Hey, it's Nathan Crane, director of the Health and Healing Club and host of the Concrete Cancer series, and I'm really excited you are joining us today for this really special interview with Sergey.

Let me read you his bio. And then we're going to bring him on and dive in. So say he's an author and activist speaker and a widely recognized thought leader in the natural health and wellness space.

He's the founder of Green Med Infocom and co-founder of stand for Health Freedom. His latest book, regenerate Unlocking Your Body's Radical Resilience to the New Biology, is available anywhere online.

Sayer wrote this book in the hopes that he can help others who are experiencing persistent symptoms or sickness, to pause and consider that their bodies are sending a message that something they are consuming, breathing or thinking is toxic or biologically incompatible with wellness. It is a fantastic read.

I encourage everyone to get a copy of the book today. You can go to Regenerate project.com, or you can download a free chapter of the book. I clearly have, marked it extensively because there's a lot in here that we're going to cover in this interview that he covers, specifically on cancer in the book that you're not going to want to miss.

So Sayer, thank you so much, brother. Thank you so much for being here for writing this book, for doing the great work that you do. Thank you Nathan. And you know, without you out there, like, really just blowing up this space of, awareness around alternatives, you know, people like me wouldn't get our message out.

So thank you for your work. And, Yeah, I'm just happy to be here. Yeah. I'm a, you know, obviously huge fan of your work. And, I think, this book, regenerate, is truly a comprehensive guide into a lot of the misunderstanding and misinformation about cancer and about health in general.

So I'm excited to dive into that with you. And I'd love to start a little bit on your own background. You know, I was reading in your book, you talk a little bit about your own kind of personal childhood health challenges, which eventually led you to the great work that you're doing today.

Would you mind sharing a little bit about kind of your personal journey of healing and, share with all of our listeners what led you to discovering, you know, this more natural approach to health and healing and creating green med info and and eventually writing this book?

Sure. I'd love to, Nathan. Thank you. So my health journey began probably pretty early in terms of being a sick infant and having, the need for, you know, allopathic interventions to ostensibly save my life because I was diagnosed with bronchial asthma at six months.

They used to inject me with epinephrine and give me various pharmaceuticals. And, ultimately, what happened is I was a pretty, sickly, depressed, sad child with a lot of medical trauma and, it wasn't until I went to college, actually, that I started to explore alternative views of health and well-being, and I started to clean out my diet and, start, you know, engaging detoxification.

And that's when I was amazed. I never needed an inhaler again. Unless, of course, I cheated on my diet, which was primarily dairy free. You know that to me, cows milk was really my, a thorn in my my side.

And so that was what brought me to this space. It was really not so much an academic pursuit. It was, more of a life death necessity for me to learn. What were the actual causes at a root level of my disease and my ailments.

And then as I went deeper down the rabbit hole, I started to understand that there's this massive body of science that actually, documents how, in fact, you know, folkloric medicine and, you know, grandmas, you know, copper, kitchen cupboard cures are really evidence based in a way that I never knew about.

And that there's huge research on the unintended adverse effects of the conventional standard of care. You know, pharmaceuticals, vaccines, even diagnose tick technologies like X-ray, mammography, you know, can contribute to cancer.

These things just blew my mind. And ultimately, over many years of working with people, helping them also to regain their health through natural approaches, I realized that fundamentally, people needed, well, first of all, I need to scale myself because I would actually spend hours telling people the same thing, you know, like, okay, let's go to the produce case at the Health food store, and let's talk about how kale and carrots are like the best medicine.

And then after hearing myself talk for ten years, I was like, okay, there's got to be a better way. So that's the birth of social media. You know, 2007 and eight was when I created Cream and Info and started to, index all this research from Medline, which now is about, almost 80,000 abstracts across 10,000 health topics that give you the evidence that, you know, many still believe doesn't exist on how natural medicine is actually extremely powerful and very much based in science.

And that's how I came to, ultimately do the work that I love to do. And that has unfortunately become very politicized because, you know, pharma is, very much in control when it comes to the media.

The government and we are presently being defined as enemies, even of the state for simply advocating informed consent. And, hey, there's this information out there.

So they're like, let's kill the messenger. Let's defame the messenger. And that's really what I'm seeing happen to myself and many of my well respected colleagues.

Well, we've seen that in, cancer specifically for decades. Right. But now with Covid, like we're seeing it at an all time high, this censorship, this, you know, trying to eradicate anything other than what the mainstream narrative is based upon, right?

And discrediting anybody who is coming out and saying there are natural solutions for your health. With this, you don't have to be as afraid as they're telling you.

Right. And and you, you know, being truly one of the, the leaders in the space helping to inform and educate people on what they can really do to take back control of their health, have been ostracized, you know, among among some of the others, more than anybody.

I mean, how has that been for you in knowing that what you're doing is one truly serving people's higher good, but then being completely, you know, discredited or or, you know, falsely discredited by the media, I mean, what's that been like?

Well, yeah, thanks for asking. I mean, really, I've been working through it. And ultimately, you know, like there is this quote about how if you tear out a man's tongue, you're not proving him a liar.

It is proving that you're afraid of what he's saying. And that's what we're seeing with massive deplatforming and cancel culture, where, you know, open debate and of course, you're constitutionally protected.

Freedom of speech is essential more than ever, not just for Democrat principles and processes, but obviously for informed consent, which is really a medical ethical principle that if we don't obey, then we're violating basic human rights.

Meaning, in order to have informed consent, you need access to the information that clearly shows you the both the risks and the benefits. And that's all that really I've ever done is attempt to put out, free resource that people can use to access that peer reviewed, published research.

And instead of people taking issue with Jama and Lancet and whatever journal, we're basically citing that they instead try to attack the messenger and really try to make an example of him or her so that people are intimidated to not speak out.

But of course, what we saw in this last election cycle is you meet an active sitting president, whether you love Trump, hate him, or indifferent was deplatformed, you know, across social media for contradicting a narrative that, you know, I feel is worth questioning because, you know, you should be able to question things.

