Full Transcript Supplement Quality Myths and Global Sourcing 0:00 Because there is a widespread belief in the supplement world that Chinese source ingredients are inherently suspect, lower quality, 0:06 more likely to be contaminated or adulterated, less trustworthy than domestic or European alternatives. 0:12 I understand where this comes from because there have been real documented problems. 0:17 Some of them have being serious and there's a reputation for Chinese goods because of that. 0:23 But here's what that framing misses entirely. 0:27 A significant portion of the global supplement ingredients supply chain comes from China. 0:33 Vitamins B and C, amino acids, a huge range of botanical extracts, ingredients and products from brands you already trust. 0:41 solar ray, natural factors, and a hundred other brands that you probably have some of in your cabinet at home right now are getting materials from China. 0:51 Nobody brags about it because it doesn't sound good. 0:55 but it is just the global manufacturing reality. 0:58 The question is, does it matter? 1:00 Welcome to Vitality Radio, the podcast that helps you make sense of natural supplements and thrive without pharma drugs. 1:08 I'm Jared St. 1:09 Clair.I grew up in a health food store and spent over 40 years now figuring out what works and what doesn't so that you can make confident, 1:17 informed decisions about nutrition, supplements, and your health. 1:24 You've probably seen it, third party tested, CGMP certified, NSF certified maybe even NSSF for sport. 1:33 These phrases show up on supplement labels constantly and they're used in a way that implies safety, quality, legitimacy. 1:40 And sometimes they do mean exactly that. 1:43 But here's what I want to talk about today because not all of these phrases mean the same thing and the gap between them can be significant. 1:51 If you're spending real money on supplements, which I know you probably are, and making real decisions about your health, 1:56 you deserve to actually understand what you are looking at. 2:00 So today I aim to kind of peel back the curtain, like I often do on this show and help you understand exactly what your looking when it comes to certified, 2:10 third party tested, that kind thing. 2:12 What prompted the show was a woman who had never shopped with us before, had heard our podcast. 2:20 And I think just once this show really didn't know me from Adam and had questions and called the store and asked about our third party testing and what 2:31 that actually meant. 2:32 And if, you know, we had certifications and all that kind of stuff. 2:35 I actually had a long conversation with her much longer than I anticipated. 2:39 And I thought, you know what? 2:40 This is something that I should have done a Long time ago. 2:43 I've talked about it kind of in bits and pieces, but this episode I'm going to do in I think 20 minutes or less.
What CGMP Means for Supplement Manufacturing 2:50 What I think is going to really help you understand as a consumer, exactly what you need to understand about third party tested, 2:57 CGMP, NSF. 2:59 What does that actually mean? 3:01 What part is science, I guess, versus what part of marketing? 3:06 And we're going dig into that in some detail. 3:09 We're also going talk about what made in China means. 3:13 What made in the USA means, what made an India means where these raw materials come from and why it matters. 3:21 And that answer that I'm going to give you might surprise you. 3:24 Let's start with CGMP. 3:26 What does it actually mean? 3:27 Well, it stands for current good manufacturing processes. 3:32 The GMP is the most important part, but current just means that it's an evolving thing. 3:38 It's not a set in stone back in 2007. When it started, it has actually been adjusted since then. 3:44 These rules cover facility cleanliness and equipment calibration, testing for raw ingredients before they go into the product, 3:51 documentation of every step in the manufacturing process, batch records, employee training, and quality control checkpoints throughout production. 4:00 And it's an FDA formalized program for dietary supplements specifically. 4:05 The core idea is that CGMP compliant facilities can demonstrate with documentation that they put on the label what is actually in the product. 4:16 That the project is free from contamination and that the process is consistent from batch to batch. 4:22 Meaning you bought a bottle from this lot number and you buy a model from that lot. 4:26 It's the same stuff, just made it a different time. 4:29 Here's the part that should give you a little bit of pause though. 4:32 The FDA requires technically CGMP compliance for supplement manufacturers, but the FDA does not pre-approve supplements before they hit the market. 