Full Transcript Opening and Podcast Introduction 0:00 If you just kill the cancer, you may win the battle, but you're going to lose the war. 0:03 So if you get a 52% kill rate with ivermectin and a 50% Kill Rate with curcumin, But you know, a 10% KILL RATE with phenbendazole, 0:11 why bother with Phenbendeazol? 0:12 But be sure I'm going be doing curicumin and IV vitamin C or ibermctin, and whatever. 0:16 You know if I get anything that has over a 40-45% percent killrate, I am going pay attention to. 0:21 Welcome to the Deeper Healing Podcast. 0:23 I'm your host Danielle Howley. 0:25 This is for everyone who's been dismissed, misdiagnosed or told to just live with it and refuse to accept that answer. 0:32 You're going to hear amazing patient recovery stories, raw and real in their own words. 0:37 People who found answers after everything had failed them. 0:40 you're gonna hear from medical experts we trust that are pioneering new approaches to healing the body because we deeply know we're designed to heal. 0:49 Let's dig in. 0:56 Hi, it's Danielle here at Deeper Healing and I'm here with Drea and she's got a crazy health story and when I heard that I was like, 1:04 is that even possible? 1:05 So this is what happened. 1:07 She basically in the last year took 10 years off her vein hell. 1:15 So what does that mean? 1:17 And all of her other doctors are like, wait a minute, this isn't even possible. 1:23 So let's talk about, first of all, you're young, and you are beautiful. 1:28 You're very healthy.
Drea's Family History and Arterial Age Discovery 1:33 I would not look at you and go, well, Toria really needs to worry about her heart health. 1:37 That is not something that I, or your vein health, I will not have said that. 1:41 So what even made you think to look into this in the first place? 1:44 So it's been about eight years now that my mom had a triple bypass, and she didn't actually have a heart attack, but she had triple a bypass. 1:51 I was already concerned that it could be something inherited or whatnot, so I had an heart cath score test, which tests, 1:59 basically, if you're going to have heart attacks, it predicts those kind of things. 2:02 and the ideal number is zero, which is what mine was. 2:05 So it was absolutely perfect. 2:07 But then, fast forward a few years later, my friend, who was a doctor, actually started living with me and had an ultrasound where you could ultrasound 2:14 the carotid artery. 2:16 And I love any kind of numbers, so I was like, sure, let's do it. 2:19 And when he got the result back, my arterial age and my carotid artery was 10 years older than my actual age. 2:26 So I started getting concerned. 2:28 And talking with him, he was like, you know, it's related to cholesterol, blah, la, La, so I cut out all me. 2:34 It's a purpose. 2:35 and I was like, it's gonna be better, It's going to be great. 2:37 About a year later, I retested and i was 20 years older in my arteries than my actual age, so I really started getting freaked out. 2:46 So then I went down this whole rabbit hole and in the meantime, i had already scheduled an appointment with Dr. 2:50 Bowersmith. 2:51 I hadn't met with him yet. 2:53 Um,I didn't even know about the carotid artery thing.I was just looking at overall health when I met him.So when i started researching it,i found this 3:00 thing out in California called Plaquex. 3:02 And it was the only thing that I could found with any semblance that could reverse this arterial beginning, other than maybe like this thing called the 3:10 Ornish diet, which was extremely strict diet that may at least stop the aging of it, but not reverse it to this extent. 3:17 So I like mostly I'll hear people talk about just like preventing it getting worse. 3:22 But you don't actually hear about like a dramatic like healing it making it better. 3:27 When I went to retest it most recently, he was like, if you haven't progressed, that's a win. 3:31 But that's not a win for me because I was already 20 years older. 3:34 And again, in every other way, shape or form, I feel like I'm physically much younger than my actual age. 3:39 So, yeah, it really scared me. 3:41 Yeah. 3:42 Especially after my mom had this triple bypass and she did not have a heart attack. 3:46 It's me that was a direct correlation to where I headed. 3:49 Yes. 3:50 There's got to be something you can do about this. 3:52 We just have too much technology. 3:53 I found this single plaque in the Californian. 3:57 Then I started researching, well, who near me could do that? 4:00 Again, I already had this appointment with Bowers but scheduled but I had not been and sure enough deeper healing had the ability to do this and I think 4:08 it's Phosphatidylcholine is what the IV is. 4:11 Anyway, so even before I met with him or right around then when I first met him we started scheduling the Black X and actually I did 36 rounds because 4:24 the best ideal treatment they say is between like 20 or 40 to get the most bang for your buck. 4:29 And I knew I wanted to go all in because I needed a substantial reversal. 4:33 So I didn't want to give up my travel plan. 4:44 the series of 10, 26, or whatever it was. 4:47 So then when I retested, again, my mainstream doctor said, if you just don't move any forward, we'll consider that a win. 4:55 But I actually reversed my arterial A 10 years. 5:00 Again, that's life-changing and life saving. 5:03 literally life-saving. 5:05 So when I asked Dr. 5:06 V about your case, he was like, the key thing that she did was the chelating with the PTC.
