Full Transcript Introduction to Red Light Therapy 0:00 Further by modulation is actually scientific term, 0:03 which basically means that we use 0:06 in light with benefits for health, 0:09 photo stimulation and photo modulation. 0:13 In to in the breakdown more will easy for for people 0:19 for listeners to understand is just think of the as sunlight. Yes. 0:23 So the sun is the ultimate source of energy on the planet. 0:27 And it generates light and B perceive it as a white light. But. 0:31 Welcome to Doctor Talks. 0:33 The podcast where every episode leads to a healthier you. 0:36 Join us as we navigate the world of optimal health, 0:39 uncovering groundbreaking strategies to conquer chronic disease. 0:43 In each episode, we'll bring you the latest insights 0:46 from leading health experts, medical innovators, and wellness warriors. 0:50 If you're seeking to transform your health journey, or if you're looking 0:54 for answers to burning questions, you've come to the right place. 0:58 Get ready to unlock the secrets of lifelong health and vitality. 1:02 This is Doctor Talks, 1:04 real talk from real doctors on the issues that matter to you most. 1:10 Everyone, welcome 1:11 back to the Integrative Health podcast with Doctor Jen. 1:14 Today we're going to be talking about red light therapy. 1:17 We have Doctor Zulia Frost. 1:20 She is a doctor of general medicine and pediatrics. 1:22 She's also a doctor of traditional Chinese medicine and acupuncturist. 1:26 Zulia is a renowned clinical worldwide for her 1:29 use in research as neuromodulation, photo 1:33 bio modulation therapies in energy and other energy based treatments. 1:38 Zulia devoted 30 years of clinical practice 1:41 and treated over 10,000 patients accumulating experience 1:44 and has helped thousands of patients, making her personal contribution 1:48 in promoting a healthy lifestyle and well-being. 1:50 Seen high rates of success in relieving pain and regaining function 1:54 while using photo bio modulation, setting her on the path to pursue her vision 1:59 for this advanced technology to become a standard of care 2:02 in every home, she co-founded recharge and now works as a clinical director, 2:07 dedicating her efforts in promoting red light therapy with Flex beam. 2:11 Targeted wearable red light therapy device. 2:15 Welcome, Doctor Frost, so excited to have you here today. 2:18 So tell us a little bit about your background. 2:22 Thank you so much, Jen, for having me on your podcast. 2:24 Yeah. Well, my background. 2:28 So I was clinician from the moment that was born, I think. 2:32 Yeah, 2:33 I was my mother was a medical doctor. 2:35 So I was in the medical environment all my life. 2:39 And of course, I studied medicine, work as a pediatrician for a number of years. 2:44 And then I discovered this, you know, technology, which actually changed my life 2:49 because I suddenly realized you can use, different modalities to, upregulate
Doctor Frost's Background and Clinical Journey 2:55 your body, to make your body to be working more efficiently and heal faster. 3:01 But of course, 3:03 it happens because I was, in unfortunate, 3:07 the traumatic situation, and I had to heal myself. 3:11 I became a patient. 3:13 Yeah. 3:14 So, that kind of put me on this path of discovery. 3:18 What else is there? What are the technology 3:21 and modalities we can use to get our health under control? 3:26 And, I 3:27 would say my latest years I've been using technology. 3:31 So treating people with lights, I was treating people 3:34 with electricity, with sound, you name it. 3:37 And I was getting results. 3:40 Fantastic results. 3:41 So, eventually, I just thought, you know what? 3:46 I want something for people to take home. 3:49 Like a device where they can, after seeing me, they can take something home. 3:54 Tangible energy device. 3:56 And they continue the healing at home. 3:58 And so when they see them next time, they will be much more, 4:03 you know, progression with their injury or inflammation or whatever. 4:07 They experience better. 