Pets Have Energy Bodies Too

Introduction to Dr. Marilyn Siegel 0:00

Welcome back to the previous Auto Immune Disease Summit series. Everyone. This is version 5.0. Healing the energy body. And I'm really excited about this. Talk about our fur babies having energy bodies to I'm delighted to introduce you if you don't already know her, to Doctor Marilyn Siegel. After being told by equine veterinarians that there were no options to heal heal her horse, she vowed to prove them wrong and find the answers where none had prior existed. This determination extended into her small animal practice in Florida and the last 20 years of Doctor Siegel.

Nearly 40 year career as a veterinarian has led her to develop the widest array of alternative therapies and detoxification services for fur babies in the country. She's a true entrepreneur determined to solve needs that the pet world has, and this led her to be an international speaker and innovator in integrative veterinary medicine. And she's developed her own raw pet food company in supplements called Evo Love RomCom Knowing knowledge is Power. She has online programs for pet parents and veterinarians to teach integrative and veterinarian medicine.

Welcome to this series. Thank you. I know that was a mouthful. Thank you for including our fur babies. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we talked on the phone and I have I have three currently, you know, and so they appreciate along with me all of the work you're doing in the world on behalf of their health. So I'm I'm really delighted to have you here. Thank you. So one of the things that we talked about is how, pet parent health will affect the pet in the household. How does that happen? Well, you know, we're energy beings and our pets are energy beings, so we're all just energy.

And there's a physics principle. It's not even woowoo that when energies come together, they affect each other. There's a little game I think I remember Newton, I think did it.

How Pets and Owners Share Energy 2:25

And there's these five balls that hang down. And when you hit one, it impacts all of them. And then within a matter of seconds, they're all moving in the same rhythm, even though they plugged into each other in the initial stages. And then if it wasn't for air having friction, they would keep going forever. But they sync up with each other, so they actually share their different energies until they're all paired together. And we see this happening in everyday life. We have girls that are living in a dorm, and they'll all end up getting their periods pretty close together.

We've seen it where you go to a really good lecture or a motivational speaker. We've been listening to Tony Robbins all day. So you you feel that energy of that individual and you entrain. That's what it's called entrainment. And you entrained that energy. Well, we do that with our pets. Now personally, I think that they help us more than we help them, because when we have that really challenging day, you're stressed out, you're upset. You may be crying. Maybe there's a disaster going on in your life perceived.

And who comes over and gives you that unconditional love. They either sit on your lap or they put their head underneath your hand. And then as you just without even thinking, you start petting them or touching them. And within a few minutes, even without being aware of it, you start to feel better. Maybe you smile a little bit. Maybe it's not as heavy of a burden. So I really think that in one aspect, these animals are here to make the fifth dimension that we chose to enjoy, to make it a little bit lighter and a little bit easier.

And it's not just the fur world. We can do it when we go outside. I'm a tree hugger and I love it, so I'll own it and I'll go outside and I'll touch my plants and I'll talk to them, and I'll hug trees and I'll just be out in nature. And just that experience helps me to become lighter and more open. So they do play a tremendous role, but I don't want people to feel like, oh, if my animal has cancer, I gave them that cancer. No, it's not about the blame and shame game. This is really about how do we get through some of the challenging times so that we can really go into thriving and be the highest version of ourselves and our pets.

Help us to do that one by and train men and helping to take the heaviness away. And then too, by modeling for us. What is it like to be present? What is it like to be unconditional? And that's what they do. And they do it very well, and we just have to watch them and model that behavior to get it, you know, as a medical provider for humans, autoimmunity has been on the rise for several years. And you mentioned that you're seeing it also in the pet community. Absolutely. In fact, I just wrote an article on adrenal fatigue in pets.

Now adrenal fatigue is becoming a my cat was about to jump in my lap, so I, moved. But adrenal fatigue is a really big topic now on the human side where we're starting to recognize that the adrenal pituitary hypothalamic acts as this mechanism that we have for dealing with stress. We are really overtaxing. It. And with animals, it hasn't even been recognized. And as I was doing the research to write my article, I thought, isn't that interesting? Because one of the side signs of early adrenal fatigue is a picky appetite.

