Getting a Leg up Using Reflexology

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Healthy Hotline. I’m Robby Besner, I’m the device developer, Therasage and also the co-founder. And today, I mean, besides being one of my favorite people on the entire planet, I’d like to introduce you, or re-introduce you, to Gabby Piccirilli. And she’s just a very special person. She’s a practitioner, she’s got multiple skillsets, speaks like, I think five languages, probably 10 by now. And she’s just awesome. She does a lot of her therapy through her intuition and she’s sort of an empath and in lot of ways, in understanding the way the body works. She has an incredible skillset which she’s gonna tell us about a little bit today. 

But today’s interview and discussion is really speaking to the Lyme community and everybody out there. It’s just the full gambit of things that could be goin’ on with you as the Lyme patient or the person that has the Lyme disease and even the surrounding families, the people that are supporting you in your own health journey. So, Gabby, a Lyme patient, they could be bedridden, they could have chronic Lyme. They could’ve had it for 20 years. 

They could be super symptomatic and have an episode and be in bed for weeks on end, honestly, and, or they could have Lyme and it can be sort of like, they have have episodes, but they’re sort of managing their lives, it’s sorta the full range. So tell us a little bit about you, your background, the kinds of things you’d love to share with the Lyme community that’ll be watching this episode that they can do tomorrow. That’s valuable to them. I know I’m giving you a compounded question, but take the mic, get with it and let’s see what we can learn together.

Gabby Piccirilli

Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me. It’s such an honor to spend time with you, whether in-person or through these interviews where we’re sharing our experiences, our knowledge and our love for people in need. And I just wanna honor you for all your work that you’ve done for so many people, including myself, as you see right behind me here is my sauna, which I talk about every single day, because it literally has changed my life and my health. And so I’m just so grateful to you and Therasage for creating such incredible tools to help us. 

So, I am, the short answer is, I am Gabby Piccirilli, I’m a therapist, that’s the real short answer. But the real answer is that my mission is to add more life into peoples’ years and more years to their life. And I wanna do that with whatever knowledge, intuition, messages help, that I can provide information. And today we’re happened to be speaking about foot reflexology and I wanna focus on that because, number one, my background is that I never aspired to be a foot reflexologist when I was little. This came about out of a need to help myself, actually. 

When I was 21 years old, I was really ill and nobody could figure out really what it was that was the root cause of this until I came across an incredible reflexologist by the name of Wanda Bratko. She was in Toronto at the time, from Poland though. And I had this incredible synchronicity, this moment that I could have been in her hands, in her office, in her chair. And she turned my life around in so many ways. I mean, first of all, it was helped by her healing hands through foot reflexology but also, later on as my health regained and I gained my vitality, I decided that this is my mission. 

This is my life. And I need to move forward, spreading this message, how foot reflexology changed my life, my career, the trajectory of my entire being. So, that’s just a little, brief background on how I even got into this incredible practice of reflexology and how I’ve now, 13 years later, I’ve built RPT Health, which stands for Regenerative Pathway Therapy. And it is a combination of all the things that I did; number one, to help myself, but also all the people, all the experiences, all the therapies that I have experienced along this journey to better health for myself. And I’ve put it together in a modality that I think is comprehensive. It doesn’t just include the physical body. It’s our environment, it’s our connections. It’s our mental state. It’s our connection with the universe, Gods, our higher self, whatever it is that you call it. 

And it’s this just all encompassing modality and method that I feel helped me. I mean, I know it helped me tremendously and I’m on a mission to spread this to others. So today, if we’re gonna be speaking about foot reflexology, I’m so passionate about this ’cause this is where I started. And really, I think if I hadn’t had the experience that I did, it’d be hard for me to really spread the message that it turned my life around, my health around. And just from, if you can break it down simply, just from touching the foot in a certain way, how it can affect your body and how it can change the energetic state of your body. 

