Spirit Science and Medicine

 

Bobbi Vogel

Thank you, Tom. It’s so good to see you again, really exciting.

 

Tom McCarthy

Great to see you too. So talk to us first about Etheric Medicine. That might be a term that not many people have heard before. I know you’ve trademarked it, so it’s probably pretty unique, but talk to us. What is that? What is Etheric Medicine?

 

Bobbi Vogel

What I’ve learned is it was unique when Spirit gave me the name Etheric Medicine, right, because I didn’t know today was coming. But about 5 years, well 4 1/2 years ago when I left doing the Akashic records, which is how I was really truly connected to my gifts, I started getting a lot of people coming forward to do sessions with me who had physical and, you know, illnesses and pain and things like this, that Western medicine wasn’t able to help them with. And there was no explanation for it. And so for us at first, it was intimidating to me, but I just asked Spirit, you know, “How can I help them? You sent them to me, now tell me what I’m supposed to do,” you know, which is different for everybody. 

And I started being shown or connected to my gift of being able to see this field of energy around people’s body. It’s interesting, the best way to explain it, and it’s great cause I recently started taking art class. It’s almost though I could see through the physical body and see this, this energy that is around the body, but it also intersects, overlaps with our physical body. And it looks around, you know, this thick to me, right? And so the Spirit started teaching me that, for instance, this first woman, one of the most profound first clients I had, had a horrible 10 plus pain in her bladder. And her grandmother on the other side started showing me and telling me what that pain and the density. 

So there was energetic density being held within this field that I didn’t call yet etheric. I just, it didn’t matter to me what it was. I just knew that there was a reason, there was density there that had, that was from all these traumatic experiences for this woman. And that created this stagnation in her, entered in this field, right? And it stagnated to the point of this density around her, you know, her pelvis area, and then that duplicated into her physical. And so I was shown how that relates, you know, how that density relates to the physical. And that’s when I realized, wow, there’s this field. And then there’s the physical body. And then it’s indeed a hologram.

 

Tom McCarthy

Right.

 

Bobbi Vogel

And is the best way that I could explain it then, and still now, even though they’ve up-leveled and explained that, but that’s like the simplest way. And so, well then now what? I said “how can I help her?”

 

Tom McCarthy

Right.

 

Bobbi Vogel

And so then I started being taught how to, you know, we can’t ding, magic wand density away

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah, yeah 

 

Bobbi Vogel

and we’ll talk about, I’d love to explain why that is, but I was taught how to start kind of pulling apart the density, if you want to think about a really tight hairball maybe,

 

Tom McCarthy

Right, right

 

Bobbi Vogel

and to start gently, kind of pulling it apart and sending it light. And that’s these incredible things. And when or you’re in this realm or, you know, working in this realm, nothing seems odd at the time. It’s just like, oh yeah, of course that’s what I’m doing. You know, I mean, that’s was just pulling apart the density

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

and zapping it with light. I mean, that makes sense. You know, and so this woman, after this intense session, she had lived for nine years since her first child with level 10 plus pain.

 

Tom McCarthy

Wow

 

Bobbi Vogel

And for the time she went down to a level three and then after six sessions, pain free. And so I, and within these six sessions, I was getting more and more people. And I was doing sessions out of my house.

 

Tom McCarthy

Uh huh

 

Bobbi Vogel

I put a table in my living room, you know, and she had won a raffle at my stepson’s grade school, you know, thing or whatever. And so I, one day I asked her, because I was realizing this isn’t the Akashic records. You know, I can’t even remember the prayer anymore. Why is that? What’s going on? Because that’s how I commune with my peeps, you know? And I call them my peeps and God and my parents on the other side. And now all these other people’s loved ones around me. What is this that I’m doing? What is this that you’re showing me? And I heard “Etheric Medicine”,

 

Tom McCarthy

Ah

 

Bobbi Vogel

and I was like, I didn’t know what etheric meant. Like my hair is standing talking about it, but I have so much faith and trust that I literally went on Go Daddy, bought the website, ethericmedicine.com, and then I Googled it and I was like, “Oh my God. That’s what this is. That’s what this field is. That makes perfect sense.” And then understanding all at once, like emotional wounds and trauma is sitting in that etheric space, that etheric body and treating that is more important than first treating the physical body because without getting the density out of this etheric body, this can’t release the density.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah. Which is really, really cool what you’re saying. So many people when they have an illness or something wrong with their body, and sometimes it’s unexplained pain, right.

