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Menopause Advocacy and Awareness 0:39 age. The menopausal matrix part two 0:39 age. The menopausal matrix part two dispel uh dispelling the myths uh and 0:42 dispel uh dispelling the myths uh and 0:42 dispel uh dispelling the myths uh and menopausal advocacy. Um in our last 0:45 menopausal advocacy. Um in our last 0:45 menopausal advocacy. Um in our last episode we talked 0:47 episode we talked 0:47 episode we talked about just menopause in general. We got 0:49 about just menopause in general. We got 0:49 about just menopause in general. We got into even some of the spirituality 0:51 into even some of the spirituality 0:51 into even some of the spirituality behind it. What does it mean? what are 0:53 behind it. What does it mean? what are 0:53 behind it. What does it mean? what are the symptoms? How do we handle that? 0:55 the symptoms? How do we handle that? 0:55 the symptoms? How do we handle that? What you know, what are all the 0:56 What you know, what are all the 0:56 What you know, what are all the conditions that are kind of related 0:57 conditions that are kind of related 0:57 conditions that are kind of related around it? And it's it's a big problem. 1:00 around it? And it's it's a big problem. 1:00 around it? And it's it's a big problem. I mean, obviously, we got into details 1:02 I mean, obviously, we got into details 1:02 I mean, obviously, we got into details about that, but this is a national 1:04 about that, but this is a national 1:04 about that, but this is a national problem. It's it's a global problem, at 1:08 problem. It's it's a global problem, at 1:08 problem. It's it's a global problem, at least particularly in developed 1:09 least particularly in developed 1:09 least particularly in developed countries, but it's it's a problem here 1:11 countries, but it's it's a problem here 1:11 countries, but it's it's a problem here in the US, and we need to advocate for 1:14 in the US, and we need to advocate for 1:14 in the US, and we need to advocate for more for it. We need to educate more 1:18 more for it. We need to educate more 1:18 more for it. We need to educate more about menopause, pmenopause, hormonal 1:22 about menopause, pmenopause, hormonal 1:22 about menopause, pmenopause, hormonal issues and the proper and safe and 1:25 issues and the proper and safe and 1:25 issues and the proper and safe and effective use of estrogen and 1:27 effective use of estrogen and 1:27 effective use of estrogen and testosterone therapy for women. And uh 1:31 testosterone therapy for women. And uh 1:31 testosterone therapy for women. And uh we have interestingly already been doing 1:33 we have interestingly already been doing 1:33 we have interestingly already been doing that. We've been advocating uh by being 1:36 that. We've been advocating uh by being 1:36 that. We've been advocating uh by being directly in the trenches um uh with 1:39 directly in the trenches um uh with 1:39 directly in the trenches um uh with women and for women for two decades. And 1:43 women and for women for two decades. And 1:43 women and for women for two decades. And um it's just we've seen this huge 1:45 um it's just we've seen this huge 1:45 um it's just we've seen this huge resurgence or sort of renaissance 1:48 resurgence or sort of renaissance 1:48 resurgence or sort of renaissance rebirth of that. I maybe not even 1:51 rebirth of that. I maybe not even 1:51 rebirth of that. I maybe not even rebirth this might be the this birth of 1:53 rebirth this might be the this birth of 1:53 rebirth this might be the this birth of this idea. I don't think it's a rebirth. 1:54 this idea. I don't think it's a rebirth. 1:54 this idea. I don't think it's a rebirth. Yeah. It's just I mean I don't think 1:57 Yeah. It's just I mean I don't think 1:57 Yeah. It's just I mean I don't think it's a rebirth because I think even when 1:59 it's a rebirth because I think even when 1:59 it's a rebirth because I think even when we think of a time perhaps where there 2:03 we think of a time perhaps where there 2:03 we think of a time perhaps where there was more wisdom from the crone as we 2:06 was more wisdom from the crone as we 2:06 was more wisdom from the crone as we mentioned in the previous episode. Yeah. 2:08 mentioned in the previous episode. Yeah. 2:08 mentioned in the previous episode. Yeah. women's menopausal experiences back then 2:10 women's menopausal experiences back then 2:10 women's menopausal experiences back then are not what they are today. So really 2:13 are not what they are today. So really 2:13 are not what they are today. So really this is the first time where we're 2:16 this is the first time where we're 2:16 this is the first time where we're having in developed countries as you 2:18 having in developed countries as you 2:18 having in developed countries as you mentioned menopause is a disease instead 2:21 mentioned menopause is a disease instead 2:21 mentioned menopause is a disease instead of just a state 2:23 of just a state 2:23 of just a state and that therefore there's there's 2:25 and that therefore there's there's 2:25 and that therefore there's there's options for that and that we should 2:27 options for that and that we should 2:27 options for that and that we should advocate for those options right we need
Why Women Need Better Menopause Care 2:29 advocate for those options right we need 2:29 advocate for those options right we need to advocate for doctors being educated 2:31 to advocate for doctors being educated 2:31 to advocate for doctors being educated to understand what the options are and 2:33 to understand what the options are and 2:33 to understand what the options are and provide those yes uh to women um so 2:36 provide those yes uh to women um so 2:36 provide those yes uh to women um so incredibly important and we need to 2:38 incredibly important and we need to 2:38 incredibly important and we need to encourage women to talk about these 2:39 encourage women to talk about these 2:39 encourage women to talk about these things. I mean, I I I know women um one 2:42 things. I mean, I I I know women um one 2:42 things. I mean, I I I know women um one of the characteristics of females is 2:44 of the characteristics of females is 2:44 of the characteristics of females is they tend to cluster up and and 2:46 they tend to cluster up and and 2:46 they tend to cluster up and and commiserate, 2:48 commiserate, 2:48 commiserate, but menopause isn't necessarily 2:51 but menopause isn't necessarily 2:52 but menopause isn't necessarily something that everyone talks about in 2:53 something that everyone talks about in 2:53 something that everyone talks about in part because I don't think they know 2:56 part because I don't think they know 2:56 part because I don't think they know that it's a symptom they shouldn't be 2:58 that it's a symptom they shouldn't be 2:58 that it's a symptom they shouldn't be experiencing. Um so that's one of the 3:00 experiencing. Um so that's one of the 3:00 experiencing. Um so that's one of the things or they don't know there's 3:01 things or they don't know there's 3:01 things or they don't know there's answers so they say, "Well, I got to 3:03 answers so they say, "Well, I got to 3:03 answers so they say, "Well, I got to live with it." And eventually you just 3:04 live with it." And eventually you just 3:04 live with it." And eventually you just resign to this idea that I got to live 3:06 resign to this idea that I got to live 3:06 resign to this idea that I got to live with it even when you're commiserating 3:08 with it even when you're commiserating 3:08 with it even when you're commiserating with your friends. Yeah. 3:10 with your friends. Yeah. 3:10 with your friends. Yeah. until you find that one friend that 3:11 until you find that one friend that 3:11 until you find that one friend that comes into the group that says, "Have 3:13 comes into the group that says, "Have 3:13 comes into the group that says, "Have you heard of the sex dogs?" Yes. Have 3:15 you heard of the sex dogs?" Yes. Have 3:15 you heard of the sex dogs?" Yes. Have Have you been? Which, you know, a joking 3:17 Have you been? Which, you know, a joking 3:17 Have you been? Which, you know, a joking aside is essentially what happens, 3:19 aside is essentially what happens, 3:19 aside is essentially what happens, right? Like um I just recently met with 3:22 right? Like um I just recently met with 3:22 right? Like um I just recently met with an amazing group of women. It was a 3:23 an amazing group of women. It was a 3:23 an amazing group of women. It was a quick group of women. It was like I 3:25 quick group of women. It was like I 3:25 quick group of women. It was like I don't know 10 or so. I have already 3:27 don't know 10 or so. I have already 3:27 don't know 10 or so. I have already treated two of them. Yeah. And and it 3:30 treated two of them. Yeah. And and it 3:30 treated two of them. Yeah. And and it was so it was so awesome. It was like 3:33 was so it was so awesome. It was like 3:33 was so it was so awesome. It was like the the one friend who knows me from the 3:36 the the one friend who knows me from the 3:36 the the one friend who knows me from the gym. we have the same amazing trainer 3:38 gym. we have the same amazing trainer 3:38 gym. we have the same amazing trainer and she was like, "Hey, would you be 3:40 and she was like, "Hey, would you be 3:40 and she was like, "Hey, would you be willing to talk to my group of friends?" 3:42 willing to talk to my group of friends?" 3:42 willing to talk to my group of friends?" And I thought, "Well, this is fun. I've 3:45 And I thought, "Well, this is fun. I've 3:45 And I thought, "Well, this is fun. I've never actually had this much of an 3:47 never actually had this much of an 3:47 never actually had this much of an intimate setting where it's a group of 3:50 intimate setting where it's a group of 3:50 intimate setting where it's a group of friends that sit around weekly. They 3:52 friends that sit around weekly. They 3:52 friends that sit around weekly. They play cards." Um, or what do they play? 3:55 play cards." Um, or what do they play? 3:55 play cards." Um, or what do they play? No. Is it maong? Maong. Yeah, they play 3:57 No. Is it maong? Maong. Yeah, they play 3:57 No. Is it maong? Maong. Yeah, they play maong, which I don't think is cards. 3:58 maong, which I don't think is cards. 