Well, dr Klatz Ron class is such an honor to have you on this segment of regenerative medicine summit. Thank you so much for joining me. Oh, it is my great pleasure. Um well thank you so much. So I like like people to really understand.

I mean who I'm I'm talking to. I mean you dr Klatz as a physician, medical scientist, futurist and innovator. He coined the term anti aging medicine. So he you are the father of anti aging medicine and is recognized as a leading authority in the new clinical science of anti aging. Med. Listen doctor Klatz is a physician founder and president of the American Academy of Anti aging Medicine in 1980.

For dr Claps was a pioneer in the clinical specialty of preventative medicine. As a principal founder of the National Academy of Sports Medicine and researcher into elite human performance and physiology. DR classes a best selling author and as columnist or senior medical editor to several international medical journals Since 1981 doctor class has been integral in the pioneering exploration of new therapies for the treatment and prevention, prevention of age related degenerative diseases.

He is the inventor, developer or administrator of 100 plus scientific patterns including the For technologies for brain resuscitation, trauma and emergency medicine, organ transplants and blood preservation.

Today, Dr. Klatz helps to support aging relating a related biotech research and supervisors, postgraduate medical training programs for physicians from 120 countries. You are busy that that that's a lot to do.

Yeah, it's it's kept me off the streets and out of the clubs at night. That's for sure. So, and you are working on an incredible project. I mean right now it's it's going to dr class D R class dot org.

And looking at the project there is that the world Center for anti aging and regenerative medicine. I mean, what what is your vision for that? Because that I mean looking at the images, it just looks incredible.

Well, anti aging medicine is a is a true medical specialty. It's a you can call anti aging medicine, regenerative medicine or functional medicine or uh next generation medicine or precision medicine.

But it's all anti aging medicine. Uh and what it is is it's the next generation of medicine. It's the medicine that is designed to cure you and to reverse aging, not simply to pal e eight your diseases as unfortunately modern traditional medicine has become in the Western world.

And in every specialty of medicine, there is a Center of Excellence, a center where the best people are trained, where the research is actually performed.

Where these are, these are the ground zero for each of the medical specialties. And we all know Sloan Kettering for cancer. And um, you know, the Mayo Clinic for orthopedics and the Hospital for special surgery in new york. And uh there's there's wills eye hospital.

There's dozens and dozens and dozens of centers of Excellence for every medical specialty, including podiatry, proctologist e um aesthetic surgery for every medical specialty except anti aging medicine. And it's it's now time to create such a center where all the different aspects of anti aging medicine, whether they be hormone replacement therapy or stem cells or regenerative medicine, um very focused and advanced physical therapies where they be implants or um syphilitic drugs or you know, uh growth factors, hormones, uh washing the blood from away from impurities, whatever the technology be that's being applied by anti aging medicine positions today, it can all be done under one roof. And unfortunately that's not the case in the world. Right now.

You cannot go anywhere in the world and get the full spectrum of anti aging medicine. You have to go to this clinic, this clinic, that's doctor, that doctor, another doctor. And so when people come to me and they say doctor clouds, where do I go? I want to, I want to get a, you know, a complete anti aging medicine program.

I say there is no place. That's the purpose of the World Center for anti aging medicine. Hopefully there's a, there's someone out there who wants to change the future of health care and who wants to be the patron saint of this new medical specialty. And you know, is willing to write a check so far, not too many people have called me, but maybe after this call may be after this show someone, your audience will say, hey, that's that's an idea.

I'd like to be part of that. Yeah, that's awesome. So, in in your view, I mean, what are the benefits? I mean, if you would sum up what anti aging medicine really is, You know, what what would that be?

Mhm. Anti aging medicine is a is an umbrella term for advanced preventive medicine. It's anything that has to do with the early detection, prevention treatment and or reversal of aging related disease.

And so it's a very wide, wide scope that anti aging medicine uh contains. And so whether it be um advanced procedures in neurosurgery or orthopedic surgery or aesthetic surgery, whether it be hormone replacement therapy, whether it be metabolic interventions or even immune therapies.

