Full Transcript Estriol vs. Estradiol on Skin 0:02 I don't particularly like estradiol E2 0:02 I don't particularly like estradiol E2 on the skin, especially on the face, as 0:04 on the skin, especially on the face, as 0:04 on the skin, especially on the face, as I feel like it goes more into the 0:06 I feel like it goes more into the 0:06 I feel like it goes more into the bloodstream and that can skew your own 0:08 bloodstream and that can skew your own 0:08 bloodstream and that can skew your own HRT or actually raise your um serum 0:12 HRT or actually raise your um serum 0:12 HRT or actually raise your um serum levels of estradiol in your blood.
Introducing Estriol and Its Benefits 0:20 Estriol cream for your face. Hi, I'm Dr. 0:20 Estriol cream for your face. Hi, I'm Dr. Valerie Davidson from the Progress Your 0:21 Valerie Davidson from the Progress Your 0:21 Valerie Davidson from the Progress Your Health podcast. 0:22 Health podcast. 0:22 Health podcast. >> And I'm Dr. Mackey from the Progress 0:24 >> And I'm Dr. Mackey from the Progress 0:24 >> And I'm Dr. Mackey from the Progress Your Health podcast. Uh so this one 0:26 Your Health podcast. Uh so this one 0:26 Your Health podcast. Uh so this one we're going to dive right in. We're 0:26 we're going to dive right in. We're 0:27 we're going to dive right in. We're going to talk about, as you mentioned, 0:28 going to talk about, as you mentioned, 0:28 going to talk about, as you mentioned, estriol. 0:29 estriol. 0:29 estriol. Um we've been using estriol for 20 0:32 Um we've been using estriol for 20 0:32 Um we've been using estriol for 20 years. So, um why why do you like 0:35 years. So, um why why do you like 0:35 years. So, um why why do you like estriol? 0:36 estriol? 0:36 estriol? >> Well, estriol So, there's three 0:37 >> Well, estriol So, there's three 0:37 >> Well, estriol So, there's three different estrogens. There's estrone E1, 0:39 different estrogens. There's estrone E1, 0:39 different estrogens. There's estrone E1, estradiol E2, and then estriol E3. And 0:42 estradiol E2, and then estriol E3. And 0:42 estradiol E2, and then estriol E3. And estriol is very gentle, but it's really 0:44 estriol is very gentle, but it's really 0:44 estriol is very gentle, but it's really good for the face and for the skin. 0:46 good for the face and for the skin. 0:46 good for the face and for the skin. Also, vaginal tissues, which we'll do 0:48 Also, vaginal tissues, which we'll do 0:48 Also, vaginal tissues, which we'll do another podcast on that. But, it's 0:50 another podcast on that. But, it's 0:50 another podcast on that. But, it's really nice to help with fine lines and 0:52 really nice to help with fine lines and 0:52 really nice to help with fine lines and it helps with plumping. It helps keep 0:53 it helps with plumping. It helps keep 0:53 it helps with plumping. It helps keep that lipid um that lipid membrane on the 0:56 that lipid um that lipid membrane on the 0:56 that lipid um that lipid membrane on the skin really nice and intact and also 0:58 skin really nice and intact and also 0:58 skin really nice and intact and also helps um the collagen start to fill in. 1:00 helps um the collagen start to fill in. 1:00 helps um the collagen start to fill in. >> Yeah, um I mean
