Wrestler, Father, Fighter: Cha-Cha Charlie’s Inspiring Rise Against All Odds | Ep. 51

Cha-Cha Charlie Introduction 0:00

Here we go. Hey, hey. Oh, now Cha-Cha Charlie is in the building. There you go, let me see, there we Meet Cha Cha Charlie, a dynamic Dominican professional wrestler. He's a talented athlete bringing lots of passion and energy to the ring. Stay tuned as he shares his journey and stories on today's episode. When you first got that opportunity, how old were you? I was 30. 30, which that's not, like, early in life. No, that was late. That's actually late, but the hat is everything. If I hit you with the mongoose flash with a hat on, there's no kicking out.

One, two, three, game over. And for the listeners who don't know what mongoo is, explain to them what it is. What does the nutritional plan look like for Cha-Cha Charlie? Well, I try to eat good, But at the end of the day I can't tell my mom I'm not gonna eat her food. She'll hit me with chancleta. For real. The Rock's dad, Rocky Johnson, was one of my trainers as well. Where did the name Cha Cha Charlie come from? Slow. Welcome to another episode of a Healthy Point of View podcast. Today, we have a new guest, man.

This is a little bit different. this is not one of our PhDs or MDs. He comes with an expertise in a whole different other area. And I think a lot of people are gonna relate to this because he's made some adjustments in his life and just switched it up to be able to fulfill some of his dreams. and today, who we've have, We have Byron, right? Byran, He doesn't go by Byron. What he goes by is Cha-Cha-Charlie. Welcome, Cha Cha Charlie. Thank you, thank you for having me. But yeah, you call me Byran.

Byrron, hold on. It doesn' feel right. And as a matter of fact, we gotta have a better entrance in this, man. Yeah, yeah. We gotta do a full introduction, because right now I don't have my signature hat on, but we're gonna go ahead and do it. Let's do. And let's get the right introduction. Here we go. Hey, hey. Oh, now Cha-Cha Charlie is in the building. Let me see it. There we It's Cha Cha time, baby. It was official. Hey, I love it.

Getting Into Wrestling at 30 2:51

I loved it and for those of you guys who don't know, this is uno de lo mio. So he's Dominican and Cha-Cha Charlie, he is doing a lot of great stuff for the people, for kids, right, doing professional wrestling. And I've never had a professional wrestler here on the podcast, but I feel honored, man, thank you. Dude, there's a lot that you guys go through as professional wrestlers that people have to understand. There's very important part for health and wellness, right? Mindset and everything else.

And you've done certain things, and I came across your page. I saw that video that went viral and saw you were Dominican and you're here in the Miami area. Man, I gotta reach out to them. We gotta bring them on the podcast. So let's talk about it, Yeah, you reached out to me. We made this happen. I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having me and yeah, I have a big passion for wrestling. Wrestling is in my blood. My uncle was a wrestler in the Dominican Republic. He used to wrestle against Jack Veneno.

And my uncle's name was La Momia de Santiago. That's I think where it comes from. It's a part of my Blood. I've been wrestling for 10 years now. If I would have done it younger, I, would've done, it, But the opportunity presented itself right time. It came late, but the time is here and now I'm running within and doing everything possible. So let's talk about that opportunity, man. When you first got that opportunities, how old were you? I was 30. 30, which that's not like early in life. No, that was late.

That's actually late and you're already working your full time job, doing the insurance game, right? Selling life insurance, selling property insurance. All kinds of stuff. with the family, and then all of a sudden, this opportunity came. How did this opportunities come about? So I love wrestling. One of my friends, I don't know, like independent wrestling was a real thing. And then my friend Jack, Jack Humvington, um ace mayhem uh he uh i saw him doing the independent wrestling and i was like wow man that's awesome man how could i get involved what could I do?

I went to school for film production so um you know i went up to the owner the at the time Pablo Marquez and Dan Ackerman um i offered them my service i'm like let me do your videos um and uh And that's how it started. When I was in the ring, I filming Carlito, Caribbean Cool, filming all these cool guys that I grew up watching. And I wish I could be there. I think I can do the same thing they're doing. And then I asked Pablo and Dan to teach me how to wrestle and we could work it out. And the magic just happened, cha-cha Charlie happened.