Plaquex, Chelation, and Reversing Arterial Age 5:14 The PPC is the phosphatidylcholine. 5:17 It was that combination. 5:18 I also just did a heavy metal detox during that time. 5:21 He said that was key. 5:22 That's a very important And it was actually only, the window that I did it, was about eight months. 5:26 And again, I was traveling out of the country for two months, so in that time I just did some kind of maintenance things. 5:32 So I didn't stick it all in one chunk, but I do the full IV chelation and I get DMSA and then Metapur or whatever. 5:42 Yeah, you were doing IV and oral chelaing. 5:46 Correct. 5:47 And then you were kind of also doing that with the PDC too. 5:51 We're doing the IV and the oral. 5:53 But you are basically consistently kind-of like pulling it down over, but you think about a short period of time, eight months, 6:02 nine months. 6:03 to go from, I think your, your I was looking at your test, it was like an arterial age of 74. Yeah. 6:10 And you're in your fifties and you are super healthy. 6:12 Like this is a super-healthy girl. 6:15 So yeah, you were on a really bad path. 6:18 This is one of those silent suffering kind of things where, yeah. 6:22 I wouldn't have known until it's too late. 6:23 You never would have been until. 6:24 If I hadn't, and I would not have even thought to have the test. 6:27 Except again, my friend had it and so it wasn't accessible. 6:30 It was, like, let's do it. 6:31 And I wonder if you didn't have your mom. 6:33 I would have been as concerned because immediately after she had that triple bypass, I went and did all the things like EKGs, 6:40 and I'd get in the heart cath score and everything was perfect. 6:42 Yeah. 6:43 So it did make me more at least conscious about paying attention. 6:48 And so I think your story is extreme because you are so young, so healthy, And it was so severe. 6:54 But imagine how many people are out there that have that. 6:59 have that high, what did Dr. 7:01 B said? 7:02 He's like, it's just like when you're soaking the pan and you have all that hard stuff on the edge, and then you like it softly coming off and it is going 7:11 down the drain. 7:11 That's pretty much what's happening. 7:13 She cleared out her vein, that improves your entire circulation system, the oxygen delivery, this cell health, your blood health your energy level, 7:23 I mean everything, every part of your body is improved. 7:26 by having healthy veins and healthy blood flow. 7:29 So I mean, it sounds like, oh, yeah, that's great 20 years, but it is literally life saving and life extending. 7:37 For sure. 7:37 By doing that. 7:38 And as we age as women, we lose the estrogen, which keeps our arteries more pliable. 7:46 It's things you don't really, again, notice that are happening internally. 7:49 Yes. 7:50 And you know, it's funny, I think chelation gets a bad rap. 7:54 I thank a lot of people because if you start researching it, there's so much pro and con, and then people get confused about what to do. 8:01 And one thing no one ever really talks about is vein health. 8:08 My own chalation story, like I am very high lead, my thing is I'm all about preserving my brain. 8:14 Look at all these memory care facilities. 8:17 They're packed with people that are losing their minds, early dementia, Alzheimer's. 8:20 Everyone you meet in their 40s is like, I can't think of the word. 8:24 It's toxins, people. 8:26 Toxins. 8:27 This is, and I have no doubt that that was a big contributing factor to your story. 8:30 My numbers, especially mercury and lead were very high, but a lot of them were high. 8:36 My mainstream doctor told me not to worry about it, because even by mainstream standards, my arsenic was very high. 8:41 I'm still not sure if it was from a sea salt or where it's coming from, but it is astronomically high and again my mainstream doctors was like, 8:49 don't worry it out. 8:50 It's organic. 