Full Transcript Introduction u2014 the WOW Gathering explained 0:02 Welcome to the Wellness on Tap podcast 0:02 Welcome to the Wellness on Tap podcast with your host, Dr. Debs Eastwood.
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Red flags, abusive relationships and the gaps in education 0:10 >> The leaflet that came to me was about 0:10 >> The leaflet that came to me was about you and Ry and putting together 0:12 you and Ry and putting together 0:12 you and Ry and putting together something called WOW. Are you recording
Losing custody and the system's failure 0:16 something called WOW. Are you recording 0:16 something called WOW. Are you recording now? 0:17 now? 0:17 now? >> So, we'll talk about that first if 0:19 >> So, we'll talk about that first if 0:19 >> So, we'll talk about that first if that's all right. Would you like to talk
The first drink at 14 u2014 and why it felt like everything 0:21 that's all right. Would you like to talk 0:21 that's all right. Would you like to talk about the Wow Gathering first or would 0:22 about the Wow Gathering first or would 0:22 about the Wow Gathering first or would you like to know how that came about? 0:24 you like to know how that came about? 0:24 you like to know how that came about? >> Which is the best way for you to tell 0:26 >> Which is the best way for you to tell 0:26 >> Which is the best way for you to tell it? Um,
Back to the gathering u2014 refuges, rehabs and half price tickets 0:32 actually, now you've said that, I'll 0:32 actually, now you've said that, I'll just I'll just go with what what you 0:33 just I'll just go with what what you 0:33 just I'll just go with what what you said. Let's do it the other way around
Trapped emotions, somatic pain and cold water swimming 0:35 said. Let's do it the other way around 0:35 said. Let's do it the other way around instead of like having it linear, you 0:37 instead of like having it linear, you 0:37 instead of like having it linear, you know? Let's 0:37 know? Let's 0:37 know? Let's >> Yeah. Let's let's let's 0:38 >> Yeah. Let's let's let's 0:38 >> Yeah. Let's let's let's >> let's be let's Yeah. Um let's be a
Food, big pharma and the post-war plate 0:42 >> let's be let's Yeah. Um let's be a 0:42 >> let's be let's Yeah. Um let's be a rebel. So um the WOW gathering women 0:46 rebel. So um the WOW gathering women 0:46 rebel. So um the WOW gathering women only wellness gathering
Tribal living, community and the midlife catalyst 0:49 only wellness gathering 0:49 only wellness gathering um is a a gathering for predominantly
Closing reflections u2014 giving without expectation 0:54 um is a a gathering for predominantly 0:54 um is a a gathering for predominantly it's a business model for business women 0:57 it's a business model for business women 0:57 it's a business model for business women to showcase their ways to well-being. 1:01 to showcase their ways to well-being. 1:01 to showcase their ways to well-being. It's in a field uh in near North Allaton 1:05 It's in a field uh in near North Allaton 1:05 It's in a field uh in near North Allaton and it's a it's a campsite. So you have 1:07 and it's a it's a campsite. So you have 1:07 and it's a it's a campsite. So you have all the sh you have the showers there 1:08 all the sh you have the showers there 1:08 all the sh you have the showers there and it's set up with you know um 1:11 and it's set up with you know um 1:11 and it's set up with you know um electricity points. It has three pods 1:13 electricity points. It has three pods 1:13 electricity points. It has three pods there as well. We'd like to have more 1:15 there as well. We'd like to have more 1:15 there as well. We'd like to have more but we have three at the moment. We have 1:17 but we have three at the moment. We have 1:18 but we have three at the moment. We have um bell tents that are ours that we've 1:19 um bell tents that are ours that we've 1:19 um bell tents that are ours that we've been um we've been getting sponsorship 1:22 been um we've been getting sponsorship 1:22 been um we've been getting sponsorship for. 1:22 for. 1:22 for. >> Brilliant. 1:23 >> Brilliant. 