Full Transcript Introduction to Oxygen Therapy and Lyme 0:00 Couple issues you have 0:01 to be aware of with oxygen, particularly around Lyme disease. 0:05 The first one is, a potential halftime reaction 0:09 when you start or a die off reaction or a detox reaction. 0:13 So as I mentioned, we're live can't live in an oxygen rich environment. 0:19 So it will actually kill Lyme disease. 0:22 When you when you introduce oxygen. 0:25 So number one, if you go too fast, too soon, you can kill too much. 0:31 Number two, you can overload. 0:33 Even if you don't, you can overload your elimination organs because you have 0:37 all these cells that have all this waste product built up in the cell walls. 0:41 And if you start detoxing too quickly, all of a sudden, boom, 0:45 your elimination organs are overloaded and you just feel like trash. 0:49 So the answer to that, obviously is start 0:53 slow, listen to your body and work up. 0:57 Welcome to Doctor Talks, the podcast 0:59 where every episode leads to a healthier you. 1:02 Join us as we navigate the world of optimal health, 1:05 uncovering groundbreaking strategies to conquer chronic disease. 1:09 In each episode, we'll bring you the latest insights 1:12 from leading health experts, medical innovators, and wellness warriors. 1:16 If you're seeking to transform your health journey, 1:19 or if you're looking for answers to burning questions. 1:22 You've come to the right place. 1:24 Get ready to unlock the secrets of lifelong health and vitality. 1:27 This is Doctor Talks, real talk 1:30 from real doctors on the issues that matter to you most. 1:36 Hello. 1:36 Welcome back to the Integrative Health Podcast with Doctor Jen. 1:39 Today we're going to talk about someone who dealt with stealth infections. 1:45 Actually was very sick and what he used to thrive again. 1:50 So this is going to be such a great episode to learn today 1:54 we're talking to Brad Pitt. 1:56 So he after a lifetime of strange medical conditions,
Brad's Early Autoimmune and Cancer History 2:00 Brad was finally diagnosed with an autoimmune arthritis in 2010. 2:04 Then Brad began traditional treatments 2:07 until he was diagnosed with malignant melanoma in 2014. 2:11 Realizing that all the treatments 2:12 had higher risk of cancer, Brad was determined to find a better way. 2:16 On his healing journey, 2:17 he discovered that he had Lyme disease and infection called Bartonella. 2:21 Brad's health continue to decline to the point where he could barely walk. 2:24 He had severe brain fog and chronic fatigue issues. 2:27 In 2016, his doctor recommended he either tried hyperbaric 2:31 oxygen therapy bot or exercise with oxygen therapy. 2:36 After researching, Brad decided to try it. 2:38 You are. 2:38 But he decided he didn't have enough confidence 2:41 in what was being sold in the marketplace at the time, 2:43 so he built his own a year later, showing great improvements in his health. 2:47 His doctor asked him if he would start 2:49 making these systems for his patients, and 1000. 2:54 Rhodes was born with the mission 2:55 of bringing down the price of Earth so that more people could benefit from it. 3:00 So this is amazing. 3:02 We're so excited to hear more about your journey. 3:06 And this is what's so great is you took something 3:10 very hard and very bad, and you made it into something good. 3:13 So welcome, Brad. 3:14 So excited to have you here. 3:16 Thank you so much Jen, I appreciate it. 3:18 Tell us a little bit about your health journey and how just a 3:24 how it all happened. 3:25 It seems like you started with conventional treatments 3:28 because you, you had melanoma, which wasn't it just melanoma. 3:33 Melanoma Awareness Day recently. 3:36 I think that's right. 3:37 Actually, you know, my symptoms started, 3:41 in, in childhood, 3:45 I started to develop psoriasis, 3:48 and then I developed all sorts of other weird symptoms that came 3:51 and went throughout childhood and high school and even college. 3:55 And then I started to pick up other autoimmune 3:57 diseases like renown syndrome and other things along the way. 4:00 But none of them were, 4:03 you know, like life changing. 4:06 It wasn't until, 4:09 maybe I guess would have been about 2010 or 2011. 4:12 I developed arthritis, and at the time, 4:17 it was referred to as psoriatic arthritis, 4:21 which is a type of arthritis you get when you have psoriasis. 4:24 It looks just like rheumatoid arthritis. 4:26 But it can happen. It's not symmetric. 4:29 So it might happen in one hand 4:31 and not the other, or one foot not the other sort of thing. 4:34 And so they started to put me on all the conventional treatments. 4:39 And yeah, I was just going down that path. 4:42 Obviously it was kind of scary. 4:44 Autoimmune diseases, especially arthritis, is kind of a big one. 4:48 And it was at the beginning it was impacting me a little bit. 4:53 And then I started to get on these, these drugs. 4:55 And after I found one that, started to work for me, 4:59 I started to get better and they would work for about six months, 5:02 but when they would wear off, I would be in a worse place, 5:06 and then they would double the dosage and it would start working mostly again. 5:10 But then in another six months, same thing. 5:14 It would, you know, it was kind of I was in a worse situation. 5:18 And then finally the end of that conveyer belt was, as you said, 5:22 I went to the doctor and I had melanoma 5:26 and, it was malignant and I was 5:30 I was frightened, obviously, I was a I had young children. 5:34 I was the sole breadwinner. 5:36 I didn't know what I was going to do. 5:38 And I went back to my rheumatologist and I just said, hey, 5:42 you know, I'm kind of in a bind here. 5:44 If I take the these drugs, I'm 5:47 likely to get a reoccurrence of cancer and die. 5:51 And if I don't take these drugs, I'm going to die of the audio. 