4:42 And FDA facility inspections happen, not on any kind of predictable every year schedule or every facility out there. 4:50 Which means some facilities are never actually tested at all or visited or inspected, I should say. 4:56 Which means the legal requirement is technically real, but the verification isn't always as tight as you might hope. 5:02 It's kind of like driving. 5:04 If you're driving at, you know, 85 and a 65 mile an hour highway, unless the cop sees you, You're going to be just fine and you'll be able to drive 65 5:15 all the way. 5:15 And that's part of the Wild West that can be the supplement industry. 5:19 Now for brands that are doing it right. 5:22 Which I'm going to explain exactly what that means here in a minute. 5:25 It's not a problem. 5:26 And that's why you need to know the brand that you're buying from. 5:30 So this is exactly why third-party audits matter. 5:34 When a facility is CGMP compliant and has been independently audited by a credible third party, that meaningfully is more credible than a self declaration. 5:47 because anybody can literally print CGMP facility on a label, but not everyone can actually pass an outside audit. 5:55 Now let's talk about NSF GMP certifications. 5:59 NSSF International has been around since 1944. They actually started in water treatment and food safety long before they did anything with supplements. 6:08 Their G&P certification program for supplement manufacturers though is genuinely rigorous. 6:13 It's not a rubber stamp. 6:15 All of our products are manufactured in NSF GMP certified facilities. 6:20 And I want to explain what that actually means because it's more involved than most people actually realize. 6:25 and you as a probably more informed than. 6:28 Most consumers are, if you're listening to this show, at least I hope you are and feel like you've getting some education here and probably from other 6:35 sources as well. 6:35 You've probably heard of NSSF. 6:37 you probably. 6:37 Heard of CGMP and. 6:39 Third-party testing, but maybe haven't had it all. 6:43 totally explained to you. 6:45 That was kind of what I got out of this phone call and why I decided I better share it with everybody. 6:50 So earning NSF GMP certification is not a one-time event. 6:55 Facilities have to recertify on an ongoing basis, essentially every single year. 7:00 NSF auditors are physically on site. 7:03 This is not done through email. 7:05 They're reviewing equipment, they're looking at processes, documentation, how raw materials are received and tested, How finished products are tested. 7:12 How deviations and complaints are handled. 7:14 The facility has to demonstrate every time that it's still operating at the standard it was initially certified to do. 7:22 If it doesn't, the certification doesn' get renewed. 7:25 I get an annual report from my manufacturers. 7:29 I can access it basically at any time that shows their current certification. 7:34 And basically they either are or they're not certified. 7:38 If one of my manufacturer was ever to become not-certified, I would definitely be looking at other options, but thankfully that's not happened with my manufactures. 7:48 And I'll be straight with you on this.
NSF GMP Audits and Annual Recertification 7:50 It's not a cheap process. 7:51 NSF certification and the ongoing recertification process is a real expense for manufacturers. 7:57 it costs money to prepare for the audits, to maintain the documentation systems, To run the internal quality controls required to pass and to keep the 8:05 equipment working properly and all of that stuff. 8:08 And that cost ultimately flows through to me and then to you. 8:12 But I'm fine with that. 8:13 In fact, I am grateful for it because what that cost buys me is the confidence that an independent, credible organization is looking over the shoulder 8:22 of the people making your supplements on a regular basis. 8:26 Not just once when they first applied and opened up shop, but Every single year on a regular basis, they're having to recertify and verify that they are 8:34 doing things right. 8:35 That expense keeps the manufacturer honest. 8:38 A certification that's easy and cheap to get isn't going to be worth much. 8:43 The fact that this one isn' easy is really the whole point. 8:47 Now, I wanna explain also a little bit more of how this actually happens inside of a facility. 8:52 What happens in a facilities that's doing it right? 8:55 At my facilities, beyond the facility certification itself, i wanna walk you through kind of the process from start to finish. 9:03 Layer one is the raw material quarantine and testing. 9:07 When an ingredient arrives in the facilities let's say it's NMN or vitamin C or resveratrol or magnesium bisglycinate, whatever it is, 9:15 It doesn't get opened and poured into a batch. 