Hidden Radioactive Dangers That Cause Inflammation And Disease

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Thanks for having me, Laura. I’m excited to talk about toxins and what we’re exposed to.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes, there’s some bad stuff out there. That’s why I wanted you to come on here because you’re an expert in a lot of things. We could have gone through so many topics here, but we’re going to talk about radioactive elements and radiation today. For our audience who doesn’t know you, your story is pretty compelling. You nearly lost your wife, Heather, to Lyme disease. Then, through trial and error, you finally learned what was needed to save her life. Once she recovered, you turned everything you learned into protocols for CellCore Biosciences. Now, this is an important company to me. We use CellCore in all of our programs and protocols because we see such incredible results from it. It’s my pleasure to be able to bring you on here and pick your brain, because not only do you have this gift that you’ve given to the world, but you’re also a mentor of mine. This company, CellCore, is changing people’s lives, and it creates natural solutions for gut, immune, and whole-body health. You’re also a two-time number-one international bestselling author. We’re going to dig into radioactivity. As we start here, can you just tell us why we should be talking about this? Why is radioactivity an important topic? I’ll tell you, in all the talks that I’m doing for this project when we talk about toxins, this one is left out. 

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Yes, for sure. This is the silent killing category right here because we don’t know much about it. When you hear the word radiation, most people might think of an x-ray at a doctor’s office, radiologist, cell phone, Bluetooth, or Wi-Fi. I think about that but the biggest exposure that we’re getting is through our water supply. We’re drinking it. The crazy thing is that there’s no taste. There’s no way to detect that it’s even in the water because only one government agency, the EPA, even tests for certain radioactive elements, like radium, specifically. Unless you do some due diligence and research or have different alternative methods, maybe like muscle testing or different devices like biofeedback scanners or something that could pick things up like this, you’re just not even going to know it’s in the water supply. The worst type of water you could ever drink would be tap water. Any filtration is better than tap water. But what we’ll talk about today is that most filtration is not getting these radioactive elements out of the water supply. According to the EPA, which the Environmental Working Group reported on about five years ago or so when they ran, the EPA did all their tests in 2010 and 2015, and 170 million Americans they found had excessive amounts of radium in the water supply, which is a radioactive element.

There are many of them. We could talk about the different types and isotopes. There’s radium 224, 226, and radium 228. But it’s like this is the perfect topic for this event because this is something we’re drinking every day. It’s not being talked about. Dr. Todd Watts and myself were the first ones to bring this to the forefront. We spoke on it at our very first practitioner conference in 2019 as we had figured it out the year before, and like this is huge. We need to create something that helps detox these chemicals. And then surprisingly, Laura, I thought, man, the whole world would be talking about it immediately. It was just like it didn’t click. I’m like, okay, I hope this year, right where we are in now that it’s going to start to resonate more and more with people because if you’re trying to exercise, if you’re trying to optimize your sleep, if you’re trying to optimize your diet and eat clean food and avoid processed food and toxins, you could be drinking more chemicals in your water supply than all these other things that you’re trying to avoid. So we need to hone in on the liquid that’s going into our body and make sure that we’re not getting bombarded with a ton of chemicals.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

On that note of liquid, of course, one of my questions is going to be, how do we avoid this? We’re going to dive pretty deep into radioactive elements today. But since we’re on the topic of water and I know this is everybody’s burning question and you mentioned it, some filtration systems or purification systems don’t get it out. This is a huge topic that we talk about in my community and programs and clients that we work with. Can you tell our audience how you get it out?

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Yes. As of right now, at the time of recording this, the only water supply that I know of is water. It’s not even a filtration system but the only way to get the radioactive elements out of your water supply is through water distillation. So a water distiller and I see it’s not filtration because it’s the only way and it’s nature’s way, but it’s the only way that the water goes through a phase shift, so everything else is filtration. The thing you have to remember about filtration is that it will always get gummed up. Filtration will eventually stop filtering. It’ll always fail at some point. so if I run filtration and one of the well-known brands. Berkey, it’s like a countertop unit. They advertise, oh, the first 50 gallons we get 98% of such and such radioactive elements out. then by a hundred gallons, it’s like 97%. It’s like, well, my question immediately is, What’s 200 gallons? What’s the thousand gallons? 

Everybody’s source of water is so different. Even if you’re getting a lot of it out, distillation is the only thing that gets it all out because it’s boiling the water so that you get evaporation, and then it goes through some tubes and cools down. It condenses and then precipitates down in most distillers, it’s like stainless steel in a glass jar. And then the only thing that’s going to come up with the water, the H2O, are VOCs, volatile organic compounds, and just simple carbon filtration, dripping through or running through carbon afterward will clear that all up. Basically, that is like pure water. Of course, because of online and talking heads and natural health, they’re like, oh, distilled water. It’s dead water. That’s not natural. It’s like, look at what Mother Nature does. All right? We have oceans, we have lakes where the water evaporates, condensates and precipitates, and that’s what’s the whole water cycle. We’re doing the same thing but in closed systems. We’re not getting airborne contaminants, and unfortunately, there’s plenty of them on Earth right now, which is why drinking rainwater isn’t necessarily ideal.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

I’m so glad that we’re bringing this up. the big question that we always get in our community. By the way, I found you and Dr. Todd around 2020. You said the first conference you talked about was in 2019, when I did meet you too, and I started. I met you online. I didn’t know you at this point, but I studied everything you put out, absorbed it as quickly as I could, and started coming to those conferences. I can remember our first discussion about the first talk I ever heard you do on water and distilled water. We do it. We distill our water. The big question we get is, well, what do we do about minerals then? You take the minerals out. Aren’t our bones going to get weak? Isn’t this bad for our kids? Isn’t this bad for me? There are some myths about minerals and distilled water. Could you solve that right now? Then we’ll get back to radioactive elements, which I guess is important because if we do anything in this interview, anything at all, if we can get people to safely drink distilled water, we are doing a huge benefit to this audience.