And, ultimately, now even questioning the Orthodox truth when it comes to medicine and science is considered heretical. And crazily, the, Department of Homeland Security just two weeks ago released a bulletin saying that any questioning of Covid vaccines being effective, the origin of Covid, Covid, policies or election fraud could be associated with domestic terrorism now.

So it's like, I'm watching this as I know you are, and I'm just like, is this really? Is this like, science fiction film that's happening? I think that people should be standing up to protect everyone's right to free speech and open dialog.

I do that, I mean, stand for Health Freedom, the nonprofit that I co-founded, is actually standing up for every American's right to choose whether they want to vaccinate or not.

If you're pro-vaccine, you want to vaccinate. We're actually standing up also for your right to choose. It's your parental right and responsibility that's not an anti-vax advocacy, right.

But that's what they're doing is they're throwing that term on, minority groups like us, which actually I think there's a sleeping majority that, has yet to awaken who share our values.

And then they're saying basically that they are, a threat to society, that they're killing people. And that's why Biden said that about me and my wife and, actually 11 others, that we kill people by spreading disinformation, when in fact we're kind of doing the opposite, in my opinion.

You know? And then I saw recently, that they came out and said, oh, actually, you're not the big spreaders of disinformation like we had thousands of news outlets report upon.

Right. And we're sorry. Right. Well, actually, they didn't even apologize. They just came out and said we made an error after all the damage had already been done.

Exactly. Well, dark foreign money group. Okay, the center for Countering Digital Hate, which is the ultimate Orwellian inversion, right of language and the truth, went ahead and stated that myself and Bobby and Sherry Tenpenny and Kelly Brogan were responsible for over 70% of the vaccine misinformation.

And then Facebook came out with the actual stats, which is that our 1213 accounts have only been connected to 0.05% of vaccine related content, not anti-vaccine content, but any content basically showing that we've been subject to massive defamation, which now is about 90,000 results for the phrase disinformation dozen.

So they've defamed us around the planet to the point where the president saying I'm a murderer. And now it's clear that we never were responsible for what they claimed that we were. So.

But no apologies, of course. Yeah, right. And all you've been doing is sharing the science with people and sharing truth, you know, and they don't like it.

And that's, that's that's the problem we live in today. You know, that kind of transitions to my next question because in the book you talk about medical monotheism. Right.

And I think it was a great segue into that. Can you explain a little bit more about what that is and why it's important for everybody tuning in to recognize the validity in seeking safer, evidence based forms of natural, holistic, or even integrative medicine outside of the standard of care that most medical doctors practice today.

Yeah, it's a great question. The term medical monotheism basically describes a system that we're presently within, where there's only considered to be one right way to treat someone.

So that means that, you know, presently it has to be an FDA approved, treatment for it to be considered worthy, legal, safe to administer and offer to the public.

Now, that precludes virtually everything on the planet that's been used, right, to get us to the point where we survived as a species over countless millennia.

And those include foods. They include, you know, basic herbs. They include alternative therapies, from prayer to Reiki to eat, you know, emotional freedom technique to you can imagine, I mean, there's entire worlds of healing that are available to us just through intention and through kindness and Doom's right touch.

And it says, basically, if, for example, you're in Florida and you say to someone in a health food store, you know what, ma'am? You want sherry for inflammation?

Yeah, we've got it. You know, it's good for that Michigan State University study that showed it's better than ibuprofen. You hand the lady the study, you tell her this.

And that's a class D felony. You can literally go to jail because now you've implied that the natural substance is a drug by FDA c FTC guidelines, which means it prevents, treats, cures a diagnosis, a disease.

So what they've done is effectively preempted everyone on the planet from having a choice to do with their bodies, with nourishing foods and multi culturally validated, you know, over vast, stretches of time, safe and effective, you know, remedies.

And so medical monotheism basically is what we're living under. And it's based on scientism, right. Because scientism is itself a religion of sorts. It's not based on science. Right.

Science is not a destination. There's nothing called settled science. It's a process of discovery. And ultimately it's only scientific if it's open to question and debate.

And then, you know, we we prove proof. So anyway, scientists, I love that. I just want to take a pause right there, because I would love for you to to highlight that a little more.

I mean, what you just said is so profound that, you know, we think of science today as the end all, be all. Well, this scientific study said this. So that's a fact.

And actually, I just did a video on this the other day that the, our own, CDC director came out and did a press release on a very tiny study that had five floors notated in the study.

So it had five limitations. And then they came out and said, this is fact. And then thousands of news reports came out and said, it's also fact, right.

And so that's like the time we live in one little tiny study with five known limitations all of a sudden becomes universal fact. And what you're saying science is not that at all.

Science is actually it's meant to be questioned and torn apart and and relooked at and reexamined. Right? And right now we're living in a time where if you question any of it, you are considered, domestic terrorists.

No, I mean, you hit it on the head. Now, the interesting thing about the CDC is they wear military uniforms, and they're basically organized in that pyramidal control structure.

So it comes from the top down as far as what the orders are and what the truth is. And it's really not what people think. The CDC doesn't operate under what you would consider evidence based medicine, protocols or an ethos.

It's eminence based medicine. It's Ames. Right. It's a cult of authority. It's the beliefs, belief. And, so a medical priesthood, you know, they even wear robes.

And there's like, this whole, thing about, you know, evidence based medicine. It's about the scriptures, a published science. And the reality is that it's science by proclamation.

So you'll go to the website of the CDC and you'll see this like statement, vaccines do not cause autism, right. And they will barely ever even link to the research to substantiate that.

And in fact, on Greenman info, we've indexed over 1300 abstracts indicating that, absolutely, there are many signals of harm to the nervous system from vaccines in the schedule that can then be linked to autism spectrum disorder.