 

Bobbi Vogel

Yeah

 

Tom McCarthy

Where their doctors can’t find. They still try and treat the body. And what you’re saying is that it all starts in this, this outer layer, this a etheric layer. And when there’s stress, when there’s trauma, when there’s something not right in the etheric body, then it shows up in the physical body. But even, you know, trying to treat the physical body or cutting something out, if you’re not healing the etheric body, it potentially could come back or show up in a different way. So your work is around treating both, I think, right? But really focusing on the etheric body to heal the physical body.

 

Bobbi Vogel

Right

 

Tom McCarthy

Is that correct?

 

Bobbi Vogel

Right Yeah. And it’s fascinating. I mean, I’m so, I’m thrilled because you know I’ve been talking, it’s funny because I think, I don’t know if you know, but I’m good friends with Montel Williams, right? And so, and he’s a brilliant guy. And so I’ve been talking to him about this for years, right? And he’s like, “Bobbi, people aren’t ready for that.” I’m like, “Well, we have to be ready.” Because this is the truth, right? We are light beings, you know, our etheric body holds everything. And so this is the way, and I hope one day that my, you know, the medicine Spirit has taught me because I am Spirit taught, has to run side by side with Western medicine and the other physical body medicines, because we’re both.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

We have both.

 

Tom McCarthy

Right. 

 

Bobbi Vogel

Treating just the etheric, isn’t, you know, we have to heal, we need both, right? And so I’m really, it’s a profound experience for me now to see today, right. This is some years ago, but today, that finally, there’s this unified thing happening with both medicines, because it’s the truth, right, in order to heal, because it’s not, it’s like any level of trauma. We traumatize ourselves with our own berating thoughts, with our fear, with our, you know, self-loathing, lack of self love. All those things have a vibration

 

Tom McCarthy

Right

 

Bobbi Vogel

that are traumatizing, if we want to call it that. And then in their woo, they are felt, and it’s incredible to, to be witnessed, right, with that gift. I see, I guess people call it clairvoyance or, you know, it just, for me, it is something I signed up for, right. And I utilize and we all can tap in, but to see that when I’m speaking to people and they say something that is unkind to themselves or someone else,

 

Tom McCarthy

Right

 

Bobbi Vogel

but to themselves, speaks so loudly and sits in your etheric body.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

And if we aren’t aware and we don’t believe that we are light beings and we don’t pull in light. First of all, forgive ourselves, have compassion because we’re all, we all got stuff.

 

Tom McCarthy

Right. 

 

Bobbi Vogel

But first and foremost, nevermind getting other people’s forgiveness. We have to forgive ourselves and have compassion for ourselves first and foremost. It’s a step we can’t skip because what I’ve learned is when we try to skip that and get somewhere else and speak some truth that isn’t within us yet, it’s not lasting. It does not last long. We come back to this space that, you know, we’re still being held in. Does that make sense?

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, it makes total sense. And, you know, just what you and I were talking earlier, you came to this work through healing yourself, you know, healing your emotional wounds, not knowing yet it was in your etheric body, but doing that work from the challenges that you know, that you experienced, starting from childhood all the way up to, Bobbi was a successful real estate agent. Everything began falling apart. And a lot of times when that happens in people’s lives, because everybody listening to this or watching this has had something like that in their life. We think, “Oh no, this is terrible.” But it really was, it was your journey. It was your path for discovering what you do right now, which is really, really wonderful. When you, Go ahead, Bobbi. Were you gonna say something?

 

Bobbi Vogel

No, go ahead.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah. So when you work with somebody, you channel Spirit and you tap into, you call their peeps, right, their people. That could be loved ones, you know, relatives. How does that all work? I mean you see relatives or loved ones that are there to help guide people that they’re just not aware of. And you voice what they’re telling you? How does that work?

 

Bobbi Vogel

Yeah. And I love that. Cause, you know, I say faith is not a religion. It’s an unwavering knowing we are divinely guided 100% of the time.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, beautiful

 

Bobbi Vogel

Through my own experience, that is where my faith was born. And I know, right, that the greatest thing that I could share with people is the truth of that. That we have before we come in, you know, it’s reincarnation stuff. What is true? I see it. I watch it. I’ve experienced it. I’ve experienced people crossing over. where they go, like all of it. And we have, before we come in and take this physical body, we are Spirit and body.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah 

 

Bobbi Vogel

We are Spirit and body. So we have the brilliance and the intelligence already here. We’re just limited by our human brain, right, our human mind. And so when we are not limited, which is before we come and take a body, when we’re in Spirit form, truth is simple. Everything is, you know, easy, you know, and we know that when we’re going to come in and take a physical body, we’re doing it on our soul’s own behalf because, and we take on these wounds, right? So we like, one of my wounds is abandonment, right? So when I watched, using myself as examples, the best way is like, so I’m in Spirit form on the other side, I’m all excited because I’m in my highest level self. I know, “Hey, yeah. I’m going to go in there and I’m going to heal these wounds and I’m going to transcend. I’m going to live this amazing life purpose that I chose before God, you know, God nondenominational, beautiful love.” And I’m excited. And my guides, so I have assigned, we all have a team that are not necessarily level. Our loved ones are, that’s the best way. It’s like, we have our team then our loved ones, right?

