Full Transcript Podcast Introduction and Mission 0:00 GLP-1s, I am a huge fan of them because the data shows they really do help, not just with weight loss. 0:05 You know, they help control blood sugars better for some people. 0:09 We're reversing sleep apnea, we're reducing fatty liver. 0:12 I mean, the date from, you know is great now. 0:15 we are seeing that it improves cognitive decline, We are saying that helps with heart disease and so much more. 0:20 Anything associated with obesity, any chronic condition associated obesity usually since a bit of inflammation, were seeing significantly. 0:29 Welcome to the Holistic Truth Podcast. 0:31 I'm Jamie Dorley, CEO of Nutritional Frontiers. 0:34 And I am Christine Genovese, creator of the Soul Intelligence Method. 0:38 We're here to help you break through chronic disease and dysfunction physically, mentally, emotionally, and energetically. 0:45 with real proven strategies, protocols, and tools you can use in your practice today. 1:01 So I'm your host, Jamie Dorley, I am the CEO of Nutritional Frontiers, and we're on a mission. 1:07 I got my co-host, my partner in crime, our chief growth officer in the creative assault intelligence. 1:14 Welcome back, Christine Genovese. 1:16 Oh, Jamie, I am so excited for this episode. 1:20 It is a topic that I think everybody wants to know about. 1:25 I'm excited to talk about GLP-1s and what goes on in the microbiome to help us actually slim down. 1:35 Absolutely. 1:35 We are on a mission. 1:36 What's our mission? 1:38 Our mission is to make the world healthy in every which way possible. 1:42 Yeah, and that starts with our world and making ourselves healthy and we practice mind, body and soul intelligence. 1:48 And you look gorgeous today. 1:50 I know you've been, you know, working on yourself and in the best shape of your life, right? 1:54 We're like a fine wine doc. 1:56 So we are getting better at age. 1:58 We sure hope so, at least. 2:00 Well, awesome. 2:01 Yeah. 2:01 And we're focused on partnering up with the top healthcare professionals and functional medicine doctors throughout the world. 2:08 We're excited to have one of our new clients on today. 2:11 She practices now for almost 10 years in Decatur, Georgia. 2:16 I love the name of her business, Revive Atlanta Medical Doctor. 2:21 Welcome to the show, Dr. 2:23 Gandhi. 2:24 How are we doing today? 2:25 I'm doing well. 2:26 Thank you so much for having me today Well, we're so excited to have you. 2:30 We're looking forward to really learning your expertise in this really fascinating world. 2:35 You know, I've been doing this for so long, 35 years, when I started as American College of Sports Medicine's personal trainer. 2:42 Used to be able to just eat good and work out, and that was enough. 2:46 But that was way before the glyphosates and all the endocrine disruptors and where the food has gotten so bad. 2:54 It's really junk, not even food anymore.
Dr. Gandhi's Background in Functional Medicine 2:57 And I've seen the sedentary lifestyle kind of take over our culture. 3:02 When I was in college, we didn't even have cell phones, let alone room phones. 3:05 So it's been quite the journey to see how our cultures change. 3:09 Can you tell us a little bit about yourself, your background and your schooling and everything? 3:15 Yeah, thank you so much for having me, first of all. 3:17 So I'm an integrative and functional medicine doctor. 3:19 I've been practicing, you know, in Decatur for eight and a half years. 3:22 Prior to this, I'd been also practicing at a different private practice, but it's been a wonderful journey. 3:28 And like many other practitioners, i'm sure it was a personal journey that kind of got me to where I am, right? 3:35 I was fortunate very early on, I knew I wanted to go into integrative medicine, so I studied with Dr. 3:40 Andrew Weil at the Andrew Well Center of Integrative Medicine in Tucson, Arizona. 3:44 I also did my functional medicine fellowship through IFM as well. 3:50 So, you know, if I've been in this world, been a patient, which I think also is the reason why I'm able to help so many people, 4:00 because I can give that different perspective and can understand. 4:04 It's really hard. 4:05 You know, it's a really different world, a different mindset. 4:09 And you have to work a little bit to get the results you want. 4:13 Yeah, and I think we've all shared a similar journey. 4:15 That's kind of how we got here, right? 4:17 With your background, I worked under the guidance of the creator of IFM, Dr. 4:22 Jeffrey Bland. 4:24 I had the privilege of working with him for seven years, totally empowered me to be able to start something like Nutritional Frontiers. 4:34 And, you know, the thing I love about Dr. 4:36 Bland and the IFM is, for the first hour of his seminar, he would just get your mind to open up to what's possible, right? 4:44 And we always say, how do you do something honest, open and willing? 4:48 And Christine's been a really, really important part of our business and has helped us with exponential growth in our mission. 4:55 And, you know, she had a personal story too coming on the team, right? 4:58 So it's interesting. 5:00 Our journeys are all a little bit different, but very similar, and really the journey of discovery. 5:05 Right, Christine? 5:06 Absolutely. 5:07 Yeah. 5:08 I think everybody comes to functional medicine when they run out of answers in a lot of ways, right? 5:15 Yeah, yeah. 5:17 A lot patients come to when we've exhausted the conventional route, they've been either gaslit or told everything is normal and they're like, 5:24 something's not right. 5:25 And so that's when I do the deep digging and I'm able to help them. 5:30 Yeah, what does that look like for a patient? 5:33 Because the first question I get, is it covered by insurance? 5:36 I says, who cares? 5:37 Probably not, but some may, some not. 5:40 I say, your doctor has not helped you. 5:43 That was how I got in this getting, I was a sports medicine major in college and then I gotta autoimmune psoriasis. 