Draw Inspiration from a Champion’s Journey

Danica Patrick

Yes, well, thanks for having me in. Thanks for being so instrumental in my journey. Yes. You know me through this health and this health and growth phase of my life where I have had space to contemplate the nature of reality, which we have done together a little bit. But also, I was hard on myself, and there is no separation between the mind and the body, and I was hard on both of them for a long time. I feel like I am doing a little bit of cleanup work from my years of not really understanding how the body worked and how much more there was to learn to be able to do a better job about it.

Kashif Khan

Yes, and your drive pushed you to that level. I see the work you are doing; it is awesome. We were given more years now than ever before; we were living longer, but we were not armed with a toolkit on how to be healthy, like what to do with those extra years. We normally would have died of some bacteria or viral infection at 35, and then all of a sudden we were living to 80.

Danica Patrick

Yes. Well, in the sphere that we run in, my goal is 120. Do you have an age goal?

Kashif Khan

I think 120 is the right number.

Danica Patrick

Yes. Beyond that, you do not know anybody, anymore. I mean, you are obviously going to keep friends along the way, but everyone in your family might not be around. I think 120 feels, and I also, I do not want it to go on forever and ever, at least not to my conscious awareness. Because I watched a cool show called The Good Place and in The Good Place, it is with Kristen Bell and Ted Danson and, I can not remember all the names, but basically it was about they died and they think they went to heaven but they did not, they kind of went to this intermediary heaven hell experiment that one of the devils was playing to see like, could I get them to turn good, it was not really the good place, but in the end, I am going to give the punchline away a little bit, but in the end, they actually make it to the good place and in the good place you are going to have anything you want whenever you want, you live forever and everybody ended up becoming like a meat bag of mush like when there is no death it gives life no meaning. It is this really fun and important paradox that we live in at all times and in all ways, with the light in the dark or the death in life, and you really need it; you need contrast. In this show, it showed how they were given a new portal to be able to basically evaporate into the universe, into the original source energy, and it gave them like really good drive and purpose in their lives to check boxes off and do cool things, and then all of a sudden, one day they just kind of knew it was time and they walked through the doorway and they left. I do not want to live forever, but I do want to live a little longer than 80.

Kashif Khan

Yes, that sounds like the right way to go about it. There are a lot of people right now, the billionaires of the world; in fact, I think it is the biggest longevity project that ever just got funded; they threw a few billion dollars at how do we actually live forever. If you look at the theories behind it, the modality of living forever, it is not about this body lasting forever; it is about how do I extract my consciousness and put it into something else. How do I turn my consciousness into a chip on a plate? That kind of living forever. I do not know if I would want it.

Danica Patrick

But that is what already happens though; isn’t that pretty much what happens? I mean, our consciousness, we do not put it in a chip; we put it on a plate, but a part of this stream of consciousness that we have that is allowing us to have the thought, What am I thinking? That does continue; it is just that we do not remember. It is more about remembering, which to me means being able to upgrade our DNA to be able to hold more information without short-circuiting. Because my experiences in the plant medicine world would tell me, I do not have enough data; I do not have enough capacity to hold all of the information, and that is why we got to forget because then it is too much. In this density, in this reality, I can not hold it all, but maybe as we were upgrading our biological bodies through technologies such as your work and other things, we will be able to hold more, and maybe we will just remember.

Kashif Khan

Yes. Right now, we know that DNA can store more information than any other medium we have in this universe that we have yet to understand. One drop, which would be less than a milliliter, can store essentially everything we know.

Danica Patrick

Oh my God, there you go.

Kashif Khan

That shows us capacity versus how much we have actually accessed, what we were capable of, and why those switches are turned on or off. We had a discussion about that a few weeks ago. Are they actually turned on or off, or have we just not evolved into them yet? We do not know, but the capacity is there. We have these supercomputers; we just use a tiny fraction of them, and you are slowly unlocking a little bit by learning how to use them. It’s just cool. Yes. Going back to the very beginning, I have never talked to you about your actual career in the beginning and all that, the inspiring story of how you, speaking of inspiration, became who you became—where did that even start?

