Full Transcript Introduction to Fibrenza and the episode stories 0:00 I decided to start taking Fibrenza for general health purposes, reducing overall inflammation, helping with pain signaling and things like that from some 0:09 nerve pain stuff that I deal with, which I've talked about a little bit on this show, just taking it because it's a good idea to take for those things. 0:17 And then about nine-ish, eight, nine months in, I don't know exactly, unfortunately, I had this happy accident where I swallowed these big pills and they 0:28 went down without a hitch. 0:29 And I haven't had a problem now in the last four or five, six months swallowing capsules. 0:33 Welcome to Vitality Radio, the podcast that helps you make sense of natural supplements and thrive without pharma drugs. 0:41 I'm Jared St. 0:41 Clair. 0:42 I grew up in a health food store and spent over 40 years now figuring out what works and what doesn't, so that you can make confident, 0:50 informed decisions about nutrition, supplements and your health. 0:56 Hello and welcome to Vitality Radio. 0:58 I'm your host each and every week. 0:59 My name is Jared St. 1:00 Clair. 1:01 And back on the natal kinase episode I did a couple of months ago, I told you I had a systemic enzyme story that blew my mind and that it would deserve 1:09 its own show. 1:10 This is that show, you're gonna hear two stories today. 1:13 One is mine and it involves something that I lived with for the last 27 years. 1:18 The other is my wife Jen's story and involves a ganglion cyst on her wrist. 1:26 real world results for yours truly and the love of my life in two very different situations that I just think you need to know about because it's really, 1:36 really cool. 1:37 Before we get into it though, I want to talk to you about what a systemic enzyme is because I'm becoming more and more passionate about this topic. 1:45 I did three shows on this about a year ago, 566, 567 and 568. They're all linked in the show description. 1:55 And there's three of my favorite shows that I've ever done, and three the most well-loved, I think, shows I have done. 2:00 I had lots of people give me great feedback on that series of shows. 2:04 So, if this show resonates with you, go back and check out those shows for sure.
What systemic enzymes are and how they work 2:10 Let's give you the Systemic Enzymes 101, especially if you're a newer listener who found me over the last several months and you haven't heard anything 2:16 about this. 2:17 This is a topic in nutrition that is extremely underrepresented, extremely, underappreciated, I'm going to do my darnedest to get it out there because 2:27 it's so important. 2:28 What is an enzyme? 2:29 An enzyme is a protein that makes a chemical reaction happen. 2:32 Your body runs on thousands of them. 2:35 We would die without them, most people know enzymes or think enzymes and they think digestive enzymes. 2:40 And especially if you listen to me, because I talk about digestive as part of my vital five, but systemic enzymes have a different job description than 2:50 digestive enzymes, although they are very closely related. 2:53 Most systemic enzymes are what are called proteolytic, which means protein breaking. 2:59 But instead of taking them with food, you take them on an empty stomach with no food to work on. 3:04 They can't break down that piece of chicken you just ate. 3:06 What they do is that portion or that enzyme actually gets absorbed and goes to working in your blood and in tissues Some of the very same enzymes, 3:15 though, like bromelain and pineapple and papain from papaya can be digestive enzymes if used with a meal, but they're systemic enzymes. 3:24 If they use different timing, meaning not with the meal. 3:26 Your body already makes its own versions of these enzymes Your pancreas makes something called trypsin and chymotrypsine. 3:35 Your blood makes plasmin, which breaks down fibrin. 3:38 And that word fibrin is the key to this entire episode. 3:42 Fibrine is a sticky protein mesh. 3:45 When you get injured, your body lays it down to stop bleeding and wall off the area so repair can start. 3:51 That's a good thing. 3:52 The problem is when the cleanup crew doesn't show up afterward, fibrin can linger. 3:57 It becomes the scaffolding that scar tissue gets built on. 4:01 it keeps inflammation simmering, and it makes your blood thicker than it probably should be. 4:06 As we age, our own enzyme production drops, so that cleanup group gets smaller and less effective. 4:13 And this isn't fringe science. 