4:10 So I think it's hard because, you know, you you go to the doctor, 4:14 you go to the hospital, whatever, and then you're sent home. 4:16 But most healing has to be at home. 4:18 So stuff you do every day. 4:20 Yes. And trust me, I don't know any patient who would be compliant 4:26 because people in fundamental, in their nature, they're lazy. 4:31 Yeah. 4:31 Like, yeah. 4:33 Well, it's not the lazy lazy. 4:35 It's because we have so many responsibility and we have to work. 4:39 And you know, there is so much pressure if you if you mom in the house, 4:43 you have kids, you have family you have to cook to to do, you know, serve everyone. 4:48 And there's just never enough time for you to complete that healing. 4:53 And if you have a tool which helps you in this journey 4:58 to make it faster, to make it more efficient, why not use it? 5:02 Right? Absolutely. 5:04 So what exactly is photo bio modulation? 5:09 And that includes red light therapy. 5:11 Could you define those? What those are for those listening. 5:15 Yes. Photo 5:16 by modulation is actually scientific term, 5:19 which basically means that we use 5:22 in light with benefits for health 5:25 photo stimulation and photo by modulation. 5:29 In to in the breakdown. 5:32 More more easy for for people for listeners to understand 5:37 is just think of the as sunlight. Yes. 5:40 So the sun is the ultimate source of energy on the planet, 5:43 and it generates light and B perceive it as a white light. 5:47 But really, remember, lesson from physics at school, 5:51 when you put the prism, you can break it down 5:54 and the light becomes blue, green, red and invisible infrared. 6:00 So when we talk specifically or fuze in a specific colors 6:05 or nanometers of the wavelengths, then they talk with specific therapy, 6:10 most research and safest out of all this therapy 6:15 I listed, it's the use of red and near-infrared light. 6:19 Because the wavelengths are long and they don't cause any problem with health. 6:26 Of course. 6:27 Scientist, learn how to basically harness the power of the sunlight. 6:33 So it's literally the same wavelengths as coming from the sun. 6:37 So it's very natural for us. 6:40 But many people are very surprised. 6:43 And when they hear this, what is red light could do? 6:46 I mean, red light. 6:47 What is this lamp? 6:49 Red color. Whatever. What is red light? 6:52 What is basically that? 6:54 Exactly what I describe. 6:55 It's a part of the spectrum of the sunlight, which then scientists 7:01 managed to put either in the form of laser or LEDs. 7:04 And when you shine, you get benefits 7:08 to health. 7:11 Yeah, absolutely. 7:12 And there's a lot of research with long haulers, with photodiode modulation. 7:17 And this is really an untapped area 7:20 that a lot of conventional doctors maybe aren't talking about. 7:24 And it's it's accessible. 7:26 You can do it at home. It's painless. 7:29 You know. 7:29 And for those that are watching that know what red light therapy looks like, 7:33 you know, it's just it can be a 7:37 panel on the wall. 7:39 I like mine because it's on the go. 7:44 So I take this when I travel 7:46 and I will wear it around when I'm cooking dinner or something. 7:50 I'm going to wear it now while I'm walking on the podcast, but I, I really like 7:55 I like things to be accessible to, 7:58 especially like working mothers or stay at home mothers. 8:01 Anyone who is just running around. 8:04 And that's the hardest part about a lot of these, you know, maybe 8:08 biohacking or even just other modalities 8:12 that aren't taking a supplement or a drug, 8:16 you need to have time to do it. 8:19 So that's why I really like that. 8:20 It can be on the go for me. 8:22 So how does how does this red light therapy help? 8:26 So there are different spectrums of light. 8:28 They do different things like how does it actually work when you use it. 8:34 It's a 8:35 very, very good question and I totally agree with you. 8:38 Because, you know, we need something which can help us 8:42 once we do something else. 8:45 So, how does it work? 8:47 Its light has unique properties, 8:51 and particularly in when it's in red and near infrared light,
