Building Blocks for Foundational Health with Plant-Based Nutrition

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Hey everybody, Robby Besner back with another amazing interview. And I am just so blessed because my dear friend, Dr. Simone Laubscher is back again. And today she is the ambassador for a company called WelleCo, who’s one of the sponsors of the summit, and besides that we have a mutual great friend, she’s actually best friends with Elle Macpherson who is the founder and, you know, the sort of the figurehead, she is WelleCo. And Dr. Simone is actually the chemist, the doctor, the mastermind that puts all the formulations together with Elle, in combining both their love and joy for life and the constitution of life which is even deeper than just feeling good today. They really unpack it, and they’ve rebuilt Humpty Dumpty in the best, You could ever imagine expression, through their formulations and the things they do. 

So what better ambassador to talk about, the formulations and what WelleCo has done in its short time? I mean, just a few years they’ve been around, you know? They are worldwide. It is an Australia based company and yet they’re in many of the major cities and including the U.S. So Dr. Simone, thank you so much for joining us, carving out some more time to share with us, some of the most amazing, just stories about WelleCo and how you come to formulations and everything. So, you know, for the people that are tuning in, that are getting to know you, can you give us a little bit of a backdrop of like, you know, maybe how you got even interested in nutrition and then walk us forward with meeting Elle and then move us a little bit forward in some of the sort of fundamental pillars of WelleCo that you all have put into so much thought, intention, beauty, so much love into every formulation. So I know that’s a mouthful, but let’s start. We’ll see where we go.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Thanks Robby, always so fun to be with you as always. So as we at Rejuv and WelleCo, we love all things, there aside with you and Melody. So we’re blessed, and obviously we’ve been working together, you and I, for many years, having great success with our patients and obviously with WelleCo as well. So it’s a great little union so we’re blessed to have their in our lives as well. But yeah, so I’m a nutritionist and naturopath. My mom got cancer when I was in high school, breast cancer, and I always thought I wanted do traditional medicine and then missed up by one mark at uni and then kind of went on a naturopathic journey and thought, oh my gosh, I don’t know anything about cancer. So I went off and I had raging eating disorders back then. 

I was anorexic and approval addiction, performance addiction, whatever you wanna call it, is bit of a perfectionist. So I then went on to university in New South Wales and did a bachelor in science. And then because of my eating disorders, went on to do master’s degree in metabolic issues and got myself well. And then with my mom’s history, that was always something really close to my heart and then went on to do a PhD in nutrition as well in cancer. But my original studies were in Australia. I’m half English, half Aussie, oh my dad’s English and German. But anyway, so did my first studies in Australia then went off to London for a year like everyone does, stayed 17 years. Did my post-grad there, met my hubby, had my kids, and we still have our clinic there on Harley Street. And that’s how I actually met Elle over seven years ago. 

And she just came to me like a normal patient. Word of mouth, we’ve never advertised, we’ve had our clinic, my husband there and myself for 20 years. And she was referred from a beautiful colleague, a mutual friend who’s also, she’s gone on a healing journey. Also uses their Karen Hackney. So she was a journalist and just word of mouth referred Elle to me, although years ago, Elle was approaching 50th birthday, was just feeling out of sorts, and just felt like she was doing so many things right. She’s, you know, doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke, doing a sports, all the things that kept her being the body and looking and feeling amazing for so long, they weren’t working anymore. And when I did a few tests, we realized, you know, her inflammation markers were really high. Her hormones were out. She wasn’t absorbing, she emptied a huge bag of supplements on my desk in Harley Street. And she’s like, I’m taking all of these supplements. Why don’t I feel good? And I’m like, well, they’re all synthetic.

I’m like, does your pee go fluorescent yellow? Yes, okay, you’re not absorbing. And then we started to unpack the power of plants of whole food supplements versus synthetic. And we took her on a journey, and that’s really, to me how WelleCo was born. It wasn’t something that she came to me saying, oh, I know you formulate supplements. I know you have your own lab in Wales, you’ve been doing this. It was just her coming out of her need to get well and to get back and to be feeling, you know, how she had felt for so long, mind and body. And from her personal journey with me, I gave her some of our Rejuv supplements and she’s like, I don’t wanna take capsules. Can’t you just put all these pills into one powder? I just wanna say a couple of teaspoons a day. And I’m like, gosh, yeah, I can do that. And that’s how our iconic first product was born with the Super Elixir, which I could see on your desk as well. We’re both drinking.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Yeah, there’s some energy about this whole delivery system, and yeah, I don’t go a day without having my Elixir. Yeah, and the times when I’m traveling and for some reason I run out or I forget, I truly miss it. Like my body misses it. And you know, I go through my routine and I go, what is it? I’m just not right. And then I think, oh my God, I didn’t have my Elixir today. Of course, that’s what it is. Yeah, and so, you know the whole pain to purpose like how we all have evolved, the way that the universe has brought us together however, and the way that we sought out the cards, to create this, forge a new way. And that’s really what you’ve done. Like you’ve done it in your own personal life and in your own way. And now you join with Elle who’s doing the same thing. 