Why Estriol Is Preferred for Facial Use 1:03 >> Yeah, um I mean 1:03 >> Yeah, um I mean women don't really like the 1:05 women don't really like the 1:05 women don't really like the the changes that happen um to the skin 1:08 the changes that happen um to the skin 1:08 the changes that happen um to the skin as time goes uh forward, but estrogen 1:10 as time goes uh forward, but estrogen 1:11 as time goes uh forward, but estrogen just in general has a plays a big role 1:13 just in general has a plays a big role 1:13 just in general has a plays a big role there. 1:13 there. 1:13 there. >> Absolutely. I mean, it's funny. I I'll 1:15 >> Absolutely. I mean, it's funny. I I'll 1:16 >> Absolutely. I mean, it's funny. I I'll tell women, you know, I'll um or 1:17 tell women, you know, I'll um or 1:17 tell women, you know, I'll um or patients, you know, I'll prescribe it 1:19 patients, you know, I'll prescribe it 1:19 patients, you know, I'll prescribe it for them and they'll say, "Oh, I wish I 1:20 for them and they'll say, "Oh, I wish I 1:20 for them and they'll say, "Oh, I wish I could just put my whole body in it." Cuz 1:22 could just put my whole body in it." Cuz 1:23 could just put my whole body in it." Cuz it it But, it is really nice for the 1:24 it it But, it is really nice for the 1:24 it it But, it is really nice for the face. I've been using it. I have 1:26 face. I've been using it. I have 1:26 face. I've been using it. I have patients that I've been having patients 1:27 patients that I've been having patients 1:27 patients that I've been having patients use it. There's different ways to do it 1:29 use it. There's different ways to do it 1:29 use it. There's different ways to do it and I know that there's some uh 1:31 and I know that there's some uh 1:31 and I know that there's some uh moisturizers out there that have estriol 1:33 moisturizers out there that have estriol 1:33 moisturizers out there that have estriol in there. You can get that as a 1:34 in there. You can get that as a 1:34 in there. You can get that as a prescription. 1:35 prescription. 1:35 prescription. I like it in a way where you get the 1:37 I like it in a way where you get the 1:37 I like it in a way where you get the estriol. For example, I brought a little 1:39 estriol. For example, I brought a little 1:39 estriol. For example, I brought a little prop here. This is my estriol cream in a 1:41 prop here. This is my estriol cream in a 1:41 prop here. This is my estriol cream in a Toppik lid container. So, the estriol I 1:43 Toppik lid container. So, the estriol I 1:43 Toppik lid container. So, the estriol I like it just on its own cuz every 1:45 like it just on its own cuz every 1:45 like it just on its own cuz every woman's a little different. Some women 1:47 woman's a little different. Some women 1:47 woman's a little different. Some women um you know, they like their own you 1:49 um you know, they like their own you 1:49 um you know, they like their own you know, their own products. So, if they're 1:51 know, their own products. So, if they're 1:51 know, their own products. So, if they're buying a moisturizer, they're like, 1:53 buying a moisturizer, they're like, 1:53 buying a moisturizer, they're like, "But, I like my other moisturizer." So, 1:55 "But, I like my other moisturizer." So, 1:55 "But, I like my other moisturizer." So, a lot of times I'll do it as, you know, 1:56 a lot of times I'll do it as, you know, 1:56 a lot of times I'll do it as, you know, as is here, and then you can put it on 1:58 as is here, and then you can put it on 1:58 as is here, and then you can put it on and then put your own facial products 2:00 and then put your own facial products 2:00 and then put your own facial products over the top of it. 2:01 over the top of it. 2:01 over the top of it. >> Right. Uh so, uh 2:03 >> Right. Uh so, uh 2:03 >> Right. Uh so, uh um of course, you're using it as a way 2:06 um of course, you're using it as a way 2:06 um of course, you're using it as a way to minimize wrinkles and things like 2:07 to minimize wrinkles and things like 2:07 to minimize wrinkles and things like that. So, um what's the background 2:09 that. So, um what's the background 2:09 that. So, um what's the background there? What is the estradiol actually 2:11 there? What is the estradiol actually 2:11 there? What is the estradiol actually are the estriol actually doing?