What Photobiomodulation Means 8:55 it's absorbed the photons of light absorbed inside your cells 9:00 by the organelles called mitochondria. 9:03 So now you ask what mitochondria. 9:06 It's basically your, energy center in the cells. 9:09 So something which make energy for the cells to be alive 9:13 and to run any functions in the cells. 9:16 So it makes sense to keep your mitochondria healthy, 9:20 strong and functioning. 9:22 So you have many, many, many of them. 9:24 There's the scattered there on the cell. 9:26 And so if you have a means to optimize it and work 9:31 harder and make more energy, what does it mean? 9:34 It translate for your cells in the body that your sales will be a little happy 9:39 and they can, run all the physiological processes, 9:43 in, in time efficiently. 9:46 And the you not going to be basically 9:49 you're not going to be sick if you use it, on regular basis. 9:53 So one specific area we took it's energy. 9:57 Then there is another effect of, light therapy. 10:01 It's kind of, bypass of the effects, 10:04 like when the photons bind in mitochondria, 10:09 it's somewhat like solar panels. 10:12 You know, solar panels also accept the photon of light, 10:16 and they use it to make the energy in the house in the same way 10:21 mitochondria, except the photon and make energy in your body. 10:25 But in the bypass of this process, it's, 10:29 releases nitric oxide, nitric oxide. 10:33 It's a it's a gas, but it's good. 10:35 Very unique property of vaso dilating. 10:38 So make the blood flow better. 10:42 And this is crucial if you have any injuries 10:46 or inflammation, it always comes with the price. 10:49 Your muscles become very tight very tense. 10:52 And it restricts the blood circulating. 10:56 Leave you physically broke some tissue, 10:58 let's say ligament or muscle. 11:01 Or cartilage. 11:03 You know, they will be restricted blood supply to this area. 11:07 So you really need blood present 11:10 at this point so you can initiate healing. 11:13 So when you shine red and infrared light, you can do it on the go. 11:19 You make the energy, 11:20 but you also improve that circulation locally where you shine in the light. 11:25 And, besides that one more effect, 11:29 it's to produce a high quality of collagen 11:33 and you probably even thinking now. 11:35 Okay, cool it in. 11:36 I know that it makes my skin look wonderful, and that's true. 11:41 And, that is good, but collagen actually 11:44 needed everywhere in the body because, collagen, 11:49 you know, all your subcutaneous 11:51 tissue, connective tissue made out of quality. 11:54 And then when you want to heal your wounds, and you have this scar. 12:01 Also, collagen plays important roles because it makes this scar 12:06 the pliable, nice scar. 12:07 So you don't have that horrible scar. 12:11 So here you go already. 12:13 Three city benefit, three effects. Yes. 12:16 But, with, the skin benefits, that's mostly more red light. 12:22 Not in for light infrared, right? 12:25 Yes. Yes. 12:25 Because, the red light is typically absorbed at the surface of the skin. 12:31 And that's why when the red light, if you want 12:34 better skin, we don't need big infrared light. 12:37 Yes, because it just going to stimulate already collagen, which is superficial. 12:42 But if you have the inflammation inside the body at depth, 12:46 we need something stronger and but simply out of all these listed 12:51 wavelengths so different colors, infrared 12:54 light is the one which penetrates deep 12:58 so it can deliver energy to the tissue you want to regenerate. 13:02 Maybe it's a broken bone, maybe it's a torn muscle, 13:06 but you want to fix it at depth. 13:09 And for this you need infrared light. 13:12 And that's why they, 13:13 they pair so well together. 13:16 Yes. Exactly, exactly. 13:19 Also I know light has good property 13:24 to affect the inflammation, but not every light. 13:29 Again it's red and near-infrared light. 13:32 They specifically, affect 13:35 mitochondria and they specifically stimulate healing 13:39 and specifically reduces inflammation. 13:43 So I've seen it I've seen it in 13:46 clinical use when people come up with osteoarthritis. 13:50 And if I just put the plates beam 13:52 over the knee of the osteopath, it's 13:56 literally in ten, 20 minutes, you taking it off. 14:00 And then it's like, cool down inflammation gone. 14:04 Pain's gone. 14:05 You know, so many good benefits