Because as we age, we lose our immunity. Anything that reverts our bodies back to a more youthful, higher performance uh basically healthier uh healthier time in your life. This is anti aging medicine and anti aging medicine of effects both the quality of the human lifespan as well as the quantity of the human lifespan.

So the because a lot of people think, well, you know, anti aging, that sounds like, you know, people in Beverly hills, all the rich people cost a lot of money.

But from from my understanding is that preventative and anti aging medicine actually would cost less because it's it's cheaper to prevent and it's cheaper to dress things ahead of the game rather than dealing with our common or our model that we have now, which they call health care, but it's disease care. it is, you know, dealing with diseases when they show up. So it's a late stage intervention when you have to put forth a lot of effort rather than addressing it ahead of time, which is what anti aging and you know, sounds to me, preventative medicine is, you're absolutely correct.

America spends more money on healthcare than any country in the world by a huge factor, a factor of at least five, um More like eight times more than most Western countries. And we're still number of 48 49 as far as longevity in the world. So we're not getting our money's worth.

Our money is not being spent on prevention. Our money is not being spent on a cure. Our money is spent on expensive pills and expensive procedures and late life care that really does very little to improve the life and the quality of the patient. We've got things really best.

Ackwards in Western health care, we have for in my opinion, for the last 30 40 years. Anti aging medicines is trying to reverse some of that. And I think that we've been very successful in doing quite a bit in the last 30 years since 1991 when the american Academy of Anti aging Medicine got its start.

I love that. And I'm yeah, A for m american Academy of anti aging medicine. What what you have brought forth and the the the knowledge of this and how important this kind of therapy is is is tremendous.

Um What I'd like to address also is that you know the the health care that we're having right now. I mean looking at the Pharmacopeia that we think, you know people think that you know real medicine if we're going to have a strong impact and we need pharmaceutical drugs.

Um And so the pharma copia that we have here in the United States compared to what is available. Uh Talk to me a little bit about that. Well what we have is we have the Drug of the Month club.

Um I'm not against pharmaceutical companies, I'm a believer in scientific medicine, I'm a believer in in scientific pharmacology. What I am not in favor of is I'm not in favor of pushing a drug simply because it's on patent and you can make a lot of money with it and that's what happens.

Um There are at least 50,000 drugs that are approved and are part of the U. S. P. Or the United States Pharmacopeia. If you walk into any Walgreens or CVS or chain pharmacy in America, you'd be hard pressed to find a pharmacy that has more than 3-500 drugs on its shelves.

Most of them a lot less. And the majority of drugs that they fulfill prescriptions for are about 50 or 60 And most doctors don't know off the top of their heads more than 30 drugs.

And so how does that work if a doctor only knows 30 drugs and the pharmacy only starts 500 drugs out of five out of 50,000 drugs that are available are proven are part of the U. S. P. U. S. Pharmacopeia.

And that's just the United States. If we go over to Europe and other parts of the world, their Pharmacopeia is over 100,000 drugs. If we go to China, we're looking at another 100 50 200 1000 drugs. So worldwide there are at least 300,000 drugs that are available that are scientifically um categorized that are scientifically formulated and that are available to any hospital or almost any doctor uh in uh in a in a in a in a standardized format.

So who's doing good medicine? How could you be doing good medicine if you only have access to 30 out of 300,000 drugs? And I'm not saying you should be using more drugs actually, I'm saying you should be using less drugs because there's a lot of problems with drugs.

I think overall people are better off with natural therapies, more southern pharmacological therapies. But I'm I'm all for whatever works whether it be natural or or or synthetic. But my point is that there is a lot more to healthcare than is being offered in Western medicine and we need to understand that and open our eyes and demand better.

Yeah. And and I think that's the key is to developing these organizations that you have to drive forth innovation drive forth knowledge to then prevent a lot of these diseases that we seemingly don't have any solutions for like cancer like diabetes, like cardiovascular disease uh to kind of find what to do at its at its root.