Danica Patrick

Well, it started in my life; I cannot remember it. I do believe that. You just have some people who just get it, some people who are wise beyond their years. Some people come in with innate capabilities that are just unique. Just to be a girl that was able to do what I did and drive race cars and have the, I think probably what made me a little different than a lot of girls is not, because there are girls that can go fast enough, but to be able to do all of the things, meaning like race, competition, wheel to wheel, the pressure of the sponsors, the media attention, all those other things to be able to do all of them, I think, is probably what helped me have the career that I did. I think that is pretty; that was unique, and it has been unique so far. But it started when I was 10, when I raced go-karts. My sister was the one who really wanted to race go-karts; she was eight, and I have realized that I am really just kind of up for anything. I am one of those girls who says, It is not always my idea. But if somebody is like, Hey, you want to go skydiving, or do you want to go to Paris next month, or do you want to race go-karts? I am like, sure, maybe it means I am always in the flow; I do not know; maybe that just came to me, but I was just kind of up for anything. It turns out I was good at it, and it kind of went from there. But it was really a way for my family and I to spend time together; my dad worked a lot, my mom stayed home with us, and my sister was the one who wanted to race go-karts. My dad knew how to work on her because he had grown up racing. Yes, that was where we started. Actually, my mom and dad even met on a blind date at a snowmobile race. Yes, probably. As the universe went, we were going to need a lot of things in your favor to get on this road to racing, so we were going to actually have your mom and dad meet at the racetrack too, because if your mom is not a fan of racing, she might block you by saying it is not safe for my daughter, so we will make sure we line up your parents to be all in favor.

Kashif Khan

Yes. It is funny that you just said that because it reminded me of something that I never thought about. Wow. In my teens, I used to race. I used to build cars with my bare hands. My friend’s father ran a concrete shop; they were the biggest suppliers of concrete in Vancouver, where I grew up, and we used to sneak into the shop every night and use the wrench and all the tools and literally build cars. We would buy all these parts from the scrap yard and build them, and then we would get fake licenses and go and race against Ferraris on the track. That is actually what I intended to do. I got that we were going off track there; just the thing you just said was a wild moment for me.

Danica Patrick

Yes. But we always go metaphysical; I mean, this is where we always end up.

Kashif Khan

Yes, you have to; this is the real world. My father died when I was 17, and I became, at the same time when I was given a scholarship to go work for Daimler, which at the time owned Mercedes to go design cars. I built electric cars; electric cars did not exist at the time, so I am doing engineering work there. Anyway, I planned to design and race; that was my career. Then my father died, and I became responsible for my mom and my sister. He died early, and I vowed that I would never let this happen to me. I am 17, my dad is dead, and I am now financially responsible for the family. And I started with a $6,000 debt; that was day one. My dad owed the credit card some money.

Danica Patrick

Oh my God.

Kashif Khan

And I went down this path of seeking help. And I gave up the thing that I loved to find something that I can say I love more now and that really gives me a purpose. It started with this journey of, Here is the thing that I love: I used to literally build cars with my hands, and I intended to race them all over the world. A big company called Daimler even said, We think you are good at that; we are going to pay for you to do it. Then my dad died and went in a completely different direction, and now I do what I do.

Danica Patrick

Well, because look what happened with your family. It was, call it divine orchestration, call it karma, call it not karma but call it like a soul contract, call it a calling, whatever it is, your familial dynamic facilitated your path. Just like my familial dynamic facilitated my path.

Kashif Khan

Yeah, it would not have happened without it.

Danica Patrick

There are some familial dynamics that are meant to make things hard so that you will wake up and grow, and learn so that you do not do them and so you can break a pattern, but some are good.

Kashif Khan

Yes, for sure. Yes, and just listening to you was the first aha moment where I even realized that that happened. That is cool.

Danica Patrick

We really, I mean, when we talk, there is a lot of, Oh, yeah. One of the points of conversation that I have been having today with some of the podcasts I have been recording is on ancestral memory and soul families and how we assume that the universe is fractal and that our reality is a fractal nature reality. I have a mom, and dad, and a sister, and that is my reality here in this dimension, in this experience. But on another fractal level, the soul family is now a hundred people or a thousand people, or a hundred thousand people spread out over whatever it is that familial consciousness and patterning are now spread out over a bunch of people. After the conversations today, we got along and kind of had so many like, Oh, yes, thanks, I was just thinking about that, I was just thinking about you, then you texted me. Obviously, there is some higher orchestration awareness going on that we are becoming more aware of.

Kashif Khan

For sure. Yes. What do you think of this world that you have now? Did this happen while racing? Did this happen in folds? Is this like a shift in thinking? I wonder when did you start thinking this way.