So the point is, is that when you go against that system, you are labeled as, a heretic, and you will literally face inquisition and what is now a digital burning at the stake, which is what's happened, is that, you know, myself and many others have literally been put on a digital hit list, as they would do in fascist times and start crossing us out as they, you know, turn the screws on the political machine.

I mean, all the way up to a congressional hearing where they were asking all the heads of Big tech, take these 12 people out tomorrow. And it was all being directed by this shadowy, foreign, group called the center for Countering Digital Hate, which is a hate group.

They're literally causing hate, fomenting hatred towards us, you know, really, really, it's a disturbing situation. But again, this is about medicine no longer being based in actual science and debate and experimentation.

It's really all about a political agenda. And when it comes, Nathan, to Covid 19, I've said from the beginning what they've done essentially in a post microbiome, world, okay, where we know there's a virus and we know we're full of viral particles and exosomes that actually serve essential functions for our immunological wellness, and that they basically have proposed that these viruses, these invisible particles, just jump from point A to point B, they have no internal mechanism to do that. Right.

They're dead by definition. They need a host to reproduce. And they're basically trying to make people think, that this is why the world closed down. No germ theory was weaponized as a geopolitical instrument, which in the sort of like MK ultra universe of mainstream weaponized media, people just believe what they're told.

They do what they're told out of fear. And that's what this was used for. Germ theory was used as a political weapon and a sort of mind control mechanism, and that's ultimately why I call this more a call to church medical monotheism than anything based on science and reason.

Yeah. I mean, it's so true. And I think you cover that in so much depth. Clearly in the book and, I want to kind of go to transition a little bit into your chapter on cancer.

In the book, it's the chapter's incredible. It's called beyond Gene mutation. And you open up with the history of when Richard Nixon signed the National Cancer Act in 1971, which allocated $1.4 billion at the time to fight the war on cancer.

Right. Can you speak a little bit to the disastrous results of that so-called war, that we've been experiencing for a number of decades now, and how in the last 50 years since then, and billions and billions of dollars later, right.

That 1.4 billion has turned into many, many more billions. How our scientific, pharmacological, medical approach to cancer has not really reduced, cancer diagnoses or deaths and in fact, may have contributed towards its proliferation.

So I think people probably need to understand more about the history of how we came up with the so-called mutational view of cancer's origin, which is this concept, right, that there's this nucleus within all of our cells, and it's like a ticking time bomb.

There are these mutations that we were just born with because, you know, the universe is based on really fundamentally chaotic and nihilistic principles.

And life kind of sucks. And it's just a matter of time before you go and it has nothing to do with the environment, you know? No, the chemicals you have smoked for decades and it's.

Yes, now we know there's a genetic link with smoking, etc., but back then the idea was, you know, what is actually, believe it or not, the idea was to cover up the known environmental causes of illness with the idea of something equivalent to a germ, which is what the gene based view of disease was.

A twin of which was that, again, the genes are responsible, not what you do to the cell. You know, not the fact that the tobacco industry, for example, funded a lot of the original genome research into cancer because they were trying to distract from the reality, which is they already knew that smoking causes cancer.

So instead of right, the smoking gun, literally not just a metaphor, the smoking gun, they wanted people to think, oh no, it's something else buried in your genes.

It doesn't have anything to do with that. And the same is true for germ theory. It's always a way of, getting around the fact that the causes of disease in the cell are very clear.

You either have nutritional incompatibilities or deficiencies, or you have environmental exposures. Non-Native MF toxicants, radionuclides. There's an infinite number of chemicals that are carcinogenic, you know, toxic, mutagenic.

But that was the whole CIA. You know, the chemical industry spawned pharma. Actually, if you look at IG Farben and their focus on dyes and other chemicals, they happened to invent the original pharmaceuticals by accident.

I mean, in fact, there's a lot of psycho generosity to things like artificial food colorings, coal tar, food coloring. So that's why they don't use them.

In Europe and the US, everyone is pretty much on default, low dose psychiatric, which is why ADHD and food coloring is so linked. But it's far been. And the chemical industry spawned pharma, which is why pharma actually uses that seed stock.

A lot of the petrochemicals to produce their highly toxic xeno biotics. Okay, so see how biotic means foreign to bio? So life for the body. Pharmaceuticals by definition, are pretty much, synthetic and alien to our metabolism.

They're poisons. So they're patented poisons that have certain side effects that they take the primary side effect they want. Like it could be amnesiac.

So they call it Ambien, and they market it as, like, beneficial, even though it's like literally killing people. It's like a black box label now warning you.

So in other words, if the whole thing was a scam right from the beginning. So allopathy is a form of sorcery in my opinion. It's meant to deceive and it actually means that literally pharmacopeia and farmer coats and all these ancient words in Greek.

Okay, so Kiev pharmacy, others, human sacrifice, meaning they're there's also poisoner. That's, that's literally where the word pharmacy pharmaceutical comes from.

And they basically deceive people into thinking they're not responsible for their health, nothing that they feel in their bodies. Real disease comes from a lack of drugs or from exposure to invisible particles.

So then you need to trust the, you know, the the witch doctor and the white coat with these magical vaccines they inject into you, or these little magic pills which are like the Eucharist. Right?

Because it's the church. It's like a little wafer that you, you know, you bow down to you, you're indoctrinated to. And that is basically what I have observed now in my book.

I don't go so poetic, mythological. I go more into the actual detailed science and history. But when you really look down the rabbit hole, you find out that the history of treating cancer and fighting the war against cancer was really just a war on the body.

The populations that at that time needed to be captured and controlled by another system that ultimately just basically deceive people into thinking that, you know, again, illness is something that just happens to you.

You have to manage it. You have to be controlled by the priesthood of the medical. Monotheists. And that, you know, we are helpless fundamentally. Wow. I mean, you've explained that better than I think I've heard anybody ever explain it up to this point.

And and it's so true and so sad that, well, it's hopeful on one hand that we see millions of people waking up to this truth that you're talking about, you write about in the book, you know, the great work you're doing, you done to green med info.