Well, I must see 50% of my patients in the early stages of their disease having a picky appetite. Owners will say, oh, they've always just been a fussy eater and they just won't eat that. And when you think about it, that is really abnormal behavior for an animal. Because in the wild, if you pass up a meal when it's available, you may not get another opportunity. So it's really important that animals should eat voraciously. And when they don't, that's our first indicator of disease. And then the second one for adrenal fatigue is itching.

And we have so many pets with skin disease and allergies. And what do veterinarians typically do? They give them steroids or other immune suppressive agents instead of fixing the root cause of the problem. And then they actually make that adrenal fatigue worse. And then if I make a one more, we were just talking about how animals are trained to people and we share that energy. Well, think of the sad day that we live in, in at least America, and I'm sure it's worldwide now. So the sad days where we as humans, we wake up by the alarm clock because you're still exhaust it and the alarm clock wakes you up, and then you're stressed out getting to work or getting the kids to school, and you don't eat a healthy breakfast and you have a lot of carbs and sugar, and then it's rush off to work and deal with all the stress of work and bosses.

Or if it was Covid, being stuck at home with everybody, whatever that looked like. And then it was lunch eating the sad standard American Day meal, and then the after school activities, your after work activities, opening the mail, saying your credit card bills, staying up late at night, trying to get your work caught up and then you're sleep deprived and you get to start it all over the next day. So here we are, having this constant state of high sympathetic tone, and we're in training that to our pets.

So they're feeling all of that stress and anxiety and run from the danger. But they don't know where it's coming from. They're just in training to that energy. So those are just at least three mechanisms that we can attribute to our animals. Picking up and and training to the energies that we're giving off. And then we really want to make it worse than if you're feeding them processed foods and tap water. And your environment has mold and that toxic pick up and a hormone mimicking compounds, the estrogen mimicking compounds from, you know, formaldehyde in fire retardant and petroleum based cleaning products and all this other stuff.

Oh my gosh, no wonder our pets are suffering from so much dis ease. Let's talk about the difference between disease and disease. Thank you for picking that up. So I really don't believe that we have disease. It's a word that we've made up in America. But when we look at Chinese medicine and, I know you're very good in the, eastern arts, then we're what we're really recognizing

Adrenal Fatigue and Early Warning Signs 9:13

is when we see a symptom, it's the body not being in balance. So when you separate dis and ease, then you're really saying that the body just as an imbalance anymore. And it's that first light that comes on the car. Right. And it says look, there's a problem under the hood. Now, I'm old enough to remember when that light actually told you what the problem was. But now a days it comes on and it says check engine light. And then you have to take it in. And they run through a series of tests to tell you what's wrong with the engine.

Either way, we don't go underneath the hood and pull the fuze so that the light goes away and then go, oh, look, the problem is all better because you took the symptom away. But that's what we do in human medicine, and that's what we do in veterinary medicine. As a general rule, we're disconnecting the symptom as a mechanism of information. And then the information has to come back again because you missed the sign. And so now it comes back as either a relapse or it comes back as a deeper, worse disease.

Exactly. For humans it was the same model. Only the animals have a shorter lifespan to be able to see it in. So it's kind of magnified, you know, the things that we would normally see in a human that takes ten years. We're seeing it in animals as early as two and three years of age. In fact, the cancer rates right now for dogs are the highest of any mammal on the planet. And it was I was I looked it up and it was 1.165. So it's almost 100% one out of, you know, almost 100% of dogs getting cancer.

And yet we're not stopping and going. We didn't see cancer like this 20 years ago, 30 years ago. I'm in practice almost 40 years. And when I graduated, we saw cancer once or twice a year. It was so rare that I never even bothered learning really, how to deal with cancer, because it wasn't something that I was going to see very often. So I focus on the things I saw on a daily basis. And then about 20 years ago, 2025, we started seeing a shift, and I noticed that we were getting more and more chronic degenerative diseases.

Even the way arthritis shows up in the animal changed. We used to see big dogs would get arthritis in their hips. We called it hip dysplasia. Now, I rarely see hip dysplasia in large dogs, but I see arthritis along the spine. Almost every case. It's crazy. So we're seeing this rapid change over the past 20 years, which is 100% coinciding with the level of toxicity that has increased in our in our general world. It's in our air, it's in our water, it's in our environments. And we're just mindless as a society allowing this to happen.

