Full Transcript 0:00 Statistically, we see a huge percentage of calories consumed and simple carbohydrates typically at night before bed. 0:07 And that's a big driver of waking because you're going to bed on those calories that are being stored as adipose. 0:14 Welcome to the Holistic Truth Podcast. 0:16 I'm Jamie Dorley, CEO of Nutritional Frontiers. 0:19 and I am Christine Genovese, creator of the Soul Intelligence Method. 0:23 We're here to help you break through chronic disease and dysfunction physically, mentally, emotionally and energetically. 0:30 with real proven strategies, protocols and tools you can use in your practice today. 0:35 Hello, everyone, and welcome back. 0:37 We're live on your favorite podcast for natural healing and wellness. 0:43 This is the holistic truth. 0:45 Can you handle the truth, Christine Genovese? 0:48 Absolutely, I can. 0:50 It's why I'm here. 0:51 we are on a mission to make the world healthy in every way, physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, energetically, 0:57 any way we can support people. 1:00 Yeah, we want to make your world and the world healthy. 1:02 I'm your host, as always, Jamie Dorley, with the co-host, the one and only, our chief growth officer at Nutritional Frontiers, 1:09 and, The creator of the soul intelligence and movie star, Hollywood. 1:15 Welcome back from Hollywood, Christine. 1:17 How we doing? 1:18 I'm doing great, Jayme. 1:19 I am pretty excited. 1:21 Lots of really good things going on in my life. 1:23 There's a movie coming out in theaters near you very soon called The Pillars of Power, and it's How to Live Your Best Life. 1:30 And we talk about all kinds of pillars, whether it be relationship or finances to health and mental health, right? 1:39 And so I so excited about today's guest because he certainly represents at least two of those five pillars in the work that he does in We expanded into 1:52 New England a few years ago and we had about 10 people at this really cool, intimate steakhouse and there was one gentleman there, 2:00 a young gentleman, and I think he knew the product line better than some of our team did. 2:06 So as we were going through, I finally was like, dad, yeah, take over. 2:12 So he was in sync with our slide presentation and on top, especially the GI protocol that night and the quality control. 2:20 And I really realized very quickly, he's a strong, passionate young man. 2:27 And when I looked at his background, by no surprise, I realized why he's so smart, competitive, and knowledgeable and passionate. 2:37 He was a Division I wrestling champion. 2:40 So when you look back, wrestling is probably the hardest sport I ever did. 2:45 And what I realized when I did wrestling the first time is, first of all, there's no teammates like football. 2:51 There's not 10 other people around you to save you if you screw up. 2:55 If you screwed up, you're usually looking at the lights. 2:56 That means you are on your back getting pinned. 3:00 And I was like, oh, I can do wrestling. 3:01 This is easy. 3:02 No equipment. 3:02 We're inside. 3:03 The weather is good. 3:04 And after about an hour of a warm up, so I'm like oh my God, this is way beyond anything I thought possible. 3:12 But realizing that not only the wrestling background and I always like when athletes or people in music because It's not just the physical, 3:20 it's the discipline that you put in with tennis or me with bodybuilding and football and him with wrestling. 3:27 It is gymnastics with my daughter and lacrosse and baseball. 3:35 You know, we all want to be professionals, but most of us don't make it. 3:38 But you can apply that discipline to anything and to see him go to naturopathic school up in New England and now on the Roots Natural Medical Center. 3:48 And I believe he went to Sacred Heart University where, you know my friend, my best man's wife and my goddaughter went too. 3:56 So great background in being a natiropathy doctor. 3:59 You practice up in connecticut and he's been a speaker for us of the world of wellness so nice warm welcome for doctor zachary moran how we doing doc i'm 4:10 great thanks for having me. 4:12 I was so excited to have you on the show i know there's quite a few topics that we wanted to talk about today. 4:18 but before we jump into probably bone joint inflammation, can you give us a little more expanded background? 4:24 How did you even get into naturopathic medicine? 4:27 Because some people don't even know what it is yet, right? 4:30 And people usually think of medical routes, usually someone in their family or personal experience. 4:35 What got you lit up about natiropathy medicine. 4:39 Yeah, you're right. 4:41 Connecticut, New England area, we're still growing in the holistic side of medicine, We're still growing the functional side of medicine. 4:49 Where I grew up, I was blessed to be in a family where my father was conventionally trained, but also trained as a DO overseas in Europe, 4:59 which is a little different than a do in the States. 5:02 So he had a pretty good background on how to manually address a lot of physical ailments. 5:09 But we grew with a focus on nutrition, health, physically active. 