How Parasites Affect Thyroid Function

Hi everyone, this is Dr. Kelly. Welcome back to DrTalks. We’re continuing our series on thyroid health and we have a very special guest with my very good friends. Excellent practitioner. Dr. Kison Frank, welcome Dr. Frank.

Kison Frank, DC

Thank you so much for having me.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

No problem. You on top of my list, Dr. Kison because we go way back. I mean Dr. Kison, you have really opened up some doors for me and you know, really been so knowledgeable in your pursuit for just improving yourself in your clinic and I’m always following what you’re doing. So I’m just so happy to have you here.

Kison Frank, DC

Thank you again for having me. I’m excited to be here and to kind of discuss on the stuff that we’re finding and treating and getting success with.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

Yes, definitely. So we’re going to be talking about mostly about thyroid and parasites, which is a major problem. We all know it so Dr. Frank before we go down that road of getting into the parasites and thyroid. Tell us about yourself and your practice.

Kison Frank, DC

Well, I’m a chiropractor by education who got into functional medicine while I was still in college because I was trying to find better ways of getting results even for myself, you know, before I even got into practice and treating people, which led me down a lot of different pathways and roads to discovering different ways of finding things outside of just laboratory testing and how to find better results which led me through functional medicine. I got the epa genetics, doing a lot of testing genetics and looking at that. Then I also got to energy medicine and kinesiology things allowed me to kind of have the education on one side and built to treat appropriately on the other side for each individual based on their personal needs, even when it comes down to their genetic needs. And so by doing that, I think actually treat and fix myself for a lot of line things and parasites, stuff that I dealt with most of my life that were kind of missed and most of the functional medicine aspects due to laboratory testing. So it’s allowed me to kind of come through and fix my life in a lot of ways. And by doing that, I’ve been able to help quite a few other people. So.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

That’s such a common thread. And among a lot of us functional medicine practitioners is that, you know, we met a lot of roadblocks when it came to healing. And so we really had to just dive in ourselves to get ourselves better. And I share that story with you and I think that were some of the most tenacious people because we have the empathy for our patients. We have the empathy of knowing what it’s like to suffer. So kudos to you in your clinic and you’re very talented partners and doctors at the clinic will get into that at the end so people can learn more about how to find you. But let’s first talk about, let’s dig in right away. Let’s come out the gates of blazing here. How do parasites affect our thyroid?

Kison Frank, DC

Well, parents are thyroid issues have become more and more mainstream. We’re seeing more diagnosis of hashimoto’s autoimmune issues and things like this and what we’re gonna stand about parasites, is there an invasion they’re trying to take over your body and they’re trying to make it a place where they can feel at home. So doing that, they have to disrupt our normal immune system. They have to disrupt all the pathways there in our body that are gonna affect them in a negative way. And so they go through and almost in a terrorist type, we jokingly call them terrorist sites in our clinic because that’s what they are. They really are there hidden, they like to hide and they like to manipulate us, not just our mood or behavior, but how we eat what we eat. You know, how we are metabolism works, which is a big part of the thyroid, How we go through and fight these things off is through our immune system. And if immune systems are challenged, we have trouble there. So it weakens us. It allows toxicity to build up in our body. So some of the big things right off the bat, when we look at that, when a parasite comes in, the first thing it tries to do is it tries to feed and breed. 

Those are its two main goals in life, feed and breed? Well, to breed, it’s got to be able to feed properly and it’s got to feed on something so you just gonna steal the resources in your gut is gonna steal from you what you’re eating or it’s gonna actually feed on you. It’s gonna chew on your tissues and still your blood and everything else that needs to survive. And to do that, it will cause all kinds of other issues. One of the biggest things we see is, and parasite specifically is normally in the gut, that’s normally we first noticed it. We have parasites in the brain and liver and other organs, stuff that will come across a little more acutely. And we’ll see those things kind of pop up or they can go undiagnosed for long periods of time. Because laboratory testing trying to find parasites in the brain aren’t very good. I mean you can’t get things in the blood brain barrier to show up in the blood test usually. And so dealing with those things takes quite a bit. So it’s always interesting to see how the parasite will come and affect you on several levels. First thing it will affect your neurotransmitters, it will affect your microbiome, your gut, which creates a lot of your neurotransmitters such as serotonin, which makes you feel good. The only thing about serotonin is it your bowels move as well so your bowels are moving well, you’re happy things are going well the bowels don’t move toxicity builds up and then we have trouble clearing out which means that we’re absorbing. I think we’ve talked about this in the past, we have the detox re tox cycle where we’re trying to talk things out but it’s in our bowels so long that we start re absorbing it again and now we’re just swimming in a muddy pool here because we can’t filter anything out and get it out of the system. And so what they do is will disrupt that. 