5:51 And I kept digging and digging, and finally they said it's genetic and there's no cause. 5:56 But then after digging more I found, well, there is a cause, it could be Candida and the microbiome, right? 6:03 toxicity, liver, those types of things. 6:05 So I was really fortunate, even though at the time it didn't seem that way, you know, to uncover what could be rather running for the cure, 6:14 but running the cause. 6:15 But what's the journey like for, are you accepting new patients? 6:20 Yeah, so I am accepting new patients. 6:22 Unfortunately, we don't take insurance. 6:24 Thank God, they must be really good. 6:26 I always explain why though, because I spend a lot of time with patients, like my first initial visit is over an hour and a half. 6:34 So I'm really taking a little time. 6:36 And digging deep. 6:40 The insurance model, unfortunately, doesn't work for the type of medicine that I practice. 6:44 But I've been able to reach a lots of patients really able get them the results they want. 6:50 You know, we have a health coach on board, so we're tag teaming and getting them them, the result that they wanted. 6:56 We're literally for a lot of our patients, they're on these journeys, were holding their hand along the way. 7:01 And that's where the transformation happens. 7:05 Yeah, and we had an interesting topic at our last couple of events, you know, muscle is medicine, right? 7:11 And that's my background and Christine being a state champ in the state of Florida, very competitive tennis player. 7:18 So we're very, competitive and, we find that, the muscle's one of the most important things that we got to not only preserve, 7:24 but keep building. 7:26 And I know what, you know, Christine has shared, like some of the patients or friends on GLP-1s, sometimes they lose weight, 7:34 but they loose a lot of muscle. 7:35 They do, they do. 7:37 You have to do GLp- 1 right, otherwise you're going to get in a lotta trouble. 7:41 And that goes back to even the old days. 7:43 We work with bariatric surgeons and people on extreme diets. 7:47 I was like, look, if you're 400 pounds, it's one thing.
GLP-1 Benefits and Muscle Preservation 7:50 But if need to lose 20, 30, 40, 50 pounds. 7:54 You got to really do it strategically. 7:55 Correct. 7:56 If not, you gonna lose the weight. 7:58 However, are you going to become like that skinnier fat person anyway? 8:03 So Christy, I know a lot of our clients, what have you heard from some of the doctors as far as the challenges they face with doing the diets? 8:12 Oh, well, I think, you know, when we start talking about the GLP-1s in particular, and I'm excited to hear Dr. 8:18 Gandhi's philosophy behind them, we see people lose it in their face, right? 8:25 And then their faces starts to look saggy or hollow. 8:27 And nobody wants that, Right? 8:29 We still want the collagen. 8:30 We don't want pumping. 8:31 So one of the cool things I thing that Nutritional Frontiers does is we encourage everybody to do a shake a day. 8:37 Now, the neat thing is we actually have a couple of shakes that have collagen in them. 8:43 So our clean collagen protein, we've got it in cacao, and we're just releasing a new flavor called rocket pop. 8:50 Remember those bomb pops as a kid, red, white, blue, that you get from the ice cream man? 8:54 Well, Jamie and I grew up in New York City, so we kind of can relate to that. 8:58 You're probably way too young or don't even know what I'm talking about. 9:00 No, I know, what you're talking. 9:03 Well, we have both of those flavors and it's great because that helps you build the muscle and keep the collagen that we're looking for so that our faces 9:11 don't look shallow. 9:12 So can you give us kind of your philosophy and your take on GLP-1s, how to use them effectively, when to us them, and then what do you supplement with 9:21 and how do complement the practice? 9:23 Yeah, I think that's wonderful. 9:24 First of all, you know, GLp- 1s I am a huge fan of them because the data shows they really do help not just with weight loss, 9:32 you know, they help control blood sugars better for some people. 9:35 We're reversing sleep apnea, we're reducing fatty liver. 9:39 I mean, the data is great now. 9:46 It helps with heart disease and so much more. 9:48 So anything associated with obesity, any chronic condition associated obesity usually some sort of inflammation, we're seeing an improvement significantly. 9:57 And I love that for the medication, right? 9:59 But there's pros and cons like you mentioned with the medications, and we have to do it very strategically, very mindfully. 10:06 You know, anytime you lose weight, kind of like Jamie said, you're going to lose a little bit of muscle. 10:11 Anytime. 10:11 Even if you are calorie restricting bariatric surgery. 10:15 It's part of the deal, right? 10:16 When you loose weight. 10:16 You're gonna loose fat and muscle but we want to loose more fat than muscle, we wanna preserve our muscle so obviously I'm always gonna have ramp their 10:25 protein up whether if your getting it through the diet or Most people I will encourage to take like a protein shake, add a little bit of collagen, 10:31 take a bit a creatine as well, just to get that in the diet, right? 10:35 That's very helpful. 10:36 But again, go back to the basics. 10:38 You have to lift weights. 10:43 Stay, honestly, if we're not at the gym, lifting heavy. 10:47 And I like to stress that because I think that's very important. 10:51 Again, that what we do differently in our practice. 10:53 I know you can get GLP-1s online right now. 10:55 Any person in a box can give you GLp-one if you want it, but you have to do it properly to preserve your muscle and also prevent the rebound weight that 11:06 can happen if don't do right. 11:09 Yeah, it reminds me of years ago when people, you know, I did competitions and you get, extreme on these diets. 