Danica Patrick

I mean, I have to say that racing is my public platform; it is what I think has helped me have a voice for all these other things that I am doing now that perhaps could do even more good. But I have been interested in esoteric things since I was a kid, before I ever knew what the word esoteric meant. I mean, I was doing astrology readings and buying “Linda Goodman’s Love Signs” books and trying to see who I was compatible with. I have always been curious about that, or ghosts, as I would call them, or other energies looking up to the stars at night and thinking, What is up there? And it goes on forever, but there has got to be an end. It is an unfathomable thought to think that there is no end to something. I just remember having those thoughts, and I have always been really curious about all that stuff. But I was very narrowly focused for a long time; I had to be, naturally was. I do not know if we were all super wildly focused when we were five, ten, 15, 20, or 25, but for me, I was, and I was super focused on racing and that path, and it earned me this platform. I am super grateful for it, and I look back and have no problem; it is not like I took a lot of time doing that; No, it was all totally just a chapter of my life, and now I am in a new one. 

I am grateful for that one, and I am really grateful for this one. But I would say that the deeper dive into more spiritual and metaphysical research and learning for me probably started around 2015. My girlfriends and I took a trip to Sedona. We went up there to just have a girls’ trip. It was like four days. We were going to go hiking, take a vortex tour, and whatever else. We just drank a bunch of wine. We drank tons of wine, ate good food, cooked at home, and hung out and connected. Because I lived in Arizona forever, I moved to North Carolina for five years. When I moved, it was a way for us girls to still spend time together. It was on that trip in 2015 that it really just was like, we just started getting in the magic of it, like taking a photo and having lens flares, but we were like, look at the orbs in the photos, they are like entities here, and we were on a vortex tour and we were like, this is Katsina and the male and female side, and we were walking a labyrinth and we were journaling, and it just was one of those trips where we were all just really in the magic of it. That was kind of the start of it. Then I had a really pivotal thing happen in 17 and about two years later in Mexico, where I had a very out-of-body experience on the beach with this dog, and this experience, I never told the story.

Kashif Khan

Wow. Was it alcohol related or just?

Danica Patrick

No, sober. I have had others that are not sober since then. But yes. My girlfriend and I went to Tulum for a week, and there was this dog right away when I got down there. I love dogs more than people. There is this dog. I named the dog the first day, it was Lucy. Every time I wanted to see this dog, which was a lot, she was never there, and then if I let go, like really let go, not the whole like, Oh, whatever, I am sure she is around, then you are like, it was one of those where I was like, it is okay, like, I am sure she is fine, I am sure she is, and you just move on, all of a sudden she just appears like, Oh, there she is, it was like this energetic game that the universe was showing me.

Then we went to Coba to the Mayan temple there, the big Mayan temple, the Mayan pyramid. We were walking around all in there because it is a very large area, and there were these three stray dogs that were following us around, and I said, I am pretty sure I was a stray dog in another life. I said, because, well, number one, anybody that knows me knows that I always have food around; I do not waste food; I eat a lot. I am one of those people, and I am like, I think that is why I probably always need food around and eat because I was probably starved as a stray dog one life ago or a couple of lives ago. Then I said this random comment, where I said, I think Lucy is me, and I just said that. I think Lucy is me; the energy of it just felt like that dog is me. Then the next day we went to this yoga class that was three and a half hours long, and we came to find out later on that the guy that did the class set the qi field. We were in the class, and I told him later on in the serendipitous moment where I ended up renting his house in Tulum four years later, and he said, “Oh yeah, tell him for the reservation; it is under Rafael Shaman,” and I was like, Whoa, wait, what? I was like, “Did you used to teach a yoga shala?” And he was like, “Yeah. I am like, Whoa, I have a story for you. Anyway, he set the qi field; it is like the air was hazy, and he is like, Oh wow, you noticed that.

Then we went and got a chakra balancing massage, and then we went and got some lunch, and we thought, okay, man, it is time to hit the beach; let us go to a new spot on the beach instead of that same bed that we have been in every day, and I went down the beach; she was on the phone with her husband, and I am walking; I end up with the same bed because there is no sun anywhere else anyway, and I sat down, I plopped down, and as soon as I sat down, the dog jumped up next to me, and all of a sudden I was transported. I do not know; it was consciousness transportation. It was like I could not see anything anymore. It was as if there was a light, and it was as if the energy was moving in an upward trajectory up from myself over the ocean towards the sky, and the information in this space was that you are always loved no matter what; that is all there is, and that no matter how far you go, no matter how long you have been away, or what you do, meaning if you have never been spiritual or religious or you depart for a while and come back, all of that, whatever it means to believe that there is something bigger than yourself, it is all okay. We do not even need to forgive you because we never judged you in the first place. That is real love; that is how pure the love is, and all of this information comes in, and I just come to, and this dog is sitting there, and I just sit there and I just bawl. 