And and yet there are still so many people that are so asleep to, you know, the fact that there are natural solutions for our health that, cancer is not something you catch.

It's something you make, right? It's something that's actually, could be considered to prolong your life because of, you know, the, the lifestyle choices, or the environment that you're living in or have been living in or has been handed down to you right from your own parents, grandparents and so forth.

And that we do have control over our destiny, that our genes are not our destiny. Right? That we actually can through environmental behaviors, through environmental lifestyle behaviors.

We can actually, express genes on and off, right, that we can, allow the suppression of cancer genes and we can, create the activation of cancer genes.

And, you know, this is still taught in medical school today. I had somebody write to me recently. She was in, I think, her third or fourth year of medical school, and she wrote to me and she said, you are killing people.

You are lying to people. They teach us in medical school that, you know, natural medicine doesn't work. There's no science that backs it up. And, and I'm reporting you right now.

And I was just like, it blew my mind, right? That this is still what is being taught even through green medicine. For you have 77,000, almost 80,000 abstracts that show, you know, the evidence based approach of natural medicine for health and healing and reduction of, you know, chronic inflammation and metabolic diseases.

And, you know, all so much proof there. And yet they're still being taught in medical school that this stuff doesn't work. It just it blows my mind. Yeah.

Well, you said some really important things, like, for example, you know, cancer isn't just something bad that happens to you, but it's something your body does as an intelligent and adaptive response to the environment.

So, you know, I wrote a book with, Doctor Charles Majors and then Doctor Ben Lerner initially called Cancer Killers, and it was all summarized in this very good phrase around, you know, you don't get sick because you have cancer, you're already sick.

And cancer is an expression of that. So that's one way of describing it. Or basically what's happening when people experience cancers, which is something we'd want to talk a little more Granularly about because it's, a term that's thrown around without proper nuance is, that ultimately your body is activating an agent survival kit, which is founded on regeneration, actually.

Because what happens when a normal cell. Right. That's mortal. Right? It has a certain life cycle. So if it's a liver cell, you know, my last, you know, a few months or something, a skin cell or epithelial cell, a few days, and then it's replaced by a new cell because there's a stem cell that's relatively immortal, that's there waiting to regenerate that tissue.

So cancer is actually a byproduct in a good number of cases of those regenerative cells being continually assaulted and taxed with the job of having to constantly replace destroyed tissue.

Let's say you smoked right? For decades. The miracle isn't that people that smoke or I'm sorry, the oddity isn't the people that smoked cancer, it's that they don't get cancer much, much sooner.

It's. And some live longer than people that look ostensibly healthy, right. That just eat too much. It's because our bodies are working 24 over seven to replace the tissue that's being harmed.

And so what's happening ultimately is when those stem cells are recruited, some of the same hormones are released that you find in conventional cancers that you do when you repair tissue from injury or other forms of adversity.

And so it's hard to really distinguish the two. So I want people to understand that when you look at cancer through a regenerative lens, you start understanding the body is actually very intelligent.

And it's it's it's recruiting. What is fundamentally a immortal cell line in your body. The stem cells come from the germ cell line, which is basically, you know, sperm and egg and those those cell lines have been replicating for at least 3.4 billion years, depending on what timeline you apply.

And in fact, the first cell was believed to be deposited here through the panspermia hypothesis, through a meteor. Now, does not preclude necessarily a more biblical explanation for the origin of life.

But the point, because what I'm saying is that even the science in biology and astrophysics and all these different converging disciplines show that life is actually immortal.

And when people start to understand that we have a deal in our body as meat is our complex animal life, that most of our cells are programed to die and be replaced, because the point is to pass on the immortal seed to the next generation.

So cancer is actually when some of that regenerate process gets taxed too much in a lifetime due to what you might call the Anthropocene, which is the epoch of all these novel new chemicals.

Again, going back to pharma, going back to high to, you know, applications like coal tar firing and nuclear plants and non-native DMF. All this stuff is contributed to a natural response.

It's a cause and effect. Just that karma. That's all that means to a very unnatural way of living. Yeah. So given the right conditions, you know, the body will repair and will heal.

It's a quick example of that is if you look at some of the research on, cancer cell lines, which I've indexed on government info reported on simply administering something like vitamin C can sometimes cause an epigenetic regression of an immortalized cancer cell to a now differentiated immortal cell, calling that an anti-cancer agent isn't really appropriate.

What it's basically we're saying is that cancer isn't caused by a lack of chemotherapy or radiation. It's a lack of neutral genomic information that is required to regulate the epigenetic and genetic infrastructure of our body through an ancestral dietary template and lifestyle template.

So it's really a divergence from nature, which is again saying response to these artificial conditions that cause cancer is a symptom. But it's not what people think.

Cancer isn't this juggernaut of chaos and death. You know, it's basically a way to wake us up and say, hey, there's something off and it can be healed.

You just have to change the conditions and actually detox the body, because it's interference with the body's self-healing that causes disease. It's not like, oh, the genes were just set up.

By the way, uncle, genes actually are regenerative genes. The most ancient ones were actually responsible for some of the miraculous behavioral capabilities and physiological capabilities of species like the Hydra, which are immortal species.

So these these things, yes, you can incinerate them, but they if you break them into parts, they actually replicate into a full adult forever. That immortality exists in life.

It's just hidden in little cells. And then some species, you know, deep in the ocean, whatever is still exhibited. And that's ultimately what can be tapped when you're dealing with what we're told are incurable diseases like cancer.

And that goes for the whole spectrum. Every single disease on the planet can be healed. And that's, something that you don't need Jesus necessarily, to, to have the evidence for.

It can actually be found, in my opinion, in what I call the new biology or the new biophysics. I'd love to get into a little bit of that with you in, in some, maybe some natural therapeutic approaches that you've discovered and you outline in your book that people could some great takeaways that people can look, have some hope towards in helping to help their body regenerate naturally.