 

Tom McCarthy

Okay.

 

Bobbi Vogel

And this is what I know. And so I choose, I put it in my little red riding hood basket, right, one of my many wounds. ‘Cause I filled my basket ’cause I knew I was a bad-ass, right. I was like, “Yeah, let’s go. I want to transcend. And I’m strong. I am powerful.” One of them’s abandonment. So this other soul steps forward who’s not yet a man or a woman because we are genderless

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah.

 

Bobbi Vogel

and we are both, right. However you want to look at it and says, “In order to be in service to your soul’s transcendence, I will come in and create the wound of abandonment on your soul’s behalf, right.” And so, and I’m like, “Thank you. Wow. What a sacrifice.” You know, because when I heal that wound, my soul transcends. My guides, say, “You’re not going to think it’s that funny and be that grateful when you get you pop in there with amnesia and you forget

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

everything you know.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah. 

 

Bobbi Vogel

You’re going to be in pain. You’re going to forget we’re here, You’re going to forget your guide. You’re going to forget you’re loved. You’re going forget all these things.” And sure enough, right. And so, but they’re here and they say, “We will be with you through it all. We will hold every memory, every knowing, every path, your path, your purpose, everything that you need you, you have.

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah 

 

Bobbi Vogel

And we will start waking you up when it’s time, right.” And so, and that is a process. It’s a beautiful process of waking up, right.

 

Tom McCarthy

It is.

 

Bobbi Vogel

Like illness, beautiful path. That’s why we can’t go ding, it’s gone.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah.

 

Bobbi Vogel

and people can ask that and be like, I don’t, I’m not going to, My job, my purpose is not to rob you

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

of your path.

 

Tom McCarthy

Right

 

Bobbi Vogel

And you’re connecting because you’re meant to get to the place like I did with my suicide plan, you know, those years ago. I would rob you of your own beautiful, purposeful path to connecting, to knowing that you are divinely guided, to knowing what your relation, your personal relationship is with your own peeps

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah 

 

Bobbi Vogel

With God, right. Because we all have our own relationship because we have our own purpose.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah. It’s really cool. I mean, I think you’ve helped a lot of people, even just with that little analogy, because when you think about the struggles that people have in their physical existence and, you know, probably the reason why they’re coming and tuning in and watching you, it was not because everything’s great in their life. They want something a little bit different. And, but I love taking it back to source, right. To before we take on this physical body, as you call it, we’re like excited. Oh yeah, abandonment. You know, whatever else we’re coming. Yeah. Whatever we’re coming, it’s like, yeah, let’s go, let’s do it. And then getting into it and having that amnesia, which I believe too, right. 

You know, we have to have that by the way to really learn the lesson. If we’re always just reminded every second that, you know, everything’s okay. Everything’s okay, every second of the day we don’t, we don’t experience the pain or even experience, you know, coming out of the pain and how awesome that feels. So, but I love the analogy that, or not the analogy, but the truth, as you say that we’ve got a team, you know. We’ve got a team you’re not alone. And just kind of tapping into that team when you feel your lowest, tapping into that team when you feel like you need help. You did that years ago when you were at the depth of your despair and it’s how you transitioned through. 

But you needed to go to that, to get to where you are today. That’s shaped you into who you are. And so whatever people are going through, I hope they remember your analogy that number one, they’ve chosen it at some level. Now they didn’t choose to be in it forever. But they’ve chosen this point in time where they are with an illness or with stress or whatever it is, financial difficulties, whatever it is. And also they’ve chosen to be listening to this interview so that they can start to move out of that. But there’ll be other things they’ll need to move through too. So a beautiful example. I love that, Bobbi.

 

Bobbi Vogel

Yeah. Thank you. And it’s, you know, we’re never done, right.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah. 

