How PEMF Therapy Heals Type 2 Diabetes Damage

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Hi, I’m Dr. William Pawluk. Or Dr. Pawluk or Bill. I have people call me patients and call me Bill regularly as well. I worked at a place called McMaster University, and at one time everybody there was on a first-name basis, including the dean. It was amazing. Then I left McMaster, and then everybody went back to formal Dr. Pawluk all the time and that’s unusual. Well, I’m a former family physician, holistic family physician, and primary care physician. I did holistic medicine for about 15 years. I’ve been practicing medicine for, I hate to admit it, about 50 years. During that journey, I got frustrated, as good doctors do, with doctors who are constantly asking themselves, Can they do better or not? I used to call myself an unhappy doctor. I wasn’t happy until I could solve your problem. Instead of making referrals to other people who say, I can do better because I need to, I need to make sure that you get the right kinds of treatment rather than just getting a pill, an automatic pill because that’s the way things are done. a lot of the way I was working with a group of other doctors, and we had two patients almost die in a very short period from gastric bleeding at the cause. The common cause for those people was ibuprofen. Ibuprofen causes gastric irritation. If you take enough of it and take it over a long enough period, you run into the risk of gastric bleeding, and they almost die. that struck me and said, okay, I’ve got this. This is not. I’ve done this too many times. I’ve seen too many risks and problems. Let’s figure out a different way to treat pain than using medication, including opioids, surgery, or whatever.

I studied acupuncture, but that was in 1990 when acupuncture was largely unheard of in the US. Madonna had not had her movie yet with all those needles in her back. that opened the gates to acupuncture, with Madonna having needles on her back. But in 1990, they didn’t know what acupuncture was. So people would not do acupuncture if they knew what it could do to help them. They wouldn’t do it. I said, how else can I do this other than using acupuncture? What I found out is that you could use magnets. I started working with the magnets. It certainly stimulated the acupuncture points of the meridians. I discovered they were doing a lot of other things. They were doing a lot of healing work on tissue. Acupuncture doesn’t do that. If it does, it does it minimally. It’s just not that strong to do that. That’s not the purpose of acupuncture. Rebalance the body and the system, the yin and the yang, if you will. that started working with magnets, and it just grew from there exponentially. Eventually, I published a book called Magnetic Therapy In Eastern Europe, A Review Of 30 Years Of Research. I met an MD, PhD, from the Czech Republic who got his PhD in magnetic therapy. He had translated for his thesis and also for other government work. He translated a lot of Eastern European science on magnetic field therapy. It was not available in the West because it was written in a former foreign alphabet and was in obscure journals in Eastern European journals; you can’t see them in the West. The hit translated a lot of this, and we put that into the book. That’s the first book that blew my mind. But all the things magnetic therapy could do. At that point, it was 30 years later.

Now, it’s like 50 years later. Magnetic field therapy continues to be done in Europe. Now the literature on magnetic field therapy has grown exponentially. So as a result of that, I’ve collected a lot of this science on magnetics. I produced another book that was more of a lay book, and it was more universal. It wasn’t just restricted to Eastern Europe. That book was called Power Tools for Health. And in that book, I have about 500 references on all the different things that magnetic fields and magnetic therapy can do. I reviewed about 70 different health conditions with the science studies that were done to support those conditions. That’s where we are today. I produced a website called drpawluk.com, and that has a ton of content on it. But websites have their limitations, books have their limitations, and all media have their limitations. By waiting for all these to come together, you get a good sense of all the amazing things magnetic therapy can do.

Beverly Yates, ND

It is amazing. It’s such a potent therapy, a real tool. It just makes sense because, on one level, we humans are electromagnetic beings. Our spirit, our psyche, our mind, our physiologic interactions, and our pathological interactions. All of it is based on that healthy or not-healthy magnetic field, and being able to influence it makes total sense that this would be a healing therapy. with that in mind and knowing that we have an audience of colleagues of ours, health professionals, medical professionals, and experts, as well as the general public, who might not know about these things. What exactly is PEMF therapy?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