5:55 My immune disease and in a lot of pain. 5:58 I'm like, so what do we where do we go from here? 6:00 And he's like, well, we'll just try another drug. 6:04 And you know, obviously I read up on the drug this time much more deeply. 6:09 And the drug had similar risks. 6:12 And I was like, gosh, I don't like either a pathway or path B, 6:17 I need to find a path C and that's kind of when I started 6:20 to head off the, the path in traditional medicine 6:23 and try to find the root cause of my issues was a long journey. 6:28 You know, I mentioned the arthritis came in 2010, 6:32 the cancer or 11, I think it was like ten or so. 6:37 And then the cancer diagnosis was in 2014. 6:42 And that's when I really started looking to alternative medicine. 6:46 And it wasn't until maybe 2017 6:49 I was finally diagnosed with Lyme, and I was kind of shocked. 6:54 The doctor was trying the, you know, I was seeing this holistic doctor, 6:58 and he is trying a variety of things that were having no benefit. 7:01 I was doing my own research and trying a bunch of things on my own with no benefit. 7:06 And he said, let's test you for Lyme. 7:09 And I was like, oh God, I don't have one. 7:10 I'm on every antibiotic. 7:13 Never had that bull's eye rash. 7:15 You know, I'm certain it's not Lyme. 7:18 But, you know, I'm like, well, I'll pay the money. 7:20 And I think it was $500 for that test. 7:22 And I was like, I guess I'll pay the $500 just to convince the doctor 7:27 that I don't have it, so we can move on 7:29 and go find the real root cause of what's going on here. 7:33 And he came back and he said, hey, Brad, you have Lyme disease.
Lyme Diagnosis and Search for Root Causes 7:37 And, I said, I 7:40 said, could that be a false positive? 7:43 And he said, well, it's a urine PCR test, which means you've got 7:48 the DNA of the Lyme disease bacteria in your urine. 7:52 What do you think? 7:53 I think, oh, I have Lyme disease. 7:55 Well, that's a that's surprising, but I think having a label 7:59 and knowing what it was, in some ways it was scary because everything you hear 8:03 about Lyme disease for certain, but in some ways it was relieving. 8:07 Well, at least I have a name to this beast, 8:10 and now I can Google around and see see what it is 8:13 and how people are handling it and what the prognosis is. 8:17 And, you know, kind of get a little more focused on my efforts. 8:21 Yeah, absolutely. 8:22 And me, when I look at what your health history was, 8:26 I mean, the Lyme and was probably in childhood when you got bit, 8:30 you know, playing around all of that. 8:32 And that is what disrupted the immune system. 8:35 And one autoimmune disease leads to another. 8:37 And then cancer is, you know, breakdown of our immune system 8:41 to basically so you can see it lining up. 8:45 And it's hard because there's so many other things 8:48 that were probably thrown at you antibiotics, you know, food, 8:51 your you know, it's there's so many things because I have similar 8:55 childhood, you know, history where I had an autoimmune 8:59 disease diagnosed early adulthood but pretty young. 9:03 So it's it's hard when you look back and then you are at this spot because now, 9:10 like you said, you actually have a root cause 9:13 because when you were going to the rheumatologist, 9:15 they were like, here's a drug and here's a drug. 9:17 And I have a few patients that were still working on those other issues. 9:22 And they're they want some conventional medicine. 9:24 And same thing. 9:25 The drug for Crohn's, it does, you know, it stops working 9:28 after a while and the doctor's like, yeah, that happens. 9:32 And we just give you another drug. 9:33 And that's just not the answer. 9:35 That is the that's not what God intended and that's not looking at the root cause. 9:40 So now you have this Lyme diagnosis. 9:44 Now okay. 9:45 My mind goes to you're doing all of this while you have malignant melanoma. 9:50 Plus autoimmune diseases like this is all going on at the same time. 9:54 You're not getting any therapy for that right now. 9:56 Not anymore. 9:57 Oh, and in that time when you started to know 10:01 I, they, they, did a biopsy and, and then went back 10:05 and did a revision to it to remove the melanoma. 10:09 And I was lucky, I believe they took it all out, but the likelihood of it 10:13 reoccurring, I was told, was very high, you know, 50% or more. 10:18 So it's just one of these things where it was like, 10:21 keep going to the dermatologist, which I went to the dermatologist 10:25 for many years, and they would look at every mole on 10:28 and freckle on my body, and then they would cut them off. 10:30 Even at one point, 10:32 the dermatologist had me bring pictures of my skin 10:37 with picture pictures of me 10:38 where I was like in bathing suits so she could look at my torso 10:41 and she found a spot where I used to have a mole, and I did, 10:44 and she even cut that spot just to be safe sort of thing. 10:47 So, there was a lot of, surgeries 10:51 and vigilance, and concern, obviously. 10:55 Yeah. 10:56 So then how how did you start? 11:00 You said you you had the diagnosis, you started researching 11:04 alternative treatments. Yes. 11:07 I you know, I tried so many things and I, I've probably forgotten 11:10 75% of the things I've tried, but I, you know, I've done diet. 11:15 Yes, I did antibiotics, I've done herbs 11:19 in various forms, liposomal herbs. 11:23 I've tried frequency medicine and saunas 11:26 and ozone and, gosh, you know, so much more. 11:29 Like many of us who've had Lyme, you just you throw everything at it, 11:34 sometimes all at once. 11:36 Sometimes a little bit 11:38 more, judicious or scientific about it. 11:41 But just the times where your mental health is at the time and your urgency. 