So in in your with your broad knowledge of, of anti aging and and being kind of being the father of anti aging, what what are you seeing taking place in that space? That is innovative.

That is that is driving this technology forward. That is the cutting edge. You know that we we should be looking at that. We're not seeing. Well, I don't mean to correct you, but I have a slightly different opinion. I think there are effective therapies for cancers that have not been promoted. I think there are effective therapies for heart disease that have not been promoted. I think that there are effective therapies for diabetes that are not being promoted.

And so none of these diseases is a death sentence including Alzheimer's disease. Uh and these are the therapies that are being educated. We're educating doctors at the American Academy of Anti aging Medicine.

We've trained over 200,000 physicians around the world in these methodologies and these drug therapies and the prognosis for the progression for the velocity of healthcare and where we're going and we're going very far very quickly because if you remember When we got started in 1991, um life expectancy was lower than it is today, and it's been increasing uh constantly until the onset of covid, where things have been a um where things have have gone backwards, but uh Covid aside once Covid is resolved and I think it be um we're going to see a continued uptick expectancy um In many countries around the world, life expectancy is pushing 85 years of age now.

Uh some countries as much as 90 years of age. Um and I personally am predicting life expectancies. Um I'm predicting the age of of of practical, practical immortality as soon as perhaps 2029.

And that's because of the new technologies that are in the laboratory with genetic therapies, stem cell therapies, uh analytic drugs, um Better understandings of how to um undermine the process is the degenerative processes of aging. And when we achieve the age of immortality, life expectancies will rocket past 100 to perhaps 120, perhaps even further.

And that's that's within the not too distant future. If the pharmaceutical companies and the governments get out of the way and allow the technology that's already in the laboratory that's already working in laboratory animals, be applied to people for that purpose. So, tell me a little bit about that.

What what what kind of technology is that? Is that? Uh Yeah, I'd like to, I mean, do you have the ability to talk about a little bit, or Oh, sure there's you know, there's there's there's tons of published research on synthetic drugs and its effect on aging in in rodents and in other species.

The same is true with drugs that help to control um control blood sugar. Uh Metformin trials are out these all these different studies uh you know, uh metabolic treatment of of cancer.

Um Alzheimer's disease, all these studies are showing improvements in life expectancy. If you were to extrapolate from animals to people of 2 to 5 years to 10 years, sometimes 20 years.

Um Even even in dogs and puppy dogs, Purina did a study some time ago where they took young beagles and they put them on a very clean diet and a diet very high in antioxidants. And they found uh a 20% increase in life expectancy in Beagles. Uh Seeing a, you know, a 2030 40% increase in life expectancy in in rodents is very, very common in the scientific literature. And when you look at people um there are there, well, if you just look at these communities that are following an anti aging lifestyle, those are the communities that where you're seeing people who are living, you know, living well past 80 85 90 if you look at the blue zones uh and you can extrapolate from, you know, what is it that they're doing?

They're getting living in a clean environment. They're getting lots of sun and getting lots of exercise and uh they're eating a high antioxidant diet.

So you know, if it works for them, why wouldn't it work for you and me? Yeah, exactly. And when you're talking about analytic drugs, I mean you mean then things like Metformin recognize and you know those those types.

So do you do you feel that that is something there's there's a whole rack of them coming out of the laboratory right now that is very great potential for for for longevity. It's it's it's but it's not one drug unfortunately uh in mice, it's a lot easier to come up with a master drug that's going to affect longevity. People have a more complicated metabolism and they're not as um compliant, nowhere near as compliant as mice.

So with people it's going to take a more complicated approach uh and a more a more systematic approach. But that's okay. We can do it in people. We're seeing it already.