The critical question I related to that is a question that a lot of people will have. Let’s dispense with the elephant in the room right away. EMFs—yes, EMFs are bad for you. Well, PEMF, how can that be good for you if EMFs are bad for you? But there’s a huge difference between the two. First of all, EMFs are broadcast to the environment. Whether it’s radio waves, FM waves, radar, or microwaves, they’re just broadcast. A cell phone or microwave wave power broadcasts of the environment; a cell phone tower broadcasts of the environment. Those waves go out. They truly are waves. They go on forever. PEMF is created. Magnetic fields that we use for therapy are created by current flowing through a wire. I use my thumb as an example. Let’s imagine my thumb is the wire with the current flowing through it. As the Y as a current pulse through, every time it pulses, a magnetic field is created that’s perpendicular to the flow of the electrons in the wire. That’s the magnetic field. It’s perpendicular. It happens. The laws of physics happen all the time. What’s that called? That’s called a closed loop. The current is closing. It comes back on itself, opens, comes back up, and comes back out. Microwaves are open. They just keep going into the environment. The difference between microwaves and the amount is that microwaves have an extremely low frequency. That’s what the purpose of a microwave oven is. Extremely low frequency means it’s heating the tissue; it’s going to heat the tissue; it’s going to heat whatever it is. It can be plants, never mind tissue, heat, or water. It’s going to heat something whenever it hits, and it’s going to be absorbed by the heat after heat. This has been a big problem in physics because physicists have had years and years of arguments about it. There’s no thermal effect that has no effect.

Beverly Yates, ND

The MIT electrical engineering student is loving this conversation. Please continue.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Magnetic field therapy works. As I mentioned, there’s lots of research now about the fact that PEMFs: A. are safe and B. are effective. They’re effective for what? We have to figure that out. You may have to design the magnetic field and so on for the purpose that you’re using it for fortunately, magnetic therapy, just because of the very nature of how it works. It works on so many things. In the Power Tools for Health book, I outlined 25 different physiologic actions of magnetic fields. that’s just scratching the surface. Some of those actions include things like improving circulation, and heart for diabetes, decreasing inflammation, important diabetes, tissue regeneration and healing, important to diabetes, helping the pancreas to function better, partner diabetes, helping the tissues and cells of the body be able to process sugar better, and having insulin be able to do its job in the tissues better. All of these different actions that Americans have to go through—all 25 of them—if you want to read about them again, I would recommend you get the Power Tools for Health book. A lot of that is on our drpawluk.com website. But it’s harder reading their blogs. That means there is a lot more information on the blog than you want. If you want a one-paragraph explanation, the blogs are going to give you a lot more than that.

Beverly Yates, ND

Can you help us uncover this a little bit more and have more clarity around specifically why PEMFs heal and the EMF’s harm? You’ve already told us that the EMFs harm people because of the heating, the damage, and the fact that it’s just not the appropriate use of that energy. 

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

You’re correct. It was not designed for that. It was designed for communication. The side effect is that it harms tissue biology. 

Beverly Yates, ND

That’s a great way to say that. I think the public gets lost at this point. Please say that part again.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

It’s an unintended consequence. It’s for communication. It’s not designed for therapy, but there are high-intensity, high-frequency magnetic fields that are designed for therapy, but they’re usually designed to destroy it. If you get to work, you burn a ward off, you get a lesion of some kind, you burn it off, you have a nerve that’s being trapped by a disc or arthritis in the spine, and you can’t fix it. What do you do? You burn the nerve, so you don’t feel the pain. it’s destructive. PEMFs are, for the most part, the way we’re talking about PEMF. They’re not used in that destructive fashion. They’re used constructively.

Beverly Yates, ND

They’re enabling the body to be able to heal and restore normal function. Is that what you’re saying here?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Yes. How does that happen? The way it happens is based on Faraday’s law. Faraday’s law says that a pulsating magnetic field induces charge when it meets other charge carriers. Faraday in the 1800s discovered that when you pulse a magnet across a wire, you’ll initiate current in the wire. If you attach a light bulb to that circuit and stimulate it with a magnetic field—not with juice coming from the wall, just with a magnetic field—the light goes on. That’s Faraday’s law. Well, the same thing happens in the body, in a sense the light goes on. We know that one of the basic aspects of electromagnetism is photons. At PEMFs stimulate the production of photons. but that’s neither here nor there. One of the things that magnetic fields do is that as they pass through the tissues, they’re like the wind and the trees. You don’t know the wind is there until you see the leaves moving. The air is around us all the time, but the air in motion causes actions and reactions. As the magnetic field passes into the tissues, it’s interacting. Faraday’s law is interacting with all the charge carriers in the body. What’s not a charge carrier in the body? do all the electrolytes in the body. The solution, the basic water solution of the body, is not water. It’s a battery of all kinds of electrolytes. It’s a soup of electrolytes. Because it’s a soup of electrolytes, magnetic fields passing through that electrolyte soup all of a sudden start to produce charge. Yep. Where they produce a charge, what does the body do with that charge? I need it. I’m going to take it. I’m going to use it now. I can heal this now. I can improve circulation. Now I can get my nerves to work better. I can get the brain to work better. Again, that long list of things that magnetic fields do is all because of the charge production in the body that gets us into an argument. The argument is frequency versus intensity.