4:16 In Germany and much of Europe, oral enzyme blends for systemic enzyme purposes are prescribed as drugs and have been for decades. 4:25 The most researched blend grew out of the work of a physician named Max Wolf and a biochemist named Helen or Helene Benitez. 4:35 Most of human research I'm about to share with you use that blend. 4:39 It's called wobe enzyme. 4:40 Here in the States, those same enzymes are sold as supplements rather than pharmaceuticals. 4:46 and they are really, really powerful in what they can do for you. 4:52 So, the biggest pushback that you'll hear when it comes to systemic enzymes is that their proteins, so they just get digested in the gut, 5:01 they're too big to absorb. 5:03 That used to actually be a textbook position. 5:05 Once systemic enzyme are in your blood, something very interesting happens. 5:09 There's a large protein circulating in you blood called alpha-2 macroglobulin. 5:15 It makes up a surprisingly big share of the protein in your blood. 5:19 When systemic enzymes bind to it, it changes shape into an activated form. 5:25 That activated forms becomes like a garbage truck. 5:28 It grabs excess inflammatory messengers, damaged proteins, and cellular debris. 5:34 Then it hauls all of that off to your liver and to you immune cells for disposal. 5:40 So systemic enzymes don't just chew things up on their own. 5:44 They actually recruit your body's own cleanup system and then put it to work. 5:49 Now hang on to that liver part because that's going to come into play a little bit later in this show. 5:53 So what does all that cleanup look like in real life? 5:56 Well, there's four main jobs. 5:58 Systemic enzymes break down excess fibrin. 6:01 They clear protein debris left behind by injury and inflammation. 6:05 they help keep your inflammatory responses in balance. 6:09 and then they thin out thick, sticky mucus and actually can also assist in keeping blood thin because of what they're doing with the fibrin. 6:18 The research on swelling and pain goes way back to the 1980s, great decade by the way, and it's still coming in. 6:25 This past summer, a study of more than 800 orthopedic trauma patients was published comparing high dose seropeptase, which is one specific systemic enzyme, 6:35 plus standard care versus just standard car minus the enzyme. 6:39 Pain scores dropped faster in the seropeptase group and every sign of inflammation they measured settled down more quickly in that group than in standard-care group. 6:50 On everyday pain and body-wide inflammation, two more are worth knowing about. 6:55 In 2015, a randomized double-blind trial in Germany and the Netherlands followed 150 adults with moderate to severe arthritic knee pain for 12 weeks. 7:04 They got an enzyme blend and prescription anti-inflammatory Diclofenac. 7:10 or a placebo. 7:12 The enzyme blend matched the drug on pain and function and both beat the placebo, so the enzyme was as effective as one of the most powerful insets that 7:23 you can get. 7:23 the Enzyme group also reached for fewer backup pain pills, acetaminophen in this case, than did the Placebo group. 7:32 So a year later, an analysis pooling six of these trials reached the same conclusion. 7:36 The enzymes held their own against the drug, but they didn't rip the stomach lining apart. 7:41 And people were actually reaching for less Tylenol using the systemic enzymes. 7:46 That's impressive. 7:47 Especially when consider how many people in this country and beyond. 7:51 reach for ibuprofen on an every single day basis or Tylenol on every day. 7:56 Systemic enzymes have the potential to be as effective or more effective than that while doing a world of other good stuff for you. 8:06 Painkillers don't do any of that good stuff for you. 8:09 In 2023, a placebo-controlled trial in the Czech Republic gave 33 people an enzyme blend around hip replacement surgery. 8:17 The first week after surgery, the enzyme-blend group had significantly lower C-reactive protein, an inflammation marker in their body. 8:27 They also reported significantly less pain. 8:30 On the mucus side, a study in 2003 out of Japan found Cerapeptase helped thin and clear mucuss in people with chronic airway issues. 8:39 Same principle, mucous is largely protein and these enzymes break down protein. 8:44 If you heard the nautokinase episode, you already know that the fibrin story and arterial health and all that kind of thing. 8:51 Nautokenase is a fibrin specialist and naudokonase and Cerepepase are in the formula that we're talking about today called Fibrenza.