Anybody that knows me knows that I am not a really emotional person. I am not a really sensitive and empathetic person; I am highly conscientious, thank God. I have learned that through studying this because I am like, I care about people, but I do not cry that often, and I am not like, I do not see a baby and go, Oh, or someone gets sick, and I am not like, Oh my God, I just do not take on their feelings; I am not putting myself in their position, but I am conscientious. People that know me know that I am not just going to sit on the couch and cry, and I did for like 45 minutes, just bawl streaming tears. My friend came down finally, and she was like, Are you okay? I just started bawling again. It is okay; it is Lucy; it is my soul; it is like the dog. That was my very esoteric, very transcendental experience. That is the biggest one I have ever had, other than the learnings that I have had on plant medicine and the experiences in those spaces. But other than that, from a sober perspective, like you sat out on the beach and just boomed like I was given that information, it was so profound, simple, and big.

Kashif Khan

I think for everyone that is listening, now we are going from a fibromyalgia talk to a breast cancer talk to a migraine talk to hearing this. Wow, this is incredible. But how does this relate to me getting healthy? What people need to know is that health is not just, I am not sick. Health is not just I have the energy or I feel great. That is all body, but there is also mind and spirit, and this body is just transporting our spirit realm. The spirit is who you really are. The health of that we do not practice for the most part, but some people do; there are some religious people, some people that meditate, some people that go on retreats and smoke something, like a fog or whatever, where for the most part we do not even think of that as health. What you are demonstrating is a high level of spiritual health in that you are able to connect and do things that other people do not even think seem like, well, that is not even possible.

Danica Patrick

Well, I mean, spiritual growth is not always easy, for sure, and this has been a conversation I have been having today, but which is like why, why say yes to this? And that is because the body follows the mind, number one. But when you are processing ancestral wounds and patterns, I mean, think about the dysregulation that the body experiences. The body is an expression of when it’s diseased, dysregulated, or in disharmony. What it expresses is just to say that some pattern that you have going on is not working. As a physical example of that, if I have a pattern that I am not saying yes to seeing, my body will eventually, my stomach will be in knots, and I am like, What is wrong with me? Something is wrong, and for me, it is always in my stomach. For someone else, it might be in some other part of the body for someone else but for me, that is where it comes up. Then, at some point in time, within a few days, finally my mind becomes aware of it, and it is an emotional release. There is some crying that goes on, and there is something I have to realize. This has happened probably three or four times in my life, and again, not a crier, not out of the middle of nowhere, do not just do that, and it is because the body is informing you of something that you need to know. If you are not going to respect your body for the messages it is giving you, you cannot just take Xanax every day for the rest of your life. You are going to have to deal with the anxiety. You are going to have to deal with whatever it is you are not saying yes to, wanting to see, or getting out of your reality in your pattern. This spirituality is just like a smoke signal of that; it is like it is just part of the whole experience. I think that it is getting more in tune with yourself so that you can understand that there is something that needs to be unpacked. We are learning so much these days with epigenetics, how the body really works, your work with DNA, and just how crazy amount of information DNA can hold, how much is dormant, and how much is gut. There is just so much information that we are figuring out. I think I feel spirituality is really a code, for we do not get it yet, and the sciences have proven it.

Kashif Khan

The way you describe the way you felt is interesting because it just once again speaks to a spiritual experience, which starts in your gut, then it kind of goes to your brain, and then there is an emotional release. Our neural network: we only think of our brain as a thinking tool, but our stomachs and hearts are also brains; they are neural. There are 40,000,000 neural cells in your heart; it has its own brain; you can take it up and it just keeps pumping; it can think on its own; and your gut is the same. Often, when you are connected and you are thinking beyond today’s consciousness, what I see and hear right now and you are thinking, call it in a field or beyond quantum, it is your gut and your heart that is doing the thinking. That you feel that knot in your gut, that is your brain in your gut doing the thinking, and it is conflicting with your conscious thoughts here, where you are trying to override, but you cannot override because this is more powerful. The emotional release is that you finally started thinking with the tool that actually connects to the field, which is your heart. We know that when we think, we put out into our magnetic field to our brain, but what comes from here is far more powerful. Those truly were, those three big aha moments for you were true connection moments, like a high level of, I am connected right now. Because your heart was literally thinking and screaming, and that level of emotion made you cry. I have seen your DNA, and I know you are not a crier.