How to Apply Estriol Cream 2:13 are the estriol actually doing? 2:13 are the estriol actually doing? >> Yeah, so it definitely helps with the 2:14 >> Yeah, so it definitely helps with the 2:14 >> Yeah, so it definitely helps with the collagen, so it helps with the collagen 2:16 collagen, so it helps with the collagen 2:16 collagen, so it helps with the collagen fill-in, but it doesn't go into the 2:19 fill-in, but it doesn't go into the 2:19 fill-in, but it doesn't go into the bloodstream. So, that's why I don't 2:21 bloodstream. So, that's why I don't 2:21 bloodstream. So, that's why I don't particularly like estradiol E2 on the 2:23 particularly like estradiol E2 on the 2:23 particularly like estradiol E2 on the skin, especially on the face, is I feel 2:26 skin, especially on the face, is I feel 2:26 skin, especially on the face, is I feel like it goes more into the bloodstream 2:28 like it goes more into the bloodstream 2:28 like it goes more into the bloodstream and that can skew your own HRT or 2:30 and that can skew your own HRT or 2:30 and that can skew your own HRT or actually raise your um serum levels of 2:33 actually raise your um serum levels of 2:33 actually raise your um serum levels of estradiol in your blood. But, I do like 2:36 estradiol in your blood. But, I do like 2:36 estradiol in your blood. But, I do like it as estriol cuz it's not going to skew 2:38 it as estriol cuz it's not going to skew 2:38 it as estriol cuz it's not going to skew with that. And just because I'm kind of 2:40 with that. And just because I'm kind of 2:40 with that. And just because I'm kind of a spotty girl, I you know, I have a 2:41 a spotty girl, I you know, I have a 2:41 a spotty girl, I you know, I have a little skin hyperpigmentation, is I 2:43 little skin hyperpigmentation, is I 2:43 little skin hyperpigmentation, is I always worry about putting that 2:45 always worry about putting that 2:45 always worry about putting that estradiol on my face and then going out 2:47 estradiol on my face and then going out 2:47 estradiol on my face and then going out in the sun. So, I don't know if that's 2:48 in the sun. So, I don't know if that's 2:48 in the sun. So, I don't know if that's just my own little thing. I like it as 2:50 just my own little thing. I like it as 2:50 just my own little thing. I like it as the estriol. Like I was saying, you want 2:52 the estriol. Like I was saying, you want 2:52 the estriol. Like I was saying, you want it to be you want to have a good dose of 2:54 it to be you want to have a good dose of 2:54 it to be you want to have a good dose of it. Like you don't want just a tiny 2:56 it. Like you don't want just a tiny 2:56 it. Like you don't want just a tiny little bit of estriol on your face. You 2:57 little bit of estriol on your face. You 2:57 little bit of estriol on your face. You want a a a good dose. So, usually now 3:00 want a a a good dose. So, usually now 3:00 want a a a good dose. So, usually now this is for What is this? Um for 3:02 this is for What is this? Um for 3:02 this is for What is this? Um for education, not for medical advice. But, 3:04 education, not for medical advice. But, 3:05 education, not for medical advice. But, typically I'll go anywhere between like 3:07 typically I'll go anywhere between like 3:07 typically I'll go anywhere between like 2 mg even up to 4 mg of 3:10 2 mg even up to 4 mg of 3:10 2 mg even up to 4 mg of estra um estriol. And I 3:12 estra um estriol. And I 3:12 estra um estriol. And I I you don't have to apply it twice a day 3:14 I you don't have to apply it twice a day 3:14 I you don't have to apply it twice a day like you would your maybe your biased 3:16 like you would your maybe your biased 3:16 like you would your maybe your biased cream or your estradiol transdermal 3:18 cream or your estradiol transdermal 3:18 cream or your estradiol transdermal cream. You can just apply it once a day, 3:20 cream. You can just apply it once a day, 3:20 cream. You can just apply it once a day, whether it's in the morning or in the 3:21 whether it's in the morning or in the 3:21 whether it's in the morning or in the evening.