So now we’ve got the power of these two amazing women, combining their efforts and their journeys and their love for life and their love to help, you know, just the average person, you know, get back to health, it’s truly amazing. You know, I’ve said this to you 100 times but one of that comes to my mind when I think of you was the word unwavering. Because you’re constantly like there’s so many distractions in life yet you’re able to kind of stay zero focused, on your purpose and your mission. And one of them clearly is expressed in your work with Elle and with WelleCo. That’s why I feel it’s so important for you to be here today and for WelleCo to be here today because, every single line patient, that’s tuning in is feeling that pain, and they’re feeling like lost in it. And what you guys have created is a simple way out, a simple way to create that primal healing process through nutrition. So tell us more, the formulations got, is all plant based and has more than 45 different nutrients in it.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

43.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

43, yeah.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Yeah, it’s like with any disease, it’s particularly, I’m treating my Lymes patients. I have done for 15 years out of my, you know, 23 year career. I’ve been doing Lyme. Living in the UK a lot, there was a lot of Lymes, Richmond Park, a lot of deer and a lot of ticks and so we did a lot of Lymes in the UK, many many patients online in the U.S as well, Canada. But for when it comes to any disease, but particularly the Lyme, we need to restore the foundations of your health. And that’s why when I was forming the Super Elixir and working closely with Elle and our WelleCo team, I looked over on my shoulder of all those years of experience as a nutritionist and naturopath, and kind of analyzed, what does the average patient come in, where are the deficiencies, what do they need? And we were really ahead of our time back then. 

And even I only started formulating myself for Rejuv, born out of my own frustration of not being able to find supplements that work. So once again, just born out of the pain as you said, born out of the knee. And the same thing with the Super Elixir is we didn’t just look at, you know, the average, we’re placing a multivitamin, we looked at what functional support does the brain need as well? And no one was really doing that back then, you know, like eight years ago, people were all about the fuel or maybe synthetic, maybe people starting talk about a bit of plant based, but I think that’s what’s really set us apart and that’s why even this morning I finished off my bag of Super Elixir and I’m like scratching through my cupboard going, oh my gosh, I’m out. 

And then I remember I had a brand new caddy that the team had sent me for Christmas, my Christmas gift. I’m like, oh my God, thank God I have a, you know, it’s kinda like you’re getting this, oh my goodness, this panic, ’cause I myself. And I think it’s that functional support because you’re made up of a hundred trillion cells. It’s impossible to treat everyone, were identically different. Whereas if you go back and you go upstream, and you work out the average fuel of what we need for the systems to work, that average functional support of the detox pathways and lymphatic system, the circulatory system, what do those organs and pathways need to function? And you do the fuel. The body will do a miraculous job at keeping us well. It was designed to be well, it wasn’t designed to be sick. 

That’s why we have an immune system. I even love the phrase of a natural killer cell. I mean, . I mean when a pathogen comes, that is how we are inherently designed, to keep the status quo and to keep the balance of wellness. So, if instead of thinking, people like often I see a patient, they go, well, I’m taking zinc, taking B6, I’m taking magnesium, I’m taking vitamin D. I’m like, but what about all the other, you know, micronutrients? What about everything else we need? And that’s why being plant based, even though there’s 43 ingredients, it’s not just those ingredients. I also love and this is, I’m not good at many things but this one thing I’m good at, is the synergistic relationship. I love to investigate who’s a team player, who works well together? How we can even have a 10 to 100 fold increase in efficacy. If you marry the ingredients together with the other ingredients, they love synergies looking to work with. 