How Red Light Therapy Works in the Body 14:08 from, from use of red light. 14:12 There really is. 14:13 Now what about mitochondrial health? 14:15 So we hear about how red light can really help with our mitochondrial health, 14:21 which is the powerhouse of our cells, which gives us energy. 14:25 How does it help my with the mitochondria? 14:28 You're absolutely right. 14:31 Mitochondria is literally a cornerstone of this. 14:34 It it's it's basically 14:37 making you energetic, number one, 14:40 because if every cells work in and then energize, 14:44 you feel generally energetic and, 14:48 I would say that, also very important to, to mention that, 14:53 our aging process is happening 14:56 because cells become really stuffed with a sort of bypass, 15:02 waste products like called reactive oxygen species. 15:05 And that drives the aging process of this cell at the cellular level. 15:10 So if you shine red light, what it does, it 15:13 creates inside the mitochondria, 15:16 melatonin, which clears this oxidative stress. 15:20 And this is recent studies demonstrate 15:23 that you can actually be energized 15:27 and rejuvenated from inside from the cellular level. 15:31 When you use red and particularly infrared light. 15:36 Yeah. 15:36 And that's that's what makes it so great. 15:38 You can you can do this at once too. 15:40 You can have them both at the same time. 15:43 Right. 15:43 And one certain device, this, 15:47 this, this year, unique wavelengths 15:50 also have impact on your melatonin production. 15:55 You probably know this, that, in the past, 16:00 people used to, particularly in biohacking community, 16:03 you sit and you watch red light, and that's 16:07 where you produce lots of melatonin, which helps you to sleep. 16:11 It regulates your circadian rhythm. 16:14 But, what we learned recently, you don't need to look at it. 16:19 You can just put it on the body and you still going to have impact on melatonin. 16:25 And then how many people not sleeping well and you know, 16:29 how can you function in the day if you have terrible sleep. 16:33 You can't I mean, I personally cannot I need a proper good sleep. 16:38 We all need sleep. Yeah. 16:39 And you're not sleeping. 16:40 Your immune system will be trash. 16:43 Exactly. Yes. 16:44 And again, what is a major contributor 16:48 to aging, to feeling, looking and looking older? 16:52 It's an inability to sleep when people have insomnia. 16:56 And, to be honest, I think, when people take, 17:00 drug therapy, it's not giving you the same restful sleep. 17:04 No, it's not you off. 17:06 And they it's not giving you, good restorative sleep, which we need. 17:11 Right. Same with alcohol. 17:12 A lot of people, they're like, I'm gonna have a nightcap. 17:14 It's like somewhere where a tracker, like an aura ring. 17:18 And see. 17:19 See what that does to your your deep sleep. 17:21 But trash is a 17:23 just because you're not awake doesn't mean you're getting good sleep. 17:26 So that's that's a really good point 17:30 from TCM point of view. 17:32 You know, every organ has activity, peak activity and trough activity. 17:38 So a liver peak activity is between 2 to 3 a.m.. 17:43 And this what we see, people have maybe knocked themselves out with alcohol. 17:48 But then three, 432, 3 a.m. 17:51 they wake up and then they go back to sleep 17:54 because they labor is overworking, overwork and trying to detox the body. So. 17:59 Absolutely. 18:01 And a lot of sad, sad livers. 18:06 And sluggish livers. 18:08 So many toxins. Yes. 18:11 So, yeah. 18:12 So, so many benefits of red light therapy. 