Full Transcript Introduction to Lion's Mane 0:00 A lot of what we cover on this show is long-term foundational support. 0:04 Other things are like, take it right now and you'll feel it. 0:06 Right now in natural medicine, a lot times it's more on the long term side than the short term. 0:11 But as you know, if you've tried certain products, things like back on track or even our ultimate vitality multi, lot people feel that the first time they take. 0:21 Well, Lion's Mane is so cool because it's both. 0:24 It's really, really both, they've got excellent studies on quick, hey, I'm noticing a difference after 60 minutes and there are excellent study long term 0:35 all the way out to 16 weeks showing increased improvement in cognitive scores. 0:41 Now, some of the side benefits I briefly mentioned earlier, gut and digestive support, that's what the Chinese used it for hundreds of years ago. 0:49 And most people never think of lion's mane for that, but you should always think a medicinal mushrooms in that way because they are prebiotic by nature. 0:57 That fiber in the mushroom is pre biotic. 0:59 It feeds the good guys in. 1:02 The gut. 1:02 And so you get that benefit. 1:04 Then when you think about lion, think, about this, the gut brain connection. 1:09 If you're taking a mushroom that supports the brain and mental health and the nervous system. 1:15 neuron development and all of that, and you're also taking in that same dose a mushroom that supports the gut microbiome, 1:23 which supports to production of neurotransmitters and hormones and supports strengthening of the microbiomes itself, then you have got a really great win-win 1:38 situation for the brain connection, for gut health, the brain health, the mental health. 1:43 All of that stuff. 1:44 Welcome to Vitality Radio, The podcast that helps you make sense of natural supplements and thrive without pharma drugs. 1:52 I'm Jared St. 1:53 Clair. 2:08 Hello and welcome back to Vitality Radio. 2:09 My name is Jared St. 2:10 Clair. 2:11 This is the next installment of our Magnificent Mushrooms series, and I have been looking forward to this one because, well,
What Lion's Mane Is and Where It Comes From 2:18 if you've listened to the show for any length of time, you already know that this is THE mushroom I get asked about more than any other. 2:24 It's the one people bring up when they call the store, when the messages online. 2:28 when they corner me at events and it's usually some version of the same question, something like my brain just doesn't feel as sharp as it used to, 2:36 or I'm in my 40s, I forget words mid-sentence, can't remember where my keys are, starting to freak me out a little bit. 2:43 Or I've got a family history, a cognitive decline like I do in my family. 2:48 And I want to do something about it now proactively rather than waiting. 2:52 I hear that constantly from my audience and this audience on this podcast specifically. 2:59 because well, I think it's one of the quote unquote scariest things when it comes to health is losing your cognitive ability, 3:07 right? 3:08 And you don't want to wait for a diagnosis to start paying attention to your brain. 3:11 You want it to be doing the work now in your 30s, 40s 50s and beyond before things start to potentially go south in that area. 3:21 So today we're going to talk about lion's mane. 3:23 It's also known as the smart mushroom or the brain mushroom. 3:26 This is the mushroom most closely associated with nerve health, memory, focus and mood. 3:31 And unlike a lot of things in the natural health world, there is a genuinely interesting and growing body of research behind it. 3:39 We're going to cover where this mushroom comes from, what it's actually doing in the body, What the human research shows and doesn't show, 3:47 and how to tell if you've got a good product from a mediocre one, which of course is one of the things I always try to help you with on Vitality Radio. 3:55 Let's get into it. 3:56 So the mushroom itself, what is it? 3:58 Visually, it's one of the strangest and I think coolest looking mushrooms out there. 4:02 Instead of a cap and a stem like your typical mushroom you might see on, you know, Super Mario Brothers or whatever, Lion's Mane grows as this like cascading 4:12 white mass of long dangly spines and it kind of looks like a lion's mane. 4:17 Shaggy white one, actually. 4:18 And honestly, it's got a bit more of like a pom-pom made of icicles kind of a look to it. 4:24 If you haven't seen it, you should look it up. 4:26 It's pretty cool. 4:27 it grows on hardwood trees, oak and beech especially, and you'll find it across North America, Europe and Asia. 4:33 So it actually got history of use in a wide range of cultures for hundreds, if not thousands of years. 4:40 It's what's called a saprophytic fungus, meaning it feeds on dead or decaying wood rather than living tissue. 4:49 In Chinese herbal tradition, it's call Hao Tao Gu, which translates to something like monkey head mushroom. 4:57 I think I prefer lion's mane. 4:59 Sounds better. 5:00 In Japan, it goes by Yamabushitaki, which references the mountain dwelling Buddhist ascetics who traditionally wore a very similar looking shaggy garment, 5:11 interestingly enough. 5:12 Like I say, that's got a long and interesting history. 5:15 Now, here's what makes this mushroom scientifically interesting though. 5:18 Most of what we talk about in this series comes down to beta-glucan, the polysaccharides that are found in pretty much all medicinal mushrooms.