9:18 It goes into what's called quarantine. 9:20 And each manufacturer has a quarantine section where things are held kind of in jail for lack of a better term. 9:27 That means that it's physically held and cannot be used until it passes independent testing. 9:31 They verify the incoming raw material against the supplier's certificate of analysis, confirming the identity. 9:38 This is really important with herbs because An herb can look like another herb, especially when it's already in a powder form and we're not looking at 9:45 the leaf or the root. 9:47 We're looking in green powder in most cases or a brown powder. 9:50 And so the identity matters a lot. 9:53 The potency obviously matters. 9:55 and then of course, you know, what else is in it? 9:57 Is it contaminated with mold or fungus? 9:59 is there any bacterial or microbial contamination? 10:03 Are there too many heavy metals, any of that kind of stuff? 10:05 Only after it clears that testing, does it get released into production. 10:10 This is not universal in the industry. 10:12 There are manufacturers who accept raw materials based on the supplier's paperwork alone and never independently verify that it is what they say it. 10:22 Or that is a potency that they claim that. 10:25 That gap is one real reason why products from different brands using the same ingredient on paper can perform very differently in practice. 10:33 Now, layer two is the manufacturing side and the NSF audited environment. 10:38 Once raw materials clear quarantine, they're processed inside a facility that has been audited against NSF GMP standard, 10:46 which also incorporates the FDA's core dietary supplement manufacturing regulations, plus food safety and traceability requirements. 10:54 Every step has documentation. 10:56 There are batch records and standard operating procedures. 10:59 If something goes wrong at any point, there is a trail. 11:03 Layer three is the finished product testing. 11:06 So if all of that is not enough after the product is manufactured, before it ships, finished batches go out to third party testing facilities, 11:15 microbial testing and heavy metal testing. 11:17 Microbial looking for anything, any kind of microbe that might be in there. 11:22 This is a separate step from everything else and it matters. 11:26 Why does finished product testing matter even after all of the above has already happened? 11:31 Because you can start with clean raw materials and a clean facility and still end up with an issue that emerges during the manufacturing process itself. 11:40 Cross contamination, equipment factors, environmental variables, finished-product testing is the final confirmation that what came out the other end is 11:50 actually what it's supposed to be, both in terms of what's in it and what isn't. 11:55 Put those three layers together, incoming raw material quarantine and independent testing, manufacturing inside an NSF audited and annually recertified facility, 12:05 and finished product third party testing. 12:07 And you have a quality system with multiple independent checkpoints. 12:10 Each layer is designed to catch something the others might miss. 12:14 That is exactly the point. 12:16 Now, NSF GMP versus NSSF for sport. 12:20 Have you heard of these two things? 12:22 You might be familiar with just ingredients. 12:24 They have protein powders that are NSN for sports certified and protein Powders. 12:28 That are not. 12:29 If you haven't caught Carl in talking about this, why do you think this is? 12:34 It gets a little confusing for sure. 12:36 And also I can tell you that our products are made in an NSF facility, but they will not say NSS on the bottle. 12:43 and I'll explain why that matters in just a minute. 12:46 So this is where I want to spend a bit of time because it can get a lot confusing. 12:50 But I think I've got it simple enough that it's all going to make sense. 12:53 NSF GMP certification, which is what my facilities carry, covers the manufacturing environment itself. 13:01 The facility audit, the processes, documentation, raw material testing, all that kind of stuff. 13:06 NSSF for Sport, or its older sibling, NSC certified for sport, is a different program entirely. 13:13 It was built specifically for competitive athletes who are subject to drug testing. 13:17 Products that go through this program are screened against a list of over 270 substances banned by major sports organizations. 13:25 WADA, the NFL, The NCAA, MLB, and so on. 13:29 Stimulants, steroids, hormone precursors, masking agents. 13:32 The idea is that an athlete can look at a product with that certification and know it won't trigger a positive test. 13:38 And it's not like there's a bunch of products that have steroids added to them out there on the market.