I later learned that, well, it’s not just on the feet. We can do reflexology on the hands. We can do it on the ears. We can also help ourselves on our face. And so I’ve incorporated all of that into my practice as well. But today we can focus on perhaps the feet and the ears because I feel that, if you are in various stages of wherever you are along your health journey, if you’re bedridden or if you have a little bit of energy and you can devote that time and your healing hands to help yourself, it would require a different level of energy. And so I wannna sort of address the whole gamut.

 And why don’t we start with perhaps the foot? If you have access to your feet or if you have the energy and you’re able to do this, it would, in my opinion, be the greatest thing that you could do for yourself and your energy and your health. And understanding that the body, the micro, is in your foot is the start of all of this. So if you took, let’s say a photo of your actual physical body and you shrunk it down and you imposed it on the bottom of your feet, that would give you a guide as to where each organ, where each gland, where each part of the body lies. And that’s sort of the easiest and the best way to understand the map of the foot and the left side corresponds with everything that’s physically on the left side of your body and the right foot is everything that physically sits on the right side of your body. You put them together and you have the whole. So if we’re gonna start, let’s say I’m gonna use my little foot model here ’cause this is gonna be easy for me.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

I love that, I love that. Actually, that’s a great way to start. And I just, for people that just tuned in, we’re talking to Gabby Piccirilli and she was just talking about her integrated approach to basically tuning the body up. And today we’re gonna learn simple methods just by using the reflexology points on your foot, which correlate to each of your organs and bodily processes. And so, what’s super cool about this is that, she’s gonna teach us, you’re gonna teach us, what spots correlate to what? And we can show a little graph of this later on that you provided us, which I think is amazing. And then, all of us at home, like when we’re feeling awful, we’re feeling pain in a certain area, you can go right to that spot on your foot or your hand or your ears, as you mentioned, and then you can sort of self-help yourself. You need to go out to the doctor, you can do it while you’re resting or while you’re in bed or doing whatever and work it into your daily routine. So show me your foot.

Gabby Piccirilli

So here it is, here’s my little model of my foot. And just before we start with that, I just wanna also say that if you don’t have much strength in your hands, perhaps your hands are weakened by your state or you just simply don’t have the strength yet. ‘Cause this takes very different muscles, sort of to work with your fingers and your hands. And I just wanna offer another solution. And this has worked for me really well, is I have all sorts of stones around that I collect and I buy wherever I am in the world. 

Something that sort of resonates with you, that you’re drawn to. If you love, for example, rose quartz or any other stone that you might have, or you can go out and buy, then I would suggest you can even use this for now, just to kind of start working with your hands and really get the sense of touch, developing the areas, the senses of touch. So, I just wanted to offer that because it will come in handy into some spots. And I’m gonna talk about it later, but I just wanted to mention that before.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

That’s a great idea. And the stones that you choose, they all have different energies also, like Shungite and jade stone and rose quartz. And so you can actually use the frequencies of the stones in conjunction…

Gabby Piccirilli

Yes.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

with the points that you’re grabbing at the time, what an awesome idea, super cool.

Gabby Piccirilli

So that’s one thing. And before you actually start on working on yourself, I just want you to take a minute right now and just look around the space that you’re in, the room that you’re in, the chair that you’re in. I want you to notice how you feel in your space right now. And, before I begin any session, I intuitively, intentionally set the mood for what it is that I’m about to do. So I set the energy for how I want the following 20 minutes or 30 minutes that I will be working on someone, or more, how do I want the area to feel, the energy of the room? If there’s something that you love, for example, fresh plants, flowers, life force, that brings you, that gives you that sense of living, of life, then surround yourself with that. 