5:15 And then as I went through pre-med in undergrad and then started to pursue some residency opportunities, some shadowing opportunities with conventional doctors, 5:25 I soon realized that the conventional space did not jive with a lot of the things that I had wanted in my career. 5:32 A lot it was management of medicine. 5:34 And a of it standardized and it really wasn't offering optimal health. 5:40 It was more reactive. 5:45 attendings that I was shadowing were, they really did not advise pursuing the field, we'll put it that way. 5:54 They were pretty straightforward in that they said it was probably not in my best interest to pursue medicine, which I think was really- Ouch. 6:04 Yeah, despite them being large figures in the field, surgeons and they were like, this is a field that doesn't have the same rewarding principles it once had. 6:17 And so that pushed me into a feel that allowed me to pursue something more from a health and fitness perspective, which is where my background was. 6:26 I was an athlete and at the time I also was pursuing a competitive CrossFit career. 6:32 And I wanted to know more about how to improve health and fitness. 6:36 Naturopathic school has a lot of nutrition, has lot health aspects too outside of just the medical field. 6:43 It bridges the gap between disease and health. 6:48 Pursuing it was just perfect for me and from there I was able to apply it to my own health, to family's health in all the patients I've seen since. 6:59 That's awesome. 7:00 I guess that, you know, they saved you a lot of money, maybe. 7:05 Time, energy, and effort. 7:07 Because we spend an awful lot time helping to educate those that are in allopathic medicine to make that transition to naturopathic and find that happy medium, 7:17 right, where it all fits together. 7:19 So what are some of the areas that you focus on specifically at your practice? 7:24 Like, what do people come to see you for? 7:27 Yeah, good question. 7:30 I predominantly focus in complex chronic disease. 7:34 So I see a lot of chronic infectious disease like tick-borne illnesses. 7:48 I typically see patients that don't have or have exhausted a lot of the traditional routes and they're looking for help that isn't available to them. 7:58 20, 30 year histories of debilitating conditions. 8:02 More recently, we're seeing a whole lot more in the mast cell activation category, mold toxicity category and a ton of toxicities have increased recently. 8:13 It's a field that I really wasn't prone to initially. 8:16 In medical school, I was much more in the regenerative spaces. 8:19 We're doing injection therapies with stem cells and musculoskeletal conditions. 8:23 And that was the pursuit because of my background in fitness that i was trying to pursue. 8:30 Once I got out into practice, the demand for these inflammatory conditions and answers for the inflammatory condition was so high. 8:39 that patients were asking for help and I was just, I couldn't say no. 8:43 And so at that point I pursued more of the field I'm currently in. 8:47 So right now I practice in Connecticut, on the Eastern side of Connecticut and we're seeing a lot of patients who just don't have options to addressing 8:59 root causes. 8:59 That's what we are trying to offer. 9:02 I love that, hence the name Roots Natural Medical Center, right? 9:05 I loved that. 9:07 And we always say, don't run for the cure. 9:08 You'll be running forever, but run the cause. 9:12 Often, as I learned from your background, you share the same focus that we do. 9:17 Stress, toxicity, nutritional deficiencies, lack of movement, and genetics really can be tied into anything, any of the things that people are coming in with. 9:29 Luckily, he really just made a great point is you give people hope. 9:34 You know, years ago when we started Nutritional Frontiers, I was doing consults three days a week to really get back in the front line and learn more about 9:42 the patient's journey through an office. 9:45 And oftentimes they're to come in and say, I've tried everything. 9:48 I'm sure you've heard this. 9:49 Nothing's working. 9:50 And I like, well, you tried, everything that you know, but you haven't been here yet. 9:54 But I love the fact that he gives people hope, especially for these more complex patients, years ago, when I was an ACSM personal trainer. 10:05 I would tell people, look, I can work you out and put you on a diet in four months, and get you in pretty decent shape, regardless of how you come in. 10:14 Gosh, now it's completely different. 10:17 I mean, the diet and training is not enough anymore. 10:20 So what are some of the evaluation tools that you find to be most important or most useful for your patients coming in because I think in functional medicine, 10:30 we went from no testing years ago or AK or the observation, you know, the physical testing the old days that is still very valid. 10:39 And then I think we over tested genetic MTHFR. 10:44 You know, you need all these crazy tests and it became thousands and thousands of dollars. 10:48 And I. 10:48 Some doctors, um, fell in a trap of treating the tests. 