11:16 And then, people would come to me as a trainer and say, look, Fat and carbs are energy, right? 11:21 You can't consume both. 11:24 Protein, we all need, all right, but I was a big believer in like, you can do it on carbs, it's a little harder, or you could do, 11:30 I says, But when you drop the carbs completely, at some point, if you reintroduce them, You got to be careful, because you don't have the muscle, 11:38 your not burning up the energy. 11:40 The glycogen stores are only so small. 11:43 there's that rebound effect. 11:44 So can you tell us or expand a little bit on what that really means for the patient? 11:50 Because we've seen this happen a lot, even going back to the low carb days. 11:54 Yeah, and I think this is really important, right? 11:56 Anytime you're, number one, you are in calorie restriction, I'm just gonna use this word very loosely, You're going to lose weight, 12:03 Right? 12:04 You are going lose fat, lose a bit of muscle, And your body mass actually changes. 12:10 And something also changes is cause your BMR, your basal metabolic rate. 12:14 When your Basal Metabolic Rate, that means I'm going to give you an example, you've lost five pounds. 12:19 Technically, now your caloric needs are also less. 12:22 You can't eat what you were still eating at 160 pounds now that you're at 155. I know it sounds a little bizarre, but your your basal metabolic rate is like, 12:32 well, you know, less, I'm going to hold on to a little bit more. 12:34 I don't need to expend as much energy. 12:38 And so your, your Basal Metabolic Rate changes. 12:41 So if you go back to eating what you were eating at 160 pounds, whatever that was, you might gain that weight back because your body doesn't need that additional, 12:51 I'm guessing, three, 400 calories that you were getting before, right? 12:54 So this is also very important because every time you lose weight, and the more weight you loose, your caloric needs change, 13:03 thing that people forget when they come off of GLP-1s or they do yo-yo diets or whatever they may be doing. 13:09 You have to also adjust your lifestyle, your nutritional caloric intake, along with your diet, you exercise regimen to your new weight, 13:19 especially if you're trying to maintain that. 13:20 And I think that's very important because a lot of times your brain is like, well, I used to eat, four eggs in the morning, 13:25 a pancake and oatmeal, and you can't do that anymore. 13:29 Whether it's carbs, fats, protein, of the caloric intake in general. 13:36 Yeah, so that changes with age, of course. 13:38 It also changes weight loss. 13:40 And your muscle composition, yeah. 13:42 took the words out of my mouth. 13:44 I want you to talk a little more about that because that's still, I mean, remember years ago, a woman would come in and they says, 13:51 oh, don't want to get big muscle, just want get toned. 13:53 And I'm like, look, you can't shape a muscle. 13:56 You can only build it. 13:57 It's kind of like a bush or a tree. 13:59 you don' prune it when it's really small. 14:01 So we got to feed the muscle Can you talk little bit more that? 14:04 Because yeah, that same person at 155 with 10% versus 30%, right? 14:07 Body fat. 14:10 you know, they're going to be able to eat a little more calories. 14:12 And I think that's the part gets a bit confusing. 14:18 I can attest to growing up and being one of those women in my 20s saying, I want to be lean. 14:25 I don't want get bulky and not lifting weights because I think weights are going to make me look like a man. 14:31 Like I remember having those conversations in head saying okay, so I'm just going run.I'm going do the yoga. 14:41 I actually wish I knew what I do now in my 20s, to be honest, because I would be so much stronger and literally so more leaner now. 14:49 And I think that misconception now is debunked. 14:53 We know that you need to have muscles to preserve your metabolism. 14:57 You need strong muscles. 14:58 To keep you young, healthy, preserve you bones and so on. 15:02 Especially as we age, especially for women as you transition through perimenopause, menopausal, I believe this is very important. 15:10 We do need to make sure we are lifting heavy. 15:13 And before what I was doing, and just like many other women probably listening to this podcast, you know, we would lift five pounds and think that was 15:20 good enough, right? 15:21 We were toning. 15:22 That was not doing anything for us except burning calories. 15:25 Not a bad thing, sure. 15:26 You can always burn calories, but you're not building muscles. 15:30 and you this well, better than I do, Jamie, the muscles build when they're in recovery. 15:35 So you have to lift them really, really heavy, You have really exhaust them. 15:40 so they can recover and that's when that building happens. 15:43 So when did this shift occur? 15:45 Because if you felt that way and you were in the health and fitness at a young age, most people probably feel the same way. 15:52 What was the shift? 15:53 Was it some kind of book or movie or event that you went to? 15:57 I think for me, honestly, I had my three kids in my thirties and so a light bulb went off saying I've got to I can't spend an hour and a half doing yoga 16:07 like I did when I was single and didn't have any kids to take care of. 16:10 I have three kids take to care off. 16:11 So, you know, going to an hours and half yoga class, not including the time getting there and getting back, I cannot sustain that life anymore. 16:18 Wish I could, but I just can. 16:20 And so the shift was how can I work out smarter, and not harder, right? 16:23 Especially raising three young kids and being present for them, running a practice. 16:27 That's when it was like, duh, we have to lift weights. 16:31 You know this your whole life, And so it was probably after my last baby, which is almost four years ago. 16:37 So, you know, almost 4 years now, I was like, i've got to lift heavy. 16:40 I've gotta do this. 16:41 About to be 40. i'm going to get into perimenopause like this, this is where I need to preserve my muscles. 16:47 And, and, my only regret is I didn't do more in my 20s, because I would have had a little bit more muscle mass. 16:54 It's harder to build muscle in your 40s than it is in 20s. 16:57 In your 20's you have testosterone on your side. 17:00 40's your testosterone starts declining. 17:02 You have stress factors. 17:04 So many other things that potentially can be inhibiting your progression of building or even maintaining your muscle, right? 17:10 So you can only do better with what you know, So I don't know anything about menopause. 17:19 I know a lot about andropause, so I'm sure Christine has some comments because she's been able to, like I said earlier, improve as she gets more mature.
