Full Transcript Coming Upu2026 0:01 We're not little tiny longer haired men. 0:02 We're not little tiny longer haired men. We are a full human and we deserve our 0:04 We are a full human and we deserve our 0:04 We are a full human and we deserve our own research. None of the studies that 0:05 own research. None of the studies that 0:05 own research. None of the studies that ever looked at hormone replacement has 0:07 ever looked at hormone replacement has 0:07 ever looked at hormone replacement has ever showed an increase in mortality. 0:09 ever showed an increase in mortality. 0:09 ever showed an increase in mortality. Still to this day, we're bikinis to 0:11 Still to this day, we're bikinis to 0:11 Still to this day, we're bikinis to medicine. We are reproductive organs, 0:13 medicine. We are reproductive organs, 0:13 medicine. We are reproductive organs, that's [music] it. It's not a magic 0:14 that's [music] it. It's not a magic 0:14 that's [music] it. It's not a magic pill. You have to look at the underlying 0:16 pill. You have to look at the underlying 0:16 pill. You have to look at the underlying root causes and start addressing them. 0:18 root causes and start addressing them. 0:18 root causes and start addressing them. So Betty, why are you so
Why Womenu2019s Health Research Is Broken 0:21 So Betty, why are you so 0:21 So Betty, why are you so uh passionate about women's health as a 0:23 uh passionate about women's health as a 0:23 uh passionate about women's health as a topic and what are we getting wrong 0:25 topic and what are we getting wrong 0:25 topic and what are we getting wrong about it in this day and age? Oh my 0:27 about it in this day and age? Oh my 0:27 about it in this day and age? Oh my gosh, how many hours do you have? 0:28 gosh, how many hours do you have? 0:28 gosh, how many hours do you have? >> [laughter] 0:29 >> [laughter] 0:29 >> [laughter] >> That's a loaded question. We make up 50% 0:32 >> That's a loaded question. We make up 50% 0:32 >> That's a loaded question. We make up 50% a little actually more than 50% of the 0:33 a little actually more than 50% of the 0:33 a little actually more than 50% of the population, but I think almost all of us 0:35 population, but I think almost all of us 0:35 population, but I think almost all of us are drawn to the thing that we are 0:38 are drawn to the thing that we are 0:38 are drawn to the thing that we are passionate about because of our own 0:39 passionate about because of our own 0:39 passionate about because of our own experience. 0:41 experience. 0:41 experience. And you know, for me, it really came 0:43 And you know, for me, it really came 0:43 And you know, for me, it really came from my diagnosis of colitis first and 0:46 from my diagnosis of colitis first and 0:46 from my diagnosis of colitis first and you know, kind of going down that road 0:48 you know, kind of going down that road 0:48 you know, kind of going down that road and all of a sudden learning like, oh, 0:50 and all of a sudden learning like, oh, 0:50 and all of a sudden learning like, oh, you know, 10, you know, out of 10 0:52 you know, 10, you know, out of 10 0:52 you know, 10, you know, out of 10 people, nine are women. I'm like, well, 0:54 people, nine are women. I'm like, well, 0:54 people, nine are women. I'm like, well, that's an interesting statistic. Hmm, 0:56 that's an interesting statistic. Hmm, 0:56 that's an interesting statistic. Hmm, you know, for autoimmunity. And then you 0:57 you know, for autoimmunity. And then you 0:57 you know, for autoimmunity. And then you start looking at other risk factors, 1:00 start looking at other risk factors, 1:00 start looking at other risk factors, heart disease, you know, 1:02 heart disease, you know, 1:02 heart disease, you know, Alzheimer's and dementia, three out of 1:03 Alzheimer's and dementia, three out of 1:03 Alzheimer's and dementia, three out of four. And so the reality is is we have 1:06 four. And so the reality is is we have 1:06 four. And so the reality is is we have such an enormous gap in women's health 1:09 such an enormous gap in women's health 1:09 such an enormous gap in women's health and particularly around research and 1:10 and particularly around research and 1:10 and particularly around research and legitimate research that, you know, for 1:13 legitimate research that, you know, for 1:13 legitimate research that, you know, for me, my my 40s were terrible. I 1:16 me, my my 40s were terrible. I 1:16 me, my my 40s were terrible. I experienced really horrible 1:17 experienced really horrible 1:17 experienced really horrible perimenopause despite having a gigantic 1:20 perimenopause despite having a gigantic 1:20 perimenopause despite having a gigantic functional medicine clinic and everybody 1:22 functional medicine clinic and everybody 1:22 functional medicine clinic and everybody everybody that's everybody on a Rolodex. 1:24 everybody that's everybody on a Rolodex. 1:24 everybody that's everybody on a Rolodex. And I was like, if I'm experiencing that 1:27 And I was like, if I'm experiencing that 1:27 And I was like, if I'm experiencing that being as connected as I am, there's a 1:29 being as connected as I am, there's a 1:30 being as connected as I am, there's a gigantic gap. And so that's really it. 1:32 gigantic gap. And so that's really it. 1:32 gigantic gap. And so that's really it. It's my own personal experience and then 1:33 It's my own personal experience and then 1:33 It's my own personal experience and then recognizing that this is no longer okay 1:38 recognizing that this is no longer okay 1:38 recognizing that this is no longer okay to be like, oh, you know, women are just 1:40 to be like, oh, you know, women are just 1:40 to be like, oh, you know, women are just little tiny hairy longer haired men. 1:43 little tiny hairy longer haired men. 1:43 little tiny hairy longer haired men. Like, I don't play that. We're not 1:44 Like, I don't play that. We're not 1:44 Like, I don't play that. We're not bikinis. We are a full human and we 1:47 bikinis. We are a full human and we 1:47 bikinis. We are a full human and we deserve our own research. Agreed. So I'm
Hormones In A World Of Endocrine Disruptors 1:50 deserve our own research. Agreed. So I'm 1:50 deserve our own research. Agreed. So I'm going to ask you about that research and 1:52 going to ask you about that research and 1:52 going to ask you about that research and why it's missing, but first I want you 1:53 why it's missing, but first I want you 1:54 why it's missing, but first I want you to help people understand what are we 1:55 to help people understand what are we 1:55 to help people understand what are we supposed to do about hormone issues and 1:59 supposed to do about hormone issues and 1:59 supposed to do about hormone issues and deregulated hormones in a world where 2:02 deregulated hormones in a world where 2:02 deregulated hormones in a world where we're getting this onslaught of 2:04 we're getting this onslaught of 2:04 we're getting this onslaught of endocrine disruptors from the chemicals 2:06 endocrine disruptors from the chemicals 2:06 endocrine disruptors from the chemicals in our food, air, and water? How are we 2:07 in our food, air, and water? How are we 2:07 in our food, air, and water? How are we supposed to navigate that with hormone 2:09 supposed to navigate that with hormone 2:09 supposed to navigate that with hormone issues today? So, here's things like I
The Estrogen And Breast Cancer Myth 2:11 issues today? So, here's things like I 2:11 issues today? So, here's things like I I'm obviously really, really logical. 2:12 I'm obviously really, really logical. 2:12 I'm obviously really, really logical. You know, I've been in software before, 2:14 You know, I've been in software before, 2:14 You know, I've been in software before, engineering, obviously biochemistry. 2:15 engineering, obviously biochemistry. 2:15 engineering, obviously biochemistry. That was like my love language. Yeah. 2:17 That was like my love language. Yeah. 2:17 That was like my love language. Yeah. And the thing that never meshed for me 2:20 And the thing that never meshed for me 2:20 And the thing that never meshed for me was, okay, if we look at women as a 2:23 was, okay, if we look at women as a 2:23 was, okay, if we look at women as a whole, about 4 in 1,000 will have the 2:26 whole, about 4 in 1,000 will have the 2:26 whole, about 4 in 1,000 will have the risk for breast cancer over their 2:27 risk for breast cancer over their 2:27 risk for breast cancer over their lifetime. I'm going to use this as an 2:28 lifetime. I'm going to use this as an 2:28 lifetime. I'm going to use this as an example, right? And so, but when you go 2:31 example, right? And so, but when you go 2:31 example, right? And so, but when you go through menopause, that starts to 2:32 through menopause, that starts to 2:32 through menopause, that starts to accelerate at this extraordinary rate, 2:35 accelerate at this extraordinary rate, 2:35 accelerate at this extraordinary rate, right? And then by the time you're about 2:36 right? And then by the time you're about 2:36 right? And then by the time you're about 85, it's 1 in 8, right? Um and so you 2:39 85, it's 1 in 8, right? Um and so you 2:39 85, it's 1 in 8, right? Um and so you go, okay, we've been told by 2:41 go, okay, we've been told by 2:41 go, okay, we've been told by conventional medicine, estrogen drives 2:44 conventional medicine, estrogen drives 2:44 conventional medicine, estrogen drives cancer. 2:46 cancer. 2:46 cancer. But yet, none of the studies that ever 2:48 But yet, none of the studies that ever 2:48 But yet, none of the studies that ever looked at hormone replacement in a woman 2:51 looked at hormone replacement in a woman 2:51 looked at hormone replacement in a woman ever showed that estrogen actually drove 2:54 ever showed that estrogen actually drove 2:54 ever showed that estrogen actually drove the increase of cancer. And none of them 2:56 the increase of cancer. And none of them 2:56 the increase of cancer. And none of them showed, not a single one has ever showed 2:57 showed, not a single one has ever showed 2:57 showed, not a single one has ever showed an increase in mortality. And so I 2:59 an increase in mortality. And so I 2:59 an increase in mortality. And so I looked at that and I go, okay, so let me 3:00 looked at that and I go, okay, so let me 3:00 looked at that and I go, okay, so let me do the logic thing. So, if we have our 3:02 do the logic thing. So, if we have our 3:02 do the logic thing. So, if we have our hormones and they're cycling every 3:04 hormones and they're cycling every 3:04 hormones and they're cycling every month, up and down, and you're when you 3:05 month, up and down, and you're when you 3:05 month, up and down, and you're when you ovulate, your estrogen can go easily to 3:07 ovulate, your estrogen can go easily to 3:07 ovulate, your estrogen can go easily to 500. When you're second half of your 3:09 500. When you're second half of your 3:09 500. When you're second half of your cycle, it's easily 4, 450. So, we have a 3:12 cycle, it's easily 4, 450. So, we have a 3:12 cycle, it's easily 4, 450. So, we have a lot of estrogen. 3:13 lot of estrogen. 3:13 lot of estrogen. And it's okay to give you a birth 3:15 And it's okay to give you a birth 3:15 And it's okay to give you a birth control pill, but something magical 3:16 control pill, but something magical 3:16 control pill, but something magical happens at 50 and your hormones and any 3:18 happens at 50 and your hormones and any 3:18 happens at 50 and your hormones and any other hormones now going to kill you. 3:20 other hormones now going to kill you. 3:20 other hormones now going to kill you. I'm like, but our breast cancer risk 3:22 I'm like, but our breast cancer risk 3:22 I'm like, but our breast cancer risk goes up, but we don't have any hormones. 3:24 goes up, but we don't have any hormones. 3:24 goes up, but we don't have any hormones. That doesn't make sense. It's not 3:25 That doesn't make sense. It's not 3:25 That doesn't make sense. It's not logical. 3:27 logical. 3:27 logical. So, 22 years ago, we had a failed, 3:29 So, 22 years ago, we had a failed, 3:29 So, 22 years ago, we had a failed, horrible, poorly done study that keeps 3:32 horrible, poorly done study that keeps 3:32 horrible, poorly done study that keeps getting propagated out into the media. 3:34 getting propagated out into the media. 3:34 getting propagated out into the media. We took women off hormones. 3:36 We took women off hormones. 3:36 We took women off hormones. Did breast cancer rates go down? Not a 3:38 Did breast cancer rates go down? Not a 3:38 Did breast cancer rates go down? Not a bit. Not a bit. Actually went up. And we 3:41 bit. Not a bit. Actually went up. And we 3:41 bit. Not a bit. Actually went up. And we have greater incidences of heart 3:42 have greater incidences of heart 3:42 have greater incidences of heart disease, dementia, and osteoporosis from 3:44 disease, dementia, and osteoporosis from 3:44 disease, dementia, and osteoporosis from it. It defies logic to say that your 3:47 it. It defies logic to say that your 3:47 it. It defies logic to say that your hormone that your body makes suddenly 3:50 hormone that your body makes suddenly 3:50 hormone that your body makes suddenly becomes evil, villainous, and deadly at 3:53 becomes evil, villainous, and deadly at 3:53 becomes evil, villainous, and deadly at a magical number of 50-ish. It's the 3:54 a magical number of 50-ish. It's the 3:54 a magical number of 50-ish. It's the environmental chemicals. And here's my 3:56 environmental chemicals. And here's my 3:56 environmental chemicals. And here's my current hypothesis, this is the reason 3:58 current hypothesis, this is the reason 3:58 current hypothesis, this is the reason why I'm building what I'm building. My 3:59 why I'm building what I'm building. My 3:59 why I'm building what I'm building. My current hypothesis is when you don't 4:01 current hypothesis is when you don't 4:01 current hypothesis is when you don't have your own estrogen to attach that 4:04 have your own estrogen to attach that 4:04 have your own estrogen to attach that keyhole and turn it on, what do you 4:06 keyhole and turn it on, what do you 4:06 keyhole and turn it on, what do you think will do it? Your pesticides, your 4:08 think will do it? Your pesticides, your 4:08 think will do it? Your pesticides, your herbicides, your phthalates, your 4:09 herbicides, your phthalates, your 4:09 herbicides, your phthalates, your fragrances, all of that stuff has a free 4:13 fragrances, all of that stuff has a free 4:13 fragrances, all of that stuff has a free range to those receptors. And and I was 4:15 range to those receptors. And and I was 4:15 range to those receptors. And and I was like, and if you look at it from a 4:16 like, and if you look at it from a 4:16 like, and if you look at it from a logical standpoint, it's also logical. 4:19 logical standpoint, it's also logical. 4:19 logical standpoint, it's also logical. Science. It's amazing. What are the