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Yes, this is a very loaded question, but it’s a super important question as you said. When you make distilled water, the distilled water when it comes out is a perfect 7.0, and then as it sits out, carbon dioxide from the atmosphere can absorb into the distilled water and lower the water. 6.5, 6.0, depending on how long you leave it out there. We’re taught that, “Oh, I need minerals. I need lots of minerals.” It’s like, yes, the body needs minerals. And this is a little bit mind-blowing, but every mineral is a metal. When you say my body needs minerals, you can just say my body needs metals. But as soon as I say metals, you’re like, Wait a minute. I thought metals, especially heavy metals, were toxic. It’s like these blanket statements. We can’t be doing those anymore. One of the heavy metals that our body needs for transporting oxygen in the bloodstream is iron. Well, that’s heavy metal, but it depends on the form. Not all metals are dangerous. Not all metals are needed for human health. It depends on the form. It depends on the oxidative state and the balance of these elements themselves. But this idea is that I need minerals. Well, when you look at tap water, for instance, or even spring water and you’re running in it and you have minerals in the water supply, these are generally the same minerals that are not at the proper oxidative state or the right valence, essentially.

There are different forms than what our body can utilize. Quickly think about your house. You’re running tap water, and then you get this white scum around the sink or bathtub. Those are the minerals or metals that are building up. Well, those same minerals or metals are absorbable and usable in the body because they’re in the wrong form. They’re what’s called an inorganic form. When a plant takes in a mineral, it transforms it from an inorganic to an organic, or it’s bound to carbon. These are the minerals that our body wants and can utilize. If you think about toxicity, somebody can be and this is what’s mind-bending. Somebody can be toxic in copper which is a mineral or a metal because they have copper pipes in their house and they’re not filtering that out. But then, at the same time, not only can they be copper toxic, they can be copper deficient. I can be deficient in toxic levels of the same thing, the same mineral, at the same time, which is like, wait a minute, how does that work? Because of the valence or oxidative state of copper. If copper is bound to carbon from a plant molecule, my body can use that, or if copper’s bound inside a liver, like beef liver, right?

To me, eating beef liver, or they’re eating something that’s got beef liver, or that copper form is way different than the copper that’s coming from our pipes, so to make a blanket statement, I’m toxic to copper. I need more zinc-filled blankets. It’s like, no, you might need more of the right form of copper to kick out the bad form of copper in the body. water, like you don’t need minerals in it if you want to add minerals to it, absolutely, you can. But we want to make sure they’re plant-based, or what’s probably more important is electrolytes. Adding some electrolytes to the water, which are sodium, potassium, and magnesium mainly. The thought that somebody needed minerals in their water. It’s okay to add minerals to your water but it has to be in the right form. Not all minerals are available for the body to absorb. That’s why most minerals we should be getting through our food supply, not necessarily the water, but of course the talking heads and the online health world are like, if you’re drinking distilled water, it’s dead water, and it’s going to deplete me of stuff.

First of all, when you drink a glass of water and if somebody were to, unfortunately, get shot or cut open immediately, you’re not going to see water pouring out like that. It immediately gets absorbed into the body. The thing to understand about distilled water is that it’s pure water, meaning there’s nothing in it. if you want to add some electrolytes or you want to add some minerals or metals to the water, I’d prefer to be plant-based or some electrolytes to the water. That’s fine. If you want to energize it or structure the water afterward, that’s fine. But people have these machines that use electricity to separate charges and make alkaline water, these different things, the filtration on those things is inferior. Start with distilled water, and then you can fancy the water up. When we switched over to distilled water, we were in Puerto Rico at the time, and I had Dr. Todd test my wife because she was getting this clogged ear thing, and he said it all.

It’s something in her water. It’s a toxin. She’s drinking it in the water. I’m like, there’s no way we’re in Puerto Rico. It’s supposed to be rainforest water. I use a Berkey with the white filters at the bottom, like, no way. Eight months later, she still has this thing going on. He’s testing her. He’s like, no, it’s something in her water. She’s drinking it. Then I told you this before; I’m like, fine. I got mad, and I went and bought a water distiller. Within a week, my daughter’s tummy aches went away, and I was like, oh my gosh, it wasn’t emotion. It was something in the water supply. Within a month, my wife’s ears started crackling because it always sounded like she was underwater when she would talk because of the clogged ears. Within a month, it started crackling, opening up, and just kept improving. Then it just hit me that, great, let’s say there’s 100 chemicals in my water supply. I run it through and filter, but I’m only getting 94 of the 100 out. There are six left while I’m drinking those six chemicals every day in my water supply because I’m in the health world.