So there was a lot of layers with that. And I think that’s why people feel so well. Yes, their skin’s glowing. But, it is beauty from the inside out, it’s feeling well, it’s feeling comfortable in your own skin. It’s not about, you know, throw away your scales, get over all that over, you know, analysis. Just, how do you feel? Put on one of the favorite pair of Levis, how do you feel, put on one of my favorite summer dress, , how do you feel? Swimming costume, we call it a . You know, your bathers, whatever. Aussie phrase, And how do you feel? And that is all about Elle. I mean, one thing about her, I often say she’s even more beautiful on the inside than the out. I mean, I know she’s the body and she’s gorgeous, but her heart, she’s authentic. She came to me, you know, even got a bit teary saying, my gosh, if I’m doing so many things right and I live so clean and I , do everything and I’m sports. 

And I said, you know, keep my toxic load down, gotta help the rest of the other people on the planet who are having the or who are not doing sports and exercise or whatever, she goes, oh my gosh, I just don’t feel well. And to be honest, she came to me approaching her 50th birthday, the average patient, ’cause they hadn’t put in such a good infrastructure of healthy and mindfulness and prayer. But have you would’ve come to me, you know, more so approaching their 30th or their 40th birthday. So there’s a lot to be said, by all the protocols she’d naturally worked out of like good, clean living. But eventually, like servicing your car, you wouldn’t drive your car for almost 50 years not take it in to get serviced. And so many people think nothing about, oh, I need to go and have a, get my car, you know, tells you on your dashboard. 

But, we also have an internal dashboard, you know? Are you making some weird smells and noises? Are you tired or toxic? Are you exhausted? Fatigue is one the best little lights on your dashboard to say, you know, it’s at the beginning. My husband often calls it as a slow fade. You know, it takes a lot of years to get ill. Even for the Lyme can be dormant, and then all of a sudden it manifests. So if we know if it is dormant or maybe you have been exposed, you can and kind of go, okay, it’s not a war on Lyme. Let’s make peace. Let’s be an amazing host. Let’s restore the foundations. Let’s make sure my immune system is in order. Let’s make sure it’s like good and bad bacteria in your microbiome. No, it’s gonna be free of bad bacteria. It’s part of who we are. Make sure the balance of power is in order, set yourself up to win. Don’t go into fear, that shuts your immune system down. 

I’ll invite the Lyme to go, oh my gosh, you know, he or she’s trying to attack me. Oh my gosh, I’m under threat. Just breathe. Do the box breathing, whatever breathing you like to do. Breathe, take a moment and think about restoring the foundations. Think about good fuel in, functional support, like what the Super Elixir does, and just start at that safe place. Even good habits. I’m taking about a whole bunch of 200 patients through a good habits guide at the moment, which we can give your listeners for free if you’d like it. Just, you know, get those good habits in place, be kind. If you slip up, it’s okay. 

You know, staying today, you only need enough for today. God, the universe, promises, we have enough for today. Don’t worry about yesterday, yesterday will take you out. Believe me I’ve got a big history. And then just trust tomorrow, you know? I’ve got the t-shirt on lots of mischief. So start from that place. Any disease and particularly the Lyme, get your foundations right. And embrace the journey. And don’t listen to, you know, Joe and Flo’s version of Lyme. And you know, don’t get into the fear. You know, stay and keep, you know, dial down the fear, dial up the faith and start to get those foundations in place. And you’ll be so surprised at how miraculous your body is, in dealing with the Lyme, walking it out, cohabiting. You know, the Lyme just wants an apartment in the apartment block.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Right.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

You know? Just wants to live like every organism, hey?

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Sure.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

So make peace, work as a team, you know, don’t go head to head and create an internal crisis. If you are in a time or you are in a healing crisis ’cause maybe you know, your healing journey, you’re going too fast, give yourself permission. So if you can’t get outta bed, you’re totally naked. You know, maybe reduce some of your supplements, do something like the Super Elixir and breathe. Get your feet on the earth, get your feet in bubbler, get in the sauna, get the light in your body, hey? Get the trilight, get the heat pad, get in the sunshine, and breathe and give yourself push-back defenses, and give yourself a little bit of space, to heal. 