10:53 I dig where the pendulum is kind of swinging back here where we're settling in. 10:57 So what are your thoughts on testing and what is it the journey for the patient look like? 11:02 Because really for when we want to make the world healthy, the number one thing we gotta do is give people hope. 11:09 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 11:10 And unfortunately, a lot of the patients that I've seen, number 15, 16, 25, 35, I remember doctors that they've see and, 11:19 you know, they'd done a lotta protocols both conventionally and allopathically and functionally trying to get to their cause. 11:26 And like you said, a lot of patients come in with various routine and specialty tests and they may have yielded some answers, 11:37 maybe some results, but it really, the process for me largely comes down to answering and asking enough questions. 11:48 So it starts with the history. 11:51 my intake process is annoyingly lengthy. 11:56 You sound like my friend Jacqueline Shedden. 11:58 When I first took hers, I put funny answers in to see if she would read the whole thing. 12:04 You're qualifying to see if they'll even be compliant with the paperwork, right? 12:10 Yeah. 12:10 Absolutely. 12:11 Yeah, and if I'm trying to uncover, you know, 20 years of chronic complex disease, I need to trace it back to some level of, 12:22 is this an origin? 12:23 Is this ongoing? 12:27 So a lot of times we'll have a 20 plus page intake which I preview for at least in half an hour to an our before the patient comes in and then we will 12:37 have sit down conversation surrounding their current conditions and the current symptoms. 12:42 It gives the patients an opportunity to kind of express what they're experiencing and from that i can really get a good gauge of where the problem resides. 12:53 And from there there's diagnostic opportunities for us to pursue whether it's a specialty test or blood work or something of that nature. 13:01 What a completely different experience. 13:03 I want to hold that point for a minute because people listening out there. 13:07 Folks, he takes a half hour to an hour before you come in to actually review your paperwork. 13:14 How many times have we all got into a doctor's office? 13:17 And you can tell he or she is way behind schedule. 13:21 They're flipping through your chart to see why you're here today, right? 13:26 They spend zero time. 13:28 I think a lot of this has to do with the medical third-party insurance reimbursable platform and system that we've all been a victim of, 13:39 Because in, you know, in defense of the doctor, she doesn't have time because the insurance company just cut her 20%. Now she has 20% less time to spend 13:49 with you. 13:49 She's got to spending with more and more patients and their hook is get that, diagnosis code. 13:55 And then what is the medication that they're going to recommend? 13:58 So what are some of those tests? 14:00 I mean, take a tremendous amount of time. 14:02 Are there a couple of tests that you say, these are two I gotta do on everybody? 14:07 What is it? 14:08 Yeah, so we're very conscious of trying to be, um, efficient for the patients. 14:14 The knee, most patients come in with some type of insurance in Connecticut. 14:18 We able to run blood work, uh, through insurance most of the time. 14:21 So it gives us a good idea. 14:22 Um, I am notorious for being a vampire when it comes to blood works. 14:26 I make sure that patients are, are capable of handling bloodwork at 15 to 20 vials. 14:34 And we'll make that. 14:36 We get a lot of information. 14:37 Yeah. 14:40 So, but it's a good tool. 14:42 We run a lotta blood work that most doctors have never seen before. 14:45 And so, that comes as a great tool for our patients. 14:52 Then we'll run some other diagnostics, pending the conditions. 14:54 You can do specialty kits for infectious disease, gastrointestinal stool testing, urine testing. 15:00 There's lot different types of hormone testing that we utilize. 15:04 But we're really trying to address each individual patient and their current concerns. 15:09 So it's highly individualized. 15:11 But I will say nowadays, patients, I think maybe 85 plus percent of my patients have a need for gastrointestinal support. 15:25 Yeah, that would make sense. 15:28 Everything begins and ends in the gut. 15:29 I Think we heard that from some guy a few 2000 years ago, maybe. 15:34 Just Socrates, I think had that, or Hippocrates, one of the two. 15:37 It's some Greek guy. 15:39 Yeah. 15:41 And there's a truth to it too. 15:43 There is. 15:45 Well, when I look at it energetically, because that's what I do, right? 15:48 I'm looking for the underlying emotional energetic root cause, and I totally relate to when you say you feel like you're the last stop on the magical mystery 15:56 tour of health, people are like, well, i've tried everything else. 15:59 I might as well try this, You know, I really talk about it because it is the core of who you are, right? 16:06 Like your gut is in the center of your being, just in your middle of you. 16:10 And that is first thing that gets struck. 16:14 It's actually where our self-esteem is housed in our gut, in that core. 16:20 We talk of serotonin, the happy hormones produced there. 16:24 So when you take a hit, you're taking it right in a gut and if you think about If you have to go do like a speech or something, 16:31 you might get butterflies in your stomach or if something really bad happens, do you feel like you get like punched in the gut? 16:38 There's a reason for that. 16:39 That is really the core of who we are and our center, our self-esteem, how we show up in That's usually the first place that gets hit and that's where 16:47 a lot of the energy gets stored. 