And our animals are like the canary in the mine field. They're just there's no, barrier between their skin. So they're laying on our clothes and on our sheets, and if they're washed and xeno estrogens, then they're absorbing all that endocrine disrupting material. And then if they're walking around on the floor and they're laying on it, and you cleaned with these petroleum based cleaners and the Wi-Fi in the house, all of these toxins that we may be able to leave the house and get some fresh air.

I'll walk around the block for your pet isn't enough. And cats, my gosh, most cats don't even leave the house, so they're exposed to all the electromagnetic frequency pollution, all the stress that that causes on the body. And if I can share one quick story because this is so profound in my mind right now, I have solar on my house, and I used to call my meter readings in to the utilities company, but then they wanted to put a smart meter on my house and they said, you can no longer call in the meter.

We're going to either put a smart meter on your house, or we're going to take you off the solar program. And if you don't accept that, then you lose your Co, you lose your ability to live in your house. Who do they have that kind of control over us. Right. So I agreed to the smart meter, and it was supposed to be put in three weeks from the date that we had agreed. Unbeknownst to me, they had my fence and put the smart meter in. And at around that same time, I started having heart arrhythmias. I started having really bad sleep patterns.

I was doing an HIV test for a friend of mine. My heart rate variability went to horrible. My deep sleep almost went to nothing. So our monitoring it and I'm thinking, wow, what change. It was so dramatic. And then they came to put the meter in and the meter reader was quite surprised. And he said, I don't understand, you already have a smart meter. And I knew when it went in because I knew when I was tracking the changes in my body. So I had a Faraday cage already built to go on the meter, and I had a couple other devices that I was prepared.

When the meter got installed, I was going to put in the house and I did that, and within 12 hours my heart arrhythmias went away. My deep sleep was restored, my brain fog went away, everything returned back to normal, and I could measure the changes. It was dramatic. So for people that they if they're always feeling tired, if they're always sluggish, they always have brain fog. If those are normal behaviors for you, I would suggest that you test the amount of EMF exposure that you have and then do something to mitigate it, and then see how you feel because it is dramatic and it's affecting our animals.

And they're living seven year shorter than they did ten years ago. Imagine. So here with all of this advanced medicine for we have a pill for the ill and a diet for the disease. And we have all this Western advancement and our pets are living seven years shorter. We're not extending their age. They should be living into their 30s and they're barely making it into their early teens, which is heartbreaking. I, you told me the statistic about cancer and I've never had a pet have cancer. And, you know, I, I get them out and we go an hour and a half to three hours every morning up on the mountain.

And, you know, you are saying, well, there it is. Right. And and I think that's so important that there's somewhere that you can take your dogs and let them be dogs, right? They can go off leash, they can run and and they're out away from all of that EMF that's in the, in the neighborhood. So. Well, it's it's not just EMF. You feed a species appropriate diet. They're getting clean water, they're getting outside and they're exercising. You do intermittent fasting with them. So you're doing all the things that they were biologically intended to do.

So therefore their bodies are able to do what they were designed to do. This is not brain science here. You know, we have this amazing body, as does our pets, and they have organs of elimination. They have the ability to detoxify. They have the ability to repair and regenerate. We have all these mechanisms. But we as a society, we have overridden these mechanisms to where they're just bogged down. They can't function anymore. And then we add all the extra stressors of drugs and medications to further suppress the immune system.

Toxicity, EMFs, and Environmental Stress 16:48

And so it's no wonder that we're going to see the rates of dis ease that we do in the world today. I'll tell you that, having Covid last week, when I was in a dark room for three days in quarantine because my daughter was visiting and I, I just stayed in my room. And the dogs are considered vectors. And so they were separated from me. My my one year old puppy acted out like chewed the couch. Things that she never has done before. I lost two throw pillows, a couch, the corner of a carpet. You know, like she really was not pleased.