1:23 >> Brilliant. >> Um so that women can stay overnight and 1:25 >> Um so that women can stay overnight and 1:26 >> Um so that women can stay overnight and then at the same time it's it helps us 1:28 then at the same time it's it helps us 1:28 then at the same time it's it helps us be sustainable. M 1:30 be sustainable. M 1:30 be sustainable. M >> um we have a a sun a sunset ceremony on 1:35 >> um we have a a sun a sunset ceremony on 1:35 >> um we have a a sun a sunset ceremony on the Saturday night. So it's on a hill 1:38 the Saturday night. So it's on a hill 1:38 the Saturday night. So it's on a hill with a stone circle. 1:40 with a stone circle. 1:40 with a stone circle. So it's not I know every time I say it I 1:43 So it's not I know every time I say it I 1:43 So it's not I know every time I say it I can't believe how lucky we are. Like 1:45 can't believe how lucky we are. Like 1:46 can't believe how lucky we are. Like every year I look forward to this. 1:47 every year I look forward to this. 1:47 every year I look forward to this. >> Yeah. I'm not surprised. It also keeps 1:49 >> Yeah. I'm not surprised. It also keeps 1:50 >> Yeah. I'm not surprised. It also keeps me going knowing that every year I'm 1:53 me going knowing that every year I'm 1:53 me going knowing that every year I'm going to see all these women that I've 1:55 going to see all these women that I've 1:55 going to see all these women that I've befriended and who are who are getting 1:58 befriended and who are who are getting 1:58 befriended and who are who are getting so much support from this gathering and 2:00 so much support from this gathering and 2:00 so much support from this gathering and throughout the year. 2:02 throughout the year. 2:02 throughout the year. >> Wonderful. So, I might jump about a bit 2:05 >> Wonderful. So, I might jump about a bit 2:05 >> Wonderful. So, I might jump about a bit because of my ADHD, but honestly, I'll 2:07 because of my ADHD, but honestly, I'll 2:07 because of my ADHD, but honestly, I'll become I come back to, you know, some of 2:10 become I come back to, you know, some of 2:10 become I come back to, you know, some of my conversations with with other neurody 2:12 my conversations with with other neurody 2:12 my conversations with with other neurody divergent are like the other day I was 2:15 divergent are like the other day I was 2:15 divergent are like the other day I was having a conversation with with a lady 2:16 having a conversation with with a lady 2:16 having a conversation with with a lady and um we were just walking through the 2:18 and um we were just walking through the 2:18 and um we were just walking through the park and we were both ADHD. So, it was 2:21 park and we were both ADHD. So, it was 2:21 park and we were both ADHD. So, it was like, right, okay. So, I'm going to jump 2:22 like, right, okay. So, I'm going to jump 2:22 like, right, okay. So, I'm going to jump to this one, jump to that. It's like, 2:23 to this one, jump to that. It's like, 2:24 to this one, jump to that. It's like, okay, I'll remember that one. I know 2:25 okay, I'll remember that one. I know 2:25 okay, I'll remember that one. I know you're going to come back. I know 2:26 you're going to come back. I know 2:26 you're going to come back. I know there's a reason why you're going round 2:27 there's a reason why you're going round 2:27 there's a reason why you're going round about. So the circle with the stones on 2:32 about. So the circle with the stones on 2:32 about. So the circle with the stones on has been there for a lot of years, but 2:33 has been there for a lot of years, but 2:33 has been there for a lot of years, but they're not Neolithic stones, 2:35 they're not Neolithic stones, 2:35 they're not Neolithic stones, >> but apparently they're on lay lines. 2:38 >> but apparently they're on lay lines. 2:38 >> but apparently they're on lay lines. >> Beautiful. 2:39 >> Beautiful. 2:39 >> Beautiful. >> So when you go up onto that stone 2:42 >> So when you go up onto that stone 2:42 >> So when you go up onto that stone circle, 2:43 circle, 2:44 circle, the spiritual shifts, 2:46 the spiritual shifts, 2:46 the spiritual shifts, I can't explain. And the views are 2:49 I can't explain. And the views are 2:49 I can't explain. And the views are amazing as well. So you have Rosebury 2:51 amazing as well. So you have Rosebury 2:51 amazing as well. So you have Rosebury topping to the right and it's just views 2:53 topping to the right and it's just views 2:53 topping to the right and it's just views for miles. 