There's a fellow by the name of Gary Noel. Um He's a longtime health writer. Uh He's a he's a he's a nutritional researcher uh PhD and he published over the last few years a number of studies where he took elderly people I think 70 plus um groups of 2030 of them to a ranch in texas that he managed uh he managed this environment, it was a controlled environment. And he took these people who had, you know, these were not superstar 70 year olds. These were not olympians.

These were your your your your uh common um you know nursing home type type type seventies something. Plus your old people they had arthritis, they had diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, early Alzheimer's disease or dementia and he put them on a very strict high um high nutrient diet and he put them on on enforced exercise every day and yoga and uh you know an improved sleeping environment.

And after the course of two weeks three weeks four weeks these people tested uh five years 10 years younger. It was amazing. These people who were working walking with walkers or who were walking needed assistance with walking through away their walking sticks threw away their walkers and we're running many marathons.

That's incredible. And not just that but when you measure their blood pressure, those improved their cognitive function improved. And this was no drugs at all. This was simply environmental and uh and super nutrition so that you know talking about the c c analytics and and seasonal itics, you know for people that don't know, you know our agents that are able to clear out senescent cells, you know that are just kind of hanging out there kind of also term zombies cells that are triggering a lot of inflammation. These are cells that are supposed to die but they're not dying because the immune system is not as fun functioning as well to clear them out. So these these analytics can help to clear these out. So there are a lot of pharmaceutical but it seems like by doing a high nutrition diet you will then gain a huge amount of these seasonal itics just through your diet and through like you're talking about curcumin queer sittin facility. You know that you know that you can find in natural agents as well.

Yeah, it's been a surprise to me as a as a clinician as a physician that so many pharmaceutical agents have their analogous natural um natural food uh you know a natural food source or natural sections where almost any drug has an analogous uh food equivalent. And that's been a big surprise to me how effective these natural foods are with things such as memory.

Um Such things such as diabetes and even cancer, garlic. Very effective, Very effective food for all sorts of things for blood pressure, protection from cancer protection from cardiovascular disease thins the blood vitamin E, vitamin C, vitamin D.

For immunity. It affects hundreds of metabolic processes within the body. I mean it's just it's astounding and we have gone so far away from natural health in american medicine.

It's criminal because natural healing is the best healing because there's no side effects or very little side effects as opposed to drugs which are expensive.

Um They're hard to uh uh to enforce compliance because patients don't like taking drugs and they're expensive. Whereas people are much more compliant with natural foods, natural substances, natural vitamins and the natural vitamins are very effective.

And one of the, I know one of the studies they did, they rounded up all the longest living people in europe and they try to find a commonality. And one of the commonalities was garlic, you know, and and so so people here's something so, so so cheap, inexpensive available and it's so powerful in supporting the anti aging process and you know, great blood thinner, kill pathogens, antioxidants detoxify.

I mean, it's amazing what just garlic in itself can do. That's true. And, you know, this is not so hard. I mean, yes, metabolism is very complicated, aging is very complicated.

But there is so much that can be done just simple. You know, just taking a walk after your big meal of the day. 15, 20 minute walk can lower your risk of cardiovascular disease and cancer by 20% or more uh increase life expectancy dramatically, um improve sleep. Um these, you know, these things are available to all of us. You know, just sleeping in a in a clean environment where there's no background noise where there's no background lighting, where the electricity is not near the head of your bed because we're finding out that electrical frequency can affect the release of melatonin from the brain and we need melatonin melatonin protects against cancer. It's the most powerful.

Uh one of the most powerful antioxidants in the body. Um And uh these sort of things are, you know, going back to a natural lifestyle and not that I'm against new drugs. I'm all for new drugs.

Oh my goodness. I'm looking forward to that Magic pill that's going me live to be 150. But until I get it, I want to work with what I got. And there's a lot of things we have that worked just fine if we're willing to open our eyes and to reach out and embrace them, detoxification. Another big thing because we live in a toxic soup. We live in a toxic soup of poisoned air poison water, poisoned food, um Radio frequency. Uh we're getting uh something like 10,000 more times the amount of radio frequency pollution into our bodies every day than our grandparents did.