And so, you know, they they definitely, respond to the energy, you know, the house my daughter and I laugh about, how their emotional support animals that we're vast when you take them into public and, I always say I'm the one that needs to wear the emotional support. I'm the emotional support human for my dogs. Absolutely. And that they took that was taken away from the puppy. She was not happy. Absolutely. And they can feel the stress and they can feel the changes. Yeah. Yeah. So you know and that that doesn't make her a bad dog.

I think that's where people get get a little off trail. Is, not realizing that our animals are telling us something. Yeah. Opened up that doorway. Let's just go ahead and move into that. So we look at our lives and for many people they are victims of their life. And I think your community is probably much more advanced than that. But it still takes a little bit of consciousness and a little bit of the ability to step away from the story and rise above it and kind of look at it and say, isn't that interesting?

What did I create that for? So with our pets, I totally, 100% passionately believe that everything happens for a reason in our life. And what does that mean? That means that if you have a particular pet with a particular challenge, and it's showing up at a particular time in your life, there's some significance there. And we know from Chinese medicine that each organ has things associated with it color, smell and emotion and all of that. So when we look at what the animal is experiencing and we ask ourselves, what is the blessing?

What is the gift? You guys, don't be beating yourself up thinking that you caused your animal to have a disease. It's not about that. It's about looking at the situation and saying what is being reflected back to me. It's cool that people will do things for their pets that they won't do for themselves. So I have people that say, my dog or my cat eat better than me. They have a better lifestyle than me. I look at them and go, shame on you then, right? Yeah, here they are taking you somewhere that you need to go.

And maybe because you've made those changes for the pet a lot of your environmental. So now you've cleaned up your environment, you've cleaned up the house, you do the EMF, you got rid of the xeno estrogens that's benefiting the pet. It's benefiting the family, the two legged ones that live in that household, probably influencing their friends and family because they're going to talk about it. And then it helps Mother Earth as well, because now we're dumping less toxins down the toilet and down the sink.

And so we're doing many things that are improving everything in the world. And I think that's a beautiful way to look at it, is not I'm a victim, but how can I use this experience to rise to another whole level of consciousness? So you have, six steps to health and healing that you use to approach the the medical care for our pets. Can you go through those? I would love to. Is it okay to say where they can get the e-book? Because it's a free e-book where we're providing it? Yeah, five step at a holistic, holistic rate.

So you you got it. Anyhow. Number one. And this is so basic, we have to stop doing the things that are causing the problems and that like diet, you know, what are you feeding your pet? I just model after nature. If nature intended animals to eat a dry kibble, they would have created some kind of a preservation system in nature to do so. They didn't do that. So feeding a kibble diet which is devoid of moisture, it cooks out all the it destroys the enzymes that are in that food. Most of those foods have added toxins.

They take all of this stuff and destroy it, extrude it into a kibble, and then we expect our pets to get some kind of nutrition out of that. And if it's a complete and balanced diet, it probably has the synthetic vitamins and minerals. The fatty acids are going to turn rancid as soon as you open the bag. It is a disaster waiting to happen. So now if we're feeding this to our pets, every bite of every meal is literally causing inflammation, stress, leaky gut, and then the body has to respond to that.

So is it any wonder that by the time these animals reach two years, 3 or 4 years of age, they've already had multiple illnesses. They've already had multiple rounds of medications that then further perpetuate the problem. And it's a disaster. So food is number one. We want to feed a species appropriate balanced raw diet. And we won't spend a lot time on that. But there's more information that we had there. Water super important that we drink highly filtered but not dead water. We want water that is structured, that has a lot of the toxins and pollutants taken out of it.

Right now, we know that there's over 85,000 toxins discovered in tap water, and it could be more depending on where you live. So Florida has pretty nasty water. So it's really important that we learn what does good water look like. Because all the heavy metals that we're seeing, a lot of them are coming through the water source. And people go, I don't understand. My animal has arsenic and strontium and all of these bad metals. Where are they getting it from? Well, mercury is coming from the fish because there's hardly a fish out there now because of Fukushima and all of these nuclear blast that have occurred that don't have heavy mercury levels.