18:15 So I, I benefited, with case 18:19 studies, flex beam, this particular device 18:23 to impact people, sleep, even people who, 18:28 you know, anxious, they can't fall asleep because the heart goes racing. 18:32 They feel anxiety. 18:34 So this kind of blood into it relaxes you, 18:38 but it also makes you hard to slow down and get rid of that anxiety. 18:43 And, it's all done without any side effects, because there is no it's light. 18:50 It's just focused light, concentrated light. 18:53 So there are no side effects to. 18:57 And that's amazing. 18:58 And that's one of the things that people would want to know, you know, 19:01 are there are there any side effects who who can use this. 19:05 Everyone. Right. 19:07 Yeah. 19:08 And that's why I think flexible is quite uniquely, 19:13 unique device in my view. Why? 19:15 Because it's not only you use it when you're injured 19:19 or you have some, you know, issues with health. 19:22 If you complete health healthy, but you want to maintain your optimal energy 19:28 like, like use it Preventatively you can just put it on the 19:32 on the body sit and watch movie and you just keep it like this and then 19:36 you will see, that over a period of time you just feel more energized. 19:41 You just feel more alive. 19:43 That lingering fatigue gone. 19:46 You feel like, okay, I'm up to doing things. 19:48 I'm up to go in full gym session or up to go for a run 19:53 because it's really difficult to get this yourself. 19:56 You know, first step to get out of the house and do some activity. 20:00 Yeah. Yeah. 20:01 No. Is there like so where should people be using the flex schemes specifically? 20:06 I, I usually use it personally 20:09 on my neck just to really loosen up those muscles. 20:12 I try to not keep my tension in my neck and my traps, but I do, 20:17 so I'll use it there. 20:18 My kids, if they have an injury, they will. 20:22 They will wear it once a day. 20:24 Is there a maximal like, can you overdo it? 20:28 You know, on a certain area? 20:31 Well, you technically, yes you can. 20:33 If you read science or photo bio modulation, they will tell you that is 20:37 there are slow or a biphasic 20:40 dose response, which is basically saying that 20:44 if you use too much, you gonna negate the effect from it. 20:48 Well, it's really depends. 20:51 To be honest, I personally have an observed this with, flex beam. 20:55 I think I have only one guy who emailed 20:58 me, some time ago, and he says, you know what? 21:01 It doesn't work. 21:03 And I said to him, how do you use it? 21:05 And he told me he uses four hours continuously for hours.
Mitochondria, Sleep, and Recovery Benefits 21:10 And then like, where did you get this? 21:12 This is in every instruction. 21:15 This is use three for placement. 21:17 They and people have been using it. 21:21 So my recommendation to use it, 21:25 where you 21:26 experience in problem like you said, it could be the neck 21:29 because we're all sitting in front of the computer all night. 21:32 It could be low back for most people because they're sitting not like you. 21:38 Walking and started walking. 21:40 Yeah, I just started walking during podcast. 21:42 I'm like, I got a good setup. 21:46 Very good idea. 21:47 I've got no standing up this as well, so. 21:51 And, and, or if you have the injury or if you have like osteoarthritis 21:56 or you have tennis elbow, just put it there where you feel something is wrong. 22:00 Yes. You put it there and it's going to do the job. 22:04 And then you need to use it once a day. 22:08 I give very simple instruction. 22:11 Use Monday to Friday, keep the weekend off. 22:14 Why is that? 22:15 It's not like I want people to use Monday to Friday. 22:18 It's just meaning like you use it, for example, for five days in a row 22:23 and then have a short break so you don't you break the 22:27 that feeling out sort of, capacity for energy. 22:31 And then you will be continuously to improve. 22:34 So but overall it sorry. 22:37 That's an interesting concept because we do that for hormones. 22:39 It's called a hormone holiday. 22:41 So we kind of reset the receptors for hormones. 