Dosing, Packaging, and Practical Tips 3:22 evening. 3:22 evening. If you're going to use it before, you 3:24 If you're going to use it before, you 3:24 If you're going to use it before, you know, if you put serums on. I know some 3:26 know, if you put serums on. I know some 3:26 know, if you put serums on. I know some people like to use like vitamin C serum 3:27 people like to use like vitamin C serum 3:27 people like to use like vitamin C serum and put your serums on first and then 3:29 and put your serums on first and then 3:29 and put your serums on first and then you can put your estriol on afterwards. 3:32 you can put your estriol on afterwards. 3:32 you can put your estriol on afterwards. >> Uh and is there a reason of the of the 3:34 >> Uh and is there a reason of the of the 3:34 >> Uh and is there a reason of the of the order there? 3:35 order there? 3:35 order there? >> I think the um like vitamin C can break 3:37 >> I think the um like vitamin C can break 3:37 >> I think the um like vitamin C can break down really easy if you're doing a serum 3:39 down really easy if you're doing a serum 3:39 down really easy if you're doing a serum on that. So, so I always say yes, serums 3:41 on that. So, so I always say yes, serums 3:41 on that. So, so I always say yes, serums first, then do your estriol, and then 3:43 first, then do your estriol, and then 3:43 first, then do your estriol, and then you can put your moisturizer on top of 3:44 you can put your moisturizer on top of 3:44 you can put your moisturizer on top of it, then put your sunscreen on if that's 3:46 it, then put your sunscreen on if that's 3:46 it, then put your sunscreen on if that's the morning time or if the evening you 3:48 the morning time or if the evening you 3:48 the morning time or if the evening you could take In the evening it's just 3:50 could take In the evening it's just 3:50 could take In the evening it's just whatever works for you. Some people will 3:52 whatever works for you. Some people will 3:52 whatever works for you. Some people will take their estriol and mix it with their 3:53 take their estriol and mix it with their 3:53 take their estriol and mix it with their moisturizer and put it on that way. I 3:56 moisturizer and put it on that way. I 3:56 moisturizer and put it on that way. I tend to just take it, so you got your 3:57 tend to just take it, so you got your 3:57 tend to just take it, so you got your clicker here. So, this is 4 mg per gram. 4:00 clicker here. So, this is 4 mg per gram. 4:00 clicker here. So, this is 4 mg per gram. This is prescribed for me. And then I 4:02 This is prescribed for me. And then I 4:02 This is prescribed for me. And then I just do 1 2 and you can see that cream 4:04 just do 1 2 and you can see that cream 4:04 just do 1 2 and you can see that cream that comes out. I don't know how well 4:06 that comes out. I don't know how well 4:06 that comes out. I don't know how well you can see it cuz the top it clicks 4:07 you can see it cuz the top it clicks 4:07 you can see it cuz the top it clicks white. But there's you know good enough 4:09 white. But there's you know good enough 4:09 white. But there's you know good enough cream that you can put it, you know, you 4:10 cream that you can put it, you know, you 4:10 cream that you can put it, you know, you can get it all over the face there. And 4:12 can get it all over the face there. And 4:12 can get it all over the face there. And then you And then I put my moisturizer 4:14 then you And then I put my moisturizer 4:14 then you And then I put my moisturizer on top on top of that cuz I usually do 4:16 on top on top of that cuz I usually do 4:16 on top on top of that cuz I usually do this in the morning cuz by the night 4:17 this in the morning cuz by the night 4:17 this in the morning cuz by the night time I'm just so lazy. 4:19 time I'm just so lazy. 4:19 time I'm just so lazy. >> This is like wash my 4:19 >> This is like wash my 4:20 >> This is like wash my >> face, brush, floss, put on the night 4:21 >> face, brush, floss, put on the night 4:21 >> face, brush, floss, put on the night cream and then be done. So, usually I 4:23 cream and then be done. So, usually I 4:23 cream and then be done. So, usually I put this on in the morning and then I 4:24 put this on in the morning and then I 4:24 put this on in the morning and then I put my moisturizer on top and then and 4:26 put my moisturizer on top and then and 4:26 put my