The fans resonated with my character and it was magic. Now you're here. That's amazing. You said your uncle was wrestling, a pro wrestler in Dominican Republic. So you grew up watching him. Yeah, yeah. So I grew up watching my uncle, he passed away. But when I was a little kid, you know, I watching him wrestling in the Dominican Republic. He came out here, started wrestling, in New York City, and the Bronx. And yeah, Jack Veneno is the number one Dominican wrestler. The Dominican legend. he's our Hulk Hogan, our John Cena.

Hopefully I can carry the torch to be the next big Dominican wrestler out there.

Training, Promotions, and AEW Experience 6:30

I love it I don't think there's that many out. No, no, there are not many. There's a lot of Dominican wrestlers out but none of them are doing it like me right now. What leagues are you in? Who are wrestling for? What events have you done? Just so the listeners and viewers can kind of understand what you've been doing. So I started with Coastal Championship Wrestling, CCW. That's like my home turf. There's a school out here in Fort Lauderdale if you want to become a wrestler. CC W is where to go.

Uh, that's my main promotion, but I'm an independent contractor right now. So, I wrestle for many promotion. You know, right deal, the right time. I am going to do it. BRCW Boca Raton Championship wrestling is another one. Coastal Colossal Championship Wrestling in New York City. There's a whole bunch. Some of the big stuff that I've done, I worked for AEW. You know, when they came out here in Fort Lauderdale, they went to where the Panthers play. Okay. And the funny story on this one, I was just a guy that was supposed to get beat up.

I come out during commercial break, go to the ring, and then the crowd just starts noticing me. They're like, oh, that's Cha-Cha. By the time I hit the ring, the whole stadium is saying my name. That was not supposed to happen. The limelight was on the other guys. It was Dustin Rhodes and Keith Lee, which they're super popular guys But yeah, I'm in the ring, the crowd starts chanting. The referee goes, oh my God, you're over. Meaning that I am popular. I was like, this is my hometown. It's not a big deal.

And then the referee says, aren't you supposed to be a bad guy? The announcer goes aren' you suppose to a be bad? I said, what do you want me to do? You want to tell them to go to hell? But then yeah. When it was my turn to wrestle, I get the tag and then when I got the tags, you know I was going to go up against Keith Lee at that moment. And then the crowd just starts chanting my name even more on national TV. That was one of the best experiences I ever had, because I was not expecting that pop.

That's the motivation factor. You feel it. The energy is going crazy in that stadium. Getting a pop, meaning the crowd is cheering for me, when technically that was never supposed to happen. So let me ask you this about the rest of them because I don't understand how wrestling works now other fight fighting You know boxing and stuff. There's certain contracts that are produced before you go out Is there a contract like when you're saying? Oh, I'm the guy who's supposed to get beat up Is they're like a contact initially where it's like hey, you come in here to fight to beat it up Yeah, it's a show at the end of the day.

It's quarter graph wrestling. You know, the term that I hate the most is when people say it is fake. There's nothing fake about this. Um, you know you're putting your life on the line. Your body's getting thrown around and that ring is not soft like everyone thinks. Is not a trampoline. Its like a boxing ring. Uh, there's its wood, one foam piece and a mattress at then of day to get thrown around for 15 or 20 minutes, you're taking a toll on your body that day. It's a beating. And imagine doing it almost every day, doing every weekend, three to four times a week, it does take a tolling on you body at the end of the day So you saying when you see guys up there bleeding, that's real blood?

Yeah, the blood is real. The blood it real, again it's choreographed, its a show, but at end day we are beating each other up, trying to hit each other as hard as possible to show the crowd that, you know, it's a fight at the end of the day. And we're gonna put our body on the line to entertain everyone's watching. Wow, wow. So, okay, putting your body in the light. This takes some training. There's training component, there's recovery component. In what I was watching your documentary that's online that everybody needs to watch this because it is a fantastic video about yourself.

I saw some videos of you at a younger age fighting on the street. Yeah. Right. So what was that all about? Because that's not wrestling. That was boxing. No, no. I love fighting. And I loved everything. UFC, MMA, boxing... You've trained in all of those? I did a little bit of training on and every little of everything But you know the videos that they were talking about back in the days, New York City. I was a teen I Was you? Know it was rough neighborhood Washington Heights, you you, know de la meal you have to solve it That's where all the Dominicans are at my grandmother lived off of a hundred and eighty-seven.

Yeah, there you go years I grew up on 191st Street St. Nicholas So at that time, I always wanted to be on the limelight. I was always wanting to do stuff to entertain people. So I started my own public access show. And then what I would do is me and my friends, we would... we will get a crowd going and then we would just box each other in the streets and just entertain everybody and put it on TV the next day. And yeah, since I was the one doing it, I said I'm going to be involved too.