 

Bobbi Vogel

So, you know, I, of course this, all those things brought me to, you know, this place of deep, deep gratitude for every single thing that I’ve ever been through, which is a lot, right. But that’s, cause as I signed up and I’m strong and had I, not the fascinating, beautiful thing that I, and everyone else, if you, if you can get to a place of faith, right. Is that I can look back now, even when I struggle myself, I use the same tools that Spirit has taught me that I’m meant to teach other people, that every single thing that has ever happened good, bad, but the challenging things, the things that I have learned from that about myself and others or whatever is that it was all necessary for me to be sitting here today

 

Tom McCarthy

Right.

 

Bobbi Vogel

to have the level of understanding about so many things that I do, the level of compassion and non-judgment that I can have. Nothing shocks me, right.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, yeah.

 

Bobbi Vogel

And it was all a teaching because I was always coming here. I didn’t know that.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

A Spirit knew that. And all I had to do was keep asking everyday, which is what I tell people, you know, the breathing the light exercise Spirit taught me. Great segue. I should have said, you know, Spirit sort of channels and runs through. And so they they’re also talking, speaking to me now and they just interrupted me about the breathing the light.

 

Tom McCarthy

Well I want to do that at the end. I want you to show people that little exercise,

 

Bobbi Vogel

Yeah

 

Tom McCarthy

that’d be great, yeah.

 

Bobbi Vogel

I’ll do that. And so, the breathing the light exercise was taught to me from Spirit five years ago when I was going through my own healing and at the time, they call it earth and sky masculine, feminine. And that was for me to balance my masculine, feminine, to move forward powerfully towards purpose towards today. And so when we can begin and then breathing the light is a way to also connect to them and start honing your own beautiful, divinely guided relationship. It’s a way to, when you get stuck and you get in pain, cause we all do.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yean

 

Bobbi Vogel

We’re all in a human body, right. As long as we’re in a physical body, there’s still healing to do.

 

Tom McCarthy

Sure

 

Bobbi Vogel

That’s a really big deal right now because there’s a lot of people in this space, you know, that has blown up in a huge industry that feel that, you know, they’re at a level where there isn’t healing left to do. And that all there is left to do is to guide other people. And that’s simply not the truth, right? We have to be open to why we’re here in this body

 

Tom McCarthy

right

 

Bobbi Vogel

and our own soul’s transcendence. And so a beautiful, this is an analogy because Spirit shows me images is when we get in those places, cause we all will, those tough places, right. Where we’re terrified, like right now. But you know, there’s things inciting fear, inciting fear, inciting fear. And when we get in a place of fear, we can’t, we’re paralyzed.

 

Tom McCarthy

right

 

Bobbi Vogel

We lose our connection to source, even if, you know, even if we just have a, like a little threat of it, boom, it’s gone when we get in fear. When we can, it’s like reaching your hand out of like manhole, right? So they show me. It’s like, if you’re in this hole, it’s like, get your hand up, get it, get it there and just say, “Please help me out.”

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

Please guys, God, peeps, you know, help me up and outta here. This fear is an illusion. And, and you will be asking, you will receive it’s one of the greatest messages. Ask and you will receive.

 

Tom McCarthy

When you have faith.

 

Bobbi Vogel

Yeah. Well, and then you can develop faith, by asking

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah, yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

Try it, but don’t do it, you know, in an entitled way, do it in a humble way. Get out of your ego, get out of your thinking that you’re just this, you know, human being in this. Because once you open up to yes, faith,

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

then your whole life changes

 

Tom McCarthy

Right

 

Bobbi Vogel

You know, because you are, you will have access. You will, you have access, but you will understand the level of power that we have, the army that we are rolling with.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah.

 

Bobbi Vogel

And we are rolling

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, that’s amazing. Yeah, because so many people feel so alone, especially when they are sick or hurting, you know? So let’s take an example if somebody gets a diagnosis, let’s say cancer and all of a sudden they’re incredibly afraid, right? I mean, that’s pretty normal for the average person. They don’t look at it as like, “Oh, what a wonderful opportunity to grow and heal.” Even though it is. They see it as, “Oh my gosh, you know, I mean, it’s fight or flight, you know. I may die. 

This may not work out well for me.” What do you advise people to do? Give them some, some steps. Some people have probably, you know, they have had some diagnosis that is scary to them or they’ve had chronic illness or pain and that’s why they’re watching here. What, what do they do? What, what are, obviously they can work with you too, and we’ll get into that later. But, what are some things they can start to do to tap into the team? That’s there for them that has the answers that can help them grow through this? What would you advise them to do?