moisturizer on top and then and then maybe like I use like a tinted 4:28 then maybe like I use like a tinted 4:28 then maybe like I use like a tinted sunscreen and that's that's all I use. 4:31 sunscreen and that's that's all I use. 4:31 sunscreen and that's that's all I use. But I know everybody's a little bit 4:32 But I know everybody's a little bit 4:32 But I know everybody's a little bit different, but I wanted to kind of show 4:33 different, but I wanted to kind of show 4:34 different, but I wanted to kind of show the visual. Back in the day um before 4:37 the visual. Back in the day um before 4:37 the visual. Back in the day um before they had top it clicks this is a 100 4:39 they had top it clicks this is a 100 4:39 they had top it clicks this is a 100 years ago as you would get it more as 4:40 years ago as you would get it more as 4:40 years ago as you would get it more as like a little jar, but then, you know, 4:42 like a little jar, but then, you know, 4:42 like a little jar, but then, you know, putting your fingers in it was wasn't 4:44 putting your fingers in it was wasn't 4:44 putting your fingers in it was wasn't very um you know, hypergenic or was it 4:46 very um you know, hypergenic or was it 4:46 very um you know, hypergenic or was it hypoallergenic or it could get, you 4:48 hypoallergenic or it could get, you 4:48 hypoallergenic or it could get, you know, um 4:49 know, um 4:49 know, um I don't know, get your greasy fingers in 4:51 I don't know, get your greasy fingers in 4:51 I don't know, get your greasy fingers in there or something. 4:52 there or something. 4:52 there or something. But anyway, I love the top it click. I 4:53 But anyway, I love the top it click. I 4:53 But anyway, I love the top it click. I think the top it click is great. 4:55 think the top it click is great. 4:55 think the top it click is great. >> Yeah, makes it very easy 4:57 >> Yeah, makes it very easy 4:57 >> Yeah, makes it very easy uh to get a consistent amount um you 4:59 uh to get a consistent amount um you 4:59 uh to get a consistent amount um you know, you don't have to worry about 5:01 know, you don't have to worry about 5:01 know, you don't have to worry about getting any 5:02 getting any 5:02 getting any getting the estriol in anything else. Uh 5:04 getting the estriol in anything else. Uh 5:04 getting the estriol in anything else. Uh so, an obvious question then why do you 5:05 so, an obvious question then why do you 5:05 so, an obvious question then why do you why do you prefer estriol versus 5:08 why do you prefer estriol versus 5:08 why do you prefer estriol versus estradiol for the
Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts 5:09 estradiol for the 5:09 estradiol for the >> Like I said earlier is just cuz the 5:10 >> Like I said earlier is just cuz the 5:10 >> Like I said earlier is just cuz the estradiol it's going to go into the 5:12 estradiol it's going to go into the 5:12 estradiol it's going to go into the bloodstream. You know, you're going to 5:13 bloodstream. You know, you're going to 5:13 bloodstream. You know, you're going to have to worry about the dosage on there 5:15 have to worry about the dosage on there 5:15 have to worry about the dosage on there and it's going to go into that 5:16 and it's going to go into that 5:16 and it's going to go into that bloodstream. 5:16 bloodstream. 5:16 bloodstream. >> yeah, okay. So, nothing more than just 5:18 >> yeah, okay. So, nothing more than just 5:18 >> yeah, okay. So, nothing more than just that it's um just kind of add to your 5:20 that it's um just kind of add to your 5:20 that it's um just kind of add to your systemic amount that you're using. 5:22 systemic amount that you're using. 5:22 systemic amount that you're using. >> Exactly. Yeah, it's going to add And 5:24 >> Exactly. Yeah, it's going to add And 5:24 >> Exactly. Yeah, it's going to add And then like I said, I just 5:25 then like I said, I just 5:25 then like I said, I just don't just cuz I worry about 5:27 don't just cuz I worry about 5:27 don't just cuz I worry about hyperpigmentation or that kind of thing. 5:29 hyperpigmentation or that kind of thing. 