And it’s okay to be exhausted, it’s okay to feel like you can’t get out bed, but just small things like sitting in the sauna. I love to sit there like a TP, you know, and if it’s too much for you, of course you can stick with your head out, but just little things, little steps, and we focus on those foundations. And honestly, all, I can actually say that, all of my Lymes patients are cohabiting, and living a beautiful life, even family members, whereby they’re just in , they’re in flow, and they’re living with the Lyme and they’re absolutely living asymptomatic. And that’s for me what I do with my patients. A lot of other practitioners have different angles and that’s amazing and you can take different advice, but that’s how I work with Lymes. And I find patients do really well. I take the next step back in the foundation.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

You know, you’ve hit on so many beautiful words of wisdom. The first that comes to mind is just, the body is a ensemble of different systems that talk and speak and communicate and work with each other is like a family, brother and sister. One needs food and the other one has it, they share, they donate electrons to each other and nutrients and so forth, you know?

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Yeah, it’s a community.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Yeah, a community, exactly. And so first off, different than sort of the traditional western approach where we like to sort of compartmentalize, carve out, you know, say this one’s the enemy, let’s kill the enemy. You know, it’s really about harmony. And these organisms have lived in harmony in our body since the beginning of time, really.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

There you go, yeah.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

And so really it’s the disharmony, what’s happened in the balance in our body that’s created a, you know, perfect storm so to speak for your immune system to be suppressed and there to be an overwhelming growth of population, of like Lyme, or the Bartonella, the coinfections and so forth. That is the reason why you’re asymptomatic at all. So, symptoms come from toxicity and inflammation, and that comes from feeding these organisms, things that they need and they’re just taking life resources from you. And so, first off it’s a system. So think of you as part of that system, both the outside biome and the internal biome, right? You’re there.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Yeah.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

And then the other part that I really heard very loud and clear is, you’ve taken the mystery out. Like what we’ve noticed in our clinic is that the order that you do certain protocols and the way that you dose the protocols, can make the difference between a result or a no result or a really.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Upstream, downstream, totally.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

So you’ve taken that mystery out because you’ve simplified it by simply like one formulation, the Elixir, you’ve figured out, which combinations of nutrients love and want to be together. And that the synergy of these different nutrients, is greater than the result of taking them separately and also whatever one could do. So the body gets depleted from nutrients all day long. And then we supplement with this and that. And so what you’ve done with the Elixir, is you’ve created basically a platform, that you just take a scoop of this powder, couldn’t be easier, frankly. It really couldn’t be easier. And you know, then you, I have the joy of putting other nutrients in or whatever my body intuitively says, I need a little more magnesium and a little more of this. So, I add a little more as I see that I need it. But if all I did was just take the Super Elixir and use that in the morning, I usually like it right after my workout, I would feel perfectly satisfied. I’m not interested in eating, I do intimate and fast, but that’s the only thing that I do besides my hot water lemon, which is my first drink of the day, and sometimes just a little bit of coffee. 

So I love the fact that you’ve really made it so easy for me and everybody else out there with these formulations and WelleCo of course delivering it. And the idea that like both of you, it’s not just Elle Macpherson, but also Dr. Simone. I mean, the idea just from a spiritual and philanthropic point of view that you could say or particularly Elle like you’ve said, if I have the wherewith or the money and to do all that I need to do, and I’m still struggling, what about the average person out there that doesn’t have all that? And then turn that situation around and say, you know, besides fixing me, I need to fix you guys out there. 

Wow, there aren’t that many people out there that really are that selfless in a way. And for that, I was so thankful and grateful for the work you’ve done and certainly, you’re teaming up with Elle and bringing WelleCo and bringing the whole platform of the different supplements. So, there are some foundational things, right? So we’ve got the 11 systems, we’ve simplified it and made it easy for all of us. Elle has coined this three well Elle system or platform. Tell us more about, I mean, she’s come out recently with a collagen application that’s, you know, 70% of her body is collagen. And as we get older, one of the reasons why we age is because our body starts depleting, the ability to make collagen. You know, so it’s not just the beautiful part, the collagen is the connective tissue.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

That I feel strong, look and feel, don’t you? Your bones, your connective tissue, yeah. Well, we were one of the first to do collagen. We formulated the collagen only like so I wanna say like five years ago and then we’ve just gone back to the formula and what most people don’t realize with the collagen is it’s quite hard to digest. We used a wild ethically sourced fish, marine collagen with marine peptides. And a lot of people don’t realize that it’s quite hard to digest. So once again, on the market, we’re always looking at the delivery mechanism. ‘Cause a lot of people have got amazing collagen. I’ve got my collagen in here, my WelleCo collagen, but a lot of people don’t realize it, is they’re taking it or they’re taking the bovine and they’re just presuming they can digest.