I've just read that they're now giving uh Covid vaccine to captain for what? I don't know, but they're finding that many of the cattle are falling over dead because they're having autoimmune reactions to the Covid vaccine, you know, they were, you know, there's just there's something wrong uh And it's up to us.

Us when I say us, I'm talking about you and me, not the medical establishment, but us, it's our body. It's our choice. It's our life and we have to stand up for that if we're going to enjoy the benefits of anti aging Medicine which are already here. We don't have to wait 100 years or 50 years or 20 years for them to manifest. They're already here.

And if we can make it through the next 10, 20 years, they're gonna be here in dramatic ways. Yeah, yeah, I agree. And and yeah, it is so ludicrous with some of these like the Covid vaccine for cattle or for Children or for because you know, there really is no studies, obviously the benefit nor is their studies show that the real danger of the covid and nor is really um yes, it's just showing that the people with money, they have the ability to open up a new market and they are able then to push their product onto that market and make more money.

Indeed. And what I haven't figured out yet is why those same people are not going after the anti aging market because it's the biggest market of all everybody wants to live a longer, healthier, happier lifespan.

But it seems that it's just the opposite is the intention of many of the people who are controlling the worldwide health care system. Talk to me a little bit about stem cells. I mean, you mentioned that. What what promise do you see with stem cells?

What usage other than people? I mean, I know we we do a lot of kind of joint injections with stem cells to regenerate joints, but systemically. What what do you see?

Well, stem cells has been a bit of a disappointment so far. It's it's a longer road than I think any of us expected the results, as you say, for joints, connective tissue for hair growth for wound healing?

Stem cells have been miraculous uh and very exciting. However, stem cells to reverse cognitive dysfunction, neurological dysfunction. Um uh spinal cord injuries. Some people are making claims, but the literature has not yet supported these claims very strongly. You know, it's one thing for someone to say, hey, I got this result of that result or you know, I've I've cured one patient, one person or two or three or a dozen patients. It's another thing to be able to uh stand up with that data in front of your colleagues in a scientific conference and have your colleagues walk out shaking their head in agreement.

Uh That takes a lot of work. Uh and stem cells have not yet proven themselves effective for neurological disease. As far as I can see though, I expect that with improvements.

And with time we will get there. Uh There is some interesting work being done on Parkinson's disease with stem cells with inter nasal um Administration.

Uh and I've spoken with three or four doctors who are doing that now and who are reporting better than 50% results. So I think we're just a little bit shy of being able to recommend stem cells for neurological conditions but for muscular skeletal conditions. Absolutes.

And and then we have other categories like X as OEMs and neon IQ. I mean, where do they fit in in this whole picture? Well, they're kind of the same category as stem cells.

You know? Exorcisms are um oh information there there there there there there there packets of D. N. A. That are expressed from the placenta and they're almost like a virus. Uh and they're there sometimes their their growth factors and they work in much the same way as stem cells do.

And we say viruses, kind of the structure where you have the M. RNA and you have it's a little the package around that and it's entered able to penetrate cells and tissues easily. So I mean the structure looks very similar.

Exactly. And it gets into the cells and it gives the cells a signal they're signaling proteins, They tell the cell to do this or that or the other thing. Hopefully if you get the right excess homes, you're going to stimulate the cells to become more active in regeneration.

And and peptide therapy. Is is that something that I know you wrote the book that I read many many, many years ago, you know on the HD H on human growth hormone And among all the other longevity books that you've that you've written that there are tremendous. What do you see within the field of peptides?

I mean are are we seeing any more advancement there or have we gone as far as you feel we can now. I think we're early on in peptide research peptides are smaller uh than the hormones, they're essentially fragments of hormones. Again, they act as signaling signaling molecules um but not well studied because the form, you know, it's so darn expensive um to study these things.

And so when you get away from the pharmaceutical based research laboratories, you're left with individual practitioners who don't have a budget to do these things.