Hormones Across A Womanu2019s Life 4:21 Science. It's amazing. What are the 4:21 Science. It's amazing. What are the cries for help in each stage of life for 4:23 cries for help in each stage of life for 4:23 cries for help in each stage of life for a female? 4:23 a female? 4:23 a female? >> You know, if you look at very young 4:24 >> You know, if you look at very young 4:24 >> You know, if you look at very young girls, you know, as we go into puberty, 4:28 girls, you know, as we go into puberty, 4:28 girls, you know, as we go into puberty, right? Your ovaries are kind of figuring 4:29 right? Your ovaries are kind of figuring 4:29 right? Your ovaries are kind of figuring it out, you know, and and so you're 4:32 it out, you know, and and so you're 4:32 it out, you know, and and so you're getting kind of abnormal expulsion of 4:34 getting kind of abnormal expulsion of 4:34 getting kind of abnormal expulsion of hormones. So they're high, they're low, 4:35 hormones. So they're high, they're low, 4:35 hormones. So they're high, they're low, they're all over the place. You usually 4:37 they're all over the place. You usually 4:37 they're all over the place. You usually have crampy periods, like everything's 4:39 have crampy periods, like everything's 4:39 have crampy periods, like everything's bad. I remember when I was a kid and I 4:40 bad. I remember when I was a kid and I 4:40 bad. I remember when I was a kid and I was like, being a woman is so hard. I 4:42 was like, being a woman is so hard. I 4:42 was like, being a woman is so hard. I know, I was [laughter] like, I don't 4:43 know, I was [laughter] like, I don't 4:43 know, I was [laughter] like, I don't like those. The world is ending. Yeah, I 4:46 like those. The world is ending. Yeah, I 4:46 like those. The world is ending. Yeah, I was like, this is terrible. What am I 4:47 was like, this is terrible. What am I 4:47 was like, this is terrible. What am I looking forward to? 4:48 looking forward to? 4:49 looking forward to? So, you know, so you're in kind of 4:50 So, you know, so you're in kind of 4:50 So, you know, so you're in kind of hormonal chaos at that time. And then 4:52 hormonal chaos at that time. And then 4:52 hormonal chaos at that time. And then usually for most of us, it starts to 4:54 usually for most of us, it starts to 4:54 usually for most of us, it starts to normalize, we get our own cycle, which 4:56 normalize, we get our own cycle, which 4:57 normalize, we get our own cycle, which could be, you know, 24 days to 32 days 4:59 could be, you know, 24 days to 32 days 4:59 could be, you know, 24 days to 32 days on average. 5:00 on average. 5:00 on average. And then, you know, depending on your 5:02 And then, you know, depending on your 5:02 And then, you know, depending on your fertility, some women might have lower 5:04 fertility, some women might have lower 5:04 fertility, some women might have lower progesterone levels or higher androgens, 5:06 progesterone levels or higher androgens, 5:06 progesterone levels or higher androgens, fall into those categories of like PCOS, 5:09 fall into those categories of like PCOS, 5:09 fall into those categories of like PCOS, endometriosis. Those were all signs that 5:11 endometriosis. Those were all signs that 5:11 endometriosis. Those were all signs that the hormones are not balanced. Right? 5:13 the hormones are not balanced. Right? 5:13 the hormones are not balanced. Right? Some of it genetic, but that doesn't 5:15 Some of it genetic, but that doesn't 5:15 Some of it genetic, but that doesn't mean you have to accept the genetics, it 5:16 mean you have to accept the genetics, it 5:16 mean you have to accept the genetics, it just means that there's, you know, 5:17 just means that there's, you know, 5:17 just means that there's, you know, there's some imbalances there. But I 5:19 there's some imbalances there. But I 5:19 there's some imbalances there. But I think the thing that most people get 5:21 think the thing that most people get 5:21 think the thing that most people get really confused by is the perimenopausal 5:25 really confused by is the perimenopausal 5:25 really confused by is the perimenopausal journey. We've told women that menopause 5:27 journey. We've told women that menopause 5:27 journey. We've told women that menopause is when it all happens, and that's a 5:29 is when it all happens, and that's a 5:29 is when it all happens, and that's a single day in your life. That's 1 year 5:31 single day in your life. That's 1 year 5:31 single day in your life. That's 1 year from the last time you had a menstrual 5:32 from the last time you had a menstrual 5:32 from the last time you had a menstrual cycle. That's the end of the 5:35 cycle. That's the end of the 5:35 cycle. That's the end of the perimenopausal season. 5:37 perimenopausal season. 5:37 perimenopausal season. But the average woman spends at least 8 5:38 But the average woman spends at least 8 5:39 But the average woman spends at least 8 years symptomatic. So that that's 5:41 years symptomatic. So that that's 5:41 years symptomatic. So that that's Remember, it's a bell curve, everybody, 5:42 Remember, it's a bell curve, everybody, 5:42 Remember, it's a bell curve, everybody, so that means some of us are outliers 5:43 so that means some of us are outliers 5:43 so that means some of us are outliers for 16, 5:45 for 16, 5:45 for 16, and some of us skate through with very 5:46 and some of us skate through with very 5:46 and some of us skate through with very few symptoms, right? And the lack of 5:48 few symptoms, right? And the lack of 5:48 few symptoms, right? And the lack of symptoms doesn't mean something's not 5:50 symptoms doesn't mean something's not 5:50 symptoms doesn't mean something's not going on, it just means that you're not 5:52 going on, it just means that you're not 5:52 going on, it just means that you're not presenting those symptoms. And so, if 5:54 presenting those symptoms. And so, if 5:54 presenting those symptoms. And so, if you look at it, you have kind of three 5:55 you look at it, you have kind of three 5:55 you look at it, you have kind of three stages: early perimenopause, right?
The Chaos Of Perimenopause 5:58 stages: early perimenopause, right? 5:58 stages: early perimenopause, right? Which usually means that your 5:59 Which usually means that your 5:59 Which usually means that your progesterone levels are starting to 6:01 progesterone levels are starting to 6:01 progesterone levels are starting to decline. Testosterone has already been 6:03 decline. Testosterone has already been 6:03 decline. Testosterone has already been sliding downhill from 20. It doesn't It 6:05 sliding downhill from 20. It doesn't It 6:05 sliding downhill from 20. It doesn't It doesn't vary that much, it just keeps 6:06 doesn't vary that much, it just keeps 6:06 doesn't vary that much, it just keeps going downhill. But progesterone starts 6:09 going downhill. But progesterone starts 6:09 going downhill. But progesterone starts to decline, so usually you get 6:10 to decline, so usually you get 6:10 to decline, so usually you get crime-scene periods, fibroids, heavy 6:12 crime-scene periods, fibroids, heavy 6:13 crime-scene periods, fibroids, heavy periods, more frequent periods. Like 6:14 periods, more frequent periods. Like 6:14 periods, more frequent periods. Like that is what was it for me. I was like, 6:16 that is what was it for me. I was like, 6:16 that is what was it for me. I was like, "Oh, awesome. I get to have a period 6:17 "Oh, awesome. I get to have a period 6:17 "Oh, awesome. I get to have a period every 21 days, and it's like a crime 6:19 every 21 days, and it's like a crime 6:19 every 21 days, and it's like a crime scene, you know?" 6:20 scene, you know?" 6:20 scene, you know?" >> [laughter] 6:20 >> [laughter] 6:20 >> [laughter] >> And so, you're like, "Okay, never wear 6:22 >> And so, you're like, "Okay, never wear 6:22 >> And so, you're like, "Okay, never wear white." You know, all the things you 6:24 white." You know, all the things you 6:24 white." You know, all the things you think about. How you address that time 6:26 think about. How you address that time 6:26 think about. How you address that time period relative to the midline, where 6:29 period relative to the midline, where 6:29 period relative to the midline, where everything's starting to get crazy. So, 6:30 everything's starting to get crazy. So, 6:30 everything's starting to get crazy. So, now progesterone is declining, and now 6:33 now progesterone is declining, and now 6:33 now progesterone is declining, and now estrogen has attached itself to a bungee 6:35 estrogen has attached itself to a bungee 6:35 estrogen has attached itself to a bungee cord, and so it's going up and down and 6:36 cord, and so it's going up and down and 6:36 cord, and so it's going up and down and up and down and up and down. So, then 6:38 up and down and up and down. So, then 6:38 up and down and up and down. So, then you get hot flashes and night sweats and 6:39 you get hot flashes and night sweats and 6:39 you get hot flashes and night sweats and and brain fog and you know, mood swings 6:42 and brain fog and you know, mood swings 6:42 and brain fog and you know, mood swings and rage and all the other sort of 6:44 and rage and all the other sort of 6:44 and rage and all the other sort of symptoms that can go with it, heart 6:46 symptoms that can go with it, heart 6:46 symptoms that can go with it, heart palpitations. 6:47 palpitations. 