 

Bobbi Vogel

Right. I mean, you know, so I, The truth is right, everything does begin with faith beyond wavering, knowing we are divinely guided. And I can’t, you know, I work with, you know, I was on the global cancer symposium and I started work with just so many people with, I don’t call it cancer. I say it’s density being called cancer

 

Tom McCarthy

Good

 

Bobbi Vogel

because, you know, I know that owning that word is a powerful

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

creation,

 

Tom McCarthy

disempowering, very disempowering.

 

Bobbi Vogel

it’s right So, because density is darkness and you know, but it’s no match for the light, right.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, yeah.

 

Bobbi Vogel

So when we can, even if you’re shaking, right. Like, which I know if I got that diagnosis, believe me, I wouldn’t be like, “Oh yeah.” I mean, I know that. I’m still, I have a human brain. That’s terrifying, right.

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

But I also am armed with knowing already, you know, this, what is this about? Start, start and breathing light, breathing light. And that might sound crazy, but it is the absolute truth that when you, ’cause number one, you know, we live in a quantum field, right? And we are energy beings. We can release density.

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

We can release it. We speak to it. We as for help with it. But we need light in order to start moving this stagnation and this density that’s being called cancer.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah 

 

Bobbi Vogel

And we have to know, they just stepped in, it’s funny. I won’t say the swear word, but about a year ago I wrote down on a piece of paper, You cannot mind F yourself out of your emotional wounds. You can’t just think them away. It’s because they need the acknowledgement,

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

the forgiveness, the compassion, and then comes the release.

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah 

 

Bobbi Vogel

Because what that density is calling your body, your physical body is such a brilliant course. It works in unison with your etheric body, which is a brilliant high vibrating. And they do communicate within that overlap space where our meridians, they’ve taught me about acupuncture and I relight people’s meridians that are out. It’s just, it’s all so much talk about, but where there’s meridians that aren’t lit, it’s like a candle, right? Robbing a candle of oxygen, the light goes out. We need oxygen. We need light as much as we need oxygen. If you please can think of it this way, if you held your breath for your whole life, right? People.

 

Tom McCarthy

Your life wouldn’t be very long.

 

Bobbi Vogel

Right, but you know, people the truth is, cause cancers of, the density called cancer is a very, very, very deep wounding.

 

Tom McCarthy

Okay

 

Bobbi Vogel

And if we can’t first just say to our ourselves, our soul first that inhabits this physical body, “What do you need? I’m here. You know, please forgive me. You know, let’s move forward. How can I help you release this? What is it that we need? I’m here for you.” It’s like, there’s all this stuff. It’s like reparenting or parenting yourself for the first. But it’s you on your own journey. Your soul is on this journey

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

here in itself. And it’s the answer is not the same for any one person, because we’re all here for different reasons. But vibrationally, there is no fingerprint the same.

 

Tom McCarthy

Right

 

Bobbi Vogel

No purpose that’s the same. There’s no energy body that holds density the same. So get in here with yourself. Get in here with, begin cultivating or strengthening your faith. Start asking, “Please be with me. I need your help.” Giving your energy body or third body the light that it needs. If you will, you know, you’ll give people the free link

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

to the breathing light exercises and we can do it, you know, quickly at the end.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

But, we pull in, you want to imagine this big funnel of light and it’s endless. There is. It’s just endless, like everything else in the quantum field.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah 

 

Bobbi Vogel

There’s no limit to any of it. Light is free. I always, until somebody figures out how to monetize it, right. Which I, you know, don’t ever fall for it. But so we pull it in, “God, give me light. Peeps, give me light.” We pull it in and please release any thoughts that no longer serve me. See our heads, our minds are wrapped with the illusion of all this physical stuff. But it’s like, you wanna break out of that and be like, you know, and let the light in. Let the density and the stagnation start releasing itself. Especially, you know, a lot, men too, but women here like get the light in your throat and pull all the stuff out of there so you could speak your truth and you can take up space. 

Right. And just pulling it in. And we toss it off. The best analogy is as if you took a mud bath, right? You want to think of it like that. And it’s real. This is how simple it is. You, because your intention, if you have enough reverence for your soul, which we’re asking you to have now, because it’s time. Have enough reverence for your soul and your journey and your commitment to self to stand there, nevermind your ego. Let it all go and say, “Help me. What is it that I need to heal?” Release it. Take it from your space. Toss it off. Ask for it to be transmuted. Just the intention and that commitment on a daily basis will change your whole life.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, yeah. And that’s amazing. Well, and so many people see themselves as just their physical body and the physical body is a dual image, as you said, of what’s really going on outside, and this process of visualizing. Because they might be, “Well, I don’t see light all around me.” No, no, no. It’s there. It’s there. We’re light. Like if you look, if you take it down to the smallest particle of who you are, it’s light. Light, it’s energy, it’s light, but people don’t see themselves as energy or light. They see themselves as this physical mass. And I again, I really love your analogy. It’s a different way of thinking that can help people heal is calling it, what did you call again? You said cancer is just a what?