That’s all we drink—lots of water—and my body’s just getting overwhelmed with it for how many years? Back when my wife crashed, as you mentioned at the beginning of the interview in 2012, after my daughter was born and we lived in the radium belt, it was like she was drinking these chemicals in the water supply. I had a whole house 2000 whole house water filtration. I had a water ionizer at the house as well. I had a water ionizer at our office. I spent so much money on water, immediately thinking, Oh, because I spent all this, there’s no way it’s the water. Then what did it end up being? Mostly the water.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

The water. One more question about minerals, I know somebody is asking in their head right now; they’re wondering, do the minerals have to be taken, or do the metals have to be taken at the same time as they drink water? Or can it just be done separately? Does it have to be in the water? I think the answer is no.

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

No. As long as you’re getting minerals or healthy metals into your body every day, you’re fine. Whether it’s the food that supplies you with water or both supplements, whatever that is, you’re going to be fine. The big thing to remember is that when you look at the makeup of our human body, we’re mostly carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. That’s 93% of our body. If you add nitrogen now, we’re at 96%. Now that less than 4% of our body is metals or minerals, Yes, minerals, electrolytes, and metals are important, but less than 4% of our body is made out of them. It’s more important for me to make sure we’re getting carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen in. And it doesn’t have to be in your water supply. Of course, a lot of people are doing that just because that’s how we’re trained, and that’s okay. But a lot of times we just have to break the loop. These are things that we’re stuck in. This matrix we’re stuck in of what we’re taught and like a step beyond it and realize, maybe this isn’t the way I have to do it.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

We are in a matrix. I’m glad you mentioned that we are in a matrix and there’s a lot of information coming at us that’s not necessarily accurate or true. There is a new narrative and an agenda out there. There are a lot of big-money influencers telling us what they want us to hear. I’d love for you to shift into talking about how we’re getting this because some radiation is manmade and some is naturally occurring. Why is it so prevalent in our environment? How is it coming to us?

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

This took me a little bit to figure out but where I’ve come to after these five, or six years of studying radioactive elements is that it’s the water supply. Hands down it’s the water supply. You can breathe radiation in, and you can go to epa.gov and look at air rates. I lived previously in Milwaukee and had a certain amount. When I moved to San Diego, the radiation and the air level went up. When I moved to Puerto Rico, it went even lower than the other two places. You can look at your area as far as generally what the air quality of inhalation of it is. Yes, that could be a factor. I just don’t think it’s a major factor. The biggest factor that I see is in the water supply, because when you’re looking at what is a radioactive element, it’s an element, or it’s an element on the periodic table, that has so much energy that it’s emitting damage within the body.

It’s constantly creating what’s called ROS, reactive oxygen species, and it’s doing that even within the mitochondria. If our body has 37 trillion cells and we have about the same bacteria in our body as well, roughly about half and half every cell besides the red blood cell, every cell inside has a bunch of mitochondria that can have hundreds and thousands. Certain cells in the brain have a couple million. The substantia nigra has 2 million mitochondria per cell. And these cells are what make ATP; it’s ATP. Mitochondria are used in cell signaling to the immune system. It’s used in energy currency, as we’ve learned in basic biology. But there are many other things. Most of the magnesium in our body is stored in the mitochondria. The mitochondria are responsible for hormone production, including cortisol and progesterone. Like all these hormones, the mitochondria are so impactful. But radioactive elements are something that gets inside the mitochondria and destroys them. The easiest thing to say is that if you’re sitting at a campfire or you’re in front of a charcoal grill and you take a charcoal out, that’s white.

If it’s white, it’s been blazing hot, like it’s next-level heat. You take it off, and you swallow it. It’s not that initial, just sort of like wrecking the inside of your mouth, but what’s happening is that it’s going to stay hot as it’s going down your esophagus and into your stomach. It’s going to be emitting this heat, this damage. That’s radioactive elements essentially without you being able to feel it. As I mentioned, radium is one radioactive element that doesn’t smell like anything. It doesn’t taste like anything. It’s odorless and colorless, so you can’t know if you’re drinking it. What’s happening is that it has a half-life. Radioactive elements give off energy. So much energy, it’s damaging things around it, especially mitochondria and certain half-lives like radium, for instance. The half-life can vary depending on the type; the radium 226 is about 1600 years in half-life. That means if I swallow some radium 6000 years later, which we don’t know a human that even lasts that long, but 6000 years later, half that radium will be radioactive, and the decay of the radioactivity for radium will be half of what it was initially.

That means that unless you’re doing something to try to kick these molecules out, like detoxing them, removing them from your body, and especially stopping the onslaught from coming in, you’re constantly causing damage inside your body. There are also other elements like uranium, which is well known, especially on the West Coast. As far as I know, you’re familiar with uranium, the most common form of uranium (238), and the number after the element is just what’s called the isotope. like there are radioactive elements in iodine. Even though you’re like, oh, iodine is super healthy. I need it for my thyroid. Yes, but some isotopes are radioactive, like lead, which is a heavy metal that’s not healthy for the body. Well, there are radioactive forms of lead as well, but uranium, the most common form, uranium 238, has a half-life they estimate, I’m not even sure how they do this, but it’s about four and a half billion years. by the time it’s losing its radioactive decay, like uranium being close to existing anymore, in its physical form. Once you get these radioactive elements, once you get these hot coals in your body, unless you’re doing something to detox and remove them, they’re going to be there.