6:47 palpitations. You know, what we do to address that 6:49 You know, what we do to address that 6:49 You know, what we do to address that will be different. So, sometimes it's 6:50 will be different. So, sometimes it's 6:50 will be different. So, sometimes it's maybe putting progesterone in, other 6:52 maybe putting progesterone in, other 6:52 maybe putting progesterone in, other times it might be putting progesterone 6:53 times it might be putting progesterone 6:54 times it might be putting progesterone and testosterone in. And then, you know, 6:56 and testosterone in. And then, you know, 6:56 and testosterone in. And then, you know, as you enter that sort of last phase, 6:58 as you enter that sort of last phase, 6:58 as you enter that sort of last phase, the sort of last part of the chaotic 7:00 the sort of last part of the chaotic 7:00 the sort of last part of the chaotic period, what I always was afraid of, and 7:02 period, what I always was afraid of, and 7:02 period, what I always was afraid of, and it's I would say this is a disservice 7:04 it's I would say this is a disservice 7:04 it's I would say this is a disservice functional medicine does to the 7:05 functional medicine does to the 7:05 functional medicine does to the community, and some of it's because 7:06 community, and some of it's because 7:06 community, and some of it's because we're lacking the research, is I knew I 7:08 we're lacking the research, is I knew I 7:08 we're lacking the research, is I knew I was estrogen dominant. Like, anybody 7:10 was estrogen dominant. Like, anybody 7:10 was estrogen dominant. Like, anybody watching this can tell. I got a 7:11 watching this can tell. I got a 7:11 watching this can tell. I got a badonkadonk butt, I'm chesty, you know, 7:14 badonkadonk butt, I'm chesty, you know, 7:14 badonkadonk butt, I'm chesty, you know, if you're curvy, you had estrogen quite 7:16 if you're curvy, you had estrogen quite 7:16 if you're curvy, you had estrogen quite a bit, right? So, I had been told and I 7:19 a bit, right? So, I had been told and I 7:19 a bit, right? So, I had been told and I had had labs, you know, previously and 7:21 had had labs, you know, previously and 7:21 had had labs, you know, previously and all this time that said, "You are 7:22 all this time that said, "You are 7:22 all this time that said, "You are estrogen dominant." So, I'm like, "Okay, 7:24 estrogen dominant." So, I'm like, "Okay, 7:24 estrogen dominant." So, I'm like, "Okay, I'm terrified by estrogen. I couldn't 7:25 I'm terrified by estrogen. I couldn't 7:25 I'm terrified by estrogen. I couldn't possibly have it until the end." But, 7:28 possibly have it until the end." But, 7:28 possibly have it until the end." But, when you get into that last chaotic 7:29 when you get into that last chaotic 7:29 when you get into that last chaotic period where it's all over the place, 7:31 period where it's all over the place, 7:31 period where it's all over the place, you can still have a period and it be 7:33 you can still have a period and it be 7:33 you can still have a period and it be very, very low. 7:34 very, very low. 7:34 very, very low. And nobody knows that. You think, "Oh, 7:36 And nobody knows that. You think, "Oh, 7:36 And nobody knows that. You think, "Oh, if I'm still having a period, I must 7:37 if I'm still having a period, I must 7:37 if I'm still having a period, I must still be estrogen dominant, and I'm not 7:40 still be estrogen dominant, and I'm not 7:40 still be estrogen dominant, and I'm not there yet, so I can't start estrogen." 7:42 there yet, so I can't start estrogen." 7:42 there yet, so I can't start estrogen." Right? And what I can tell you from my 7:44 Right? And what I can tell you from my 7:44 Right? And what I can tell you from my clinic's clinical experience and my own 7:46 clinic's clinical experience and my own 7:46 clinic's clinical experience and my own experience, I didn't do this with 7:47 experience, I didn't do this with 7:47 experience, I didn't do this with myself. I waited until it was all done 7:49 myself. I waited until it was all done 7:49 myself. I waited until it was all done right before I added estrogen cuz I was 7:51 right before I added estrogen cuz I was 7:51 right before I added estrogen cuz I was afraid I was going to get too much. 7:52 afraid I was going to get too much. 7:52 afraid I was going to get too much. Um is that you can often stabilize that 7:55 Um is that you can often stabilize that 7:55 Um is that you can often stabilize that bungee cord experience by 7:57 bungee cord experience by 7:57 bungee cord experience by by stabilizing the estrogen with a 7:59 by stabilizing the estrogen with a 7:59 by stabilizing the estrogen with a little bit of replacement, depending on 8:00 little bit of replacement, depending on 8:00 little bit of replacement, depending on the person. So, it's not as erratic, 8:03 the person. So, it's not as erratic, 8:03 the person. So, it's not as erratic, you know? Cuz the other thing, again, 8:05 you know? Cuz the other thing, again, 8:05 you know? Cuz the other thing, again, thinking logically, if you were a 8:07 thinking logically, if you were a 8:07 thinking logically, if you were a estrogen-dominant woman, what do you 8:09 estrogen-dominant woman, what do you 8:10 estrogen-dominant woman, what do you think you have a lot of receptors for 8:12 think you have a lot of receptors for 8:12 think you have a lot of receptors for estrogen? Yeah. So, who's going to feel 8:13 estrogen? Yeah. So, who's going to feel 8:13 estrogen? Yeah. So, who's going to feel it more profoundly when it starts to 8:15 it more profoundly when it starts to 8:15 it more profoundly when it starts to nose dive? Somebody who has a lot of 8:17 nose dive? Somebody who has a lot of 8:17 nose dive? Somebody who has a lot of receptors. And so, we shouldn't take it 8:20 receptors. And so, we shouldn't take it 8:20 receptors. And so, we shouldn't take it away or be frightened of it when your 8:22 away or be frightened of it when your 8:22 away or be frightened of it when your body is actually crying for it. You 8:24 body is actually crying for it. You 8:24 body is actually crying for it. You know? And so, you have those the 8:26 know? And so, you have those the 8:26 know? And so, you have those the different stages that you have to kind 8:28 different stages that you have to kind 8:28 different stages that you have to kind of look at, you know? And then you have 8:29 of look at, you know? And then you have 8:29 of look at, you know? And then you have to add the thyroid issues and the 8:31 to add the thyroid issues and the 8:31 to add the thyroid issues and the adrenal issues and all those other 8:33 adrenal issues and all those other 8:33 adrenal issues and all those other things. You can't ignore that. Can you 8:34 things. You can't ignore that. Can you 8:34 things. You can't ignore that. Can you speak to that piece because I feel like 8:36 speak to that piece because I feel like 8:36 speak to that piece because I feel like many people have normalized this concept 8:39 many people have normalized this concept 8:39 many people have normalized this concept of HRT? Okay, we're allowed to reach out 8:41 of HRT? Okay, we're allowed to reach out 8:41 of HRT? Okay, we're allowed to reach out for HRT, and then they use it as a 8:42 for HRT, and then they use it as a 8:42 for HRT, and then they use it as a band-aid, and they don't look at deeper 8:44 band-aid, and they don't look at deeper 8:44 band-aid, and they don't look at deeper health issues, and they also don't 8:45 health issues, and they also don't 8:45 health issues, and they also don't understand how medicating these symptoms 8:48 understand how medicating these symptoms 8:48 understand how medicating these symptoms can actually prolong reaching solutions 8:51 can actually prolong reaching solutions 8:51 can actually prolong reaching solutions for these other serious health issues 8:53 for these other serious health issues 8:53 for these other serious health issues because you're masking a problem. Oh my
The Endocrine System Explained 8:56 because you're masking a problem. Oh my 8:56 because you're masking a problem. Oh my gosh. 8:56 gosh. 8:56 gosh. >> So, what would you say to that? So, even 8:57 >> So, what would you say to that? So, even 8:57 >> So, what would you say to that? So, even like thyroid, you know, thyroid's the 8:59 like thyroid, you know, thyroid's the 8:59 like thyroid, you know, thyroid's the magical pill. If I'm fatigued, I'm just 9:01 magical pill. If I'm fatigued, I'm just 9:01 magical pill. If I'm fatigued, I'm just going to get that. I'm going to keep 9:02 going to get that. I'm going to keep 9:02 going to get that. I'm going to keep taking it until I can get T3 high 9:03 taking it until I can get T3 high 9:03 taking it until I can get T3 high enough, you know? And then you don't 9:05 enough, you know? And then you don't 9:05 enough, you know? And then you don't realize that there's adrenal problems 9:07 realize that there's adrenal problems 9:07 realize that there's adrenal problems behind it, and there's many, many other 9:09 behind it, and there's many, many other 9:09 behind it, and there's many, many other things. So, the first thing I always 9:10 things. So, the first thing I always 9:10 things. So, the first thing I always tell people is think of your endocrine 9:12 tell people is think of your endocrine 9:12 tell people is think of your endocrine system as a symphony. You've got the 9:14 system as a symphony. You've got the 9:14 system as a symphony. You've got the hypothalamus who's the director of the 9:16 hypothalamus who's the director of the 9:16 hypothalamus who's the director of the show. You've got the pituitary that's 9:17 show. You've got the pituitary that's 9:17 show. You've got the pituitary that's the conductor talking to the endocrine 9:19 the conductor talking to the endocrine 9:19 the conductor talking to the endocrine glands. 9:20 glands. 9:20 glands. And the percussion is your adrenal 9:22 And the percussion is your adrenal 9:22 And the percussion is your adrenal system. So, 9:23 system. So, 9:24 system. So, if they are playing scat jazz cuz you're 9:25 if they are playing scat jazz cuz you're 9:25 if they are playing scat jazz cuz you're burning the candle at both ends, and you 9:27 burning the candle at both ends, and you 9:27 burning the candle at both ends, and you don't know how to say no, and all that 9:28 don't know how to say no, and all that 9:28 don't know how to say no, and all that other stuff, 9:30 other stuff, 9:30 other stuff, yeah, 9:31 yeah, 9:31 yeah, right? Other everybody else thinks a 9:33 right? Other everybody else thinks a 9:33 right? Other everybody else thinks a waltz is going on. They're going to try 9:34 waltz is going on. They're going to try 9:34 waltz is going on. They're going to try and match the percussion cuz the 9:36 and match the percussion cuz the 9:36 and match the percussion cuz the percussion actually sets the stage for 9:37 percussion actually sets the stage for 9:37 percussion actually sets the stage for the symphony. And and when one system, 9:40 the symphony. And and when one system, 9:40 the symphony. And and when one system, we'll call the brass section the the the 9:43 we'll call the brass section the the the 9:43 we'll call the brass section the the the sex hormones, when they start to go off, 9:46 sex hormones, when they start to go off, 9:46 sex hormones, when they start to go off, everybody starts to try and manage and 9:48 everybody starts to try and manage and 9:48 everybody starts to try and manage and bring it back into homeostasis, balance. 9:50 bring it back into homeostasis, balance. 9:50 bring it back into homeostasis, balance. And so the idea that 9:52 And so the idea that 9:52 And so the idea that >> all the time. 9:53 >> all the time. 9:53 >> all the time. >> Yeah, all brass all the time. Just take 9:54 >> Yeah, all brass all the time. Just take 9:54 >> Yeah, all brass all the time. Just take brass, you don't need anybody else. 9:55 brass, you don't need anybody else. 9:55 brass, you don't need anybody else. We're just going to have a trombone and 9:57 We're just going to have a trombone and 9:57 We're just going to have a trombone and a trumpet, right? So the reality is is 9:58 a trumpet, right? So the reality is is 9:58 a trumpet, right? So the reality is is you have to kind of look at all of it. 10:00 you have to kind of look at all of it. 10:00 you have to kind of look at all of it. And so and so well-meaning practitioners 10:02 And so and so well-meaning practitioners 10:02 And so and so well-meaning practitioners might put people on thyroid or might put 10:04 might put people on thyroid or might put 10:04 might put people on thyroid or might put people on estrogen. And maybe for some 10:06 people on estrogen. And maybe for some 10:06 people on estrogen. And maybe for some people, that's helpful. But let's face 10:08 people, that's helpful. But let's face 10:08 people, that's helpful. But let's face it, functional medicine really is for 10:09 it, functional medicine really is for 10:09 it, functional medicine really is for the outliers first, right? I was an 10:11 the outliers first, right? I was an 10:11 the outliers first, right? I was an outlier. Conventional medicine did 10:13 outlier. Conventional medicine did 10:13 outlier. Conventional medicine did nothing great for me. 10:14 nothing great for me. 10:14 nothing great for me. Right? But they're but that outlier 10:16 Right? But they're but that outlier 10:16 Right? But they're but that outlier group that conventional medicine says 10:18 group that conventional medicine says 10:18 group that conventional medicine says we're not compliant. Don't know what 10:20 we're not compliant. Don't know what 10:20 we're not compliant. Don't know what they call it. Somatization, that's what 10:21 they call it. Somatization, that's what 10:21 they call it. Somatization, that's what I love. Somat- 10:22 I love. Somat- 10:22 I love. Somat- >> So I'm called you non-compliant. I'm 10:24 >> So I'm called you non-compliant. I'm 10:24 >> So I'm called you non-compliant. I'm shocked. But you But you know, so when 10:26 shocked. But you But you know, so when 10:26 shocked. But you But you know, so when so when the conventional things don't 10:27 so when the conventional things don't 10:27 so when the conventional things don't work, right? They sort of label you 10:29 work, right? They sort of label you 10:29 work, right? They sort of label you you're like problem person. So the 10:30 you're like problem person. So the 10:30 you're like problem person. So the problem people are the people that seek, 10:32 problem people are the people that seek, 10:32 problem people are the people that seek, right? And you know, the reality is it's 10:34 right? And you know, the reality is it's 10:34 right? And you know, the reality is it's because the paradigm of of of population 10:37 because the paradigm of of of population 10:37 because the paradigm of of of population health is over. We're at healthcare 3.0 10:39 health is over. We're at healthcare 3.0 10:39 health is over. We're at healthcare 3.0 and that's one-to-one and of one. We 10:43 and that's one-to-one and of one. We 10:43 and that's one-to-one and of one. We have the capacity to do that. We need to 10:44 have the capacity to do that. We need to 10:44 have the capacity to do that. We need to quit acting like everybody is the same 10:46 quit acting like everybody is the same 10:46 quit acting like everybody is the same thing and it takes one thing to fix 10:47 thing and it takes one thing to fix 10:47 thing and it takes one thing to fix everything. And so hormones are the same 10:49 everything. And so hormones are the same 10:49 everything. And so hormones are the same way. It's not It's not a magic pill, 10:52 way. It's not It's not a magic pill, 10:52 way. It's not It's not a magic pill, right? It's not a magic patch. It's not 10:54 right? It's not a magic patch. It's not 10:54 right? It's not a magic patch. It's not a magic cream. You have You have to look 10:56 a magic cream. You have You have to look 10:56 a magic cream. You have You have to look at the underlying root causes and start 10:59 at the underlying root causes and start 10:59 at the underlying root causes and start addressing them. So what are some of