Beverly Yates, ND

That’s a great distinction. Let’s dig in here.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Faraday didn’t care about frequency. It was all about the charge. That is all about intensity. If you bury the intensity, if you pulse the magnetic field and you have a very weak pulse, it’s going to produce a very small amount of charge. If you want to reach deep into the body, you have to take account of another law. There are many laws surrounding this. But the other law is that the magnetic fields drop off very rapidly in intensity as you move away from the source. It’s logarithmic. The law that I use is called the Inverse Square Law. In medicine, we use that law to calculate the radiation dose. If you’re going to deliver radiation into the body, heaven forbid. But if you have to, you have to calculate the dose because, from here to here, the dose drops dramatically, the same drop in dose as happens with the magnetic field. That means if I’m going to treat a brain, I’m going to aim a beam on this side of the brain. I have to calculate the dose that I need on the other side of the brain. The same thing applies to a muscle, a lung, a heart, a liver, or whatever. You have to understand the dose that you’re delivering into the body, and you have to make an appropriate adjustment in your intensity to deliver that dose. A good example of that is inflammation. Research has shown that magnetic fields stimulate adenosine receptors, so adenosine is a molecule in the body that makes ATP, Adenosine Triphosphate, but it’s not just making ATP. Their density receptors sit on cells for a lot of other reasons, and the adenosine receptor on the white blood cell helps the body fight inflammation. The optimal magnetic field intensity at the adenosine receptor to improve inflammation is 15 Gauss, GAUSS. That’s the measure of a magnetic field’s intensity. It’s also measured by something called Tesla or Milli Tesla, but we use Gauss most of the time. So, you need 15 Gauss at the target tissue to decrease inflammation. Again, if I’m trying to aim the magnetic field at one side of the head on the other side, I’ve got to calculate the dose to deliver it on the other side six inches away, which is typically going to be about 4000 Gauss. 4000 Gauss on one side of the brain to deliver, and 15 Gauss to the other side. You can do the same calculation across the shoulder, the belly, and to heal kidney or liver problems. If you’re diabetic with kidney disease and you start magnetic therapy, you’ll start to heal that kidney because you’re going to improve the circulation and the blood vessel nerves, and everything is happening in that kidney, reducing the inflammation. You have them at the right dose.

Beverly Yates, ND

That’s a great description. Thank you for being so clear about it. The whole idea of a right dose and being targeted and specific in the effect you’re trying to have makes that even more tangible because sometimes people don’t understand all these nuances and get lost. They’ve either had a preconceived notion that there’s nothing about electromagnetic fields that could ever be helpful, or they think any field could be helpful. Neither is true. You have to know what the significance is here. You mentioned, just for a second, if we could go back, to adenosine and adenosine receptors, and I was thinking about the role of inflammation for people who have sleep problems. There are a lot of diabetics who struggle with their sleep. I’m wondering about the pressure that builds up through the day in a healthy person with adenosine, meaning that it makes it much easier at night, typically for them to go to sleep. When people have sleep disruptions, they’ve got inflammation, and they’ve got adenosine. Since you brought it up, would you share your thoughts about that? Then we’ll continue back to PEMFs.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

There are a lot of different causes of sleep problems. it could be it could be hypoglycemia. If you’re hypoglycemic, what are you doing? You’re producing a lot of adrenaline to try to get your sugar back up. That is too low. You’re hypoglycemic, so you want to raise it so you can produce adrenaline. What does adrenaline do to sleep? What happens if you run a mile and come back home? You want to go to sleep when you can’t go to sleep because you’re revved up. That’s adrenaline. That’s one aspect of it. Circulation issues are becoming a problem with diabetics, and the brain is very much affected by diabetes by circulation problems, just as circulation problems elsewhere in the body are. Magnetic field therapy, by decreasing inflammation, makes the brain quieter, the brain irritable, and the nerves in the brain irritable. When they’re inflamed. That’s why if you have a burn and you touch the burn with your finger, it’ll hurt because it’s inflamed. Well, that’s the nerves in the skin that are telling you this. This is an inflamed area, and they’re hyper-excited. Well, again, think of it at a tissue level inside the body. The same things happen inside the body, too.

