Full Transcript Show Introduction 0:07 I'm Dr. Warden. Welcome to Health Hot 0:08 I'm Dr. Warden. Welcome to Health Hot Seat, the show where conventional and 0:10 Seat, the show where conventional and 0:10 Seat, the show where conventional and alternative medicine go headtohead to 0:12 alternative medicine go headtohead to 0:12 alternative medicine go headtohead to bring you the truth about important 0:14 bring you the truth about important 0:14 bring you the truth about important medical topics. Why is it that
Why Cardiovascular Disease Is So Common 0:17 medical topics. Why is it that 0:17 medical topics. Why is it that cardiovascular disease is so prevalent? 0:19 cardiovascular disease is so prevalent? 0:19 cardiovascular disease is so prevalent? I think a lot of this has to do with uh 0:21 I think a lot of this has to do with uh 0:21 I think a lot of this has to do with uh our the way we eat, how we exercise, 0:26 our the way we eat, how we exercise, 0:26 our the way we eat, how we exercise, um how we fundamentally don't take care 0:28 um how we fundamentally don't take care 0:28 um how we fundamentally don't take care of ourselves. Dr. Fames is right. It's a 0:30 of ourselves. Dr. Fames is right. It's a 0:30 of ourselves. Dr. Fames is right. It's a lifestyle disease. But we live in a
Lifestyle, Toxicity, and Intuition in Medicine 0:32 lifestyle disease. But we live in a 0:32 lifestyle disease. But we live in a toxic environment right now. How many 0:34 toxic environment right now. How many 0:34 toxic environment right now. How many times have you worked with patients that 0:36 times have you worked with patients that 0:36 times have you worked with patients that they were right, they were right or you 0:38 they were right, they were right or you 0:38 they were right, they were right or you were right. You just had that moment 0:40 were right. You just had that moment 0:40 were right. You just had that moment because you were listening to that 0:41 because you were listening to that 0:41 because you were listening to that intuition. I think that's a big part of 0:43 intuition. I think that's a big part of 0:43 intuition. I think that's a big part of medicine that we're we're missing. And 0:44 medicine that we're we're missing. And 0:44 medicine that we're we're missing. And it doesn't have a double blind placebo.
Evidence, Science, and Medical Skepticism 0:46 it doesn't have a double blind placebo. 0:46 it doesn't have a double blind placebo. It never will. It's nice to make these 0:48 It never will. It's nice to make these 0:48 It never will. It's nice to make these claims, but I think I like to see the 0:50 claims, but I think I like to see the 0:50 claims, but I think I like to see the science behind these kinds of things. 0:52 science behind these kinds of things. 0:52 science behind these kinds of things. And I haven't seen it. Dr. Thames has 0:54 And I haven't seen it. Dr. Thames has 0:54 And I haven't seen it. Dr. Thames has given the mantra that I've heard for 30 0:57 given the mantra that I've heard for 30 0:57 given the mantra that I've heard for 30 years. Who do we listen to? American
Who Should Patients Trust? 0:58 years. Who do we listen to? American 0:58 years. Who do we listen to? American public and primary care physician 1:01 public and primary care physician 1:01 public and primary care physician sitting here. How do I know? I don't 1:04 sitting here. How do I know? I don't 1:04 sitting here. How do I know? I don't think you know. Where do I go? Right. 1:05 think you know. Where do I go? Right. 1:06 think you know. Where do I go? Right. Where do I go to even find the 1:07 Where do I go to even find the 1:07 Where do I go to even find the statistics that you're talking about? 1:09 statistics that you're talking about? 1:09 statistics that you're talking about? And do I just trust what you're telling 1:11 And do I just trust what you're telling 1:11 And do I just trust what you're telling me? If you look at the Vio disaster or 1:13 me? If you look at the Vio disaster or 1:13 me? If you look at the Vio disaster or the Celre disaster and uh when the FDA 1:16 the Celre disaster and uh when the FDA 1:16 the Celre disaster and uh when the FDA started to really uh put these studies 1:18 started to really uh put these studies 1:18 started to really uh put these studies under a microscope after
Statins, FDA Scrutiny, and LDL Reduction 1:21 under a microscope after 1:21 under a microscope after 2005, there has really not been any good 1:24 2005, there has really not been any good 1:24 2005, there has really not been any good studies on statins and coronary disease. 1:27 studies on statins and coronary disease. 1:27 studies on statins and coronary disease. There have actually been some clinical 1:28 There have actually been some clinical 1:28 There have actually been some clinical trials done um since uh 2005. My own 1:34 trials done um since uh 2005. My own 1:34 trials done um since uh 2005. My own view is that lowering LDL cholesterol uh 1:37 view is that lowering LDL cholesterol uh 1:37 view is that lowering LDL cholesterol uh is very important for uh reducing the 1:41 is very important for uh reducing the 1:41 is very important for uh reducing the risk of a recurrent myioardial 1:43 risk of a recurrent myioardial 1:43 risk of a recurrent myioardial inffection. When you prescribe a statin, 1:45 inffection. When you prescribe a statin, 1:45 inffection. When you prescribe a statin, do you also prescribe CoQ10? No. Without
