Full Transcript Introduction and Dr. Trowbridgeu2019s Background 0:00 everybody's on this Ozempic thing. 0:02 You don't understand. 0:03 These drugs can rot your organs from the inside out. 0:07 And now there's a class action lawsuit on blindness from Ozmpic. 0:11 Well, you want to risk that? 0:13 Go ahead. 0:19 Hi there, welcome back to the Healthy by Dr. 0:21 Jenn podcast. 0:22 Today we're going to be talking to someone that has been practicing integrative medicine probably longer than anyone you know. 0:29 So today we have Dr John Trowbridge. 0:32 He is educated in biological sciences at Stanford and medical medicine at Case Western Reserve. 0:38 he pursued post-graduate training in urological surgery at the Texas Medical Center and now he resides in Houston, Texas. 0:47 Beyond graduate studies in immunology, he also completed master level education in preventative and nutritional medicine, 0:54 and he's recognized internationally as an expert in integrative medicine. 0:58 He received the Distinguished Lifetime Achievement Award from the International College of Integrative Medicine and was honored as a fellow as the American 1:06 College for Advancement in Medicine, And was named top doc in advanced medicine by Marquis Hoo Hooves. 1:12 So he is a pilot also, which he loves. 1:16 And he has authored over five dozen CDs and DVDs on integrative medicine and written books also. 1:23 So we are so excited to have him for his expertise and honored. 1:28 Welcome. 1:28 Thank you. 1:29 What a pleasure to be here. 1:30 Holding these interviews is such a great way for you to share with the world what's really happening. 1:37 Yeah. 1:38 Well, so what do you think is happening with integrative medicine? 1:41 Because you've been doing this a really long time. 1:44 I'm worried about what's happening because everybody is trying to figure out how to make a living in medicine. 1:50 So they're going to an integrator medicine conference. 1:54 and come back and having had an hour lecture, they're now going to be an expert in that particular area. 2:01 No, you can't take conventional medical thinking and apply it to integrated medicine because you miss the whole concept of the integration. 2:11 And it's worrisome in this regard. 2:13 I have patients who tell me, well, nobody's ever done that. 2:15 Well, of course not. 2:16 They're not practicing integrated medicines. 2:19 they are just doing a little snippets of what they think they understand.
What Real Integrative Medicine Requires 2:23 Yes. 2:24 Okay. 2:24 Because this is something that I've been talking about lately because it is bothering me because I, you know, we just moved to Nashville and everyone calls 2:34 themselves functional medicine here and they've had a weekend long training, but people don't see it that it's advertising and it almost like functional 2:42 and integrative medicine is almost just becoming like conventional medicine. 2:45 Exactly. 2:46 You know, and you kind of hit it like they're just expecting to know it all. 2:51 So what do you think, you know because I've had many mentors, for me it took a long time to get into this medicine. 2:57 What do think would be, what would the perfect recipe for integrative medicine? 3:03 The perfect recipe is to get good conventional training so you understand physiology, pathophysiology, the biochemistry of how it works wrong. 3:16 That's a good fundamental place. 3:18 Because people who don't have that don' understand the workings of the system in order to impact it really well. 3:25 After that, plan on taking several years To study this, it is not easy because you've got to go back and look at, you know, 3:33 that's why I got a master's in nutrition. 3:35 Cause I needed to figure out what I was really doing. 3:39 Okay. 3:40 And the, the story is, is you have to become a perpetual student and doctors. 3:47 Sometimes they just don't want to study anymore. 3:49 They're ready to get out and practice and make a living and whatever. 3:54 It's much more fun to be a student of integrated medicine. 