Street Fighting Roots and Wrestling Reality 11:54

I want to fight. The entertainment was nonstop. It reminds me of like Hornhead Masvidal, Kimbo Slice, all these guys down here in Miami. They used to do the backyard fighting. Similar. So yeah I did the same thing. But in New York City, and this is before YouTube, before the big social medias, again, we had public access at that time, so we were doing it and putting it on the local networks in NYC at the time. Nice, that's amazing. So the training component of it, of what you do now, because obviously you got a family.

You got a regular job as well, right? How is that training and how do you allocate the time? Because there's gotta be a work-life balance here with everything that you got going on. Yeah, no, it's not easy. You know, I gotta pay the bills. I got to take care of my son. My son has autism. The reason I'm doing all this. Then I've got a train. Train at the school. Make sure I am doing everything good when it comes to wrestling. Besides that I have to work out. Gotta work constantly to be in ring shape.

to have the body to look like a wrestler. And also for my body, to take the pain and everything that's going on, you have to train. You're not training. you get weak and you don't want to get week out there. That's gonna cause injuries and stuff if you're too weak. So that training, when you go to the school and train, what does that train consist of? Are you actually going in there with other people? Okay. So it's a school. Um, again, coastal championship wrestling is the main training facility.

Uh, so if you want to be a wrestler, that's the pace to go. They have classes there Monday through Thursdays, um, with a lead head trainer, uh, gangrel who's, a WWE legend. Yeah. You could, you have to train, You have the train. Is that training a little bit like, Like a little bit of acting and also fighting. They teach you everything. Everything. So even like when you got to grab the chair and smack somebody with a chair. That's part of the training. If you just want to be a commentator, if you want be referee, you have to go through everything to know what's actually happening in the ring.

Uh, so even the referees, uh, they have to go through the training. Um, like actually get in there, fight, also fight for, for they could understand what, what we're going through. And cause you know that the referee is there to, to be the ref free, but they're also our guide. They're there watching, making sure that we were on time, you, know what they were making there. There are part of the, there are, part, of, the whole segment that they we doing. Right. How long you train for when you go to the school?

It's three hours maybe. Three hours, non-stop. So you get exhausted after that. Yeah, yeah. Now that I've been there for a long time, I'm smarter on the way I train because me, consistently now wrestling every weekend, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. You just got to be smart and know what you're doing. Again, you don't wanna get injured on something stupid, like in training, doing something that you're not supposed to be doing. Because at the end of the day you got the big show coming and that's where it's at.

You gotta make sure you are good for that. Yeah, exactly. So what does the nutritional plan look like for Cha Cha Charlie? Don't tell me mango and chimichurri, you know? It's hard to let that go, with my mom being Dominican, she cooks like a Dominican. The mango, arroz con huitzuela, salame, los tres golpes, all that good stuff. I don't eat it too like heavy. I try to eat good. But at the end of the day, I can't tell my mom I'm not gonna eat her food. She'll hit me with the chancleta. For real. So okay, so you got your regiments in place.

And when you decided to make this transition, to actually fulfill this goal, this dream of yours at age 30, What was going through your mind at that point in time when this opportunity presented itself? Did you question it or were you just like, I'm gonna do it? I saw what it was and I was instantly in love with it. My son was just born as well. So he was like my motivation. When he born, he my was motivation, you know, so what he going though and just wanted to give him something to have his dad proud of.

And, you know, that was always the main thing. But yeah, no, I wanted to do it. I saw I had something with Cha Cha Charlie. The fans were just, they loved it, They resonated with me instantly.

Family, Recovery, and Nutrition 16:57

They were on my side and I was like, have something here. Let me run with it and let me see where it goes. And it just kept on growing, growing and growing. and now I'm here, Yeah, yeah man. So as a serial entrepreneur, I know one of the most important things in building up yourself is building the brand, right? Which you obviously have created this persona. Where did the name Cha-Cha Charlie come from? So, me being Dominican, at practice, I would always dance merengue while I was practicing, doing the bachata.

I wanted to incorporate my culture, my heritage into my wrestling. The Rock's dad, Rocky Johnson, was one of my trainers as well. The first name I wanted to go with was El Chaly Bronson. Charles Branson, for like the Spanish version. So I was like, El chaly bronsong. And then The rock's Dad, he shut that down right away. He was, like that's stupid. I hate it. Uh, I don't like it and then I, uh, oh, Oh, it was sad. You know, put my head down. Like I really liked that name, but then, um, I kept on doing my thing, just training and dancing.