Raw Material Quarantine and Finished Product Testing 13:43 There are things people have been busted for that before. 13:46 But there are things like stimulants, certain types of stimulant, hormone precursors like DHEA, which are not legal in the sporting world, 13:55 but are legal on the shelf that make NSF sport certification a different animal. 14:01 So for that population, people are actually drug tested. 14:05 It's a genuinely valuable program. 14:07 If you're a professional or collegiate athlete and the failing a drug test could cost you your career, then you really want that assurance, 14:16 right? 14:17 But the honest question is, is that you? 14:20 For the vast majority of people listening to this show, you're not subject to water testing or NCAA testing. 14:26 Are you competing at a level where a contaminated supplement would cost you your season? 14:30 You know, probably not, right? 14:32 So here's where it can get practical, and this is part of it that's important. 14:37 I already said I'm okay with the expense of NSF certification and third party testing and all that, because I want to make sure that my manufacturer is 14:45 not cutting corners. 14:47 What I believe is in the product when I formulated it and ordered it is what's in product so that I can look you in eye and tell you that that is exactly 14:56 what it. 14:57 However, can you actually go further than you need to with some of the certification? 15:03 Because if I were to certify everything in SF sport, that would be an additional layer. 15:08 If I are to certified everything with the NSF badge, That would an addition layer and for what we do, I don't think it's worth it. 15:17 It's worth it to make sure that all of those other things are taken care of, but basically all that certification and verification for me is enough without 15:28 driving the cost of the product up higher just to put a badge on the label. 15:34 So when you're already manufacturing at the NSF GMP certified facility that independently tests incoming raw materials and does all those things, 15:45 Formalizing it by putting a logo on it to me is just an expense that is unnecessary. 15:51 We've made a deliberate decision not to pursue product level NSF or NSS for sports certification for that reason. 15:59 Because for me, when I'm looking at supplementation, I am looking a few things. 16:05 I absolutely 100% need quality and I need verification that what I say is in the product What you're reading on the label is what is there. 16:18 As long as I'm comfortable with that, I don't need an NSF on my label specifically on that one product. 16:26 just so that I have to charge you an extra dollar or two or whatever. 16:30 At that point for me, it's more marketing than anything else, unless you are a collegiate or an Olympic or a professional athlete. 16:40 If you, are frankly, that NSF sport certification matters for everyone else. 16:46 I think it is overkill. 16:47 Now, I want to talk about something that is frustrating for, me. 16:53 Like so frustrating for me and frustrating. 16:58 And it sometimes makes you frustrated with me. 17:02 We've been out of two very, very popular products. 17:05 Now, by the time this show airs, they both should be back in stock crossing fingers. 17:09 One of them is my second most popular product that I sell the ultimate vitality multi. 17:13 The ultimate vitality multi really our flagship product. 17:16 It's the one that of everything that I sell is probably the most well-known for. 17:20 And when it's out of stock, it hurts in a variety of ways. 17:25 it. 17:25 Hurts financially because I can't sell it and it, hurts from a credibility standpoint, because you're looking at me saying, 17:31 what is this guy? 17:32 Is he professional or not? 17:34 Why can he keep this great product in stock? 17:37 What's going on here? 17:38 The other product is Inamen powder, Vital Inamin. 17:42 So let's talk about the NMN first. 17:44 We've been out of stock on that. 17:46 As I'm recording this show, we've, been at a stock, on, that product for nearly two months that I'd like to say it's inexcusable, 17:55 but I actually have an excuse. 17:56 And let me explain how that works. 17:58 This product has two ingredients, two, the ultimate vitality multi has so many ingredients. 18:04 Dozens, Two ingredients in the MN powder. 18:07 One of those is NNM and the other one is resveratrol. 18:11 Well, guess what? 18:12 We want those two ingredients in there because they work synergistically together. 18:16 They make a lot of sense. 18:17 they have this awesome complimentary mechanism. 18:21 But when this product was brought into the manufacturer, one of the two, ingredients did not pass the testing. 18:28 And that's the resveratrol. 18:30 Resverotrol did not pass the test in that it had excess microbial content. 18:36 Basically it was above what is considered a safe level of microbio stuff for lack of a better term.
NSF Sport Certification vs GMP Certification 18:44 Okay. 18:45 Now here's, the interesting thing. 18:48 Truth be told, what was in there at the amount that is in, there probably would not make anybody sick. 18:54 It's just was a little bit above the legal limit. 18:58 And if we weren't NSF certified or simply weren' t honest, we could have snuck it through. 19:07 We could've sold it to you and said, here's our product. 19:11 I wouldn't have been concerned about anybody getting sick, and I wouldn't have any angry customers, but I'm not gonna do that. 19:18 First off, if I wanted to do, that I couldn't because NSF certification, third-party testing, my manufacturer is being kept honest by that, 19:29 and, I am being, kept, honest, by, now, If I was making it in my own back room, then yeah, could pass it off. 19:37 But I want you to understand that distinction, it matters, like it, matters a lot, right? 19:43 If I was the kind of guy who said, I got to have this product on the shelf. 19:48 I'm going to lose hundreds and hundreds. 19:50 And hundreds of dollars really in two months, multiple thousands of and sales on this one product. 19:57 That hurts. 19:58 might not get those sales back. 20:00 There's a really good chance that somebody probably multiple, somebody's listening to this show right now. 20:06 Maybe you has been waiting for that in a minute and finally gave up and said, I want to get my NMN somewhere else. 20:12 Can't get this from this guy. 20:13 and I love NNM I wanna be on it. 20:16 And I may have lost that sale and I mean, not have loss that sail just once. 20:19 I might have you for the rest of the life of you taking that in a min product. 