3:57 Because you're learning every single day. 3:59 Oh, it's humbling for sure. 4:00 Absolutely. 4:01 I'm like, oh, I call it when I go down PubMed rabbit holes. 4:05 Exactly. 4:06 And studies or forums or, you know, our text messages that we have with colleagues. 4:11 So it, like you said, is continuing learning because now it is being kind of advertised as you go to a conference, get a certification, 4:19 and you can But it's called practice because you have to keep doing it and keep learning. 4:26 I love to have the complicated patients come in that are a challenge for me because that's where I'm really going to learn. 4:32 A lot of background and experience I can see virtually anybody, but when I look at them and go, what do I need to know here? 4:42 That's the fun part of continuing practice. 4:44 And this is still happening. 4:46 You're still learning from your patients today. 4:48 Oh, gosh, yes. 4:48 Absolutely. 4:49 People ask me, well, when are you going to retire? 4:51 And I go, what would I do? 4:53 I'm having too much fun practicing medicine. 4:56 That's what I say. 4:57 I probably won't ever retire fully, but maybe slow down when I get older. 5:05 But I think that that's important because the mentorship aspect is getting missed. 5:13 Yeah, and talking to colleagues about difficult cases and walking through it with the patient and learning together sometimes. 5:21 Sometimes I've had patients ask me about stuff like bee venom treatment. 5:25 You know, this was a couple of years ago and I'm like, you know I don't know but I am going to learn it you and we are going see if it's something you 5:31 should do. 5:32 So that happens a lot. 5:33 You know, it helps if, if you really will learn something in order to educate others to speak at meetings, to write articles and books. 5:41 I'll have patients tell me, well, you know so-and-so does integrated medicine. 5:45 And I go, okay. 5:46 So how many books have they written? 5:48 How many lectures have the delivered? 5:49 Have they been a professor in chief? 5:51 Whatever. 5:55 It turns out none. 5:56 Okay, well, wait a minute, they're just, you know, milking the system in practice. 6:01 They're not actually contributing to it. 6:04 Yes, and that is when I go down my rabbit holes when preparing lectures. 6:08 Oh, absolutely. 6:08 Yes. 6:09 And then you become an expert on that topic. 6:13 I think if doctors out there are listening and they are just practicing because they went to a weekend course, apply to speak at places. 6:22 Go to more conferences. 6:24 That is important. 6:26 Share. 6:26 Yeah, that's great. 6:27 Exactly. 6:28 So you say that conventional medicine stop asking questions About five questions too early.
Root-Cause Thinking and Personalized Care 6:35 At least five. 6:37 What do you mean by that? 6:38 So if you come in, you have heart disease, okay? 6:40 But they immediately go toward treatment. 6:42 I go, well, why do YOU have a heart? 6:45 Because you know, everybody thinks of heart diseases as blockage. 6:48 But that's just the blood flow. 6:50 The muscle can have its own problems. 6:52 That's cardiomyopathies. 6:54 And the real question is, okay, so if that happening, then why did that happen? 6:58 Then why that? 6:59 And you go back until you find the fundamental reasons inside. 7:03 Of course, often it's the gut. 7:05 Yeah. 7:05 Okay. 7:05 Often there's other issues going on. 7:08 And if you address your treatment there, I tell people it's like, if I treat the roots, i don't have to treat every branch of the tree. 7:15 And finding out the basis makes it so much easier to take care of patients. 7:20 But I like how you said, like, you don't have to take care of the other parts of trees because that's how conventional medicine is. 7:26 Everything is a specialist. 7:28 Absolutely. 7:28 And I'm like it's just root cause. 7:30 I was so blessed when I had my brick and mortar in Ohio.I was like the only integrative practitioner and that was it. 7:37 People would just word of mouth, people would come to me and I just grew so much from that because so many weird cases. 