah, no, I really honor that. And see that, you know, and just think of how much you have been part of this movement getting out there.

And, 25 years you've been doing this. Yeah. You've created a big ripple effect. So thank you for all that work. Thank you. This make this available. So we'll have all of that information alongside this interview.

And I'm so grateful Julie could be part of the National summit. So thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for.

Julie Schiffman, MSW

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