Danica Patrick

Yeah, totally.

Kashif Khan

The way your brain works, which also speaks to why you did so well in your career, is just something you feel it, you get it, but it is not a tool you use. It is like, I get it; I know what that feels like; I understand the pain, but I am okay; I am going to just think about it, I will move on. To get to that level, that is how hard you are or how far your heart was pushed. I hope to experience that one day; it would be an incredible moment for us. It goes back to this level of health that you have to experience spiritually to truly be healthy; it is not just about your body and what you can measure in your blood; that is one level; that is where you are today; there is so much more. You did actually have a, call it a health scare, a body scare that you dealt with, and I do not know when this happened; it was a few years ago, but you got, call it a whole cornucopia of problems which you identified as being related to your implants. 

Danica Patrick

Yes, breast implants.

Kashif Khan

Yes. Then you decided you were one of the earlier people to do that. Now you see it all over the place. People recognize this as a problem. But even three or four years ago, it was still hard to do research.

Danica Patrick

Well, I mean, I got them out a year ago; actually, it was just a year ago. Yes. It was the end of April. It was just over a year ago, on April 22. I had them for seven and a half years. But it is, I mean, it makes some pretty logical sense that the body would be trying to find a way to tell you, We have an intruder; we have two intruders. We are trying to quarantine the problem with scar tissue. We keep making scar tissue because I had a level three out of four capsular contracture. The implants were actually folded inside of the capsule. Still, up to today, I have a mimic pantry. They have the crease in them still from being in that position for years. The body is going. We were going to keep making scar tissue because there is something we do not like here. But eventually, the thing about the body is it is crazy how resilient and self-healing it can be. When I got them out finally like hours later, my body already started to move towards homeostasis; my skin started producing natural oils again; I started flushing the waterway; and all kinds of things started to happen that were good, and energy levels came up immediately. I mean, the morning after I had the surgery in the afternoon and by seven o’clock in the morning, I was up the next morning, and I think it took 12 hours of real pain pills, 12 hours of Tylenol, and that is it, and I woke up in the morning, and I was walking around the kitchen. I am like, Mom, we got to go grocery shopping; we need some stuff around here, and we got in the car, went to the grocery store, and I have got my bags underneath. I put a big jacket on, and it was no big deal. Mom and I drank maybe that night. The next night, two nights later, mom and I had split a bottle of wine and played Monopoly together. 

The body really wants to go to homeostasis; it is just what is blocking it, whether it is spiritually, emotionally, or physically, what is blocking it. The implants were definitely blocking my body from it. My expressions were endocrine disruptors. All my hormones had been very suppressed, like an adrenal drought. Cortisol and my circadian rhythm were backward. I was having a cortisol spike in the middle of the night, and then it was going down from there. I would wake up, and it would not go up like normal; it was completely flip-flopped. My hair loss is finally starting to get longer again. I had super long dark hair for my whole life, and it just started getting less healthy, which is kind of why I cut it short at one point because I was like, It is just not the same; maybe it is just getting older or something, and really it was from the implants. Hair loss and thyroid dysfunction, that is the last one; I still have not gotten that back yet. My thyroid function is still below the low level, but for the most part, I have gut issues, leaky gut, and dysbiosis. I had all the biological operational problems. Then some people with BII have mood disruption, depression, anxiety, and lethargy like crazy; they are super tired and cannot get out of bed. I did not have that stuff. But yeah, it has been a journey.

Kashif Khan

I cannot believe that they let you keep the capsule. Because normally it is considered a medical device. I do not know if that should be.

Danica Patrick

Although I do not have the capsule, I have the implants.

Kashif Khan

Okay. Even that you got away with something there. Yes. It is a medical device that technically is meant to be. Anyways, I am not sure if we should publish this part but let us see what happens.

Danica Patrick

Let us take them if I can open them up and see what is in there and let us do some research.

Kashif Khan

Yes.