7:45 You have figure out what. 7:46 Yes, and it was great. 7:48 And you know, now the problem is when I go to work in the emergency room and I talk to someone, I'm like, well, what's your diet like? 7:56 Let's get to the root cause. 7:57 Yes. 7:58 Yeah, And I remember this vet, he was a vet. 8:01 He served our country in war and stuff and he kept coming in for chest pain. 8:06 I got to The Root Cause, his mom was there. 8:08 We talked about root causes like sleep, like diet, because his cardiac workup was always negative. 8:14 You know, and I so I was getting at the root and they were so grateful and it was just I Was like really like no one's talking to you about this stuff 8:22 and you like But but they stop and why do you think that is do? 8:26 You think doctors are burnt out or? 8:28 Do you remember the roll top desks the old roll-top desk and had all the little holes at? 8:33 the top A lot of times, doctors are trying to put you into a cubby hole. 8:38 You know, if we get a diagnosis, we stick you there, and then we never have to think about you again because you come up with a symptom. 8:44 We say, well, people with your problem get that. 8:47 The only problem is they're not looking for the developmental processes. 8:52 They're looking at mechanics of how we work on the inside and they are dismissing anything that's happening to you because, 9:00 you know, it's all personalized care. 9:02 If it isn't personalized, I don't know. 9:04 You know one size fits none. 9:06 And that is the wonderful challenge of taking care of these patients because everybody has their own little unique twist and you have to figure that out. 9:16 Yeah, and that's what's interesting, because when I talk to people about what I do with patients, I'm like, it's not cookie cutter. 9:21 I wish it was sometimes. 9:23 Because there's protocols that I have for things, but it is always like everyone is on their different plan because I am adjusting it to their life because 9:34 things come up. 9:35 They can't be put in a hole. 9:39 And who would want to be? 9:40 Who would wanna be treated like that? 9:41 Well, that depends because sometimes people just want the convenience of I go in and get a pill and I've done. 9:46 You know, I tell my patients when I'm finishing their first consultation, and I go, now you have a new job. 9:51 And they go what's that? 9:52 And I have to bitch, moan and groan. 9:55 What does that mean? 9:56 They go I had the theme, an idea, a style about how I am going to help take care of you, but that has to be personalized. 10:03 So you get in touch and say this is happening or this the response I've had to something. 10:09 You have let me know. 10:10 They say I don't want to bother. 10:12 It's not bothering me, it's allowing me to continue managing you. 10:16 I like to say you're on a short leash, because I want to be managing in between treatments. 10:25 And so when I have you in the office, we'll have a different style, but in-between I need to know what's going on. 10:31 Yeah, that's so funny. 10:32 I just had a patient last week that opened up and they were like, just dumping all this stuff on me. 10:36 And they're like... 10:37 They're, like I feel so bad. 10:48 And I was like, thank you for telling me all that because I really then got to narrow down where we needed to focus on for this visit and what was going on. 11:00 It's so beautiful and crazy, but if you actually listen to the patient, they'll tell you what's wrong with them. 11:06 They'll always give us what we need. 11:08 Absolutely. 11:09 But I'm sorry, we don't have time, got to guess the next patient, you know? 11:13 And no, that's not, and I have people say, well, your so expensive. 11:17 And I go, Well, let's see. 11:19 I've taken care of basically all of your complaints. 11:21 You're not going to different specialists. 11:23 Well but, And the reason that people stay sick, insurance, reimbursement.