Supplements, Quality, and Nutritional Homework 1:48 do you also prescribe CoQ10? No. Without 1:48 do you also prescribe CoQ10? No. Without information to support it, in my view is 1:51 information to support it, in my view is 1:51 information to support it, in my view is not good medicine. So, do you consider 1:54 not good medicine. So, do you consider 1:54 not good medicine. So, do you consider books on supplements and books on not 1:57 books on supplements and books on not 1:57 books on supplements and books on not good medicine? I I don't read them. So, 1:59 good medicine? I I don't read them. So, 1:59 good medicine? I I don't read them. So, how can you judge them? There's a middle 2:00 how can you judge them? There's a middle 2:00 how can you judge them? There's a middle ground here. And this is what doctors 2:02 ground here. And this is what doctors 2:02 ground here. And this is what doctors need to do. They need to do their 2:03 need to do. They need to do their 2:03 need to do. They need to do their homework. They need to do more reading. 2:05 homework. They need to do more reading. 2:05 homework. They need to do more reading. They they need to take the blinders off. 2:07 They they need to take the blinders off. 2:07 They they need to take the blinders off. They need to say, "Look, if I'm going to 2:08 They need to say, "Look, if I'm going to 2:08 They need to say, "Look, if I'm going to use pharmaceutical drugs, I better teach 2:11 use pharmaceutical drugs, I better teach 2:11 use pharmaceutical drugs, I better teach myself or learn more about nutrition." 2:14 myself or learn more about nutrition." 2:14 myself or learn more about nutrition." How will the patients know that they're 2:17 How will the patients know that they're 2:17 How will the patients know that they're getting a quality supplement? Something 2:19 getting a quality supplement? Something 2:19 getting a quality supplement? Something that won't harm them even though it 2:21 that won't harm them even though it 2:21 that won't harm them even though it supposedly has no side effects because 2:22 supposedly has no side effects because 2:22 supposedly has no side effects because it's a natural substance, but it may be 2:24 it's a natural substance, but it may be 2:24 it's a natural substance, but it may be harming them. But I have to tell you, I
Risks of Pharmaceuticals and Multivitamins 2:26 harming them. But I have to tell you, I 2:26 harming them. But I have to tell you, I mean, I've been using supplements for 2:28 mean, I've been using supplements for 2:28 mean, I've been using supplements for almost 40 years. I mean, I 2:31 almost 40 years. I mean, I 2:31 almost 40 years. I mean, I I don't see the problem. I really don't. 2:34 I don't see the problem. I really don't. 2:34 I don't see the problem. I really don't. Look, the fourth leading cause of death 2:37 Look, the fourth leading cause of death 2:37 Look, the fourth leading cause of death in America today is properly properly 2:40 in America today is properly properly 2:40 in America today is properly properly prescribed pharmaceutical drugs. You 2:42 prescribed pharmaceutical drugs. You 2:42 prescribed pharmaceutical drugs. You look at the multi-billion dollar 2:44 look at the multi-billion dollar 2:44 look at the multi-billion dollar industry in this country in 2:46 industry in this country in 2:46 industry in this country in multivitamins. Okay. A huge percentage 2:50 multivitamins. Okay. A huge percentage 2:50 multivitamins. Okay. A huge percentage of the vitamins that someone takes in in 2:52 of the vitamins that someone takes in in 2:52 of the vitamins that someone takes in in a multivitamin goes out in their urine. 2:54 a multivitamin goes out in their urine. 2:54 a multivitamin goes out in their urine. Correct. It never gets absorbed. So I
Vitamin K2 and Nutraceutical Debate 2:56 Correct. It never gets absorbed. So I 2:56 Correct. It never gets absorbed. So I want to take a point that you said a 2:57 want to take a point that you said a 2:57 want to take a point that you said a minute ago about neutrauticals not 2:59 minute ago about neutrauticals not 3:00 minute ago about neutrauticals not having any side effects. I would take 3:01 having any side effects. I would take 3:01 having any side effects. I would take some contingent with that myself. 3:03 some contingent with that myself. 