3:58 maong, which I don't think is cards. It's like domino domino. So, they play 4:01 It's like domino domino. So, they play 4:01 It's like domino domino. So, they play their game and they talk amongst 4:04 their game and they talk amongst 4:04 their game and they talk amongst themselves like, "How about this? How 4:05 themselves like, "How about this? How 4:05 themselves like, "How about this? How about that?" how do I'm suffering with 4:06 about that?" how do I'm suffering with 4:06 about that?" how do I'm suffering with this or I tried that doctor. Isn't that 4:09 this or I tried that doctor. Isn't that 4:09 this or I tried that doctor. Isn't that a great idea? You know, someone who's an 4:11 a great idea? You know, someone who's an 4:11 a great idea? You know, someone who's an expert in something you're curious in 4:14 expert in something you're curious in 4:14 expert in something you're curious in and you bring them in. It reminds me of 4:15 and you bring them in. It reminds me of 4:15 and you bring them in. It reminds me of like, I don't know, the Jane Austin 4:17 like, I don't know, the Jane Austin 4:17 like, I don't know, the Jane Austin Times or something where you would have 4:19 Times or something where you would have 4:19 Times or something where you would have someone come and speak on a topic and I 4:21 someone come and speak on a topic and I 4:21 someone come and speak on a topic and I love that. So, that's what they did. 4:23 love that. So, that's what they did. 4:23 love that. So, that's what they did. They invited me to come and join them. 4:26 They invited me to come and join them. 4:26 They invited me to come and join them. We were there for two hours just 4:27 We were there for two hours just 4:27 We were there for two hours just fielding questions. And I was so 4:31 fielding questions. And I was so 4:31 fielding questions. And I was so surprised at how much they didn't know 4:34 surprised at how much they didn't know 4:34 surprised at how much they didn't know and how much they were just braving 4:37 and how much they were just braving 4:37 and how much they were just braving through. It was pretty shocking. I over 4:41 through. It was pretty shocking. I over 4:41 through. It was pretty shocking. I over the years I've had many many women say, 4:43 the years I've had many many women say, 4:43 the years I've had many many women say, uh, I've got my group of friends and I'm 4:45 uh, I've got my group of friends and I'm 4:45 uh, I've got my group of friends and I'm the guinea pig. They'll say, I I, you 4:48 the guinea pig. They'll say, I I, you 4:48 the guinea pig. They'll say, I I, you know, I found you. I'm coming. And 4:49 know, I found you. I'm coming. And 4:49 know, I found you. I'm coming. And everybody wants to know what happens 4:51 everybody wants to know what happens 4:51 everybody wants to know what happens when you when you go see the hormone 4:52 when you when you go see the hormone 4:52 when you when you go see the hormone zone. Uh, you know, what what happens? 4:55 zone. Uh, you know, what what happens? 4:55 zone. Uh, you know, what what happens? And then they go back and they tell them 4:56 And then they go back and they tell them 4:56 And then they go back and they tell them and often those patients start kind of 4:58 and often those patients start kind of 4:58 and often those patients start kind of trickling in to see us. Um because 5:00 trickling in to see us. Um because 5:00 trickling in to see us. Um because generally speaking, uh people feel 5:02 generally speaking, uh people feel 5:02 generally speaking, uh people feel better. Yeah. Once they get hormone 5:04 better. Yeah. Once they get hormone 5:04 better. Yeah. Once they get hormone replacement therapy done the right way 5:06 replacement therapy done the right way 5:06 replacement therapy done the right way and all the misconceptions about who 5:08 and all the misconceptions about who 5:08 and all the misconceptions about who can't try it. You know, I'd actually 5:10 can't try it. You know, I'd actually 5:10 can't try it. You know, I'd actually like this to be like a a really 5:12 like this to be like a a really 5:12 like this to be like a a really important talking point. Let's take a 5:13 important talking point. Let's take a 5:14 important talking point. Let's take a minute to highlight this point. Okay. I 5:16 minute to highlight this point. Okay. I 5:16 minute to highlight this point. Okay. I think everybody should have a 5:18 think everybody should have a 5:18 think everybody should have a consultation with a hormone 5:20 consultation with a hormone 5:20 consultation with a hormone expert if they think they're not a 5:22 expert if they think they're not a 5:22 expert if they think they're not a candidate. if they think they're nowhere 5:23 candidate. if they think they're nowhere 5:23 candidate. if they think they're nowhere near it, if they think um they're 5:25 near it, if they think um they're 5:26 near it, if they think um they're already on a great solution, everyone 5:27 already on a great solution, everyone 5:28 already on a great solution, everyone should seek to have consultations with a 5:30 should seek to have consultations with a 5:30 should seek to have consultations with a hormone expert because you never know 5:34 hormone expert because you never know 5:34 hormone expert because you never know how much better you can be doing. Yeah, 5:37 how much better you can be doing. Yeah, 5:37 how much better you can be doing. Yeah, that's a perfect segue with this idea of
Consulting Hormone Experts 5:40 that's a perfect segue with this idea of 5:40 that's a perfect segue with this idea of advocacy. Yeah. Um that we should just 5:42 advocacy. Yeah. Um that we should just 5:42 advocacy. Yeah. Um that we should just say, you know, public service 5:44 say, you know, public service 5:44 say, you know, public service announcement. Yeah. Everybody go in and 5:46 announcement. Yeah. Everybody go in and 5:46 announcement. Yeah. Everybody go in and get checked. Yes. Um, and you know, or 5:50 get checked. Yes. Um, and you know, or 5:50 get checked. Yes. Um, and you know, or say seek the doctors that know how to 5:53 say seek the doctors that know how to 5:53 say seek the doctors that know how to check. The reason I say that too, 5:55 check. The reason I say that too, 5:55 check. The reason I say that too, because there needs to be more advocacy, 5:56 because there needs to be more advocacy, 5:56 because there needs to be more advocacy, which is part of the education for 5:58 which is part of the education for 5:58 which is part of the education for doctors, because many will say it, they 6:00 doctors, because many will say it, they 6:00 doctors, because many will say it, they still say it. Uh, no, you don't. I can 6:03 still say it. Uh, no, you don't. I can 6:03 still say it. Uh, no, you don't. I can give you hormones, but we don't need to 6:04 give you hormones, but we don't need to 6:04 give you hormones, but we don't need to check levels. Yeah, that doesn't matter. 6:07 check levels. Yeah, that doesn't matter. 6:07 check levels. Yeah, that doesn't matter. I can just throw something at you. Maybe 6:09 I can just throw something at you. Maybe 6:09 I can just throw something at you. Maybe there's a cream or a patch or something. 6:11 there's a cream or a patch or something. 6:11 there's a cream or a patch or something. I'll give that to you if you say you 6:13 I'll give that to you if you say you 6:13 I'll give that to you if you say you have these symptoms. But there's no real 6:15 have these symptoms. But there's no real 6:15 have these symptoms. But there's no real checking or preemptive checking, 6:17 checking or preemptive checking, 6:17 checking or preemptive checking, proactive checking. None of that exists. 6:20 proactive checking. None of that exists. 6:20 proactive checking. None of that exists. Or the opposite ends of the spectrum, 6:21 Or the opposite ends of the spectrum, 6:21 Or the opposite ends of the spectrum, which is I'll check and everything looks 6:24 which is I'll check and everything looks 6:24 which is I'll check and everything looks fine. Oh yeah. Because you know you're 6:26 fine. Oh yeah. Because you know you're 6:26 fine. Oh yeah. Because you know you're 50. Yeah. Right. So your level should 6:30 50. Yeah. Right. So your level should 6:30 50. Yeah. Right. So your level should suck and you should feel and you should 6:31 suck and you should feel and you should 6:31 suck and you should feel and you should feel like because basically this is 6:33 feel like because basically this is 6:33 feel like because basically this is that stage of life. Exactly. Yeah. You 6:35 that stage of life. Exactly. Yeah. You 6:35 that stage of life. Exactly. Yeah. You have to live with it. And we always say 6:37 have to live with it. And we always say 6:37 have to live with it. And we always say you don't have to live with it. Um so 6:40 you don't have to live with it. Um so 6:40 you don't have to live with it. Um so yes that that this is all about 6:42 yes that that this is all about 6:42 yes that that this is all about advocacy. So here we are kind of 6:44 advocacy. So here we are kind of 6:44 advocacy. So here we are kind of advocating for people to advocate for 6:46 advocating for people to advocate for 6:46 advocating for people to advocate for themselves to go out there and and look 6:48 themselves to go out there and and look 6:48 themselves to go out there and and look but also um I think that there's need 6:52 but also um I think that there's need 6:52 but also um I think that there's need and we're now starting to see this 6:54 and we're now starting to see this 6:54 and we're now starting to see this fantastic penetration actually into 6:57 fantastic penetration actually into 6:57 fantastic penetration actually into legislation and creating policy um for
Policy Goals for Menopause Reform 7:02 legislation and creating policy um for 7:02 legislation and creating policy um for menopausal women. I mean this this is 7:04 menopausal women. I mean this this is 7:04 menopausal women. I mean this this is just fantastic. And part of the reason 7:05 just fantastic. And part of the reason 7:06 just fantastic. And part of the reason they would say that it's needed um is 7:09 they would say that it's needed um is 7:09 they would say that it's needed um is one just the understanding of it, but 7:11 one just the understanding of it, but 7:11 one just the understanding of it, but that there's more options potentially 7:14 that there's more options potentially 7:14 that there's more options potentially out there for guys. Let's let's talk 7:15 out there for guys. Let's let's talk 7:15 out there for guys. Let's let's talk about uh sexual dysfunction. Um there 7:18 about uh sexual dysfunction. Um there 7:18 about uh sexual dysfunction. Um there are dozens of FDA approved medications 7:22 are dozens of FDA approved medications 7:22 are dozens of FDA approved medications for men for erectile dysfunction. There 7:24 for men for erectile dysfunction. There 7:24 for men for erectile dysfunction. There are two FDA approved medications for 7:27 are two FDA approved medications for 7:27 are two FDA approved medications for women. U maybe three, but I think it's 7:29 women. U maybe three, but I think it's 7:29 women. U maybe three, but I think it's two uh FDA approved medications for 7:31 two uh FDA approved medications for 7:31 two uh FDA approved medications for women for female sexual dysfunction. 7:33 women for female sexual dysfunction. 