Key Compounds and Brain Support 5:27 These are immune modulating fiber compounds that show up Across the kingdom, lion's mane has those two and they matter, but lion main also produces two 5:36 other families of compounds that are fairly unique to this particular fungus. 5:40 And they're the reason this mushroom has its own dedicated research niche. 5:44 Those are haricinones. 5:47 and which are concentrate mostly in the fruiting body, the part that looks like the white icicle mass or the lion's mane itself, 5:55 and renicenes which concentrate in mostly the mycelium, which is what's found underground. 6:00 It's kind of known as the root system of the mushroom, even though they aren't technically roots like from a tree or a plant. 6:05 Both of those compound families have been studied for their ability to cross the blood-brain barrier and stimulate something called nerve growth factor 6:13 or NGF. 6:14 N-G-F is a protein your body already produces naturally and its job is to support the growth, maintenance, and survival of neurons. 6:22 Think of it as a signal that tells your nervous system keep building, keep maintaining, Keep this circuitry alive and functioning. 6:30 That single mechanism, the ability of a food-based compound to potentially support your body's own NGF production is what put Lion's Mane on the map scientifically. 6:41 And we'll talk about that a little bit more in the future of this show. 6:45 The traditional record for Lion's Mane is interesting, especially in Chinese medicine where it was traditionally categorized as a tonic for the digestive system, 6:53 interestingly enough. 6:54 What practitioners would describe as supporting spleen and stomach chi. 6:59 It was used for general stomach discomfort and sluggish digestion long before anyone was talking about nerve growth factor from it. 7:06 It was also notably a delicacy. 7:09 This is one of the only mushrooms in the entire series that we're producing on mushrooms that was a prize at the dinner table as it was in The Medicine Cabinet. 7:18 It shows up historically in Chinese imperial cuisine and is commonly described in culinary and herbal writings as having a texture and flavor reminiscent 7:27 of a very mild crab or lobster, which is also exactly how I would describe it. 7:33 and we'll talk about that a little bit more in a minute as well. 7:37 You'll also see it repeated often in modern write-ups that Buddhist monks use lion's mane specifically to support meditation, 7:45 focus, and mental clarity, sometimes referred to as the monk's brain food. 7:50 I want to flag that because We see the claim constantly in the supplement world, you know, brain food, the tropics, all that kind of stuff. 7:59 And most of the things that we talk about with nootropics are kind on what I would consider to be more of a cutting edge of science. 8:08 That's not bad. 8:08 I'm thrilled that were discovering some of these newer things, but we have this.