And before we do, you know, I just, it keeps coming in the back of my mind. So I'd love for you to talk a little bit about it because you're so immersed in the research, hands on talking to people, looking at the data, around Covid and around vaccines.

And specifically, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Covid and cancer and cancer in the in the Covid vaccines. And and from a framework of if somebody has cancer or is, you know, trying to prevent cancer, should they worry about Covid, and then two, should they worry about the vaccine or what should they know about either and both.

And then we could get into some. I've gotten a lot of questions lately as well from people emailing me saying I took the vaccine. I feel I shouldn't have, what can I do?

You know, what can I do to detox? What can I do to help my body heal? Maybe that's another question we get into as well, but, yeah, I'd love for you to talk a little.

Okay, so, when it comes to this topic, it's very complex. But I would say, first of all, when it comes to what we call cancer, the reality is that a vast majority of so-called cancers, like, let's say, when people say, I've been diagnosed with breast cancer, they're overdiagnosed.

What that means is that fundamentally, in things like X-ray mammography, which actually picks up things like calcifications with a type of calcium, like, hydroxyapatite calcium, those crystals show up because the gamma rays are basically lighting up the calcium.

That is not necessarily equivalent to what we we considered to be deadly cancer. In fact, a lot of my research over the past 13 years is about looking at the evidence that ductal carcinoma in situ is not actually cancer.

In fact, that that was the ultimate result of research that was eventually published on the topic, which vindicated people like myself and even Mike Adams.

Interestingly, was the first to, introduce me to this, rabbit hole. So my point is, is that with X-ray mammography, which there's a long backstory on that one, but the diagnostic technology that's used, first of all, uses a type of low dose, radiation, which has now been found to be actually far more carcinogenic than high dose radiation, or breast cancer, actual invasive metastatic breast cancer.

So the diagnostic technology that is being promoted as a form of prevention in healthy populations, this should ring some bells for people that have been watching the case.

Demick with PCR tests being used in healthy people with no symptoms, they get false positives and they're like, oh, I must be sick and a threat to others and no symptoms.

Same with ductal carcinoma, DCIs, ductal carcinoma in situ. And then they run and they rushed to the hospital. And then the media reports on hospitals overflowing.

And then people think, oh my God. We're you know, everyone's dying of Covid when in fact most of these people are, you know, either false positive, right.

And or they have a few sniffles and and they're going to be fine. But they're still in the hospital. So now we're hearing all these reports, all these people in the hospital.

Oh, yeah. And I mean, the psychogenic shock of any diagnosis of that, that, you know, that everyone's being told this is the new black plague, you're going to die if you get this, you know, at least initially, why wouldn't someone go into almost shock over knowing they have Covid and then they treat them, or they do something crazy, like put them on a ventilator and that's almost like a death sentence anyway.

So then with the changes in the way that you define Covid deaths, that happened March 2020, where you didn't need proof or even viral testing to right someone dead from Covid, that's the greatest scam that's ever occurred in human history, according to what I know and a lot of my colleagues.

In fact, that's why that stand for health freedom. We've called for an investigation of the CDC on this topic of the hyperinflation of death statistics, which were based on zero clinical proof or evidence.

So that's unfortunately part of the problem is people still don't realize that there has never been an actual confirmation of Covid 19 deaths because they didn't even require virus testing, nor could they administer it at scale at the time anyways.

So it was all based on conjecture. And why did the, you know, seasonal flu disappear last year? Because they redefined every single influenza like illness case as Covid 19.

They didn't need to, even talk about flu anymore because Covid had way better PR. You know, it's for people who are hearing this for the very first time.

I mean, this is 100% fact. You can find the the the documentation from the CDC. I've seen it. I read it when it came out in March of 2020, where they instructed doctors in hospitals that if the, if the, if this, patient is showing symptoms of Covid, which the symptoms are a massive range of symptoms, anything from a sniffle to a headache to vomiting, anything.

I mean, it could be anything. That one. They do not have to test them if they just assume that this person had Covid and they died, then they were instructed they were not recommended.

They were literally instructed to write Covid on the death certificate. And when I interviewed a number of doctors back then last year about this, they had told me they've never seen anything like this before in the history of their practice.

Which just it blows my mind. Right. And then you go and look at the studies from the CDC themselves. And how many Covid deaths are only attributed to Covid by itself.

And again, these are not even fully 100% accurate. Because doctors were not testing people. Only 5% are only attributed to Covid, not including, you know, one, 2 or 3 other comorbidities.

Right? So as you're saying, it is a huge disservice, not only a disservice, but should be illegal. What they're doing. Nathan, you did such a great job of articulating that.

Yeah. I mean, from when we started looking at this, what I will call psychological operation, because that's what I believe it was, we reported on so many aspects of this, including Fauci's own article, the New England Journal of Medicine, that stated this was probably no worse than a seasonal flu.

So many contradictions, so many data points around this being completely hyper inflated, breaking federal law, even 17 years of federal law was broken, ultimately by the CDC to push through hyper inflated test stats.

That is incredible and very little, if any, reporting has occurred on this. So the point, of course, is that something similar has been going on for decades with cancer diagnosis, which is that women who had no symptoms of any breast abnormality subjected themselves to x x ray mammography because they were told, listen, if you don't do this, you could die of deadly breast cancer.

When the my mama mama graphic technology itself was carcinogenic. And then when they saw an abnormality i.e. some calcium deposits, they said, oh my God, we have to apply the precautionary principle, which is more like the preemptive war doctrine.

We're going to attack the breast lumpectomy, mastectomy, chemotherapy, radiation, follow up, pharmaceuticals. Like our medics, these women's lives were devastated.

And get get this. They were told that their lives were saved and they they became weaponized brand ambassadors with all the marches for the cure and all they.

I was saved by pharma, when in fact, now, after years of actually me, speaking to this literature, questioning doctors, we've been vindicated because now we know that DC is probably should not even be called breast cancer.