7:33 women for female sexual dysfunction. That's a disparity. That's that's a 7:35 That's a disparity. That's that's a 7:35 That's a disparity. That's that's a pretty wide disparity. And you 7:37 pretty wide disparity. And you 7:37 pretty wide disparity. And you know, most of the people that I follow 7:40 know, most of the people that I follow 7:40 know, most of the people that I follow on social media that are talking about 7:41 on social media that are talking about 7:41 on social media that are talking about this topic that I'm interested in, a lot 7:43 this topic that I'm interested in, a lot 7:43 this topic that I'm interested in, a lot of times it's like an a female us 7:46 of times it's like an a female us 7:46 of times it's like an a female us against them, like females against men 7:48 against them, like females against men 7:48 against them, like females against men kind of a thing. And I really don't care 7:50 kind of a thing. And I really don't care 7:50 kind of a thing. And I really don't care for that. I just I think it's really 7:52 for that. I just I think it's really 7:52 for that. I just I think it's really important having been in this industry 7:53 important having been in this industry 7:54 important having been in this industry for so long to recognize that men are 7:57 for so long to recognize that men are 7:57 for so long to recognize that men are also very undertreated. Men are also 7:59 also very undertreated. Men are also 7:59 also very undertreated. Men are also very underserved. So this isn't really 8:01 very underserved. So this isn't really 8:01 very underserved. So this isn't really about like men have always had it better 8:02 about like men have always had it better 8:02 about like men have always had it better than women and that's got to change. No, 8:04 than women and that's got to change. No, 8:04 than women and that's got to change. No, it's not about men having it better. But 8:06 it's not about men having it better. But 8:06 it's not about men having it better. But what is true is that most of the 8:08 what is true is that most of the 8:08 what is true is that most of the research out there is about men. Most of 8:11 research out there is about men. Most of 8:12 research out there is about men. Most of the research out there doesn't even 8:14 the research out there doesn't even 8:14 the research out there doesn't even consider 8:16 consider 8:16 consider exploring menopausal disease because 8:19 exploring menopausal disease because 8:19 exploring menopausal disease because it's not a disease. 8:21 it's not a disease. 8:21 it's not a disease. That's yeah very very good point. Um, 8:23 That's yeah very very good point. Um, 8:24 That's yeah very very good point. Um, and you know, we've we've seen this so 8:26 and you know, we've we've seen this so 8:26 and you know, we've we've seen this so much over the years that guys also are, 8:29 much over the years that guys also are, 8:29 much over the years that guys also are, you know, having their own issues. We've 8:30 you know, having their own issues. We've 8:30 you know, having their own issues. We've done plenty of podcasts about it. We'll 8:32 done plenty of podcasts about it. We'll 8:32 done plenty of podcasts about it. We'll continue to do a podcast about it. Men 8:34 continue to do a podcast about it. Men 8:34 continue to do a podcast about it. Men in many, many ways are massively 8:36 in many, many ways are massively 8:36 in many, many ways are massively underserved as well. Yeah. So, it just 8:38 underserved as well. Yeah. So, it just 8:38 underserved as well. Yeah. So, it just but it happens to be that there's a 8:40 but it happens to be that there's a 8:40 but it happens to be that there's a bunch of pills and things and options 8:41 bunch of pills and things and options 8:41 bunch of pills and things and options for guys for for ED and for women. um 8:46 for guys for for ED and for women. um 8:46 for guys for for ED and for women. um whether they weren't advocating for 8:48 whether they weren't advocating for 8:48 whether they weren't advocating for themselves or it didn't seem like it was 8:51 themselves or it didn't seem like it was 8:51 themselves or it didn't seem like it was necessary. I or not even necessary, not 8:54 necessary. I or not even necessary, not 8:54 necessary. I or not even necessary, not that it wasn't possible uh to be able to 8:56 that it wasn't possible uh to be able to 8:56 that it wasn't possible uh to be able to help with it. I don't I don't know. I 8:58 help with it. I don't I don't know. I 8:58 help with it. I don't I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I guess probably 8:59 don't know. I mean, I guess probably 8:59 don't know. I mean, I guess probably that's that's a discussion in and of 9:01 that's that's a discussion in and of 9:01 that's that's a discussion in and of itself. I'm a little bit more along the 9:04 itself. I'm a little bit more along the 9:04 itself. I'm a little bit more along the party line and probably a lot of women 9:05 party line and probably a lot of women 9:05 party line and probably a lot of women are on the party line where if it is 9:08 are on the party line where if it is 9:08 are on the party line where if it is true that the uh medical community being 9:12 true that the uh medical community being 9:12 true that the uh medical community being predominantly at the time anyways um at 9:14 predominantly at the time anyways um at 9:14 predominantly at the time anyways um at the time what does that mean 9:15 the time what does that mean 9:16 the time what does that mean historically let's say it was 9:17 historically let's say it was 9:17 historically let's say it was predominantly men that they were not 9:19 predominantly men that they were not 9:19 predominantly men that they were not considering women's health as a priority 9:23 considering women's health as a priority 9:23 considering women's health as a priority because the women's suffering wasn't a 9:25 because the women's suffering wasn't a 9:25 because the women's suffering wasn't a priority or wasn't relevant or it was 9:27 priority or wasn't relevant or it was 9:27 priority or wasn't relevant or it was just a badge for them to bear and I 9:29 just a badge for them to bear and I 9:29 just a badge for them to bear and I think that's probably what a lot of 9:30 think that's probably what a lot of 9:30 think that's probably what a lot of women think and I I think there's a lot 9:32 women think and I I think there's a lot 9:32 women think and I I think there's a lot of truth to that. I think that has 9:33 of truth to that. I think that has 9:33 of truth to that. I think that has shaped where the money has gone. But 9:35 shaped where the money has gone. But 9:35 shaped where the money has gone. But let's say in the past 30 years, that's 9:38 let's say in the past 30 years, that's 9:38 let's say in the past 30 years, that's not the case. It's not about that. It's 9:41 not the case. It's not about that. It's 9:41 not the case. It's not about that. It's just about it's just about deficiency, 9:44 just about it's just about deficiency, 9:44 just about it's just about deficiency, period, across the board. So, let's not 9:47 period, across the board. So, let's not 9:47 period, across the board. So, let's not spend too much time crying about why it 9:49 spend too much time crying about why it 9:49 spend too much time crying about why it didn't happen before. I don't really 9:51 didn't happen before. I don't really 9:51 didn't happen before. I don't really think that's a good use of our energy. I 9:52 think that's a good use of our energy. I 9:52 think that's a good use of our energy. I think what we should be doing now is 9:53 think what we should be doing now is 9:54 think what we should be doing now is saying, "This is what we're feeling. 9:55 saying, "This is what we're feeling. 9:55 saying, "This is what we're feeling. This is what we're experiencing. How do 9:57 This is what we're experiencing. How do 9:57 This is what we're experiencing. How do I make it better now?" Well, that that's 9:59 I make it better now?" Well, that that's 9:59 I make it better now?" Well, that that's certainly the uh the proper way to kind 10:01 certainly the uh the proper way to kind 10:02 certainly the uh the proper way to kind of get things done. But let let me just 10:03 of get things done. But let let me just 10:03 of get things done. But let let me just put a caveat to that. No, we don't want 10:06 put a caveat to that. No, we don't want 10:06 put a caveat to that. No, we don't want to overly uh cry over spilled milk, but 10:10 to overly uh cry over spilled milk, but 10:10 to overly uh cry over spilled milk, but I do think it's important, and we've 10:12 I do think it's important, and we've 10:12 I do think it's important, and we've talked about this many times about the 10:13 talked about this many times about the 10:13 talked about this many times about the Women's Health Initiative. And the 10:15 Women's Health Initiative. And the 10:15 Women's Health Initiative. And the reason that I think it's important to 10:17 reason that I think it's important to 10:17 reason that I think it's important to always bring that up to say, yeah, if it 10:18 always bring that up to say, yeah, if it 10:18 always bring that up to say, yeah, if it wasn't for the Women's Health Initiative 10:21 wasn't for the Women's Health Initiative 10:21 wasn't for the Women's Health Initiative uh and the the incorrect association of 10:23 uh and the the incorrect association of 10:23 uh and the the incorrect association of estrogen uh to uh causing breast cancer 10:27 estrogen uh to uh causing breast cancer 10:27 estrogen uh to uh causing breast cancer that we probably wouldn't be in this uh 10:30 that we probably wouldn't be in this uh 10:30 that we probably wouldn't be in this uh predicament as much as we are in this 10:32 predicament as much as we are in this 10:32 predicament as much as we are in this past 23 odd years. Um that women would 10:35 past 23 odd years. Um that women would 10:35 past 23 odd years. Um that women would have stayed on estrogen and would have 10:36 have stayed on estrogen and would have 10:36 have stayed on estrogen and would have you know we've been able to understand 10:38 you know we've been able to understand 10:38 you know we've been able to understand this more and we wouldn't have had a 10:39 this more and we wouldn't have had a 10:39 this more and we wouldn't have had a generation that suffered. And the reason 10:41 generation that suffered. And the reason 10:41 generation that suffered. And the reason I'm saying it's important to say that so 10:43 I'm saying it's important to say that so 10:43 I'm saying it's important to say that so we don't go through these problems again 10:45 we don't go through these problems again 10:45 we don't go through these problems again because we went through that problem 10:47 because we went through that problem 10:47 because we went through that problem with the women's health initiative. We 10:48 with the women's health initiative. We 10:48 with the women's health initiative. We sure as hell went through that problem 10:50 sure as hell went through that problem 10:50 sure as hell went through that problem with COVID. I don't know it seems like 10:51 with COVID. I don't know it seems like 10:51 with COVID. I don't know it seems like all these podcasts we keep bringing up 10:53 all these podcasts we keep bringing up 10:53 all these podcasts we keep bringing up CO but it it's because it's about health 10:55 CO but it it's because it's about health 10:56 CO but it it's because it's about health and co was part of the reason why we are 10:58 and co was part of the reason why we are 10:58 and co was part of the reason why we are actually in this sort of waking up 11:00 actually in this sort of waking up 11:00 actually in this sort of waking up process that we've been in the past 11:01 process that we've been in the past 11:01 process that we've been in the past roughly 5 years. Um so it's important to 11:04 roughly 5 years. Um so it's important to 11:04 roughly 5 years. Um so it's important to bring that up to point the finger to say 11:07 bring that up to point the finger to say 11:07 bring that up to point the finger to say let's not repeat that. Let's learn from 11:09 let's not repeat that. Let's learn from 11:09 let's not repeat that. Let's learn from this process. That's fair. I mean, it's 11:11 this process. That's fair. I mean, it's 11:11 this process. That's fair. I mean, it's important to learn from history if 11:13 important to learn from history if 11:13 important to learn from history if history is being retold accurately. 