If there’s something the opposite that doesn’t quite make you feel right, then move it away or get rid of it. And set the tone for where it is that you’re going to be healing yourself. Remember, I just wanna share that you cannot heal in the same environment that you got sick in. You have to make the environment conducive to your healing. So whether it’s surrounding yourself with those things, or just tidying it up, decluttering it, maybe making it fresh, or opening the windows, getting some fresh air, if you can. Then those are all really easy things that you can do to set the tone and the mood. The other thing is, speaking about frequency, is that I always play music that I select based on what I feel would be best for that scenario. And it could be different frequency of music, for example, 432 Hertz, if that’s something that you love. Just explore this idea of sound as a tool to also heal you, because it will also set the mood and the tone and the energy for the room. So I just wanted to offer those two little tips before we begin.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

That’s amazing. We all have favorite songs we like and your head and your mind and your memory goes right there. And so, really we’re tuning our hearts, our brains, and our bodies up at the same time.

Gabby Piccirilli

Exactly.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

And mostly I love what you said about, oftentimes, when you’re sick and you’re in bed, like you don’t feel good. And there’s a little bit of that negative energy around you in the room. And just shifting, being conscious to shift that energy a little bit can make all the difference in just setting a nice, healthy platform, creating a new fresh page and just kinda moving forward in a positive way. These are all subtle energies by the way. But when you do a little this, a little that, a little this, a little that, all of a sudden you got a really good platform. These are things you can do tomorrow. Actually you can do as soon as you get off this episode.

Gabby Piccirilli

Right now.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Try it out. I mean, there’s no better time than now, right?

Gabby Piccirilli

Absolutely.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Okay, keep goin’ ’cause I’m just recording all these tips and I can’t wait to list them after we’re all done. So people can kinda reflect on this episode and then look you up afterwards to learn more. So keep goin’.

Gabby Piccirilli

Thank you. So the last thing is that also, why not engage the sense of your smell? So right now, before we started this conversation together, I did this exact exercise. I set this energy for this room so that I could be of the highest service that I could, the highest vibrational, my surroundings would have this high frequency and high vibration. And I also just allowed the Therasage air diffuser to surround the space with smell. And I used a certain smell that I love that reminds me of a garden, that reminds me of being outside. That gives me vitality. It gives me life. It makes me feel alive. So I just wanted to also add that little piece. 

That smell is also very important. So if there’s a certain, if it’s lavender, something that you love, then why not yourself with that? So, let’s move on to the foot then. So if you are in a position that you can have access to your foot, why don’t we start with the very top, which is the most important, in my opinion, area that needs stimulation, that needs the work, and that is the toes and the base of the toes. So when I refer to the toes, I’m talking about literally every single little part of the entire toe, and it’s important that you don’t miss the base of the toes. On the front and on the back, underneath here. 

And what this refers to is the head, the head and the neck. The most amount of lymphatic glands actually reside in the areas of our upper thoracic area. So that would be our throat and our bronchial areas in order to protect us from inhaling toxicity, et cetera. And so most times when there is an opportunity to release the lymphatic system, it will start with this area here of the toes, the base of the toes, specifically in between the toes. Now, if you just touch your feet right now, or your hands, if you have access to your hands, this will work equally well with the hand, I just want you to pay attention to the temperature of your hands and your feet and use the palm of your hands in order to assess where it is that it’s a little bit cooler, or warmer, or maybe it’s a little bit cold and clammy, and it doesn’t feel too comfortable. Just pay attention, do a little scan as to where it is that you feel and just run the palm of your hand across all the areas. And just, for a second, take note of where it is that it’s cold. Now, I would recommend that you write this down because you can track your progress through this. I did this when I was going through my health journey and it was amazing to see that, six months prior or four months prior, my whole foot, the entire foot was freezing all the time.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Wow.

Gabby Piccirilli

Yeah. And that sort of indicates some abnormality. It shouldn’t be cold all the time. Now, if it…

Robby Besner PSc.D.