16:48 So from an energetic perspective, it makes complete sense to me why we would typically begin and end in the gut. 16:55 Now, speaking of that, when I think about it's summertime and the got and core of who we are, I'm starting to think like weight loss. 17:05 And how do we look good getting to the beach and being outside and staying in shape? 17:10 And I know besides all of those chronic conditions that you treat that weight loss and the hormone connection is something you're also really focused on 17:19 and passionate about. 17:19 So why don't you tell us a little bit about that side of your practice? 17:24 Yeah, it's a big driver for a lot of the reason people come in. 17:27 They're extremely fatigued, they've got gastrointestinal inflammation, hormonal imbalances, and weight gain as a result of all of those. 17:37 So as we look at weight in general, patients that come and say, hey, I would like to lose some weight and I don't really know why I can't. 17:47 The first place and the most obvious place to look is the metabolic conditioning, right? 17:53 what we're calorically ingesting, how we are ingest it, what type of macronutrients we ingested. 17:58 Every calorie is not the same, right? 18:00 We can say that there is, but there's a difference in our quality of food consumption and our metabolic expenditure or exercise. 18:07 So first place to look is making sure our Metabolic health is sufficient. 18:12 A lot of that comes to do with how you're eating and what you are eating. 18:17 But on top of that, a lot of patients will come and they say, regardless of what I eat, how much I can't lose weight. 18:25 In that situation, you have to look at inflammatory conditions because inflammation is a big contributor to fluid retention and that will hold fluid regardless 18:34 what you're eating or what your not eating. 18:36 And then another very large component that I see typically with weight gain is hormonal weight game. 18:41 Um, and a lot of it's cortisol driven. 18:43 A lot. 18:44 Patients nowadays have tremendous hormonal roller coasters with cortisol. 18:50 Um sleep disturbances are a product of that. 18:52 Fatigue is a project of. 18:54 And cortisol is another very strong contributor to fluid retention, adipose contributing, um, it drives up blood sugar. 19:01 So we'll see a. 19:03 Changes affecting weight gain. 19:06 and weight changes. 19:08 So we try and address comprehensively all three. 19:12 And that's where we have the results, making sure that there isn't an underlying variable contributing to their weight. 19:18 Metabolic inflammation and stress in cortisol. 19:24 See, that's what I was referring to earlier. 19:26 Like years ago, you didn't have all the pro-inflammatory foods. 19:30 People weren't quite as stressed out, even though their lifestyle may have been harder. 19:34 I think this overwhelming indulgence in TV, news, propaganda, social media, all these things have created more and more stress for people. 19:46 And technology was supposed to allow us to work from anywhere, but not everywhere. 19:53 I recently had a colleague, you know, wanted to call us in from a funeral home. 19:58 I was like, no, that's not a place to make a phone call for work, okay? 20:05 So, we had an event with Dr. 20:08 Silva was speaker. 20:09 He's a DO and he was talking about metabolic syndrome. 20:12 And he talked about cortisol. 20:14 The first time I really heard it put this way, like you just said, cortisol is a fat storage hormone, especially when it spikes at night. 20:22 Can you elaborate a little more on that and, you know, why are people having low cortisol in the morning and high at and affecting sleep? 20:30 Yeah. 20:31 So typically just for basic physiology purposes, cortisol is supposed to spike shortly after waking. 20:36 It's not just your stress hormone, but it's your waking hormone. 20:40 Its supposed regulate your ability to perceive external stimulus. 20:46 Light, sound, smells, food. 20:49 When you see the sunlight come up, your cortisol supposed rise. 20:52 There's a direct correlation there. 20:54 And so for most people, we're not on a biological clock anymore. 20:59 They're on work clock now. 21:01 And, so that influences a lot of our cortisol. 21:04 The screens, the blue lights, stressors working out too late at night, eating too later at. 21:10 You're going to drive a cortisol at the wrong time. 21:12 That influences your sleep, which is how we see sleep disturbances. 21:16 And then in addition, inflammation is also a cortisol driver. 21:19 So if you're harboring chronic inflammation from what you are consuming or chronic infections, your cortisol will constantly be spiking throughout the 21:28 day and even at night. 21:30 And you see, look at things like sleep apnea, right? 21:32 If you can't breathe, you gonna be a little stressed. 21:35 If can sleep well. 21:37 Sounds about right. 21:39 Yeah. 21:41 Although I envisioned someone's hands wrapped around my neck when he said you Yeah, let me adjust your pillow. 21:47 We've heard that before from the spouse, right? 21:49 Permanently. 