Beverly Yates, ND

It makes total sense. People can think about what pertains to them. If they are the person who has diabetes or pre-diabetes, Maybe they’ve seen this in family and friends. If you are a clinician and you’re working in a clinical practice setting, you can maybe better understand what’s going on for the people that you serve. Then, when we’re thinking about PEMFs, how do they help prevent and treat diabetes? Because for people to be clear about the vascular changes, the changes in blood flow and perfusion, all that stuff. How specifically do PEMFs help to prevent and treat diabetes?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Diabetes is for those who are in the know, obviously, and everybody who is going to be listening to this summit is going to become in the know. Diabetes is a spectrum. We used to call diabetes hemoglobin A1C above eight, 8.5, nine, or ten. That was diabetes. The way diabetes was diagnosed in the past was that doctors would taste the urine. If it’s sweet, you’re diabetic. That means that the urine is spilling in the kidneys, out through the kidneys, out into the urine, and then you could taste it. Say you’re diabetic. Well, we have gotten more sophisticated since then. Now we say, while we’re doing a blood test, would he go by the blood test? The blood sugar is too high. if it’s, say, over two hours after a meal, if it’s over 120 and is too high. Over time, we developed another test that we call hemoglobin A1C, which shows you the average blood sugar levels over three months. That’s too high. Well, today we are discovering that somebody who’s pre-diabetic talks about a range or a spectrum. If you’re diabetic, you have hemoglobin A1C now, which is considered diabetic, or the threshold in medicine is seven. But that’s what doctors do because, remember, they came from eight to 10 or 12, and now seven seems low for many diabetics because they’re running nines and 10, and 12; the routine basis was seven. That is great. But what we’re discovering is that people who are not yet seven are still developing neuropathies. They had been so-called pre-diabetic for years, and pre-diabetes led to neuropathy, that’s why the new term now has become quite pre-diabetes, so it’s pre- and hemoglobin A1C of seven, and all the natural consequences of the risk of ketoacidosis and so on. But it turns out that pre-diabetes is a misnomer; it’s a fallacy. It’s wrong to call it pre-diabetes. It’s not pre-diabetes; it’s diabetes. It’s mild diabetes.

Beverly Yates, ND

That pre-lulls people often into a sense of, I’m okay. It’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion. It is irresponsible. I agree. these things, you can see you.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

I can see the wreck happening or coming right. You can see it coming right now. Pre-diabetes is something you can see coming. I treat pre-diabetes, a diabetes.

Beverly Yates, ND

Fair enough. That’s a protective, great way to go about it, because who wants to have all the nasty consequences? They have uncorrected blood sugar issues. That glycemic control matters. It seems to me that these PEMFs are great to help prevent and also treat issues of diabetes, including people along the spectrum. Whether they’ve been told it’s prediabetes now, which is 5.7 to 6.4 for A1C, or with Type 2 diabetes, formally diagnosed by most labs, is like 6.5 or higher for that A1C. But I agree with you about your thoughts that it is a spectrum response, and some of the biggest damage is done to pre-diabetes.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Longer period. Because it’s solid. It’s been happening for a long period. Over time, those effects accumulate. Even again, they are pre-diabetes.

Beverly Yates, ND

I’ve seen this also lead to dementia and Alzheimer’s. People will say, well, that person was pre-diabetic. They didn’t have Type 2 diabetes, as if somehow that was protective. It’s like I just realized people do not understand the real threat of all this.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

I don’t. If pre-diabetes can cause neuropathy, what can it do to the brain? What can it do to the heart? What can they do to a wound or a scratch? What does it do to the immune system? All of these are still all these problems are still there. They’re just much milder. because they’re milder, we don’t realize why. I’m surprised today at how few doctors, especially medical doctors, routinely do A1C. They’re not routine in medical practice. Is cholesterol a bigger problem than pre-diabetes?