3:03 some contingent with that myself. Vitamin K2 metquinone 7 literally takes 3:06 Vitamin K2 metquinone 7 literally takes 3:06 Vitamin K2 metquinone 7 literally takes calcium out of blood vessels where it 3:08 calcium out of blood vessels where it 3:08 calcium out of blood vessels where it doesn't belong and it puts it back into 3:10 doesn't belong and it puts it back into 3:10 doesn't belong and it puts it back into your bones where it does belong. So 3:13 your bones where it does belong. So 3:13 your bones where it does belong. So vitamin K2 is a very very interesting uh 3:15 vitamin K2 is a very very interesting uh 3:15 vitamin K2 is a very very interesting uh you know neutrutical and I think 3:19 you know neutrutical and I think 3:19 you know neutrutical and I think that this idea that you know you can 3:22 that this idea that you know you can 3:22 that this idea that you know you can just come up with these ideas and oh 3:24 just come up with these ideas and oh 3:24 just come up with these ideas and oh this all fits together it makes a nice 3:25 this all fits together it makes a nice 3:25 this all fits together it makes a nice story let's just do that without 3:28 story let's just do that without 3:28 story let's just do that without information to support it in my view is 3:31 information to support it in my view is 3:31 information to support it in my view is not good medicine. If it's preventative 3:33 not good medicine. If it's preventative 3:33 not good medicine. If it's preventative at some point and no side effects from 3:35 at some point and no side effects from 3:35 at some point and no side effects from it I don't understand why that wouldn't
Placebo, Magical Thinking, and Reading the Evidence 3:37 it I don't understand why that wouldn't 3:37 it I don't understand why that wouldn't be in the thought process. Oh, that 3:38 be in the thought process. Oh, that 3:38 be in the thought process. Oh, that means that you have to treat 15 patients 3:40 means that you have to treat 15 patients 3:40 means that you have to treat 15 patients to prevent one of them from having 3:41 to prevent one of them from having 3:42 to prevent one of them from having muscle discomfort. That well, I'm more 3:43 muscle discomfort. That well, I'm more 3:44 muscle discomfort. That well, I'm more than muscle discomfort. You 3:46 than muscle discomfort. You 3:46 than muscle discomfort. You know, you're such a prince of a guy, but 3:49 know, you're such a prince of a guy, but 3:49 know, you're such a prince of a guy, but what I hear you over there is like 3:51 what I hear you over there is like 3:51 what I hear you over there is like almost like the tobacco industry, you 3:52 almost like the tobacco industry, you 3:52 almost like the tobacco industry, you know, 30 years ago when we said that, 3:54 know, 30 years ago when we said that, 3:54 know, 30 years ago when we said that, you know, they were telling us that, you 3:56 you know, they were telling us that, you 3:56 you know, they were telling us that, you know, smoking's okay and it took 30 3:58 know, smoking's okay and it took 30 3:58 know, smoking's okay and it took 30 years to get the data out. Here's the 4:00 years to get the data out. Here's the 4:00 years to get the data out. Here's the placebo effect. Here's the medication. A 4:03 placebo effect. Here's the medication. A 4:03 placebo effect. Here's the medication. A lot of times they're pretty close. And I 4:05 lot of times they're pretty close. And I 4:05 lot of times they're pretty close. And I think we need to be careful uh about 4:08 think we need to be careful uh about 4:08 think we need to be careful uh about magical thinking. Thinking that we're 4:11 magical thinking. Thinking that we're 4:11 magical thinking. Thinking that we're getting something in a multivitamin 4:13 getting something in a multivitamin 4:13 getting something in a multivitamin that's really going to impact our health 4:15 that's really going to impact our health 4:15 that's really going to impact our health in the long term. I like to bring 4:16 in the long term. I like to bring 4:16 in the long term. I like to bring science to the table, but basically I 4:19 science to the table, but basically I 4:19 science to the table, but basically I don't think you should cut out not read 4:21 don't think you should cut out not read 4:21 don't think you should cut out not read the nutritional books or not read the 4:23 the nutritional books or not read the 4:23 the nutritional books or not read the books on uh on supplementation because
Closing Thoughts on Personal Responsibility 4:26 books on uh on supplementation because 4:26 books on uh on supplementation because remember if they're written by credible 4:27 remember if they're written by credible 4:28 remember if they're written by credible people, people with certifications that 4:29 people, people with certifications that 4:29 people, people with certifications that you and I both have and there's a 4:31 you and I both have and there's a 4:31 you and I both have and there's a bibliography in the back citing the 4:33 bibliography in the back citing the 4:33 bibliography in the back citing the randomized trials, why not read them? I 4:36 randomized trials, why not read them? I 4:36 randomized trials, why not read them? I I think you're you're living your life 4:38 I think you're you're living your life 4:38 I think you're you're living your life with blinders on and and that rigidity 4:41 with blinders on and and that rigidity 4:41 with blinders on and and that rigidity can come back to bite you. Perhaps it 4:44 can come back to bite you. Perhaps it 4:44 can come back to bite you. Perhaps it can, but I'm prepared to live with that. 4:47 can, but I'm prepared to live with that. 4:47 can, but I'm prepared to live with that. Ultimately, you write your own 4:49 Ultimately, you write your own 4:49 Ultimately, you write your own prescription for health. See you next 4:51 prescription for health. See you next 4:51 prescription for health. See you next time on Health Hot Seat.
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