So food, water, the internal environment, we talked about electromagnetic pollution. We talked about things like air quality, mold, making sure if you buy clothes, air them out because they have formaldehyde in them and fire retardants. If you buy new carpeting, you want to try to get either organic or try to get it aired out because it's off gassing, so you don't even realize it because you may not smell it. Or some people go, oh, it has that fresh new smell. No, that's toxins we want. We don't want that.

Disease as Imbalance and Rising Cancer Rates 24:18

We did an Airbnb at a place in Orlando and it was brand new. You walked in the door and that smacked you in the face. It was so toxic from all of the new chemicals and products that they had put in the house, and it hadn't even had a chance to air out yet. So those are just some of the things that we're looking at in Florida. Mold is a huge issue. I would venture to say there's probably more than 7,080% of households have some degree of mold. And of course, black mold being the worst. So you can't see this stuff.

Typically, you have to have your house tested. You have to look for these things. And especially if you have individuals in the household that are suffering from some form of chronic disease, whether it's your pet or yourself or both, then you want to be looking for these factors. If you can get rid of the things that are causing the problem, that's over half the battle. And then the one that is really pertinent to our conversation today are the ants that live in our human brains. And those are the automatic negative thoughts that we have on a daily basis.

Now, you can either be a victim and say, oh, all these negative thoughts and you live them or you can recognize them as a program and then stop and ask yourself, is that negative thought actually serving me a purpose anymore? Am I really not enough? Am I really not having a lot of energy? Am I not smart enough? Am I not pretty enough? Am I not wealthy enough? Whatever that is that you say to yourself as a negative, you need to stop and ask yourself, is that actually helping me? And if the answer is no, then go find a practitioner that can help you to retrain and reframe what those thoughts are.

Because when you have a negative thought, it creates these neurochemicals to be produced because you're literally sending messages from your input, what your perceived, your belief systems are, you're releasing these neurochemicals that are going to go all the way down the cell and communicate with your DNA and let your DNA do your DNA, know what it needs to express based on am I living in a hostile environment, or am I living in an environment where I can thrive and your body is going to adapt to that?

Why is that important for your pets? Go all the way back to the beginning of the conversation of entrainment. So when you're giving off all of these negative emotions and you're creating these neurochemicals that are lighting up your body, lighting up the high sympathetic tone your pet is in training to that. Absolutely. They can they can tell I when I had a brick and mortar clinic, I used to take my dogs in with me and it was so interesting. You know, they they would always know who needed to have a head placed on the lap.

Absolutely. And then they pick it up. Yeah. Yeah. And it's beautiful to watch for those people who are, you know, animal in love, then you attract that to you and hey, and my cat keeps walking over your dog's body. All three of them gather. They, they also have an internal clock. And I feed them between 430 and 5. And it's 430 here. Right on the dog. They just came in and they're wagging. They're like, is it time for dinner, Yeah. Step number one is stop polluting the body. You know, you got to stop doing the things that are causing the problem.

Step number two is providing the essential nutrients that the body needs to do its job. So we are a really awesome biological machine, as is our pets. Now, most of the things that our body needs, we can actually produce it. We have all these biochemical pathways that produce what your body needs. But the essential nutrients, the essential vitamins, minerals and aminos and that your body can't produce those. So when they're essential, it means that you have to get them from an outside source, i.e.

your diet and your pet needs to do that as well. Well, we know that our farming practices have not been sustainable for a very long time, so a lot of our food is being grown on nutrient depleted soils. Well, if that plant doesn't have the nutrient and you're eating that plant, or the herbivore is eating that plant, then who's ever eating that is going to be nutrient deficient because it's just not in the system. And then glyphosate added another whole level of problems,

The Six Steps to Pet Health and Healing 28:58

because one of the things that glyphosate does as an antibiotic, it blocks a pathway called the sugar pathway. It's a big fancy word, but it's a pathway that's found in bacteria. And those bacteria using that pathway produce three of the aromatic amino acids that we need in order to produce our happy neurochemicals. So when these bacteria are no longer able to produce those aromatic amines, we are no longer able to create things like tryptophan and melatonin and, serotonin and dopamine. We can't make it anymore because our body doesn't have the building blocks to make it.