They’ll mess with our neurotransmitters to slow down our bowels so they can feed on what they want to feed on. And the more they feed, the more toxins they produce because every time you feed an animal something comes out the rear end. So this can affect us by affecting our nervous system, our vagus nerve going up to the brain, brain fog at least different things that happen with that. So parasites are a really big problem and they also affect our hormone levels and they affect our ability to manage our hormones to deliver because the toxin buildups slow the liver down and then we can’t convert thyroid hormone very well. So T 4 93% I believe of all T. Four that’s produced by the thyroid gets converted in the liver. And if it’s not converting it properly they were gonna show low T. Three in the hypothalamus is gonna say hey we need to start making more and so tell the pituitary start making more. TSH and then I’ll start ramping up the thyroid even more. And even though we’re pushing harder, we cannot get delivered to convert any faster. And so it slows that down and the thyroid can get worn out.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

So are you saying in effect that parasitic infection can set off like that cell danger response where the right the body is just like we’re under attack. We have to shift our resources, We have to shift what we’re doing and then we don’t feel well and we have brain fog. You know, like you said, our bulb, everything is affected. That brings me to question. So what are your top symptoms? Like? How do we know? How does a person who’s watching this? Like how, how do they know that they might have parasites? I mean you said a lot of things, but they’re anything else specifically.

Kison Frank, DC

So when you look, when you look at parasites here, they’re kind of a great pretender or their symptoms come across as many other things. And so a lot of times we don’t realize we have, we have an upset stomach. We have something going on. It comes and goes waxes and wanes. Most people realize that with the full moon and new moon cycle, it changes how they respond to how they act as a general rule during the new moon, parasites kind of wake back up and they ramp up to the full moon for a few days, they lay eggs and then they kind of go into a little where they kind of resting for a few weeks and this is why people kind of go back and forth and always asking, well, rude questions. You ever get an itchy butt? Yeah, every once in a while, but not all the time. Well, that’s usually when they’re going down laying eggs around the anal opening there where they can be expressed out of the body and that plays into it. So something interesting as well, when we talk about the cell danger response to how this works is we kind of operate in two systems in our body, our parasympathetic, which is rest and digest or sympathetic, which is fight or flight. 

And what’s fascinating about this is fight or flight is like a big red button, Okay, the body is sitting there in a normal state. Everybody’s at the factory is what I call the Factory Fortress analogy here, we’re in the fact that we’re producing things or building things, everything’s going great, everything’s chill. Then something comes along and sets it off and somebody has a big red button. Everybody gets to your battle stations, we’re under attack. Now if you have a bear chasing you, this is what you want to happen, your body completely shift the way it operates for you can get away or fight something off and then you escape, hopefully escape and then you get better and everything goes back to normal. Everyone goes back to the factory floor, starts working again. Now the real problem is is when we get a hypersensitive to things and our toxicities are high in our body and we’re already at a high stress level. Little things set us off. We could have somebody walk up to us, we have to carry and walk up to us and talk to us that you see, you see them coming like uh you just feel it rising up, your body shifts and changes anxiety starts rising up and so this plays into that so that fight or flight. And most people don’t realize how the cortisol the D. H. Ratio works. 