2:55 for miles. 2:55 for miles. It's just you sometimes I go up there 2:57 It's just you sometimes I go up there 2:57 It's just you sometimes I go up there and I just sit especially when 2:58 and I just sit especially when 2:58 and I just sit especially when everybody's in the workshops I'll go and 3:01 everybody's in the workshops I'll go and 3:01 everybody's in the workshops I'll go and I'll have because it takes a lot of 3:02 I'll have because it takes a lot of 3:02 I'll have because it takes a lot of energy all year to be 3:06 energy all year to be 3:06 energy all year to be >> to to get to create this 3:08 >> to to get to create this 3:08 >> to to get to create this >> and and and for it to 3:10 >> and and and for it to 3:10 >> and and and for it to >> and organizations 3:12 >> and organizations 3:12 >> and organizations uh organization organizes in the actual 3:15 uh organization organizes in the actual 3:15 uh organization organizes in the actual event. Um so so when the so when the 3:20 event. Um so so when the so when the 3:20 event. Um so so when the so when the event comes and they're all in their 3:21 event comes and they're all in their 3:21 event comes and they're all in their workshops cuz there's lots of workshops 3:23 workshops cuz there's lots of workshops 3:23 workshops cuz there's lots of workshops all day. It's all quiet cuz all in like 3:25 all day. It's all quiet cuz all in like 3:26 all day. It's all quiet cuz all in like bell tents and tents or I don't know um 3:28 bell tents and tents or I don't know um 3:28 bell tents and tents or I don't know um in the tepee cuz we have a tepee as 3:30 in the tepee cuz we have a tepee as 3:30 in the tepee cuz we have a tepee as well. Um and I go to the top of the 3:33 well. Um and I go to the top of the 3:33 well. Um and I go to the top of the circle I go wow wow which is why it's 3:35 circle I go wow wow which is why it's 3:35 circle I go wow wow which is why it's called we have wow moments which is why 3:37 called we have wow moments which is why 3:37 called we have wow moments which is why it's called wow as well and it's like 3:39 it's called wow as well and it's like 3:39 it's called wow as well and it's like wow look at this like this is just 3:41 wow look at this like this is just 3:41 wow look at this like this is just amazing. 3:43 amazing. 3:44 amazing. >> I can't I can't beautiful. 3:45 >> I can't I can't beautiful. 3:45 >> I can't I can't beautiful. >> Yeah. Um 3:48 >> Yeah. Um 3:48 >> Yeah. Um and the women who go all say we have 3:51 and the women who go all say we have 3:51 and the women who go all say we have lots of testimonies about it and and all 3:53 lots of testimonies about it and and all 3:53 lots of testimonies about it and and all the women who go say my life has been 3:56 the women who go say my life has been 3:56 the women who go say my life has been transformed. 3:57 transformed. 3:58 transformed. This has happened. This shift has 3:59 This has happened. This shift has 3:59 This has happened. This shift has happened. I didn't think it was going 4:01 happened. I didn't think it was going 4:01 happened. I didn't think it was going to. I was really worried about coming on 4:03 to. I was really worried about coming on 4:03 to. I was really worried about coming on my own, you know, but then everybody was 4:05 my own, you know, but then everybody was 4:05 my own, you know, but then everybody was so lovely because the women who go there 4:07 so lovely because the women who go there 4:08 so lovely because the women who go there all it's like finding your tribe. 4:10 all it's like finding your tribe. 