Microbiome, Protein, and Shake Strategies 17:28 And that's very impressive to see. 17:33 That doesn't always occur. 17:34 People say, oh, I've gotten over 40, whatever I am, this is just acceptable. 17:39 So, Christine really thrived, especially working with me. 17:45 That's awesome. 17:47 He is going to take some credit for that, as he should. 17:51 But yeah, no, truly, I mean, for me, i am probably in the best shape that I've been in in quite some time. 17:59 And I notice when I put a little bit of weight on, right? 18:03 I noticed I'm slower on the tennis court. 18:06 So I was talking with my chiropractor and he was like, you know, What are you doing for strength training for tennis? 18:13 I go tennis. 18:14 He goes, no, strength, training, for tests. 18:16 I got, yeah, tennis, so he encouraged me to do something in terms of strength. 18:22 And so what I did do was the reformer Pilates, and a lot of that is really helping to shape and develop muscle. 18:31 And I can tell, like, I could plank way longer than I was ever able to. 18:35 Like, just even your own body weight, right, has changed. 18:39 So when a neighbor mentioned, hey, you look like you've lost weight. 18:43 I'm like I have lost some weight but I've actually gained muscle and it's just the body compass changed, it moved in all the right places. 18:51 That's right. 18:52 And so I've used a couple of the Nutritional Frontiers supplements to help me do that. 18:57 Now, I love one of our newest products, the ProBio 3, because it actually helps your body naturally produce GLP-1s in the body, 19:07 which is fantastic. 19:08 And I'm going to ask Jamie to kind of unpack that, or you, Dr. 19:11 Gandhi, either way. 19:13 And then I also use our neutral glutide, which is really a natural way for us to help somebody transition off a GLP-1, right, 19:23 or maintain, and to just continue to have the same mechanisms of action to keep their metabolism moving, because as we age, 19:33 that can slow down. 19:37 I know she's got so much to talk about, but I just want to add one thing on that. 19:42 There was some great research. 19:44 This is why we developed the ProBio 3. A few years ago, we looked at a Harvard Medical School study on why are some people a normal weight and others are not. 19:54 One was obvious, the quality of their nutrient intake. 19:57 We know that. 19:58 Two is their BMR, as you mentioned, right? 20:01 So those two, most people kind of have an idea, but they'll say, oh, that person's in shape because they're lucky, your genetics. 20:07 But the third one was fascinating to our team. 20:11 It was a composition of the microbiome. 20:14 when you have the right types of, now we know about candida and yeast feeding on the sugars and making you bloated and overweight and parasites and those things, 20:21 but I didn't realize the importance of this. 20:25 I mean, it's such a complex system, right? 20:27 100 trillion cells in there, so many different... 20:30 I always say it is like a neighborhood. 20:32 You can have one bad neighbor, but you can't have more. 20:37 It's kind of what happens with people. 20:38 I think due to the stress, overconsumption of antibiotics, hormone-induced foods that people are eating, dairy products, 20:45 sugars, store-bred meats, the whole gut ecology has completely changed. 20:51 100%. What part of your practice with the GLP, or just in general, do you focus on this microbiome? 20:58 Because it's fascinating to me. 21:00 You know, a big part my practice, we do focus, on gut health, whether they're on GLPs ones or not, right? 21:07 Obviously, We do know that the more healthier your gut is, the better effect the glp-1 prescriptions will be, so we know there's a correlation there. 21:19 And that's mainly because the gut microbiome and GLP-1s that's bidirectional. 21:26 So when you take a GLp-one, it changes your microbiomes and changing your micro biome also naturally changes the GL p- one production. 21:32 It's a very bi-directional process that happens, but it's very important in just generalized overall health to protect the guy in general. 21:42 Oh, absolutely. 21:43 We created this ProBio 3. Well, first of all, what are some of your favorite nutritional frontiers formulas? 21:50 So I absolutely love your naked shake, because a lot of times my patients don't want- We'd love to get naked, Dr. 21:57 Conner. 21:58 Yeah, you know, naked-shake is a great one, cause a lotta my patience, and sometimes me included, like we don' want the fluff, 22:04 we dont' the flavors, We just want to shake. 22:07 We want protein without the junk, so that's a good one. 22:11 That's really good. 22:12 Sweet Balance is another one of my favorite for my patient that have insulin resistance or blood sugar instabilities that don't want to go on medications 22:23 just yet for managing diabetes, pre-diabetes, insulin resistant. 22:27 So that's a good one. 22:27 And it postprandially really, or after you eat really does balance that blood-sugar. 22:32 Then the other one of my favorite is probably sleep time. 22:36 A lot of patients love. 22:38 Everybody needs a little help going to sleep these days. 22:41 Sleep time seems to be one our favorite. 