22:44 So we do that. 22:45 It's not as we don't really do it with progesterone but or testosterone 22:50 but for estrogens or estradiol astral for hormone 22:53 replacement and postmenopausal women. 22:55 So we have this hormonal holiday where we take one day off a week. 23:00 Some people can do four days at once, but most like the ones one day a week. 23:05 So is that kind of the same thing? 23:07 You're resetting the receptors? 23:10 It it might be the case. 23:12 It might be resetting receptors. 23:14 I found it practically because I've been, you know, working with red 23:18 light therapy devices for decades, but with flex beam as well. 23:22 I studied inside out and I found this is a way, the best way. 23:27 So people continuously have result. 23:29 I think also our receptors will be with mitochondria. 23:35 So say would you 23:37 somebody is so very, very depleted, you know, people so fatigued. 23:41 Now there is some, some of them running into this, adrenal crisis. 23:45 And so, for them, they don't have enough mitochondria. 23:50 So to stimulate in too much is not going to be effective. 23:54 So small portions and short 23:57 exposures, longer break and sit in between will give you results. 24:01 But if you are, you know, healthy individual, very athletic, 24:05 you're doing stuff and you look enough to yourself, you can use it. 24:09 You can use, you know, for placement day, 24:13 every day, maybe two weeks and then make a break. 24:16 But in average, our recommendation is to use it, 24:20 for five days, for example, a couple of days off and so on. 24:25 Got it. 24:25 Yeah. 24:27 You know. 24:28 Yeah. 24:28 What's interesting about this device 24:32 is it has the three different settings. 24:35 Could you maybe explain that a little bit like what each setting is used for 24:39 because you're targeting different 24:43 issues with each setting. 24:47 That's true. 24:47 We designed it to be really suitable for a variety of scenarios. 24:52 So we have three programs. 24:54 They are designed to target therapy at different level of penetration. 24:59 So program one most superficial program two a little bit deeper. 25:04 Program three very deep. 25:06 So if you have program with skin 25:10 I can list anything like from 25:12 wounds from from scars from 25:17 let's say dermatitis, you know, like 25:21 or egg eczema, you know, even conditions 25:25 that bruises anything on the skin use program one. 25:29 Program one because they all energy will be assimilated within the skin area. 25:35 But if you feel like if you bruise is 25:38 deeper in the body, yes, you probably need program two 25:41 because it's a mixture of both red and the infrared light. 25:46 But that would be, more of like 25:49 muscle tissue, right? 25:51 Like, yes. 25:52 Also my joints like, like a, like a, like a little joints here, 25:59 for example. 26:00 Or you can use it on ligaments like Achilles tendon 26:04 and arguments, of the, until you can use it all around. 26:09 Then you can use program to it would be beneficial then. 26:13 So, program two has both red and the infrared. 26:17 And they love it because it kind of gives the it makes a broader application. 26:23 But also, there is a little secret because in program two, 26:27 we have, sweeping frequencies and the eyes will stop 26:32 in very specific frequencies, which we found beneficial for the body. 26:37 So it's kind of going to have this stimulating effect. 26:40 So cell will be waking up. 26:44 So in this case, in my view, 26:46 if somebody has some very chronic condition and you use program 26:50 three to have deeper penetration, but maybe time to time introduce the different 26:55 like chop chop chop chop stimulation, you know, different type of stimulation. 27:00 So mixing two and three is absolutely fine. 27:05 There is no set in stone application. 27:09 But what we found so for example, was 27:13 like ACL ligaments, 27:14 knee injury, a program two works well. Yes. 27:18 But if you want hip joint sciatica pain, 27:23 so the, the frozen shoulder, you need three. 27:27 You need really deep penetration.