11:14 history is being retold accurately. 11:14 history is being retold accurately. Certainly within medicine and in science 11:16 Certainly within medicine and in science 11:16 Certainly within medicine and in science because that's what they were 11:18 because that's what they were 11:19 because that's what they were bastardizing was the good name and good 11:22 bastardizing was the good name and good 11:22 bastardizing was the good name and good intention uh and and and institution of 11:25 intention uh and and and institution of 11:25 intention uh and and and institution of medicine and science. That's what got 11:27 medicine and science. That's what got 11:27 medicine and science. That's what got screwed up and we need to understand 11:28 screwed up and we need to understand 11:28 screwed up and we need to understand that to where we can continue to move 11:31 that to where we can continue to move 11:31 that to where we can continue to move forward and advocate for our own health 11:33 forward and advocate for our own health 11:33 forward and advocate for our own health and that of our community and and etc. 11:35 and that of our community and and etc. 11:36 and that of our community and and etc. So speaking of that, the advocate One of 11:38 So speaking of that, the advocate One of 11:38 So speaking of that, the advocate One of the best advocates out there right now 11:41 the best advocates out there right now 11:41 the best advocates out there right now uh is Dr. Mary Cla Haver. Um if you're 11:44 uh is Dr. Mary Cla Haver. Um if you're 11:44 uh is Dr. Mary Cla Haver. Um if you're at all following anything on social 11:46 at all following anything on social 11:46 at all following anything on social media regarding uh hormone replacement 11:48 media regarding uh hormone replacement 11:48 media regarding uh hormone replacement therapy, uh menopause, inevitably you're 11:51 therapy, uh menopause, inevitably you're 11:51 therapy, uh menopause, inevitably you're coming across uh Dr. Haver. um she was 11:53 coming across uh Dr. Haver. um she was 11:53 coming across uh Dr. Haver. um she was just recently on um Oprah, but she has 11:58 just recently on um Oprah, but she has 11:58 just recently on um Oprah, but she has this fantastic it's called a citizens 12:01 this fantastic it's called a citizens 12:02 this fantastic it's called a citizens guide to menopause advocacy and you can 12:04 guide to menopause advocacy and you can 12:04 guide to menopause advocacy and you can look this up and uh it's a multi-page 12:06 look this up and uh it's a multi-page 12:06 look this up and uh it's a multi-page document kind of going through various 12:09 document kind of going through various 12:09 document kind of going through various policies that they're pushing forward um 12:11 policies that they're pushing forward um 12:11 policies that they're pushing forward um and with another woman Jennifer Weiss 12:14 and with another woman Jennifer Weiss 12:14 and with another woman Jennifer Weiss Wolf who's a menopausal advocate and 12:16 Wolf who's a menopausal advocate and 12:16 Wolf who's a menopausal advocate and she's done she's been advocate for for 12:18 she's done she's been advocate for for 12:18 she's done she's been advocate for for other things um over the years. Um but 12:21 other things um over the years. Um but 12:21 other things um over the years. Um but what we'd like to do today is go through 12:24 what we'd like to do today is go through 12:24 what we'd like to do today is go through that particular uh document and the 12:26 that particular uh document and the 12:26 that particular uh document and the different policy goals that they uh have 12:28 different policy goals that they uh have 12:28 different policy goals that they uh have have put 12:30 have put 12:30 have put forth. So there's oh what is there about 12:32 forth. So there's oh what is there about 12:32 forth. So there's oh what is there about a uh six of them half dozen of them and 12:36 a uh six of them half dozen of them and 12:36 a uh six of them half dozen of them and uh also some legislation that they have 12:38 uh also some legislation that they have 12:38 uh also some legislation that they have right even here in Arizona. 12:40 right even here in Arizona. 12:40 right even here in Arizona. So policy goal number 12:43 So policy goal number 12:43 So policy goal number one, they're believing and we believe uh 12:45 one, they're believing and we believe uh 12:45 one, they're believing and we believe uh and that's why we're going all this. We 12:47 and that's why we're going all this. We 12:47 and that's why we're going all this. We support this um reset the record about 12:50 support this um reset the record about 12:50 support this um reset the record about menopausal hormone 12:52 menopausal hormone 12:52 menopausal hormone treatment. Um they're even saying 12:54 treatment. Um they're even saying 12:54 treatment. Um they're even saying contacting the NIH, the Office of 12:56 contacting the NIH, the Office of 12:56 contacting the NIH, the Office of Research on Women's Health, and tell 12:58 Research on Women's Health, and tell 12:58 Research on Women's Health, and tell them that you want to publicly
The Women's Health Initiative and Medical Dogma 13:00 them that you want to publicly 13:00 them that you want to publicly unequivocally reset the record um with 13:03 unequivocally reset the record um with 13:03 unequivocally reset the record um with this current understanding of the data. 13:05 this current understanding of the data. 13:05 this current understanding of the data. This is huge because so many people 13:08 This is huge because so many people 13:08 This is huge because so many people still don't know. They don't know. If 13:14 still don't know. They don't know. If 13:14 still don't know. They don't know. If you're not the only place I I've seen it 13:17 you're not the only place I I've seen it 13:17 you're not the only place I I've seen it is on social media, okay? Um if you're 13:21 is on social media, okay? Um if you're 13:21 is on social media, okay? Um if you're not following accounts that are wellness 13:23 not following accounts that are wellness 13:23 not following accounts that are wellness and health focused, and not everybody 13:25 and health focused, and not everybody 13:25 and health focused, and not everybody does, then you're not going to see this. 13:29 does, then you're not going to see this. 13:29 does, then you're not going to see this. So, it's extremely important that we 13:32 So, it's extremely important that we 13:32 So, it's extremely important that we command and demand a correction. Yes. 13:36 command and demand a correction. Yes. 13:36 command and demand a correction. Yes. You know, I think this is a good um I 13:38 You know, I think this is a good um I 13:38 You know, I think this is a good um I always bring this 13:40 always bring this 13:40 always bring this up. Dr. uh Machir um wrote a book called 13:44 up. Dr. uh Machir um wrote a book called 13:44 up. Dr. uh Machir um wrote a book called Blind Spots. Dr. Macker is actually on 13:47 Blind Spots. Dr. Macker is actually on 13:47 Blind Spots. Dr. Macker is actually on the committee with uh Make America 13:49 the committee with uh Make America 13:49 the committee with uh Make America Healthy Again. So, he with this recent 13:51 Healthy Again. So, he with this recent 13:51 Healthy Again. So, he with this recent report. We did our podcast uh about that 13:54 report. We did our podcast uh about that 13:54 report. We did our podcast uh about that recent report a little while 13:57 recent report a little while 13:57 recent report a little while ago and Dr. Macker is on this and so he 14:00 ago and Dr. Macker is on this and so he 14:00 ago and Dr. Macker is on this and so he wrote this book called Blind Spots and 14:02 wrote this book called Blind Spots and 14:02 wrote this book called Blind Spots and it's about medical dogma and how medical 14:06 it's about medical dogma and how medical 14:06 it's about medical dogma and how medical dogma dies hard uh and it creates this 14:09 dogma dies hard uh and it creates this 14:09 dogma dies hard uh and it creates this these false narratives and inevitably 14:12 these false narratives and inevitably 14:12 these false narratives and inevitably makes people suffer one way or another. 14:14 makes people suffer one way or another. 14:14 makes people suffer one way or another. Um and one of the things that he talks 14:16 Um and one of the things that he talks 14:16 Um and one of the things that he talks about is the women's health initiative. 14:17 about is the women's health initiative. 14:18 about is the women's health initiative. He's got a whole chapter specifically on 14:19 He's got a whole chapter specifically on 14:19 He's got a whole chapter specifically on that and he tells the story um and 14:23 that and he tells the story um and 14:23 that and he tells the story um and because he's interviewed the people that 14:24 because he's interviewed the people that 14:24 because he's interviewed the people that were part of this whole thing back in 14:26 were part of this whole thing back in 14:26 were part of this whole thing back in 2002 and the women's health initiative 14:29 2002 and the women's health initiative 14:29 2002 and the women's health initiative this massive study at the time in 2002 14:32 this massive study at the time in 2002 14:32 this massive study at the time in 2002 it had already been going on for about a 14:33 it had already been going on for about a 14:33 it had already been going on for about a decade and um in 2002 they were all of 14:38 decade and um in 2002 they were all of 14:38 decade and um in 2002 they were all of the scientists the principal 14:40 the scientists the principal 14:40 the scientists the principal investigators the PIs they all go to 14:42 investigators the PIs they all go to 14:42 investigators the PIs they all go to their annual conference and they meet in 14:44 their annual conference and they meet in 14:44 their annual conference and they meet in Chicago and uh they are all sitting 14:47 Chicago and uh they are all sitting 14:47 Chicago and uh they are all sitting there there's this key woman and this 14:49 there there's this key woman and this 14:49 there there's this key woman and this key doctor. I'm forgetting their names, 14:51 key doctor. I'm forgetting their names, 14:51 key doctor. I'm forgetting their names, but they were the ones that were part 14:53 but they were the ones that were part 14:53 but they were the ones that were part of propagating this idea of estrogen 14:56 of propagating this idea of estrogen 14:56 of propagating this idea of estrogen causing breast cancer. Anyway, they're 14:57 causing breast cancer. Anyway, they're 14:57 causing breast cancer. Anyway, they're standing behind the lectctor and they 14:58 standing behind the lectctor and they 14:58 standing behind the lectctor and they said, "We're scrapping the entire agenda 15:00 said, "We're scrapping the entire agenda 15:00 said, "We're scrapping the entire agenda agenda that you thought we were going to 15:01 agenda that you thought we were going to 15:01 agenda that you thought we were going to do and now we are going to launch this 15:03 do and now we are going to launch this 15:03 do and now we are going to launch this paper." And they hold the paper up and 15:05 paper." And they hold the paper up and 15:05 paper." And they hold the paper up and it says estrogen causes breast cancer. 