4:10 all it's like finding your tribe. >> Yeah. 4:11 >> Yeah. 4:11 >> Yeah. >> So I think there's a lot about 4:13 >> So I think there's a lot about 4:13 >> So I think there's a lot about sisterhood out there, isn't there? and 4:15 sisterhood out there, isn't there? and 4:15 sisterhood out there, isn't there? and and and a lot of women are quite scared 4:17 and and a lot of women are quite scared 4:17 and and a lot of women are quite scared who I've spoken to about being in a 4:19 who I've spoken to about being in a 4:19 who I've spoken to about being in a group with a lot of women. Some have 4:20 group with a lot of women. Some have 4:20 group with a lot of women. Some have never been in a group with with just 4:22 never been in a group with with just 4:22 never been in a group with with just women and they're like, "Oh, I don't 4:24 women and they're like, "Oh, I don't 4:24 women and they're like, "Oh, I don't know about that." Or, "I don't know how 4:25 know about that." Or, "I don't know how 4:25 know about that." Or, "I don't know how I feel about that." Because their their 4:28 I feel about that." Because their their 4:28 I feel about that." Because their their experiences 4:30 experiences 4:30 experiences have not been what you're about to 4:32 have not been what you're about to 4:32 have not been what you're about to experience in the moral gathering. And 4:34 experience in the moral gathering. And 4:34 experience in the moral gathering. And we wouldn't have it any other way. And 4:35 we wouldn't have it any other way. And 4:35 we wouldn't have it any other way. And and the ones who don't want to come and 4:37 and the ones who don't want to come and 4:37 and the ones who don't want to come and don't want to do that don't come 4:38 don't want to do that don't come 4:38 don't want to do that don't come anywhere. Precisely. They self- select. 4:40 anywhere. Precisely. They self- select. 4:40 anywhere. Precisely. They self- select. >> Yeah. So it it it's and and during the 4:43 >> Yeah. So it it it's and and during the 4:44 >> Yeah. So it it it's and and during the year we have a group uh women only 4:45 year we have a group uh women only 4:45 year we have a group uh women only wellness gathering group. So part of the 4:48 wellness gathering group. So part of the 4:48 wellness gathering group. So part of the business women showcasing their ways to 4:50 business women showcasing their ways to 4:50 business women showcasing their ways to well-being we showcase them on the group 4:52 well-being we showcase them on the group 4:52 well-being we showcase them on the group as well which is the which is the 4:54 as well which is the which is the 4:54 as well which is the which is the Facebook group. So they'll all year they 4:59 Facebook group. So they'll all year they 4:59 Facebook group. So they'll all year they will be able to post what they're doing. 5:00 will be able to post what they're doing. 5:00 will be able to post what they're doing. So say they have um I don't know 5:02 So say they have um I don't know 5:02 So say they have um I don't know condolini 5:03 condolini 5:03 condolini um so uh this this particular 5:07 um so uh this this particular 5:07 um so uh this this particular facilitator will every time she's got 5:09 facilitator will every time she's got 5:09 facilitator will every time she's got something going on like a gong ceremony 5:11 something going on like a gong ceremony 5:11 something going on like a gong ceremony or she'll post it on there. 5:13 or she'll post it on there. 5:13 or she'll post it on there. >> Wonderful. Yeah. 5:14 >> Wonderful. Yeah. 5:14 >> Wonderful. Yeah. >> So she's targeting her audience as well 5:16 >> So she's targeting her audience as well 5:16 >> So she's targeting her audience as well and it's it's what the women want. Um, 5:19 and it's it's what the women want. Um, 5:19 and it's it's what the women want. Um, so there's never, so you're not left 5:21 so there's never, so you're not left 5:21 so there's never, so you're not left after the Wild Gather. You're creating 5:22 after the Wild Gather. You're creating 5:22 after the Wild Gather. You're creating relationships all the way every day 5:25 relationships all the way every day 5:25 relationships all the way every day talking. Sometimes I put silly things 5:27 talking. Sometimes I put silly things 5:27 talking. Sometimes I put silly things on, you know, just having fun and talk 5:29 on, you know, just having fun and talk 5:29 on, you know, just having fun and talk about we talk about, you know, um, are 5:33 about we talk about, you know, um, are 5:33 about we talk about, you know, um, are we feminists? I suppose we are, but we 5:36 we feminists? I suppose we are, but we 5:36 we feminists? I suppose we are, but we it's not that. Some people have said, 5:37 it's not that. Some people have said, 5:37 it's not that. Some people have said, you know, it's a women only wellness. 