Traditional Uses and Culinary Notes 8:14 ancient history, this kind of folklore of lion's mane being used before probably just about anything in the kind a quote unquote brain food category. 8:24 And so I love Lion's Mane for its history of use. 8:27 If you listen to this show on a regular basis, you know, I'm all about the history and the anecdotal evidence, not just the scientific evidence. 8:35 Although I like to weigh out both. 8:37 Now let's talk about this pulmonary medicinal thing just really quick. 8:41 The modern research era for this mushroom really begins in the early 1990s when a Japanese chemist isolated the haricinone compound from the fruiting body 8:50 and identified their concentration and their connection to nerve growth factor synthesis. 8:55 A few years later, arenasines were identified in mycelium with a similar and in some lab research even more potent NGF stimulating effect. 9:05 That discovery is what took Lion's Mane out of the category of just another traditional digestive tonic and put it into the neuroscience research world. 9:13 Now, from a culinary standpoint versus medicinal standpoint, I mentioned the crab and lobster thing, and I want to expand on that for just a minute because 9:22 this is genuinely one of only medicinal mushrooms where the culinary and medicinal benefits are both often used on a regular basis. 9:31 Frankly, I'll just tell you I'm not a big fan of mushrooms in culinary. 9:37 They're just not my thing. 9:38 A lot of people love them on their pizza or their salads or whatever else. 9:42 I don't love mushrooms that much. 9:47 animal for lack of a better term. 9:49 Very, very interesting. 9:50 You can actually find it in farmers markets and specialty grocery stores, Asian markets for sure. 9:56 Often people will saute it and butter and actually eat it like a meat substitute, interestingly enough, or along with their meat. 10:03 It also has almost zero bitterness unlike most medicinal fungi that has a little bit more of a punch to it. 10:10 So, interesting thing to consider that you can actually eat this one and probably enjoy it quite a lot where most medical mushrooms don't have the mild 10:19 light taste that a typical culinary mushroom does. 10:23 Lion's mane very much is kind of in that side from a flavor standpoint. 10:28 how do i personally use it because i don't use every one of these mushrooms that we're talking about in this series i'll use everyone of the products i 10:34 talk about on the show i'd be using everything if that was the case i try to you know run the gamut on this stuff but i do use lion's mane and i've used 10:41 lions me for a long long time it's one the easiest ones to stick with and mostly over my years using it i use the powder We have powder in a variety of 10:51 different brands. 10:51 I really like the powders. 10:53 There are a few of them from Host Defense. 10:56 And there's just the straight mushroom powder, which is great. 10:59 We Have Lion's Mane Mushroom Powder and a couple other brands as well. 11:02 But then we also have the Brain and Body Mushroo powder if you like something that actually has flavor to it. 11:08 It has some anti-inflammatory benefits as well, and some probiotic benefits. 11:12 There's a microbiome one aswell. 11:15 So there's lot of options in the powder, but if you're just looking to throw something in your smoothie or your protein shake, 11:20 your Rebuild, when you are mixing that up in morning and you don't want it to mess up the flavor, a scuba lion's mane just disappears in protein powder. 11:28 It disappears soups, it disappears pasta sauce. 11:32 Its really easy to use that way and it's very economical that ways versus in a capsule form.