Research on pain, inflammation, and mucus 9:00 All right, so now let's get into what is a little bit more the personal side of this, but we'll share those stories with you at the end because I want 9:09 to leave that with, you it's really powerful stuff. 9:11 Let's start with something that a lot of women live with. 9:14 Fibrocystic breast tissue, that lumpy, dense, tender feeling that tends to swell and ease with your cycle. 9:22 It's estimated to affect about half of all women at some point in their lives. 9:26 Its common enough that many women are told that it's just how their body is. 9:30 But it's not normal. 9:31 The enzyme research here goes back decades, all the way back to at least 1989 when a randomized double-blind control looked at seropeptase for breast engorgement 9:41 in nursing mothers. 9:42 Compared to placebo, seropeptase gave more relief from pain, swelling, and firmness. 9:47 It's a different situation, but it is the same tissue and the idea helping the body clear what's congested. 9:53 Then in 1993, a double-blind placebo-controlled trial gave 96 women with fibrocystic breast tissue an enzyme blend for six weeks. 10:02 Both the doctors and the women themselves rated the enzyme blends clearly better than placebo. 10:08 The one I find most interesting though is from Austria in 1996. Researchers compared the enzymes blend to synthetic progestin, 10:16 hormone drug, in 29 women for two months. 10:20 On hardened areas in the breast, 100% of the enzyme group improved. 10:25 100%, compared to only 78% on the hormone. 10:29 On lumps, cysts, tenderness, tension, and pain, the enzymes matched the hormones drug. 10:35 No side effects showed up at all in enzyme groups. 10:40 Artificial hormone that is often used in this case to try and ease symptoms was 78% effective, but the enzymes were 100% percent effective with no side 10:53 effects associated. 10:54 Researchers pointed out something that I really love about this. 10:57 The enzymes didn't interfere with a hormonal imbalance or a hormone system that was already upset. 11:03 Because that's the whole problem with throwing a synthetic hormone at a hormonal issue. 11:07 Oftentimes, we're throwing birth control at women who are dealing with all types of these kinds of issues, saying, well, 11:13 if we put them on, these hormones are going to feel better. 11:16 Well, maybe, yeah, 78% in this case. 11:19 But the question is, are they going be better? 11:21 Are they gonna be healthier? 11:23 Is it actually doing anything to solve the problem? 11:26 Or is it just keeping the system confused? 11:28 Endometriosis is another issue, another one where hormones are often times prescribed and that is tissue similar to the uterine lining growing where it 11:39 doesn't belong, often on the ovaries and other pelvic structures. 11:43 It's estrogen driven and deeply inflammatory and to keep growing those patches of tissue need a blood supply. 11:50 So they send out signals telling the body to build new blood vessels to feed them. 11:55 In 2015, researchers at the University of Pisa in Italy ran a randomized double-blind placebo-controlled trial on exactly this. 12:03 They took 30 women with suspected early stage endometriosis who were already scheduled for surgery. 12:10 Half got an enzyme and flavonoid blend, half got the placebo for 40 to 60 days before surgery and 60 after surgery. 12:19 The enzyme group had less pain both before and around the time of surgery, then they looked at the blood. 12:25 In the Placebo group, inflammatory messengers like IL-6 and TNF-Alpha climbed. 12:30 in the enzyme, they held steady. 12:33 the Enzyme group also had lower levels of inflammation, and blood vessel growth signals in their blood. 12:38 They even tested the fluid inside the pelvic cavity and it trended in the same direction. 12:44 Everything improved in that enzyme group. 12:47 That blood-vessel piece matters a lot because if tissue that shouldn't be there depends on new blood supply, quieting the signals that build that supply 12:56 is a meaningful lever. 12:58 On broader pelvic inflammation, a recent study out of Russia followed 118 women. 13:04 All of them got standard care and 72 got the enzyme blend. 13:08 Over the next year, relapses of 56.5% in the standard group care. 13:13 In the Enzyme group, the relapse has dropped to 15% versus 56%. The women in the enzyme group who were trying to get pregnant were also more likely to 13:26 conceive within six months after the trial. 13:29 That's some impressive stuff, okay? 13:32 Now, fibroids, these are growths in uterine wall and they're surprisingly common. 