8:53 To have all those things building up in my body and, you know, because I'm pescetarian, it may have added to the mercury lead levels, 8:59 but now they're back in a much healthier range. 9:02 But I am still knowing what I do now and how much I can sift things. 9:05 I will still work on getting those down further and my arterial age down farther. 9:10 I had an 80-year-old woman here, she would come in and she'd do a chelation. 9:14 She would probably come like once a month. 9:16 And I was like, how often are you going to do this? 9:18 She's like when I stop coming, I'm done. 9:20 I said, oh my God, because she said I know it's great maintenance for me. 9:25 And it was kind of my first epiphany of like, oh, this is something that is like a constant, if it's constantly coming in. 9:36 So I feel like what you did was you just hit the reset button. 9:39 You just kind like pulled it way down, got yourself back to kind where you should have been at your age. 9:48 And, you know, just adding quality and adding the quality years of health to your life. 9:54 Amazing. 9:55 I hope somebody out there hears this story and is inspired. 9:59 It's funny, I was talking to someone earlier today, we're doing a really cool recording today. 10:02 They're like, oh my gosh, i know some people that need that. 10:06 You can do better than just not making it worse.
How Phosphatidylcholine and Chelation Work 10:11 What if you could actually heal and get actually better, improve your health? 10:18 That's what we want to do in deeper healing. 10:20 We want find out what's the culprit and go after it. 10:24 As Dr. 10:25 B says, put out the fire, but also find the arsonist and arrest them. 10:29 And I'm really, really excited for your results. 10:32 Thanks for sharing it, sharing these stories are huge for people. 10:36 You don't get this kind of information anywhere. 10:40 Hi everybody, I thought it would be really awesome because Dreya's story is so amazing. 10:45 I want to hear medically, because I know there's people out there that geek out about the stuff, like how did that even work? 10:52 So how does that work even? 10:54 Let's be clear on a couple of points. 10:56 Number one, she did. 11:00 One, we're talking about arterial age, not vein age. 11:04 The tests that Drea was referring to is called carotid Doppler or carotic ultrasound, where they actually measured the thickness of the lining of wall 11:14 of artery. 11:14 Okay. 11:15 Thicker it is, the more advanced the age because we are all kind of like, were not getting any younger. 11:21 So what she did is she reversed that age from going 10 years older than her biological age back to her biologic age, which is phenomenal in and of itself. 11:32 There's no reason that was clearly evident that she should have had that advanced aging other than her maternal history, 11:42 mom's history. 11:43 So that aside, why did that work? 11:46 Plaquex is actually the trademark name for the IV that the Anazale company uses to describe their IV product or IV formulation of phosphatidylcholine. 12:03 Phosphatidylocholene is a very important component of our cell membranes. 12:09 we actually use it to repair our cell membranes. 12:12 And by its nature, phosphatidylcholine is actually, it's fatty. 12:16 Okay. 12:18 Believe it or not, if someone calls you a fathead, thank them. 12:23 because over half your brain is lipid. 12:26 We are really fatty organisms. 12:28 Everything we have has to be fat soluble. 12:31 It has be able to transferred across the cell membrane. 12:34 The phosphatidylcholine is one of the big reasons that we can because our cell membranes aren't just like one continuous border like you would see in a 12:45 garden or on a map. 12:46 It's actually a lattice work of interconnected strands, and the phosphatylcholine is an important part of that strand work that allows molecules to slip 12:54 through those holes and be transferred across into the cytoplasm of the cell where all the work in the cells takes place. 