11:45 But, you know, 11:47 and it was funny towards the end of even in the traditional medicine. 11:51 So I had arthritis. 11:53 But then as it got worse, I started to get this 11:55 really bad stiffness in the back of my legs. 11:58 It felt like I had just gotten done 12:00 running three ultramarathons when I got up every morning, 12:04 and just the bartonella pain in my feet were just outrageous. 12:10 I could barely walk like if I had to go to the bathroom 12:13 in the middle of the night, I had to put a pair of shoes on 12:16 just to go from my bed to the toilet because my feet hurt so bad. 12:20 And I went back to the rheumatologist early on, I said, hey, is this arthritis? 12:25 And he just looked at me like, are you crazy? 12:27 Now we don't know what this is. 12:29 And I was like, well, clearly this is all related anyway. 12:33 But you know, inside their box, it's like arthritis. 12:36 Is this whatever that is, is a new name with a new title 12:39 and it don't I don't know about that one has. 12:42 So I started to research. 12:45 I tried all sorts of things. 12:47 And this doctor, at one point he said, hey, we're going to 12:51 he had had me trying different things. 12:53 You know, I've been on autoimmune paleo diet, which is very restrictive. 12:58 As I joked, I try to remove anything from my life that brought me joy. 13:03 Even as went so far as no coffee, I said no coffee. 13:08 Eventually, two years later, I cheated and started drinking green tea. 13:11 I say there's no health benefits there that he can yell at me, but, very strict. 13:16 Strict? Yeah. Too restrictive. 13:18 And I found that 13:20 that, like, stresses the body out more and doesn't allow the gut to heal. 13:23 So that's, another stressful thing that you're going through, right? 13:29 And, I mean, I was a single breadwinner, and I have three kids, and I'm. 13:33 And I'm like, oh, my gosh, what's going to happen if I'm, you know, 13:36 too disabled to even, you know, provide for my family. 13:41 So at one point he's like, okay, we're getting the big guns out 13:45 and we're going to try, some ozone therapy, you know, 13:48 naturally injected into your blood and send it through UV 13:52 and all that good stuff is like, this is going to be amazing. 13:56 I did it, I had no benefit, and I was just so scared. 14:00 I was so scared. 14:01 I was like, he just pulled out his full nuclear option and I didn't even flinch. 14:05 He did nothing. 14:07 So at one point he said 14:10 that, as you mentioned in the intro, I said, well, almost like this is his Hail 14:15 Mary is like, Brad, you need to do hyperbaric 14:18 or do you need it to air, which I had never heard of. 14:21 So I first said, well, I'm gonna do hyperbaric, I've heard of that. 14:24 And so I researched it and it was super expensive. 14:28 We live in the Dallas-Fort worth area and he's like, look, 14:32 you can get like a half price deal if you're willing to go out to Florida. 14:37 And I know this clinic in Florida, 14:39 which was still tens of thousands of dollars 14:41 plus of air flight, plus you had to do it for maybe seven weeks or something. 14:46 So you have to find housing and probably rent a car, 14:50 you know, it's like so it probably wasn't a whole lot of savings. 14:53 And I was like, I can't. 14:54 And it's the protocol for hyperbaric for Lyme. 14:58 You can't do the soft shell things you do in your home. 15:00 You see LeBron James doing. 15:02 You need to do the hard shell the the s the heavy hitter. 15:06 That's an important that's an important point to talk about. 15:10 You know the ones that if you can't be on your cell phone 15:14 inside of them, you know, because it would catch fire. 15:18 My husband and I talk a lot about that. 15:20 He's like, those aren't really hyperbaric chambers. 15:23 And I'm like, yeah, some benefit, but not like you were saying. 15:26 Not the real ones. 15:27 And we can talk about that. 15:29 I can go inside a little bit more. 15:30 But he's like, you need to go into the hard shell. 15:35 And that's in a doctor's office under medical supervision. 15:39 You need a prescription, which he was willing to write me. 15:43 Several weeks, seven days a week, 90 minutes 15:47 inside of that hyperbaric chamber at pressure, which means 90 minutes 15:52 plus the time to pressurize 15:53 and depressurize, plus the time to get to the doctor's office. 15:57 It was probably a two and a half, three 16:00 hour ordeal, start to finish each day 16:03 as just like I'm fighting for my job right now, I, you know, 16:08 I don't think I have three hours to give, 16:11 and I'm sure the doctor's office is going to want to do it during business hours. 16:15 So that's just not going to work for me. 16:17 So I immediately knew I was kind of crestfallen. 16:21 I knew I wasn't going to be able to do that. 16:23 Says, okay, let's look at this thing which I had never heard of. 16:28 And there are a few providers on the marketplace, 16:32 their branding 16:35 and all of the language on their website seemed like it was filled with hyperbole. 16:40 And it just like it was Mark's like marketing hyperbole. 16:44 It just wasn't. I didn't believe in it. 16:46 I was just like, man, I don't believe in it. 16:49 It was like 5020 $5,000 for this system.