5:39 you know, it's a women only wellness. 5:39 you know, it's a women only wellness. What about the men? And it's like, well, 5:42 What about the men? And it's like, well, 5:42 What about the men? And it's like, well, you do have your spaces and all we're 5:43 you do have your spaces and all we're 5:43 you do have your spaces and all we're asking for. All not no, not all we're 5:45 asking for. All not no, not all we're 5:45 asking for. All not no, not all we're asking for. This is a thing we don't 5:47 asking for. This is a thing we don't 5:47 asking for. This is a thing we don't need permission. What we are doing is 5:49 need permission. What we are doing is 5:49 need permission. What we are doing is we're having a weekend away with with 5:51 we're having a weekend away with with 5:51 we're having a weekend away with with the women, you know, can it's amazing 5:54 the women, you know, can it's amazing 5:54 the women, you know, can it's amazing and and some you get some some men who 6:00 and and some you get some some men who 6:00 and and some you get some some men who are like don't understand that, but then 6:02 are like don't understand that, but then 6:02 are like don't understand that, but then there's a lot who do and they're our 6:03 there's a lot who do and they're our 6:04 there's a lot who do and they're our male allies who are amazing, you know, 6:06 male allies who are amazing, you know, 6:06 male allies who are amazing, you know, and I think the purpose of it is as well 6:09 and I think the purpose of it is as well 6:09 and I think the purpose of it is as well is is a lot of women have gone through 6:11 is is a lot of women have gone through 6:11 is is a lot of women have gone through trauma of some everyone's got a story of 6:13 trauma of some everyone's got a story of 6:13 trauma of some everyone's got a story of some sort, 6:15 some sort, 6:15 some sort, >> haven't we all? Yes. 6:17 >> haven't we all? Yes. 6:17 >> haven't we all? Yes. and just for a weekend if that's all you 6:19 and just for a weekend if that's all you 6:19 and just for a weekend if that's all you need once a year just to process some of 6:22 need once a year just to process some of 6:22 need once a year just to process some of your emotions, heal, connect, go to 6:26 your emotions, heal, connect, go to 6:26 your emotions, heal, connect, go to workshops. I mean there's so many ways 6:29 workshops. I mean there's so many ways 6:29 workshops. I mean there's so many ways and I think 6:32 and I think 6:32 and I think so I'm a co-founder of this of the of 6:34 so I'm a co-founder of this of the of 6:34 so I'm a co-founder of this of the of the women only wells gathering and my 6:36 the women only wells gathering and my 6:36 the women only wells gathering and my partner is a retired police officer 6:38 partner is a retired police officer 6:38 partner is a retired police officer called re Pearson. So she was involved 6:40 called re Pearson. So she was involved 6:40 called re Pearson. So she was involved in the domestic violence units in the 6:42 in the domestic violence units in the 6:42 in the domestic violence units in the police. she uh is an an advocate for 6:46 police. she uh is an an advocate for 6:46 police. she uh is an an advocate for women and we um we set this up just so 6:52 women and we um we set this up just so 6:52 women and we um we set this up just so that we 6:54 that we 6:54 that we we met through we met through I I'd kind 6:56 we met through we met through I I'd kind 6:56 we met through we met through I I'd kind of done a taster session and we met 6:58 of done a taster session and we met 6:58 of done a taster session and we met through that through through a friend 6:59 through that through through a friend 6:59 through that through through a friend who was a trustee of my charity. So I 7:01 who was a trustee of my charity. So I 7:02 who was a trustee of my charity. So I have a charity called track which is the 7:03 have a charity called track which is the 7:04 have a charity called track which is the recovery advocates and