I love journaling. I mean, that’s sort of cool for in general, like many of the Lyme patients and customers we talk to, we often have them journal because as they’re moving back to health, some of these systems are tuning up very subtly. And, because of that, just like you’re saying, you may start off at the beginning of the month, maybe you’re feeling cold spots or hot spots or areas that are more sensitive, right? And then you look at your journal at the end of the month and, right away, you notice that some of those things that you had in the beginning of the month have now shifted. Maybe they’ve gone away completely.

Gabby Piccirilli

Exactly.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

And so, where before you go, “God, there’s no way I’m ever gonna get out of this rabbit hole I’m in with this Lyme challenge and co-infections and now I’ve gotten mold,” or whatever’s goin’ on, you actually can really track these subtle changes with your journal. And then you can look back and go, “Whoa, wait a minute. I have made some progress.” And then, you tune this up and you tune that up. And before you know it, like now you’re having more good days than bad days. And you’re back on your feet.

Gabby Piccirilli

Totally.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

I know we’re talking about feet, so no pun intended. But keep goin’. Keep goin’.

Gabby Piccirilli

And the other thing is too, just to add to that, is that we forget how far we’ve come. You might look back a couple of months from now and say, “Wow, I didn’t, I don’t even remember that that was something that I was going through.” Like sometimes I’ll read back a journal from a few years ago and I can’t believe that those are the things that I was feeling at that time. You forget.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Yeah, I love that.

Gabby Piccirilli

Right. And it’s important to also give your body, give yourself, the credit and the merit and the love and recognize how far you’ve come. And you can only do that if you have it written down and you can remind yourself really. So yes, journaling is really important. So…

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Yeah, most of us out there that have chronic challenges, you’re so sick of being sick. That you’re looking for some magic bullet or a pill that you can take to just shift you immediately. But generally you get sick on a cell level and you also heal on a cell level. And so what you’re talking about is walking people off that cliff or down the mountain, and it’s done slowly, the healthy way, is slow and steady. And that’s gonna be bringing you into subtle changes and tracking those cell changes. It makes all the difference. And just giving you hope to know that you’re just progressing towards that state of good health again.

Gabby Piccirilli

Absolutely. And since we’re on this topic, one other thing is you have to be also very clear on how you want to feel. Because it’s easy to know what you don’t want, but what about if you ask yourself, “What do I want? How do I wanna feel? What does my life look like when I am healthy?” As if it’s already happened. And having that picture and that idea and the feeling, and you embrace it with every single cell of your body that you know you’re gonna get better. Your body has the ability. It is designed in a way that it is absolutely looking for homeostasis. It’s looking for help. We must just provide the environment, the tools, the concepts, the ideas to allow it to move in that direction. It does need some time, some assistance. And if you give it that, you’d be so, I mean, you’d be shocked at what the human body can do in a short period of time as well. But being clear on what it looks like is almost the first step.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Yeah. That’s sometimes the hardest step. Because when you’re not feeling well, it’s hard to think about what it would be like to feel okay. And that you have the power to make that change. But oftentimes when I think about this, I kinda think that what happens is, when you have a chronic challenge, it’s like your body lost its GPS, its guiding system. And all you need to do is give it some guidance, give it that direction, give it the vision. And then, then all of a sudden, the GPS starts getting on track. “Oh yeah. That’s where you want me to go.” And then, because your mind and your cells actually have memory, you’ve heard of muscle memory, but every cell in your body has a memory and has a function. And knows how to function optimally. 

But when it’s kind of forgets its way, it’s sort of like light switches were turned off. And what you’re showing us, how to turn those light switches on by visualizing, changing the atmosphere in your room, creating a good platform. And just thinking about what your life would be like, what the vision is. And then in a sense, everything tunes up and you follow that course almost organically to get to the goal. And it’s not a question of whether you will, it’s just how soon it’s gonna happen.

Gabby Piccirilli

Exactly. Exactly. So, now with that vision in mind and all of the things in place, let’s get to work. Now we’ve got to put in a little bit of our energy to get there. So…

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Okay, show us the points.