15:07 it says estrogen causes breast cancer. 15:07 it says estrogen causes breast cancer. Uh they hand this paper to these 15:10 Uh they hand this paper to these 15:10 Uh they hand this paper to these principal investigators. They look at 15:12 principal investigators. They look at 15:12 principal investigators. They look at the data in the paper and said the data 15:16 the data in the paper and said the data 15:16 the data in the paper and said the data is wrong. There's something called 15:17 is wrong. There's something called 15:17 is wrong. There's something called confidence interval that they looked at 15:19 confidence interval that they looked at 15:19 confidence interval that they looked at and the confidence interval should 15:21 and the confidence interval should 15:21 and the confidence interval should actually be um and this is a little bit 15:24 actually be um and this is a little bit 15:24 actually be um and this is a little bit of statistics stuff and we've talked 15:25 of statistics stuff and we've talked 15:25 of statistics stuff and we've talked about these things before and written 15:27 about these things before and written 15:27 about these things before and written about it but and you can read about it 15:28 about it but and you can read about it 15:28 about it but and you can read about it in Dr. Mach's book but it should be 15:32 in Dr. Mach's book but it should be 15:32 in Dr. Mach's book but it should be either less than one or more than one. 15:35 either less than one or more than one. 15:35 either less than one or more than one. It shouldn't be both. So what happened 15:37 It shouldn't be both. So what happened 15:37 It shouldn't be both. So what happened was there was this very large what's 15:39 was there was this very large what's 15:39 was there was this very large what's called confidence interval. It is 15:41 called confidence interval. It is 15:41 called confidence interval. It is statistics 101. If you have a broad 15:45 statistics 101. If you have a broad 15:45 statistics 101. If you have a broad massive confidence interval, it's the 15:47 massive confidence interval, it's the 15:47 massive confidence interval, it's the data is crap. It's just it never in 15:51 data is crap. It's just it never in 15:51 data is crap. It's just it never in other words, it means you can't have 15:52 other words, it means you can't have 15:52 other words, it means you can't have confidence in the information. Correct. 15:54 confidence in the information. Correct. 15:54 confidence in the information. Correct. You can't have confidence whether it did 15:55 You can't have confidence whether it did 15:55 You can't have confidence whether it did or did not cause the cancer uh in this 15:58 or did not cause the cancer uh in this 15:58 or did not cause the cancer uh in this particular case was because the 15:59 particular case was because the 15:59 particular case was because the intervention was about looking for 16:01 intervention was about looking for 16:01 intervention was about looking for cancer. So you you couldn't and that was 16:03 cancer. So you you couldn't and that was 16:03 cancer. So you you couldn't and that was like right in the paper right there. So 16:05 like right in the paper right there. So 16:05 like right in the paper right there. So you've got these really brilliant 16:06 you've got these really brilliant 16:06 you've got these really brilliant scientists just know what they're doing 16:08 scientists just know what they're doing 16:08 scientists just know what they're doing and they just said, "No, this is wrong." 16:09 and they just said, "No, this is wrong." 16:09 and they just said, "No, this is wrong." Right? And then so they said, "Okay, 16:11 Right? And then so they said, "Okay, 16:11 Right? And then so they said, "Okay, we'll give you a little bit of time." 16:13 we'll give you a little bit of time." 16:13 we'll give you a little bit of time." This is standing right here happening in 16:14 This is standing right here happening in 16:14 This is standing right here happening in real time. We'll give you some time to 16:16 real time. We'll give you some time to 16:16 real time. We'll give you some time to uh you know do an addendum. So they all 16:19 uh you know do an addendum. So they all 16:19 uh you know do an addendum. So they all sat there and scrambled and started you 16:21 sat there and scrambled and started you 16:21 sat there and scrambled and started you know typing away on this quick addendum 16:23 know typing away on this quick addendum 16:23 know typing away on this quick addendum because they said we need to publish 16:24 because they said we need to publish 16:24 because they said we need to publish this thing. We need you know but you got 16:26 this thing. We need you know but you got 16:26 this thing. We need you know but you got a little bit of time. I don't know it 16:27 a little bit of time. I don't know it 16:27 a little bit of time. I don't know it was like they gave them minutes to do 16:29 was like they gave them minutes to do 16:29 was like they gave them minutes to do it. So 16:30 it. So 16:30 it. So they collated it all said okay just so 16:33 they collated it all said okay just so 16:33 they collated it all said okay just so everyone understands you know this is 16:35 everyone understands you know this is 16:35 everyone understands you know this is what the conference showed you know to 16:36 what the conference showed you know to 16:36 what the conference showed you know to where we can interpret this in the 16:38 where we can interpret this in the 16:38 where we can interpret this in the correct way. They finished. They handed 16:40 correct way. They finished. They handed 16:40 correct way. They finished. They handed it over to her and she went, "Sorry, the 16:43 it over to her and she went, "Sorry, the 16:43 it over to her and she went, "Sorry, the the courier already came. They've 16:45 the courier already came. They've 16:45 the courier already came. They've already printed it. Sorry." I mean, it 16:48 already printed it. Sorry." I mean, it 16:48 already printed it. Sorry." I mean, it was this, you couldn't make this stuff
Research, Education, and Access 16:50 was this, you couldn't make this stuff 16:50 was this, you couldn't make this stuff up. And so that was it. Then at that 16:53 up. And so that was it. Then at that 16:53 up. And so that was it. Then at that point, um, you were not allowed to 16:55 point, um, you were not allowed to 16:55 point, um, you were not allowed to disscent. And that's the big thing, too. 16:57 disscent. And that's the big thing, too. 16:57 disscent. And that's the big thing, too. And that's what I was saying earlier why 16:58 And that's what I was saying earlier why 16:58 And that's what I was saying earlier why I think it is important to bring these 17:00 I think it is important to bring these 17:00 I think it is important to bring these things up and point that finger so we 17:01 things up and point that finger so we 17:02 things up and point that finger so we don't repeat these kind of nonsense 17:03 don't repeat these kind of nonsense 17:03 don't repeat these kind of nonsense things again that creates um this dogma 17:08 things again that creates um this dogma 17:08 things again that creates um this dogma in medicine that inevitably leads to 17:10 in medicine that inevitably leads to 17:10 in medicine that inevitably leads to people suffering in this case women 17:12 people suffering in this case women 17:12 people suffering in this case women suffering for a generation treat yes 17:14 suffering for a generation treat yes 17:14 suffering for a generation treat yes without treatment. Again, we had 17:16 without treatment. Again, we had 17:16 without treatment. Again, we had mentioned in the previous episode or I 17:17 mentioned in the previous episode or I 17:17 mentioned in the previous episode or I had mentioned in the previous 17:19 had mentioned in the previous 17:19 had mentioned in the previous episode that estrogen replacement 17:21 episode that estrogen replacement 17:21 episode that estrogen replacement therapy is usually met by most 17:23 therapy is usually met by most 17:23 therapy is usually met by most individual women as a no until they 17:26 individual women as a no until they 17:27 individual women as a no until they become so uncomfortable or so ill that 17:30 become so uncomfortable or so ill that 17:30 become so uncomfortable or so ill that they explore alternatives. 17:33 they explore alternatives. 17:33 they explore alternatives. And it should be the opposite. All women 17:35 And it should be the opposite. All women 17:35 And it should be the opposite. All women should approach estrogen therapy with a 17:37 should approach estrogen therapy with a 17:37 should approach estrogen therapy with a yes and then go through a process of 17:40 yes and then go through a process of 17:40 yes and then go through a process of figuring out whether or not they are the 17:41 figuring out whether or not they are the 17:41 figuring out whether or not they are the candidate. And assuming they are, which 17:43 candidate. And assuming they are, which 17:43 candidate. And assuming they are, which is true for most women, what is the best 17:45 is true for most women, what is the best 17:45 is true for most women, what is the best therapy to follow? Policy goal number 17:48 therapy to follow? Policy goal number 17:48 therapy to follow? Policy goal number two, catalyze a modern equitable 17:51 two, catalyze a modern equitable 17:51 two, catalyze a modern equitable menopause research agenda. Um, so you 17:55 menopause research agenda. Um, so you 17:55 menopause research agenda. Um, so you know, more research and and and this is 17:58 know, more research and and and this is 17:58 know, more research and and and this is what we both wanted to say about this 18:00 what we both wanted to say about this 18:00 what we both wanted to say about this that there's already a lot of research. 18:02 that there's already a lot of research. 