 

Bobbi Vogel

Density called cancer.

 

Tom McCarthy

So seeing it as like, instead of this nice, smooth moving particles, there’s a dense part in my body that’s just kind of clogged up there. But now when I bring energy in, I can, I can release that density, or I can heal that density. I can bring light to that density where it doesn’t have to be so dense anymore. And it can dissipate. That’s just such a beautiful way of thinking about a disease like cancer or anything where you’ve got pain or illness in your body, you know, versus going online. Okay, let me see the symptoms. What’s going to happen to me. Hey, it’s just a density, right? Work with the light and start getting that density to dissipate. That’s a beautiful way of thinking about healing, Bobbi. 

Thank you for sharing that. I love that. And just talk a little bit about the. I know there’s a link, but you gave some examples. So what, when you say breathe in the light, just, you know, 30 seconds or so, or a minute, like, what are you, what are you asking people to do? You said breath it in, particularly for women in this throat area and then kind of feel the density moving out. And then can you give them a couple other pointers on it?

 

Bobbi Vogel

Yeah and I want to add real quick, you know, I just, cause I, in that since the time, I say this about women, you know, but the truth is, right, women, a lot of women, cause there’s a lot of things that people don’t like to talk about, but like sexual abuse, rape all these things, it will live. People can not have kids and conceive because of those, the density that is being held

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, yeah. 

 

Bobbi Vogel

And there’s miraculous things that have happened with the clearing of that. And so what Spirit taught me and then, so there’s just, it’s taught me a new one, but the earth and sky masculine, feminine is a beautiful one to do now in the evening and before. So you want to like and you can do it. If you can’t stand, you know, there’s plenty of people that are in bed. They can do it in bed. You can do it sitting. You can do it, but if you can stand, stand next to your bed. And this is God. This is light, you know, through the top, through your head, right? And the earth, feminine energy. We, so we use our breath and Spirits that. Count to seven in, nice and slow, through your nose, hold it for one. Blow it out for seven. Nice and slow. Not, because you’re going to get dizzy and all this other, you know, but that’s not the point. It’s this nice, slow. And when you exhale, you want to just say, “I’m exhaling anything that no longer serves me.” You don’t even need to know what it is because Spirit knows what it is and you have help their help.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

This is a beautiful thing about this breathing the light. It’s important to know it’s not just another breathing exercise, which are powerful. They’re all powerful. You know, breathing’s powerful.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

Having an intention to be healthy is powerful and to heal yourself. But this breathing the light, when you get in the space of just you stand there and when you stand there with the intention that they spoke about a few minutes ago, you are literally, might as well be whistling to them because just the standing there with the intention is calling everybody forward. They’re all around you anyway. But what is it that you, they’re like, “Okay, what do you need?” I need anything that no longer serves me to leave my space, whatever it is. And in any given moment, you might be feeling shame, right? So I’m releasing shame. I’m releasing doubt. I’m releasing anything that is not love and compassion. I’m releasing everything. And you go all the way down here and we bring them. 

It’s masculine God energy, thank you, is from the top and we bring this down to our belly button, our power source, and we hold it there. We cleanse, we do, you know, the long version. We bring the light to our heart. We bring the light to all of our organs, which I want to talk about in a minute. And we bring the earth feminine energy up through our legs in the same way with the breathing in for seven, exhaling, we bring it up. And when you, if you know that you’ve experienced trauma, sexual trauma, for instance, spend some time there. Love, just move, and No, no, no. I don’t believe any of the things that I believe because of that. It doesn’t. I’m powerful. 

Anything else is a lie, right. It’s a lie. And so move that out of my space. And we bring the feminine to meet the mass, the powerful God masculine energy, which is the most powerful, vulnerable energy you’ll ever feel. They meet together. And then they swirl clockwise, very important, they swirl clockwise together. And then you put your hands and you’ll feel. And when the first time I did this, my Spirit said, “If we begin, we all begin doing this and owning our power and clearing our density, our stagnation and our lack of love for each other and ourselves. We can literally move mountains.”

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, amazing.

 

Bobbi Vogel

And I always shown it. That we can, if we willed it to be true, we could do it.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah. That’s awesome, Bobbi, Hey Bobbi, where do people find that breathing exercise and where can they find out more about you and your work?