Yeast Syndrome, Candida, and Parasites 11:28 Because all these other doctors are covered and therefore they don' have, they're just paying with their health and their life. 11:36 As well as taking time out of their day to go see these doctors and then they're getting all these toxic medications or whatever. 11:44 You can pay for whatever you want in your life. 11:47 In my case, I've found a wonderful way of helping people. 11:50 That's what it costs. 11:51 Our health should be the one thing that should. 11:53 Be the priority. 11:54 Yes. 11:55 You know, we spent all of our life getting our money. 11:58 Okay. 11:59 And then we spend all our. 12:00 Money try to regain our health. 12:02 Whatever. 12:02 Yeah. 12:03 It's, it's a bummer. 12:05 So what led you to write the book, the yeast syndrome book. 12:10 So I just think that that has such a big problem in America and that's such A fun title. 12:16 Oh, thank you. 12:17 Um You know in 1983 I was learning about chelation Wow 82 actually and and uh, I visited uh myelin pakovich in pittsburgh And I was looking at things on 12:31 his wall and I said, what's this about yeast? 12:34 He says, oh, you don't know about yeasts. 12:35 I go, no, he says there's a conference coming up. 12:38 And so I scheduled to go there and go my gosh, this explains almost everything. 12:43 Okay. 12:45 So I started looking and started treating patients. 12:48 Uh, the excitement that I had was. 12:50 when you're right on, you are taking care of them and if you miss it, they won't ever get better, okay? 12:56 And so I started collecting information and then I thought, the Yeast Connection was a marvelous book, and I got to see that as my friend was writing it 13:09 and this is good, but his was different kind of book I wanted a little bit more reference to the literature and so on. 13:16 So that came out and I got denied by 17 publishers in New York until finally one of them said, okay. 13:24 And, you know, so it has been a long selling strong backlister is what they call it. 13:30 Yeah. 13:30 Still published. 13:32 Well, what do you say to people that they don't believe we can have yeast, candida, mold in our guts and that it's not causing a problem? 13:39 What do say you to them? 13:41 I say that's fine. 13:42 You can believe whatever you want. 13:44 It's just whatever is happening because the yeast is not the problem. 13:48 Producing toxins, the toxins are affecting your biochemistry that is making symptoms and such. 13:53 The problem is your defense system. 13:56 because you are tolerating it for whatever reason. 13:59 One good reason is doctors prescribe antibiotics, but never probiotics to regenerate the good bacteria in your gut. 14:06 And so we end up constantly getting sicker over time. 14:09 The deal is that until your defense system is fixed, you will constantly suffer and you go to different doctors and such. 14:19 Why not go the root cause and stop the need for all the symptoms to develop? 14:25 Yeah, so with yeast and Candida, you think it's a defense problem. 14:31 Always. 14:32 And because it is overgrown, because our defenses were down. 14:35 It's been tolerated, exactly. 14:37 Of course, one of the first things that yeast does as a toxicity is damage your defense system and especially the B-cell lymphocytes, 14:46 and those are the ones that defend against parasites. 14:48 of course yeast being a parasite. 14:50 And then you have to start looking for the other parasites and viruses and whatever that can occur because you a wide open door with your B cells being sicker. 15:00 So people don't realize that if you follow the chain, you can establish where it's starting. 15:07 Cut it there. 15:08 You don' have have worry about the rest of your body will take care of it. 15:10 God built this incredibly beautiful system to heal you if create the situation to do that. 15:17 Yeah, if we get back into homeostasis. 15:19 There is a good part, yes. 15:20 Hope is not lost. 15:21 Well, what about parasites? 15:23 Because when you start talking parasites, people just give you a weird look. 15:28 I mean, I've seen that a lot. 15:30 Oh, absolutely. 15:30 What do you mean parasites. 15:31 Right, we're a very clean country. 15:33 We don't have parasites just the rest of the world does. 15:35 Yeah. 15:36 Of course you have to remember. 15:37 We have to remember who's serving our food, preparing our foods, and whatever. 15:41 And the sign says, employees must wash their hands after. 15:45 They didn't know. 15:46 I mean, come on, guys. 15:47 Right. 