Beverly Yates, ND

Not in my opinion.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

But in my opinion, there’s a lot more damage being caused by pre-diabetes. Go back to your question. How to help. PEMFs help across the entire spectrum of diabetes. If you are using magnetic field therapy regularly, it’s helping your liver function better. It’s helping your pancreas to function better; it’s helping your tissues’ immune systems to be healthier. If you’re improving circulation in the tissues at the deepest levels of the body, you’re avoiding some of the consequences of glycation damage to those tissues. If you have any glycation products, a glycation product is a result of glucose metabolism; it’s what’s left over, and those glycations are called AGEs, or Advanced Glycation End Products. If those glycation products are deposited in the tissues they lock on, they don’t let go, and they’re an irritant, and as a result, they cause inflammation so that they inflame the nerves, the blood vessels, and the connective tissue. the muscles, and everything at the end of the brain as well. PEMFs help to de-link the inflammation caused by the AGEs are Advanced Glycation End Products. You don’t get rid of the AGEs. I have not seen any science that says magnetic field therapy washes those out of the body. I wish we could show that. Maybe that will. That would become evident. It may be that as you decrease the inflammation, AGEs let go of the tissue so you can help the tissue decrease inflammation. The sooner you start trying to prevent diabetes, if you’re trying to control your blood sugar, you’ll be able to see a 5.7. That’s not adequate. What’s a good A1C?

Beverly Yates, ND

I’d say at least 5.4 or lower.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

5.2. I normally would aim for something like 5.25, which is okay, but at five, you start to run into the risk of being hypoglycemic.

Beverly Yates, ND

It’s a fine balance, isn’t it? It is.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

5.2. I’m good with that. It’s very uncommon in my practice for people to have a 5.2.

Beverly Yates, ND

It’s gotten a lot harder over the years. I’m 30 years into practice, and I’ll tell you, it’s such a challenge now compared to when I started. I’m worried for human health. It’s not good right now.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

It’s not good. Again, if we use magnetic therapy along the entire spectrum, we’re helping the body to resolve the damage being caused by chronic inflammation. That’s the key to reducing chronic inflammation, so you can repair damaged nerves if you catch them early enough. I tell people that magnetic field therapy does not raise the dead. Magnetic therapy can help the living but not the dead. Let me give you a little story about the living dead. I had a colleague or somebody that I knew would own apartment buildings. If you had an office manager or apartment building manager who smoked, drank, and was overweight, He brought his employee to see me. He brought him to see me. Because you’ve got to help this guy. What’s the problem? Hold up his legs. His legs were black. Purple-black from the knees down. Gangrene down. What was brought up to me was that he’d already seen a surgeon. That surgeon says off of your legs. They were going to do bilateral, benign blows and knee amputations on this guy’s legs, I said, and I touched his legs. I tried to look for capillary fill to see if there was circulation.

Beverly Yates, ND

It’s done.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

I will say I said, I don’t want to touch this. He’s going to he’s going to get septic. There’s an infection in those legs, and the infection goes systemic. They’re going to knock out his kidneys. He’s going to die on my watch while I’m trying to do something impossible to do. Well, I said, got him to change his diet, got him to stop drinking, and got him to stop smoking. Well, I asked him to. I told you, this is what you have to do. If you want to lose your legs, fine. Go ahead.

Beverly Yates, ND

Now, you had his attention.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

I said this was urgent. I don’t want to take you on as a patient because you’re going to die on my watch. I don’t want that to happen. Anyway, they insisted, so I said, I’m going to see you in a week. We started him on magnetic therapy right away, magnetic field therapy, and the dietary and nutrition changes, and he did it. God bless. He did it. Came back in a week. Touch the skin; a little bit of pink is coming in.

Beverly Yates, ND

Your little capillary feels right.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

I am beginning to get some capillary fill. I’ve kept following him weekly, and it’s a very slow process, and he persisted over that whole period with the magnetic field therapy and the nutrition. Three months later, he went back to the vascular surgeon, and he said, I guess we don’t have to amputate. But he didn’t ask what he was doing.