And then one of the boys, one my coworkers, they were like, why don't you put Cha-Cha in front of it? Cha Cha Charlie. I'm like Cha, Cha. Charlie, I love it. It's something that you can't forget that is going to stick in your mind right after the show is over. You're going be saying Cha cha Charlie if you like my name or not, you're gonna remember that name. I ran with it, it sticks. It's something that you can't forget. And Cha-Cha Charlie is here now. Yeah, yeah. No, no, I love it. So your son, does he go to every single one of your places?

No. He goes to some whenever I have my mom or my family watching him. But he doesn't go through everything. Anything that's local, i'll try to take him, but yeah, right now, since I'm traveling a lot, Anything he could go to, I'll try to take him. You traveling a lot? Traveling a lots right now, man. Are you traveling more for the fights or also for some media stuff? A little bit of both, but mostly for the fights. Yeah, I have a few shows coming up right now. New York City, March 8th. Queens at the Elks Lodge.

Nice. March 22nd in New Jersey. That's going to be at Ridge Park, New jersey. I got Austin, no, it's Austin Texas. Texas, for Forth Rope, that's gonna be a big one. For Thrope is the company that I went viral with. Westside Gun, Smoke Dizza, shout out to them. With their platform and with what they're doing with me, it's putting me on the limelight right now. That's going to be exciting, man. You're going have to give me a list of, I'm going end up going on one, right? Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah that'll be good.

I'll bring some of the team members and stuff. Whenever you guys are ready, bring the whole team. So this shift, man, I'm gonna go back to that because at age 30, that's not an easy thing to do, right? You decide to commit to it, but now you got the work-life balance. You got a certain thing. Your child was just born, so there's a mindset component. How did you deal with juggling all of this stuff? Trial and tribulations. I dealt with a lot of ups, a lotta downs. There was times that I wanted to quit, there was many times I that wanted quit.

It's not easy, especially at my age, with my child being autistic, dealing with his situation, I was going through a divorce.

Building the Cha-Cha Charlie Persona 21:00

Just a lot of stuff was happening that wasn't on my side or my favor. But when I was wrestling, that was like my free space. That's where I felt more comfortable. that's when i forgot about everything. I just was always in a happy place anytime I'm in the ring. Right before the current, I always get nervous. It's always nerve wracking. But once you hit the stage and you see the crowd cheering you, it's like the best feeling in the world. You get that energy, man. The high frequency is coming in.

Yeah, that high energy. That that's what motivated me to to continue I have a lot of people that that are looking up to me right now, you know, my my son looks up To me, but there's a lotta kids a Lot of kids they they're big fans of cha-cha charlie and uh, You know Seeing them smile seeing them happy That's that. That what what makes me do all this afterwards. So so I want to talk about that because you, know some people They have a lot of kids that follow them, you know, celebrities, athletes, and you have the ability to make different choices, right?

Good choices. Bad choices you got the the, ability make a choice of leading people in the right direction. What do you wanna do with having that opportunity where all these kids are looking up to you? Because you got celebrities out there, man. They know they got tons of kids watching them. And then all of a sudden, they're doing things that it's just like not good for the kid's mindset and whatnot. Where do see yourself leading these children in a positive way? I want them to see me as a role model.

If they have a dream, becoming a wrestler or whatever they want to be when they're growing up, I wanna be that guy that says, it doesn't matter what time, doesn' matter when you start, if you focus, you put your mind to it, You put in the work, the dedication. I wanted to that be guy, that they say, hey if Cha Cha Charlie did it I could do it too. And again, making them smile, make them happy. I want to be that guy that the crowd looks up to. That's amazing. Who was your favorite wrestler growing up?

I was always one of the good guys. Then when Hulk Hogan turned into a bad guy, I cried for that one day, but I instantly became a member of the NWO. Yeah, yeah. That's my era. Those are the guys that I used to watch every day when I use to wake up. and those are my guys right there. And I tell you man, when we're talking about being a positive light to the children, man I'll tell ya, in my opinion, The Rock has nailed it. He was always just, even til today, he's just like, his outgoing personality, charisma, all of that stuff.