Trying Treatments and Discovering Hyperbaric Alternatives 16:52 So I said, I just I can't, you know, 16:55 if I could just throw $10,000 in every experiment, 16:59 you know, health and wellness experiment that was that companies 17:02 want me to spend like, that'd be great. 17:04 But I just, you know, this one doesn't feel like I have to say, 17:07 you know, I've done too many things 17:08 that haven't worked to go throw that kind of money around. 17:12 So I did some more research on it, 17:15 and I realized that with some work, I could probably make my own. 17:20 And I did. 17:21 So I made my own, and, 17:25 I took a couple months to get everything together. 17:28 And then I started using it, 17:30 and about a year later, I went back to the doctor for a checkup. 17:33 And he's like, wow, you're looking a lot better. 17:37 And he's like, you know, what are you are you using the oxygen? 17:41 I said, I am like, which one? 17:43 I said, I'm doing what they said, oh great, who do you buy it from? 17:46 So you tell my other patients. 17:48 And I said, I just made my own doc. 17:50 And he looked at me shocked and he said, 17:54 would you consider making them for my patients? 17:57 And at the moment, I wasn't 18:00 I was a lot better, but I wasn't fully well, and I was still fighting for my job 18:05 and still had a young family and so much going on. 18:08 I was like, you know, that's an interesting one, but I'm not sure. 18:11 I'm like, and I don't really I want to focus more on, 18:14 you know, getting myself fully back and, you know, probably, 18:18 probably six months after that, I was feeling well enough. 18:21 I was like, you know what? 18:22 Maybe that is an interesting sort of thing in an interesting way and kind of 18:25 give back after having been through all this and you just feel 18:29 like you're kind of walking through the jungle alone a little bit. 18:32 And so that's kind of how the birth of the company was like, 18:35 hey, maybe we can do something and kind of bring the science 18:40 of the up forward and, and try to kind of make 18:43 the company a little bit more transparent and less about marketing. 18:46 So that was the birth of our company and kind of our mission as well. 18:51 That's amazing. 18:52 And could you explain a little bit about the science 18:55 of how our bodies use oxygen and how it changes as we age, 19:00 as a little background to what you are is absolutely. 19:04 So first off, what is it? 19:06 It's it's really pretty simple. 19:09 All you do is you do like 50 minutes of cardiovascular exercise 19:14 while you're breathing near pure oxygen through a mask. 19:18 And that's it. 19:19 So it's something you can do in your home. 19:21 And it's just 15 minutes a day. 19:24 And I think that's one of the powers of it. 19:28 So, as far as the science 19:32 of what goes, what happens is every year past 19:36 the age of 25, our body loses 1% of the ability 19:40 to utilize oxygen, which over time that 1% adds up. 19:45 And as we get older and older becomes more and, more obvious to us, 19:51 we have less energy, we have more information, etc.. 19:56 Because the science is pretty clear about oxygen 20:00 anywhere in your body, you have low oxygen. 20:05 The scientific term to use is hypoxia. 20:07 Anywhere you have hypoxia, you have inflammation, 20:11 and anywhere you have inflammation, you have hypoxia. 20:15 So there's two sides of the same coin. 20:18 And so this 1% a year of reduction of oxygen 20:21 is also causing more and more inflammation. 20:24 And so nowadays we use the term inflammation 20:28 as if we're all supposed to get more and more inflamed as we get older. 20:32 Now, there was a gentleman in the 1960s and 70s 20:36 who started doing research on oxygen with exercise, 20:40 and what he discovered was by doing this protocol that we now know 20:45 as a protocol, that he could reverse this loss of oxygen in people 20:50 and bring their cardiovascular system back to a more youthful state. 20:55 And so and he had like 20:57 elderly folks doing it even just for two and three sessions. 21:00 And he came back and measured. 21:02 Then many weeks later and noticed that the benefits 21:06 they got from air were in during, so that was the birth of air. 21:11 And the whole industry was like, hey, 15 minutes of exercise with near 21:16 pure oxygen reverses this inflammation 21:19 inside our cardiovascular system. 21:22 And that is that is the the jumping off point. 21:26 But that's not all the benefits of it. 21:28 You know, when you're talking about tick borne diseases, Lyme disease and all, 21:33 that's co-infections, if you think about it, there's 21:37 a few key pillars of the disease you need to fight. 21:42 One is we have runaway inflammation. 21:45 And as we discussed, inflammation means 21:48 lilacs and hypoxia. 21:51 So obviously giving yourself your body oxygen helps quench that. 21:55 Helps quench that inflammation. 21:59 Better yet, when we're pairing it with the synergies of exercise, 22:04 we're able to get that oxygen more deeply into the tissues 22:07 because obviously your heart's 22:09 beating faster and harder, your blood vessels are dilating, 22:13 and really all of your cells are thirsting for that oxygen. 22:17 So there's all these physiological changes that make it more receptive 22:21 to bring in the oxygen in. 22:23 And so so it helps with inflammation. 22:27 The other thing it helps with is it helps with cellular energy. 22:32 So when your body is not getting enough 22:37 or even take it to a lower level, if a cell is not getting enough oxygen, 22:41 it switches from what's called a rhythmic respiration, where it produces energy 22:46 with oxygen, to anaerobic respiration, 22:49 which is burning glucose without oxygen. 22:54 And the amount of energy that a cell can produce 22:58 without oxygen is about 6% 23:01 of the level can produce with oxygen. 23:04 So very low efficiency. 23:07 And when you have inflammation, that means you have low oxygen. 23:11 All the cells around that inflammation are the low energy state. 23:14 And the challenge with that is when a cells that this lower energy state, 23:19 it stops doing a lot of non-essential functions, including taking out the trash. 