Root Causes Of Hormone Imbalance 11:00 addressing them. So what are some of 11:00 addressing them. So what are some of those underlying root causes? So for the 11:02 those underlying root causes? So for the 11:02 those underlying root causes? So for the deeper health issues, you know, I I 11:04 deeper health issues, you know, I I 11:04 deeper health issues, you know, I I would say if we were to take kind of the 11:05 would say if we were to take kind of the 11:05 would say if we were to take kind of the major like center of the onion, it's the 11:07 major like center of the onion, it's the 11:07 major like center of the onion, it's the stress response. 11:09 stress response. 11:09 stress response. You know, I believe me, I tried it 11:10 You know, I believe me, I tried it 11:10 You know, I believe me, I tried it myself cuz I love to burn the candle at 11:12 myself cuz I love to burn the candle at 11:12 myself cuz I love to burn the candle at both both ends. It's how I ride. But the 11:14 both both ends. It's how I ride. But the 11:14 both both ends. It's how I ride. But the reality is you have to protect your 11:15 reality is you have to protect your 11:16 reality is you have to protect your sleep like your life depends on it. You 11:17 sleep like your life depends on it. You 11:17 sleep like your life depends on it. You have to do appropriate exercise for you, 11:19 have to do appropriate exercise for you, 11:19 have to do appropriate exercise for you, not too much, not too little. You have 11:21 not too much, not too little. You have 11:21 not too much, not too little. You have to eat right for your body. You have to 11:23 to eat right for your body. You have to 11:23 to eat right for your body. You have to learn how to say no and do boundaries. 11:25 learn how to say no and do boundaries. 11:25 learn how to say no and do boundaries. All that stuff. Like that to me is like 11:27 All that stuff. Like that to me is like 11:27 All that stuff. Like that to me is like if you're not doing that, 11:29 if you're not doing that, 11:29 if you're not doing that, this There's not a peptides, hormones, 11:32 this There's not a peptides, hormones, 11:32 this There's not a peptides, hormones, everything else on the planet to get you 11:33 everything else on the planet to get you 11:33 everything else on the planet to get you to 100%. Like root cause also means you 11:37 to 100%. Like root cause also means you 11:37 to 100%. Like root cause also means you got to treat your body the way it was 11:38 got to treat your body the way it was 11:38 got to treat your body the way it was designed to be treated. Right? And some 11:41 designed to be treated. Right? And some 11:41 designed to be treated. Right? And some people genetically have a shoe box for 11:43 people genetically have a shoe box for 11:43 people genetically have a shoe box for their capacity to handle stuff, and 11:46 their capacity to handle stuff, and 11:46 their capacity to handle stuff, and other people have a wardrobe box, you 11:47 other people have a wardrobe box, you 11:47 other people have a wardrobe box, you know, those big ones that you can hang 11:48 know, those big ones that you can hang 11:48 know, those big ones that you can hang your stuff in. I happen to have a 11:50 your stuff in. I happen to have a 11:50 your stuff in. I happen to have a wardrobe box, but I have hit threshold 11:52 wardrobe box, but I have hit threshold 11:52 wardrobe box, but I have hit threshold many, many times. 11:53 many, many times. 11:53 many, many times. >> You look at that and you go, "Okay, so 11:55 >> You look at that and you go, "Okay, so 11:55 >> You look at that and you go, "Okay, so You and I both have warehouses. Yeah, 11:56 You and I both have warehouses. Yeah, 11:57 You and I both have warehouses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 11:58 yeah, yeah. 11:58 yeah, yeah. Actually, high capacity. Kevin Kevin and 12:00 Actually, high capacity. Kevin Kevin and 12:00 Actually, high capacity. Kevin Kevin and I asked one time, I was like, "Do you 12:01 I asked one time, I was like, "Do you 12:01 I asked one time, I was like, "Do you just think you're anesthetized to the 12:03 just think you're anesthetized to the 12:03 just think you're anesthetized to the stress response?" I was like, 12:04 stress response?" I was like, 12:04 stress response?" I was like, "Possibly." 12:05 "Possibly." 12:05 "Possibly." >> [laughter] 12:09 >> Yeah, but so we have to understand that 12:09 >> Yeah, but so we have to understand that maybe our threshold isn't the same as 12:10 maybe our threshold isn't the same as 12:10 maybe our threshold isn't the same as others, and so we shouldn't do 12:11 others, and so we shouldn't do 12:12 others, and so we shouldn't do comparison, and that we all have those 12:14 comparison, and that we all have those 12:14 comparison, and that we all have those things that are important, but sleep, 12:16 things that are important, but sleep, 12:16 things that are important, but sleep, stress res- you know, stress reduction, 12:18 stress res- you know, stress reduction, 12:18 stress res- you know, stress reduction, breathing, 12:19 breathing, 12:19 breathing, eating right, those are those are 12:21 eating right, those are those are 12:21 eating right, those are those are foundational. They're the cornerstones. 12:22 foundational. They're the cornerstones. 12:22 foundational. They're the cornerstones. You can't bypass those. There's not 12:23 You can't bypass those. There's not 12:23 You can't bypass those. There's not enough pills on the planet to fix that. 12:25 enough pills on the planet to fix that. 12:25 enough pills on the planet to fix that. >> Yeah, that's really well said. What what
Environmental Toxins And Hormones 12:26 >> Yeah, that's really well said. What what 12:26 >> Yeah, that's really well said. What what other root causes are we overlooking? 12:28 other root causes are we overlooking? 12:28 other root causes are we overlooking? Oh, so from a hormonal standpoint, so 12:30 Oh, so from a hormonal standpoint, so 12:30 Oh, so from a hormonal standpoint, so obviously endocrine disrupting 12:31 obviously endocrine disrupting 12:31 obviously endocrine disrupting chemicals. Like what? What would be 12:33 chemicals. Like what? What would be 12:33 chemicals. Like what? What would be endocrine disrupting chemicals? 12:34 endocrine disrupting chemicals? 12:34 endocrine disrupting chemicals? >> Basically everything. You know, 12:36 >> Basically everything. You know, 12:36 >> Basically everything. You know, [laughter] like Okay. Well, you know, 12:38 [laughter] like Okay. Well, you know, 12:38 [laughter] like Okay. Well, you know, here's the thing. So, if you think about 12:40 here's the thing. So, if you think about 12:40 here's the thing. So, if you think about it, before the industrial age, 12:42 it, before the industrial age, 12:42 it, before the industrial age, everything on the planet 12:44 everything on the planet 12:44 everything on the planet was organic. Right? Now, we also have to 12:47 was organic. Right? Now, we also have to 12:47 was organic. Right? Now, we also have to remember our average life expectancy at 12:48 remember our average life expectancy at 12:48 remember our average life expectancy at that point was about 20 years, right? 12:50 that point was about 20 years, right? 12:50 that point was about 20 years, right? So, we have to also get it's not like 12:52 So, we have to also get it's not like 12:52 So, we have to also get it's not like perfect if you eat organic, it's not 12:53 perfect if you eat organic, it's not 12:53 perfect if you eat organic, it's not necessarily going to take care of 12:54 necessarily going to take care of 12:54 necessarily going to take care of everything. 12:55 everything. 12:55 everything. But, the vast majority of those 12:57 But, the vast majority of those 12:57 But, the vast majority of those chemicals were created after World War 12:59 chemicals were created after World War 12:59 chemicals were created after World War II. Right? And a lot of them came out 13:01 II. Right? And a lot of them came out 13:01 II. Right? And a lot of them came out of, "Oh, we've got these byproducts of 13:02 of, "Oh, we've got these byproducts of 13:02 of, "Oh, we've got these byproducts of war. We don't know what to do with 13:03 war. We don't know what to do with 13:03 war. We don't know what to do with them." And then 13:05 them." And then 13:05 them." And then >> revolution, that's what they called it. 13:06 >> revolution, that's what they called it. 13:06 >> revolution, that's what they called it. Yeah. 13:07 Yeah. 13:07 Yeah. >> It's very weird, isn't it? 13:08 >> It's very weird, isn't it? 13:08 >> It's very weird, isn't it? >> Marketing, imagine that. So, you know, 13:10 >> Marketing, imagine that. So, you know, 13:10 >> Marketing, imagine that. So, you know, so none of them have really been been 13:12 so none of them have really been been 13:12 so none of them have really been been tested significantly on humans, and 13:14 tested significantly on humans, and 13:14 tested significantly on humans, and especially not in combination, and not 13:16 especially not in combination, and not 13:16 especially not in combination, and not in, you know, 15,000, 85,000, 100,000, 13:20 in, you know, 15,000, 85,000, 100,000, 13:20 in, you know, 15,000, 85,000, 100,000, you know, different chemicals together 13:22 you know, different chemicals together 13:22 you know, different chemicals together as a total load. Right? 13:24 as a total load. Right? 13:24 as a total load. Right? >> Right. And so, I I think what people 13:26 >> Right. And so, I I think what people 13:26 >> Right. And so, I I think what people misunderstand is that you know, you 13:29 misunderstand is that you know, you 13:29 misunderstand is that you know, you could be doing a lot of things to like 13:31 could be doing a lot of things to like 13:31 could be doing a lot of things to like okay, I'm not going to use plastic. I'm 13:32 okay, I'm not going to use plastic. I'm 13:32 okay, I'm not going to use plastic. I'm going to use, you know, a water filter 13:35 going to use, you know, a water filter 13:35 going to use, you know, a water filter and you know, distill it and I'm going 13:37 and you know, distill it and I'm going 13:37 and you know, distill it and I'm going to do all this stuff. We're constantly 13:39 to do all this stuff. We're constantly 13:39 to do all this stuff. We're constantly getting bombarded. I live in Texas now. 13:42 getting bombarded. I live in Texas now. 13:42 getting bombarded. I live in Texas now. You know, the car exhaust alone is 13:43 You know, the car exhaust alone is 13:43 You know, the car exhaust alone is enough, right? And the reality is is is 13:46 enough, right? And the reality is is is 13:46 enough, right? And the reality is is is we can't get 100% away from it, but the 13:48 we can't get 100% away from it, but the 13:48 we can't get 100% away from it, but the more we start to remove those things and 13:50 more we start to remove those things and 13:50 more we start to remove those things and support detoxification on an ongoing 13:52 support detoxification on an ongoing 13:52 support detoxification on an ongoing basis, the better we are. 13:54 basis, the better we are. 13:54 basis, the better we are. You know, I kind of honed my teeth 20 13:56 You know, I kind of honed my teeth 20 13:56 You know, I kind of honed my teeth 20 years ago on helping people understand 13:58 years ago on helping people understand 13:58 years ago on helping people understand detox and doing detox groups. 14:00 detox and doing detox groups. 14:00 detox and doing detox groups. And you know, people are like, I'm done 14:01 And you know, people are like, I'm done 14:01 And you know, people are like, I'm done for the year. And I was like, girl, you 14:03 for the year. And I was like, girl, you 14:03 for the year. And I was like, girl, you just walked outside. You retoxed. 14:06 just walked outside. You retoxed. 14:06 just walked outside. You retoxed. So, it's something you have to support 14:07 So, it's something you have to support 14:07 So, it's something you have to support all the time. It's not magic. It's like 14:09 all the time. It's not magic. It's like 14:09 all the time. It's not magic. It's like you you may do some big things, but then 14:11 you you may do some big things, but then 14:11 you you may do some big things, but then you need to continue to support it. So, 14:12 you need to continue to support it. So, 14:12 you need to continue to support it. So, I want to talk about that because when