The thing is, they’re such high-energy molecule oils that they’re causing disarray in the cell. They’re hard to remove because of that. That’s where I’m such a huge fan and just jump a little bit into solutions of humic and fulvic acid because humic and fulvic acid is just decayed plant matter over thousands of years. They have all these amazing elements in them but they also have this energy stored up. So fulvic and humic acid is safe to consume. It can be very helpful in many things, like giving you the proper minerals or metals of the body. Also, with detox, the reason it works well, even with radioactive elements, is because of the high energy of the fulvic and humic that it can match or overcome that radioactive element to neutralize or pull out.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

People’s eyes are opening right now. I think you are accomplishing our goal here. This first part of our talk has been extraordinary. I’m going to dig in even deeper here. To our audience, I hope you found our conversation insightful and helpful. If you’re a summit purchaser, stay right here because we’re about to dive even deeper into this discussion with Dr. Jay. If you’re not, click on the button on this page and get access to a continuation of this conversation and many others, and get the tools you need to reclaim your health. If you’re watching this continuation of my talk with Dr. Jay, thank you for being a valuable member of our community, and we’re going to dive right back in. 

So, Dr. Jay, you just started talking about fulvic and humic acid and solutions to getting radioactive elements out of the body. I want to explore that a little more because not all fulvic and humic acid is created equally. I mentioned before that in our programs we use CellCore supplements because I have never seen people get results the way they do with these products, including myself, my family, and along the way, when I was learning everything I could about carbons and, foundationally how to support the body and how to get toxins out. I stumbled upon something somewhere, and I don’t remember where, but not all fulvic and humic are the same. I get people telling me, well, I want to get this; I want to take this instead because it’s cheaper. I’ve got this whole fulvic and humic product. Let’s speak about that for a moment, because this is important for people to know.

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Yes. So, fulvic and humic is awesome. But it can, there can be a lot of variants of it where it comes from like all the stuff we have comes right from the US. We don’t source it overseas, which is important for us, but the extraction method. A lot of the time, when they’re extracting fulvic and humic acid to get it, there’s a chance that they could be using chemicals with that extraction. then you’re getting chemicals added to it. It can also denature it. Fulvic and humic right now, hopefully, you, the listener, have heard of it lately because it’s becoming more and more popular because of its power. Like, there are people like Dave Asprey who now have coffee that’s got fulvic acid in it. He advertises trace minerals, which sounds awesome.

You’re getting your minerals and your detoxing, but there are a lot of nuances to it. and without going through all the things like, for instance, adding it to your, brewing it to your coffee, I don’t think it’s a great idea because the scientists that understand humic and fulvic, talk about denaturing when you get over 165 degrees. It’s like if I’m making my coffee, which is around 190 or 200 degrees water temperature and some people even get it to boiling, the French press or whatever. It’s like, well, then I’m wondering what’s the chemical constituency of the humic and fulvic? Is it still intact or has it been denatured? Has anything changed in it? So we’re pretty particular about it making sure it’s got high energy. You can measure the pH. You can measure electroconductivity, and you can measure the amount of dissolved oxygen. The other thing I mentioned earlier in this interview was that minerals are metals and minerals are important for the body; obviously, they are less than 4% of our body makeup.

But every time I’m consuming minerals, and this is just basic organic chemistry, every time I’m consuming a mineral, it takes oxygen away from the body. So if I’m not careful, if I’m consuming a ton of minerals, well, then I could be oxygen deficient at the cellular level. You might be saying, well, I’m not; panting or breathing heavily feels like I’m fine. Remember, everything is down to the mitochondria, or cellular level, like the fascia, the connective tissue. We’re looking at such a tiny area that if you’re losing oxygenation, it’s changing the makeup of those tissues, which is immediately starting a whole process that we don’t want in the body in order to clean it up. So we make sure that our fulvic and humic are maxed out on oxygen because of the mineral content in there, so it’s not going to steal any oxygen. We just make sure that they’re pure and that there are different types of fulvic and humic. They come from different places. There are different things that you can mix and add to it to alter it as well. but Dr. Murray has been working with fulvic for many years. He says that it’s like a snowflake—not every snowflake is the same.

Everything has a uniqueness to it. He says that fulvic is one with 31 zeros of different possibilities. So the easiest way I can explain it is if I were trapped in this room, there’s one door out, and let’s say you were trapped with me, Laura, and I’m like, I got 10 keys over here, but you’ve got fulvic of keys. You’ve got one with 31 zeros after it. It won’t even fit on your iPhone calculator. Won’t even fit on your computer calculator. That many zeros? Chances are, Laura, you’re going to have the key. It might take you a little bit to find the key but you’re going to have to have the key to get out of that door. That’s what fulvic does. When there’s a pathogen, when there’s a chemical, a toxin that it needs to bind onto, or when there needs to be an element that needs to change oxidative states from two plus two or three plus or two, minus two, minus one. Chances are that fulvic and humic can do that for the body.

So it’s doing this on a microscopic scale within the body all the time when you’re consuming it. That’s why I believe fulvic and humic are the future, as we look at how we optimize human health. But, like you said, it’s not all the same. The easiest thing to do is to try it. We always tell people, Hey, it always sounds good, theorizing about stuff. But until you feel it, until you see it, you don’t know the quality. Unless you have an expensive laboratory to do some pretty crazy testing to try to find out what the differences are. But it’s just easier to try out, like for instance, CellCore and just feel the difference because the stuff definitely works.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

It’s a huge difference. Now, we’ve established so far in this talk that radium is or that radioactive elements are a silent killer. It’s a thing nobody’s talking about, and it’s still surprising that nobody’s talking about it. We’ve established that it’s in the water. That’s where you’re getting it. We’ve talked about how to get it out of the water. We’ve talked about how to make your water safe and how to bust myths about that. We’ve talked about how to get radioactive elements out of your body with fulvic and humic acids. What’s important about those fulvic and humic acids is that what I want to do next is give you an open floor. What do you want people to know? If you could let them know anything, you could be disruptive, you could tell the truth, and you could have this platform to give a message out there, knowing that 50,000 people are going to see this, what do you want them to know?