23:25 So when you go through this anaerobic respiration, 23:28 you produce a lot of metabolic waste products a lot more. 23:32 Not only it lower energy, you're producing more waste. 23:35 And that waste just builds up inside the cell wall. 23:38 And so now you've got this body 23:40 that's toxic inside and it's at a lower energy state. 23:44 And that includes various components of your body. 23:47 Every system in your body is made of cells, including your immune system. 23:51 So your immune system is also at a lower state. 23:54 So that's why wine and Bartonella and the bees 23:57 you try to create inflammation is it weakens the body, 24:03 it weakens the immune system and weakens the defenses 24:07 and makes the makes the real estate more, 24:11 more comfortable for the, infectious agent. 24:15 And so when we're flooding our body with oxygen, we're reversing those dynamics. 24:21 We're turning off the inflammation it uses. 24:24 We're ramping up the immune system, and we're detoxifying all of that stuff 24:30 that's been building up in our cell walls and inside of our blood. 24:33 Because, oxygen is a very powerful detoxify. 24:38 And as a matter of fact, most of these complex chemicals we have in our body 24:44 that need to be excreted, through our various equatorial systems, 24:48 they need oxygen to break it down through a process called oxidation. 24:53 And basically all that is, is oxygen. 24:55 Combined with that more complex chemical and breaks it
How Exercise with Oxygen Therapy Works 24:58 into simpler chemicals that are kidneys, in our liver 25:02 and in our elimination organs can remove from our body. 25:06 So that's kind of what's great about 25:09 air for me is that scientifically, 25:13 it's it's able to bring up our immune system, 25:17 bring down the inflammation 25:20 and help us detox ify and give us more energy. 25:24 And that's energy that we fields. 25:26 It gets rid of the brain fog, clears our head and allows 25:31 us to make it through the day, which was was always a challenge for me 25:35 at the worst points and even some of the not so terrible points, 25:39 but also energy for all of our, all of our body systems, whether it be 25:44 your kidneys able to do their job, your heart, your liver, skin repair, etc. 25:50 all of that happens. 25:51 It's much more efficient when we have the energy. 25:53 So and that's the science. 25:56 Yeah. That's amazing. 25:57 Are there I guess, are there any negatives to this. 26:01 Like what are 26:03 could there be any side effects for introducing pure oxygen like this. 26:07 It's a great question. 26:08 There's only really a couple issues 26:12 you have to be aware of with oxygen, particularly around Lyme disease. 26:17 The first one is, a potential Henrickson home reaction 26:21 when you start or a die off reaction or a detox reaction. 26:25 So, as I mentioned, we're live. 26:29 Can't live in an oxygen rich environment, so it will actually kill Lyme disease. 26:34 When you, when you introduce oxygen. 26:37 So number one, if you go too fast too soon, you can kill too much. 26:43 Number two, you can overload. 26:45 Even if you don't, you can overload your elimination organs because you have 26:49 all these cells that have all this waste product built up in the cell walls. 26:53 And if you start detoxing too quickly, all of a sudden, boom, 26:57 your elimination organs are overloaded and you just feel like trash. 27:01 So the answer to that, obviously is start 27:05 slow, listen to your body and work up. 27:08 I was tell folks, 27:10 you know, with Lyme disease, we never want to go running screaming 27:13 through the front door. 27:15 We kind of want to go creeping in through the back door. 27:17 We don't want it to know 27:18 we're doing something new, which is that, you know, it's like boiling a frog. 27:22 You start out and you just slowly, slowly, slowly increase. 27:27 The, the 27:28 pressure and, on the, on the disease. 27:31 So that's the first, the first risk you have to be aware of. 27:35 The other risk 27:38 with oxygen in general, you may have heard of oxygen toxicity. 27:41 So if there's a diver in there spending many hours 27:45 undersea breathing pure oxygen, they can get oxygen toxicity. 27:48 And what this essentially is, is the oxygen 27:52 gets trapped in the bloodstream and it can't get out. 27:55 And it causes causes problems. 27:58 And that can happen with oxygen. 28:01 However, with exercise the oxygen therapy, it cannot happen. 28:06 And there's a couple reasons why it can't. 28:09 The first reason is, we we have a reservoir 28:14 that has a fixed amount of oxygen. 28:16 It's 1000l, and 1000l 28:19 is not enough oxygen to give you oxygen toxicity. 28:23 And the second reason is, even if we could make that reservoir 28:28 ten times as large, you still couldn't get oxygen toxicity 28:32 because as you're exercising and when you're exercising, 28:36 you're producing a massive amount of carbon dioxide. 28:40 And carbon dioxide we often think of is like a waste product, 28:43 that we just need our body just needs to eliminate through our lungs. 28:47 And it is however, it also has a secondary purpose, 28:51 which is it creates pressure inside of our circulatory system 28:54 that drives the oxygen out and into the cells. 28:57 And so when you're exercising, you actually can't overdo oxygen. 29:02 So oxygen toxicity is a non-issue 29:05 for exercise and oxygen therapy. 29:09 And then the only other risk is oxygen 29:12 is, a flame accelerator. 29:15 It's not flammable like gasoline. 29:17 You can't turn oxygen into, into, a blow torch or something like that. 29:22 I could put a lighter to the end of the hose 29:24 we use, and it's not going to start shooting fire, but 29:28 if you had a fire going, it would make it burn hotter and faster. 