How Detoxification Actually Works 14:15 I want to talk about that because when 14:15 I want to talk about that because when you have such a rich toolkit at your 14:17 you have such a rich toolkit at your 14:17 you have such a rich toolkit at your disposal, want to make sure we get as 14:19 disposal, want to make sure we get as 14:19 disposal, want to make sure we get as much exposure to that as possible. So, 14:21 much exposure to that as possible. So, 14:21 much exposure to that as possible. So, two-part question. What are some ongoing 14:23 two-part question. What are some ongoing 14:23 two-part question. What are some ongoing strategies that you like after people 14:26 strategies that you like after people 14:26 strategies that you like after people have detoxed and recovered their health? 14:28 have detoxed and recovered their health? 14:28 have detoxed and recovered their health? And two, are there any specific 14:30 And two, are there any specific 14:30 And two, are there any specific strategies you recommend for 14:32 strategies you recommend for 14:32 strategies you recommend for perimenopausal and menopausal women? 14:34 perimenopausal and menopausal women? 14:34 perimenopausal and menopausal women? First off, if we look at detoxification, 14:36 First off, if we look at detoxification, 14:36 First off, if we look at detoxification, you know, as things that like if you 14:38 you know, as things that like if you 14:38 you know, as things that like if you have your genetics, it makes it easier. 14:39 have your genetics, it makes it easier. 14:39 have your genetics, it makes it easier. Like if you're not good at making 14:40 Like if you're not good at making 14:40 Like if you're not good at making glutathione, which is your major 14:41 glutathione, which is your major 14:41 glutathione, which is your major antioxidant and one of the major detox 14:43 antioxidant and one of the major detox 14:43 antioxidant and one of the major detox pathways, it helps you understand that. 14:45 pathways, it helps you understand that. 14:45 pathways, it helps you understand that. But even if you don't, right? Like that 14:47 But even if you don't, right? Like that 14:47 But even if you don't, right? Like that helps us be more precise. Even if you 14:49 helps us be more precise. Even if you 14:49 helps us be more precise. Even if you don't, you need to support the liver's 14:52 don't, you need to support the liver's 14:52 don't, you need to support the liver's capacity to wrap up toxins and get rid 14:55 capacity to wrap up toxins and get rid 14:55 capacity to wrap up toxins and get rid of it. And I think I think the hard 14:57 of it. And I think I think the hard 14:57 of it. And I think I think the hard thing is like I know the first time I 14:58 thing is like I know the first time I 14:58 thing is like I know the first time I was in biochemistry and we were talking 14:59 was in biochemistry and we were talking 14:59 was in biochemistry and we were talking about biotransformation. In my head, my 15:01 about biotransformation. In my head, my 15:02 about biotransformation. In my head, my simplistic idea was it's like like 15:03 simplistic idea was it's like like 15:03 simplistic idea was it's like like having a chair and I got to get it in 15:05 having a chair and I got to get it in 15:05 having a chair and I got to get it in the trash can. It doesn't fit, so I'm 15:07 the trash can. It doesn't fit, so I'm 15:07 the trash can. It doesn't fit, so I'm going to break the legs off of it and 15:08 going to break the legs off of it and 15:08 going to break the legs off of it and shove it in there. That's not how 15:09 shove it in there. That's not how 15:09 shove it in there. That's not how detoxification works. Detoxification is 15:12 detoxification works. Detoxification is 15:12 detoxification works. Detoxification is different wrappers driven by different 15:14 different wrappers driven by different 15:14 different wrappers driven by different nutrients like B vitamins, amino acids, 15:17 nutrients like B vitamins, amino acids, 15:17 nutrients like B vitamins, amino acids, your antioxidants. They get wrapped 15:19 your antioxidants. They get wrapped 15:19 your antioxidants. They get wrapped around at different stages. They get 15:22 around at different stages. They get 15:22 around at different stages. They get wrapped around that piece like tissue 15:24 wrapped around that piece like tissue 15:24 wrapped around that piece like tissue paper, and they have to go in order, and 15:26 paper, and they have to go in order, and 15:26 paper, and they have to go in order, and they have to be the right color, and and 15:28 they have to be the right color, and and 15:28 they have to be the right color, and and then once you wrap multiple wrappers 15:30 then once you wrap multiple wrappers 15:30 then once you wrap multiple wrappers around phase one, phase two, I would 15:33 around phase one, phase two, I would 15:33 around phase one, phase two, I would argue phase three, only then can it go 15:35 argue phase three, only then can it go 15:35 argue phase three, only then can it go in the dumpster. 15:36 in the dumpster. 15:36 in the dumpster. And and I think, you know, people don't 15:38 And and I think, you know, people don't 15:38 And and I think, you know, people don't think about that, and so they're like, 15:39 think about that, and so they're like, 15:39 think about that, and so they're like, "Oh, I'm going to take milk thistle, or 15:41 "Oh, I'm going to take milk thistle, or 15:41 "Oh, I'm going to take milk thistle, or I'm going to take glutathione, and I'm 15:43 I'm going to take glutathione, and I'm 15:43 I'm going to take glutathione, and I'm and it's magic." And it's like, "No, no, 15:44 and it's magic." And it's like, "No, no, 15:44 and it's magic." And it's like, "No, no, no, no, there's a ton of nutrients 15:45 no, no, there's a ton of nutrients 15:46 no, no, there's a ton of nutrients >> My guy told me to make a cilantro 15:47 >> My guy told me to make a cilantro 15:47 >> My guy told me to make a cilantro smoothie, so I'm done as long as I do 15:49 smoothie, so I'm done as long as I do 15:49 smoothie, so I'm done as long as I do that.
Why Juice Fasting Doesnu2019t Detox You 15:50 that. 15:50 that. >> Can I just talk about juice fasting? How 15:51 >> Can I just talk about juice fasting? How 15:51 >> Can I just talk about juice fasting? How much 15:52 much 15:52 much >> so much. Oh my god. 15:54 >> so much. Oh my god. 15:54 >> so much. Oh my god. >> Juicing vegetables and greens and things 15:56 >> Juicing vegetables and greens and things 15:56 >> Juicing vegetables and greens and things like that, absolutely a way to get 15:58 like that, absolutely a way to get 15:58 like that, absolutely a way to get additional nutrients, right? But without 16:00 additional nutrients, right? But without 16:01 additional nutrients, right? But without amino acids, you will not detoxify a 16:03 amino acids, you will not detoxify a 16:03 amino acids, you will not detoxify a damn thing. You can't. Like, it's 16:05 damn thing. You can't. Like, it's 16:05 damn thing. You can't. Like, it's biochemically Put a little Texas twang 16:07 biochemically Put a little Texas twang 16:07 biochemically Put a little Texas twang on that for me. 16:08 on that for me. 16:08 on that for me. >> Yeah, you can't do that, y'all. So, the 16:09 >> Yeah, you can't do that, y'all. So, the 16:09 >> Yeah, you can't do that, y'all. So, the reality is is you is you actually need 16:12 reality is is you is you actually need 16:12 reality is is you is you actually need quite a bit of protein intake, and you 16:14 quite a bit of protein intake, and you 16:14 quite a bit of protein intake, and you need amino acids, which are liberated 16:15 need amino acids, which are liberated 16:15 need amino acids, which are liberated from proteins, both from vegetables and 16:18 from proteins, both from vegetables and 16:18 from proteins, both from vegetables and animal proteins, but 16:20 animal proteins, but 16:20 animal proteins, but but you're just going to spin that stuff 16:22 but you're just going to spin that stuff 16:22 but you're just going to spin that stuff and put it right back into the cells. 16:24 and put it right back into the cells. 16:24 and put it right back into the cells. And you need minerals, you need 16:26 And you need minerals, you need 16:26 And you need minerals, you need electrolytes, you know, all of those 16:28 electrolytes, you know, all of those 16:28 electrolytes, you know, all of those pieces, they're not just cool things 16:29 pieces, they're not just cool things 16:29 pieces, they're not just cool things that you can take, they actually affect 16:31 that you can take, they actually affect 16:31 that you can take, they actually affect every cellular process, right? The 16:33 every cellular process, right? The 16:33 every cellular process, right? The capacity of your cell to actually 16:35 capacity of your cell to actually 16:35 capacity of your cell to actually excrete toxins are driven by the quality 16:37 excrete toxins are driven by the quality 16:37 excrete toxins are driven by the quality of the membrane and the mitochondria and 16:38 of the membrane and the mitochondria and 16:38 of the membrane and the mitochondria and the cell itself, 16:40 the cell itself, 16:40 the cell itself, right? And so, 16:42 right? And so, 16:42 right? And so, you know, I think I think the things 16:43 you know, I think I think the things 16:43 you know, I think I think the things people need to understand is is 16:45 people need to understand is is 16:45 people need to understand is is nutrition matters, right? The nutrients 16:48 nutrition matters, right? The nutrients 16:48 nutrition matters, right? The nutrients matter. It's not just about macros and I 16:50 matter. It's not just about macros and I 16:50 matter. It's not just about macros and I got my protein in and everything else. 16:52 got my protein in and everything else. 16:52 got my protein in and everything else. We need the micronutrients, and when we 16:54 We need the micronutrients, and when we 16:54 We need the micronutrients, and when we get those, we're halfway to the detox 16:57 get those, we're halfway to the detox 16:57 get those, we're halfway to the detox pathways. And then the other half is is 16:59 pathways. And then the other half is is 16:59 pathways. And then the other half is is supporting by removing things, and, you 17:02 supporting by removing things, and, you 17:02 supporting by removing things, and, you know, trying to reduce your 17:03 know, trying to reduce your 17:03 know, trying to reduce your environmental load as much as possible, 17:05 environmental load as much as possible, 17:05 environmental load as much as possible, and then continuing to support those. Do 17:07 and then continuing to support those. Do 17:07 and then continuing to support those. Do things like sweat. Like, if you look at 17:09 things like sweat. Like, if you look at 17:09 things like sweat. Like, if you look at some of the cardiovascular research with 17:10 some of the cardiovascular research with 17:10 some of the cardiovascular research with just doing like sauna, not even fancy 17:13 just doing like sauna, not even fancy 17:13 just doing like sauna, not even fancy infrared sauna, just getting in the hot 17:15 infrared sauna, just getting in the hot 17:15 infrared sauna, just getting in the hot room. Sauna, if you do it like three to 17:17 room. Sauna, if you do it like three to 17:17 room. Sauna, if you do it like three to four times a week, and there's studies 17:20 four times a week, and there's studies 17:20 four times a week, and there's studies coming out of like Sweden, Denmark, 17:22 coming out of like Sweden, Denmark, 17:22 coming out of like Sweden, Denmark, literally seven of them show reduced 17:24 literally seven of them show reduced 17:24 literally seven of them show reduced risk for cardiovascular event almost 17:26 risk for cardiovascular event almost 17:26 risk for cardiovascular event almost 50%. And it's phenomenal. Yeah. It 17:28 50%. And it's phenomenal. Yeah. It 17:28 50%. And it's phenomenal. Yeah. It cannot be ignored.