21:50 Yeah. 21:53 So, I mean, you can see all the chronic cortisol drivers, not to mention just life. 21:59 I, mean nowadays people are working more than ever. 22:01 There's not a lot of time where we're having community to down regulate. 22:04 Cortisol doesn't get dropped. 22:06 And then you gotta get this chronic burnout presentation where we're getting cortisol to upregulate to the point where it's driving blood sugar elevation, 22:16 which is what it intended to do in times of fight or flight. 22:20 So if we get chronic elevations blood, sugar goes up. 22:23 insulin goes up, we end up storing fat, storing adipose in times of, because if you're driving a blood glucose, but you are not actually running from the bear, 22:33 you aren't burning off the glucose and you store it. 22:36 So you end it with an adepose condition. 22:39 Well, it's interesting. 22:41 I read recently that most people go through a fight or flight response an average of 16 times a day. 22:50 Back in the day, It was just a couple. 22:53 But that can come from just like a text you get on your cell phone or an email that gets you, oh my gosh, I got to respond. 23:00 You know, it's crazy when you start thinking about that. 23:04 No wonder we can't calm down. 23:05 Our vagal nerve is crazy and we've got all this inflammation, our body's on constant high alert. 23:11 So do you have any, you know kind of lifestyle tips or protocols that you usually use with people that are in constant, high stress like that? 23:22 Yeah. 23:22 And oftentimes patients come to me with years of this brewing where it's now a habitual learned response. 23:31 The autonomic nervous system is now trained into that sympathetic state. 23:36 So it takes some time of rewiring to untrain that response, right? 23:43 But from a lifestyle standpoint, one of the most important things you can do is get back on that biological clock. 23:50 Are you having good sleeping cycles, waking cycles? 23:52 Trying to get the body back into parasympathetic, um, breath work, activity, sunlight, grounding, sick routine retrains the system. 24:03 And then we'll supplement in addition to that to support the. 24:06 Because there are a lot of times when your cortisol is drive. 24:10 elevated and constantly in an overused state, you're going to deplete yourself rapidly from a mineral standpoint, from the nutrient standpoint. 24:20 A lot of the amino acids are going be depleted. 24:23 So supplementing to give your body the opportunity to get back into parasympathetic is almost an essential at this point. 24:31 Well, tell us, you know, I have to pay for the podcast. 24:34 Tell us what are some of your favorite nutritional frontier supplements that you put people on in terms of protocol? 24:40 Yeah, so I will use adrenal support typically in the morning. 24:46 We use the adrenal glandular. 24:49 Plus, we'll combine it typically with the Adrenamax, which will have the herbal component in addition to the glandula. 24:59 And we'll dose those according to the patient's needs. 25:01 So there's a reference dosing on the bottle, but that's generic based upon the average individual. 25:09 Some patients are going to need a lot more based on their current situation. 25:15 And then we will use a bunch of the multivitamins and magnesium complete and a bunch of other supports to help nutritionally support the resources for 25:26 the adrenals on top of the herbals to stimulate them. 25:29 That's the morning protocol to give them the resource to make the cortisol. 25:34 And then in the evening, night time, we'll use calm day and sleep time to re-regulate their biological clock to get them to sleep at night. 25:43 And that's usually a pretty effective regimen to get them back into biology within three to four weeks. 25:50 I love it, it sounds like my protocol. 25:51 Adrenomax, adrenal glandular, frontier multi, super B in the morning. 25:57 And then I do a calm day, sleep time, and mad complete at night. 26:06 It works really well, I loved the fact that you really pointed out, you know, therapeutic dosing. 26:12 I think some people are so depleted and they may not take enough. 26:16 They may take one capsule because they're afraid. 26:18 So what's your thoughts on therapeutic dosing? 26:23 Yeah. 26:24 If you look at the comparison of the adrenal glandular versus what conventional systems will use for adrenal insufficiency with hydrocortisone, 26:36 you can take substantial amounts I've had patients use the adrenal glandular up to 10 capsules throughout the morning. 26:48 So from waking to about six hours into their day for short term to get them back to sustainability. 26:55 But those are patients who are in a position where they have a medical diagnosis of adrenal insufficiency and they're relying on steroids to kind of get 27:05 awake and survive the day. 27:08 pending the need of the patient, and we've been able to reverse a lot of those conditions by supporting the adrenals sufficiently to kickstart them back 27:16 into production. 27:18 I love it. 27:19 Up to 10 per day. 27:20 That gives me, hold on, I go grab a couple more I guess. 27:24 Boy. 27:27 Yeah, it's interesting. 27:28 Um, and then calm days sometimes during the day, depending on what kind of a day I'm having. 27:39 And then at night, I use the Adrenamax because I learned from Dr. 27:42 Lin that it's an adaptogen. 