How Jared Uses Lion's Mane Products 11:38 and I still do that. 11:40 I often will use Lion's mane. 11:42 And I dump it in my smoothie on a pretty regular basis. 11:46 But I also have fallen in love with a product that I co-developed with, a friend of mine, Jason from Feral Fungi. 11:53 This product I've got right here called Mindfuel. 11:57 Now MindFuel was, this was for me. 12:00 It was incredibly selfish. 12:08 squeeze the little dropper and drop it straight into my mouth like I'm doing right now. 12:14 Now, normally I'll hold on to that in my mouse for about 30 seconds, but I am filming a show right know. 12:19 But it's simple as that. 12:20 Does it taste mild and light? 12:22 No, it doesn't. 12:23 This is an alcohol extract for one thing, so you have that little bit of bite there. 12:27 It also is a combination of lion's mane plus cordyceps, a frankly less tasty mushroom, suma, gothicola, and shilajit. 12:36 So it's a really complex formula of adaptogenic herbs, mineral-rich shilajit, plus these two mushrooms in a concentrated extract that is made in the spagyric tradition, 12:52 which means that they concentrate all of these herbs down to the liquid extract. 12:56 They then burn the mass that's left over, the fibers mass is left. 13:02 And they extracted the mineral salts from that mass. 13:05 So you're getting the whole nutritional profile without the fiber basically. 13:11 and it hits pretty quickly. 13:13 I do it, I did it just now, you know, to demonstrate, but I also do before. 13:19 Most of my shows sometimes this is going to make you laugh. 13:22 I forget. 13:22 Uh, it's right here on my desk, but I sometimes have my desks full of a lot of other things, Now, what is actually in each of the different forms of mushroom? 13:54 Like we're talking about the extract, we are talking the powder, talking of capsules. 13:57 Well, it's actually pretty simple. 13:59 There are what are called fruiting body capsuls, which is in lion's mane, is that the mane. 14:04 And then there's the mycelium capsul, like what host defense makes, and that's under the surface stuff, the Mycelia matrix. 14:11 and there is debate. 14:13 I'm not on one side of that debate, honestly. 14:16 I like them both. 14:17 I think they're both very, very beneficial and useful. 14:19 And I've tried both and I had success with both, so you kind of have to test them out and see what you think. 14:25 A lot of people listening like me to just say, Hey, this is the best, but I'm really not in a place where I feel like this. 14:31 The best I do personally like. 14:33 This the, best the mind fuel liquid extract because of the other stuff that's in there and the way that it hits, I don't love the flavor of it the. 14:40 Best. 14:41 and. 14:41 Love the powder, the brain and body from. 14:44 Host Defense I absolutely love. 14:46 I think it's a really, really cool formula, but it does have turmeric in it, ginger. 14:51 It's more of like a golden milk flavor, which some people love, some, people don't. 14:56 So you have to kind of decide, I actually put that with coconut milk sometimes or regular dairy milk. 15:00 And I've also done it with water and it is good in any of those ways. 15:03 Sometimes I'll add a little bit of monk fruit extract to it. 15:06 But the easiest way is just pure powder, just dumped into a smoothie or a protein shake, and any of those work. 15:12 You can get extracts like the liquid, you can just get pure power, extract and concentrates in capsules. 15:20 We have one that's a 4X and an 8X extract, so these are very concentrated capsule where you just take one per day from pure essence labs. 15:29 So lots of options, I'm not gonna steer you a specific way Take Lion's Mane, if you're worried about your brain and you worry about BDNF, 15:37 brain-derived neurotrophic factor, that NGF that we talked about, nerve growth factor. 15:42 It's definitely worth a shot. 15:44 it's not a super expensive supplement.It has a lot of prebiotic benefits because all mushrooms do.it has immune support benefits and then it has that bonus 15:56 brain health benefit as well. 15:57 And then you just experiment and see which one you like the most. 16:01 So I think I've gone through most of what I wanted to share with you. 16:06 But I also want to say that you've heard me say this before. 16:09 If you're a regular listener, I'm not a big fan of gummies in this industry, but there is a lion's mane gummy that I really like. 16:18 It's made by Host Defense. 16:19 it's a concentrated lion main and it tastes pretty dang good. 16:23 They have some combination gummys too. 16:24 You'll have to check them out. 16:25 And they even have Grateful Dead artwork on them if you are into that kind of thing. 16:29 but just a straight lion's mane mushroom gummies are one that you may want to try if you like the idea of a gummy and instead of you know a liquid or a 16:38 powder or whatever they do actually taste quite good. 16:41 I like them quite a bit. 16:43 My favorite again is the Mindfuel because it's its own brain health stack but not everybody loves the liquid extract so you just kind of have to fiddle 16:52 around with it. 16:52 Now, what does the research actually show that it really does incognitive function? 16:57 Because that's really where the rubber hits the road. 16:58 We have all this traditional use.