 

Bobbi Vogel

Well Etheric Medicine, E T H E R I C Medicine.com. There’s link through my breath the light. And also I’d love for you to offer, I just put together a gratitude journal as a gift,

 

Tom McCarthy

Awesome

 

Bobbi Vogel

Which would be, I would love for people to have seven day because gratitude shifts their whole life as well, right.

 

Tom McCarthy

Right.

 

Bobbi Vogel

That’s a powerful vibration. And you know, so even having gratitude for density being called cancer or anything else

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah, yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

is like flip it. What is it about?

 

Tom McCarthy

Right, right.

 

Bobbi Vogel

You know, and how can we go through this? Yeah.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah. Well and when somebody has that illness, you know, keep in mind what you talked about at the very beginning as Spirit, you chose to go in to have experiences like that so you could heal. It’s really just this beautiful healing process. You know, we get so addicted to thinking this is who I am. This body is who I am. That’s just what you’re inhabiting. You know, that’s your physical vehicle to go through, you know, this planetary existence that you have, but you’re way more than that. I mean, that was something that was especially, I was reminded of when my mom passed away and I was there with her. 

My dad passed away when I was very young. He was killed in Vietnam, but when my mom passed away, we were in the room and literally, you know, watched her take her last breath and then looked at the body and just said, you know, just knew, that was not my mom. That body was what she, you know, her Spirit was in. But you can almost feel with that last breath, her Spirit, you know, rising out of that body and being free of that body. That body served her while she was here. But now it wasn’t time to be in there anymore.

 

Bobbi Vogel

Exactly.

 

Tom McCarthy

This is really deep stuff, but very, very powerful and so necessary to understand if people want to heal, because otherwise they just look at themselves as a science experiment, okay. You know, operate on this or give me this pill and let’s see what’s going on. And that, you weren’t born to get, you weren’t born into this body or come in to this body just to get, you know, other people, you know, doing things to you.

 

Bobbi Vogel

Right.

 

Tom McCarthy

You were born to learn through it. And that’s what you’re helping people do. So I love that.

 

Bobbi Vogel

And that your body is really important to understand because I know that people go first go to, well, a lot of people, go to a place of like, my body is failing, you know?

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

And the other big thing is I hear people say, “Well, if it’s God’s will for me to live.” And that is such a huge, that is not God’s will. And I know that’s a tough one it’s, it’s our, it’s our will, we have the power, right. And healing doesn’t always mean staying.

 

Tom McCarthy

Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

Bobbi Vogel

You said that about your mom and it’s incredible. There’s so much to talk about, but it’s, you know, I’ve helped a lot of people leave their bodies and crossover, all ages, children, you know, which is, of course, that’s a hard thing. But to know that the minute we leave the limitation of the human mind, because I have watched it and I’ve talked and I’ve heard the wisdom and the teachings from children leaving their body filled with cancer. When they’re leaving, they’re already in their higher self, helping their parents relieve some of the pain, because they’re not limited by the fear and all the things that were. They’re already understanding why they were experiencing what they are experiencing.

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

And that short period of time they were here was all they were supposed to be here for.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

And it’s incredible to know that, yeah, I mean, this is such an illusion, although, you know, so your body isn’t doing anything, you’re not being punished. And you’re, this is a powerful, powerful opportunity for connection with source and your own soul.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

That’s all, this is meant to bring you to your own connection to self first and then your peeps and all there is.

 

Tom McCarthy

So let me ask you a question, Bobbi. So, because like you said, like not everybody is going to have the, you know, from the human perspective, the perfect healing, it’s all perfect from the Spiritual sense. But can somebody use their team and, you know, breathe in light and optimize their life at a higher level so there is less pain? They’re still learning the lessons, but less, let’s say call it physical, mental, emotional pain? Is that possible for people?

 

Bobbi Vogel

Oh, yes. I mean, I, you know, I keep, there’s, I have a picture sitting here that I drew for somebody that found me through the Global cancer symposium, who was first laying flat on her back, a young woman. First time she came on session with me via Zoom, she was flat on her back. She could barely turn and look at me. She has a density being called cancer in her spine, in her liver, you know, and couldn’t even stand up more than a minute at a time. And she just left today on a road trip, in an RV with her family to hike, to do this.

 

Tom McCarthy

No, wow.

 

Bobbi Vogel

And she got, there’s a beautiful picture of what Spirit showed in her last session which is, so her tumors are shrinking. And he said, “Well, it’s interesting.” The doctor even said, ?My ego wants to have a explanation for this, but I, what’s happening?” And she told him, and he said, “It isn’t, it’s like the only way to explain it is it’s not so much the size that’s shrinking as much as the density of it is different.” And he didn’t even understand what he was saying in the moment.