So that becomes a really serious problem. And then, the vitamins and minerals, they're the co-factors that run our metabolic pathways. So I'll take vitamin D as an example, because most people know that we need to have vitamin D, and so they either eat it in their protein source or they as humans, as omnivores, they go out into the sunlight and they get vitamin D converted from sunlight. But dogs and cats are carnivores. They don't get vitamin D from the sun. They cannot produce vitamin C from sunlight.

They have to eat it from their diet. So they have to get it in the protein. Well, imagine if the animal that was in that cancer bag never saw daylight. So it was all of those cattle that are raised in captivity. They're not out free range grazing on the pastures. Then that animal is going to be deficient in vitamin D. Hence, when your pet eats that and we have confirmation of that because there was a university study that was done that showed that processed foods, kibble diets being fed to animals, 85% of the animals were deficient in vitamin D, and it's not even a test that the allopathic veterinarians are testing for.

I test for vitamin D on every single one of my patients, along with magnesium and B12, and I find that, conservatively speaking, 75 to 80% of the patients I test are vitamin D deficient. Yeah. And that's important because vitamin D is what runs our innate immune system. That's the one that runs inside of our body that we don't have to control. It just does its thing. So innate immune system can't work because it doesn't have vitamin D and or magnesium. Now you've just crippled your immune system in a way that it can't respond.

Really important. And so when we're talking about the toxicity of our world, what does detoxification mean for our pet world? Well that's number four. So number three is making sure we heal the leaky gut, which I know your audience is covered. We do the same thing for animals. We work on the microbiome. We work on healing the leaky gut, the tight junctions. We replace the mucous membrane lining of the gut. And so we do all of that support. And then number four is detoxification of the six organs of elimination.

So we have the kidney, the colon, the lungs, the liver, the skin and the lymphatics. And they all are very important. But in my opinion, I think that the liver and the lymphatics are two of the most important of the six organs of elimination, because they do the most work. So if they are impaired, then let's take the lymphatics as an example. That's where we make our T lymphocytes. That's where our immune cells are coming from. And then it's also the number one waste removal of that fluid that's in the extracellular matrix.

And the blood supply. And it's filtering through there. And then it helps to eliminate it out the body in the liver. The liver is in charge of most of our detoxification of products that either come in through the gutter that we eat. So if your liver can't detoxify, if it can't turn it into a water soluble product, and then if it can't package it into a form where the body can then eliminate it out into the intestines, then you're just accumulating that into your fat cells. So we're looking at liver enzymes.

This is something that we can measure. So when people say, oh I had my dog tested and everything was fine, I want to see what those numbers are. Because when you're doing those standard CB chemistry and thyroid testing in the chemistries, we're measuring the enzyme that resides in that specific tissue. So for example, in liver there is an enzyme called alt. And it's very specific for liver cells. When the liver cell is dying and turns over it releases this enzyme. So we know that there's a normal amount of turnover that the average individual that's healthy and vibrant, you're going to have some cells that are dying, and then you're going to make new cells to replace them.

So you have this turnover happening, which means that there's going to be a range of measurable enzyme from the result of those cells that are busting apart and dying. If you were to injure the liver like an animals hit by a car or some other kind of a blow that affects the liver or a drug that is liver toxic, that's killing liver cells, then you're going to release a lot more of those enzymes. The numbers are going to go up accordingly. And now we know that there has been some form of liver damage.

But what's not looked at is when the numbers are low, because when you have that little engine chugging along, there's a certain amount of normal, healthy cellular turnover that's happening. But when that organ becomes so toxic and it becomes so overburdened and it just can't do its job anymore, it just doesn't have the energy to get the work done. Then it starts making less and less and less cells turning over, which means there's less and less enzyme to be measured. Well, sadly, what the lab companies do over years is they keep changing the bell curve.

They keep changing the average normal from the samples that they're getting. Well, we certainly don't have a healthier population than we did 40 years ago or 100 years ago. So what they're doing is they're saying, I'm going to measure you against this unhealthy population, and that's going to be the new normal. No, no, no, no, no. I want to be measured against what healthy was. And then how do I measure up against that? So that's a take away for a lot of pet owners that are watching, is that if you really want to know the health of your animals liver, then you need to look at that number.