Danica Patrick

Let us do some medicine. They do not want you to know what is inside of it. You have to dig deep to understand that there is, Oh, I had heavy metal poisoning too. Lots of heavy metals, and molds I have found too, anyway.

Kashif Khan

It could set things up with heavy metals and mold. There is also this: when your body is struggling so much with the implant, the mold that you would have been able to clear and tolerate you no longer can. Certain buckets you can fill, and after that, you are done with everything; everything becomes a problem. There are detox processes that are going on day and night, but if you are already overloading them, that is why this BII, the symptomatology is hard to put your finger on as a little bit of everything because you are already pushing yourself to heal. You just need a catalyst to get you over the edge, and you start to feel everything, the things you normally are able to deal with. In Canada, there was a study that was done on the textured implants, and the response was, Well, just get rid of those ones. They blamed it on one particular type of implant, and the response was, We will ban those, but everything else is still allowed. The reason I point that out is for women to know that nobody is out there to protect you when it comes to this issue. Go do the work and figure it out, whether it is understanding your genetics, whether it is looking at how you feel and paying a little closer attention, whether it be for making the decision to get implants, thinking about your health, and are you already teetering in a problematic area. Well, you probably do not want to add another trigger of that magnitude, which is a much bigger consideration than just the aesthetic first. It is a real thing; you really felt the way you felt, and you really felt a lot better after you took them out.

Danica Patrick

Yes. It is such a slip, but it is not a sudden thing. Some people really do have sudden things happen with them but they always just seem to be written off to something, I am getting older or I have been doing that. Like my right shoulder, I could not put it behind my back because it would hurt so bad in the joint. This is why I raced, and I thought it was because I was driving, but that went away. After I was done, it still hurt for a while, but then I finally got the implants out and it went away. Such random things that you could just write off to something else, but your intuition knows the answer. I think we have talked about some, and in my opinion, everyone will have some level of a side effect from it.

Kashif Khan

Yes.

Danica Patrick

Some. It might not be worth, it might not be worth not having them for some people but you are going to have to pay the price to some degree.

Kashif Khan

Yes, and you may not know it. It is even scary for the person that does not know. Because it is that slow, toxic insult that is causing inflammation and making you sick until it turns into something much worse. It is almost a blessing that you had a visceral response when you knew how to get rid of that stuff. Because, like you said, it is not good for anybody, but how fast is it going to hit you depends on how well your body fights that.

Danica Patrick

Yes. On top of that, because on top of the implants I was racing and super stressed out, I was transitioning through long-term relationships, retirement, relationships that were good for me, I had emotional, and on top of it, I worked out way too much, I worked out once or twice a day for a long time, once a day for sure. But my training was not easy either, it was CrossFit, hit workouts. It was not like I go do 20 minutes a hit and think, Done. I would do an hour. I have done 20 minutes of work; now let us do another 20 minutes of something. I worked my body way too hard. When I say a little bit ago that I really tapped myself physically and mentally, emotionally, like the whole thing, and environmentally, I did.

Kashif Khan

Yes. This is a common misconception that more is more, but it is not always with a lot of stuff that we do. More and more, we are learning that overexercising is dangerous. How many professional athletes do you see that live to 100?

Danica Patrick

Yes, really. On top of that, I mean, not eating enough carbohydrates as a woman.

Kashif Khan

Yes.

Danica Patrick

That really helped just. Yes, we get into these trends. But yes, athletes push themselves very hard physically, emotionally, and mentally.

Kashif Khan

Yes. It is not sustainable in terms of longevity. The tools for longevity are more, yes, they fit, but the high intensity is not what we were designed for the most part, and you, again, exposing your genetics a little bit.

Danica Patrick

Yes. Go ahead, I do not care, surely.

Kashif Khan

There is some mitochondrial dysfunction there, which is also why the BII hits you so fast because your body struggles with recovery. You are doing this thing, this highly oxidative load of high-intensity exercise and you did not have the recovery capacity because your mitochondria struggled with that. That eventually would lead to something like cardiovascular disease, the thing that you think is actually helping your heart but probably killing it slowly because your body’s response to that level of inflammation and this is cholesterol. Cholesterol meets that oxidation, which causes it to harden, and that is where you get those buildups in your arteries, and then you get the disease.

Danica Patrick

Well, I have been taking some mitochondrial medicine since we learned that, so hopefully.