Sauna, Sweating And Detox Benefits 17:29 cannot be ignored. 17:29 cannot be ignored. >> And so you're like, well, why is that? 17:30 >> And so you're like, well, why is that? 17:30 >> And so you're like, well, why is that? Well, see, we get vasodilation, we get 17:32 Well, see, we get vasodilation, we get 17:32 Well, see, we get vasodilation, we get heart rate differences, we get 17:34 heart rate differences, we get 17:34 heart rate differences, we get biogenesis of mitochondria, we get 17:37 biogenesis of mitochondria, we get 17:37 biogenesis of mitochondria, we get liberation of toxins, and you excrete 17:39 liberation of toxins, and you excrete 17:39 liberation of toxins, and you excrete like there's so many things that happen 17:42 like there's so many things that happen 17:42 like there's so many things that happen that just small thing you don't have to 17:43 that just small thing you don't have to 17:43 that just small thing you don't have to buy a fancy sauna. Come to Texas. You 17:45 buy a fancy sauna. Come to Texas. You 17:45 buy a fancy sauna. Come to Texas. You can come out and sweat with me every 17:47 can come out and sweat with me every 17:47 can come out and sweat with me every every summer. And we have an infrared 17:49 every summer. And we have an infrared 17:49 every summer. And we have an infrared sauna every day. I also like what you're 17:50 sauna every day. I also like what you're 17:50 sauna every day. I also like what you're emphasizing, which is passive sweat, 17:52 emphasizing, which is passive sweat, 17:52 emphasizing, which is passive sweat, because exercise sweat is actually, you 17:55 because exercise sweat is actually, you 17:55 because exercise sweat is actually, you know, you're you're stressing the body 17:56 know, you're you're stressing the body 17:56 know, you're you're stressing the body differently. We want to be at rest and 17:58 differently. We want to be at rest and 17:58 differently. We want to be at rest and sweating. That is a big part of the 18:00 sweating. That is a big part of the 18:00 sweating. That is a big part of the benefit. Yes, absolutely. And so, you 18:03 benefit. Yes, absolutely. And so, you 18:03 benefit. Yes, absolutely. And so, you know, all those things help support 18:05 know, all those things help support 18:05 know, all those things help support detox, and that's something that you 18:06 detox, and that's something that you 18:06 detox, and that's something that you just put into your process each week. 18:09 just put into your process each week. 18:09 just put into your process each week. Doesn't have to be exact. You know, I 18:10 Doesn't have to be exact. You know, I 18:10 Doesn't have to be exact. You know, I think the other thing is we get trained 18:12 think the other thing is we get trained 18:12 think the other thing is we get trained that we have to have the same macros 18:13 that we have to have the same macros 18:13 that we have to have the same macros every day. I have to take my nutrients 18:15 every day. I have to take my nutrients 18:15 every day. I have to take my nutrients perfectly every day. I have to have my, 18:17 perfectly every day. I have to have my, 18:17 perfectly every day. I have to have my, you know, sweat on every day, and then 18:19 you know, sweat on every day, and then 18:19 you know, sweat on every day, and then my red light, and my this, and that. And 18:20 my red light, and my this, and that. And 18:20 my red light, and my this, and that. And I'm like, no. If you look at it over the 18:22 I'm like, no. If you look at it over the 18:22 I'm like, no. If you look at it over the like just take the month, and over the 18:23 like just take the month, and over the 18:23 like just take the month, and over the totality of it, if I have these things 18:26 totality of it, if I have these things 18:26 totality of it, if I have these things in there in sort of a, you know, a 18:29 in there in sort of a, you know, a 18:29 in there in sort of a, you know, a mixture of things where I'm supporting 18:31 mixture of things where I'm supporting 18:31 mixture of things where I'm supporting on a regular basis, but I allow for it 18:34 on a regular basis, but I allow for it 18:34 on a regular basis, but I allow for it to not be another full-time job, that's 18:36 to not be another full-time job, that's 18:36 to not be another full-time job, that's how you execute. Right? You it's really 18:39 how you execute. Right? You it's really 18:39 how you execute. Right? You it's really hard for somebody to do all these things 18:41 hard for somebody to do all these things 18:41 hard for somebody to do all these things all the time perfectly because it does 18:42 all the time perfectly because it does 18:42 all the time perfectly because it does become a full-time job. And for somebody 18:44 become a full-time job. And for somebody 18:44 become a full-time job. And for somebody who's sick, they might have to do that 18:45 who's sick, they might have to do that 18:45 who's sick, they might have to do that for a while. And it's not to disparage 18:47 for a while. And it's not to disparage 18:47 for a while. And it's not to disparage juicing as a part of an oral because I 18:49 juicing as a part of an oral because I 18:49 juicing as a part of an oral because I can just see the lights now. St. Claire 18:51 can just see the lights now. St. Claire 18:51 can just see the lights now. St. Claire hates juicing. How dare you? No, it's 18:54 hates juicing. How dare you? No, it's 18:54 hates juicing. How dare you? No, it's just that the I hate the influencer 18:56 just that the I hate the influencer 18:56 just that the I hate the influencer thing of this is the only tool. When all 18:59 thing of this is the only tool. When all 18:59 thing of this is the only tool. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks 19:00 you have is a hammer, everything looks 19:00 you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Right, right? When all you 19:02 like a nail. Right, right? When all you 19:02 like a nail. Right, right? When all you have is hormone pellets, everything 19:03 have is hormone pellets, everything 19:03 have is hormone pellets, everything looks like a hormone pellet problem. 19:04 looks like a hormone pellet problem. 19:04 looks like a hormone pellet problem. It's it's that orientation, and then 19:06 It's it's that orientation, and then 19:06 It's it's that orientation, and then people drinking histamine and oxalate 19:09 people drinking histamine and oxalate 19:09 people drinking histamine and oxalate bombs wondering, why isn't this working 19:11 bombs wondering, why isn't this working 19:11 bombs wondering, why isn't this working for me? Is my body broken? And that's 19:12 for me? Is my body broken? And that's 19:12 for me? Is my body broken? And that's what I hate. So, that's 100% Yeah, which 19:15 what I hate. So, that's 100% Yeah, which 19:15 what I hate. So, that's 100% Yeah, which we could go down that oxalate histamine 19:17 we could go down that oxalate histamine 19:17 we could go down that oxalate histamine thing. I know, right? Well, I actually 19:18 thing. I know, right? Well, I actually 19:18 thing. I know, right? Well, I actually want to hear your thoughts on that from 19:19 want to hear your thoughts on that from 19:20 want to hear your thoughts on that from a hormone perspective as well. Hormone
Hormones, Histamine And Oxalates 19:22 a hormone perspective as well. Hormone 19:22 a hormone perspective as well. Hormone replacement therapy is not just about 19:23 replacement therapy is not just about 19:23 replacement therapy is not just about the hormones you make or take, it's 19:25 the hormones you make or take, it's 19:25 the hormones you make or take, it's about how you get them ready for the 19:26 about how you get them ready for the 19:26 about how you get them ready for the trash, right? And that's how you get 19:28 trash, right? And that's how you get 19:28 trash, right? And that's how you get them out. And that's usually where we 19:29 them out. And that's usually where we 19:29 them out. And that's usually where we run into the biggest problems. 19:30 run into the biggest problems. 19:30 run into the biggest problems. But, you know, as your hormones are all 19:33 But, you know, as your hormones are all 19:33 But, you know, as your hormones are all over the place, we forget that estrogen 19:34 over the place, we forget that estrogen 19:34 over the place, we forget that estrogen acts as an antioxidant and 19:36 acts as an antioxidant and 19:36 acts as an antioxidant and anti-inflammatory. And when it's 19:38 anti-inflammatory. And when it's 19:38 anti-inflammatory. And when it's balanced, it's great. And when it's too 19:40 balanced, it's great. And when it's too 19:40 balanced, it's great. And when it's too low, it's not. And when it's too high, 19:41 low, it's not. And when it's too high, 19:41 low, it's not. And when it's too high, it's not. And so, it's interesting is 19:43 it's not. And so, it's interesting is 19:43 it's not. And so, it's interesting is this is where all the mast cell 19:44 this is where all the mast cell 19:44 this is where all the mast cell activation, multiple, you know, multiple 19:47 activation, multiple, you know, multiple 19:47 activation, multiple, you know, multiple chemical sensitivities I just Everybody 19:49 chemical sensitivities I just Everybody 19:49 chemical sensitivities I just Everybody I was just joking earlier, I got to take 19:51 I was just joking earlier, I got to take 19:51 I was just joking earlier, I got to take a Benadryl today cuz I broke out in 19:52 a Benadryl today cuz I broke out in 19:52 a Benadryl today cuz I broke out in hives all over at a hotel. And I haven't 19:55 hives all over at a hotel. And I haven't 19:55 hives all over at a hotel. And I haven't had an anaphylactic sort of experience 19:56 had an anaphylactic sort of experience 19:56 had an anaphylactic sort of experience in a long time, but you know, it's like, 19:58 in a long time, but you know, it's like, 19:58 in a long time, but you know, it's like, "Okay, what environment am I in?" It's 20:00 "Okay, what environment am I in?" It's 20:00 "Okay, what environment am I in?" It's obviously not mine. You know, and so, 20:02 obviously not mine. You know, and so, 20:02 obviously not mine. You know, and so, when your hormones are kind of all over, 20:04 when your hormones are kind of all over, 20:04 when your hormones are kind of all over, that all gets worse. So, if you're 20:06 that all gets worse. So, if you're 20:06 that all gets worse. So, if you're loading up on oxalates, which get tied 20:09 loading up on oxalates, which get tied 20:09 loading up on oxalates, which get tied up in the body the body can only excrete 20:10 up in the body the body can only excrete 20:10 up in the body the body can only excrete so much of that. And so, if all of a 20:12 so much of that. And so, if all of a 20:12 so much of that. And so, if all of a sudden you're like, "I'm going to drink 20:13 sudden you're like, "I'm going to drink 20:13 sudden you're like, "I'm going to drink kale every day," you're going to get a 20:15 kale every day," you're going to get a 20:15 kale every day," you're going to get a ton of them that get stored, and it 20:16 ton of them that get stored, and it 20:16 ton of them that get stored, and it binds to your calcium, and it keeps you 20:18 binds to your calcium, and it keeps you 20:18 binds to your calcium, and it keeps you from absorbing it. But, 20:21 from absorbing it. But, 20:21 from absorbing it. But, if you're varying that, you get calcium 20:23 if you're varying that, you get calcium 20:23 if you're varying that, you get calcium dumping or not calcium oxalate dumping 20:25 dumping or not calcium oxalate dumping 20:25 dumping or not calcium oxalate dumping or not, you get histamine response. And 20:27 or not, you get histamine response. And 20:27 or not, you get histamine response. And so, you get in this constellation of of 20:30 so, you get in this constellation of of 20:30 so, you get in this constellation of of immune system dysregulation and 20:32 immune system dysregulation and 20:32 immune system dysregulation and estrogen's whipping the horse behind it 20:35 estrogen's whipping the horse behind it 20:35 estrogen's whipping the horse behind it because you're in the middle of 20:36 because you're in the middle of 20:36 because you're in the middle of perimenopause. Beautifully said. I have 20:39 perimenopause. Beautifully said. I have 20:39 perimenopause. Beautifully said. I have to ask before we run out of time. Mhm. I 20:41 to ask before we run out of time. Mhm. I 20:41 to ask before we run out of time. Mhm. I have so much discomfort around the whole 20:43 have so much discomfort around the whole 20:44 have so much discomfort around the whole hormone replacement industry. Oh, yeah.