Beverly Yates, ND

Isn’t that crazy? I hear this all the time from people. Why wouldn’t you ask what worked?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Because it’s not what they do. As surgeons cut, that’s what they do. medical doctors and people like ourselves who work with functional medicine, we know what we can accomplish with functional medicine if we have enough time. If you’re on the edge of a cliff in a gale, you don’t have to worry about why you got on the cliff in the first place. Just get out. Get off the edge.

Beverly Yates, ND

Exactly where the wind blows you right over.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

I got him off the edge, but we still have to work with him for the rest of his life to get everything restored to normal health. He didn’t need surgery anymore. He is no longer gangrenous because he at least had a point of urgency.

Beverly Yates, ND

Bill, I want you to repeat that part. He has to do it; he has to take care of himself. For how long now? The next week. Month. What did you say about the rest of his life up there?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

I say the rest of his life. You did? We could even probably talk about his next life.

Beverly Yates, ND

Do people get this magical thinking when they get out of an incredible jam like that? This man’s about to lose both legs below the knee, and you’re able to help him reverse this, get into remission, and get to a much healthier place. Sometimes in that situation, people will think, I’m fine, and then they will go back to everything that was going on before. Then, when the problem comes back, they’re like, Well, it failed when they never took charge of it for the rest of their lives. I just want to make sure everybody understands. No magical thinking. People were doctor pilots talking about any of our experts. You have to get on that healthy track and stay there.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

It’s not just diabetes you’re dealing with. You’re dealing with aging. You’re dealing with the general health issues that cause arthritis. They cause soft-tissue problems. They lead to autoimmune issues. All of these have lots of consequences. Let me give you another story about the medicine we use. Bypass grafts: Your blood vessels in your heart are blocked. You have chronic angina, and you’re about to have a heart attack. You’re going to lose muscle mass. You lose your heart muscle. What do we do? We do bypass grafts. Research shows that people who have bypass grafting die sicker. Why? Why would they die sicker? Well, you just cause this benefit to their hearts. They didn’t change what they did to get there in the first place. So you got a graft. It’s. It’s getting you off the edge of the cliff. It’s not getting you off the cliff; what they do is continue their behavior, and those blood vessels reblock, and now their kidneys block or block, and their legs block. So they die sicker because the whole process is continuing, cascading, and building even more rapidly. again, it’s a life this is a lifetime commitment. It’s a lifetime of health, not disease management. It’s not for removing disease; it’s for getting well and staying well.

Beverly Yates, ND

It’s health care—caring for health, not disease management. I love it. That’s a great summary. What PEMF devices are optimal for the changes that people want to see in the body related to diabetes?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

We’ve already mentioned 15 Gauss. If you’re doing 15 Gauss to the skin, that’s great. If you’re doing 15 Gauss to the brain, duh, it’s got to be 15 Gauss across the whole brain. Or the whole heart, or the whole lung, or the whole legs, or the whole vascular system. You need a strong enough magnetic field. Then what are the biggest mistakes that people make with chemotherapy? Number one is that they get wrapped up by a salesperson who’s giving them all these stories about how great people feel. They don’t tell them what the intensity of the magnetic field is, and the people don’t know to ask. That’s why we’re going to teach you. You’ve got to ask, What is the intensity? This magnetic field and the distributors who sell these things, usually through multilevel marketing companies, don’t know either. They have not been told because they don’t want people to talk about that. What happens is that they start talking about frequencies and go back to frequencies versus intensity. They start talking about frequency because they can’t talk about intensity. After all, there’s no intensity there. They’re just confusing the situation by talking about frequencies. Frequency can make a difference. But if you need intensity, there are very few machines that can have a variation in frequency while maintaining intensity. But from an engineering perspective, it’s very hard to do and very expensive to be able to adjust the intensity or the frequency. The higher the frequency, the faster the machine has a pulse, and that means it has time to recharge with every pulse. I just like old-fashioned flash cameras. It flashes, and then you hear this whining, and then the battery recharges and flashes again. Same thing with magnetic therapy. They have to recharge between flashes, between pulses, and again to be able to create a rapid heart with a rapid pulse rate of 100, say, pulses per second or 100 hertz. You have to have a machine that can produce the power that you need at that frequency. Faraday discovered that it’s about intensity, not frequency. The people who say machines that don’t talk about intensity can’t produce the intensity, so they can’t do that.