And you’re familiar, pregnant alone, steel or shunting, which means that as we’re going through and making cortisol for stress, it either has to pathways going, going to DHS to make our sex hormones or testosterone, which, my goodness, There’s so much testosterone therapy out there right now for everyone, men and women because they’re so deficient. But at the same time stress is so high so they’re producing more cortisol and it’s lowering testosterone lowering all of our other estrogens that we need and things are getting way out of balance. And so when that happens, what’s interesting is when the D. H. D. And cortisol ratio gets out of balance here and we’re staying at high level to get parasites create a chemical stress in the body which really drives this which can affect our neural tissue health. So are willing to have good sleep and to feel good, feel happy, have good memory and learning it also affects our muscle skeletal health. So we lose muscle mass, is not producing testosterone, then you get the carbohydrate metabolism. So this is also where we see diabetes and things like this really start coming in with more people under stress because when you’re under stress and you’re in that state of sympathetic dominance in that fight or flight all the time, your body’s using sugar for energy and you have sugar cravings all the time. 

So you’re riding that roller coaster up and down and then you get into it where you start getting autoimmune issues building up because the body starts attacking itself because the immune system is still up regulated and didn’t know how to handle the inflammatory aspects back and forth. You can’t detoxified properly and then you have metabolism issues and then you have the entire endocrine system which goes into the thyroid of course. But you also have ovarian testicular issues. And then you also have pancreas, insulin going back to the diabetic issue again. So the stress of these things cause on your body completely throw everything out of whack. And you remember stress kills. Well we just talked about how it does it right?

Dr. Kelly Halderman

Exactly. Very well put. I really think it’s interesting when people think it’s voodoo when I start talking about the phases of the moon because I’ll ask them if they ever noticed. If you have animals, how they start to get real squirrely, you know, at times and they’re like, oh yeah, that is really true. It’s like well there’s case and point, there’s no placebo effect there. They don’t really pay attention to the cycles of the moon. I have noticed this with especially with Children that have parasites. It’s you can document and that’s one of the most important things I think for the listeners, document your symptom patterns. Just document but like don’t pay attention to the moon. Just document how you’re feeling. Really qualitative quantitative. If you have like an or a ring or something, you can be tracking of course get you know, professional health by someone like dr Tyson, you know. But really we can kind of start to look at the patterns. And you’re saying that these pat if you have a parasite, they might really rear their ugly head during these cycles of the moon. Which is interesting. And I would say that not always right. I mean it’s not always, you know, it can or cannot happen where their symptoms may or may not be displayed more, but it certainly is

Kison Frank, DC

Defined in seasons too that we see it progress more and then you have these things called super moons which the moon is much closer to the earth. And if you have two super moves back to back, it’s almost like it doesn’t let up for six or eight weeks. It’s just instead of having a two week on, you’re just constantly right this way for 2-8 weeks and you’re just in miserable pain, you just don’t feel good. And that really plays into that. So there’s various is to it. But as a general rule, we see this happening and you know, anybody who’s an outdoorsman who hunts for fish, they have charts based upon the moon cycle to know when to go be successful and they’ve been proven out. People follow these things because animals react to the gravitational pull of the moon and how they feed and eat and sleep and everything else.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

Okay, so, um what parasites moving back kind of into the thyroid, what parasites are usually associated with thyroid disease that you’re seeing?

Kison Frank, DC

Well we have giardia we have, which is one that comes from usually contaminated water, which can play into that as well. Cryptosporidium is one that I see quite a bit. This one actually is a one that’s really hard to get rid of. It takes six weeks or six months to a year because crypto goes into a shell and will protect itself and you almost have to starve it out because if you treat it for 3 to 4 months and you let up look back up, start back over again. So this one, you really have to get after it. There’s some newer, different treatment models that we’re working on with some lasers and some other energy stuff. I think we’re actually able to get in there a little bit quicker and get after that blast. This calmness is one that actually will create uh increase the thyroid antibodies. And to be able to hit like a plays into it. But the most common one that I see in my clinic and it’s the most common parasite you see is called hookworm. So Nikita Americanas and this thing is about an inch half long. It looks a little bit thicker than the hair. And so most people see in their stools if it does come out. But this thing will actually go through and feed on the lining of your gut. And so you have these folds in your gut and have these delights fingers sticking off the top of the finger. 