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Listen to your intuition. We’ve been trained so heavily, and I know that even with your background in your medical training, Laura, in that type of training, we’re just almost indoctrinated into that only the intellectual mind matters. Here’s how that’s judged. Here’s what we need to know. Here’s what we need to memorize. I think we’re going about it all wrong. I appreciate every medical professional who’s listening in the time you’ve put in and the person listening in their journey because they know that’s why you’re listening. You’re looking for answers for yourself and for family members. guess what? Like, you’re right where you need to be. This is the cutting edge. The speakers that Laura has brought together are unbelievable, just amazing. Just be grateful for where you’re at today and the few dollars you spent to have access to the summit. Like, it’s so worth it. Now it’s time to start listening in that intuitive mind, those intuitive thoughts, or, as a lot of people have said, right, listen to your heart. What’s your heart telling you?

It’s like, that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, because what’s my heart thinking? It’s like, yes, science has shown that your heart has 40,000 sensory neurons, which are brain cells in your heart. We have a brain up here. We have the gut, which, any time you have some emotional event happen, it’s like, “Oh my gosh, my stomach hurts. Or I got to go to the bathroom. I can’t digest food.” It’s like, yes, because we have the emotional enteric system. The emotional brain is in the gut. Well, we also have the heart, and I know the biggest thing that’s helped me in the last three or four years, especially with the chaos in the world, is to navigate it and to listen to things. I’m like, “No, no way, that’s not right.” And then have other thoughts, or I’m like, That makes so much sense. to spend the time and energy to go down that route, to then find out, this is something huge. For instance, radioactive elements were all like the heart, the intuitive mind, and the gut instinct. I listened to that.

I feel like, as I mentioned in The Matrix earlier, I feel like part of this simulation that we’re living in is that 80% of the people around us have to think and act differently so that it makes us question whether what we’re doing is right or not at the moment that we can step back and realize, no, I just need to like to walk the path I meant to walk and to move forward and not care about the masses and what they’re doing, is the moment that you now break free. In the movie The Matrix, Neo, you start seeing the code on the wall and start realizing what this is and that there is a code for health and for somebody to say, oh, it’s genetics and there’s nothing you can do. It’s like, bull crap. You can have a massive impact as soon as you empower yourself and figure it out. If you aren’t 100% well or feel amazing every day, then there’s still more that you need to learn and implement. These things, like Laura has put together with the summit, are some of the fastest ways to get information, and programs like hers are some of the best things that you can do to push yourself forward and accelerate it. An intuitive mind is a go-to for sure.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

I can’t remember. I’m so glad you said this because I want to add to it. I spent 21 years working in the Western medicine world before I finally retired from that, and in my functional and bio-regulatory medicine education, there have been many times I thought I was crazy. Once you see something, you cannot unsee it. And there are many people around me who do not see it. People I trust, people I love, and people I respect do not see it. Once you start seeing it, once you start doing the exploration, and once you start trusting your heart, trusting your gut, and trusting your instinct, you realize there’s no turning back. If you’re watching this right now and if you’ve made it this far, you’re one of those people for whom there’s no turning. There’s more to this than what we’re told in our conventional world with our Western practices. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of good happening over there, but a lot is missing. I’ve heard you lecture on this before about how we’re trained to think that unless it’s a double-blind, placebo-controlled study, it’s not valid. The information that we’re looking at is being given, but it can’t be valid unless it’s published in JAMA. Unless, it’s ridiculous. There’s so much information out there, and so many smart people are doing the research and looking at these things. We don’t need to have that type of study to know, okay, this is a fish that swims like a fish. It looks like a fish. It flops around like a fish. It’s a fish.

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Yes. Well, some of the most cutting-edge research is what’s in the clinic, what’s what clinicians are doing in the trenches to restore health. From a scientific perspective, we might not fully understand all the details or pathways of how everything works. We might think we do, but of course, every couple of years we learn something new, and it just blows our minds like, Wow, I didn’t even think about that. We think that we’re just chemical beings. We just have all these biochemical reactions, but we also have biophotons that are emitted. We absorb them from the sun. We also have electrical signals. We have scalar energy. We have all this magnetism. We now know that certain cells produce magnetism and can even sense magnetism in the body. As we continue to learn, just be open. The fact that maybe we don’t know everything right now, but if you put things into different principles and philosophies, does this make sense? The more complicated and convoluted something has to get, the less likely it’s that. I think it boils down to some simplistic things. And coming right back just swinging back to the radioactive elements for a moment. If you can’t taste radium, if you can’t smell radium, and if the only access to information is the EPA, you can’t send your water to a water company that’ll test more than 120 compounds in the water. The EPA even says there are 86,000 plus chemicals registered with the EPA. yet you can only test 120 in your water supply. You’re like, “Oh, I tested my water. Dr. Jay, it’s clean.” Probably isn’t, unless you’re distilling it. But then, again, you can add electrolytes and minerals. You don’t have to add it to the water. You can just take them in food, through food, or supplementation. 