 A lot of people can’t. It’s quite heavy on the hydrochloric acid in your gut. So everything we do at WelleCo, is we always take a step back and yes, the ingredients, the fuel and the function of the pathway, not just the fuel, fuel and the function, the synergistic relationship, so even like we made sure we had plant-based vitamin C and rose hips to make sure, your body had the right tools to build its own collagen. And we gave you the collagen, with all the other antioxidants and then the hyaluronic acid. I mean, that increases the cells capacity to hold water by a thousand fold. I mean, who wouldn’t want skin, and plump and, you know, feeling like, you know, you’ve rejuvenated?

 But on the back of that, we made sure also we had the digestive enzymes because you can spend all this time doing this, it’s amazing product, but then you don’t know the condition of someone’s gut. We’re presuming it’s a bit poor from 21st century living. So we didn’t leave any stone unturned, like with the Super Elixir, same thing we used bromelain and we had a look to see how we could make sure that at the 11th hour, it’s cold press, make sure we’re not heat treated, make sure that the ingredients weren’t wrecked, make sure it’s air tight. 

So like you do everything right then it’s in this loose bag and it oxidizes, well, that’s a waste of money. So every little thing, our carbon footprint, we even cared about that. So we made sure that we were making sure that absorbs let’s say a level, and same thing as I said, and the collagen for a Lymed patient is equally as important. So, even though we have the Super Elixir, and I’ll go onto the other two parts of the foundation now, even just adding in a teaspoon would be fantastic for that connective tissue, because a lot of our Lymes patients are gonna feel heavy like a chronic fatigue, and they’re just gonna feel like you just have no energy but not just no energy, you’re gonna feel heavy in your limbs, like you’re walking through mud every day. So that’s also gonna help with the connective tissue. So I always put that in as part of my foundation. 

Now that’s just my green part of my collagen. And just to make a note too, because of the biotoxin binder capacity of the greens, I personally do a sauna, five, six days a week, the massage sauna of course. I do mine after my sauna. I have a few sips before, and then I have majority the other three quarters after my sauna. So once those toxins are mobilized, I occasionally sneak out and sip a drink as well. So when those toxins are mobilized, then my body has the capacity to bind, and literally express out through the stool and your urine and your breath in this way. So another real tip I’ve used for that for the sauna. But the second part of the foundation is our nourishing protein. 

Born out of Elle’s journey, she leaves London, moves to Miami, running around appointments. In London we have a ridge of gourmet food delivery service. So we were delivering her meals every day. So she was totally set. Moved country, and she’s like, oh my goodness, all I can see is non-organic animals to eat and she’s freaking out because she doesn’t wanna put that kind of toxic protein into her body. She’s , she’s back craving sugar. Oh my gosh. You know, mayday, mayday, Sim can you make me a vegan protein powder? I’m suffering, I need support. 

And once again, born out of her journey, which is, you know what I love about the WelleCo story, wasn’t contrived, but she’s like, okay, next on the market, it was at her journey. And then that’s a vegan based protein which is viral available. It’s a rice and P protein, doesn’t mean it’s high carb, it’s high protein, but we used a vegan source. So that’s also gonna be amazing because any disease or particularly the Lyme, the body needs maximum energy left to heal, and to readjust and to balance and to learn how to live and cohabit with the Lyme. It does not have five hours to digest a big old steak. I was thinking about this this morning in my prayer time of how I felt a voice say, how’s your internal tribe? And I’m like, yeah, my internal community is like a tribe. I’m checking in doing this habits work as I said at the moment. And I’m like, yeah, I’m checking with my internal tribe. I’m like how, you’re right. 

They’re because if the digestive system can’t take it, then the adrenal glands or the female and the male hormones, they’re the first to be sacrificed, and integumentary system, and hormonal system. They’re a luxury. You don’t need them to survive. You have rubbish hair, skin, and nails and you can’t procreate and your hormones go sideways. First two systems which will go pair shaped when other things need energy. So, that’s the whole thing with the Lyme, with the vegan protein, is that we need the protein, it is essential. If we don’t have it from our diet, we don’t get it. So it’s essential building blocks. You may be feeling a bit tired, , you need it, but we can’t afford to be digesting heavy animal protein. 