Beverly Yates, ND

The therapeutic benefit then is not going to be there because it’s not designed to deliver that.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

It’s not designed to deliver that. What I found is that they do, and I used to work with these low-intensity machines in the past at work for years because that was what was available. What I discovered is that people don’t get better. Most of the time, what they’re doing is treating the body very superficially because they’re only one gauge or less, or if you need 50, the skin is not going to help you that way, that much. Most of the benefits that people feel from them, well, first of all, come from having spent $6,000. If you spent $6,000, you’re going to believe that was working. There’s a certain amount of relief involved in this as well. You ignore it; you just put that aside. But what you’re doing is just stimulating the acupressure points of the meridians, which is okay for wellness purposes. That’s fine. But I would argue that even for wellness, One Gauss is not fine. You just invested $5,000 or $6,000 for one gauss. You have to ask for the intensity. I don’t care about the frequencies. The only time I care about the frequencies is when I’m treating the brain primarily for things like waking the brain up, putting the brain to sleep, or making you more relaxed. When I’m doing brain stimulation, frequency becomes important because the brain has frequencies in it, but the rest of the time, for the rest of the body, most of the time it’s the intensity that matters.

Beverly Yates, ND

These are important distinctions. Thank you for walking us through it and being clear about what matters and what people need to watch out for so that if they were going to make use of this therapy or if they’re going to provide it to someone, they know what they’re doing and why. I just think it’s important. Thank you.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

In the beginning, one of the biggest mistakes people make is buying based on price. The purpose of our discussion today and this presentation is to teach people about getting the right equipment. Don’t you think about the cost if you’re about to lose your legs? You better not think that all I want to spend is $100. You’re not going to get much for $100 in the doctor’s office. I could tell you right now that the machines that are often used in doctor’s offices cost $35,000. Now, you don’t have to spend that much to have a good magnetic system, but you may have to spend more than $5,000 to get a good magnetic system. We offer consultations at drpawluk.com. People who are willing to make the changes, need to make, not only in their health but also in the equipment to get the right equipment for them.

Beverly Yates, ND

All of this makes sense. along with the idea that they have to be on board for caring for themselves for the rest of their lives, whatever will be helpful and will produce healing for that individual. It’s a lifetime commitment. It’s not like an oil change. You don’t just roll out, get your oil changed, and then roll back out. This is a lifetime commitment. cool.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

It’s building a house and maintaining a house over the rest of its life.

Beverly Yates, ND

I love that. great. What a wonderful time talking with you here! I so appreciate the work that you do, your point of view, and your clinical experience. You’ve honed in on something super effective and also asked yourself that wonderful question: How can I do my job even better? Starting with your roots in family practice, seeing people come in with any variety of maladies, and looking over time, saying, What can I, as a health professional, do better? Then measuring results and then continuing to ask the questions, be open and curious, and have that, put the customer first, put the patient first mindset. I appreciate you in your career. I just want to be able to record saying thank you for that, because sometimes when people are outside of the domain of their original training, they’re taking a risk to do it. But when you get such great results, this is when it all comes together. 

Friends, anyone watching these sessions, please, if you see or hear information that is of value to others in your lives, kindly share this summit while it is still up and available because we are trying to make sure people are well informed and know that there are resources available to them. This diabetes problem has become a worldwide issue. It is its pandemic. We want to make a difference and help as many people as we possibly can. Dr. Pawluk, any closing thoughts as we wrap up here?

William Pawluk, MD, MSc

Yes, again, we talk about a spectrum. Now, if you’ve got the wherewithal and the resources and understand the problem, you need to get magnetic field therapy going for your whole body as early as possible. Never mind whether you have diabetes or not. All of us can use magnetic field therapy because it amplifies anything we’re doing. But if you’re diabetic, you already have some kidney issues; you already have some heart issues; you already have some vascular issues; and you already have some brain issues. You better get yourself on the right magnetic system, early. You don’t want to be like that gentleman with the legs. Get to a point where you’re now having to have amputations. You don’t want to be the living dead. You want to be pre-living dead, preferably healthy, and you want to stay healthier. Getting the right equipment as soon as possible is important.

Beverly Yates, ND

It makes sense. We want to be fully alive, healthy, and thriving, and we want to maintain our independence for as long as possible. We just need to do the pieces along the way that make the difference, get those results as quickly as possible, and then sustain this amazing human frame. Thank you so much for your time and energy here today.