Gabby Piccirilli

Yeah, I want you to focus on, for today, we’re gonna focus on the toes. They are so important, right? I mentioned, it’s the head, it’s the throat and that lymphatic system that protects us. And so, what I want you to focus on is what foot feels a little bit colder than the other and write it down? And now, a very simple technique you’re gonna use, with your thumb, is you’re gonna to do like, almost like a wiggling, walking motion along the toes. So you’re gonna start from the base, right? And you’re gonna use the other, the index finger, so your pointer finger as leverage, right? So you leverage the toe and you basically push your thumb into every little spot of every single toe. Starting from the base of the toe though. Don’t miss that joint because that’s, again, that lymphatic system, the throat. 

And so, what I want you to do is now go up, just to keep it simple, in a line. In a really straight line, as if you want to create different zones on those toes. Even on the fingers, if you do it on your fingers, it’s the same idea. So I’m gonna still use my index finger as leverage. And I’m basically moving up my finger. And I’m almost squeezing it and feeling if there’s something that I can feel underneath my thumb. Do you feel a little bit of goop? Do you feel a little bit of hardness? Maybe you feel, “Wow. Something is moving under there. What could that be?” Well, if it is something along those lines, what I want you to do is go back and work that area. I am willing to bet that that area, wherever you feel some kind of calcification or sediment underneath your thumb, underneath your fingers, as you’re massaging is the area that’s also cold or cooler than the other parts of your toes or your foot, for example. And so what you wanna do is you wannna work that out, just work it out. And don’t worry if you, in reflexology, this is the beautiful thing, is that you really can’t do anything wrong. 

There are no really contraindications or anything that could go wrong by doing this type of work. It’s so non-invasive, it’s so gentle, yet so effective. So I just want you to keep that in mind as well. That nothing can go wrong. And so, as you’re working your toes, pay attention to what the coloring, how it’s changing, what the temperature is, how it changes as you work your toes. If you’re experiencing, let’s say a headache or a migraine, I want you to pay close, close attention to the webbing of your toes. And what you can actually do in that part of the foot is just gently squeeze it and hold it for five seconds. And just do it as much as your body can bear. 

It doesn’t have to be totally unbearable, but you wanna feel that there is something that you are activating in those spots, and you’re gonna do it for every single, in between every single toe on both feet. And that gives an instant rush of energy and circulation to the back of your neck and to the upper thoracic area. What that does is it relieves some of the pressure from your head. And so, if that gave you a bit of relief, and if it also changed the temperature of your toes, which it should, if you do it two to three times on both feet, you should feel already a difference in your head, but also in the temperature of your toes. That gives you an indication right away, that circulation has been restored.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Cool.

Gabby Piccirilli

And so keep doing that. And you can do it also on your hand. It’s the same.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Do you recommend using some kind of oils, like essential oils or any kind of oil along with it? So you’re not just getting the benefit of the manipulation and punching those points, but also…

Gabby Piccirilli

Absolutely.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

So which kind of ones would you recommend that people can get easy that’re known been real effective?

Gabby Piccirilli

So my favorite, which I’ve been using since the day I started helping myself, treating myself, but also treating others is castor oil. And there is, I mean, studies from many, many years ago written by Edward Cayce, for example, that you can read. How he used castor oil as his remedy for almost anything. I recommend that you do a little bit of research on him and just read how he used such a simple oil, but such an incredibly effective oil, to help his patients. And that is what I have always used. And I just find that the viscosity of the oil and the way it feels on my hands, when I massage other people, there’s something so special about castor oil and I’m drawn to it. And so I’ve tried to use other oils. If you don’t have castor oil right now, you can also, an alternative would be almond oil, jojoba oil. 