15:48 What you really have understand is that parasites are non-discriminatory. 15:54 The problem is against your defense system is tolerating. 15:57 Okay? 15:59 And if you don't realize it, then people are going to end up with trouble. 16:04 In general, I don't start with parasite treatment, but if I'm having someone who's stubbornly not getting better, you know, 16:11 sometimes a parasite will do. 16:13 And incidentally, very difficult to diagnose because parasites are stealthy. 16:19 They kind of have like our chemistry, so you can't really readily diagnose them. 16:22 What you have to do is listen, look at their symptoms, figure out what you think is most likely and what is the most-likely treatment. 16:29 If you've done that for years, then be pretty good at it. 16:34 Yeah, and parasites, do you think though, because we are all exposed to parasites that we should a couple times a year do a parasite cleanse like we do, 16:43 like I just did for my cows? 16:44 Yes, yes. 16:45 Okay. 16:46 Think about that. 16:47 We treat all of our animals. 16:50 That live in our house, that lick their butts. 16:53 Exactly, yeah, they live out in the fields. 16:54 No, we're attending to their needs and ignoring ours. 16:58 And that makes no sense. 16:59 So yes, I think parasite cleanses make sense, parasite treatment makes sense But the real question is, to what extent does someone want to be proactive? 17:09 And to that extent, I get some of those, and there are ways to take care of these patients because you hardly ever have to see them. 17:17 They're proactive. 17:17 Yeah, they're being proactive, so how many times a year would you recommend it? 17:22 Or if you have an exposure or eat sushi or something like that, what do you... 17:27 you know, once or twice a year, depends on your symptoms. 17:30 And your lifestyle. 17:31 Your lifestyle, and if you stay relatively symptom-free and eat cleanly, that's a problem now. 17:37 You know McDonald's French fries have 17 ingredients, okay? 17:42 And in England there are three and salt is optional. 17:45 Right. 17:45 Then you go, why are we killing ourselves with our food? 17:49 Well, we are because the FDA is controlled by the chemical folks. 17:53 Yes. 17:55 Until that changes, It's going to be hard to get clean food unless you raise it yourself. 18:01 Back to the parasites, where do you think the biggest exposure of parasites for people are? 18:07 Food, no question. 18:09 Any specific food? 18:12 I don't know. 18:14 Good question. 18:15 But I think basically, if you're eating air, food, water, that's where we get all of our contamination. 18:22 And the food is the easy one. 18:24 Yeah. 18:26 It's pretty interesting since having a mini farm.
Deep Blood Fungus and Chronic Disease 18:30 thinking about how to prevent all these diseases with my chickens and my cows without using drugs. 18:35 And with chickens, I give them a lot of like herbs in there and it gets expensive, you know, because I'm like buying bulk herbs, 18:41 but, it's pretty cool. 18:42 But we don't do this, for ourselves, we cook with less and less like oregano and like basil and things that are naturally anti-parasitic. 18:50 Good things. 18:51 Yeah. 18:51 Well, since we're recording live. 18:53 You know we can grow in five gallon buckets on our back porch. 18:57 Yeah. 18:58 A lot of the vegetables that we'd like to eat very readily done. 19:02 And, and people don't need to have a big garden. 19:05 Don't have to take a lot time. 19:06 It's amazing how much fruit or how vegetable a plant can produce and you've got a two or three of them, you got more than your family can eat. 19:15 Right. 19:16 We just got to get smarter. 19:18 But a lot of this information is not readily available because it's not supposed to be. 19:26 One other thing I wanted to ask you, I'm intrigued by this, deep blood fungus. 19:31 What is that? 19:32 Well, this is an interesting concept. 19:35 A doctor in Arizona had an interest in immunology, and I used to talk all the time. 19:41 He realized that there were deeper infections that were not being looked for and therefore not found. 19:48 Okay. 19:49 And one of the first ones he found was pheneliformis mucii. 19:53 That's a plant fungus. 19:55 A plant root fungus, actually. 19:57 And you know, you shouldn't be able to document that in human blood. 20:01 Then he found others as well. 20:04 How do you explain that to patients? 20:05 So I came up with the idea of deep blood fungus and that's my term. 20:09 I have a couple hour lecture on the YouTube about that from years ago. 20:13 But the problem was, and he had a very elegant laboratory set up to really do this, the insurance companies didn't want to pay for it and the patients 20:21 didn' want pay. 20:22 So unfortunately that is not available anymore. 