I mean, sometimes they were labeling at stage zero for good reason in situ means non moving car. Cancer has the name cancer because it's a crab. It spreads outward.

What is a nonmoving mover? I mean it's a contradiction. It was. And so ultimately over the years now and it's documented in depth in my chapter, there's an awareness that overdiagnosis is probably one of the most traumatic of all medical atrocities that has happened, and still people don't know about it.

So my first thing for those who've been diagnosed with cancer is you need to find out what that really means. And a lot of my book is actually looking at the many different views on what cancer actually is, because if you think you have to eradicate it at each and every particle, you misunderstand what the body is, what the cell is, what stem cells are, and what cancer fundamentally is.

You can cut, you can burn, okay, you can irradiate. But that does not mean that if you had done something different, which is address the root causes, first of all, detoxify the body, add neutral genomic support.

Because when we look at things like research on pineapple bromelain being superior to conventional like that's a Rubicon. Why is that? Well, maybe because it's a natural compound that's infinitely more intelligent and has the ability to articulate what's known as, selective cytotoxicity.

If there is a healthy tissue, it leaves it alone. If it's a cancer stem cell, which, by the way, is the root of all tumors, the malignant subpopulation, it may be 1 in 1000 cells in a tumor is actually capable of spreading.

And so look at eventual chemo and radiation is done in surgery is you cut out the bulk of the tumor, you shrink it. And in the same moment you're enriching the resilient cancer stem cells, which then come back like an antibiotic resistant infection.

It's the same concept and insert interestingly antibiotics and chemotherapy is in the same category is that you're reproducing the same fatal flaw in thinking around what cancer actually is and how to heal it.

And there's so many other dimensions data which I know you know, which a lot of it has to do with psychogenic beliefs and reasons why we suppress anger and hold toxicity in our body.

We could go on and on, really, about alternative approaches and causes of cancer. Yeah. Thank you for that. I know it's it's outlined really well. You know, in your book, I want people to go pick up a copy of this regenerate at the.

You can also get a free chapter at Regenerate project. Com but, you know you mentioned neutral genomic, approaches as one of the effective, natural things that people can do.

You know, we do go into a lot more depth in the other episodes. Of real, you know, impactful, evidence based solutions using natural, holistic and, and even some forms of integrative medicine for helping prevent and heal cancer.

But what would you say? I mean, you talk about detoxing the body, right? Obviously, you know, we do get a lot into the power of the mind and beliefs and, and, you know, epigenetics, you know, throughout this series as well, but what are like a couple of your favorite, top favorite things that, you think are you have found to be incredibly effective?

Well, course. Cancer. Yeah. Well, first of all, on the topic, that you're, asked me to expand on, like, neutral genomic for those who don't really understand, at least my definition is that food is information is a pretty powerful concept because we've been in cocaine to believe that food is either a source of energy, like fuel for the machine of the, you know, gas, gas for the car, or just a building blocks.

Right? Proteins, carbohydrate, you know, some minerals. And that's where we build our body up with and that's it. Right. But the reality is that food is information and actually contains we now know these things called exosomes, which are these nanoparticles indistinguishable from actual viruses that contain nucleic acids like viruses called micro RNAs.

And they have other RNA is like messenger RNA, but the primary ones are micro RNAs, which sounds small but have huge effects because now it's known that micro RNAs super Vene or coordinate the majority of the protein coding genes in the human body.

And there's been this fetishization of, you know, the human genome. And then what you're talking about is just the 2% of the, you know, sequences in our, you know, 3 billion base pair long genetic code.

Turns out that 98% of the code that we don't talk much about the dark, matter of the human genome includes RNAs, and micro RNA is essential for regulating the expression basically of Georgina.

And it's in food. So what that means is that we oh, what's happened is over the many, many, many billions of years of human evolution. We have outsourced, the regulation of our genome to the foods that we eat.

It's a beautiful system. Which means why do walnuts look like a human brain? Right? Because literally. Right. It's got, encasement of a of a skull. It's got by hemispheric, you know, nut meal with meat that has omega three and neuroprotective substances as the meninges like web.

It's crazy. But you know why? It's because there's been a constant horizontal transfer of micro RNA from our bodies to the plants bodies. And that's how co-evolution has happened with angiosperms, which are the, fruit bearing flowering, plants, which constitute 70% of the human food supply.

And then complex animal life that is ZOA like, you know, birds and bees and mammals, and they co-evolved and wove their DNA and their stories and desires together into this beautiful poetry.

And it's micro RNA is that coordinate this. So why am I talking about all this? Okay. Because food as information is such a powerful concept, it helps explain why you could eat a certain diet with flaxseed and C or turmeric and C complete reversal of chemotherapy and radiation refract or re cancers.

How is that possible? But because once again cancer is not a lack of chemotherapy, radiation or some even fancy, you know, natural supplement, it's when you take the genetic rug out from under a species that require a certain essential gene regulatory compound in foods that co-evolved with, you're taking away actually something as important as our own DNA.

And that's why when you put the stuff back in, it could be just fruits and berries and vegetables, and you will potentially produce the framework for complete regeneration and healing.

So when people get that food is that powerful and they understand that pharma is that toxic and can never come even close to reproducing the intelligence built into something as simple as a nut or a seed, that the whole game is over.

Pharma loses the multi-trillion dollar industry that now rules the planet politically, is dead, and that's why I think this is really revolutionary. It is revolutionary.

I love your explanation of it too. And it really just helps us realize that, you know, how I like to look at it is why we have such a proliferation of disease today is because we've lost our deeper connection to nature.

Right? And the more we get reconnected to nature, to our natural selves, to the nature around us, to, you know, the natural biology, of this planet, of growing our own food, of, you know, living in community where we, we share ideas and support each other, not isolate ourselves away in fear and cover our faces and fill our bodies with drugs.