27:44 So it'll dial the cortisol up or down as you need it, which I think is super cool. 27:49 And I also, I religiously take format complete every night, but I got to watch when I take them. 27:54 Because if I decide to sit down and watch something, you know, just zone out, maybe like a discovery episode or a documentary, 28:03 like in 20 minutes, it hits me and I'm done. 28:06 It totally relaxes me. 28:08 Yeah. 28:08 Magnesium is one of those things that at this point in time, almost every single individual needs to be supplementing. 28:15 There's just not enough of it in our food. 28:19 And there is just a huge need for it from our lifestyle standpoint. 28:23 So everyone could benefit from magnesium at some threshold. 28:27 Yeah, we agree. 28:28 It's actually gotten to our number five seller in the company. 28:31 So top five, it's crept its way up there. 28:34 And you mentioned multi, our woman's complete to number three seller. 28:39 I think people need to know that because sometimes they discount the importance of a multi. 28:44 Even though the American Medical Association said back in JAMA, June 28, 2002, everyone needs a multivitamin regardless of age or health condition. 28:53 That research was done at Harvard School of Medicine. 28:57 right down the block from you. 28:59 And then when you look at magnesium, the research all shows for the last 10 years, that's the number one nutritional deficiency in the world is magnesium. 29:09 Now the challenge is, from where we are, is that there's no shortage of magnesium in a market. 29:14 They can buy it from the grocery store, a vitamin shop, or a professional company like Nutritional Frontiers. 29:20 When we say professional folks, we deal with healthcare professionals like Dr. 29:24 Moran here. 29:26 The difference is these lower level magnesiums are different forms. 29:32 I think people get caught too much in the dose. 29:35 Someone was asking me last night at a dinner, well, how much magnesium is in there? 29:38 I said, look, it's elemental magnesium. 29:41 So I just want to review for everybody. 29:44 You have mag oxide, which is the lowest bioavailable form. 29:49 It's almost ground up rocks and that's very difficult to absorb. 29:53 However, you can put 500 milligrams in one capsule. 29:57 So it has a higher dose, but the form is poor and the bioavailability is port. 30:02 Then you have citrate, which is really good for constipation, muscle cramps, something like that. 30:10 And then you the amino acid chelates like maglycinate and then The fourth level, which we use, is the bisglycinate. 30:19 So two glycine molecules covalently bonded to the magnesium, therefore bioavailable in all tissue, and you get a much more therapeutic result at a smaller dose. 30:32 Four caps of ours will yield 300 milligrams of elemental, highly absorbable form of magnesium versus that one cap at 500 milligram, 30:45 Yeah, it's a big distinguish dose because most people, when they go to CVS or Costco or somewhere, they're grabbing over the counter magnesium and because 30:57 the in expense of magnesium oxide, that's typically the one you'll see. 31:01 So make sure you're noted what you kind of are getting. 31:05 Yeah, it's cheap and they can put a lot in one cap. 31:08 They see the mag oxide. 31:10 It's 500 milligrams. 31:11 Oh, Dr. 31:12 Marantz would tell me to take 500 mg. 31:15 His is too expensive. 31:16 I'm going to go buy this one for a fraction of the cost. 31:20 But we always say the most expensive vitamin is one that does not work. 31:24 And when you look at forms, it is imperative to your success that you follow doctor's recommendation on these and get the high quality supplementation. 31:35 I always say, hey, work on your budget and other areas versus trying to skimp out on health because it's going to determine the result you get. 31:44 And the same goes with the food. 31:46 The amount of pro-inflammatory foods I see people eating is shocking. 31:52 What is some of the most common culprits that will drive cortisol up at night? 31:56 And then also, what are some ones that I would say stay away from that are driving up the inflammation? 32:05 Yeah. 32:06 And this is a very common problem because if you look at people who are chronically fatigued, cortisol is not rising sufficiently in the morning by midday, 32:14 you've got little left and you're looking for coffee or carbohydrates mid day for that crash to help sustain your energy. 32:23 By the time nighttime comes, your back to zero cortisol. 32:28 But the problem is, is that you have. 32:32 to finish out your day, it's 5 p.m., you can't go to sleep, right? 32:35 You've got kids or anything else to do, dinner or whatever. 32:38 And so what happens is is that when you stay up past that crashing point of cortisol, you end up craving glucose because your cortisol is insufficient 32:49 and you're looking for simple carbohydrates. 32:51 So that's gonna be simple sugars like ice cream or cookies or chips or something that is going to give you that glucose that your body is no longer able 33:03 to stimulate with cortisol. 33:04 And statistically, we see a huge percentage of calories consumed and simple carbohydrates typically at night before bed. 33:13 That's a big driver of waking because you're going to bed on those calories that are being stored as adipose. 