20:24 But I specifically work with manufacturers that have all of these certifications, verifications these checks and balances in place. 20:38 Because I don't want them to cheat me and me accidentally cheat you. 20:44 And I'll ever want to be tempted myself to pass something through that I shouldn't be passing through. 20:50 Now I like to say that, I think I would ever do that. 20:53 But I didn't even have that option. 20:55 I. 20:55 Think that's awesome because I made that choice originally when I chose the manufacturers that chose, and it just keeps everybody honest and all of the 21:06 integrity up. 21:07 and all of the checkpoints in place. 21:09 And unfortunately I've got some angry people because I can't get that product right now. 21:14 Now, again, by the time this airs, I think that project will be out on the shelf again. 21:19 In fact, it's coming in the next week or so, but it has been two months and I have lost some money for sure. 21:25 I hope I haven't lost any customers. 21:28 The Ultimate Vitality Multi story is a little different, and honestly, it's a story about something largely outside of my control, 21:35 which is our government. 21:39 Ultimate vitality multi contains something called solbutiamine. 21:42 Solbutiamine is not familiar to most people. 21:45 And I want to explain what it is and why I use it first. 21:48 So, solbutiamin is in two of products. 21:50 It's in my multivitamin and it in product called Downsize. 21:54 Solbitiamine is a derivative of the B vitamin, vitamin B1, also known as thiamin. 22:02 It was developed in Japan in the 60s as a more bioavailable form of B-1 that can actually meaningfully cross the blood-brain barrier way more effectively 22:11 than regular thiumin does. 22:13 It is completely legal in the United States. 22:15 It has not a controlled substance. 22:17 Is not on any banned list. 22:19 it is a completely legitimate, well-characterized compound with research behind it supporting energy, metabolism, and cognitive function. 22:30 I use it because it is awesome. 22:33 I love this ingredient. 22:35 It is part of the secret sauce that makes people feel so good when they take the ultimate vitality multi.
Stock Issues, Testing Failures, and Product Integrity 22:42 You could call it part. 22:43 Eleven herbs and spices. 22:45 Okay. 22:45 Except none of my herbs or spices or MSG like the kernels, but aside from that, it's something that is in that product that you're never going to find 22:53 in any other multivitamin. 22:56 In fact, I have over 5,000 products in my store right now. 23:03 I. 23:04 Carried over 25,00 different products over the years. 23:09 And in that time, i've only ever had four products of 25 plus thousand that have ever contained Solview timing. 23:16 Three of them were my formulas. 23:19 Now two, one of those formulas isn't on the market anymore. 23:22 It's not commonly used in America and there's a reason for that. 23:26 It is outrageously expensive. 23:29 Is a very expensive ingredient. 23:33 it comes from Asia. 23:34 Its made in Japan and it's made China. 23:36 And it has very good research in that it provides about half the amount of energy that caffeine does, but without being a central nervous system stimulant. 23:48 So it has this really cool, unique place that it belongs, that makes it very, very different from anything else. 23:55 But because it's not used very much, most people have never heard of it. 23:58 I almost never run into anybody that knows what the heck Solbutiamine is. 24:03 And the problem with that is because its expensive and nobody knows, what it is, manufacturers aren't using it because, it doesn't help from a marketing 24:11 standpoint to have it on your bottle. 24:13 I don't call it out on the front of my multivitamin. 24:16 I won't say with Solbutiamine because nobody would care unless they heard this podcast. 24:21 It drives the price of multavitamins up significantly. 24:25 it just is what it is. 24:26 But most people that take Ultimate Vitality Multi because of the Summa and the ginsengs and Solbutiamin love how they feel on this product. 24:37 And this is whats happened. 24:39 Its not commonly found in America. 24:43 This particular batch is coming from China. 24:46 And that doesn't sound good to you, probably. 24:49 It might give you a little pause. 24:51 We're going to talk about that in just a second and why I believe you need to understand exactly what that means. 24:57 But because the agents at the port never see solbutiamine. 25:04 About once a year, maybe once every other year it gets stuck because the agent has to double check to make sure it's legal in the country and they have 25:12 to figure out how to verify what it is. 25:14 And right now I'm having the longest delay I've ever had getting Solview timing through customs. 25:23 It's my second most popular product. 25:25 And there are so many, probably at least now a couple of hundred of you waiting for this product, wondering where the heck it is, 25:33 asking me every single day on the chat on vitalitynutrition.com and on phone and in person at one of our locations saying, 25:40 Hey, where is your multivitamin? 25:44 The good news is you missed the vitamin. 25:47 I missed a vitamin! 25:49 The bad news is I can't do anything about it until they release it. 25:53 Now they say it could be up to 30 days from about four days, five days ago, six days. 25:59 Something like that. 26:00 When I got that letter. 26:01 So I might have three more weeks. 26:03 This show isn't going to air for about for more. 26:05 We, so I'm hoping it's on the market again, by the time you hear this, let's talk about China. 26:11 You've heard, I am pretty sure that low quality supplements come from China, And I want to be very, very transparent about exactly how this works. 26:21 Because there is a widespread belief in the supplement world that Chinese source ingredients are inherently suspect, lower quality, 26:28 more likely to to contaminated or adulterated, less trustworthy than domestic or European alternatives. 26:34 I understand where this comes from because there have been real documented problems. 26:38 Some of them have serious and there's a reputation for Chinese goods because of that.