22:43 formula. 22:43 So doing different things, but naked shake is probably one of our favorites. 22:47 I love it. 22:48 As Christine said, we love to get naked. 22:50 And the reason we came out with this formula is because we have so many doctors and clients and friends or patients like yourself that They don't like 22:59 things that are too sweet. 23:00 And once you get them off of some of these very addicting sweeteners, right? 23:04 You know, if it's peanut butter cups, or they're eating, you know some kind of drinks with sweetener. 23:10 It's too, sweet, yeah. 23:10 Yeah. 23:11 Once you start getting people off that, they don' want it. 23:14 So we brought it to Naked so that if somebody wants to do it themselves, I can. 23:19 They can utilize any of our recipe guides. 23:22 Exactly. 23:22 Christine was mentioning earlier, like Dr. 23:24 Lisa Coates, one of Yeah. 23:26 Speakers last weekend. 23:27 Oh, you know, Dr. 23:28 Cove? 23:28 I love Dr Lisa. 23:30 Yes. 23:31 An amazing human being. 23:32 Nothing but good things to say about her. 23:35 Yeah, she's pretty incredible. 23:37 I mean, and to come to our event after a brain surgery, you know, She had a benign tumor removed in February. 23:47 To be able to speak for us just a week ago was just absolutely one of the most incredible things to witness. 23:56 Talk about the resilience, right? 23:58 Yes. 23:59 One of the things you mentioned, Dr. 24:04 Gandhi, was how GLP-1s can help with sleep apnea. 24:09 You just mentioned sleep time being a favorite product of yours. 24:12 So what's going on there, and how does that affect and improve sleep acne? 24:17 I found that fascinating. 24:19 Yeah. 24:20 Sleep apneas, for most people, it's because of extra weight. 24:24 That's usually what it is, right? 24:26 The extra weight causes, unfortunately, people to snore, that kind of thing. 24:30 And so when you're able to stop snoring because you've lost weight, That's literally the link. 24:36 It's the weight loss that happens. 24:37 The other thing that happened too is, I'm sure you guys know about this, the more weight you have, your joints hurt way more, 24:45 right? 24:46 Your body can't handle. 24:47 Your knees, you usually hear from my knees. 24:49 So like osteoarthritis also gets better because you've lost the weights. 24:52 Anytime you lose that additional fat, hopefully, You're not snoring, Your joints are better, so many things improve. 25:01 Yeah, what was mentioned with Dr. 25:03 Coach is I've been working with her since she got into functional medicine in the early 2000s. 25:08 She's a close personal friend of Christine. 25:10 she wrote the forwarding Christine's book and she's been the speaker at multiple of our events. 25:15 And one of the highlights of her event last week was, you know, I didn't realize she was even still at the event and we were walking to watch the sunset. 25:23 and She came walking up with Victoria and We had the sweetest conversation walking back on the beach, just about life in general. 25:30 But we were talking later on about the GLP-1s, and I says, what's the best results you get? 25:36 She goes, when I use the Supershake, two scoops or the clean collagen protein, to get 40 grams of protein before noon, I see a huge shift in fat to muscle loss. 25:49 So how do you incorporate the SuperShake for any of your patients that you're trying to lose weight or even manage their weight? 25:57 Yeah. 25:57 So, you know, ideally I'm going to tell people, I want you to eat real foods, right? 26:02 I don't want to you eat as much protein as possible. 26:05 Protein, like when I harp on protein, harping on every meal should have protein. 26:09 Let's track our protein let's count your macros if possible about. 26:13 30 to 40 grams of protein per meal. 26:15 We want to make sure that we're getting protein. 26:17 So whether you add a shake, breakfast, lunch or dinner, or even as a snack, that's perfectly fine. 26:22 But we want chicken, eggs, fish, edamame, beans, lentils, legumes. 26:32 We don't want to just only focus on eating chicken and broccoli and rice all the time. 26:37 Like we want make sure that we are constantly switching it up also for our microbiome because, you know, our micro biome likes diversity. 26:45 And so I am a huge fan of making sure getting all different types of protein throughout the day. 26:53 But yes, we do have to supplement because after a while we're tired of eating, or full. 26:57 We need to incorporate a shake at least once a day to get those numbers, especially for some of my male patients who were trying to aim like 150 or even 27:06 like higher amounts of proteins. 27:08 For females, I think we can maybe get that 100 grams easier, but the higher protein requirements we need, Oh, absolutely. 27:19 And the great thing is normally you pay for convenience. 27:23 In this example, it's actually a budget buster because to get 40 grams of protein is quite pricey and very inconvenient. 27:32 I think that's what's happened over the years. 27:33 It's also, and I this is also important because a lot of the protein out there, you guys probably know this better than I do. 27:38 There's a of lead in there. 27:42 my husband will be like, oh, look, I found protein chips. 27:45 And I'm like I don't know if that's good to eat. 27:46 You know what I mean? 27:48 Yes, you may be getting protein. 27:49 There's also a misconception. 27:51 Again, and I am sure you know this more than I do, but when you look at the amount of protein that are in supplements or foods or... 27:59 crap that could be out there now. 28:00 And you see how much protein you're actually absorbing, it might say 20 grams, but you are only absorbing 10% of that. 28:07 That does not add to good quality protein, right? 28:10 And so there is that as well. 28:12 So there's so many different things when it comes to protein quality that I like to stress because not all protein is created equal. 