33:20 Wow, that is a clip right there that could change America. 33:23 I'm not joking. 33:24 Well, you just said so eloquently in 30 seconds, sums up 90% of people that came in to see me as a trainer 30 years ago and probably close to a hundred percent. 33:34 Now they could present with any kind of chronic condition, but right exactly what you said, the caffeine, don't forget nicotine, 33:43 high fructose corn syrup. 33:46 Um, that people are constantly craving and, you know, they're, crash in the morning. 33:52 They crash any afternoon and night to get this extra spike after they consume all these comfort foods. 33:58 And they wonder why they've tried everything and all they do when they, before they come in to see you is cut back a little bit on the volume of food or 34:06 cut out the ice cream or start an exercise program for a few weeks. 34:09 It's not going to do it. 34:10 I got to change your metabolic rate. 34:12 In fact, Harvard released, um, research. 34:15 about two or three years ago, right after Tufts University came out with the food scores, which had like Cheerios number three and canned peaches number two, 34:25 like the worst possible things people could eat. 34:29 So what Harvard did is looked at, what are the three really underlying causes of this? 34:34 One is their metabolic rate, so you got excellent metabolism, but it's also you can change your metabolic rate, right? 34:45 And then the second thing is obviously the quality of food that they eat. 34:49 A calorie is not a calorie, folks. 34:52 100 calories from broccoli versus 100 calorie from a Snickers, probably have to be the fun size, is completely different than what it does to your metabolism. 35:02 But the third really key thing what they found is that the ecology of the microbiome, And we found that fascinating. 35:10 That's really the missing component for a lot of people. 35:14 So when they're feeding it sugar, they usually load it with candida and parasites and bacteria and some of these other things affecting their metabolic rate. 35:23 What are some the most common offending foods? 35:27 Or products that people eat when they come in that puts him in this pro-inflammatory state that they think is healthy. 35:33 I always found it funny when someone come and, oh, what do you eat, Christine? 35:37 I'll eat cereal for breakfast. 35:39 And I'm like, What? 35:39 No, it's Cheerios with skim milk. 35:43 Worse. 35:44 We actually had a book in the wellness center called Cereal, like C-E-R- E-A-L, Killer. 35:50 Yeah. 35:51 It was, it was a bowl of cereal. 35:55 And it would tell you how, you know, these big lobbyists, Kellogg's and Post, which actually the same people that used to own the tobacco companies, 36:03 they've invested all their money in the cereal and product companies. 36:07 You know how they really have brainwashed our society that these are healthy. 36:13 Um, and they may say, brand flakes or whatever these cereals are called. 36:18 but, and then the skim milk factor, I was like, oh no, no. 36:22 No, we're way off here. 36:24 So that was the one I thought I just, it's not the skin milk, It's just watered down milk. 36:31 And that one thing for me, what did you find was some of the most common ones that you say that people think are healthy and that are pro-inflammatory? 36:40 Yeah. 36:42 We are by far the overfed, undernourished country. 36:48 And what we want to look for is where are we getting nutrition? 36:53 Basically tell people, stay away from things that are tan in color, right? 36:58 So you're looking at wheat, grains, pastas, breads, rice, white potatoes, everything, mostly everything of that color is low in nutrition, 37:10 high in calories. 37:11 And so those are things are going to be nutritionally depleting instead of giving you the nutrition you need. 37:20 A lot of people actually crave more calories or more food because they're undernourished. 37:26 So if you give the body the nutrients it needs, it no longer has to seek more foods and more calorie. 37:33 You look at someone who's really obese, they actually are probably very nutrient deficient, which is a very conflicting kind of interesting idea, 37:41 but very consistent. 37:43 And so what I've done with a lot of patients is instead of trying to get them to reduce their calories, I just overfeed them nutrition. 37:51 And because of the satiating effect of high quality nutrition, we typically don't overeat. 37:57 So like for instance, at bedtime, Some protein, usually my go-to is the peanut butter super shake. 38:05 It's got fiber in it. 38:06 And it's also, I throw it with the proline greens chocolate flavor. 38:10 So I make a Reese's formulation, maybe a little bit of- Hey now, my favorite right there. 38:14 Number one of all time. 38:16 Mm-hmm. 38:16 Then a bit a ice and you got a nice smoothie milkshake before bed. 38:22 Now you're satiated and your calorically not overexpending and getting nutrition in. 38:29 I also, one of our healthcare providers recommended making it into a hot chocolate if you want something warm in the evening too. 38:37 And I was like, Ooh, that's a good idea. 38:39 You can make it even creamy with a little almond milk in it. 38:41 Delish. 