29:32 So the only requirement is we tell folks are going to keep it 29:36 away from your gas appliances, your stove, your furnace, your water heater. 29:39 You want to keep it at least ten feet away from those, 29:42 and you don't want to be smoking or have any sources of ignition. 29:45 I do also tell folks, however, if you had a flame in your house 29:51 that was large enough to burn through our reservoir and release 29:54 that oxygen, you already have a big problem here. 29:58 And obviously 29:58 you probably don't want to be in that room, 30:00 and you probably don't 30:00 want to be in that room either way, but, yeah, that's really it. 30:05 So we, you know, it's a very safe. 30:07 And the major risk is just when you're starting 30:11 that you could, you could have a detox reaction. 30:14 If you start to hard, fast, you're on mute. 30:17 I'm sorry, Jen, I can't hear you. 30:19 So it definitely. 30:21 Right. 30:22 Like, the Hertz 30:22 reaction could be a little bit scary, because if you're not detoxified, 30:27 also your liver, your stool, like all that is flowing. 30:32 You should definitely do that first and take that time. 30:35 Kind of like you to to get everything else 30:38 working properly and detoxify the best you could. 30:42 And then start on what? 30:44 So so what? 30:47 Oh, sorry. Go ahead. 30:48 The one thing I would add to that is so what we normally have people do 30:51 to get over to, to avoid the detox reaction is you just start slow. 30:55 Maybe you start by just breathing 30:57 the oxygen on day one and build up your time, and then you add 31:01 a couple of minutes of exercise at the end of it, 31:03 and then you start building more and more time into the exercise component. 31:06 So you get to 15 minutes. 31:08 What people find is after they get past that first week or two and 31:12 they get themselves up, you what slips and it becomes a really great detoxify. 31:17 Or so if they're had something else is causing the herbs and human reaction 31:20 you know often years to to stop that reaction or reduce it greatly. 31:25 Oh that's awesome. 31:27 And so your company first of all, how did 31:31 how did you get the name for that 1000V? 31:34 Yeah, it was really, paying homage to everyone's individual health journey 31:39 and recognizing that a journey for one is a journey for one. 31:43 There's not a one size fits all. 31:45 And we don't, you know, claim to be a one size fits all sort of solution. 31:49 But it was also the hope that we could pay it forward a thousand times. 31:54 You know, we've all walked through what I call the jungle alone. 31:58 And when you have something like this and so being able to give for 32:02 to many other people is some my way of making purpose out of the challenge. 32:07 Yeah, absolutely. 32:08 And I think that what makes your company unique is that 32:13 people can do it at their home, because that's one problem that 32:17 I find with working with different, you know, busy mothers, like you said, 32:21 people that are working and 9 to 5, they can't take off work to go 32:26 feel better, yet they feel so bad at home, 32:30 but they can't do anything because everything's closed. 32:33 So how much room does this take up at their house? 32:37 And you know, how affordable is it compared to going to, 32:42 say, a wellness center for this therapy? 32:45 Yeah. You're right. 32:46 So our goal was to make it affordable so you could bring it into your home. 32:49 Because the power of any oxygen therapy is 32:53 or pretty much anything we do is consistency over time. 32:57 And that's very much true in Iowa, because what we find is that people can 33:02 continue to get incremental benefits well into their third year. 33:06 And so our goal and bringing a new customer in
Safety, Detox Reactions, and Starting Slowly 33:09 is always to set them up for success so they can get to that level. 33:13 So as far as space requirement, 33:16 first you need a piece of cardio equipment and that's your choice. 33:19 It can be a treadmill, it can be an exercise bike. 33:22 Sometimes, folks are very sick and they start out they might start 33:25 by standing on a vibration plate, doing this gentle stretching, 33:31 doing one of those little pedal bikes where you sit on a chair and pedal on it 33:35 or anything. 33:36 They get your heart rate up a little bit. 33:38 The equipment. 33:39 Can I ask you? 33:39 So that's enough. 33:41 Like what parameters, I guess. 33:42 Are you looking for? 33:43 So that, like you said, depending on how sick they are. 33:47 But what would be I guess if someone is really toxic like Sears, like, 33:52 you know, can't get out of bed versus someone that has is optimized 33:56 but not 100% like what heart rate range would they want to be in? 34:00 That's a great question. 34:01 So our eventual goal is to get you 34:05 to 70 to 80% of your theoretical max heart rate. 34:08 So for folks 34:09 who don't know that the way you calculate that is you take the number 220, 34:13 you subtract your age, and that's your theoretical max heart rate. 34:17 And then you can multiply that by 70% or 80%. 34:21 That's where we want you to end up. 34:22 We feel like that's the the peak benefits of Iowa. 34:25 However, I always tell folks, perfection is the enemy of progress in this game. 34:31 And the amazing thing about it is it's got number one is many of us feel like 34:36 we're too sick to exercise. 34:38 And when I first started, I mean, you forget so many of the things 34:42 you go through. 34:43 But I saw a picture a few months ago that I had forgotten when I first started 34:46 exercising, the Bartonella foot pain was so bad I was using an elliptical 34:51 and it had like these one 1.5in thick gardening pads on the pedals between me 34:56 and the shoes because I couldn't even stand to push on the pedals. 