28:21 Unfortunately, you know, the market now has like a gazillion and one protein products and foods that have been adding protein in there. 28:30 I see it all the time and we think it might be a good option. 28:34 But again, that's what we call ultra-processed crap. 28:37 So it's really good marketing, might not necessarily be good for you. 28:42 UPC, like the U-P-C code, ultra-processed crop. 28:46 I like that, Christine. 28:47 That'd be a good poster. 28:49 A steal of that. 28:50 Yeah. 28:51 Well, credit you, of course, Doc. 28:53 But no, I saw like Insurer boost one of those the other day. 28:56 It was walking in the store and it said 10 grams of protein. 28:59 You son of a gun. 29:00 And I had to stop and look at the label. 29:02 There was a list of chemicals that was never ending and its milk protein, Sugar, high fructose corn syrup, and it goes on and on, 29:13 so we love this Shake a Day. 29:16 We're lifetime members of the club. 29:19 Christine, which Super Shake or Shake A Day do you love the most?
Sleep, Recovery, and Future of Metabolic Medicine 29:24 Well, today I actually did Ultimate Shake Vanilla. 29:29 with chocolate proline greens. 29:31 So I was going to get, I switched it up today. 29:34 I did a little something different. 29:35 Chocolate and vanilla. 29:39 So I did all of the vitamins and minerals and the, you know, cause ultimate shake is a meal replacement. 29:45 And when you put it with the greens, You get everything you need in one day. 29:48 Um, and I was feeling like I need a little extra zhuzh today. 29:52 So that's what I do. 29:54 I love the proline greens by the way, the Proline Greens are amazing. 29:58 It's like, uh, one of our favorites for our patients. 30:01 Do you like the chocolate? 30:02 Count chocolate or do you? 30:03 I like chocolate. 30:08 I don't know how I started doing this, but I put it in warm water and it makes me feel like it's a hot chocolate. 30:14 It's like a guilty pleasure of mine. 30:18 One of our friends and also clients, when we first came out with it, Dr. 30:23 Jamie Nicky said, hey, I tried it with hot water at night and a little bit of almond milk. 30:30 And it was like the best hot chocolates ever. 30:34 I love it. 30:35 Such a cool idea. 30:38 Yeah, I love doing this super shake. 30:40 I look, i'm a peanut butter guy. 30:41 Yeah. 30:51 And using the chocolate greens. 30:52 I do two scoops of each. 30:54 That's what I did for breakfast today. 30:56 And when we were at the event last week, even though someone else was making them, it wasn't my recipe. 31:00 So I didn't miss it. 31:02 It's like, I couldn't wait to have a shake the next morning. 31:04 But I even take them on the road and I encourage people, look, if you do the ultimate shake and the greens, you got your 90 essential nutrients. 31:12 You don't have to take your multivitamins. 31:13 If you have everything in there, It is like an insurance policy and your food. 31:17 What they found, as you had mentioned earlier, post-pranally, When you control the blood sugar and you incorporate the protein and fat, 31:25 that sequence of events hormonally goes in your favor. 31:29 Right. 31:30 From instead of storing fat increasing cravings and lowering energy, now you start burning fat. 31:37 energy and eliminating cravings. 31:40 Can you share us a little bit, some of your experience of like, what are some, of the one or two or three major pitfalls when you see people coming in 31:49 that with, with eating the misconceptions that, you know, we've been marketed to that you got to stay away from this or that. 31:55 Cause I think there's still a lot of confusion. 31:58 Yeah, I'll tell you a couple things. 31:59 I still see it in some of my patients in my practice. 32:02 You know, they still are, a lot of women mainly are under eating. 32:05 Like I think it's still somehow ingrained in her head that we should be eating less. 32:09 They're skipping meals and maybe it is because they have a decreased appetite or they've been programmed since high school to be skinny and so you have 32:16 to skip a meal and be under calorie. 32:19 And so I that unfortunately still there. 32:23 People also think because they hear you have to eat protein, so they think they're eating protein. 32:28 And when I sit down and actually calculate how much protein they are eating, it's only 60 grams. 32:32 I'm like, that's not going to do anything for you, you know? 32:36 It's very hard to, especially for my population of males and females that are actually vegetarian or vegan, to get all that protein in. 32:46 whether it's through supplements, because after a while they don't want any more supplements. 32:49 They don' want to supplement their, I have to tell them, listen, if you're not going to eat animal protein, and I hate to break it to you, 32:57 you have two supplement with protein and obviously other nutrients to get your nutritional up, essentially. 33:09 So there's still a lot of misconception. 33:10 I think that on the other end of the spectrum, I do have a wide array of patients. 33:16 And I have people that'll come in and they're like, oh, i'm just eating animal protein. 33:20 iIm just hardcore carnivore.i'm not going to eat anything but carnival. 33:24 But I'm like okay, but what about your heart? 33:26 What about you microbiome? 33:27 And what the fiber that your body needs? 33:30 So, there is a, and this is not gonna change. 33:33 10 years from now, guys, we'll have the same conversation. 33:36 There's always gonna be some sort of nutrition debate. 33:39 And we'll never figure it out and everybody's body does differently and responds well to different things. 33:44 But I think we're still going to have a nutritional debate 10 years from now and what's the best diet and how much should we eat and should not eat. 33:51 It's just how it is, I hope that people are eating better quality protein. 