13:37 They're also heavy on collagen, which of course is a protein. 13:40 We know that. 13:41 Researchers at Johns Hopkins published a pilot study in 2021 where they injected a collagen digesting enzyme, a systemic enzyme directly into fibroids 13:51 in 15 women before scheduled surgery. 13:53 It was an early safety study with an injected enzyme. 13:56 So it's not oral like what we're talking about today, but the concept is the same. 14:03 We're chasing a growth built on a protein scaffold and the enzyme breaks down that scaffold. 14:10 Now, let me add my own perspective because the published research only tells part of the story, largely because there's just not enough research on these 14:20 things yet. 14:20 And boy, does there need to be more. 14:22 Over the years at Vitality, and we're talking now probably 30 years that I've known about and recommended systemic enzymes. 14:29 I watched a lot of people bring systemic into their routine for cystic type concerns, including cysts, breast tissue and ovarian cyst, 14:38 ganglion cyst. 14:39 A lot things like that. 14:40 And what I have seen has impressed me a lot. 14:44 Now there isn't a stack of studies on enzymes and cysts specifically. 14:48 What the research does show clearly is the mechanism of how they work and why they. 14:54 These enzymes break down fibrin and protein debris and they help calm inflammation in reproductive tissue, period. 15:01 Put that mechanism next to what I've watched happen in real people, and I'm convinced anecdotal evidence is still evidence. 15:09 It's just not placebo controlled or double blinded. 15:12 it's usually the kind of evidence that shows up first before anyone's willing to actually pay for a study. 15:18 And oftentimes, unfortunately, the paying for the study is the challenge because if it can't be marketed as a drug, which these cannot in America, 15:26 most people aren't gonna spend a lot of money studying it, especially if they can't come up with some sort of a patented formula.
Womenu2019s health: breast tissue, endometriosis, and fibroids 15:32 And that just doesn't work in America with the way that systemic enzymes are. 15:36 So you're not gonna see a lotta the studies that prove this out, but what you are gonna to see is a ton of anecdotal evidence. 15:43 Or at least, if you in my shoes, where I get the blessing of talking to real people about this on a regular basis, you going to a see lot anecdotle evidence 15:51 So that brings me to the other half of this. 15:54 Breast tissue, endometrial tissue and ovarian tissue all respond to estrogen. 15:59 If estrogen dominance or xenoestrogens are part of what's driving the problem, enzymes can help clean up, but it's like mopping the floor with the faucet 16:09 still running. 16:10 You want to turn the faucet down too, right? 16:12 That's exactly why IPAIR, Fibrenza, the systemic enzyme we're talking about today, with our Endo Cleanze and liver vitality formulas, 16:21 ones that I developed. 16:22 Endocleanze is built around the big three for estrogen, DIM, Indole-3-Carbinol, or I3C, and calcium deglucrate. 16:30 Together they shift estrogen metabolism toward the protective pathways help clear xenoestrogens off the receptor sites and keep processed estrogen from 16:39 getting recycled back into your system from the gut. 16:42 It also supports healthy bile flow, so all of that actually leaves your body not getting trapped and not being recycled. 16:48 Liver vitality supports the liver itself. 16:50 NAC, alpha-lipoic acid, and selenium feed the production of glutathione, your liver's master detoxifier. 16:57 And milk thistle protects and supports your livers cells. 17:01 And remember that garbage truck that I was talking about earlier? 17:04 Everything those activated enzyme complexes pick up gets hauled to your liver, supporting your lever that keeps the whole system moving. 17:12 All right, so think of it as two halves. 17:15 Fibrenza is the cleanup crew, EndoCleanse and Liver Vitality are the clearance, and they're the ones that get everything moved through the system. 17:22 And of course, all of those will be linked in the show description for you at vitalitynutrition.com. 17:27 Now, let's talk about scar tissue because this is an interesting one and this where it actually gets close to home for me. 17:34 Here's how scar tissues actually forms. 17:36 You get an injury and fibrin goes down first as the temporary patch. 17:41 Then cells called fibroblasts move in and lay down collagen. 