Human Research on Cognition and Mood 17:09 But let's talk about the human research. 17:10 The most cited human trial goes back to a study out of Japan in 2008. Researchers gave adults between 50 and 80 years old, 17:19 all of whom had been assessed with mild age-related cognitive decline, either lion's mane or a placebo. 17:31 you probably want a concentrated extract either in a capsule or a liquid like this the mind fuel or the powder because three grams is a lot that's going 17:41 to be like six capsules worth so a Lot of people don't like just the regular capsule for that reason now there is good evidence that 1500 milligrams is 17:49 a pretty effective dose too. 17:50 But the best study so far that we have is that that three gram dose, I do believe you can get similar results at a much lower milligram dose in an extract. 17:59 I certainly have experienced it with mine fuel, but let's talk about this thing, this placebo controlled study. 18:04 Three grams a day split across three doses for 16 weeks. 18:08 Using a standard cognitive function scale, the group taking Lion's Mane showed meaningfully improved scores at the 8, 12, and 16 week marks compared to 18:18 the placebo group. 18:20 Now the detail that I think is actually the most useful from this study is when they stopped taking it and followed up four weeks later, 18:29 those improved scores had drifted back down. 18:32 That tells us that this is likely supportive, ongoing relationship, not a one-time fix. 18:39 If you like Lion's Mane, it's working for you. 18:42 You just keep taking Lion' Maine and you enjoy all of the wonderful benefits of it. 18:47 There's a follow-up study out of Japan in 2019 using a lower daily amount, 2.4 grams instead of three grams over 12 weeks. 18:56 And again, found measurable improvements in cognitive function scores in the group taking the lion's mane. 19:02 So they found that it's even effective at a little bit lower dose. 19:05 In a more recent study, 2023 in UK on healthy adults in their 20s and 30s, not older or cognitively impaired population, 19:14 using 1.8 grams per day. 19:17 That's 1800 milligrams. 19:19 What they found was interesting in two fronts. 19:22 First, just 60 minutes after a single dose, participants performed noticeably faster on a standard attention and processing speed test compared to the placebo. 19:31 60 Minutes. 19:33 That's a genuinely fast onset for something in the botanical and fungi world, most of which we oftentimes talk about in weeks, 19:41 not days or hours. 19:42 Second, after 28 days of daily use, there was a trend towards reduced subjective stress, though that particular finding didn't quite reach the statistical 19:53 significant bar, so it was trend that way, maybe over a longer time it may have gotten there. 19:58 And then there was also a study in Italy in 2019 that looked at adults dealing with overweight or obesity alongside diagnosed mood concerns, 20:06 not cognitive, but mood concern. 20:08 After eight weeks of daily lion's mane, participants showed improvement in depression, anxiety, and sleep disturbance scores. 20:15 So it is a tonic for the nervous system, period. 20:19 Really interesting. 20:20 Now you've heard me throw the term BDNF around. 20:23 Let's talk about BNDF in some detail here because I think it's something you really need to understand. 20:30 The original study we talked about did measure something called Pro-BD NF. 20:35 BNDF is brain derived neurotrophic factor. 20:40 If NGF is the signal that tells your nervous system to maintain and repair what's already there, BDNF, is more about building new connections. 20:49 What's often called neuroplasticity. 20:52 Your brain's ability to adapt, learn and rewire itself in response to experience. 20:57 It's the same molecule people are talking about when they say hard workout is good for your brain since exercise is one of the most well-documented ways 21:05 to raise it. 21:06 Now I want to be precise here because it does matter what the Italian researchers actually measured was pro-BDNF, which is the precursor your body converts 21:15 into active BDF not BNN itself. 21:19 That is a meaningful distinction because the body does have to still make that conversion. 21:24 But BDNF and NGF are not the same molecule. 21:28 They're part of the neurotrophic family, both involved in keeping your nervous system adaptable instead of static. 