Kashif Khan

Yes. You will do better. We know you are doing everything right now. You will feel amazing. With all of what you are doing now, racing is all over; you are now finding a new, not necessarily new but you are evolving down this journey of the esoteric and the spiritual, diving deep into who you really are. What does the rest of your life look like?

Danica Patrick

Well, when people ask what I do now, I am like, Well, I have two wines, I have a podcast, I do speaking engagements, I do race broadcasting, I do stuff for Formula 1, NASCAR, and IndyCar, and I take a lot more vacations. I always finish with that because I do. I 100%, do not look at my vacations like, Oh, I just scrapped that. No, those are non-negotiable, and that is what I am doing. Now, I will say that I have kind of returned back to finally getting into a real full work rhythm with everything. I am more busy than I should be, to the point where I am really getting tired. The good thing is that instead of thinking, Oh, cool, no big deal, I am, No, I’ve got to be careful. You really need to be careful. I need to be careful how hard I push myself because if I am going to still want to work out, I am still going to be doing me if I am going to be working and doing all the things that I like to do through travel, whether it be vacation or not. Travel is still exhausting, and on top of that, doing podcasts and the mental energy that it takes to do that, if I am going to go to the well on all my buckets, I got to be careful how long I do that for because I know that my body is just going to go like this and it is going to say, We are not going to operate the way that you want it to because right now there is not enough there, which we got to send you a signal. For me, that usually looks more like water retention, like I hold a lot more when I have too much going on and stress, probably through my skin and hair, and my physical manifestation is pretty obvious when I am doing too much.

Kashif Khan

I think that leads to something that you said where there is wisdom in what you choose. You said there is a difference between quitting something and letting go. We think we are quitting, and maybe that is why we do not let go, and there is a sense of weakness. Can you explain that?

Danica Patrick

Yes. Well, it was when I retired, and I was just in that decision process. I basically did not just say, I am done. I was like, Well, okay, I am okay with that, but I am okay with continuing too. Let us see how that looks to just stay the course and see what sponsors come along and what teams, and let us just play it out. We will see what comes through, and if it is easy and the path presents itself, no problem; let us go. If it does not, then I will just know that that means it is time. I let the unfolding, the flow, and the process show me the way, which was more about letting go. Letting go of what I thought was best for me and giving in to how my path would unfold if I was not forcing something. That, for me, was learning the difference between quitting and letting go or holding on and forcing. It is the holding on and forcing that we do through our patterns, or through our job, or a relationship, or whatever, that will only get increasingly more difficult because it is not in resonance. Those are the things to try and become aware of, like how much are you pushing, how much are you forcing, and how much discomfort are you willing to put up with before you finally go. Maybe this is not for me anymore.

Kashif Khan

Yes. I think there is a cultural thing of you have to keep pushing, this American dream culture, and not trying as a weakness and somebody around the corner is doing a better job than you. But to what end? What is your intention? What is your goal? That is one thing, but what is the path in getting there? Which is the majority of your time? Are you enjoying that or is it valuable? Does every day feel like, if every day was your life, did that seem like a life worth living? Was that day useful or was it just a slave to the goals?

Danica Patrick

You are right, and when you are in the flow, it feels like, I am all about, I had a saying for quite a few years; trying harder was my saying, and all my friends would laugh about it and use it sometimes. But the best stuff really comes easily and quickly. I do not know if you have any stories regarding this. But for me, all the stuff that I feel is in alignment and has been really successful and positive has all unfolded really easily. Now, I cannot remember the racing part of that; I was ten, but with businesses or even naming a business, I mean, shoot, even on a vacation I just went on, it was Sunday and there was only one direct flight home from Cabo at one o’clock and you got to have a relaxing morning, but not a full day, and I was like, man, I would just really wish there was like a four or five o’clock flight home direct, that would be so nice, and on the way to the airport there was an email that says you are delay, I got delayed, and I was like, turn the car around, let us go back, let us play golf. Stuff like that.

Kashif Khan

Your manifesting ruined everybody else’s day but it made it work for you.

Danica Patrick

Exactly. I mean, I could not have done that myself, I could not have gotten American Airlines to delay the flight by four hours and 10 minutes, I could not. That is the kind of stuff where I feel like when you are in the flow, the universe just sends you on your path so quickly in such a way that you could never imagine. You could not even do it, let alone imagine it.

Kashif Khan

Yes. I think everybody that has done anything of significance has a story like that. Because when there is a big purpose to what you are doing, I am not saying that your purpose of golfing for the day was.