There’s little tiny fingers here. Well they come up chew on those and then they use the blood and they’ll sit there and almost like they’re sucking on the teat to use a description there and they’re stuck in the blood out, which is why they cause anemia in the body. So low energy start to make you feel more run down. But if you get thousands of these things in your gut, what happens is they start puncturing holes in your gut lining which is kind of a parasitical dis bios or leaky gut that we’re creating and you know as well as I do when you get leaky gut. Well now we start getting things to start getting into the body that shouldn’t be there haven’t been filtered properly. This is why we see people a lot of gluten issues because they start to affect the body because things are leaking into the body because this and most of the gluten, a lot of the nut allergies things I deal with the kids and everything else. We take care of the parasites and we’re always amazed that how that goes away they don’t have much issue with it anymore. 

Dr. Kelly Halderman

Because it feels like you’re getting at the root cause and it’s healing it up and you could do those tests till you’re blue in the face and just remove all those foods. But if you’re not taking care of the parasites that cause forget about it. So that’s great.

Kison Frank, DC

I used to do all those food allergy test kits and the frustrating thing about it was you go through and you okay we’re gonna eliminate this. We’re gonna do this diet now six months from now. All the stuff they started right? So but to get back real quick just I just want to catch up one thing here is when we start to get that dysbiosis or leaky gut and we get gluten. So the leaks into the body. We get something called molecular mimicry and the immune system starts to attack that and it looks like the thyroid. And so then we start developing thyroid autoimmune issues where the body is attacking the thyroid and we start to see these levels rise. And I’ve seen it across the board of my patients with Hashimoto’s. When we come back and we start doing the parasites, all these numbers start dropping significantly.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

Wow. That’s incredible. That’s really a piece of information. I’ve done many interviews and I haven’t heard that piece yet. Okay so let’s go back a little bit and let’s talk about those parasites chewing on those villa. I have to assume that that’s going to cause some new major nutrient deficiencies. Are you seeing that across the board? Are you seeing a pattern at all? And then that same thing that it rectifies after treating? 

Kison Frank, DC

Usually what we’re treating their well we’ll see a lot of mineral deficiency. Things like that. We have to increase the mineral count. But the other side is we also need to come through and find some way to rebuild that faster for can heal quicker. So sometimes it’s vitamin C. To build the college and sometimes a straight collagen. Sometimes there’s other things that we need to increase in there. One product that I have that I found works really great for healing outside skin is called low quality. It’s a citrus fruit. The hills the skin. And so we have that that we put in our remedies that will actually go through and help heal the gut lining and faster with that, so.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

Very interesting. Okay so then that leads me to the testing for parasites. How do you uniquely at your clinic test for parasites?

Kison Frank, DC

Well this is something that that I found interesting as I got into energy medicine started testing this way because originally I started my life as a doctor as a functional medicine. So we did the stool test with all these things here And so you get the stool test. People spend all this money on they get it back and look and go no parasite there. I’m going yeah I think there is. And then I had on occasion I had a patient actually hold the parasite out the stool put it in there. Take a picture and show it to me said the lab and lab said they can’t find it? I’m like this lab is terrible except for the fact that when these worms die they release inside that actually break themselves down. So by the time the lab sometimes they’re not there and so I’m going we’ve got to find a better way of doing this and they really sticky.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

I mean I’m sorry to interrupt but I really want to ask this question. I have heard that the parasites are typically so well attached to our digestive system to our you know the entirety that These stool tests. I mean they don’t miss just some they miss a lot. Would you concur with that?