 

Tom McCarthy

Right, right.

 

Bobbi Vogel

And it’s like it’s being pulled apart. And she, because this illness for this woman has, you know, she tearfully said, sobbing, “I am so grateful that I have gone through this because I never knew the power of my own soul or that I had the team

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah, yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

and I rely on them and call on them. And they get me through.” And her, the density in her spine that was keeping her flat.

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

He gave her tools ’cause it’s, it’s hers. As I said, it’s specific to each person, but the tumor, the doctor said the tumor there has shrunk. He said, but there’s these cystic something-somethings, whatever, these other little, sort of cysty things that are, you know, going up and off to the left and it’s. So I drew this picture.

 

Tom McCarthy

Like leaving the body?

 

Bobbi Vogel

Yes, because Spirit explained that the toxins, the work that she’s doing

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah 

 

Bobbi Vogel

and that her whole life has changed. Her marriage has changed.

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

Her relationships with her kids has changed. She was a workaholic.

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

That they’ve packaged, they, because she’s devout to her journey and her healing and her life and her soul, they’re packaging the toxins and some of that density into these. They’re just cysts. They’re not cancerous.

 

Tom McCarthy

Right, right.

 

Bobbi Vogel

But they’re leaving.

 

Tom McCarthy

Uh huh, interesting, yeah.

 

Bobbi Vogel

And she’s like walking,

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

like up you know, doing too much actually,

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

She has to be told, “Knock it off.”

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, well this, yeah, this has been amazing Bobbi. And I know you’ve blown some people’s minds and hopefully, you know, there’s people that already believe in what you’re talking about. And then people that are maybe new to it. If you’re new to it and it’s challenging your thoughts, that’s a good thing. Explore it. See if it’s something that you’d like to delve deeper into. And then there’s resources with Bobbi and Bobbi, I know you do, you’re starting to do group sessions and you do individual sessions, of course. Let’s kind of end on the group sessions. So, group sessions, you have several people on a Zoom and it must be interesting for you to see all the, their peeps. That’s a lot of peeps, right, together?

 

Bobbi Vogel

It is, it’s funny cause I’m doing one in, you know, in an hour. My first one since I got back from my trips here.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah. 

 

Bobbi Vogel

I’m just, I’m vibrating with excitement about it because it is such a profound experience. And I, you know, the level of gratitude, it’s so humbling because to see that all everybody’s peeps show up and loved ones, of course, but that angel shuffle, like whatever people need is in the space. And I,

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah, yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

of course I call everyone because we have to ask them to step forward. It’s a Spiritual law, right. So I asked them before I even get on, “Hey, you know,” because Spirit brought their peeps to me, you know, they put them in front of me. That’s how it works. So I know that there’s something that I’m being asked to do

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, yeah

 

Bobbi Vogel

on behalf of Spirit. And so I just wrap everyone in light and call everybody forward and immediately it’s like, everybody’s got, you know, it’s funny. They just said, you know how some kids have a para in school if they have like learning disability or you know, behavior, they have somebody that’s with them all day at school. It’s funny. They’ve never used that analogy. That it’s like that, it’s like they come in, they’re there in front of me. They don’t know that they’re totally like surrounded by their peeps,

 

Tom McCarthy

yeah their guide.

 

Bobbi Vogel

Yeah, yeah, yeah and Spirit is cleansing them, sending light through, loving on them, you know, stepping forward, putting their arms around them, and whatever it is that people need is what shows up and it’s out profound.

 

Tom McCarthy

Yeah, that’s awesome.

 

Bobbi Vogel

And then to be able to see the etheric body and where density resides in people, and do, do, do, you know, giving whatever message is meant to be given to them. It’s just, it’s unbelievable.

 

Tom McCarthy

Well, and one of the, I think the most powerful message beyond anything you said is just the fact that you’re not alone. No one’s alone. You can be in the depths of despair. You can feel like it’s the worst time anyone has ever experienced, but you know, Bobbi’s words are, you know, you’ve got, you’ve got people there to support you. Call on them. Ask for help. And to me, that’s just so empowering and so warming. So that’s just beautiful Bobbi. Bobbi, thank you so much for being on with us. I know you’ve helped a lot of people and I know a lot of people will be wanting to find out more about your work at ethericmedicine.com. But thank you so much, Bobbi really appreciate you being on.

 

Bobbi Vogel

Thank you Tom. This is wonderful. I appreciate it.