5:29 hyperpigmentation or that kind of thing. Like I said, that's just me. I do like 5:31 Like I said, that's just me. I do like 5:31 Like I said, that's just me. I do like to put the estriol around the eyes. So, 5:34 to put the estriol around the eyes. So, 5:34 to put the estriol around the eyes. So, it's very nice for those fine lines 5:36 it's very nice for those fine lines 5:36 it's very nice for those fine lines around around the eyes and I feel like 5:38 around around the eyes and I feel like 5:38 around around the eyes and I feel like it kind of matriculates a bit that it's 5:41 it kind of matriculates a bit that it's 5:41 it kind of matriculates a bit that it's really good also um when we've talked 5:43 really good also um when we've talked 5:43 really good also um when we've talked about estradiol and and dry eye where 5:45 about estradiol and and dry eye where 5:45 about estradiol and and dry eye where you put that estriol around it. I think 5:47 you put that estriol around it. I think 5:47 you put that estriol around it. I think it adds an extra little bit of impact to 5:50 it adds an extra little bit of impact to 5:50 it adds an extra little bit of impact to help with dry eye as well. 5:51 help with dry eye as well. 5:51 help with dry eye as well. >> Sure. Yeah. 5:52 >> Sure. Yeah. 5:52 >> Sure. Yeah. >> I mean it's not 5:52 >> I mean it's not 5:52 >> I mean it's not 100% but you know, all these little you 5:55 100% but you know, all these little you 5:55 100% but you know, all these little you know, these little tidbits and nuances. 5:56 know, these little tidbits and nuances. 5:56 know, these little tidbits and nuances. >> getting the estriol in your eye but some 5:58 >> getting the estriol in your eye but some 5:58 >> getting the estriol in your eye but some of that stuff is just ends up, you know, 6:00 of that stuff is just ends up, you know, 6:00 of that stuff is just ends up, you know, kind of diffusing in into the the eye 6:03 kind of diffusing in into the the eye 6:03 kind of diffusing in into the the eye tissue 6:03 tissue 6:03 tissue >> around it. 6:04 >> around it. 6:04 >> around it. >> Right. Right. 6:05 >> Right. Right. 6:05 >> Right. Right. >> I do do like that estriol there like I 6:07 >> I do do like that estriol there like I 6:07 >> I do do like that estriol there like I was saying about the dosing. Everybody's 6:09 was saying about the dosing. Everybody's 6:09 was saying about the dosing. Everybody's a little different on the dosing when 6:10 a little different on the dosing when 6:10 a little different on the dosing when I'm doing that with patients but you 6:12 I'm doing that with patients but you 6:12 I'm doing that with patients but you know, you so like for example, this one 6:14 know, you so like for example, this one 6:15 know, you so like for example, this one which is prescribed for me is 4 mg per 6:17 which is prescribed for me is 4 mg per 6:17 which is prescribed for me is 4 mg per gram. I do a half a gram in the morning 6:19 gram. I do a half a gram in the morning 6:19 gram. I do a half a gram in the morning so that's 2 mg. That's that's been 6:21 so that's 2 mg. That's that's been 6:21 so that's 2 mg. That's that's been working well for me. Some people I might 6:22 working well for me. Some people I might 6:22 working well for me. Some people I might do 1 mg or they might do a little bit 6:24 do 1 mg or they might do a little bit 6:24 do 1 mg or they might do a little bit more. It just depends on the person what 6:26 more. It just depends on the person what 6:26 more. It just depends on the person what we're working with. 6:27 we're working with. 6:27 we're working with. >> Sure. Excellent. So we'll 6:30 >> Sure. Excellent. So we'll 6:30 >> Sure. Excellent. So we'll wrap it up. 6:32 wrap it up. 6:32 wrap it up. Estriol is one of our little secrets. We 6:34 Estriol is one of our little secrets. We 6:34 Estriol is one of our little secrets. We use it in a multitude of ways. This is 6:36 use it in a multitude of ways. This is 6:36 use it in a multitude of ways. This is just one of those that has become very 6:38 just one of those that has become very 6:38 just one of those that has become very popular over the last few years. So if 6:41 popular over the last few years. So if 6:41 popular over the last few years. So if you have any questions, you can write 6:42 you have any questions, you can write 6:42 you have any questions, you can write them in the comments below. Otherwise, 6:44 them in the comments below. Otherwise, 6:44 them in the comments below. Otherwise, we'll see you next video. Take care. 6:46 we'll see you next video. Take care. 6:46 we'll see you next video. Take care. Bye now.
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