Kison Frank, DC

Okay well it depends on the parasite to I mean like if you’re having hookworms or some of these other ones, these microscopic ones where there’s hundreds of thousands of them that some of them are gonna come out, you’re gonna find something in there. But if you have a tapeworm, unless a piece breaks off, you may not see it unless there’s eggs in there. You may see because there’s not usually much competition, not usually full of 20 tapeworms, usually one of them and it doesn’t create enough environment for usually more than one. You get different types. You could have uh beef tapeworm, pork tapeworm or several others in there. But usually it’s kind of one major one. So but unless the piece breaks off or something else that they can see in there, that one is kind of hard to find. But that also takes me back to. When I started actually learning the energy medicine, started doing this, I start actually going to be able to find things that other part of the body that we’re going to show up on the stool test. There were I mean liver flukes because the liver fluke doesn’t go down into this. I was able to find those with energy medicine. We started finding parasites in the brain and all these people, the toxoplasma Gandhi which comes from cats which I’ve read an article is considered the most successful parasite in the world now and this thing will actually affect, your mood, your behavior, your inhibitions, everything you go through and it’s absolutely incredible because cats weren’t really something that people kept as pets Up until you know the 1800 except for the Egyptians, they weren’t an indoor animal and now they’re indoor animals. And now this thing is required to actually be able to reproduce only in a cat. So to get there it will get into mice or some other form of bug or something to get to the cat and it will remove the inhibitions of the mouse and the mouse will run right at the cat. The cat lead it.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

Yeah there was a paper not that long ago that said that there’s an increased risk of schizophrenia and males who had a cat growing up. It’s like there’s probably your answer. You know they love the brain for some reason talk so really enjoys being in our cerebral area. But that goes back to the crazy cat lady, you know what are you trying to say, Kison? Come on now,

Kison Frank, DC

I’m just saying check your cats. That’s all I’m saying. Because I’ve had patients who literally were on death’s door with this in the brain and we’ve had to do some incredible things to say. I had one girl that came in to me, she was about 14 time and she was living on I. V. S. I didn’t think she was gonna live through the year and we had to address that certain sounds that set her off. She just completely just fall out of the chair. You know, other times she’d be digging into her head bleeding down her face and everything from this in her brain when play certain sounds, certain tunes or frequencies music and absolutely, she just clawing at herself trying to get to it. So it’s absolutely very disturbing. But right side is she’s now raising horses and riding competitions and has several different jobs and she’s just getting after life. So it’s incredible wearing her parents out.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

You found that using the energy techniques that you in your clinic and your staff that you have perfected because I mean, we when we met years and years and years ago we talked about kinesiology testing that you and your clinic with your techniques. I mean, everyone just take a look if you can in back of Dr. Kison, I mean, this is like half of his clinic right here. We’re just talking about how I work. It’s very, very impressive. And so again, you’re able to see, find things address them, that traditional testing is not able to test for. But I do think you know, if someone can’t come and see you, I think that you gave us some really good information on, what is it, you know, what does it look like to have a parasite, You don’t have to have parasites in your stool to have it. You know, you could have some sick book symptoms, they can be all over the place. And those again, those are those stealth infections where it’s so hard hard to get the proper diagnosis because it masquerades as so many things. You could have a patient with migraines. You could have one with chronic bloating skin rashes and you could be throwing spaghetti at the wall in terms of treatment, spending thousands and thousands of dollars when what you’re offering is more of a precision precision strategy. And I really, really it’s one thing to fight about. 

Kison Frank, DC

This, I was actually able to test and figure out what specifically you need and custom blend that together for what you need specifically. You may have the same parasite infection, somebody in your family, but you may need a different remedy because of what you’re dealing with there. So let me go back to when we first met, I wasn’t doing energy medicine and let me quote you want it because because I remember this because it stuck in my head, you said Dr. Frank. If you would just learn to do this, you’d be such a good doctor.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

I don’t know. No, I think I said such a better doctor. I don’t remember saying that. But yeah, I mean everything happens for a reason, right? But I’ve just I’ve seen a lot of amazing things with the tool. I just knew that you could take it and run with it and here we are years later and you are definitely stay ahead of the pack and what you’re doing at your clinic. Yes. Yeah, absolutely truth. So you know let’s just touch on the treatment. So you alluded to the fact that if I have a parasite but my son has the same one. You know. Typically we would think oh it’s the same treatment kind of talk about your thoughts on that.