20:24 It has to be all you know symptom based and experience based but treating it is different than treating the yeast syndrome and I know that because I had 20:33 some patients with yeast and deep blood fungus and look at this and you go wait a minute there's a different set here and the deep-blood fungus is associated 20:43 with so many strange diseases, especially autoimmune diseases and especially those serious ones that that seem to linger in patients into, 20:51 you know, the problem with conventional medicine, if we don't know what to do, it's cortisone and chemotherapy. 20:56 Right. 20:57 And like, wait a second, guys, those seem be very drastic treatments when there's an underlying cause. 21:02 Yes. 21:02 Treat that and then you don' have to worry about the other issues. 21:06 I love it when I get sick patients because I got the chance to really get them healthier. 21:11 Yes, or monoclonal antibodies are like everything now. 21:15 Yeah. 21:16 Well, you know what's interesting though? 21:17 You would find this intriguing. 21:19 So histoplasmosis, right? 21:21 Like from chickens and the poop and chicken dust and bats. 21:24 Yes. 21:25 Really interesting. 21:26 I just got chickens over the last year and I was cleaning out their cage a little bit or just in there without a respirator. 21:33 Okay. 21:34 because I just didn't think, because it was open. 21:37 It was out in the open, it wasn't doing really crazy things and I was getting this chronic cough and respiratory and it's histoplasmosis that I'm at this 21:49 level where my body cannot deal with it well and these are my symptoms. 21:54 Because our body, if we have symptoms that are off, we had to figure out what was the root cause behind that, unless it is something obvious like food 22:01 poisoning or something. 22:03 I took Iterconazole for a couple of days and got instantly better. 22:07 Gone. 22:07 Right. 22:08 Yes. 22:09 And I was like, and then the same thing happened. 22:11 Of course, it's happening during my luteal phase where my progesterone's, you know, where, anyway, immune-wise, more susceptible. 22:19 It changes, right? 22:20 Exactly. 22:20 Yeah. 22:21 So, so cool. 22:21 Then it happened, I just was, like honey, just don't feel good. 22:24 I'm in my late lutes and I am like it is the chickens because I had done something else and just something so little in their cage. 22:31 And I was like, that is why I took an intracone gun. 22:34 So it was almost like a deep... 22:36 Do you see that that correlates? 22:38 Isn't that kind of cool? 22:39 That's a wonderful correlation. 22:41 Untreated, you would go on and have the prospect of being able to develop deep blood fungus. 22:47 Remember, it's your defense system. 22:48 So anything that's banging on your defense system is making you more likely to develop deeper issues. 22:54 Interesting. 22:55 And those then are what the diseases of older age are, okay? 23:01 The degenerative diseases are very often have an infection base. 23:05 Yeah. 23:06 Okay. 23:06 Well, yeah, and it makes sense. 23:08 Even cancer, because cancer is the immune system not operating properly. 23:13 Exactly. 23:14 There's a great deal of, quote, cancer that really is fungus. 23:18 And that's why the anti-parasites and stuff are working so well. 23:21 Exactly. 23:21 Like ivermectin and fibendazole. 23:23 Interesting, yeah. 23:25 I mean, because I see this working out, but I've never heard of like that deep blood fungus kind of... 23:31 And remember the The form of attack that is most deadly to us is the mitochondria in our membranes. 23:38 The mitochondrial energy factories, so we decrease the ability of cells to work and defend themselves. 23:43 To do what they're supposed to do, yeah. 23:44 And if your membrans are in trouble, you no longer have the abilities to keep things sorted out well on the inside, and you become sicker. 23:52 You know, it's ridiculous to see that half the people are going to die by the time they are 76. Why? 23:59 You should be well maintained. 24:01 And membranes, you mean like mouth to anus. 24:04 Every membrane, cell membrane's in your body. 24:06 Even cell membrane. 24:07 Absolutely. 24:08 Your organs don't get sick. 24:11 You're organelles, the cellular parts get stick. 24:16 Then whichever one shows up first is the specialist you go to and now you have liver disease or kidney disease, whatever.