Using FlexBeam Safely and Effectively 27:30 And that will give you program three, which is continuous near infrared 27:34 light and very, very powerful. 27:38 I love that because you just get variety with the one machine like I said, 27:42 I like this for my kids because I have a lovely infrared panel, 27:47 but my kids really won't just sit in front of it in my room. 27:51 They don't want to do that. 27:52 They want to sit on the couch or in their room. 27:54 So it's a great because it's portable and they can take it with me. 27:58 I just took it with me overnight on a trip and I use it in the car sometimes. 28:03 Got it? 28:03 You got it. 28:04 Get in the biohacking when you can, especially if you're you're running 28:08 around. 28:09 So what's your favorite way to use infrared and red light therapy? 28:15 I like to use it here on my chest. 28:18 Yeah. 28:18 Because it's like so comfy. 28:20 It's like holding the baby. 28:22 And I just see if I watch some film or whatever. 28:25 Interesting. I'll just do the YouTube. 28:27 And I also like using on the stomach, which, I'll get up. 28:31 So, it's over the stomach either, like this or like a gross, 28:36 these, these two obligations are really, really important because, 28:42 you know, to me, the stomach is your engine in the body. 28:47 It's, 28:48 you know, your gut microbiota, they they make things for you. 28:52 They make your own neurotransmitters. 28:54 They make your own hormones. It's all happening. 28:57 The immune system, all the. 29:00 It's everything there. 29:01 So, I read the research which talks 29:04 about microbiome being light sensitive. 29:08 It makes absolute sense to put it on the stomach and grow 29:12 good bacteria and energize your body. 29:16 Make your digestion system good, 29:20 because, you know, to be honest, in practice, 29:24 I see, I see lots, lots of patients and 29:29 I would say 85% of every person 29:32 who comes through the door will have digestive issues. 29:37 And so it's, 29:39 I don't know, is it either our lifestyle or the food we eat 29:43 or being stress something or maybe combination of everything. 29:47 So it makes us very vulnerable. 29:50 So gut application I love yeah, I love it. 29:54 And it's literally so flexible with how you can use it. 29:58 And if you're not using red light therapy, you probably should add it in. 30:02 Like I was saying before, it's just it's a lower cost 30:05 everyday thing that you can, you can use at your home. 30:10 And any concern for like EMF or anything with, 30:14 with using this, I mean, should anyone be concerned about anything when using it. 30:20 Yeah. 30:20 Would you do the with panels. 30:23 You do get this issue because then you plug them into this one. 30:28 You charge and it's typically last for, 30:32 I don't know, 7 or 8 applications on one charge. 30:35 I use it charged. 30:36 So there is zero like literally so little EMF completely. 30:42 And so, I, I like it because it's also on the body. 30:46 You can target data. 30:48 You can just wrap around, you know, your wrist, for example. 30:51 You wrap around this, it's it's quite effective. 30:55 And yes, compliance. 30:59 I mean, we will busy. 31:00 I cannot see it for half an hour or whatever. 31:03 More will stand in front of the panel, especially naked and wearing logos. 31:09 You don't need any of this. 31:10 You just stick it on the body 31:11 and you can play computer games, you can chat with your friends, and I, 31:16 I like you, I put it on my low back and I sit type in front of my computer. 31:22 So, lights when it escapes. 31:24 Like when you move it around and it escapes, it's fine. 31:28 It's absolutely no issue. 31:30 The only thing we tell people that, do not sit 31:34 and look at is because, you know, I told you by hackers, 31:38 they like looking at the light, but this is very strong light. 31:43 You should understand that. 31:44 They're, Why this device is so special is by its power. 31:49 It's so powerful. 31:51 If you can play with it. 31:52 This, panel, for example, 31:56 it's 2 to 3 times more powerful flex being grounded. 32:00 And it's all concentrated in one area and it's on the skin. 32:04 Imagine how much power is there. 32:06 So it is a stroke. 32:08 You need to protect your eyes. 32:10 If it's a case, if somehow you escape in for the whole duration of ten minutes, 32:15 and we also say don't 32:18 put it on the head because it's kind of, it's awkward. 32:21 Right? Just to twist, to use it on the head. 32:24 It's not designed for it. 32:25 And for using on the body. 32:28 Yeah. 32:29 But on the, on the head, 32:32 it's only because we don't know the dose. 32:36 What is safe dose for the brain. 32:39 And that's the only concern. 