And it should be in the middle to high 40s or 90. Somewhere to between 45 and 90 would be a nice range. And that tells me that that liver is doing its job. A chunk and along some of the cells are dying because of just attrition. And then we're replacing that with newer, healthier cells. Beautiful. So that's number four. Let can I just touch a little bit more on detoxification. Because there's so many different things that we can do. And I'm actually going to be opening up detox centers for pets and their parents because this is so important you know, and you have to stop polluting the body.

Be you have to give it all the things it needs to do its job. You've got to repair the leaky gut. And then in order to take it to the next level, these organs have to be working. So we use salt with therapy to clean our lungs. And we literally go into a booth that looks like a telephone booth, and it makes us aerosolized microparticles of sodium chloride. It's a medical grade salt, and we have the patients breathing it in. We have them look up so it gets in their eyes a breathe through their nose.

We let them open their mouth and pant. It gets on their skin. So it's great for skin care as well. And so salt therapy is one of the things we use. We use infrared therapy. I like full spectrum. And why? Because that's what nature did. Nature made the sun, and it has far near and mid-range frequencies based on what time of day you go outside. So we don't have time to sit out in the sun 12 hours a day, I get it. So how can we modify that? Well, we can either do an infrared sauna, preferably full spectrum in my opinion, but we also have these full spectrum pads and the animals can lay on the pad and they're smart.

You know, they they know when they need it and they know when they're done. It's pretty intuitive on their part. So I like using that for the infrared. Ozone is another one product that we use for detoxification. And hyperbaric oxygen I can go on and on. There's so many different things. My take home message for the listeners is that we don't have to be passive bystanders and victims to our organs of elimination, becoming toxic and diseased. Right? We can nourish the kidneys with herbs and with, a variety of different homeopathic.

But we have to consciously know what we're doing. I think a lot of people these days, they hear on the news, oh, curcumin. It's wonderful for this. And hawthorn, it's wonderful for that. And and it's great. But they're missing the basics and they're missing what does the body essentially need. And then anything you do on top of that wonderful. It's gravy. Now you've actually enhanced the body's ability to work and do its job. And then anything you do on top of that is wonderful. And then number five is the mitochondria.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just jump to the mitochondria. But it doesn't work that way. So those are the little powerhouses that make the energy that runs our body. But they also do a lot of other things besides making energy. They produce communication signals. They actually produce ozone. I don't know if most people realize that, but we know ozone is made in the stratosphere. We can certainly make it out of a little machine and our mitochondria make ozone. Ozone is one of the redox signaling molecules that our body uses to act like a cell tower.

So when we make a phone call on our cell phone, it doesn't miraculously go to the person on the other end. It has to get transmitted through cell towers. So the signal is picked up and transferred. The next one picked up and transferred to the next one until eventually it gets to the end user. But if you're out in an area that doesn't have any cell towers, you don't have any cell phone usage. And we've all experienced that before. So the same thing happens in our body. All these microorganisms, the bacteria are producing millions and trillions of these redox signaling molecules that help to carry information to the end user, which is that communication between the mitochondria and the microbiome, all those organisms that live on and in us.

So it's super important that we learn what can we do to support the mitochondria. And ozone is another wonderful example of something that we can do easily and very cost effectively, either in a practitioner's office or at home. They make home ozone kits. Now for people to be able to use, not to be abused, but if taught properly, is a wonderful mechanism. And then last but not least, the book has five. But number six is actually clearing the trapped emotions. And you know, our conversation is coming back to the beginning where we talked about all the energy bodies and how they relate to each other.

Do you want to jump into that one? Yeah, we are out of time. So, we'll have to do this again. I know, I know, that I think we covered it in the earlier part, so this feels like closing the loop nicely. Okay. Yeah. Doctor Siegel, thank you so much for spending your time and just sharing just even a fraction of your wisdom. Well, I hope that with all of that, that people can take 1 or 2 pearls away and then just start to implement that into your lifestyle. Don't feel like you have to change everything.

Day one pick one thing to start and one thing to stop. And then when that's comfortable, go back to the recording and pick another thing to start and pick another thing to stop. And before long you've made massive changes for your pet and for yourself. That's great advice. Yeah, that's great advice. All right, everybody, until next time, be well.