We’re wasting too much time in the digestive system which could be used to heal and readjust. And that’s why I love the nourishing protein, raw Peruvian cacao, delicious, no sugar added, no nasties, you know, blood sugar regulation, chromium, as well as antioxidants in there, as well as allowing giving pre and probiotics, once again, and bromelain and digestive enzymes papain, to allow to digest it. ‘Cause we don’t know who you are. We don’t know how healthy your gut is and it is abomination. And I think it’s really poor science, sorry to be a bit rude but it’s really low efficacy and poor science if you don’t think about absorption if you’re inventing a health product. It’s just anyway, that’s my little bump there.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Well you know, you make a great point because the Lyme patient and just general the public at large, we buy these supplements, and many of them don’t really get absorbed because you don’t have the complimentary, building block of complex in the body. So basically you’re taking a supplement because your doctor said you need vitamin D or you’re deficient in vitamin B complexes and so forth. And so you take these supplements, right? But if you don’t take them in the right order and you don’t have the fundamental base for the body to absorb it, then really you kind of, they’re going down the drain, both your money and your body’s not getting the benefit of it. So you’ve got this imbalance of organisms that are taking food sources and minerals and nutrition from your body. In their natural survival state, they have only one purpose which is to replicate. And the other part is that when they die off naturally, their carcass becomes a toxin. In the die off process and even in their life cycle, they’re pooping, that’s a toxin. 

So, you’re getting all the bad stuff and no real benefit. And so, back to simplicity and back to WelleCo and back to the genius of what you guys have done, it’s truly amazing. Keeping it simple, keeping it basic, teaching us the foundation of health in life, and then allowing our bodies to bounce back, fill in the holes and the deficiencies and the cracks that have created through our own choices and our own genetic and all that stuff. And then the Lyme and actually our epigenetic environment and how that’s affected us. And so with that depletion, having a source, having single source, you know, a company like WelleCo and certainly your main company Rejuv which we’ve talked about before, the combination that you girls have put together is truly remarkable.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Yeah and I think that we’ve been given teeth for a reason. You wouldn’t take a whole bunch of almonds and swallow them whole. We chew our food. So why are we, you know, a lot of companies are, you know, spent a lot of time researching, put it into this bullet. You can’t even snap it. I used to always show patients and mimic hydrochloric acid and put the pills in. I’m like, okay, bring in your pills. Let’s put them in. Let’s see what happens the next few hours and take photos. And like nothing would change. Not even the color would change of the water. So we have to think about delivery mechanism. 

Also too at WelleCo we take it one step further as we are thinking, probably there’s microscopic tears, probably there’s leaky gut syndrome, probably food’s going in the wrong area. What can we also do, with glutamine and with and what can we do to help heal the gut, and to help it function? How can we give more pre and probiotics? I mean, probiotics are great, but prebiotics are somewhat more exciting. ‘Cause you’re saying to the microbiome, here’s a buffet, please go and eat and you know, procreate. 

So we were one of the first people doing that as well. Now I was like, oh, everyone’s about the prebiotics. Oh yeah, well, you know, kind of been doing that for a long time. But I’m glad there are more companies out there doing this. But, it is going back to looking at do how they function? And that’s the same thing with the nourishing protein, is that we are delivering bio available, nutrients your body can use, let’s say the level. Going back to what are you? A hundred trillion cell. 

If you do nothing else, you know, when I remember at university, if you were to melt a human down, it was worth $1 and 76 cents of carbon and oxygen and minerals. It was like, oh my God. That’s just a periodic table of elements melted down into a little pile. So we are so much more, you know, . So, we have to think about the variables. And I think particularly with Lymes, you can’t just be taking a supplement, a hard tablet and hoping for the best. Let’s look at the delivery mechanism. And as I said, we don’t wanna waste time absorbing. So that we can get you out of the time and out of the healing process as soon as possible. And then as I said that you can, you know, go on to to live your life. There’s no reason why you cannot enjoy and have an amazing life with Lyme. We everyday.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

You know, a couple things I wanna add. We have a lab and we test everything. So as much as I love you and I love Elle Macpherson, if I’m putting our name behind what we’re talking about, I wanna make sure that it tests well. And there is a high vibrational energetic, that you guys have put in to your supplement lines, everything, that is none to be. And so, why I say that is because we compare, you know, you can look under a microscope, you can look at the organic chemistry of the compound that goes into it.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Yes.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