In some cases where I’ve been in situations where I want it to help somebody immediately and there was nothing else but olive oil from the kitchen, we used some olive oil. It doesn’t matter. We’ve gotta make do with what we have. When you have your own two hands, this is where the magic happens, is the energy that you put into the work that you’re doing. The oil just helps along. Of course it adds that extra element of healing, but if you’re in a situation that you don’t have it and you can’t get it, it’s okay. You can use the olive oil, even from the kitchen. It’s not a big deal.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

That’s great. Cool! You know, I was just thinking while you were talking about, like it’s a bonding experience. Like here you’re teaching us how we can give ourselves self-help and love, but you can also recruit your partner and your friends to come in and share the experience with. You said you sit, you kind of chat and get caught up on all the gossip of the neighborhood while they’re working your feet, they get to learn something, you share those energies. And I love, castor oil, well, basically, if you can get the organic form of any one, like castor oil, then you’re gonna get something that’s more pure and also have a higher vibration, which is gonna work with your body a little bit better. 

So, if you have the ability and the financial whereabouts to get organic anything, organic oils in this reference, that would be preferable. And then using that oil, using your own techniques and, or teaching your partner, like how to help you. I mean I’ve been massaging Melody’s feet, my wife’s, for 40 years. So we just do it, that’s our routine every night. And so I calm her down. We have busy days, and full days, and it’s not like she’s standing on her feet all day, but just working the zones of her feet really kinda calm her down and moves her from an anxious or a sympathetic state to a parasympathetic, it gets her ready for bed, gets her mind in a different zone completely.

Gabby Piccirilli

Mhmm. Mhmm.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

And, these are things that we can all do. They just take minutes and it will shift your whole health experience. Bring it to a much, much higher level.

Gabby Piccirilli

Definitely. And since you mentioned zones, I just want to mention that Fitzgerald, he’s called the father of reflexology, and he wrote a book about the zones of the body, how it relates to the zones of the feet. And so, in order for it to be easier to understand, because reflexology, believe it or not, it’s such a science, but yet it’s such an art because there are so many points. On every single square inch of your skin contains endless amounts of nerve endings. And essentially that’s what you’re doing is that you’re stimulating these nerve endings on your extremities. And this is why you can do it on your feet, on your hands, your ears, your face. But Fitzgerald wrote an incredible book about the zones. 

And so I just want to mention that, maybe this is new to you, or if you already know about reflexology, but in order to locate an area of your body on the foot, the easiest way to do it is imagine that, like I mentioned before, you’ve taken a photo, you’ve shrunk it, and now you’ve put it on your foot. So I’m gonna just hold this like this, ’cause this will be the left side of my body. But another way to kind of help you find the area that perhaps hurts or needs energy, stimulation, circulation, is to cut the foot almost in zones. So as you look at the bottom of your foot, and as you look at your body, this is essentially the same. 

So I’m holding it in the middle of my body because this is where the foot represents the middle of my body, the left side of my body. So if I had, for example, a pain in my shoulder or close to my clavicle bone, somewhere around this area, either front or back, the way to find it is to literally relate the foot to my body. So if I know that my toes is my head, the base of my neck is in the base of my toes. If I’m having a pain, let’s say in my shoulder blade, it’s going to be on the medial side. 

So let’s say on the outer side here, let’s go underneath the your pinky. And I’m gonna find that area of the foot that relates to the same zone as my shoulder. So just imagine the zone of the foot, and you could do this with your own kind of map to find it on your own foot or on your own hand. Does that make sense? Like it’s in my shoulder, therefore it’s on the outer part of my body. It has to be on the outer part of my foot. And just look around. It’s gonna be somewhere in the vicinity of the small toe, of the baby toe, somewhere around the joint.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Wow. Amazing.

Gabby Piccirilli

And so, the other thing that is so incredible with reflexology is that there is a law of similarity. And if something, I was taught this years and years ago, when I first started, is if something looks the same, has the same shape, it might be related to each other. Meaning, if my hips, for example, are sore, my hip joint, let’s say it’s on the left side. So it’s gonna be on the left foot. Somewhere in the bottom of my heel. So again, you can think of this as your whole body. 