Choosing Safer Hormone Replacement 20:46 hormone replacement industry. Oh, yeah. 20:46 hormone replacement industry. Oh, yeah. Anywhere where there's just a ton of 20:47 Anywhere where there's just a ton of 20:47 Anywhere where there's just a ton of money being made, I want people to have 20:49 money being made, I want people to have 20:49 money being made, I want people to have great discernment about what are the 20:50 great discernment about what are the 20:50 great discernment about what are the right decisions for them. So, how should 20:53 right decisions for them. So, how should 20:53 right decisions for them. So, how should we think about or like what are the 20:55 we think about or like what are the 20:55 we think about or like what are the factors when you're considering 20:57 factors when you're considering 20:57 factors when you're considering different hormone replacement therapies? 20:59 different hormone replacement therapies? 20:59 different hormone replacement therapies? Which ones are more toxic? Which ones 21:01 Which ones are more toxic? Which ones 21:01 Which ones are more toxic? Which ones are more, you know, compatible with your 21:04 are more, you know, compatible with your 21:04 are more, you know, compatible with your body's own strategies and rhythms? So, 21:06 body's own strategies and rhythms? So, 21:06 body's own strategies and rhythms? So, the rule is if it's synthetic like 21:08 the rule is if it's synthetic like 21:08 the rule is if it's synthetic like medroxyprogesterone, 21:10 medroxyprogesterone, 21:10 medroxyprogesterone, you know, birth control pills, 21:12 you know, birth control pills, 21:13 you know, birth control pills, IUDs and things like that, you don't 21:14 IUDs and things like that, you don't 21:14 IUDs and things like that, you don't want those. Those are not long-term 21:16 want those. Those are not long-term 21:16 want those. Those are not long-term strategies for menopause, you know, 21:18 strategies for menopause, you know, 21:18 strategies for menopause, you know, perimenopause and menopause and beyond. 21:20 perimenopause and menopause and beyond. 21:20 perimenopause and menopause and beyond. Why not? Why does that matter? Oral 21:21 Why not? Why does that matter? Oral 21:21 Why not? Why does that matter? Oral estrogen, so the most commonly used oral 21:23 estrogen, so the most commonly used oral 21:23 estrogen, so the most commonly used oral estrogen for decades was Premarin. And 21:26 estrogen for decades was Premarin. And 21:26 estrogen for decades was Premarin. And Premarin is made from mare, so everybody 21:28 Premarin is made from mare, so everybody 21:28 Premarin is made from mare, so everybody that's horse pee. It's made from 21:30 that's horse pee. It's made from 21:30 that's horse pee. It's made from pregnant horses pee. And it's got 13 21:33 pregnant horses pee. And it's got 13 21:33 pregnant horses pee. And it's got 13 estrogens in it. We only make three. So, 21:35 estrogens in it. We only make three. So, 21:35 estrogens in it. We only make three. So, all 13 of those estrogens when you take 21:37 all 13 of those estrogens when you take 21:37 all 13 of those estrogens when you take them orally go straight to the liver. 21:39 them orally go straight to the liver. 21:39 them orally go straight to the liver. They pass through those detox pathways 21:42 They pass through those detox pathways 21:42 They pass through those detox pathways where you've got to be able to wrap the 21:43 where you've got to be able to wrap the 21:43 where you've got to be able to wrap the right wrapper in the right order enough. 21:46 right wrapper in the right order enough. 21:46 right wrapper in the right order enough. All of those have to go through that. 21:47 All of those have to go through that. 21:47 All of those have to go through that. Then you have to actually 21:50 Then you have to actually 21:50 Then you have to actually take it and then it goes out into the 21:51 take it and then it goes out into the 21:51 take it and then it goes out into the bloodstream and then starts to work. 21:53 bloodstream and then starts to work. 21:53 bloodstream and then starts to work. But, it's not just those 13 estrogens. 21:55 But, it's not just those 13 estrogens. 21:55 But, it's not just those 13 estrogens. Now, we have the other byproducts your 21:57 Now, we have the other byproducts your 21:57 Now, we have the other byproducts your liver made, some of which are really 21:58 liver made, some of which are really 21:58 liver made, some of which are really pro-inflammatory. 22:00 pro-inflammatory. 22:00 pro-inflammatory. And so, in much older women oral 22:02 And so, in much older women oral 22:02 And so, in much older women oral estrogen is associated with stroke and 22:03 estrogen is associated with stroke and 22:03 estrogen is associated with stroke and heart attack risk because of the 22:05 heart attack risk because of the 22:05 heart attack risk because of the metabolites. 22:06 metabolites. 22:06 metabolites. Because it's given orally. But, today, 22:08 Because it's given orally. But, today, 22:08 Because it's given orally. But, today, so today estrogen is generally given 22:10 so today estrogen is generally given 22:10 so today estrogen is generally given topically. There are There is a 22:12 topically. There are There is a 22:12 topically. There are There is a bioidentical form of estradiol in a 22:14 bioidentical form of estradiol in a 22:14 bioidentical form of estradiol in a pill. I'm still not a fan cuz again, 22:16 pill. I'm still not a fan cuz again, 22:16 pill. I'm still not a fan cuz again, it's going to go to liver first cuz you 22:17 it's going to go to liver first cuz you 22:17 it's going to go to liver first cuz you swallowed it. And it's given as a patch 22:19 swallowed it. And it's given as a patch 22:19 swallowed it. And it's given as a patch or a cream or an oil or a pellet. Here's 22:21 or a cream or an oil or a pellet. Here's 22:21 or a cream or an oil or a pellet. Here's the reality. Is pellets go underneath 22:24 the reality. Is pellets go underneath 22:24 the reality. Is pellets go underneath the muscle, they're tiny and they are 22:26 the muscle, they're tiny and they are 22:26 the muscle, they're tiny and they are bioidentical, but they have other not, 22:28 bioidentical, but they have other not, 22:28 bioidentical, but they have other not, you know, ingredients in them that are 22:30 you know, ingredients in them that are 22:30 you know, ingredients in them that are are going into your body. Your body 22:31 are going into your body. Your body 22:31 are going into your body. Your body creates a little capsule around it. It's 22:33 creates a little capsule around it. It's 22:33 creates a little capsule around it. It's a small surgical experience. Then your 22:35 a small surgical experience. Then your 22:35 a small surgical experience. Then your body's going to slowly absorb it, but 22:36 body's going to slowly absorb it, but 22:36 body's going to slowly absorb it, but that absorbability is just dependent on 22:40 that absorbability is just dependent on 22:40 that absorbability is just dependent on you individually, how much you exercise, 22:42 you individually, how much you exercise, 22:42 you individually, how much you exercise, your own unique biochemistry. And I have 22:44 your own unique biochemistry. And I have 22:44 your own unique biochemistry. And I have seen we do pellets in our clinic, but 22:46 seen we do pellets in our clinic, but 22:46 seen we do pellets in our clinic, but it's begrudgingly, right? But, we we 22:49 it's begrudgingly, right? But, we we 22:49 it's begrudgingly, right? But, we we make sure that it's moving in the right 22:51 make sure that it's moving in the right 22:51 make sure that it's moving in the right direction and it's not getting too high 22:52 direction and it's not getting too high 22:52 direction and it's not getting too high cuz over time it starts building. And 22:54 cuz over time it starts building. And 22:54 cuz over time it starts building. And then you have the patches. Well, the 22:55 then you have the patches. Well, the 22:55 then you have the patches. Well, the patches are great, they're bioidentical, 22:57 patches are great, they're bioidentical, 22:57 patches are great, they're bioidentical, but you've got an adhesive. So, if 22:59 but you've got an adhesive. So, if 22:59 but you've got an adhesive. So, if you're chemically sensitive person, do 23:00 you're chemically sensitive person, do 23:00 you're chemically sensitive person, do you want to stick an adhesive on you? 23:02 you want to stick an adhesive on you? 23:02 you want to stick an adhesive on you? Cuz they've got a bunch of polymers and 23:04 Cuz they've got a bunch of polymers and 23:04 Cuz they've got a bunch of polymers and other things in it that are endocrine 23:05 other things in it that are endocrine 23:05 other things in it that are endocrine disrupting. And then the compounded 23:08 disrupting. And then the compounded 23:08 disrupting. And then the compounded creams, in order for them not to 23:10 creams, in order for them not to 23:10 creams, in order for them not to separate, so it's kind of like if you 23:11 separate, so it's kind of like if you 23:11 separate, so it's kind of like if you put like mayonnaise out and let it sit, 23:13 put like mayonnaise out and let it sit, 23:13 put like mayonnaise out and let it sit, it would separate and be like oily and 23:15 it would separate and be like oily and 23:15 it would separate and be like oily and then it's chunky stuff on top. 23:17 then it's chunky stuff on top. 23:17 then it's chunky stuff on top. Well, they put all of these solvents in 23:18 Well, they put all of these solvents in 23:18 Well, they put all of these solvents in it, so it'll stay in solution. Well, 23:20 it, so it'll stay in solution. Well, 23:20 it, so it'll stay in solution. Well, those solvents are endocrine disrupting. 23:22 those solvents are endocrine disrupting. 23:22 those solvents are endocrine disrupting. And so there's a lot of a lot of women 23:24 And so there's a lot of a lot of women 23:24 And so there's a lot of a lot of women will say, "Well, I was taking this cream 23:26 will say, "Well, I was taking this cream 23:26 will say, "Well, I was taking this cream and it seemed to work, but this one 23:27 and it seemed to work, but this one 23:27 and it seemed to work, but this one doesn't." I'm like, "It's the base." 23:29 doesn't." I'm like, "It's the base." 23:29 doesn't." I'm like, "It's the base." Right? It's not the hormone, it's the 23:30 Right? It's not the hormone, it's the 23:30 Right? It's not the hormone, it's the base. 23:32 base. 23:32 base. And then, you know, like we use we we 23:34 And then, you know, like we use we we 23:34 And then, you know, like we use we we use a bioidentical hormone in jojoba 23:37 use a bioidentical hormone in jojoba 23:37 use a bioidentical hormone in jojoba oil. Two ingredients, that's it. One, 23:40 oil. Two ingredients, that's it. One, 23:40 oil. Two ingredients, that's it. One, two. Jojoba oil is a waxy-like oil. It 23:43 two. Jojoba oil is a waxy-like oil. It 23:43 two. Jojoba oil is a waxy-like oil. It absorbs rapidly to the skin and delivers 23:45 absorbs rapidly to the skin and delivers 23:45 absorbs rapidly to the skin and delivers without having any excipient excipients 23:47 without having any excipient excipients 23:47 without having any excipient excipients in it. That took a long time to get to. 23:49 in it. That took a long time to get to. 23:49 in it. That took a long time to get to. We have to think about where we're 23:50 We have to think about where we're 23:50 We have to think about where we're taking it and how we're taking it. And 23:51 taking it and how we're taking it. And 23:51 taking it and how we're taking it. And same thing with testosterone. 23:52 same thing with testosterone. 23:52 same thing with testosterone. Testosterone is not actually 23:54 Testosterone is not actually 23:54 Testosterone is not actually FDA-approved for women in female doses. 23:57 FDA-approved for women in female doses. 23:57 FDA-approved for women in female doses. So, if you go to a conventional 23:58 So, if you go to a conventional 23:58 So, if you go to a conventional conventional or menopause 24:00 conventional or menopause 24:00 conventional or menopause society-trained doctor, they're going to 24:01 society-trained doctor, they're going to 24:01 society-trained doctor, they're going to give you AndroGel, 24:03 give you AndroGel, 24:03 give you AndroGel, which is dosed for men, and they're 24:04 which is dosed for men, and they're 24:04 which is dosed for men, and they're going to go guess and put a little bit 24:05 going to go guess and put a little bit 24:05 going to go guess and put a little bit on. 24:06 on. 24:06 on. Like, so it's really imprecise. Yeah, 24:08 Like, so it's really imprecise. Yeah, 24:08 Like, so it's really imprecise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 24:09 yeah, yeah. 24:09 yeah, yeah. And then they poo-poo compounded, but 24:11 And then they poo-poo compounded, but 24:11 And then they poo-poo compounded, but again, if it's compounded in cream, you 24:13 again, if it's compounded in cream, you 24:13 again, if it's compounded in cream, you are putting on, you know, a a cream 24:15 are putting on, you know, a a cream 24:15 are putting on, you know, a a cream that's got solvents in it. Um we 24:18 that's got solvents in it. Um we 24:18 that's got solvents in it. Um we obviously do the jojoba oil, you know, 24:20 obviously do the jojoba oil, you know, 24:20 obviously do the jojoba oil, you know, and and so we have to look at it and 24:23 and and so we have to look at it and 24:23 and and so we have to look at it and say, "I don't want to take hormones that 24:25 say, "I don't want to take hormones that 24:25 say, "I don't want to take hormones that are adding additional endocrine 24:26 are adding additional endocrine 24:26 are adding additional endocrine disrupting things." Now, what I will 24:28 disrupting things." Now, what I will 24:28 disrupting things." Now, what I will say, if you've done good at getting 24:30 say, if you've done good at getting 24:30 say, if you've done good at getting everything out, would that little tiny 24:31 everything out, would that little tiny 24:32 everything out, would that little tiny patch or cream make a huge difference? 24:33 patch or cream make a huge difference? 24:33 patch or cream make a huge difference? Probably not, if you've kind of cleaned 24:35 Probably not, if you've kind of cleaned 24:35 Probably not, if you've kind of cleaned up your world. But if you're a super 24:37 up your world. But if you're a super 24:37 up your world. But if you're a super sensitive person, it might. Yeah, I 24:39 sensitive person, it might. Yeah, I 24:39 sensitive person, it might. Yeah, I think that's really well said and super 24:41 think that's really well said and super 24:41 think that's really well said and super critical for people to hear. What I 24:42 critical for people to hear. What I 24:42 critical for people to hear. What I really want to make sure we cover today, 24:44 really want to make sure we cover today, 24:44 really want to make sure we cover today, because you're such a passionate 24:46 because you're such a passionate 24:46 because you're such a passionate advocate for women and for closing the 24:48 advocate for women and for closing the 24:48 advocate for women and for closing the gap in research. I want you to name the 24:51 gap in research. I want you to name the 24:51 gap in research. I want you to name the problem, so we all understand it, and 24:54 problem, so we all understand it, and 24:54 problem, so we all understand it, and give us a call to arms. So, here's the