17:46 In a healthy repair job, that collagen gets remodeled over time and the tissue settles back relatively normal or original form and shape. 17:55 The switch that tells fibroblasts to keep building is a signaling protein called TGF-beta. 18:01 Normally it rises, does its job, and then backs off. 18:05 But when it stays elevated, the fibroblasts never get the message to stop. 18:09 They keep laying down collagen and that collagen cross-links into tough, stiff, inflexible tissue. 18:16 That is scar tissue and in organs it's called fibrosis. 18:21 In 2001, researchers at the University of Vienna looked at what oral enzymes do to TGF beta in people. 18:29 In patients whose Tgf beta was elevated, basically telling the scar tissue to keep forming, oral enzyme therapy brought it down significantly. 18:38 And healthy people with normal levels, it didn't change anything. 18:41 So it didn't make things worse if there wasn't a problem, but it did make it better if it was. 18:48 That second finding matters a lot. 18:49 The enzymes didn' t shut down a signal that your body needs for normal healing. 18:54 They just pulled down the signal going haywire instead. 18:58 So picture both sides working at once. 19:01 fibrin busting enzymes that break down and clear that foundational scar tissue or that foundation that the scar tissues built on. 19:09 And then the activated cleanup protein quiets the signal telling your body to keep building more when it doesn't need to. 19:17 All right. 19:17 So now my story and my, again, blows my mind. 19:25 People that have been with me a long time. 19:27 I don't know if you're one of those or not listening to this show. 19:30 You have to go back to episode 341, your Digestive Health User's Guide. 19:34 I, at 26 years old, had a severe case of acid reflux from basically doing all the things to my digestive system that I was taught not to as a child and 19:44 a young man and created myself a lot of problems. 19:47 And I tell that whole story over there. 19:50 For those of you watching on YouTube or Spotify, I can tell you right here I built a tremendous amount of scar tissue. 19:55 And I know that there were scar tissues there primarily because for years, well for about a year, when I was 26 years old I couldn't swallow most things 20:06 without chewing very, very very small. 20:10 It would get stuck there and it would either come back up or would go down eventually usually with a tremendously amount discomfort and sometimes straight 20:19 up pain. 20:19 Sometimes I'd have things lodged there for an hour, two hours. 20:22 It was pretty bad. 20:24 When I went to my GI doc at 26 years old, I've never had a personal physician or a GI Doc or any of that kind of stuff. 20:30 Generally, it's general rule. 20:32 I don't go to doctors much. 20:33 But when I want to this guy in Utah here, he did about 800 scopes a year. 20:40 And you know what he said? 20:42 He said mine was one of the worst cases he had ever seen at twenty six years. 20:47 So I knew there was scar tissue there. 20:49 He did the scope, he blew it up with a balloon like they do, basically stretched it out. 20:54 I'm not using the medical terms here, but he pushed it, out stretched out and for a minute, not for minute but for months, 21:01 it was much better and I could swallow again and everything was fine. 21:04 But then it either reformed or shrunk back down, I'm not exactly sure. 21:11 And for years and years I've had to be cautious eating more slowly than most people, chewing my food more precisely than people to prevent from choking 21:23 because I have an obstruction there. 21:25 He told me that that, before he stretched it, was about the size of a dime and it should be at least the same size as a quarter. 21:31 So that was my situation. 21:33 Now, as an adult for, you know, all those years past that who runs a supplement store for a living, who sells a lot of pills and would like to take a lotta pills, 21:44 I was limited to what are called single lot capsules, kind of a standard capsule. 21:49 That's this size right here for people watching. 21:52 I could swallow those fine. 21:54 I can even swallow two or three of those at a time, maybe four. 21:56 Prior to this issue, I get to swallow as many pills of whatever size you want, anytime you wanted. 22:00 There was never a problem. 22:02 The double lock capsule, that's going to be for people that are familiar with the product, the Ultimate Vitality Multi, The Magnesium, 22:07 our Get Well, Stay Well. 22:09 That's a double-lock capsule. 