Kison Frank, DC

So that the technique we use we call somatic residents testing is a form of kinesiology. We can go through and we can test it. So I can actually have you hold the frequency of where that parasite is that you’re testing too. And we can figure out what specifically your body needs. It. Maybe you both have the same infection. One of the more chronic ones more acute and you may need something differently. So the other side is actually looking okay. Do you need a herbal? Okay well we can blend herbal together or we can come through and make it a homeopathic version of it. Or we can invert the frequency of it to make it something different. So if I have a parasite, take the frequency of the parasite. Invert that frequency to kind of help your body actually cancel out that. Let’s say I come through and take a let’s say we need name or pumpkin or lok water when these other ones that hook warm. I can actually go through there and actually monetize it in at a higher frequency level one X. All the way to one M which is one times or up to one million times for the frequency of it and put that homeopathic and combine those together and come through and do that. Sometimes people need herbal sometimes they don’t. 

Pregnant women, we can’t give them most of the herbs that you need for parasites because they’re pregnant because I mean it can cause abortions. So what we do is we go back and say okay I can treat it create a homeopathic just the energy frequency of it and they can do that just fine. Don’t have any effect on them but they can still expel parasites with it. So it’s quite interesting some of the different things that we found with that that actually still get results and the pictures we get from our patients. My my assistant at least have the collection.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

I’m sure I’m sure. So then I know again this is going to be different from patient to patient. But what do you see as the treatment courses it usually two rounds three rounds rounds every year. How’s that cadence?

Kison Frank, DC

So I work with more chronic ill people. So they’re already coming in there already and in an issue I have some other ones there and some people you know a month two months we get through it. And what I do is and I learned this the hard way is I look you’re not testing to anymore. This that’s great hey we fixed it three or four months later. They come back and say it’s starting back up again. And so what I’ve learned to do is I come back and say okay it’s not showing now we’re gonna put you on a maintenance dose. We’re gonna give you a very tiny bit for three months and we’re gonna make sure we’re gonna test and make sure and make sure we take care of any eggs or anything else that can catch and start all over again. You don’t go through all that work and put that effort in and not have the vigilance to go through and make sure it’s there. So I usually go through and we get after it pretty quick and hard. Make sure the body can handle, make sure the detoxifying properly from it. And so we have to address all these things with it. Sometimes it’s a multifactorial case. We got line, we got mold issues and all these other things that are playing into it and we can’t push it as hard. 

We need to address it and put in what’s called checkmate you know stabilize it there to keep it from progressing while we’re cleaning some of these other things up and that becomes an issue. And this is where like Lyme disease these parasites get infected with Lyme even though you clear all the body they keep releasing it back into it and if your immune system or stress kicks up your system dips also you got lime again that complaint which also affect thyroid functionality and everything else as well. So there’s all these different factors we have to look at and address. Is there hidden viruses in there? We deal with Epstein Barr. We have some other things that cause neurological issues that are playing into it. So all these are factors that causes stress on the body and will essentially take the body and shifted away from the thyroid working properly and put it on the adrenals. And so we got to get it back out of that state where we get the thyroid function high level and then supporting with its glandular with minerals whatever it is to make sure the liver’s function high level for actually convert that over the body can use that properly.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

And then so I have two questions based on that. The first is let’s say we just have a healthy individual who just want some tips on trying to avoid getting a parasite infection. Is there are there anything that even when your patients get over their parasite infections and you know they’re still on you know perhaps a lower dose but they really want to know is there anything that you encourage other than keeping the acidity of the stomach with something that I would think and just keeping is there anything else?

Kison Frank, DC

Well I mean the biggest thing is to make sure your micro bot is strong. So you can take good probiotics because these you got good bacteria and bad bacteria. The bad bacteria like the wolves, the good bacteria like the sheepdogs trying to protect us so they’re gonna fight for you. They’re gonna defend you, they do everything they can to help you. And so we want to keep that very strong. So in that we need to stop putting things in their heard it a lot of sugar, a lot of other things like that they’re going to affect it and start feeding things. We need to not just the pre biotics but the good fibers, everything we need to help them grow but we also need to make sure we’re getting a good balance in there. So key for Kabuki uh just taking those things are gonna be a huge part of that just maintaining that health there. So it does something does slip through the stomach it can fight off and deal with it and get rid of it. So that’s one of the big ones keeping your immune system ready for that. And it’s not just about boosting you know immunoglobulin things like that. It’s actually building up these forces in your gut to help with that because it’s really kind of the first big area and get it or you’re gonna breathe it in, it’s gonna come to the lungs but in case that we need to have something there even your micro bodies all of your body and your lungs I think so you need that everywhere to protect you. And so that would be kind of the first thing I really look at, okay, what do we need to do for that? How do we maintain that health there?