18:02 that there's already a lot of research. It's already been there. We have been 18:03 It's already been there. We have been 18:03 It's already been there. We have been talking about it for years. Um, I'm not 18:06 talking about it for years. Um, I'm not 18:06 talking about it for years. Um, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be more 18:08 saying that there shouldn't be more 18:08 saying that there shouldn't be more research because you always want to have 18:09 research because you always want to have 18:09 research because you always want to have contemporary research. But please 18:12 contemporary research. But please 18:12 contemporary research. But please understand that this stuff goes back 18:14 understand that this stuff goes back 18:14 understand that this stuff goes back decades. This is well established as as 18:16 decades. This is well established as as 18:16 decades. This is well established as as true, but it was a lot of that research 18:19 true, but it was a lot of that research 18:19 true, but it was a lot of that research of course was suppressed. It was just 18:21 of course was suppressed. It was just 18:21 of course was suppressed. It was just ignored uh across the board and now you 18:24 ignored uh across the board and now you 18:24 ignored uh across the board and now you know people are waken up and they're not 18:26 know people are waken up and they're not 18:26 know people are waken up and they're not ignoring it anymore. We're bringing it 18:28 ignoring it anymore. We're bringing it 18:28 ignoring it anymore. We're bringing it forward. Policy goal number three um 18:31 forward. Policy goal number three um 18:32 forward. Policy goal number three um update and then ultimately mandate back 18:34 update and then ultimately mandate back 18:34 update and then ultimately mandate back to what we were saying and mandate 18:35 to what we were saying and mandate 18:36 to what we were saying and mandate menopause education for providers. 18:37 menopause education for providers. 18:37 menopause education for providers. That's what needs to happen. Um, you 18:40 That's what needs to happen. Um, you 18:40 That's what needs to happen. Um, you know, uh, I would like to know that 18:42 know, uh, I would like to know that 18:42 know, uh, I would like to know that there was even more competition out 18:44 there was even more competition out 18:44 there was even more competition out there for us because there's people that 18:46 there for us because there's people that 18:46 there for us because there's people that know more and more about hormones 18:49 know more and more about hormones 18:49 know more and more about hormones because that's just going to help more 18:51 because that's just going to help more 18:51 because that's just going to help more people, more women. Um, so doctors do 18:54 people, more women. Um, so doctors do 18:54 people, more women. Um, so doctors do need to get educated on this. It needs 18:56 need to get educated on this. It needs 18:56 need to get educated on this. It needs to be educated at the level of the 18:58 to be educated at the level of the 18:58 to be educated at the level of the medical school. Um, not just within the 19:00 medical school. Um, not just within the 19:00 medical school. Um, not just within the specialties. It needs to just be sort of 19:02 specialties. It needs to just be sort of 19:02 specialties. It needs to just be sort of a basic understanding, but certainly in 19:05 a basic understanding, but certainly in 19:05 a basic understanding, but certainly in in in obstetrics and gynecology. Right. 19:07 in in obstetrics and gynecology. Right. 19:07 in in obstetrics and gynecology. Right. So that's what I was going to say that 19:08 So that's what I was going to say that 19:08 So that's what I was going to say that even within the specialties we've we've 19:11 even within the specialties we've we've 19:11 even within the specialties we've we've repeatedly expressed how obgyn surveys 19:16 repeatedly expressed how obgyn surveys 19:16 repeatedly expressed how obgyn surveys and endocrine uh surveys show that those 19:20 and endocrine uh surveys show that those 19:20 and endocrine uh surveys show that those specialists do not feel well trained or 19:22 specialists do not feel well trained or 19:22 specialists do not feel well trained or do not feel like they are masters and 19:24 do not feel like they are masters and 19:24 do not feel like they are masters and therefore not responsible for women's 19:26 therefore not responsible for women's 19:26 therefore not responsible for women's hormones. So who is taking care of 19:28 hormones. So who is taking care of 19:28 hormones. So who is taking care of women's hormones? That's a great point. 19:31 women's hormones? That's a great point. 19:31 women's hormones? That's a great point. Yeah, they they leave them out to just 19:33 Yeah, they they leave them out to just 19:33 Yeah, they they leave them out to just go figure it out and then or to figure 19:35 go figure it out and then or to figure 19:35 go figure it out and then or to figure nothing out, which has been what's been 19:36 nothing out, which has been what's been 19:36 nothing out, which has been what's been happening. But that's the majority of 19:37 happening. But that's the majority of 19:37 happening. But that's the majority of it. But some of them will continue to 19:39 it. But some of them will continue to 19:39 it. But some of them will continue to keep knocking on doors until they do and 19:41 keep knocking on doors until they do and 19:41 keep knocking on doors until they do and then they find places like us and there 19:43 then they find places like us and there 19:43 then they find places like us and there are uh many people uh that do what it is 19:47 are uh many people uh that do what it is 19:47 are uh many people uh that do what it is that we do uh and across the United 19:49 that we do uh and across the United 19:49 that we do uh and across the United States. So keep looking uh and and do 19:52 States. So keep looking uh and and do 19:52 States. So keep looking uh and and do not take no for an answer regarding all 19:54 not take no for an answer regarding all 19:54 not take no for an answer regarding all this. Yes, ultimately we need to demand 19:57 this. Yes, ultimately we need to demand 19:57 this. Yes, ultimately we need to demand that providers are getting this type of 20:00 that providers are getting this type of 20:00 that providers are getting this type of uh education. Policy goal number four, 20:02 uh education. Policy goal number four, 20:02 uh education. Policy goal number four, make menopause treatments affordable uh 20:04 make menopause treatments affordable uh 20:04 make menopause treatments affordable uh and accessible. And again, I would say, 20:07 and accessible. And again, I would say, 20:07 and accessible. And again, I would say, you know, our take is it already has 20:10 you know, our take is it already has 20:10 you know, our take is it already has been if you find you the these are 20:12 been if you find you the these are 20:12 been if you find you the these are affordable options. Um even what we wind 20:15 affordable options. Um even what we wind 20:15 affordable options. Um even what we wind up offering uh many of the things that 20:17 up offering uh many of the things that 20:17 up offering uh many of the things that we do are uh you know not the cheapest 20:20 we do are uh you know not the cheapest 20:20 we do are uh you know not the cheapest things in the world. It's but with that 20:23 things in the world. It's but with that 20:23 things in the world. It's but with that said um really really accessible. Yeah, 20:26 said um really really accessible. Yeah, 20:26 said um really really accessible. Yeah, I mean that one's that one's a challenge 20:28 I mean that one's that one's a challenge 20:28 I mean that one's that one's a challenge for me because I think that 20:30 for me because I think that 20:31 for me because I think that um most of these therapies that you and 20:33 um most of these therapies that you and 20:33 um most of these therapies that you and I recommend for our patients out of 20:35 I recommend for our patients out of 20:35 I recommend for our patients out of pocket are reasonable expenses. And I 20:39 pocket are reasonable expenses. And I 20:39 pocket are reasonable expenses. And I think it's a good podcast topic. I've 20:41 think it's a good podcast topic. I've 20:41 think it's a good podcast topic. I've talked about it before that I think we 20:43 talked about it before that I think we 20:43 talked about it before that I think we should talk about this notion of the 20:46 should talk about this notion of the 20:46 should talk about this notion of the Americans relying on health care 20:48 Americans relying on health care 20:48 Americans relying on health care insurance versus um having a stronger 20:52 insurance versus um having a stronger 20:52 insurance versus um having a stronger sense of of autonomy for their wellness. 20:55 sense of of autonomy for their wellness. 20:55 sense of of autonomy for their wellness. So, this one's a little bit more funny 20:58 So, this one's a little bit more funny 20:58 So, this one's a little bit more funny because one of the things that I like
Workplace Wellness and Corporate Support 21:01 because one of the things that I like 21:01 because one of the things that I like about it not being looked at closely is 21:03 about it not being looked at closely is 21:03 about it not being looked at closely is that there's not a lot of um rules and 21:07 that there's not a lot of um rules and 21:07 that there's not a lot of um rules and regulations making it difficult for 21:08 regulations making it difficult for 21:08 regulations making it difficult for small compoundingies to make it 21:11 small compoundingies to make it 21:11 small compoundingies to make it affordable, right? So, the fact that 21:13 affordable, right? So, the fact that 21:14 affordable, right? So, the fact that it's it's like no one cares about it's 21:15 it's it's like no one cares about it's 21:15 it's it's like no one cares about it's not popular, you know, like when there's 21:17 not popular, you know, like when there's 21:17 not popular, you know, like when there's a brand of a bag company that you really 21:18 a brand of a bag company that you really 21:18 a brand of a bag company that you really like and suddenly it gets picked up by 21:20 like and suddenly it gets picked up by 21:20 like and suddenly it gets picked up by some influencer and then the bea the bag 21:22 some influencer and then the bea the bag 21:22 some influencer and then the bea the bag becomes like four times more expensive 21:23 becomes like four times more expensive 21:24 becomes like four times more expensive than it used to be. that kind of a 21:25 than it used to be. that kind of a 21:25 than it used to be. that kind of a thing. I feel like that's what will 21:26 thing. I feel like that's what will 21:26 thing. I feel like that's what will happen with HRT, with compounded bio 21:29 happen with HRT, with compounded bio 21:29 happen with HRT, with compounded bio identical HRT. So, as it becomes more 21:31 identical HRT. So, as it becomes more 21:31 identical HRT. So, as it becomes more accessible, let it stay affordable. 