consultants UK. 7:06 recovery advocates and consultants UK. 7:06 recovery advocates and consultants UK. Now, I've been running that for 11 years 7:09 Now, I've been running that for 11 years 7:09 Now, I've been running that for 11 years and it morphed into a women's service 7:12 and it morphed into a women's service 7:12 and it morphed into a women's service pretty quickly. Even though, take it 7:14 pretty quickly. Even though, take it 7:14 pretty quickly. Even though, take it back further than that, when I was 7:16 back further than that, when I was 7:16 back further than that, when I was working in a men's prison on the therapy 7:18 working in a men's prison on the therapy 7:18 working in a men's prison on the therapy wing um as a 12step therapist, I was I I 7:23 wing um as a 12step therapist, I was I I 7:23 wing um as a 12step therapist, I was I I I was like, I need we need something for 7:25 I was like, I need we need something for 7:25 I was like, I need we need something for women. I just just kept coming into my 7:28 women. I just just kept coming into my 7:28 women. I just just kept coming into my head all the time. Um it needs to be and 7:30 head all the time. Um it needs to be and 7:30 head all the time. Um it needs to be and it's it's not hard for me to I know you 7:33 it's it's not hard for me to I know you 7:33 it's it's not hard for me to I know you got to prove a need, but there is a 7:34 got to prove a need, but there is a 7:34 got to prove a need, but there is a need. And I know from past personal 7:36 need. And I know from past personal 7:36 need. And I know from past personal experiences that that's what's needed. 7:40 experiences that that's what's needed. 7:40 experiences that that's what's needed. >> And I don't feel like there's no off 7:41 >> And I don't feel like there's no off 7:41 >> And I don't feel like there's no off enough of it. 7:44 enough of it. 7:44 enough of it. And we have so many barriers to healing. 7:47 And we have so many barriers to healing. 7:47 And we have so many barriers to healing. Okay. 7:48 Okay. 7:48 Okay. >> General life often is a barrier in 7:50 >> General life often is a barrier in 7:50 >> General life often is a barrier in itself, isn't it? 7:52 itself, isn't it? 7:52 itself, isn't it? >> So, so that so me so myself and re met. 7:56 >> So, so that so me so myself and re met. 7:56 >> So, so that so me so myself and re met. So I'll go back to the so the women only 7:58 So I'll go back to the so the women only 7:58 So I'll go back to the so the women only wellness gathering is yes for business 8:01 wellness gathering is yes for business 8:01 wellness gathering is yes for business women to showcase their way. They pay us 8:03 women to showcase their way. They pay us 8:04 women to showcase their way. They pay us to facilitate and then that money goes 8:07 to facilitate and then that money goes 8:07 to facilitate and then that money goes to our charities. So RI has got a 8:09 to our charities. So RI has got a 8:09 to our charities. So RI has got a community interest company called be 8:11 community interest company called be 8:11 community interest company called be kind to no excuses and that is that is 8:15 kind to no excuses and that is that is 8:15 kind to no excuses and that is that is targeted at teenage girls to look for 8:16 targeted at teenage girls to look for 8:16 targeted at teenage girls to look for the red flags in abusive relationships 8:19 the red flags in abusive relationships 8:19 the red flags in abusive relationships >> because there's patterns. Yes. 8:21 >> because there's patterns. Yes. 8:21 >> because there's patterns. Yes. >> And I'm not saying that all I mean have 8:25 >> And I'm not saying that all I mean have 8:25 >> And I'm not saying that all I mean have we all been in most a lot of women have 8:27 we all been in most a lot of women have 8:27 we all been in most a lot of women have been in abusive relationship of some 8:28 been in abusive relationship of some 8:28 been in abusive relationship of some sort. They come it comes in different 8:29 sort. They come it comes in different 8:29 sort. They come it comes in different guyses. I'm not saying it's the other 8:31 guyses. I'm not saying it's the other 8:31 guyses. I'm not saying it's the other way around, but I'm talking because it 8:32 way around, but I'm talking because it 8:32 way around, but I'm talking because it is, but I'm talking specifically about 8:34 is, but I'm talking specifically about 8:34 is, but I'm talking specifically about women. 