Danica Patrick

More of a micro example of being in the flow on a macro level, meaning whatever I am doing, I am in resonance with the universe. There is not a lot of separation between me and this manifestation capability because I am right there in the flow. The universe is like, Yeah, we hear you loud and clear; you are not 50 leagues under the sea with a bunch of b*llsh*t that you should be dealing with; we hear you really clearly.

Kashif Khan

Yes. Then that goes back to that spiritual connection you have here interwoven with the fabric as opposed to completely separated, which a lot of people are, and that is key. Whoever is listening today learns one thing: if you talk to anyone about health, there is just one-third of what you need to be practicing that nobody talks about. It is your spirit that is one-third of the mind, body, and spirit. If you are not doing it, if you would not have experiences like what we were talking about, and if you want your flights delayed with purpose, then the big stuff has to be done with purpose. Everything you do and every choice you make is a step towards something good or something bad; either you are taking a bite of something that leads to health or away from health. If you are constantly purposely doing the right thing for people and yourself, it is very easy for the universe to start giving you back, and that is where you are at. That is the greatest inspiration we could have hoped for. Thank you.

Danica Patrick

You are welcome. I am figuring a lot out. In fact, the older I get, the more I do not understand I feel like. The more I learn, the more my bubble expands. There is so much I do not get. But ultimately, I feel like sometimes spirituality can become something where some people are like, “Whatever.” It is like, Look, I am not doing it just because I want to be cool like a hippie; I want to be a spiritual person. I want to know how to have the happiest, most joyful, and most peaceful life possible. For me, exploring spirituality, consciousness, quantum physics, genetics, epigenetics, and all these things is a way to help me understand how I am going to do that. Because beyond believing, when you just know something, there is a big difference. Let us just say I knew I could fly; I really think I could. We were just energy; we were just like these little tornadoes, the energy just at this density level, and why not? But I do not even believe that. But that is a big example. But if I know that I can make the best damn dinner you have ever, a steak will be perfect, and I can make, if I know I just know it, I am going to deliver, or if I just know that this product is going to succeed, I just know it like I know the world needs it, I know it will be good for everybody, and I just believe in it. No matter what obstacles you come across, there are lots of success stories in business. I remember interviewing John Paul DeJoria from Patrón and Paul Mitchell, and for all of his products, he had to shop and shop, and it took a while for someone to finally like the right company to sell it for it to take off, and when it did, it was huge, but it did not mean it was successful from the first person that took it on. When you just know something, I think that it can really lead your life in beautiful ways. By doing all this exploration, research, interviewing, and things like that, I get to this place where I hear something and it hits, and then I can kind of come to know what I am capable of. If I know that I can manifest my entire life, if I can get to that point where I know every thought and every action and everything is all going to create, even though I kind of like think it in my head, it does that, I knew that, like, how could I have a bad life at all? Isn’t that the point, how to be happier? I am trying to figure out how to do that.

Kashif Khan

Yes. That is cool. For anyone that is inspired, I would suggest they spend some time with your podcast. Because when I go look at and listen to your podcast, it is kind of like you out there. This is how Danica has been built in the last few years; it is the stuff you believe in, and you have very high integrity in terms of what you even want to talk about; it is truly what you take an interest in. If anyone wants to understand how to feel like this and how to live like this, I would recommend the podcast because there is some amazing stuff on there.

Danica Patrick

Thank you.

Kashif Khan

Yes. Thank you for joining us. This is awesome.

Danica Patrick

You are welcome. Thank you. Thank you for being such a good friend, and thank you for helping. I am so glad the universe had Dave Aspery set me up with you. Because he knew that you were researching BII and it is actually BII that connected us and then we have kind of webbed out from there to the point where working with Mindy on this and having this.

Kashif Khan

You are here.

Danica Patrick

I was working with Mindy, and then I was like, Hey, I need to have one doctor, and you have a lot of great ideas to cast off, but can you talk to my one doctor? Because I used to have like four at the same time, and I’m really going to have a point person these days because I do too much, and then you guys connected, and the web kept going.

Kashif Khan

We will keep doing more.

Danica Patrick

The soul family.

Kashif Khan

Right, the soul family. The tree keeps growing. Thank you so much again. Thank you for your time. This is awesome. It is exactly what it was meant to be an inspiration. Thank you.

Danica Patrick

You are welcome. Good work.