Dr. Kelly Halderman

Okay. Any sort of foods that you find that people just keep getting exposed to? Is it maybe pork or just make sure you cook certain foods? Any tips on that.

Kison Frank, DC

You know, It’s so hard to tell anymore because I have people that show with parasites from all around the world, they never left the state, they left their own state, you know, and it’s so much just on the food now that gets transferred around. I mean it’s hard to say really because you go to the store and they have fruit, fruit and everything from everywhere they put together. You don’t know what’s being blended together. So make sure you wash everything real well, I’m a big fan of using ozone. I like little ozone machine. I think we get vegetables or fruit we put in a big bowl we put in there, we bubble it for about five to miss and it kills off all the stuff on there and it lasts twice as long in refrigerator. Two teenagers. So that doesn’t really happen.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

But I know they eat us out of house and home anyway, so eat it really fast. Nothing, nothing goes bad. Well I think that we covered a lot. I think that there’s some really practical information and really awareness aware this is really is really important because you know there’s just some practitioners who say everybody has parasites and you have to do parasite cleanse and some people get in big trouble because they do these boxed cleanses, their detox pathways aren’t open, they end up re tox defined themselves. I’m sure you’ve seen this over and over as a clinician. So I I really like the guidance and you know, where can people actually find you, where are you located and how do we get a hold of you or your staff and your clinic? So if anyone wants to make an appointment to see you, how do we do so?

Kison Frank, DC

So I’m in Wichita, Kansas and we treat patients all of the youngest states and other countries that fly in to see us. We kind of specialize in chronic illness. So people come in for package deals and we’ll treat them every day. They can spend time with every day. We go through the whole cleansing process there. But you can find us on our website which is www.docerelifecenter.com, which I’m sure you’re probably gonna post it somewhere in the info with this. And then you can call our office at 31637, I’m sorry 5313030. And that will allow you to kind of get a hold of us and we always offer a free consult. I have five doctors in the clinic here and we are Up and running and we’re doing really good work here with all of them. So I’m really proud of all these doctors here. I learned from them all the time. So it’s incredible having there. So if I’m not available, you may get one of the other doctors and they’re all great, we work together as a team. So it’s uh it’s encouraging. So, but call, you get a free 20 minute console. We do zoom calls if we need to, we kind of see how we can help and what we’re finding and how we can change your life for the better.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

Very good. And you can do everything virtually right? I mean, you don’t really, you don’t have to have that. I think that’s so important too because a lot of people, you know that it’s just with Covid, we’re not used to going anywhere. But you can do everything that if I was standing in your clinic, you can do it. You’re going to get, you know, like a lot more exposure to the, I mean you have a lot of really neat therapies in your office. So, you know, of course, if you can do that. That’s great. That is totally great. So, how about one thing that Dr. Kison is especially doing right now to stay healthy. How about a tip?

Kison Frank, DC

What I’m doing? Stay healthy right now. Well. Well working out, you know, eating right? That’s the typical answer, right? I’m really kind of focusing on some of the different homeopathic things that we’re doing. And I’m actually finding that some of those actual frequency things work better for me. And so we’re coming up with some new ways of doing stuff to help people kind of figure out how to keep these frequencies in their body a little bit better and be able to balance out. So something we’re working on there, so.

Dr. Kelly Halderman

Nice. Nice and experimenting on yourself. That’s always I mean everything that I ever learned. That’s right. That’s great. Well, that means you have a lot of faith in everything that, you know. Of course. Oh right. Right. When they’re when they’re around. Right? Very good. Well, it has been a pleasure to have you dr Tyson always really nice to see you. I mean we’re good friends beyond this. You know this doctor talks but we’re really blessed to have had you today and I like all your stuff so people can find you. But just thank you so much for your time today.

Kison Frank, DC

You’re absolutely welcome. I really appreciate it.