21:34 So between the cognitive research and the mood research, you're looking at a mushroom that shows up across multiple independent signals and many different trials. 21:43 showing that it supports the nervous system and neurotrophic factor in a significant way. 21:48 And while we know that increases pro-BDNF and we don't necessarily know it increases BD NF, I can tell you that based on the results of these studies, 21:58 B D N F is almost definitely rising. 22:01 That is a big deal, especially if you feel kind of stuck in your life mentally, emotionally. 22:08 We've got to keep that plasticity going. 22:10 It's a big part of mindset work. 22:12 It's a big of meditation. 22:15 I love Lion's Mane for all of these reasons. 22:19 Now, I want to come back to the NGF just one more time because I wanna make sure that everything is fully covered here and you understand this clearly. 22:26 Laboratory and animal research going back that early 1990s discovery and continuing steadily ever since has shown that both Paracenones and iranocenes 22:37 can stimulate the body's own synthesis of nerve growth factor. 22:41 NGF supports the health, maintenance, and connectivity of neurons throughout the entire nervous system. 22:46 That's the proposed mechanism behind essentially everything that we've just discussed today. 22:51 Memory, attention, mood, all of those things. 22:54 It's not that Lion's Mane is forcing a specific outcome, it is that it may be supporting what the body naturally wants to do anyway and helping it do more 23:03 of it in supporting brain health and nerve health itself. 23:07 So here's why I think this all matters practically, not just academically. 23:12 A lot of what we cover on this show is long-term foundational support. 23:16 Other things are like take it right now and you'll feel it. 23:18 Right now in natural medicine, a lot times it's more on the long term side than the short term. 23:23 But as you know, if you've tried Certain products, things like back on track or even our ultimate vitality multi. 23:30 A lot of people feel it the first time they take it. 23:32 Well, lion's mane is so cool because it's both. 23:36 It's really, really both they've got excellent studies on quick. 23:41 Hey, I'm noticing a difference after 60 minutes. 23:44 and there are excellent studies long-term all the way out to 16 weeks showing increased improvement in cognitive scores. 23:53 Now, some of the side benefits I briefly mentioned earlier, gut and digestive support. 23:57 That's what the Chinese used it for hundreds of years ago. 24:01 And most people don't ever think of lion's mane for that, but you should always think a medicinal mushrooms in that way because they are prebiotic by nature. 24:09 That fiber in the mushroom is pre biotic. 24:11 It feeds the good guys in. 24:14 And so you get that benefit. 24:16 and then when you think about lions mane, think this, the gut brain connection.
NGF, BDNF, and Nervous System Support 24:20 If you're taking a mushroom that supports the brain and mental health and the nervous system. 24:27 neuron development and all of that, and you're also taking in that same dose a mushroom that supports the gut microbiome, 24:35 which supports to production of neurotransmitters and hormones and supports strengthening of the microbiomes itself, then you have got a really great win-win 24:50 situation for the brain connection, for gut health, brain health and mental health. 24:57 Now, Lion's Mane is not a stimulant. 25:00 It's not sedating, which means it's flexible on timing. 25:03 You can take it at night, you can it in the morning, and you take in in middle of the afternoon. 25:06 And remember, it actually helped to improve sleep scores, but I've never had anybody tell me that Lion' Maine made them sleep E. 25:13 um in terms of duration i always recommend you give it a minimum of 30 days before you say this is working or it's not but again a lot of people notice 25:20 a difference significantly faster than that and i certainly notice the difference when i take it right away with the mine fuel line really within 30 minutes 25:29 or so of shooting the mind fuel down my gullet i am noticing things are just a little more dialed in, which is really good for the type of brain that I 25:40 have got, uh,which is,uh, seeing squirrels on a regular basis. 25:43 Now, if you're wondering what you can stack it with, you CAN stack with other mushrooms. 