22:11 Single lot would be like back on track or, you know, well, there's quite a few, our apple cider vinegar formula. 22:16 So essentially I could take some of my own supplements. 22:19 I couldn't take others of mine because a double lot capsule would always get stuck and capsules are probably the worst thing to get. 22:26 If you've gotten them stuck before, You know what I'm talking about. 22:29 It's not fun. 22:30 it can cause a lot of issues. 22:32 so for years, cause I am 54 years old now, 53 when this new discovery hit, I just simply couldn' swallow double out capsule. 22:41 Well, about four or five months ago. 22:43 And the reason I haven't brought this to your attention until now is because I wanted to make sure it was real, and it wasn't long term. 22:52 It's probably actually been, yeah, it's at least four months, maybe five or six months. 22:55 I didn't mark it down on the calendar. 22:58 but I accidentally grabbed a couple of Jen's double-ot capsules, thinking they were mine.
Scar tissue, fibrosis, and the authoru2019s esophagus story 23:04 I was in a hurry, I didn't pay attention. 23:06 We used a little pill container where hers are here and mine are there, and it was twisted or something. 23:12 Anyway, a grabbed couple over capsuls, threw them down. 23:16 They went straight down, no problem at all. 23:19 And then I went to grab a coupla' more and realized they where double ot capsols, because I know the difference. 23:25 Trust me, i pay a lot of attention to this stuff. 23:28 And I thought, what just happened? 23:30 I just swallowed these double ock capsules. 23:32 They went down without a hitch, and that hasn't happened in 20 plus years, 25 plus year. 23:39 And, I was nervous to try it again, so I didn't. 23:42 I ain't tried again the next day either. 23:45 The next thing I'm like, you know what, gotta try this. 23:47 So I took a double-ock capsule, swallowed it down, it went fine. 23:51 Did that for a couple days, then I started taking two, or three, four, Eight, that's the most I've tried so far. 23:59 Double lock capsules at one time without them getting stuck. 24:03 Now, why is that? 24:05 Well, here's what I believe has happened. 24:07 I have known about systemic enzymes, like I said earlier in the show, for about 30 years. 24:21 I am a huge believer and a big fan, and I believe that they break down scar tissue, which I think is what was in my esophagus. 24:30 However, what I learned is that I don't think I was ever patient enough. 24:35 I did fibrinza, along with other different systemic enzymes, multiple different times over the last 25 years, for two to three months at a time. 24:44 I don't think I ever did it longer than three months and I didn't have success. 24:49 It didn' resolve anything. 24:51 But about a year ago, I decided to start taking Fibrenza for general health purposes, reducing overall inflammation, helping with pain signaling and things 25:02 like that from some nerve pain stuff that I deal with, which I've talked about, a little bit on this show, just taking it because it's a good idea to take 25:09 for those things. 25:10 And then about nine, ish eight, nine months in, I don't know exactly. 25:16 Unfortunately, had this happy accident where I swallowed these big pills and they went down without a hitch. 25:23 And I haven't had a problem now in the last four or five, six months swallowing capsules without any problem whatsoever that I have not been able to swallow 25:32 for 25 years. 25:33 I. 25:33 Have not gone to the doc to get another scope. 25:36 because I don't see the point in getting knocked out to have a scope go down my throat to prove what I already know. 25:41 And that is that this little obstruction isn't there anymore, or at least it's not there to the extent that it was. 25:47 I am still taking Fibrenza every day, four capsules a day two capsule in the morning and two capsule at night. 25:53 and I will continue this I think for the rest of my life. 25:58 So Jen decided to start taking Fibrenza multiple different times as well for different things that she was dealing with. 26:05 But about two years ago, she had a ganglion cyst. 26:08 I don't know if you're familiar with what that is, but it was in her wrist and you could see it. 26:12 It was a big lump and it hurt a lot, even if she just rest her wrists on like an arm rest. 26:18 And she dealt with that for a few months with, without, you know, she didn't really know what to do about it. 26:23 And I don't remember exactly how this went, cause it's been a couple of years ago, but I said, let's try you on Fibrenza. 