Yeah, you got to have all that. You got have charisma. you gotta be likable. If you're a bad guy, You gotta play the role of a bag guy.You gotta make him hate you. But yeah, no, that's what it takes. The rock is a perfect example of how big he's gotten because of the world of wrestling. Yeah. All right. Here goes the next one, man. Favorite female wrestler growing up? Growing up. Ugh, that's a tough one. I want to say Medusa, because she was the champion for a long time. Medusa is who I grew up watching.

So yeah, I'll pick her. I remember Chyna. Chynna was cool. Yeah, she changed the game. She was a different flavor. Um, She came here. she was beating up everybody. Girls, guys. China was the real factor when it came to wrestling. I wasn't too crazy big a wrestler, but my brother, who's two years older than me, man, he was all in it.

Motivation, Role Model Mindset, and Community Work 25:18

I mean, my parents would take him and everything. So, you know, I was just like, by default, always exposed to it, He used to be like dressed like the rock and every thing, the little eyebrow thing and whatnot. Yeah, wrestling is around everybody. You might not like it but the person right next to you loves it growing up in New York City, growing in Washington Heights is not the best neighborhood in the world at that time. My friends didn't like wrestling, but guess what? I will put them on a sharpshooter.

I would rock bottom them in the bed or outside. Even when I was getting into street fights, I put people on wrestling moves. So yeah, that was in a different level. Yeah, yeah. That's amazing, bro. What does Cha-Cha Charlie do to give back to the community? Oh, do a lot. Again, since my My son is autistic. I'm involved with, you know, with autism. My, I go to hospitals. Uh, visit kids. Um, sometimes I do speeches. Now, when you go, and you'd go like Charlie, Charlie man, the hat is everything. The hat, it's the gimmick.

uh, won't wrestle if the head is not there. And you wear it. Yeah, that's part of my finish move. At the end, if I hit you with the mongoose splash. The mongoo splash is is a modified frog splash, it's my version. It's with a hat. If I if i hit it with them and go splash with that hat on, there's no kicking out one, two, three game over. And for the listeners who don't know what mungu is, explain to them what Mungoo. So it is it a plantain, a squashed plantaine. It's almost like a potato, like smashed potato.

But it's the plantain version. It is a Dominican dish where you eat it with onions, salami, queso frito. You could do the eggs, fried eggs. Give me a napkin, I'll start a salad. I'm drooling over here. Hit you with the golden fist right there, right quick. So if you're Dominican, you grow up eating this. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, my goo. So basically, um, My opponent becomes a squash plantain after I hit him with it. I love it I Love it So what are the next big things for cha-cha charlie? You know, the the goal is is always to get signed by a major company like wwe awtna Um, that's always the go.

Um But again, I'm in that stage right now where I am 40, 40 years old. It's now or never for me. So I gotta do it. I could keep up with the best of them. If I can keep with all the young kids. Am as good as them or even better. And right know, sky's the limit. Im running with what I got. Signed or not, imma keep doing what im doing and ima try to make it my way no matter what. I love that. Backstage you were telling me about how you get a lot of support from the people around you. In making a commitment that you have at your age, having the full-time job, the family and everything else, you need people in your circle to support what you're doing.

You were talking about your job. you traveling and whatnot. So I want the listeners to hear you talk about how they can make it happen. Because there's somebody out there who's listening to the podcast that wants to fulfill that dream for their life. That they might be 30 years old, they may be 35 years. Let's talk your circle and how the support you. Yeah, it's about balance. Balancing your career, balancing your life, and focusing on what you want and what really want to do. Because if you wanna be anything, you just gotta work hard and push to your goal.

The team around me, they're supportive. My mom is there for me. Even my boss. So, you know, Monday through Friday, I have a regular job. I sell insurance, commercial auto business, homeowners, auto insurance. Injury insurance? In injury insurance you have every policy for yourself? I got everything for myself. You have to. The a flat? Yeah. Yeah, that you had to have it all. Um, From nine to five, I'm selling insurance for Booker Bay Insurance. My boss understands my main career, my goal. He's with me, he understands.

So he gives me a lot of leeway on focusing on my wrestling because he sees something in me. Thanks to him, you know, am able to manage my regular job and then my, wrestling job. And then you have positivity also, positive energy. Positivity is the key to success. A lot of negative things are going to come your way, but you just got to eliminate that some way somehow and just roll with the punches, go. Be positive. Being positive helped me a lot and that's why I think I'm here where I am at right now.