21:34 accessible, let it stay affordable. 21:34 accessible, let it stay affordable. That's how I would reward uh reward 21:36 That's how I would reward uh reward 21:36 That's how I would reward uh reward that. 21:37 that. 21:37 that. That's uh a very very good point. You 21:41 That's uh a very very good point. You 21:41 That's uh a very very good point. You know, um like freaking birth control, 21:44 know, um like freaking birth control, 21:44 know, um like freaking birth control, everyone in their mother's on birth 21:45 everyone in their mother's on birth 21:45 everyone in their mother's on birth control. That's affordable. Very 21:47 control. That's affordable. Very 21:47 control. That's affordable. Very affordable. And insurance companies are 21:49 affordable. And insurance companies are 21:49 affordable. And insurance companies are covering that. So, it should be a 21:51 covering that. So, it should be a 21:52 covering that. So, it should be a similar concept. Then it's you're it's 21:54 similar concept. Then it's you're it's 21:54 similar concept. Then it's you're it's then defining what is affordable. 21:56 then defining what is affordable. 21:56 then defining what is affordable. Affordable sometimes, if not all the 21:59 Affordable sometimes, if not all the 21:59 Affordable sometimes, if not all the time, is related to value, meaning what 22:01 time, is related to value, meaning what 22:01 time, is related to value, meaning what does the patient value? Uh because when 22:04 does the patient value? Uh because when 22:04 does the patient value? Uh because when they value something, they go, "Okay, 22:05 they value something, they go, "Okay, 22:05 they value something, they go, "Okay, I'm I'm willing to do that." Um, and 22:08 I'm I'm willing to do that." Um, and 22:08 I'm I'm willing to do that." Um, and we've we've seen this with patients and 22:10 we've we've seen this with patients and 22:10 we've we've seen this with patients and and what a great example that we've used 22:12 and what a great example that we've used 22:12 and what a great example that we've used before on podcasts is what happened with 22:14 before on podcasts is what happened with 22:14 before on podcasts is what happened with eggs because we always were getting the 22:19 eggs because we always were getting the 22:19 eggs because we always were getting the best possible eggs because we valued 22:21 best possible eggs because we valued 22:21 best possible eggs because we valued that for ourselves and our health and 22:22 that for ourselves and our health and 22:22 that for ourselves and our health and our family, right? Um, so the eggs were 22:25 our family, right? Um, so the eggs were 22:25 our family, right? Um, so the eggs were already it's that that black box. I 22:26 already it's that that black box. I 22:26 already it's that that black box. I forget now the name of the Vital Farms. 22:28 forget now the name of the Vital Farms. 22:28 forget now the name of the Vital Farms. Vital Farms. Yeah, that's right. Um, and 22:30 Vital Farms. Yeah, that's right. Um, and 22:30 Vital Farms. Yeah, that's right. Um, and they were already around I don't know 22:32 they were already around I don't know 22:32 they were already around I don't know eight nine 10 bucks. And then when eggs 22:34 eight nine 10 bucks. And then when eggs 22:34 eight nine 10 bucks. And then when eggs went through the roof, um it we were 22:37 went through the roof, um it we were 22:37 went through the roof, um it we were already spending that much. It wound up 22:39 already spending that much. It wound up 22:39 already spending that much. It wound up actually making a lot of the 22:40 actually making a lot of the 22:40 actually making a lot of the conventional eggs more expensive. I 22:42 conventional eggs more expensive. I 22:42 conventional eggs more expensive. I think those other vital farms got eggs 22:43 think those other vital farms got eggs 22:43 think those other vital farms got eggs got a little more expensive, too. But it 22:45 got a little more expensive, too. But it 22:45 got a little more expensive, too. But it didn't really change all that much 22:46 didn't really change all that much 22:46 didn't really change all that much because we had already saw the value of 22:48 because we had already saw the value of 22:48 because we had already saw the value of that. So for us, it wasn't like, no, 22:50 that. So for us, it wasn't like, no, 22:50 that. So for us, it wasn't like, no, eggs are not 99 cents uh a dozen. 22:53 eggs are not 99 cents uh a dozen. 22:53 eggs are not 99 cents uh a dozen. They're they're about 8 n 10 bucks. 22:54 They're they're about 8 n 10 bucks. 22:54 They're they're about 8 n 10 bucks. That's just what it is for us because of 22:56 That's just what it is for us because of 22:56 That's just what it is for us because of the high quality that we saw. And that's 22:58 the high quality that we saw. And that's 22:58 the high quality that we saw. And that's just but using the same exact analogy, 23:01 just but using the same exact analogy, 23:01 just but using the same exact analogy, what I would like to see is that those 23:03 what I would like to see is that those 23:03 what I would like to see is that those high quality eggs don't have to cost me 23:05 high quality eggs don't have to cost me 23:05 high quality eggs don't have to cost me $89. So is the is the system is the 23:09 $89. So is the is the system is the 23:09 $89. So is the is the system is the support there in place if we're going to 23:11 support there in place if we're going to 23:11 support there in place if we're going to get policy involvement? is the support 23:14 get policy involvement? is the support 23:14 get policy involvement? is the support there in place to make a good quality 23:17 there in place to make a good quality 23:17 there in place to make a good quality product easier to manufacture, less 23:20 product easier to manufacture, less 23:20 product easier to manufacture, less expensive to manufacture so that we can 23:22 expensive to manufacture so that we can 23:22 expensive to manufacture so that we can have a variety of vendors that can 23:24 have a variety of vendors that can 23:24 have a variety of vendors that can afford to deliver this product and still 23:27 afford to deliver this product and still 23:27 afford to deliver this product and still be profitable but not so expensive for 23:29 be profitable but not so expensive for 23:29 be profitable but not so expensive for the customer. Yeah. 23:32 the customer. Yeah. 23:32 the customer. Yeah. Policy goal number five. Yeah. Make 23:34 Policy goal number five. Yeah. Make 23:34 Policy goal number five. Yeah. Make menopause treatments free of these 23:35 menopause treatments free of these 23:35 menopause treatments free of these outdated warning labels. uh you know 23:38 outdated warning labels. uh you know 23:38 outdated warning labels. uh you know they just uh removed at least on 23:40 they just uh removed at least on 23:40 they just uh removed at least on testosterone they they've removed the 23:42 testosterone they they've removed the 23:42 testosterone they they've removed the cardiovascular disease risk uh for 23:44 cardiovascular disease risk uh for 23:44 cardiovascular disease risk uh for testosterone products so outdated it was 23:47 testosterone products so outdated it was 23:47 testosterone products so outdated it was it was all nonsense it's cardiac 23:48 it was all nonsense it's cardiac 23:48 it was all nonsense it's cardiac protective it's just baloney so there's 23:51 protective it's just baloney so there's 23:51 protective it's just baloney so there's already those uh misleading kind of uh 23:54 already those uh misleading kind of uh 23:54 already those uh misleading kind of uh box warnings that they have even on 23:57 box warnings that they have even on 23:57 box warnings that they have even on local vaginal estrogen products you know 24:00 local vaginal estrogen products you know 24:00 local vaginal estrogen products you know so that's a good way to determine 24:01 so that's a good way to determine 24:01 so that's a good way to determine whether or not you're um aligned with 24:04 whether or not you're um aligned with 24:04 whether or not you're um aligned with your doctor's treatment approach if your 24:07 your doctor's treatment approach if your 24:07 your doctor's treatment approach if your doctor is saying things like, 24:08 doctor is saying things like, 24:08 doctor is saying things like, "Testosterone is bad for your heart." 24:11 "Testosterone is bad for your heart." 24:11 "Testosterone is bad for your heart." Yeah. Estrogen causes cancer. It's 24:13 Yeah. Estrogen causes cancer. It's 24:13 Yeah. Estrogen causes cancer. It's almost like when you're interviewing 24:15 almost like when you're interviewing 24:15 almost like when you're interviewing your doctor, you're meeting them for the 24:16 your doctor, you're meeting them for the 24:16 your doctor, you're meeting them for the first time. You should ask those two 24:17 first time. You should ask those two 24:17 first time. You should ask those two questions right out of the shoe because 24:19 questions right out of the shoe because 24:19 questions right out of the shoe because if they are giving you outdated 24:21 if they are giving you outdated 24:21 if they are giving you outdated information, they're going to do that 24:22 information, they're going to do that 24:22 information, they're going to do that for everything they recommend. That's 24:24 for everything they recommend. That's 24:24 for everything they recommend. That's right. Yeah, that's that's a that's a 24:25 right. Yeah, that's that's a that's a 24:25 right. Yeah, that's that's a that's a great screening tool right there. Policy 24:28 great screening tool right there. Policy 24:28 great screening tool right there. Policy goal number six, ensure meaningful 24:31 goal number six, ensure meaningful 24:31 goal number six, ensure meaningful workplace interventions. I thought this 24:32 workplace interventions. I thought this 24:32 workplace interventions. I thought this was uh really really interesting. the 24:35 was uh really really interesting. the 24:35 was uh really really interesting. the idea of corporate wellness is something 24:37 idea of corporate wellness is something 24:37 idea of corporate wellness is something we've uh worked with over the years as 24:39 we've uh worked with over the years as 24:39 we've uh worked with over the years as well. Um there's more of that. We're 24:42 well. Um there's more of that. We're 24:42 well. Um there's more of that. We're seeing uh more and more corporate 24:45 seeing uh more and more corporate 24:45 seeing uh more and more corporate wellness out there and just the 24:46 wellness out there and just the 24:46 wellness out there and just the corporate wellness market. It's 24:47 corporate wellness market. It's 24:47 corporate wellness market. It's massively growing. Um so that's kind of 24:49 massively growing. Um so that's kind of 24:49 massively growing. Um so that's kind of what that what that is. It's using um 24:52 what that what that is. It's using um 24:52 what that what that is. It's using um your workplace environment to be able to 24:54 your workplace environment to be able to 24:54 your workplace environment to be able to talk about menopause and get those 24:56 talk about menopause and get those 24:56 talk about menopause and get those treatments. We can certainly say that 24:57 treatments. We can certainly say that 24:57 treatments. We can certainly say that what's the advantage of the people who 24:59 what's the advantage of the people who 24:59 what's the advantage of the people who work for us um wind up getting treatment 25:02 work for us um wind up getting treatment 25:02 work for us um wind up getting treatment uh and then they feel better and then in 25:04 uh and then they feel better and then in 25:04 uh and then they feel better and then in the end they wind up uh being happier 25:05 the end they wind up uh being happier 25:05 the end they wind up uh being happier across the board. They're more 25:06 across the board. They're more 25:06 across the board. They're more productive uh with work just because 25:08 productive uh with work just because 25:08 productive uh with work just because they got some basic hormone treatment. 