The Fifth Burner: Innovation w/o Burnout | Gloves Off w Josh Makower

What does it actually take to build something that changes the world? I sat down with Josh Makower, MD, Stanford professor, engineer, and holder of 300+ patents, and his answer to my most pressing question was the last thing I expected.

This is the kind of conversation that makes you rethink how you measure success, effort, and what it means to truly get things done.

🎙️ Full episode drops June 21st at 6 PM PST
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