38:43 Well, I can't believe it, but we are like coming up towards the end of time with you, Dr. 38:48 Moran. 38:49 I know that people have been engaged with this conversation and I'm going to encourage everybody to comment, like and share this episode with someone who 38:58 needs to hear it And Dr. 39:00 Moran, if someone wants to work with you, how do they find you? 39:03 Are you accepting new patients and can they work? 39:05 My phone's going to be blown up when we send this out. 39:09 Yes, we are seeing new patience. 39:12 We are in Connecticut. 39:14 Our website is rootsmedicalcenter.com. 39:19 And you can find us on Facebook. 39:22 Were on Instagram as well. 39:24 I try and disseminate as much information as I can. 39:28 within Reason on those social media platforms. 39:30 So feel free and follow us there. 39:31 Give us a call at the office. 39:34 Awesome. 39:35 Well, we will make sure that we have links to all of your socials in the comments. 39:39 And thank you so much for the gift of time that you gave us today and sharing all your wisdom with us. 39:45 Jane? 39:46 Yeah. 39:46 One, uh, one last, a parting shot for you. 39:49 Cause I know you got a background in exercise and so do I. 39:51 And I think people look at it as like punishment. 39:55 and I love what you said about telling them what foods to eat. 39:57 Because, you know, originally I would just tell them that they can eat and they would get pissed off. 40:02 Right. 40:02 So it's like, tell him what they. 40:04 Yeah, and he always encouraged people to do things they like to. 40:08 Even if it not really exciting that day or they feel a little tired, sore, lazy, whatever it is. 40:15 Like the exercise bike to me never works. 40:19 My butt hurts. 40:20 It doesn't do anything on my legs, but the stair master does, it's just challenging, right? 40:24 Or walking hills for me. 40:26 So what are some of the exercises you find that you tend to recommend more to someone that's maybe a beginner or, you know, 40:34 doesn' have that athletic background like you or Christine, or they look at exercise as a punishment? 40:40 Yeah. 40:41 I mean, I've worked with a lot of different patients and over my years I really realized that the opportunity physically to move, 40:53 if you're capable of moving, it's a blessing. 40:55 A lot patients don't have that opportunity. 40:57 And so I try and acknowledge that, you know, I was given the opportunity to move and be physical. 41:01 And I, uh, was giving this body to maintain. 41:06 So I think it's a perspective, right? 41:08 Movement is medicine. 41:09 Moving is essential. 41:11 If you don't move, You will end up losing the ability to. 41:15 And so number one thing is move daily and get someone to do it with you. 41:21 It's always better to to it more consistent when you're doing it someone you enjoy doing with. 41:26 And that's where community really builds consistency. 41:30 Whether it's a class, whether it is one individual. 41:34 Once that is established and there is a consistent routine to find something you enjoyed and then try and diversify from it. 41:43 I think that diversity is really a good idea when it comes to exercise. 41:46 So doing a little of everything, make sure you're getting some strength training in there. 41:49 Make sure getting duration in that whether it's a hike, whether to swim, whatever it is. 41:54 But you give an opportunity to move, utilize it. 41:59 It's fantastic advice. 42:00 I'm laughing because this morning, you know, I am back in Pittsburgh. 42:03 There's a lot of hills where I live. 42:05 So I was walking up the hill and sometimes you just don't feel like you're... 42:08 I wasn't warmed up yet, right? 42:10 Yeah. 42:10 And was getting to the top of the Hill. 42:12 Didn't make it to to park yet. 42:13 When I looked in the parking lot, there was a gentleman in a wheelchair. 42:18 And I looked at him, and I look again, he smiled. 42:21 I said, thank you God, I'm not tired, not sore. 42:24 And then I picked up the pace right away. 42:26 So I think sometimes we forget, like my buddy says, getting old is a privilege. 42:32 Being able to move is privilege and a blessing. 42:35 Thank you so much. 42:36 I got chills. 42:36 Words of wisdom from Dr. 42:38 Zachary Moran. 42:39 This guy's a fantastic naturopathic doctor. 42:42 He lives the lifestyle. 42:44 he's got a heart of gold and he so generous with his wisdom today. 42:49 So we really appreciate it. 42:51 Thank for all support, not only for the holistic truth, but also for me and Christina team and Nutritional Frontiers. 42:57 You've been a blessing to our team. 43:01 It goes both ways. 43:02 I appreciate it. 43:02 Thank you for today. 43:04 Yeah, whatever you need, you let us know. 43:05 Thanks so much to my co-host, Christine Genovese. 43:08 Look forward to seeing everyone at an event near you this summer and fall. 43:13 And as Doc says, make sure you keep moving. 43:16 Let's have a great day, a Great summer, and God bless everybody. 43:24 If this episode spoke to you, please follow the show and share it with someone ready to take charge of their wellbeing. 43:30 And if you can, leave us a review. 43:32 It helps others find our podcast. 43:34 For more tools and practitioner support, visit NutritionalFrontiers.com.
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