The Womenu2019s Health Research Crisis 24:56 give us a call to arms. So, here's the 24:56 give us a call to arms. So, here's the challenge. Because of the Women's Health 24:58 challenge. Because of the Women's Health 24:58 challenge. Because of the Women's Health Initiative that came out 22 years ago, 24:59 Initiative that came out 22 years ago, 24:59 Initiative that came out 22 years ago, women were removed from hormone 25:01 women were removed from hormone 25:01 women were removed from hormone replacement, right? And 25:04 replacement, right? And 25:04 replacement, right? And and before that it like 40% depending on 25:06 and before that it like 40% depending on 25:06 and before that it like 40% depending on what country you looked at were put on 25:08 what country you looked at were put on 25:08 what country you looked at were put on hormone replacement in the form of 25:10 hormone replacement in the form of 25:10 hormone replacement in the form of Premarin as standard of care. 25:12 Premarin as standard of care. 25:12 Premarin as standard of care. There are no studies prior to that study 25:14 There are no studies prior to that study 25:14 There are no studies prior to that study that showed breast cancer association at 25:15 that showed breast cancer association at 25:16 that showed breast cancer association at all. Even in their own study, the women 25:18 all. Even in their own study, the women 25:18 all. Even in their own study, the women that took Premarin alone had a 23% 25:20 that took Premarin alone had a 23% 25:20 that took Premarin alone had a 23% reduced risk relative to women who did 25:21 reduced risk relative to women who did 25:22 reduced risk relative to women who did nothing. And the reality is is we can't 25:24 nothing. And the reality is is we can't 25:24 nothing. And the reality is is we can't take that study and generalize it to the 25:26 take that study and generalize it to the 25:26 take that study and generalize it to the entire population because they excluded 25:28 entire population because they excluded 25:28 entire population because they excluded healthy women. So, the women were 25:29 healthy women. So, the women were 25:29 healthy women. So, the women were smokers, hypertensive, overweight and 25:32 smokers, hypertensive, overweight and 25:32 smokers, hypertensive, overweight and obese, pre-diabetic. Like if you if you 25:35 obese, pre-diabetic. Like if you if you 25:35 obese, pre-diabetic. Like if you if you are not those, you can't take that 25:37 are not those, you can't take that 25:37 are not those, you can't take that result and and say it applies to me cuz 25:39 result and and say it applies to me cuz 25:39 result and and say it applies to me cuz you were left out intentionally. 25:41 you were left out intentionally. 25:41 you were left out intentionally. But because of that, Women's Health 25:43 But because of that, Women's Health 25:43 But because of that, Women's Health Research has which was already piss-poor 25:45 Research has which was already piss-poor 25:45 Research has which was already piss-poor because we were left out of research 25:46 because we were left out of research 25:46 because we were left out of research since 1990 until 1993. So, women were 25:49 since 1990 until 1993. So, women were 25:49 since 1990 until 1993. So, women were literally were left out of research. So, 25:51 literally were left out of research. So, 25:51 literally were left out of research. So, most of the generic drugs were never 25:53 most of the generic drugs were never 25:53 most of the generic drugs were never tested on women. 25:54 tested on women. 25:54 tested on women. And still to this day, particularly 25:56 And still to this day, particularly 25:56 And still to this day, particularly women over 40, 25:59 women over 40, 25:59 women over 40, we're we're bikinis to medicine. We are 26:01 we're we're bikinis to medicine. We are 26:01 we're we're bikinis to medicine. We are reproductive organs, that's it. 26:03 reproductive organs, that's it. 26:03 reproductive organs, that's it. And then after that, it's it's pennies 26:05 And then after that, it's it's pennies 26:05 And then after that, it's it's pennies on the dollar, but we make up 50% of the 26:07 on the dollar, but we make up 50% of the 26:07 on the dollar, but we make up 50% of the population of 50 million women in the 26:09 population of 50 million women in the 26:09 population of 50 million women in the United States, 6,000 a day that going to 26:11 United States, 6,000 a day that going to 26:11 United States, 6,000 a day that going to menopause. So, the problem is is nobody 26:13 menopause. So, the problem is is nobody 26:13 menopause. So, the problem is is nobody in conventional medicine has cared about 26:15 in conventional medicine has cared about 26:15 in conventional medicine has cared about women. 26:16 women. 26:16 women. There's a lot of people jumping into the 26:17 There's a lot of people jumping into the 26:17 There's a lot of people jumping into the fray, but we don't have the science. So, 26:20 fray, but we don't have the science. So, 26:20 fray, but we don't have the science. So, that's where Minerva comes in. We are 26:21 that's where Minerva comes in. We are 26:21 that's where Minerva comes in. We are building the first women's digital 26:23 building the first women's digital 26:23 building the first women's digital health intelligence platform to allow 26:25 health intelligence platform to allow 26:25 health intelligence platform to allow women from the comfort of her home phone 26:27 women from the comfort of her home phone 26:27 women from the comfort of her home phone to start finding out about their own 26:29 to start finding out about their own 26:29 to start finding out about their own symptoms when they're wearing wearables. 26:31 symptoms when they're wearing wearables. 26:31 symptoms when they're wearing wearables. I'm an overachiever, I got two on today 26:33 I'm an overachiever, I got two on today 26:33 I'm an overachiever, I got two on today cuz I'm comparing them. All their other 26:34 cuz I'm comparing them. All their other 26:34 cuz I'm comparing them. All their other stuff to start normalizing that data so 26:36 stuff to start normalizing that data so 26:36 stuff to start normalizing that data so they can understand their own 26:37 they can understand their own 26:37 they can understand their own experience, their own lab work, their 26:38 experience, their own lab work, their 26:38 experience, their own lab work, their own parts. And so, when they do do 26:40 own parts. And so, when they do do 26:40 own parts. And so, when they do do hormone replacement, they can work with 26:41 hormone replacement, they can work with 26:42 hormone replacement, they can work with somebody that actually uses the most 26:43 somebody that actually uses the most 26:43 somebody that actually uses the most non-toxic available hormones available, 26:46 non-toxic available hormones available, 26:46 non-toxic available hormones available, but we're also tracking how you take it, 26:47 but we're also tracking how you take it, 26:47 but we're also tracking how you take it, when you take it, what else you taking, 26:49 when you take it, what else you taking, 26:49 when you take it, what else you taking, and what's happening with your hormones. 26:52 and what's happening with your hormones. 26:52 and what's happening with your hormones. So, we can actually help create a 26:54 So, we can actually help create a 26:54 So, we can actually help create a preventative, predictive, and proactive 26:56 preventative, predictive, and proactive 26:57 preventative, predictive, and proactive hormone replacement and women's health 26:58 hormone replacement and women's health 26:58 hormone replacement and women's health platform for each individual. But, then 27:01 platform for each individual. But, then 27:01 platform for each individual. But, then it will be the largest database of 27:02 it will be the largest database of 27:02 it will be the largest database of women's health in the world. First of 27:04 women's health in the world. First of 27:04 women's health in the world. First of all, that's stunning. Yeah. Um I also I 27:08 all, that's stunning. Yeah. Um I also I 27:08 all, that's stunning. Yeah. Um I also I know we're out of time, but I have to 27:10 know we're out of time, but I have to 27:10 know we're out of time, but I have to comment on the conversation happening 27:12 comment on the conversation happening 27:12 comment on the conversation happening behind the scenes because I have been 27:13 behind the scenes because I have been 27:14 behind the scenes because I have been appalled at some of the VC conversations 27:17 appalled at some of the VC conversations 27:17 appalled at some of the VC conversations that you're having because in order for 27:18 that you're having because in order for 27:18 that you're having because in order for this to work and change the world, you 27:20 this to work and change the world, you 27:20 this to work and change the world, you must scale. We all know there's huge 27:22 must scale. We all know there's huge 27:22 must scale. We all know there's huge money in health and health data right 27:24 money in health and health data right 27:24 money in health and health data right now. And yet, what I'm hearing is this 27:27 now. And yet, what I'm hearing is this 27:27 now. And yet, what I'm hearing is this getting dismissed. Oh. 27:29 getting dismissed. Oh. 27:29 getting dismissed. Oh. >> In almost like ridiculously Ridiculous.
Why Womenu2019s Health Still Lacks Funding 27:32 >> In almost like ridiculously Ridiculous. 27:32 >> In almost like ridiculously Ridiculous. Yeah, so of the 100% 27:34 Yeah, so of the 100% 27:34 Yeah, so of the 100% of available private equity and venture 27:36 of available private equity and venture 27:36 of available private equity and venture capital money, less than 2% go to female 27:39 capital money, less than 2% go to female 27:39 capital money, less than 2% go to female founders, although we actually 27:41 founders, although we actually 27:41 founders, although we actually outperform male-founded companies by 27:43 outperform male-founded companies by 27:43 outperform male-founded companies by 62%. 27:45 62%. 27:45 62%. And I've been told by different groups, 27:47 And I've been told by different groups, 27:47 And I've been told by different groups, they're like, "If you're doing women's 27:48 they're like, "If you're doing women's 27:48 they're like, "If you're doing women's health, no one cares." I'm like, "Okay. 27:51 health, no one cares." I'm like, "Okay. 27:51 health, no one cares." I'm like, "Okay. All right." 27:52 All right." 27:52 All right." So, the reality is is the Dalai Lama 27:54 So, the reality is is the Dalai Lama 27:54 So, the reality is is the Dalai Lama said it was the midlife American woman 27:56 said it was the midlife American woman 27:56 said it was the midlife American woman that was going to change the world, 27:57 that was going to change the world, 27:57 that was going to change the world, right? What we need to understand as 27:59 right? What we need to understand as 27:59 right? What we need to understand as women of all ages, but particularly if 28:01 women of all ages, but particularly if 28:01 women of all ages, but particularly if you happen to be slightly seasoned like 28:03 you happen to be slightly seasoned like 28:03 you happen to be slightly seasoned like I am, we have access, 28:06 I am, we have access, 28:06 I am, we have access, we have 28:08 we have 28:08 we have assets, 28:09 assets, 28:09 assets, and we have anger. And we're the 28:10 and we have anger. And we're the 28:10 and we have anger. And we're the decision-makers in our home. 28:12 decision-makers in our home. 28:12 decision-makers in our home. >> 100% 28:14 >> 100% 28:14 >> 100% about health. So. 28:16 about health. So. 28:16 about health. So. >> 100%. 28:17 >> 100%. 28:17 >> 100%. listen. 28:18 listen. 28:18 listen. >> I'm going to share a funny story now 28:19 >> I'm going to share a funny story now 28:19 >> I'm going to share a funny story now that you said that. So, I I had a man 28:21 that you said that. So, I I had a man 28:21 that you said that. So, I I had a man tell me, he said, jokingly, I'm in 28:24 tell me, he said, jokingly, I'm in 28:24 tell me, he said, jokingly, I'm in Texas, so you know, we have some 28:26 Texas, so you know, we have some 28:26 Texas, so you know, we have some challenges with women's health autonomy. 28:28 challenges with women's health autonomy. 28:28 challenges with women's health autonomy. And he sort of said, "Well, you guys 28:30 And he sort of said, "Well, you guys 28:30 And he sort of said, "Well, you guys don't get to make the decisions about 28:31 don't get to make the decisions about 28:31 don't get to make the decisions about your health anyway." 28:33 your health anyway." 28:33 your health anyway." And so, I looked at him and I was like, 28:33 And so, I looked at him and I was like, 28:33 And so, I looked at him and I was like, "Well, that's so funny, sweet pea." 28:35 "Well, that's so funny, sweet pea." 28:35 "Well, that's so funny, sweet pea." Which is usually me being Southern. 28:38 Which is usually me being Southern. 28:38 Which is usually me being Southern. And I said, "So funny, sweet pea. Honey, 28:39 And I said, "So funny, sweet pea. Honey, 28:40 And I said, "So funny, sweet pea. Honey, you don't make decisions about your 28:41 you don't make decisions about your 28:41 you don't make decisions about your health. We schedule your urologist, your 28:43 health. We schedule your urologist, your 28:43 health. We schedule your urologist, your internal medicine doctor, your 28:44 internal medicine doctor, your 28:44 internal medicine doctor, your cardiology appointment. We schedule our 28:46 cardiology appointment. We schedule our 28:46 cardiology appointment. We schedule our grandkids and our kids. We control the 28:48 grandkids and our kids. We control the 28:48 grandkids and our kids. We control the purse strings. Women, particularly 28:50 purse strings. Women, particularly 28:50 purse strings. Women, particularly middle-aged women, make 87% of all 28:53 middle-aged women, make 87% of all 28:53 middle-aged women, make 87% of all medical decisions. And if you add 28:55 medical decisions. And if you add 28:55 medical decisions. And if you add household, it's 85%. We absolutely 28:58 household, it's 85%. We absolutely 28:58 household, it's 85%. We absolutely control the world. We just need to 28:59 control the world. We just need to 28:59 control the world. We just need to recognize it and step into that power. I 29:01 recognize it and step into that power. I 29:02 recognize it and step into that power. I couldn't have said it better myself. 29:03 couldn't have said it better myself. 29:03 couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you so much for your advocacy. No, 29:05 Thank you so much for your advocacy. No, 29:05 Thank you so much for your advocacy. No, thank you. 29:06 thank you. 29:06 thank you. >> [music] 29:06 >> [music] 29:06 >> [music] >> Thanks for spending this time with us 29:07 >> Thanks for spending this time with us 29:07 >> Thanks for spending this time with us today. I know these conversations can 29:09 today. I know these conversations can 29:09 today. I know these conversations can bring up a lot and I want you to have 29:11 bring up a lot and I want you to have 29:11 bring up a lot and I want you to have room to sit with what you learned and 29:13 room to sit with what you learned and 29:13 room to sit with what you learned and let it land in your own body. 29:15 let it land in your own body. 29:15 let it land in your own body. If you want more support or you're 29:17 If you want more support or you're 29:17 If you want more support or you're curious about the next step on your 29:18 curious about the next step on your 29:18 curious about the next step on your healing path, you can always connect 29:20 healing path, you can always connect 29:20 healing path, you can always connect with me. 29:21 with me. 29:21 with me. >> [music] 29:21 >> [music] 29:21 >> [music] >> Find me on Instagram @thedetoxnation 29:24 >> Find me on Instagram @thedetoxnation 29:24 >> Find me on Instagram @thedetoxnation and explore resources mentioned in this 29:26 and explore resources mentioned in this 29:26 and explore resources mentioned in this episode at detoxnation.com. 29:28 episode at detoxnation.com. 29:28 episode at detoxnation.com. 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