35:01 It hurt so bad. 35:02 So I was tell folks, you got to start where you are. 35:04 So if that's walking on a treadmill or walking in place, 35:08 or just doing gentle stretching to start, that's okay. 35:11 To start, the first thing folks notice when they exercise 35:15 the oxygen is the exercise is easier. 35:19 So let's say you were exercising on an exercise bike today 35:23 and you were at like a level five, and then you put the oxygen mask on. 35:28 You would feel like five is no longer giving you good exercise, 35:32 and you might need to take it up to 6 or 7 to have that same perceived effort. 35:36 So it immediately makes exercise easier. 35:40 And in addition to that, it, it 35:42 greatly improves your cardiovascular conditioning very quickly. 35:46 Olympic athletes and professional athletes use you all the time to improve 35:50 their performance. 35:51 For us, we're not trying to get back to running marathons. 35:55 Most of us just want to get back to living a normal life. 35:58 But know that your your cardio vascular conditioning will greatly improve. 36:03 So if we have you starting at something that's relatively low level, that's okay. 36:07 Your energy status is going to improve. 36:10 You know, some of your pains are going to start to go away, 36:13 your conditioning is going to improve. 36:15 And just naturally, you're going to start to want to push yourself a little bit 36:18 more and a little bit more. 36:19 And then it could be 36:20 three months, could be six months, whatever it takes you to get there. 36:24 All of a sudden there you are doing 15 minutes at 70 or 80% without a problem. 36:29 And, kind of shocking yourself, saying, I didn't think I'd do this 36:33 at the beginning of it. 36:34 Yeah, that's pretty cool. 36:35 And so let's go back how you said that athletes use this 36:39 so kind of makes me feel crazy that, you know, athletes use this, 36:45 to just improve their performance, their VO2 max. 36:49 We know VO2 max is important for longevity, yet 36:53 why isn't there one of these in every single hospital? 36:57 You know, every single outpatient, you know, therapy center, 37:01 physical therapy center. 37:02 So, it's for me, it's frustrating because, you know, it works. 37:07 You're passionate about this. 37:09 Why isn't this in every street corner? 37:11 And I know that's why you created your company to make it affordable. 37:16 But it's frustrating, right? 37:18 Yeah. So. 37:19 And the business model in the industry, when we, when we launched was really 37:25 they were primarily selling to cardio 37:28 or chiropractors in like cryo clinics and doctor's offices 37:32 who were then turning around and selling it as a service. 37:35 So that's why they could charge, you know, $20,000 for a unit. 37:39 That office would make that that money pretty quickly. 37:42 And our goal is, oh, hey, if we bring down the price of these things, 37:46 then the demand will be much greater and then more people can afford it. 37:51 And so that was kind of a flip. 37:54 And that is really our goal. 37:55 There's not too many people in America who are healthy enough 37:59 to move who or the world who couldn't benefit from this. 38:03 We're helping folks not just with Lyme disease. 38:06 We're helping people recover from cancer. 38:09 Oxygen is very anti-cancer, and we're helping folks 38:13 recover from Alzheimer's and Parkinson's 38:15 and cognitive decline, strokes, CTE, 38:20 autoimmune conditions of various sorts, 38:23 long Covid, you name it. 38:26 So there's there's no one who could benefit from, more oxygen. 38:32 And, every doctor you've ever seen 38:36 has had to read the physiology textbook by a doctor named Arthur Green.
Building 1000 Roads and Home Use 38:42 And so he's the it's this textbooks 50 years old and every doctors it's standard. 38:48 They have it. Yeah. 38:49 And yeah, I can see I can see the cover. 38:52 It's like orangish and like a ugly orange color in blue. 38:55 Anyway, I have one of the editions, in my barn now. 38:58 Yeah. Yes, absolutely. 38:59 And one of the things he says is at the root of it, 39:02 every disease is cause is a lack of oxygen. 39:06 So there you have. 39:08 I mean, so your point, why aren't why isn't it available to more folks? 39:12 I'm unaware, but, you know, that's kind of our goal. 39:15 And our mission. 39:16 And, we're helping a ton of folks who have all sorts of chronic conditions. 39:21 Yeah. 39:21 So say someone's listening and they're going to go to your website. 39:24 You just Google 1000 roads. It comes up. 39:26 I was doing it during our chat 39:28 and because I'm like, I want to, I want to see how affordable 39:31 I think it's affordable, but I have some questions about it. 39:34 So you buy the machine, 39:37 the device and then how do you get the oxygen? 39:41 Great question. 39:42 So an Iva system comprises of a device 39:45 called an oxygen concentrator that produces oxygen. 39:49 What it does is it takes the oxygen in the air, 39:51 which is at about 21% at sea level, a little bit less up in the mountains, 39:56 and it purifies it to, 40:00 93% oxygen separating the oxygen from the nitrogen 40:04 and the argon in the air and just allow 93% oxygen through. 40:08 And then we take that oxygen and we fill a large reservoir. 40:12 As I mentioned earlier, that's about 1000l. 40:14 So our reservoir you were asking size is about 40:18 six feet wide, 5.5ft tall. 40:22 And it's on a stand. 40:23 And then when it's fully inflated, it looks like a big balloon. 40:26 When it's fully inflated, it's probably about two and a half or three feet thick. 40:31 So 2000l, if you think about 40:33 a two liter bottle of soda, it's 50 of those worth of oxygen. 