26:28 and within about two to three weeks, significant improvement within a month that was gone. 26:33 She went off of Fibernza a, couple months later, the ganglion cyst came back. 26:38 This time she went on it immediately. 26:39 Within a. 26:39 Couple of weeks it was. 26:40 Gone. 26:41 she's since decided I'm going to take Fibrinza on a regular basis. 26:44 If she does, She has not in the last couple years had anything come back, no problems at all. 26:49 Now, ganglion cysts are interesting because they can go away on their own about half the time they do go way on there own. 26:57 So I'm not as willing to say it was the enzymes that absolutely did this for Jen, but it's pretty safe for me to I think that at the very least they probably helped. 27:10 And the fact that she got two of them in a row and then went back on enzymes consistently and has not had one, leads me to believe that the enzymes did 27:18 the trick. 27:19 But with me, I am so completely floored and blown away at what has happened that I had to share it with you. 27:28 but again, i did not want to show it to you a month after it happened. 27:31 I wanted to see what happened moving forward. 27:34 This is the coolest thing for me. 27:36 i get to take my own multivitamin for the first time in my life. 27:39 So I've had this vital five thing that I've talked about for 15 plus years now. 27:46 And I have taken the things that are in the vital five, but I haven't been able to take my things to the final five. 27:52 I'd taken magnesium bisglycinate for years in a powder form, never my own capsules, which is my favorite magnesium because I developed it in such a way 28:01 that wanted it to be the best. 28:02 Now I take that. 28:04 I took three of them today. 28:06 I take my multivitamin.I take anything I want in that bigger size capsule and it goes down without a hitch, without problem,without a second thought. 28:18 Well, okay, I still have a 2nd thought every time it does,I feel like, oh my gosh, this is like a miracle. 28:24 So I am more convinced than ever now, especially with my own personal story, that this is absolutely a thing. 28:35 So let's talk about if this for you, potentially for something that you might be dealing with. 28:41 So if you're paying attention to this and you think, wow, that's pretty cool, it's gonna work for me, maybe your breast tissue tends to feel lumpy, 28:48 dense or tender, especially around your menstrual cycle. 28:51 Maybe pelvic discomfort or inflammation keeps coming back. 28:54 maybe you are carrying old scar tissue from a surgery, an injury or years of irritation. 29:00 May be your joints ache or you slow to bounce back from exercise or really hard work. 29:06 Or maybe just no inflammation is running higher in your body than it should. 29:10 If any of these sounds like you, systemic enzymes at least deserve a shot. 29:16 Fibrenza is made by a company called HCP formulas. 29:19 They're a very simple company. 29:21 they have like three or four products. 29:23 Fibrinza's their standout. 29:25 It has 13 systemic enzymes and nine of those are protein breakers, Cerapeptase, Cyprose, Trypsin, Chymotrypsine, Protease Acid-stable Proteas, 29:34 Bromelain, Papain and Peptidase. 29:37 Then there's natokinase in the NSKSD form, which is considered a premium form and a fibrin specialist. 29:44 There's also superoxide dismutase, or SOD, one of the body's master antioxidant enzymes. 29:49 And there is amylase and lipase which help clear carbohydrates and fat-based debris when they're taken systemically. 29:57 The formula covers the entire picture, I think better than any other formula. 30:02 And it is in a sustained release, slow digesting capsule that gets through the stomach into the intestinal tract where it can do its work. 30:11 Vibrenza is a fantastic formula at this point. 30:14 It is my favorite systemic enzyme on the market. 30:17 And it is what I've been using through this entire process and what Jen has used as well. 30:21 it's what i've recommended for many, many women with cystic issues and have had so much excellent feedback. 30:28 The typical dose is two capsules twice a day on an empty stomach.