My lower extremities are going to be located in the heel of the foot. That’s the bottom of the foot. And so, my hip might be sore and it might be triggering my shoulder blade. Those two joints look very similar. They move in similar ways, therefore with the law of similarity, why don’t you look and discover what is happening in the lower part of your spine, in your hip as well? If you have a sore shoulder? And work them together, work them so that the whole zone, that whole zone right here can be relieved.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

You know, I love what you’re saying because you don’t need a map. You don’t need a textbook. You don’t need Grey’s Anatomy. You don’t need to be a physiologist. You can just practice on yourself and then you know where you’re hurtin’. So once you know that part, then you can just find the designated spot, fool around. You can’t make a mistake. Even if you aren’t exactly on the point, but you’re moving close to the point, it still will give the support and blood and energy to the area, and then you can work right up to the point. And then you can discover for yourself the things that work, and the things that aren’t. And many of the Lyme guys out there, sometimes they’ve got a pain in the shoulder, sometimes it’s over here the next day, it kinda moves around. So it’s tricky like that. So you just, now you’ve got a way that you can address it exactly at the time when you’re in the moment, can make the difference. Wow, Gabby, this is so important.

Gabby Piccirilli

And the other thing is too, don’t be scared to manipulate your foot in a gentle way. Like, I showed you just one technique with the thumb wiggle, but you can use literally any technique that works for you. So if using all 10 fingers works, and remember, it’s not just the bottom of your foot, it’s also the top of your foot, the side of your foot, it’s the entire foot. So if it works for you to just kind of move the metatarsal bones like this, for example, that is an incredible technique to get your spine moving, for example. Don’t be afraid to do something outside the box. To explore and to feel your body because ultimately, once your body recognizes that help is on it on the way, which this signals to the body, that something is going to shift here and it’s gonna be dramatic, and it’s gonna be amazing. It will start to speak to you. You will start to develop those senses in your hands that will allow you to feel better. To feel your own body better. So that you can be your own doctor. You can be your own source of healing.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

That’s the best doctor on the planet. Okay so, we’re runnin’ out of time and we could spend hours together and I can’t wait for the next time. But just to recap, we learned in the last 25 minutes or so, like the ways that we can actually help ourselves. You don’t need to pay for a doctor. We can just figure out what’s hurtin’ today. We can find the correlating point on our feet. Today is about feet, but you can do hands, and also those areas in your ear that correlate as well. We’re tapping into, it isn’t a discovery from just a year ago, the Eastern block countries like in Asia, they’ve been practicing acupuncture and acupressure for 8,000 years. 

Noninvasive ways, just basically stimulate the energy zones of your body to help tune everything up and get it all connected. I love the beginning of when you were talking about the mind-body experience and setting the stage and the platform for healing. So it’s not just about addressing… In kinda the Western way, you gotta pain, you wanna deal with it, take an aspirin, put bandaid on it, get back to work. No, you’re creating sort of a mood and a lifestyle, and just re-shifting your energy and your headset. So you’re creating a holistic healing experience, not just taking care of business at the moment. Today’s contribution with Gabby Piccirilli is so important. You can grab her at [email protected] or go to her website which is….

Gabby Piccirilli

www.rpt.health is my website.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Perfect. You are one of a kind, you are jewel. Gabby, I’m so happy that you’re in my life and in my inner circle. Thank you for your time today. Thank you for your contribution. I know everyone out there got something they can do right now. There’s no excuse. The time is now. Have an awesome day.

Gabby Piccirilli

Thank you for having me Robby. Thank you.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Can’t wait ’til the next time.

Gabby Piccirilli

Yes.

Robby Besner PSc.D.

Hey everybody, it’s Robby Besner. Thanks so much for joining us today. Please share this content with anyone that you think might benefit from it. And we’re looking forward to having you with us tomorrow for another great interview.