13:02 The cytoplasm of the cell is in and of itself a huge place. 13:05 But bottom line, what we're doing here was helping her dissolve the plaque with the use of phosphatidylcholine, because it will rebuild cell membranes 13:13 and also transport lipids and cholesterol. 13:18 So it can work in the way of rebuilding damaged cells, which is why you started developing the plaques to begin with. 13:26 OK. 13:27 And also it helps remove the plaque, helps dissolve the pla and return it into your circulation. 13:33 So was that, so the metals were almost like the sticky part, like them because she had it, she was doing them with chelation. 13:41 Yeah. 13:41 so that the medals were kind of like that. 13:45 And so as she's taking her metal level down, then the phosphatidylcholine is like the grease that's kind of like letting it come out? 13:53 Well, kind sort of, you know, and let's back up a little bit historically. 13:57 Phosphatidylcholene was kind happened on accidentally by a German physician years ago and healing one of his, I think he was a family member actually. 14:07 that had a heart attack, and I don't know the circumstances around it, but the phosphorylcholine seemed to help improve their health. 14:14 Initially, it was primarily used in addition to chelation. 14:18 Why? 14:19 Because the metals are the irritants that cause the cell membrane. 14:23 It actually has been shown in animal models that things like mercury and lead interfere with an enzyme that we need to prevent plaque deposition. 14:36 Okay. 14:36 So the metals actually permit the plaque deposition, and whether that's a direct toxic effect to the cell or not, I can't tell you, 14:44 but we know that if we eliminate the metal, that enzyme comes back in the thing and we reduce plaque. 14:49 Okay, so getting rid of the, in this case, the the medals are the arsenis that started the fire. 14:56 The plaque is the fired. 14:57 We get rid the arsonist, put out the fire. 15:03 And so that's why that was working well together and that why she was doing those kind of back to back in a regular way. 15:09 Exactly. 15:10 Now, if someone's out here going, okay, can I do this orally? 15:15 You can. 15:16 It takes a lot longer, of course. 15:17 I mean, in general, it's generally conceded that around 20 IV treatments is pretty much what you need. 15:25 In general, if you were trying to rebuild your cell membranes orally, you're looking at a three-month period before you notice any kind of changes and 15:33 six months before, I probably got my maximum benefit. 15:37 Anything you take IV is certainly you get 100% absorption. 15:42 Orally? 15:43 Who knows? 15:43 Depends on what shape your gut's in. 15:46 Because I was thinking they wouldn't be able to do it oraly because I Would you still do it the metals the metal removal and the phosphatidylcholine? 15:57 Oh, yeah Yeah, I think that that is that isn't and for many years it was that was they were done in conjunction with one another. 16:03 Okay? 16:04 We know that they both work independently as well Okay I haven't I'm you know the there is this trial to assess chelation therapy to look at people that 16:12 had a heart attack and they receive chalation and there was a Decided benefit if you had chelasin in terms of reducing your chance of another heart. 16:19 Attack. 16:19 I The phosphatylcholine has clearly also been shown independently to also help remove plaque and rebuild cell membrane laws in that respect because it 16:31 can help the body detoxify because as you break down the cell wall or rebuild a cellwall, things are being let loose and back into the circulation. 16:39 So there's other benefits besides the plaque removal that phosphatocholene can provide. 16:43 But I'm not aware of any study that said that we get X amount with chelation, X mount with plaque X, but we got 5X with using them combined.