32:41 But there is no recorded or 32:45 with any issues with using flex beam. 32:49 We say you can use it over the dental issues over there. 32:54 TMJ if people have. Yes. 32:57 Yeah. 32:57 The program two, program two is a pulsed 33:01 and red means that it would be suitable even sinuses. 33:05 But you need to wear goggles. 33:06 On the and then the thyroid two. 33:10 We know red light therapy is really nice for the thyroid. 33:13 So I want to it is I think with thyroid, you can use direct stimulation. 33:19 But remember again it's really powerful device. 33:22 So five minutes would be maximum I would say because it's so close. 33:27 It literally behind the skin. 33:29 And you just, you know or you can stimulate to the back of the neck. 33:34 Yeah. 33:35 You know effective because you put on program three 33:39 and it gets and improves the blood flow to your thyroid gland. 33:44 And, and for thyroid gland, 33:47 they, they the issue often is the gut function. 33:52 So I invite inseparably to come in to use 33:56 stomach and maybe local applications. 33:59 Yeah. 34:00 Got to treat the root cause. Exactly. 34:03 Last thing, I want to just warn you, if you go through cautious 34:07 is, tattoos because lots of people now have tattoos. 34:11 And, from Physics of Light, lights will accumulate 34:16 on the surface of the skin if it's, black ink
Where to Use It and Safety Considerations 34:20 and it's not going to get through. 34:23 So too much light on the surface can create blistering. 34:27 So do not put on to to put it around. 34:30 It's somewhere. 34:32 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 34:34 You don't don't mess with that. 34:37 Those are really helpful tips. 34:39 I think everyone out there is probably just really excited 34:42 to get started and maybe try this out. 34:46 So how can everyone find you and your company? 34:49 I know I'll put a link in there. 34:51 I have a discount code for everyone out there. 34:54 Yes, yes, we have very good websites. 34:57 And, we've got a fantastic team. 35:00 I'm actually really enjoying working with my, colleagues 35:04 with small team, but, we will very capable. 35:07 And, our goal is to recharge people's health, which, basically, we want 35:14 people to be able to use this at home, and we want to look after our, customers. 35:20 Users. 35:20 That's why, if any question, any issues, you can always put it through the website 35:26 and you will definitely get somebody to get back to you very, very quick. 35:31 And we also recently launch, a platform on the circle, 35:36 on the circle platform, a forum 35:40 where people can come together 35:42 who love red light, therapy and, you know, interact with each other, 35:48 learn from each other and learn what can be done. 35:51 And that I am uploading lots of videos, protocols on this platform 35:57 so that people can just access and use it. So, 36:02 our company is called recharge Health 36:06 and quite. 36:08 Yeah. 36:09 And you are so passionate about red light and it is definitely life changing. 36:14 It's something that I know has made a difference in my life. 36:17 I started using it red light therapy about six years ago 36:21 and I haven't stopped and my kids use it, trying to get my husband to use it more. 36:26 But men are difficult sometimes, 36:28 so I just love your passion for the research behind this. 36:33 Thank you so much. 36:34 For me, it makes little sense because 36:37 after seeing this, in clinical practice, 36:41 seeing how people quickly respond and quickly recover, you know, in the end, 36:45 they say, you know what, why don't I why didn't I hear about this? 36:50 Why didn't I know about this? 36:52 I would have done it years before before coming to this very chronic stage. 36:56 So this drives my, passion because I want to help people personally, 37:01 but also team with really great and they all and, for people to get better. 37:08 Yes, absolutely. 37:09 Thank you so much for being here, doctor Frost. 37:12 We appreciate you so much. 37:14 Thank you so much, Doctor Jen, for inviting me. 37:17 And sharing with the knowledge about Flex Beam and Red light therapy. 37:22 Thank you. 37:23 Thank you for tuning in to Doctor Talks. 37:25 We hope today's episode has enlightened 37:27 and inspired you on your path to optimal health. 37:30 Each day is a new opportunity to make choices that empower your well-being. 37:34 For more insights and strategies, subscribe to our podcast 37:38 and visit our website WW di doctor Talksport.com. 37:43 Stay connected, stay healthy and join us next time on Doctor Talks. 37:48 Real talks from real doctors on the issues that matter to you most.
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