So they're more or less experimenting. So I'm not saying that they're not scientific, but they just don't have, you know, a research team. They only have themselves their office, maybe one assistant and it's hard for them to come up with a quick and reliable research that's publishable and that is able to be peer reviewed? Um, polyp peptides I think have a great have a great future, but um it's gonna take a little bit of time because again, the pharmaceutical companies don't seem to be interested in them as they don't see these as uh as easy to to patent as drugs.

And and talk to me a little bit about the the FDA approval process. I mean because you kind of alluded alluded to that, there's a lot of people's medical doctor would say, well that is not FDA approved for that for that reason.

Uh So what are the challenges for, you know, like the peptides you mentioned, What are the challenge or an herb or whatever it may be uh to have it then become FDA approved or FDA recognized for a specific reason.

So, you know, people know when a doctor says that, that this is the reason why it is not FDA approved for that reason. Well, you know, people have unfortunately bought into the notion.

It's not their fault. They've been programmed literally programmed to believe that something that FDA approved, something that FDA approved is good and safe and effective and isn't going to hurt you. Anything else that you feel would be helpful for people to understand, get excited about anti aging medicine and know what, what we have and what we are looking forward to.

You know, for, with, with, with your scope of understanding of everything that's going on canvas. The final final note and anti aging has a huge bright future.

There is so much in the laboratory that is working well. There is so much clinically that is working well. When I got started with the American Academy of Anti aging Medicine in 1991 There was only a handful of doctors who practiced anything Akins anti aging medicine in the United States who are around the world, probably less than 100. Now there are hundreds of thousands of doctors who are doing this and treating tens of millions of people worldwide.

Um, maybe hundreds of millions. There is a huge industry now of an anti aging. This has grown up around this, these issues. So it's really the next great health care model and it's unstoppable. Uh, if we allow it to flourish the future is very bright. As I said, I personally believe that life is that that that The potential for uh practical immortality.

Lifespans of 120 and beyond uh could be available by 2029. If you know if the uh pandemic issues were resolved were very close to it. We have the technologies to improve lifespan dramatically.

We have the technologies to counter cancer, heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's disease. Right now, we don't need breakthroughs. We already have the breakthroughs, we need the implementation of the technologies we already have. So the future in many ways is extremely bright.

There are just a few roadblocks and in a way unfortunately there are large roadblocks, the powers that be roadblock. I don't say too much because uh dr Peter McCullough uh M d one of the most prominent doctors in America, one of the most highly published doctors in America uh and Sherry, 10 penny D. O. Uh fantastic educator are losing their licenses and their academic affiliations simply because they talk about these topics. So I try to you know, stay stay stay clear of the uh of the political issues as best as I can.

But from a scientific point of view and from a reality point of view and from a clinical point of view, find yourself an anti aging medicine doctor, hopefully one that's a member of the american Academy of anti aging medicine and educate yourself and you will be able to do miracles with your potential health care because the technology exists.

It's out there. It works. And it's affordable. I love it. Well, dr class has been such a pleasure, such an honor to to have you on on this summit. I know, I mean it it's it's like regenerative medicine. Some it would not be complete without having the father of anti aging on it. So, so thank you so much.

Thank you. And just remember if you're not part organization, you're probably missing out help out the A four M and if you happen to have an extra $50 million in your back pocket, if you'd like to see the World Center for Anti aging Medicine come to pass, we'll even put your name on the, on the building.

Let me and and people can go to run D. M. Class dot org and they can see, you know, there's a page here on the project to see that the beautiful, I mean the division is incredible. So yes, I hope whoever's listening have except a few million dollars in their back pocket to to step up.

I mean that would be great. Well, God bless you and congratulations with your seminar. Looking forward to it all. I'm sure it's going to be eye opening and really tremendous. It's it's it's it's mostly education.

The secret to anti aging is mostly education and taking responsibility for your own health care and your health destiny. So God bless you all. Thank you. Thank you.

Ron Klatz, MD, DO

The Future of Anti-Aging