Inflammation, Statins, and Closing Remarks 16:53 Okay. 16:54 That's really cool. 16:55 I mean, what's great is like so many of the doctors I've talked to and obviously patients are like, I didn't even know this was possible. 17:02 So it's like I think this is one of those things where we had some wisdom and we maybe lost it on the way. 17:08 Oh, there's lots we've lost along the way. 17:10 I know. 17:11 So I love sharing stories like this because I think Dre is a perfect example of someone who is the picture of how takes really good care of herself and 17:21 was told there was nothing that could be done. 17:23 Now she's like, There was so much that can be died. 17:26 And I'm so excited and I want more people to know about it. 17:30 And that is literally the purpose of this podcast. 17:32 My hope is that the right people find this, but I wanted you to kind of explain. 17:37 Obviously, I botched that. 17:38 I thought it was vein health, vein, artery, all the same. 17:41 But, you know, also, like I know I'm dealing with my metals, more concerned about my neurological symptoms. 17:46 She's getting all of the benefits of getting those heavy metal loads down. 17:51 So but then the direct benefit to her art artery. 17:55 That's the demonstrable benefit. 17:56 Yeah. 17:57 I mean, this is something that's really easy to do. 17:59 It's any hospital and a lot of outpatient radiology places can do carotid Dopplers and just measure that thickness. 18:09 There was another interesting, just looking back, there was an article out of Japan that looked at carotted artery thickness and they did, 18:18 they measured after 10, 20 and 30 chelations and each time they do another set of 10 that arterial improved, that artery health improved. 18:27 So by itself it's effective as well. 18:30 Is that only preventing heart attacks? 18:33 Oh, gosh, no. 18:33 I mean, this is cleaning all your arteries. 18:35 It doesn't just go to the carotid artery. 18:37 Well, that's what I was thinking. 18:38 No, I guess that was when I saying vein health. 18:41 That's improving your circulation in every way. 18:46 These are your main highways that you're clearing up. 18:48 Your arterial health is the stuff that gets plugged up and deprives the body of oxygen. 18:53 You quit making energy, you quit make an energy and start dying. 18:58 Okay, all right. 18:59 And for someone so young, so I mean, that's the surprising part. 19:03 Most people, I means, she's my age. 19:05 I'm not out here checking my artery health. 19:07 That's just not something I've doing. 19:10 Not thinking about that. 19:11 So it was interesting. 19:12 The only reason she had the thought to do that was just from her, her family history. 19:16 But we've had plenty of people in here who are like, very worried. 19:22 Um, and often they're just getting on a stat. 19:24 You know, they just doing the, the prophylactic thing of like, I'm going to get on the statin and she brought this up. 19:33 Now you gotta listen to the story. 19:36 Okay. 19:38 1992 or 93. I am running the ER at Imperial Point Medical Center in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. 19:46 And a drug representative from Eli Lilly walks in, and drug rep never came into the ER, because they got nothing to sell me. 19:52 I mean, I'm like, going to treat you in the street chair, or I've got to teach you. 19:56 OK, one of those two things. 19:57 And I don't write a lot of prescriptions. 19:59 He comes in and he says, listen, Doc, the next card attack patient you got, you've gotta give them my statin drug. 20:06 I'm going, what in God's holy name do I want to give somebody that's having a heart attack something to prevent a hear attack? 20:14 He says, no, it doesn't work by reducing cholesterol. 20:18 It works through an anti-inflammatory effect like aspirin. 20:21 And I went, that interesting, I might want do that then. 20:24 I checked the emergency medicine literature and there were a few articles about it actually at the time. 20:29 Then all of a sudden those articles disappeared. 20:32 And I often wondered why and I thought about it and said, if people were reasoning that if it works like an aspirin, why not just give them an asprin? 20:41 And the drug companies, so they buried the articles, which they can do, and they do on a regular basis when things don't go to their bottom line. 20:49 And they look because at one point, just the Lipitor was a $9 billion a quarter profit maker. 21:00 Wow. 21:00 So bottom line is inflammation is the enemy. 21:04 It's not the cholesterol. 21:05 it's the oxidation of the LDL which happens as a result of inflammation that makes it sticky. 21:11 Okay. 21:13 There you go, folks. 21:14 That's straight from the medical director of Deeper Healing. 21:18 And now you understand what happened with Drea's story, which is an incredible healing story that many, many people need. 21:26 Thanks for listening. 21:27 We hope this episode inspired you. 21:29 Here's how to go deeper. 21:30 Visit deeperhealing.com to become a patient. 21:33 Online we have loads of courses and a free toxin quiz. 21:37 Subscribe and please, please share this episode with someone who needs it. 21:41 It's always that one-on-one support that really gets people to find deeper healing. 21:53 Remember, this is educational content, not medical advice. 21:57 The information shared here should be discussed with your own personal healthcare provider. 22:01 If you're excited by listening to the medical experts or the personal recovery stories on here and you want to start your deeper healing journey, 22:09 go to deeperhealing.com and start the process.
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