You’re looking at synthetics that, or is the pharmaceutical industries, that try to copy what nature has done, but in terms of the way your body absorbs and interprets it, unless it’s got that organic, high vibration that matches the life force of the person, you’re not truly getting 100% or as much of the benefit of the nutrient and the absorption, that you could when you are high vibrational. So you got that going for you. And then many of people don’t may know this. So people may not know this, that like many pills and supplements, they have what’s called an excipient in it which is basically a glue. It’s there, it’s taking up space, but not giving you 100% of the nutrient that you think you’re buying when it says it on the label. And you guys don’t do any of that. Like when you’re buying a supplement, when you’re buying a WelleCo application, you’re getting 100% of what you’re buying. And your body is absorbing and potentiating on a cell level, 100% of what you’re putting in. So I think that that’s really unique and very different than what other supplement companies and people that in this category are doing. And it’s unique and is special. People need to know that. So I felt it was important to say it.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Thank you, yeah. Sorry, even our super skin little new capsules which is having amazing results on acne and all sorts of rosacea and psoriasis. So we’re not anti capsules of course but even that we wanna make sure it’s a vegan capsule, no added fillers. So whether it’s a powder or even one of our local capsules, it’s the same theme across the board, you know, no junk fillers and things like that, yeah.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

No, you don’t leave any stone unturned. It’s truly amazing. You know, one of the things I keep thinking of the list of the stuff in my mind, I’m going, what is my favorite thing on the WelleCo list? And certainly Elixir is the way I start my day. But the way I end my day is with her tea, the tea that you guys have come up with, oh my God. First off, you can’t make an appointment to do anything after you drink that tea, you just have to go to bed.’Cause it moves you no matter how stressed you are during the day, it just shifts your brain waves. 

I’m not even quite sure how you do this. But it shifts me from that sympathetic, dominance, anxiousness sitting at the end of my chair, to the parasympathetic, I’m calm, I’m moving into my theta where I’m gonna get into a dream state. I’m all ready to go. And without a doubt, first off, I end my day and almost every morning I wake up and my pillow is filled with drool, like a pool of drool. I’m just getting that deep REM sleep, you know? So, you know, you said earlier about beauty from in and out, but it’s also the beginning of your day and the end of your day. You’ve kinda created a full cycle of nutrition and the way to give the body what it needs, energetically, spiritually, intent, you know, everything is built in. It’s really the full package. You know, you guys have really done it and done it well so bravo.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Thank you.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

What’s your favorite?

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

It’s hard to have a favorite. Well, my body, I’m likely with you, if I don’t have my Super Elixir and just now this morning, as I said, they have that mild panic going, ah. I had a few ’cause my kids take it, my hubby takes it, we’ve got friends staying at the moment. It’s a massive household. Back in the UAE one of our puppies wasn’t well, she took it. She’s now good. So, you know, we all take it. So I often end up with bags. You know, kids are like, we just put the empty bag back. So I foundationally, I love the Super Elixir. I’m also an old diehard. I just do the original. I mean, I love all the flavors having for fun, but I always kind of come home because there’s something really beautiful from a creation point of view ’cause that was kind of how we started. So I take all the flavors, but I love the original and I’m a bit of a pineapple girl so love a lot in pineapple. 

But yeah, so my body, if I don’t have the, I also get the same feeling. And then with the nourishing protein, you know, I’m a girl. So when I get my period particularly once a month, sorry to be out there, but you know, I don’t normally think about chocolate and sugar unless it’s once a month, my body’s pretty happy. And I’m just like always knows what do with the chocolate protein Elle’s mixed with water or with avocado, make a chocolate mousse. My kids love the kids chocolate protein. So they have that every day after the powder. And even with friends’ children saying, it’s chocolate powder all over the bench tops. But so I do love that, but I also love if I’m going to be super busy like yesterday, I was back to back with patients, and I mix in the vanilla protein with my Super Elixir in water. And I just shake that up and I can be sipping that and I can do like five hours back to back with patients. It just keeps my energy up. So, I love the Super Elixir, it’s foundational, but I use the nourishing protein as a key like chink in my armor, whether I’m getting on a plane, I’ve got a full day of patients or I’m craving sugar once a month, then it’s an absolute godsend. It just allows me and I can be prone to load blood sugar in the past. 