25:11 they got some basic hormone treatment. 25:11 they got some basic hormone treatment. Yeah. And um you know perhaps people 25:12 Yeah. And um you know perhaps people 25:12 Yeah. And um you know perhaps people won't like what I'm going to say but I 25:14 won't like what I'm going to say but I 25:14 won't like what I'm going to say but I think it's really important from a 25:16 think it's really important from a 25:16 think it's really important from a business perspective if you think of 25:18 business perspective if you think of 25:18 business perspective if you think of your employees as assets right um they 25:21 your employees as assets right um they 25:21 your employees as assets right um they are assets and you invest time and 25:24 are assets and you invest time and 25:24 are assets and you invest time and energy and money into molding them to be 25:28 energy and money into molding them to be 25:28 energy and money into molding them to be productive and missionaligned and and 25:31 productive and missionaligned and and 25:31 productive and missionaligned and and hopefully you get longevity out of that 25:33 hopefully you get longevity out of that 25:33 hopefully you get longevity out of that employment. Well, what is happening? 25:35 employment. Well, what is happening? 25:35 employment. Well, what is happening? Part of this idea of the glass ceiling 25:37 Part of this idea of the glass ceiling 25:37 Part of this idea of the glass ceiling that women face is that there are so 25:39 that women face is that there are so 25:39 that women face is that there are so many cognitive symptoms that come with 25:43 many cognitive symptoms that come with 25:43 many cognitive symptoms that come with being permenopausal. There is such a 25:45 being permenopausal. There is such a 25:45 being permenopausal. There is such a decline in mental and emotional 25:47 decline in mental and emotional 25:47 decline in mental and emotional stability and ability if you're not on 25:49 stability and ability if you're not on 25:50 stability and ability if you're not on hormone replacement. It behooves 25:52 hormone replacement. It behooves 25:52 hormone replacement. It behooves companies to invest in the wellness of 25:54 companies to invest in the wellness of 25:54 companies to invest in the wellness of their female employees because they are 25:57 their female employees because they are 25:57 their female employees because they are providing they are providing um expanded 26:01 providing they are providing um expanded 26:01 providing they are providing um expanded longevity for their asset that is an 26:04 longevity for their asset that is an 26:04 longevity for their asset that is an employee. 26:06 employee. 26:06 employee. I you know many people know or maybe you 26:09 I you know many people know or maybe you 26:09 I you know many people know or maybe you know or not but I used to uh do massage
Legislation and Call to Action 26:11 know or not but I used to uh do massage 26:11 know or not but I used to uh do massage therapy. I did that for years and one of 26:13 therapy. I did that for years and one of 26:13 therapy. I did that for years and one of the first jobs I had was a sort of 26:16 the first jobs I had was a sort of 26:16 the first jobs I had was a sort of corporate wellness massage therapy kind 26:18 corporate wellness massage therapy kind 26:18 corporate wellness massage therapy kind of thing and I would go around to uh all 26:21 of thing and I would go around to uh all 26:21 of thing and I would go around to uh all kinds of places of business right here 26:22 kinds of places of business right here 26:22 kinds of places of business right here in Phoenix and Scottdale and give chair 26:25 in Phoenix and Scottdale and give chair 26:25 in Phoenix and Scottdale and give chair massages uh and they would include that 26:28 massages uh and they would include that 26:28 massages uh and they would include that as part of their corporate wellness and 26:29 as part of their corporate wellness and 26:29 as part of their corporate wellness and there was all kinds of even back then 26:31 there was all kinds of even back then 26:31 there was all kinds of even back then research on showing how there was 26:33 research on showing how there was 26:33 research on showing how there was increased and improved productivity, 26:35 increased and improved productivity, 26:35 increased and improved productivity, decreased um sick days and all that just 26:37 decreased um sick days and all that just 26:37 decreased um sick days and all that just by you know having a once a week chair 26:39 by you know having a once a week chair 26:39 by you know having a once a week chair massage for 15 26:41 massage for 15 26:41 massage for 15 So, uh, yes, these kinds of corporate 26:43 So, uh, yes, these kinds of corporate 26:43 So, uh, yes, these kinds of corporate wellness makes a lot of sense. Take care 26:45 wellness makes a lot of sense. Take care 26:45 wellness makes a lot of sense. Take care of your employees. So, then finally, so 26:47 of your employees. So, then finally, so 26:47 of your employees. So, then finally, so that was the six policy goals right 26:49 that was the six policy goals right 26:49 that was the six policy goals right there. We just want to add that. Super 26:50 there. We just want to add that. Super 26:50 there. We just want to add that. Super good. Well done to the team. Well done 26:52 good. Well done to the team. Well done 26:52 good. Well done to the team. Well done to 26:53 to 26:53 to Dr. Absolutely. Um, 26:57 Dr. Absolutely. Um, 26:57 Dr. Absolutely. Um, there is there are bills and legislation 26:59 there is there are bills and legislation 26:59 there is there are bills and legislation and not just in Arizona. We'll talk just 27:01 and not just in Arizona. We'll talk just 27:01 and not just in Arizona. We'll talk just quickly about Arizona, but I encourage 27:02 quickly about Arizona, but I encourage 27:02 quickly about Arizona, but I encourage you to go through these links that we 27:04 you to go through these links that we 27:04 you to go through these links that we have here and check that out because you 27:06 have here and check that out because you 27:06 have here and check that out because you can see um a map of the United States 27:08 can see um a map of the United States 27:08 can see um a map of the United States where there are already there's bills 27:10 where there are already there's bills 27:10 where there are already there's bills that have already some of them already 27:11 that have already some of them already 27:11 that have already some of them already passed, some are in the process of 27:12 passed, some are in the process of 27:12 passed, some are in the process of passing that are about this very 27:14 passing that are about this very 27:14 passing that are about this very concept. But right here in Arizona, uh 27:17 concept. But right here in Arizona, uh 27:17 concept. But right here in Arizona, uh it's House Bill uh 27:18 it's House Bill uh 27:19 it's House Bill uh 2734. Uh this would enable healthc care 27:21 2734. Uh this would enable healthc care 27:22 2734. Uh this would enable healthc care providers with tools to educate women uh 27:24 providers with tools to educate women uh 27:24 providers with tools to educate women uh on the symptoms of pmenopause and 27:26 on the symptoms of pmenopause and 27:26 on the symptoms of pmenopause and menopause and createformational 27:28 menopause and createformational 27:28 menopause and createformational materials for that. So that's a first 27:31 materials for that. So that's a first 27:31 materials for that. So that's a first good step uh towards that idea of 27:33 good step uh towards that idea of 27:33 good step uh towards that idea of education right there at that that basic 27:35 education right there at that that basic 27:35 education right there at that that basic level of of of primary care, you know, 27:37 level of of of primary care, you know, 27:37 level of of of primary care, you know, and and other healthcare providers. So 27:40 and and other healthcare providers. So 27:40 and and other healthcare providers. So uh definitely check that out if you're 27:41 uh definitely check that out if you're 27:41 uh definitely check that out if you're in Arizona and check out whatever state 27:43 in Arizona and check out whatever state 27:44 in Arizona and check out whatever state you're in uh and and try to advocate for 27:46 you're in uh and and try to advocate for 27:46 you're in uh and and try to advocate for the sake of moving these kind of piece 27:48 the sake of moving these kind of piece 27:48 the sake of moving these kind of piece policies. I mean, if there's anything we 27:50 policies. I mean, if there's anything we 27:50 policies. I mean, if there's anything we learned from the America Health 27:52 learned from the America Health 27:52 learned from the America Health initiatives that we're seeing right now 27:54 initiatives that we're seeing right now 27:54 initiatives that we're seeing right now is that it really is the people. Yep. It 27:57 is that it really is the people. Yep. It 27:57 is that it really is the people. Yep. It really is your vote. It really is your 27:59 really is your vote. It really is your 27:59 really is your vote. It really is your voice. Really is where you spend your 28:01 voice. Really is where you spend your 28:01 voice. Really is where you spend your dollar. So, like you said, the maha 28:03 dollar. So, like you said, the maha 28:03 dollar. So, like you said, the maha moms. Yeah. The mah I mean it's the 28:05 moms. Yeah. The mah I mean it's the 28:05 moms. Yeah. The mah I mean it's the moms. It's it's the the frontline, the 28:08 moms. It's it's the the frontline, the 28:08 moms. It's it's the the frontline, the average folk. We are the ones making a 28:11 average folk. We are the ones making a 28:11 average folk. 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