Right. But actually come together and support each other and communicate with ourselves, with the plants, with the animals, with the planet. Breathe fresh air, drink clean water, all these things.

You know that as you're saying, it's cancer's not a lack of chemotherapy. It's not a lack of drugs. It's not a lack of even supplements. Right? We can get kind of lost in our approach sometimes and think, I need all the supplements in the world, and I need the greatest technology and I need the newest, you know, sauna or PMF device, and all those things can be helpful.

You know, those aren't what you're lacking, right? Which has caused the cancer to proliferate in your body. I really believe it is because we've we've lost that connection to nature.

And the closer that we can reconnect with our natural selves, with our our deeper, you know, essences as a, regenerating, which is the best title for a book ever.

Our regenerative faculties as human beings, you know, we won't see this, kind of disease that we've seen explode around the world. And in fact, I think we can actually.

And this is my hope. And doing all this work that we're doing is to actually start reversing the cancer pandemic, actually start seeing the numbers go backwards instead of continuing to increase every year.

And so I'd love to, if, if, if you wouldn't mind sharing a little bit about your thoughts on the vaccine and, people with cancer, you know, should they be concerned?

I'd love to. I would probably reiterate what others have said out there, which is that this is actually not really a vaccine in any conventional sense of the term, because when they're implementing a technology that was actually funded and conceived by DARPA, right, which is a military advanced research sort of program within the deep state government.

You know, I mean, the word deep state sort of been, weaponized. So I would say permanent state, meaning like, look at fortune. He's in five consecutive administrations.

Did I vote him in? No. Okay. So he's clearly more powerful than the political layer, which is really just the, entertainment division of the military industrial complex, according to Frank Zappa's great quick quote.

So the point is, is that, the Covid 19 vaccine gene is a novel new gene experiment. I don't even think about using word therapy, which has been rolled out in violation of all human rights.

Okay. It was a wartime act that was invoked, right? An emergency use authorization that suspended our Constitution, suspended informed consent, which comes from the medical ethical codes written in the Nuremberg trials in 1947.

Right. Which was all about if you're going to be experimented on, at least give people access to information on risks and benefits. But you can't do that because the clinical trials won't even be done until maybe 2023.

And then that's only short term. You can't assess 20, 30 years out. So what they're doing is they created a technology which I think Bill gates do the best job of explaining it colloquially in his Gates Notes blog that this vaccine turns the cells of the body into vaccine antigen manufacturing plants.

I mean, literally, this is science fiction. They're saying they're genetically modified humans to create antigen, which means that theoretically, your own immune system should now attack those cells.

How the hell do they think that the body is going to know how to titrate this gene therapy in a way that will not cause devastating harm to the body? This was DARPA again.

This was military. That's why it was deployed by the Pentagon. So when you think about what's actually happening here, this is what some people describe as World War three for a reason.

This is not poetry. They again invoked a wartime justification and acts in order to roll out this human experiment and mass. And so people who think the vaccine is conferring protection don't understand the history of vaccines or the quasi or anti-science of vaccinology.

First of all, they don't understand, again, what we've kind of touched upon, which is when you start tinkering with RNA, you're basically interfering with the very fundamental code of life itself.

And you're not just doing it in one dose. You're altering a human into what is a trans humanistic, degenerate degeneration of our species. I mean, transhumanism is central to this program.

It's why gates was working with Epstein and MIT labs over developing technologies like this, including implantable RFID capable nano technology like quantum dots, so that they could know that you're tracked and indentified like cattle.

Once they administered this gene therapy. And it's also something that can feed into electromagnetic fields. And then you're fundamentally no longer in a human realm any longer.

I mean, this stuff sounds like science fiction, but it's all open source. You can find all the data. They're not even hiding it, you know? So Covid vaccine, you can see the patents, right?

You can. I have a colleague, Doctor Robert Young, who is a, microscopy. He does microscopy, right. It looks at the blood, and it's very high tech, microscopes.

And, you know, we've heard a lot about graphene oxide in these and these vaccines. And the company said, no, there's no graphene oxide. You guys are crazy as conspiracy.

Well, him and others have actually pulled the blood of somebody after taking the vaccine and has shown and you can find his slides, that the blood actually has graphene oxide in it. Right.

And this is just one, and we know it's a very toxic thing to have in the human body. But, you know, which is also has a magnetic, field to it, right? Yes.

And that's the tip of the iceberg because Antoine, Antoinette Gotti, who is an Italian, researcher, identified several years ago that the European vaccine, the vaccines had nanoparticles in them that were, you know, the whole range of metals, basically.

And now there's new research that they're finding zirconium oxide, sulfate residue perhaps also. So there's surreptitious ingredients. Some of them the vaccine developers didn't know were in there, for example, simian virus 40 from polio vaccines and other uncle genes that are now being found, adventitious or surreptitious vaccine, viruses, they're known as there's a nightmare within the history of vaccines, okay.

If people actually take the time to look at it. And then there's a name, we're in the new phase of gene therapies that they're rolling out, which by no means will be able to be validated as safe and effective for our generation, because it would take an entire generation even to do a study to see what the long term effects are.

Do you see how obvious it is that people are not realizing that you cannot determine a long term safety when you don't have, you can't go ahead 3040 years in the future unless you have a time machine.

So the whole thing is really remarkable that we are at this moment in history. But I do honor those who have resisted this agenda. We're using informed consent, precautionary principle, parental rights to stand strong and knowing that no one should inject anything into their body no matter what, unless you, as a participant, want to participate in it.

I mean, and that's basic human rights here. Well, I love what you're doing through stand for Health Freedom. Because that's what it's about. In no way are we saying here, you know, we're against vaccines.

We're against vaccines. Like we're not anti-vaccine, right? What we're saying here is we're pro-choice and pro information and pro having all sides of the story, all the data.

Right. So you can so you can actually have informed consent. And the problem is right now we don't have informed consent. One, we don't have long term studies and data on these vaccines, on the damages.