You can be structuring or energizing your water. But if you’re in an area where there’s a lot of radon, that gas, or a lot of times you’re buying a home, it’s like, “oh, I got to get to see if there’s a radon issue.” That is a byproduct of radium breaking down. If you’re in an area where you have to test homes to see if there’s radon or not, you can pretty much guarantee that there’s radium in your water supply. That’s probably the cheapest and easiest way to equate. Okay, maybe I shouldn’t be drinking my tap water. Or maybe I need to get a little bit better filtration or maybe better water cleaning machines, which is water distillation because if it filters in the first time, it’s going to filter in the millionth time. The filters don’t work like that. You could be in an area where there’s a ton of one chemical, and that’s medium in your filter. It could fill up in a day or a week, and you’re not going to know. Oh, it still tastes good. Or maybe because it’s still pulling the chlorine-smelling molecules out, but a lot of chemicals you don’t taste or smell. Just keep moving forward. You’re right where you need to be. Look at the water. I think drinking water is more important than eating organic food. I know, boom, I could feel some arrows coming at me. But it’s like you’re drinking water every day. Like all day. You consume more water than you do food. Generally speaking, unless you’re a Diet Coke or coffee drinker all day, But still, there’s water inside those molecules.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes, I make my coffee with distilled water. Yes, I can drink. Oh, I.

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Yes, so do I. So it’s like you’re right where you need to be. You just have to continue to keep learning and realize, like, you don’t know at all. You’re never going to know it all. But as you start solidifying in, start seeing the code of health. In the matrix code, you’re going to start establishing principles and philosophies that, like things, will either fit in or they won’t. When they don’t, it’s like, Hmm, is that right? Like, do I need to spend $600 on water to be shipped to me? Because that’s the only type of water I can drink. It’s like, that doesn’t make sense to me. Like, go buy a countertop water distiller for 700 bucks; something will last you like, years and years. Besides the electricity, that’s a better investment than a month’s worth of water being shipped to you.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

You can get them a lot cheaper than that. My distiller and I ran two of them, and they were both under $300. Metal and Glass have a carbon component to get the VOCs out. It’s so good. Could you talk about RO water? Because I’ve had clients say my R0 system is rated for radioactive elements.

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Yes, rated and removing them all are two different things. Reverse Osmosis was developed by Robert Slovak, who doesn’t even recommend RO water. The guy who invented ROR doesn’t recommend that you RO water. He’s more of a fan of things like deuterium depletion. But the thing you have to understand is deuterium, which is hydrogen. Hydrogen has an electron and a proton. Deuterium has an electron proton and then an extra neutron. It’s a heavier molecule. Supposedly it’s going to break up and destroy your mitochondria. But the water you’re drinking isn’t what the mitochondria are using inside the cell, which makes it pure deuterium-depleted water. The most important thing you can look at with water is making sure you’re drinking pure water and not necessarily deuterium-depleted.

I’m fine if somebody has stage three or stage four cancer. Go get some deuterium-depleted water if you’d like to. But RO water and I’ve had other people test this, and when I was living in San Diego, this would have been 2017. I went and saw Noah Liebowitz. Dr. Noah Liebowitz is like a renowned muscle tester, and his dad is like a super renowned muscle tester. He’s like, bring some of your water. I just bought the Aqua True, which is like this countertop arrow system. I’m like, Oh, this is all the rage; it’s going to be awesome. He’s like, Nope, there’s something in the water that’s active too. I’m like, No way. He’s like, Yep. He’s like, Stay strong, stay strong. Like, I just couldn’t. I’m like, okay, is there something in the water? Then I ended up buying the Berkey. I’m like, Oh, it’s the Berkey. The Berkey must be way better. It’s all the same thing. It’s all filtering mediums. Yes, it’s way better than tap, but I’d rather get all the chemicals out of the water than just 96% of them or 98% of them, because those couple of chemicals that aren’t getting out and you’re drinking water every single day, that’s just going to bombard the body.

Like the body can’t detox those chemicals. If you’re constantly bombarding your body with those chemicals, You have to stop the intake and stop the inflow of them so the body can start detoxing. It sounds too simple, and it is. It’s like water distillation. I had a countertop unit for about four years in Puerto Rico, and my daughter’s homeschooled, my wife’s homeschool her. I work at home so I was drinking water all day. I had that thing going all day long. We moved to Florida. We’re in a house now. I have an automated system where it comes off as a spigot, like, yes, it was way more money, but the automation of it, I was like, okay, never going back, like, this is an awesome spigot.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Automated distilled water. You got it; it’s probably like a unit in your garage or something that’s constantly filling. Yes, how many?