So I just don’t get those hypos anymore. And you know, I’m a bit of a ritual girl. So, you know, I do love the tea. Elle and I have two tea bags. We can’t have one ’cause we’re both a little bit, you know, high energy. Not hyperactive but we both have very active brains so we do two tea bags. And the reason why that works is it’s the wavelength of the passion with the mango, with the hops and the chamomile. There’s a beautiful dance between those ingredients, which I’m not sure if other people have realized and that’s the ratio which will then adaptogenic calm down triple warmer, and allow you to switch quite quickly from sympathetic nervous system, fight or flight into parasympathetic. It’s that parasympathetic switch. And that was what I was going after. I don’t even know if I’ve told anybody that before. You know, I’m talking to another scientist so it’s cool. But that was what I was chasing after. Was that get your foot off the accelerator, get your foot on the brake. And that’s the feeling. So that was the wavelength. That was the pathway I went for.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

You got a bullseye there, ’cause that was just, that really got me. And frankly I generally don’t have a tea before bed as you know, that’s a very kind of European thing or outside the U.S. But my wife, Melody, she started. And when I saw her transform. And she like you, like Elle, is kinda high energy and it just quiets her down. I watch her, I can see it. Like it’s almost like it just waves in like that and she just kinda just goes right from hovering eight feet above the surface of the earth, and she comes right down to earth and is really it’s transforming. And so I really can’t thank you enough for the time that you’ve given us and the explanation, really for the Lyme people that are watching and even practitioners or just general health people looking for optimal health. 

You’ve given us so much information to really think about, and simple applications, simple ways to start. I mean, this isn’t a big obligation. This isn’t, you know, really expensive medications. This is just foundational health, foundational primal health, well thought out, well plotted out, you’ve taken all of your skills, and you’ve taken all of your love, and you’ve put it into every formulation and the combination that you’ve done with Elle is remarkable, and I’m super proud to know you and certainly what you’ve done. And thank you for joining us. But we’re running out of time, we could talk for days. I’m just wondering before we go, if there’s anything left out, is there some message that you wanna leave us because you’ve done such.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Yeah, I’ve got something knocking, knocking, knocking. I’ve got something which is quite important because like you and for us, I treat a lot of pediatrics and children with Lymes. So don’t forget about the kids. Don’t forget about restoring the foundations. Elle Super Elixir kids and protein has all the greens, has the vegan protein, it’s delicious and chocolatey, no added nasties, everything for your immune system. It’s like replacing the multivitamin immune support, adaptogenic, it calms the nervous system down. It’s gonna give you all your antioxidants. It’s got your vitamin D, it’s got your omega three, once against foundational. 

So for kids on the Lymes journey, pre and probiotics and gut support of course, it’s a great foundational tool. And with the anti-inflammatory markers and the BioToxin binders with the greens, with the super greens, which the kids can’t taste. So that as well, I just had on my heart to share about the pediatrics because obviously so many kids run the path, with the deer and the ticks and you know, we treat lots of children and they do really, really well foundational again, getting the right fuel and functional support and the kids just thrive so.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Well, certainly, you know, whether you’re young or old, everything that you’re doing, everybody .

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Quite on to the grave.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Yeah, that’s the beauty of this. And kids have this innate ability nature, our deliverer gave the kids this extra supercharged ability to bounce back so even a Lyme child, you know, has the ability to bounce back given, you know, things like the WelleCo line, the things that you’ve done with your company, this takes the thinking out and the mystery out. And certainly from a parent’s point of view to have a one stop shop place to go, where they can feel confident, that the integrity of the company, the people behind it, they use it, they live it. 

This is all part of their journey, it’s really a legacy that they’re leaving the planet with, this platform, this way that we can have foundational health, whether you have Lyme or you you’re challenged in other areas, it all comes back to the same place. And kids have the ability to bounce back even faster than us older folks. So it’s just a beautiful thing when you just, it’s almost like watering a flower and watching them grow, right? So, wow, Dr. Laubscher, thank you. Thank you so much.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Thank you.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

And everybody out there really loves what you doing, your journey, and certainly what you’ve done teaming up with WelleCo. So thank you as an ambassador for WelleCo and everything that you stand for and the time you spent with us and the message you’ve delivered. And in every day you live it, you breathe it, it’s all part of it. And thank you so much again for joining us.

Simoné Laubscher, PhD

Mm, thank you. We love you guys at the

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Hey everybody, it’s Robby Besner. Thanks so much for joining us today. Please share this content with anyone that you think might benefit from it. And we’re looking forward to having you with us tomorrow for another great interview.