33:56 And I especially hope for females that they're getting a good amount of calories into the diet, healthy protein calories in general, 34:03 but just stop starving themselves essentially. 34:06 That's a great, great suggestion. 34:07 Good news if all your patients are listening, Super Shake is vegan. 34:12 So that qualifies as vegan, so you have the Super shake naked and all the flavored Super shakes. 34:18 All the colors, we have reds, greens, oranges and purples and the Apple Jacks green. 34:23 There's lot of ways they can supplement even though you want them to eat food. 34:27 For a vegetarian, what protein sources would you recommend? 34:31 Because I don't like soy or tofu for people. 34:33 And I don't like what I call this fake meat. 34:38 I know. 34:38 Unfortunately, I think the best forms of protein happen to be the pea protein blends. 34:43 That seems to the better options. 34:47 It's really tough because after a while, all the stuff that's out there again is kind of like processed. 34:54 And so I very, you know, we have to start wondering 10 years from now we'll find out all that processed protein is causing something, 35:03 and so, I'm always like, let's keep it closer to natural as possible. 35:08 When we're looking for protein supplements, You know I was like the less ingredients the better. 35:13 Yeah, well, our protein is clean as can be. 35:17 I've been doing it 35 years. 35:19 We don't use any artificial flavorings, calling it dyes or additives. 35:23 There's no lactose in our whey protein. 35:25 Our clean collagen protein uses hydro beef, which is a patented research trademark form of beef protein, very high protein efficiency ratio. 35:34 And our super shakes are fortified for a complete amino acid profile. 35:38 So you have options for your people. 35:40 Then Christine, like she said, when she's a little, what was that, nudge? 35:44 Yeah, I get the ultimate shake in. 35:49 So you had mentioned one of our newest formulas that has done extremely well, including myself for blood sugar. 35:56 But Christine was there when we were in the discovery phase. 35:59 She knows the sweet balance so well. 36:02 Maybe you can comment a little more on the Sweet Balance. 36:05 Yeah, you know, in terms of our Sweet Balance product, it's really cool. 36:09 It's got this unique ingredient called Dahlia in it. 36:12 And to my knowledge, its one of the first products that's leveraging that ingredient to really help affect A1C. 36:20 When we were first testing, I kind of put Jamie on the spot, we actually were in Atlanta and we we're doing a dinner and this one table of doctors. 36:30 Well, put me on the spot is right. 36:31 I'm still sweating doc. 36:34 This is how she is. 36:36 A rep had come in and they just got those glucose monitors that you stick on your wrist to monitor. 36:41 And so I said, okay, we have a bottle of, and at the time we still had Sweet Balance in development. 36:48 So we used our flagship product called Glucolize and we had it on a dessert table. 36:53 Okay, I want all of you to measure your glucose right now, then I want you to go have four glucose, I asked him to take four, 37:01 and then, you want to have dessert after and I wanna check your glucose right after. 37:06 Every single one of them showed us that their glucose did not spike, it did go up. 37:11 And I was like, score, now you understand why this is my wine hack, okay? 37:14 This is exactly what that's for. 37:17 Now, wanted to ask you, In your opinion, since this is a big part of your practice, what do you think the future of weight loss and metabolic medicine 37:27 looks like? 37:28 Where are we going? 37:29 Does GLP-1 have a long-term play? 37:32 Yeah, GLPs are not going anywhere. 37:34 In fact, they're only going to get better. 37:35 I love the new data. 37:38 The stuff that's emerging in the pipeline, oral GLP-1s are about to be launched soon. 37:46 Combination GLPs, so there's carnilatide and rare 2-tide, and all this other stuff, that I'm super excited about. 37:54 So it's only going to get better. 37:55 It's not going away, which I think is fabulous. 37:58 I think this is great because, you know, that means hopefully we'll see less cancer, less obesity, chronic illness, problems, 38:07 heart disease, potential autoimmune disease and more. 38:10 What this does not help with again, as you guys know is that, now we might see sarcopenia because everybody's going to be on it and everybody is going 38:17 be skinny fat. 38:18 And so hopefully, we do enough education. 38:23 to, you know, make sure that we're preserving the muscles and especially for women, as we enter the perimenopause menopal phase, 38:31 we don't want to end up with osteoporosis, We don' want t break anything. 38:34 We do n't wanna be fragile beings. 38:36 You know? 38:36 I see it now in Hollywood where everybody is super skinny and like underneath I'm like, oh my god, I bet she's osteopenic. 38:44 Like, you know, like I know she is skinny, but she probably like brittle underneath, no nutrients for the bones. 38:53 But, hopefully this will change with education and I do hope that we are really focusing on mental health and hopefully that will be the trend. 39:06 I agree, one wholeheartedly. 39:08 Yeah, I think that's really the importance of a shake. 39:10 You know, for me at least, you know one of the things that you said that really struck home was about the skipping meals, 39:16 right? 39:16 That we feel as women that we need to eat less. 39:19 And so one the the thing that has really helped change the game for is having that shake in the morning, and one thing Jamie shared early on when I joined 39:26 Nutritional Frontiers is that You know, that food is information. 39:29 And so if you can get your body started right in the morning, and even the psychology of drinking as opposed to eating, I felt really helped, 39:38 right? 39:38 So that's one of the reasons why I'm such a big proponent for a shake first thing in morning. 