Why China Does Not Automatically Mean Lower Quality 26:44 But here's what that framing misses entirely. 26:48 A significant portion of the global supplement ingredients supply chain comes from China. 26:54 Vitamins B and C, amino acids, a huge range of botanical extracts, ingredients and products from brands you already trust. 27:02 solar ray, natural factors, and a hundred other brands that you probably have some of in your cabinet at home right now are getting materials from China. 27:12 Nobody brags about it because it doesn't sound good, but it is just the global manufacturing reality. 27:19 The question is, does it matter? 27:22 Well, consider this, We Care Probiotics is one of the largest and most respected probiotic manufacturers in the entire world, 27:29 and they are based in China. 27:31 Their manufacturing standards, their quality controls, they're documentation. 27:35 These are world-class. 27:38 And in fact, I would dare say that Chinese companies have to prove at a higher level than their American counterparts that they're doing it right because 27:46 they already have this black eye on them. 27:50 So I'll tell you my new GLP-1 formula. 27:52 One of the main ingredients in that product is called Glucovantage. 27:56 It's the dihydro berberine. 27:58 it is the best berbere on the market, in my opinion, and great quality companies use this particular ber bere, including our friends at Just Ingredients. 28:08 They use it. 28:10 It has acromancia. 28:11 Acrumancia is primarily coming out of China from We Care probiotics. 28:17 Solar Ray uses it, we use. 28:20 Many other companies are using it's not the zip code that this product comes from or however they use postal codes over in China. 28:29 What it is. 28:31 is simply all of the measures that I already talked about that have to be in place to make sure that we are keeping the raw material supplier, 28:41 whether they're in China or Bountiful Utah, the manufacturer, or the product developer, that would be me, all honest in making sure what we give you is 28:51 what say we're giving you. 28:52 It is manufactured correctly. 28:55 It is clean. 28:57 It has free of contaminants. 28:59 And it is what we say it, is at the potency that we see it as on the finished product. 29:06 The verification is, what matters. 29:08 Did it go through quarantine? 29:11 Did it pass that test? 29:13 Is it made in the right facility under the conditions with the certifications? 29:17 And is it third party tested again to make sure that nothing went wrong during that process? 29:24 China, India, America, Canada, none of it means anything about quality. 29:30 Verification means something. 29:33 Geography does not. 29:36 I want you to be the best consumer of natural supplements that you can possibly be. 29:40 That's a huge part of why I do Vitality Radio. 29:42 This show is about transparency, pulling back the curtain on an industry that doesn't always make it easy to know what the heck you're actually buying 29:50 and help you become a wiser, more confident shopper in a marketplace that can genuinely be confusing. 29:57 I hope it gives you more confidence in my brand of supplements and in our store, but honestly, more than anything, I help it helps you buy right for yourself 30:06 and for your family, no matter where you're shopping. 30:10 Thank you so much for listening to me. 30:11 Call us if you have questions, 801-292-6662, or jump on vitalitynutrition.com and open up a chat, Or just come see us in Bountiful or South Ogden at Vitality Nutrition, 30:22 I'm Jared. 30:22 Thanks for Listening to Vitalty Radio. 30:39 Hello, everyone. 30:40 I hope you enjoyed this week's episode of Vitality Radio. 30:45 Just a reminder that this podcast is for educational purposes only. 30:50 This podcast has not been evaluated by the FDA. 31:10 Thank you.
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