25:47 That's very common. 25:49 The reason I've got cordyceps and mind fuel in this formula, along with SUMA and gota-cola is gotacola supports blood flow. 25:58 through the capillaries, just getting more blood and oxygen where it needs to be. 26:01 So it's a traditional Chinese tonic for the brain as well. 26:04 Summa, my favorite adaptogen for energy is in there because, well, I just absolutely love summa. 26:10 That's why it is the major player in my Ultimate Vitality Multi and you'll see it in others of my formulas as It's not that well known out there, 26:17 it's a big herb for me. 26:18 And then cordyceps, which is oxygenating at the cellular level, so you've got more blood flowing, more oxygen in that blood, 26:27 you got the lion's mane benefit for what it is doing for the nervous system, and then you also have got SUMA to help with the energy. 26:36 You can also stack that with magnesium. 26:38 three and eight which you probably know I take on a regular basis along with magnesium glycinate which of course both also support the nerves and the neurons 26:47 and all that kind of stuff. 26:47 A lot of people will also take it with things like Bacopa. 26:50 We have a lot people here at Vitality Nutrition that take with our most popular brain formula which is NeuroQ from Life Seasons and NeurQ along the Mindfuel 27:01 or NeuraQ with Lion's Mane is a really popular combination as well and another thing that a lot of people love in that i personally love and i take on 27:09 a regular basis is methylene blue specifically focus not so much memory. 27:16 I'm not going to say people haven't noticed memory benefits with it, but a lot of people have noticed focus benefits. 27:21 With methylene blue and I find taking methylenine blue on a daily basis of the magnesium daily and the lion's mane is a really good kind of one, 27:28 two, three punch for me. 27:31 All right. 27:31 So that I think does get us where we need to be when it comes to lion main. 27:36 I don't think I left anything out, But of course, if you have questions, call us 801. 292-6662, that's 801-292 6662. If you want to try Lion's Mane and
Gut-Brain Benefits and Stacking Ideas 27:48 you're not sure where to start, I hope this show helped. 27:52 I know I didn't dial in specifically. 27:54 You know the ones I use, the powder, The Brain and Body Formula sometimes if I want something that has got a flavor to it. 28:00 Actually have that at home, Lion Mene powder and I have Mindfuel at Home and here at work. 28:05 but the ones that I use the most are just the straight lines main powder and the mind fuel. 28:10 But that doesn't mean that's going to be what's best for you. 28:12 So experiment with it. 28:14 It's very, very safe. 28:15 it's. 28:16 Very, mild in terms, you know, nobody experiences side effects with lines, main that i've ever heard of. 28:21 And so you can play with that freely. 28:23 You can adjust the dose, but give it a little bit of time, a month or two, three months, and really commit to it to see if it doing what you want it do. 28:31 I hope this series is helpful for ya. 28:33 If you've had questions about all of these mushrooms, they get a little confusing. 28:38 We're going to have cordyceps coming up, we're gonna have reishi coming, up we are going have one that everybody should know about that most people don't 28:43 called shaga that I absolutely love coming as well. 28:46 Will keep doing these episodes about every month or two to give you more information on the magical world of medicinal mushrooms. 28:53 And I'm not talking about magic mushrooms but you know what I am talking And if you have questions, call us 801-292-6662. 29:00 Visit us online, vitalitynutrition.com or at our South Ogden location or in Bountiful, our original store. 29:08 We just celebrate 49 years in August of 2026. we're going to be 50 years old next August. 29:14 That's amazing. 29:15 And I owe that to you people who pay attention to this show, pay our store and support us. 29:19 Thank you so much for listening to me. 29:21 My name is Jared St. 29:22 Clair and this has been Vitality Radio. 29:26 Thanks for listening to the Vitality Radio Podcast. 29:29 If this episode helped you, follow the show, share it with someone and explore trusted education and resources at vitalitynutrition.com. 29:37 See you next time.
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