Mitochondria, Clotting, and Ozempic Warnings 24:22 But you don' All you had is cellular disease Find out what's banging on those cells and why the defense system is not defending you. 24:31 Those are the ways to treat patients. 24:33 Yeah. 24:34 Well, and that's why like mitochondria, like you said, your whole body mitochondrial needs to be healthy. 24:39 And I try to explain that to patients, if you don't feel good energy, If you have adequate energy to make it through the day, 24:48 then your mitochondrion are suffering. 24:49 Then we have to find out why. 24:50 You have so much energy. 24:52 Can I ask how old you are? 24:54 This next week, I'll be 79. 79! Wow. 24:58 Well, you are a billboard for what you do. 25:01 Thank you. 25:01 That's amazing. 25:02 All right, well, thank you so much for this interview. 25:06 I feel like we have to do a part two via Zoom sometime. 25:08 Good idea. 25:10 But I would love to some rapid fire questions. 25:13 Please. 25:13 What is your, and I mean, in all of the years practicing integrative medicine, what is you favorite biohack or therapy that actually works? 25:21 Okay, you're a natokinase fan. 25:23 Yes. 25:24 Because if you take a look, the things that are devastating that happen are heart attacks, strokes, blindness, kidney failure, 25:31 gangrene. 25:32 Those are clotting system problems. 25:34 Natokinis is the simplest way for anybody to take care of that. 25:40 It does not interrupt cloting. 25:45 And, you know, babies are soft and rubbery and smell good and older folks are none of the same. 25:49 Babies are alkaline. 25:51 Older folks, acidotic. 25:52 And that's where you make more fiber and randomly. 25:54 It's like teenagers looking for a rumble, battle kinase. 25:59 Oh, I had been taking that on and off since the pandemic and now I guess I'll have to add it back in. 26:05 Okay, let's go. 26:06 You convinced me. 26:07 My book on clotting systems was 55 years ago. 26:11 And when I saw this 26 years ago when it first came in the country, I said that's the solution, that it. 26:17 That's how you handle the fact that we still make abnormal clotting and such. 26:22 And our bodies haven't changed. 26:25 It's still the same. 26:26 Absolutely. 26:26 Still the the problems. 26:27 We're calling it different stuff. 26:28 Exactly. 26:30 If you could eliminate one toxin from the world today, what would it be? 26:34 without question, glyphosate. 26:36 That's just, it's permeating all of our food sources. 26:39 It is damaging us on the inside. 26:41 And unfortunately, patients don't understand the concept of inner damage. 26:45 So everybody's on this ozempic thing. 26:48 You don' understand. 26:49 These drugs can rot your organs from the outside out. 26:53 Now there's a class action lawsuit on blindness from ozepic. 26:56 Well, you want to risk that? 26:58 Go ahead. 27:00 And then last thing, just one word. 27:03 One word only that you would like to leave our listeners with. 27:06 Oh, it's very simple. 27:06 It's what I ask my patients. 27:08 What do you do every day for joy? 27:10 Joy, yeah. 27:11 Just for yourself, for Joy. 27:12 People go, well, that's the wrong answer. 27:16 Okay. 27:17 Right. 27:17 You have to be able to rattle off a dozen things because life should be joyful every minute of every date.
Joy, Final Advice, and Where to Find Dr. Trowbridge 27:23 If you're not having joy, Why bother going through the motions? 27:29 You get to a point when you're older and you realize, joy, that's it. 27:33 It's the only thing that matters. 27:35 That's great. 27:36 Well, thank you so much. 27:37 How can everyone listening find you? 27:39 Oh, it's very simple. 27:41 On the internet, my website is HealthChoicesNow.com because if you don't know you have Health Choices Now, You don't have any, 27:51 okay? 27:52 If they want to call the office, it's 1-800-FIX-PAIN. 27:55 And it is very simple and, you know, we're more than happy to, well, even do teleconsulting across the country. 28:01 It's very easy, but, giving people better is not that hard. 28:07 Even with the, quote, most complicated problems, those are the fun ones. 28:11 Because that's what everybody has missed. 28:14 That's great. 28:15 Well, thank you so much for your knowledge. 28:18 You are a pleasure to interview with. 28:20 Thank you.
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