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

I had it in our laundry room. But then it made the room too hot. Then I moved out to the garage. That was a little costly to have a plumber come back. So I’d recommend that the garage get it piped to your sink, have it to our icemaker to use that are ices, distilled, and you might be like, Oh, I can’t afford that great than do the countertop unit like Laura is recommending that’s a few hundred bucks like save up get and do that. When you’re ready to write because you feel better, you’re going to think better. You’re going to be able to provide more value to the world. You’re going to be able to make more money, afford more and nicer things, and then have that automated water distiller on the list. Because I’m telling you, it’ll save you a lot of time.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Well, it’s on my list, and I’ll tell you, I’m like the laughingstock of my friends because I travel with my distiller. I make sure I bring a giant suitcase with me and take that thing with me wherever we go. My whole family is enrolled in a distillery. So anytime I visit my family, we’ve got distillers. When we all get together, we bring extra distillers, and everybody is distilling it. The whole thing is in our family now. But I’m so grateful for it. I learned it from you and Todd. Okay, so well, I’m going to fill this time I have with you because it is gold to be able to talk to you. I would love for you to connect the dots. We know that underlying chronic health conditions, inflammation, and chronic disease are a few things. There are infections—chronic hidden infections. We had lots of talks on those at this summit. We’ll cover that. Then we’ve got lots of different toxins, radioactive elements being one of them, and we’ve got nutrient deficiencies. What I want you to do is link this to me right now. Nutrient deficiencies are caused by the first two. When it comes to this particular talk today and the radiation, how is this contributing? Well, first, I guess, explain what you’re talking about, Laura. What do you mean? A toxin causes a nutrient deficiency. What do you mean? It’s not just as simple as doing an organic acid test, taking magnesium, taking B vitamins, and taking, like, what? How are these two things causing nutrient efficiency and then linking it to radiation or radiating radioactive elements?

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Yes. If I’m drinking a toxin, then I can’t taste or smell it, and it’s in my water, and it’s getting into my mitochondria and destroying my mitochondria. Mitochondria make 95% of the melatonin in your body. Most have thought it’s up in the brain, in the pineal gland. That’s only 5%. That’s what triggers not seeing light. Then your pineal releases that melatonin and it gets in. It’s the trigger that makes you tired. But melatonin is one of the strongest antioxidants in the body, and the mitochondria make up 95% of it in the body. I mentioned earlier that the mitochondria are the main storage of magnesium, so you can say, “Oh, I ran a blood test for magnesium.” It’s like, well, only 0.5% or maybe 1% of serum red blood cell magnesium like the magnesium is in our serum red blood cells. If you’re fine in your blood, you’re only looking at 1% of the 100 percent of magnesium. Where’s most of the magnesium stored? It’s stored in the mitochondria. If I’m consuming a toxin that is damaging the mitochondria that’s supposed to produce melatonin, it’s supposed to store magnesium.

Can those organelles make or store those compounds? Well, the obvious answer is no way. Then if I take magnesium, but my mitochondria are always getting poisoned, at what point can I ever stop the magnesium supplement? It’s like I can’t because my mitochondria haven’t been repaired to store that magnesium. So most of the functional medicine world looks at nutrients, vitamins, and minerals like replenishing. That is step one. The easiest is to say, If I’m in a burning house right now, right? The drywall is on fire. The roof’s on fire. If we say that nutrient, we are adding nutrients in, right? Replenishing my nutrients is like decorating the walls of my house. What’s the first thing we’ve got to do with the fire? Like, we gotta put it out. We need the firefighters to come in. That’s what the toxins are. The toxins are what create the fire, or, as you said, the chronic inflammation in the body right there, creating the fire. We have to put the fire out, and only then are the nutrients going to be utilized well.

This isn’t to say that some of these are deficient. Fill the blank in potassium, magnesium, zinc, etc. It’s that saying, you can’t take that mineral or nutrient into the body. But what I’m saying is that when can you ever stop it? You can only stop it once you stop what’s causing the deficiency. If I have chemical reactions in my body, from A to B, from C to D, From A to B, I need some vitamin B6, from B to C, I need some zinc; and from C to D, I need B12. Or magnesium. If I am consuming a toxin that then attacks that pathway between B and C, I need way more zinc. That was in my analogy in order to get over the barrier. These toxins create a barrier from the chemical reaction of B turning into C, right? It’s hitting a wall. To get over that, I need a ton of this mineral or nutrient to get over that chemical reaction. The easy thing to do is to remove the toxin and the wall, so you don’t need as much. That’s why what we’ve always said from the get-go at CellCore, Dr. Todd and myself, is that just like you’re saying, Laura, is that toxicity creates deficiency. You don’t need as many nutrients or minerals when you’re healthy because you don’t have these barriers to get over. Address the toxicity, you won’t need as many nutrients. There’s nothing wrong with nutrients. But again, we don’t want to be decorating our walls. When our walls are on fire, we want to detox. Stop the fire. Get the firefighters in there. Then we can repair, remove the walls, paint, and decorate. That’s where the nutrient replenishment comes in, in that second phase.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

This is such a good analogy. I keep thinking about trying to hang wallpaper while the walls are on fire. I’m using this analogy.

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

They might need magnesium; I need more zinc. It’s like, That’s fine, I’ll put the fire out.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

It’s interesting. This is why I want to use this opportunity to share something that was part of my journey and my dive into functional medicine. When I first started studying functional medicine, I was like, I ain’t got time to go back to college and get more degrees on this. I already have plenty of medical degrees. I just need to learn all I can about functional medicine. What I did was hire people to teach me everything they knew. I’m like a deep dive, so I hired very prominent people in the functional medicine space to teach me how to interpret an organic acid test. How do I interpret a gut test? How do I interpret an adrenal test? How do I interpret a toxin test? So I spent like a year straight just studying the organic acid test. That test is so big. So I’m armed with my newfound knowledge to run organic acid tests on people and give them supplement protocols based on organic acids. So I was doing that. Then I met you and taught, and then I learned, Oh, putting the cart before the horse.

I’m not solving the toxin problem first. I’m throwing nutrients at a burning house, not taking the burning house and extinguishing it first. Now fast forward to how I do things, we don’t even touch organic acids until people have gone through close to six months of detoxing with me, and then I run an organic acid test to see, okay, what extra support do you need here now that we put that fire out? Nutrients are getting into the body. Now let’s get that to see what other support there is, because by then most of their symptoms are gone anyway, and they just have a few lingering things that they want to solve. Then I layer it in and do that. But that’s just, and I just have to share, that my whole practice chain surged once I learned this concept.