Jenu2019s ganglion cyst and practical Fibrenza use 30:32 That's critical. 30:33 45 minutes to an hour prior to meals, two hours after a meal. 30:39 Period. 30:39 If you take it with food, it's a digestive enzyme. 30:41 It's great digestive enzymes, but that's not what we're using this for. 30:47 At least 45 minutes before and at least an hour and a half to two hours after, preferably two It also lists an activation dose, 30:56 which is four capsules twice a day for the first two weeks. 30:59 If you want to really kick it into gear. 31:00 And I will say that is what I did when I first started on this. 31:04 I believe it's also, I should have checked with her before recording this show what Jen did while she was doing the ganglion cyst, 31:10 at least the time. 31:12 Is I think she either did three twice today or four twice. 31:14 It comes in a 60 capsule bottle and a 240 capsule. 31:16 The 240 capsule bottle is a two month supply. 31:21 You do two twice a day. 31:22 It's not an inexpensive product. 31:23 I'll tell you it, if you're doing that dose, it's around 60 bucks a month, but for what it can do for you and for it has done for me. 31:32 no-brainer if you fall into any of these categories. 31:35 The biggest thing I will say and the thing that I have learned and I'll try to remember moving forward is patience. 31:42 Because this is where most people fall off and it's where I fell off. 31:46 You've got to look at this as more of a long-term strategy. 31:50 Now, my experience has been, especially with fibrocystic breast tissue, that within 30 to 60 days there is a noticeable improvement. 31:58 My biggest concern with the research is that everything I saw was like six to eight weeks. 32:03 It wasn't going long enough to get the ultimately the results that I believe people can get because I've seen them get them over three months, 32:10 four months six months that kind of thing. 32:12 In my case, I did at least three. 32:16 more than once. 32:18 And this time, I think at least nine months. 32:21 Now I don't know between the three months and the nine month, you know, where it happened that all of a sudden magically I could swallow these bigger pills. 32:29 I just know that I got there. 32:32 And so if you've got any of these types of long-term issues or even the shorter term issues that we're talking about with excess tissue, 32:40 excess fibrin, whether it be scar tissue cysts, those types things, systemic enzymes definitely have the potential to have a place in your program. 32:52 And it can be used 100% as a get me from here to their approach. 32:58 These do not need to be long-term things that you do for the rest of your life. 33:01 But if you've got autoimmune inflammation, they can useful every single day. 33:05 If you got chronic inflammation of any kind, it could be useful everyday. 33:09 And if your just trying to get between here and there with something like what I was dealing or what Jen was doing with, 33:15 you can knock those things out in more of a Not a short period of time in most cases, but, you know, a shorter term approach. 33:25 So I always recommend at least getting the 240 count bottle to really give it a shot because at at two months for most things is recommended and be very 33:36 religious about consistency and being very when you take it away from meal times. 33:43 And if you have more questions and you're looking for more protocols for very specific things, I've got those in those other episodes, 33:50 566, 67, 68 are the big three episodes. 33:53 66, actually interview an expert on it. 33:55 67 and 68, are my protocols that I recommended for years and I had great success with, and they're all linked in the show description. 34:03 So, That's the show. 34:06 That is the story, or I should say stories, and I've been wanting to share this with you for a while. 34:10 I have been putting it off, but I think it's time now. 34:24 it's been an absolute blessing and I wanted to share it with you. 34:28 So thank you so much for listening to me and for indulging me in telling you my story when it comes to systemic enzymes. 34:35 I hope it has been helpful for you and that you find some usefulness in this podcast. 34:38 If it would be helpful to somebody else, share with them please. 34:41 Let's share the love and jump on our website and ask any questions you have in our chat feature. 34:46 Call us if you questions, 801-292-6662. 34:47 Until next time, I'm Jared St. 34:48 Clair and this has vitality Thanks for listening to the Vitality Radio Podcast. 34:57 If this episode helped you, follow the show, share it with someone, and explore trusted education and resources at vitalitynutrition.com. 35:06 See you next time. 35:09 Hello, everyone. 35:10 I hope you enjoyed this week's episode of Vitality Radio. 35:14 Just a reminder that this podcast is for educational purposes only. 35:19 This podcast has not been evaluated by the FDA. 35:39 Thank you.
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