39:43 Then usually, you know if your hungry, a little small meal at lunch or another shake and then a reasonable dinner. 39:50 It's funny because, like you said, I don't want to eat. 39:53 I'm not as hungry, but I know my body needs the food. 39:58 Oftentimes, sipping a shake in the afternoon gets me through. 40:03 When you throw some fun stuff in it, we have an electrolyte blend that I love called Power Fuel. 40:09 So when you're getting that three o'clock drag, Like, oh, I want that coffee. 40:14 Instead of going for the coffee, i'll go for power fuel. 40:17 And it just gets me revved up. 40:19 It gets all my mitochondria pumping. 40:21 That's right. 40:23 Yeah. 40:23 I've always promoted for people, even my competitive days. 40:27 i'm an early riser. 40:28 So I would do my cardio in the morning, make all of my meals and then do weights later. 40:33 But you know, we always, you would watch the old days pumping iron. 40:37 They would always recommend taking a nap. 40:39 Well, they were doing it on the beach, right? 40:41 But we would always say, you know, take a nap. 40:43 And even like some of the top professionals I watch now says, it's okay. 40:47 Take your nap, that's when you recover and getting that solid sleep. 40:51 So we created this sleep time because it really helps people fall asleep and actually stay asleep. 40:57 Can you comment a little bit on the importance of that? 40:59 Because we were trained years ago, about the important of growth hormone and testosterone release. 41:07 and then the recovery of the muscle and the detoxification. 41:10 So many benefits of it. 41:12 And then you recommend naps too. 41:14 Yeah. 41:15 No, I don't recommend Naps. 41:16 I'll tell you that. 41:17 The body likes to be on a circadian rhythm and it likes go to bed at the same time every day and wake up at same every time. 41:24 If for some reason you feel like you need to take a nap, i will encourage no more than 20 minutes and kind of very early on like maybe 2 p.m. 41:32 would be like the absolute time I would have you take nap because again we don't want it to impact your overall circadian rhythm a lot of times when they 41:39 take naps on weekends for example then they're like oh i can stay up an extra two hours right like i have a little i got a juice i think she's talking 41:47 to me christy yeah i'm hearing all right guilty as charged we're very transparent on here Yeah, so I always say, you know, 41:55 go to bed at the same time, even on the weekends, wake up at same the time. 41:58 The body likes routine, the body like consistency. 42:01 That is what the data is showing. 42:02 But sleep time really does help for people that have trouble falling asleep. 42:06 And I really hope the reason why I like it is because most of my patients, males and females, we're like busy. 42:13 Our mind doesn't shut down. 42:15 We think about all the things we have to do right before we go to sleep. 42:19 So that little sleep time really does help. 42:22 And I really like it because when we're sleeping effectively, our cortisol is balanced a little bit more, which causes less food cravings. 42:31 And it really helps us regulate our mood and energy as well. 42:35 So our blood sugars are balanced. 42:36 Everything happens when we're sleeping. 42:38 Growth hormone, like you mentioned, is released when were sleeping, so if we are not sleeping or getting good adequate sleep, 42:43 or we going to bed too late, I actually tell people that. 42:45 They're like, oh I go to be. 42:47 I'm like yeah, but you're going bed at 12 o'clock, why is growth hormone not going be released at twelve o clock? 42:51 You need to in bed a little earlier. 42:53 If we can just fix the sleep problem, half of my patients would already be ten times healthier. 42:58 Seriously, like if we could just focus on sleep alone. 43:01 If we can just focused on sleeping and building muscle, I think we're good. 43:05 I love it. 43:06 Well,I cannot believe that we've gotten all the way to time.I could talk to you for another hour. 43:12 This is part one, right? 43:15 We can talk again. 43:16 No worries.Well,i know plenty of people out there are probably wondering how can they work with you, even if they're not in the Atlanta area. 43:25 Can you let people know how to get in touch with? 43:27 Yeah, thank you. 43:29 So, you know, my practice is Revive Atlanta D. 43:31 I am in Decatur, Georgia, but I do have a virtual practice. 43:39 want to get in touch with me, I'm happy to see you virtually or in person. 43:43 Our practice is ReviveAtlantanD. 43:45 So you can always go to the website, r-e-v-i-b-a-t-l-m-d.com and find me. 43:50 But I am on all social platforms, so please follow me and please come say hi. 43:54 It's at Dr. 43:55 Mindy, it's drbindiyamd on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, whatever. 44:03 Come say, hi, give me a shout out and tell me you listen to this podcast. 44:07 Well, we will be sure to make sure that all of her socials and contact information is in the show notes. 44:12 And I am sure you came away with something that is worthy to like, comment, and share with someone who needs to hear this information. 44:21 Jamie. 44:22 I needed to here some of this. 44:24 Thank you both. 44:25 The thing I love about our career and our journey is You always continue to learn, right? 44:30 It's a never ending source and it was great to get to know you more today on the podcast and looking forward to coming with Stephanie over to your office 44:39 to visit. 44:40 I'd love to see the clinic and all the amazing things you're doing. 44:43 So thanks so much. 44:48 So, thank you for making time. 44:49 Thanks, Christine, and thanks to all the incredible people out there who are going to make this podcast the number one podcast in the world. 44:56 So thanks, everybody. 44:58 Let's make the World Healthy, For more tools and practitioner support, visit NutritionalFrontiers.com.
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