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

It’s like once it clicks, like you said, you can’t see. You did it like you’re like, oh, that makes so much sense. That’s why there’s an order. Opening drainage up, supporting mitochondria, cleansing the gut, killing parasites—these critters that are stealing things from you—and detoxing the chemicals out. It’s like when you progress down that path in the proper order, you start regaining your health, and you start being. I don’t mean a different person. You start being truly who you are, who you’re meant to be, and not weighted down by all this baggage. chemical bombardment, where the cells just don’t communicate. They don’t work. Like when they work, you wake up, you feel good at 2:00, and you still like it. It feels like you have energy now.

You’re good to go. When night time comes, you sleep well. That’s the place to get to. If you’re not there, that’s okay. I wasn’t there. I was a sick kid. I always thought I was fine when I compared myself to my wife, who nearly died twice in her life. But I wasn’t well myself either. I was just that typical dude, like, I’m fine, until I started diving in and realized, Wow, this is a whole other level. Then again, you peel another layer off the onion. It’s like, this is a whole new level, and it just gives you a different perspective. So I encourage you, no matter where you’re at in your journey, to keep moving forward. You’re right where you need to be; continue to learn. But the biggest thing is not just taking information in, but how fast can you go to implement some of this information? That is the golden nuggets are the things that make you feel like you are going to be a mover or shaker. It’s so easy. I’ll give you an example.

“Oh, my diet’s awesome. We only shop here; we only eat this. I’ve been doing this for eight years. It’s a great thing.” Diet is probably not your weak link; it’s probably something else, but human nature is like, I feel comfortable talking about diet. I feel comfortable studying there. It’s like, get out of your comfort zone and study things that you’re not comfortable with because that’s probably the pink elephant in the room that needs to be addressed in toxicity chemicals. Toxins are such a big thing. They are the reason why a lot of pathogens happen in the body. If you look at it, there’s a radium belt in Wisconsin that happens to be in the same area where there’s a lot of Lyme disease, like the Lyme endemic area. You can say, Oh, they live in Texas. Well, 80% of Texas has toxic amounts of radium in its water supply.

It’s like every state has tested for radium in their water supply. 27 out of the 50 states have excessive amounts of radium. Again, if we remove the toxicity, we put good nutrients in; you’re not going to have these overgrown H. pylori of C. diff. of Lyme disease. You’re not going to have that because you have a trainer environment, which I know you have speakers talking in. You have a training environment that allows things to flourish and not run rampant. So take the power back and realize it’s up to you. Nobody’s going to do it. We care more for your health than you do. Be the person, be the change you wish to see, and when you look back in a couple of years, you’re going to be so glad that you did that. Don’t be. That person looks back and regrets it. I wish I wouldn’t have been that person who likes imperfect action and immediate implementation; that’s the go-to.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yep, it’s what I always say: perfectionism is impossible. Just do something; sometimes this will be a lonely journey. I can remember feeling lonely on this journey. I know something that other people don’t see, and I can’t stop. I can’t stop studying it; I can’t stop knowing it. But you will find other people on that journey who understand you. Just keep looking for the people. Find the practitioners on this summit that resonate with you. They’re all hand-selected to be here on purpose. There are great people here to support you in terms of purchasing and selling course supplements. You have to get them through a practitioner. You can go to laurafrontiero.com and go to the shop. They’re there for our practitioners to watch Dr. Jay tells our audience where they can find more about CellCore Biosciences and where they can learn more from you. Are you in practice anymore? I don’t think so. You’re pretty much, I’m sure. supporting practitioners now.

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Yes, yes. I’m just full-time engaged in research and presenting to practitioners like yourself. If you’re a practitioner watching, just go to CellCore.com and register as a practitioner. Once you’re approved, which doesn’t take very long, you’ll have access to the back end, where all the learning and information are, and you can purchase CellCore as well. We have customer support; we have sales reps. I can help you as well, but just start somewhere, like don’t wait. Don’t be the person who’s going to regret your decision, like I wish I would have. It’s like, just make it happen. It’s not going to be a great time.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

I have to tag on to that and say, If you are a practitioner, this company will change your practice. The amount of information on the back end of the CellCore website, once you become a practitioner, and you build a practitioner account, is life-changing. I would encourage you to go in there and study literally. That’s what I did. I studied like I was drinking from a fire hose to the consumers of healthcare. Here are the ones who want to work with CellCore practitioners: We run CellCore protocols through our programs. Many of our speakers here do as well. Find those people. Jay, this has been just as amazing as I thought it would be. Thank you. I want to take this opportunity to thank you for your contribution to medicine, health, and humanity. You put your neck out there all the time. You do disruptive things. You talk about disruptive things. You go against the grain, and there’s a risk involved in that, and you’re willing to do it. You’re in that very small percentage of people who are willing to take a stand. So thank you for doing that and for being a mentor to so many practitioners. I’m one of the people who can say that I studied with Jay Davidson, with Todd Watts, and with the CellCore Group, and I encourage everyone to do that.

Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

Thank you so much, Laura. Yes, it’s the only way to be. I got my angels to work. We’re good. Keep moving forward.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

We are. Until next time, everyone should take good care. Bye now.