Keep on pressing forward, man. Do you ever see yourself fighting in the Dominican Republic? Yeah, yeah, it's going to happen actually. It's gonna happen pretty soon. What are the big leagues out there? The main promotion is DWE, which is Dominican Wrestling Entertainment. They're the one that's on TV over there. We're working something out right now as we speak. Oh, you are? Okay. Yeah, yeah. Where are they based out of? What city over here? I think it's the capital, Santo Domingo.

Future Goals and Social Media 31:27

Not too sure, don't quote me on that, but that that is what I'd think. But they're there the brand that on T.V. They bring a lot of big names all the time. They've brought Carlito, Caribbean Cool, the Colones. And now, you know, with having the Dominican people behind my back, I think it's only right to bring me there soon. Yeah, of course. You're doing it not just for yourself, but for the country, too. For the culture. With the video that went viral, the comments were going nuts. There's a lot of people who are like, he doesn't even look Dominican, looks Mexican because of the hat, because the way I dance.

I'm doing it my way. When I started the Dominican... Because wrestling is not really big in the Dominican Republic. But it's big in Latin America. It's with the Puerto Rican culture. Big with Mexican culture and I wanted everyone to relate to me. I want everyone like me not just the Spanish culture, Americans, Europeans, everyone. My goal was to become relatable and have everyone to support me. But now that the Dominican culture is having my back, it's a major plus. Oh yeah, yeah. That's amazing, man.

When you're able to do that for your own people. You know, growing up, it just clicked, man. My dad was really big into wrestling, but from the DR. And I guess the person that he used to watch, and the reason why I know this is, as we were already older, I was probably like 14 and I'm the youngest out of four kids, my dad started ordering online these masks of a wrestler and he would explain to me, he's like, oh, this was my favorite wrestler growing and it was El Santo. You familiar with El Santo?

And my dad, till today, he has the real mask. He spent a lot of money on it. This is spectacular. And I couldn't understand it, but until I actually started researching it... I get why he was so in love with El Santo. It was really big for him. But that was my dad's favorite wrestler growing up, in the D.R. That was a really, big thing. Lo Bronco, Broncos numero uno, broncos número dos, those are Dominican legends there. And then of course, Jack Venano was the big, he was to John Cena. He was The Hulk Hogan.

So if you mentioned him, Jack Vanano, I'm sure right away he's going to jump off the seat. Yeah, there's actually a movie on him that dropped. or four years ago or something like that before he passed away. Yeah, my dad was always big into martial arts, man. He was a black belt kung fu in the DR. So think about it. They're not gonna have a lot of kung-fu people in there. And we grew up doing martial art and everything. My dad one of the senseis that would help and teach and whatnot. Like the mask, My goal is for people to see me but with my hat.

You know, they wanna get the hat, the cha-cha hat And the same way your dad, you know, the mask is big. The boy have the cha-cha hat. So do you have like custom apparel and stuff that you do? Yeah. Yeah, so the Cha-Cha hats, hit me up on Instagram, on my social media or at the events. I bring them at events, I'll sign them for you. We take pictures and then we'll be dancing and celebrating all night long. I love it, I loved it. So Cha Cha Charlie, man, as we wrap up here, if there's one person out there that's listening that can resonate with your story, right, and they wanna do something big in life the way that you've done and you're gonna keep on doing it what's that one thing that your gonna leave them off with?

Focus, focus, Don't ever stop, don't stop. There's gonna be many reasons that you're gonna wanna stop but if there's something that really wanna do in life, sky's the limit, push forward. It takes a lot of hard work and dedication. The grinding is what was gonna help you achieve your goals at the end of the day. So always keep pushing. Stay positive. It's all a mental thing and just push as hard as you can. You never know how big or how far you could go. Guys, you guys are hearing it from the guy who has done it himself.

The proof is in the pudding. He's doing it. he's doin' it big. you're seeing him all over the place. Where can people find you? You can find me on Instagram. It's Cha Cha Time. My Twitter with X, it's cha cha time. YouTube ChaChaCharlieTV. Cha cha Charlie. TikTok is Cha Cha Time, Facebook, ChaChaCharlie. I'm easy to find, cha cha Charlie this, chacha Charlie that. And once you hit me up, let me know what's good and there's gonna be one big party and we will be celebrating and dancing all night long.

It's Cha cha time. I appreciate you coming up. Yeah, absolutely. And all those links and stuff, they're going to be down below. Everybody's going be able to see it. So, brother, I'd appreciate it you. Thank you, thank you for having me. It's an honor.