But the short term data we have already I mean, Vas system as of recording this right now has over 600,000 adverse events submitted to it and 13,000 deaths from the vaccine submitted to it already.

And if you go to the Department of Health and Human Services, right on their website, which I reported on this recently, the Vas system only, attributes to about 1% of real vaccine adverse events.

So if you multiply, you know, those numbers, the real potential deaths, I'm saying potential because it's not, you know, clinically verified. Right. But if we're depending on doctors and people to submit their adverse events and deaths, after the vaccine, that means 1.3 million potential deaths so far from this vaccine and over 60 million potential adverse events.

Right. And so the whole point here is that people educate themselves, that people learn more about the dangers and that people have true informed consent.

So you can make better decisions for your own health and the health of your children and your grandchildren. Right. And so I love what you're doing through stand for Health Freedom and through green med info because that's what you're doing.

You're you're informing and you're empowering people. What would you say is a good, stand for health freedom? Like, what's a great place for people who want to learn more, get more involved, understand more of what's going on with Covid, with vaccines, with their health, you know, central freedoms, a great resource, obviously, but what could they do there to help contribute and support in a bigger way?

Yeah. Thanks. So with Central Freedom, we're a 534 nonprofit. And so we designed it so that we remove the barrier to access to the elected officials. So within 20s, you can basically fill out the form.

We've worked really hard on creating a customized email template on various essential issues related to, you know, first, vaccines, forced vaccine passports, forced masking and social isolation and contact tracing.

And you can go ahead and populate by zip code. You know, your elected official and you can, you know, modify the message and go ahead and make a real impact.

We've had over, I think, 1,000,000.5 actions taken thus far on the platform. It's only a little bit over a year old. It's completely user supported. There's zero administrative costs.

Like we are literally all volunteers. And it's the most beautiful thing I've seen because as you said, you're correct. We can enlighten people all day long to the information and it's still so depressing.

But when you provide a means to positive action and you put a megaphone up to, you know, the silent sleeping majority, then the elected officials, the powers that be, they actually take notice.

So we are really happy about what we're seeing. I do believe, Nathan, that we are seeing in the window of Covid. The real silver lining is a new political center of gravity that is truly transportation or includes all parties.

Meaning you're Democrat, you're Republican, you're independent. Great if you believe in bodily sovereignty, if you believe that you should have a choice, including if you're pro-vaccine, then you really do need to be behind this.

Because if you take away people's choice to determine what happens to their bodies, their loved ones bodies, you're basically saying that you're no longer free.

The state owns you and your children. And this is exactly what's happening. The District of Columbia pushed through a bill that basically allows your children to consent to deadly vaccination without having to inform you, without you having the right to say no, and without them having to even tell you that's the state taking your children away by legal definition.

And that is unfortunately part of the agenda. That is not a conspiracy theory is being written into state legislatures, and it is why we have created stand for Health freedom and why I do believe there will be a great American sovereignty party that will form, that will be inclusive of those who share these fundamental values, which happen to dovetail perfectly with our constitutional rights as well.

Yeah. Stand for freedom.com for everybody. Please go there. I'm a supporter of the, nonprofit. I've also, filled out just about every single form on the website, because it is incredibly easy to use, very resourceful and, and that's what it's about.

It's standing up for your own medical sovereignty. I mean, I'm at a place now where, you know, I really believe that if we allow these medical mandates to continue and to proliferate from state to state and country to country, this will just be one of many more to come.

And while some people tuning in might approve of some of these medical mandates because you believe it's going to stop the pandemic and it's the right thing, and in all in your saving lives, which, you know, we talked a little bit about, that was a whole other conversation that, that's not necessarily what's really happening.

But if you believe that the problem is, is this will only be one step towards a never ending step of medical mandates until it gets to something where you don't want.

Right? And by then it could be too late. And so this is not a pro-vaccine anti-vaccine. It is a pro-health freedom conversation. It is a look. We want to protect everybody's rights.

Yours, mine, my children. Everybody's from the state, from governments and pharmaceutical companies and from technocrats and oligarchies to come in and tell us what we can and can't put in, in on our bodies.

Because if we lose that freedom, guess what? They will never give it back without some kind of unfortunate war or massive fight, which I would never want to see happen.

Right? So this is like it is one of the most unbelievable things we're experiencing as human beings right now. And yet I think it is one of the most important issues of our time.

And it is very much tied into, cancer. Because, you know, if they move forward with this, what's to say that they won't start forcing you to take chemotherapy against your will?

What's to say they won't start forcing you to take radiation against your will or to use some new experimental biological drug against your will? That's unproven, right?

They've already done this with children, with cancer. Right. Where they took the the kids away from the parents and said, we have the kid's best interests in mind.

The parents don't the parents don't want chemotherapy. But the state believes the kid needs chemotherapy, and they're forcing that on children in the United States.

I mean, it's unbelievable. And I think what you're doing through stand for Health Freedom is is commendable, unbelievably important. And I highly encourage people to go there and get involved and support the mission today.

Thank you for that, Nathan. So, so helpful for sure. Yeah. Thank you sir. I mean, I just I want to say thank you so much for your time, your wisdom. I would love to talk to you for like, 3 or 4 hours on this topic.

You have to do a follow share. Yeah. Yeah. You have so much to share, so much wisdom. Truly, you know, a a poet and a scientist. And, and, you know, very eloquent with the, with how you explain things.

I just appreciate all your work. I would encourage people to go, to regenerate project comm, get a copy of the book. It's a great read. You will love it. You will learn a lot from it.

Again, say, brother, I appreciate you. Thank you so much. Same thing. Nathan, you do a great work, and this is one of my favorite interviews, so thank you.

It's, we'll we'll get it out to the people that need to hear it. Awesome. Great. Thanks, brother. Take care everybody. Wish you ultimate health and happiness.

We'll talk to you soon.

Sayer Ji

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