40:37 The reason why we do. 40:38 And then from so the device fills the reservoir. 40:41 And then the reservoir has a hose that hooks up to a mask 40:44 that you wear when you exercise. 40:45 And the reason for the reservoir is the devices we sell. 40:49 We sell two systems, one that produces five liters of oxygen 40:53 a minute, and the other that produces ten liters of oxygen per minute. 40:57 Now, when you're exercising, you can use easily 41:00 50 or 60l of oxygen a minute. 41:03 So the way we solve that without having you buy a whole host of these machines 41:08 and kind of game them together 41:10 and not blow your circuit, is we use that reservoir as a buffer. 41:13 So you turn on this machine, it filters out the oxygen, 41:17 fills this reservoir, 41:19 and then, subsequent to filling the reservoir, you can 41:22 you can plug in your mask and do your 15 minutes. 41:24 Oh, well, so say we're listening. 41:28 Someone's listening. 41:28 Maybe even I'm thinking about this, and, 41:30 wow, this would be good for my kids that are athletes. 41:34 My one son that has, mild pains. 41:37 Pandas from a mold injury in preschool. 41:41 I want to work on my VO2 max. 41:43 Oh, and I have, I have Lyme from childhood for sure. So. 41:47 So we're I'm thinking about that. 41:49 Well, so what do you do? Everyone gets a different mask. 41:52 Or how can you use this in a family to benefit everyone? 41:56 Absolutely. 41:57 So, we the masks are size. 42:01 Excuse me? 42:01 We have three different mask sizes, that fit the vast majority of folks. 42:06 And you can we do recommend everyone get their own mask. 42:09 You may sweat in it and maybe spit in it. 42:11 And so even no matter how intimate you are, 42:13 you may not want to share that with someone. 42:15 But in in cases where people are, budget 42:19 constrained, if they have the same size space, 42:21 they can also just wash the mask with warm soapy water, drip dry it, and reuse it. 42:26 But most folks get their own mask. 42:29 And the great thing about it is also is that the mask has this 42:33 five way Velcro adjustable harness to get it to just be right. 42:36 It's a very comfortable mask. 42:38 And then you can clip in and out of it. 42:40 So if it's just your mask, you adjust it once 42:44 and then it's very fast to clip it on and off and get going. 42:47 It takes you 10s and I, I'm a firm believer 42:51 that if we can make things convenient, remove the friction 42:54 of trying to do it, then you're more likely to do it. 42:57 And as I said, our goal is to get you to do it over a long period of time 43:01 because you're going to see great benefits. 43:03 And, you know, that sounds harder than it is. 43:06 Oftentimes, I have folks come to us in the beginning like, 43:08 I don't know 43:09 if I'm going to want to exercise, and I'm certainly not going to want it. 43:12 Can I be done with this in a couple of months? 43:15 And then I have these folks sometimes come back 43:17 and they got an abnormal stop in there. 43:18 So I think that's a great it gives me so much energy. 43:21 Clears my head. 43:22 Just so many things. 43:24 So, it becomes part of your lifestyle. 43:27 But in Lyme disease and you are alluding to this, 43:30 I always talk about what I call the ceremonies. 43:33 The ceremonies that took about my time. 43:34 I got to count the pills every morning or night. 43:37 I've got to go in the sauna 43:38 for just 20 minutes and then go do the right machine for 43:42 30 minutes and then go do this thing and and go to the other guy, go to the doctor 43:46 and get the ozone shot. 43:47 All these ceremonies, you know, trying to get yourself better. 43:52 None of them are massive in and of themselves 43:55 usually, but they just add up and eventually it just becomes 43:58 it becomes so much that it's a breaking point for folks who are like, 44:01 yeah, I spent six hours doing all this stuff. 44:04 And yeah, I think I feel a little better, but like no quality of life. 44:08 I've spent all my free time trying to get myself to place 44:12 where I can feel normal for a moment or closer to normal. 44:17 And I think that's the great thing about this is it 44:20 is just 15 minutes and something you can do in your own home. 44:24 There's no travel and it does so many things. 44:28 It's going to help killed Lyme. 44:30 It's going to help get rid of the inflammation, 44:34 and it's going to help detoxify you. 44:36 So you kind of get you know, you get a multi, multi benefit in 15 minutes. 44:41 So yeah, that's pretty amazing. 44:44 And I just love your passion that you saw a problem 44:49 and you wanted to give a solution to help others and help others feel better. 44:54 So it's it's really awesome. 44:56 And I think it's a great therapy. 44:59 I haven't recommended it to many patients and I think I will now. 45:03 So I think this is amazing and it's very doable. 45:08 Like you said, you know, it's it's not asking too much. 45:10 It's, you know, hyperbaric can be very difficult. 45:13 And very expensive too. 45:15 So thank you so much, Brad, for sharing 45:19 your, your story and your passion. 45:22 I'm sure our listeners have a bunch of questions. 45:25 I'm sure that they will want to know how they can do this. 45:29 What are the protocols? 45:31 Everything. 45:31 So can you tell our listeners how to find you? 45:35 Sure. 45:35 You can go to our website, 1000 us.And Rhodes. 45:41 Redstate.com 1000 Rhodes. 45:44 Com and if you have any questions, there's a contact page on there. 45:48 You can send us an email or give us a call and, would be happy to chat with you. 45:52 A great thank you so much. 45:54 And I'm glad you're just feeling so much better and 45:58 rocking everything now we need an awesome business. 46:01 Thank you so much, Jen. 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