8:34 women. 8:34 women. >> Yeah. 8:35 >> Yeah. 8:35 >> Yeah. >> Um, 8:38 >> Um, 8:38 >> Um, and yeah, I I sorry, I was just thinking 8:40 and yeah, I I sorry, I was just thinking 8:40 and yeah, I I sorry, I was just thinking about something RA said there cuz she's 8:42 about something RA said there cuz she's 8:42 about something RA said there cuz she's very about about 8:45 very about about 8:45 very about about men and women and and the violence and I 8:48 men and women and and the violence and I 8:48 men and women and and the violence and I won't go off track right now. I'll 8:49 won't go off track right now. I'll 8:49 won't go off track right now. I'll probably go back to that. 8:50 probably go back to that. 8:50 probably go back to that. >> That's fine. 8:51 >> That's fine. 8:51 >> That's fine. >> But there was a lot of um what was I 8:55 >> But there was a lot of um what was I 8:56 >> But there was a lot of um what was I saying? you were saying about the young 8:58 saying? you were saying about the young 8:58 saying? you were saying about the young people's the red flags and less charity. 9:02 people's the red flags and less charity. 9:02 people's the red flags and less charity. >> So 9:03 >> So 9:03 >> So yeah, maybe like if I if I was like a 9:06 yeah, maybe like if I if I was like a 9:06 yeah, maybe like if I if I was like a 16year-old or 15year-old, 12year-old 9:08 16year-old or 15year-old, 12year-old 9:08 16year-old or 15year-old, 12year-old even and I had an abusive relationship 9:11 even and I had an abusive relationship 9:11 even and I had an abusive relationship or or was about to have one, would I 9:14 or or was about to have one, would I 9:14 or or was about to have one, would I have seen the red flags then? No, 9:16 have seen the red flags then? No, 9:16 have seen the red flags then? No, because I didn't know about them. 9:18 because I didn't know about them. 9:18 because I didn't know about them. >> But if I did know about them, maybe it 9:20 >> But if I did know about them, maybe it 9:20 >> But if I did know about them, maybe it maybe maybe I would have listened. Maybe 9:23 maybe maybe I would have listened. Maybe 9:23 maybe maybe I would have listened. Maybe I wouldn't. But at least there's 9:26 I wouldn't. But at least there's 9:26 I wouldn't. But at least there's something there because for me there's 9:28 something there because for me there's 9:28 something there because for me there's no point in in in society saying that 9:31 no point in in in society saying that 9:31 no point in in in society saying that women should be educated or this is 9:33 women should be educated or this is 9:33 women should be educated or this is people but we're talking about women. Um 9:35 people but we're talking about women. Um 9:35 people but we're talking about women. Um and you must get this A level and that A 9:37 and you must get this A level and that A 9:37 and you must get this A level and that A level and go and do your degree, go and 9:38 level and go and do your degree, go and 9:38 level and go and do your degree, go and do your masters. What good is all that 9:40 do your masters. What good is all that 9:40 do your masters. What good is all that if you if it gets totaled and destroyed 9:43 if you if it gets totaled and destroyed 9:43 if you if it gets totaled and destroyed by your relationship that's toxic 9:46 by your relationship that's toxic 9:46 by your relationship that's toxic because that is that stays with you for 9:48 because that is that stays with you for 9:48 because that is that stays with you for years. There's a lot of healing that 9:50 years. There's a lot of healing that 9:50 years. There's a lot of healing that goes with that and you might never get 9:52 goes with that and you might never get 9:52 goes with that and you might never get back on track. 9:53 back on track. 9:53 back on track. So isn't it about I mean re is going to 9:57 So isn't it about I mean re is going to 9:57 So isn't it about I mean re is going to ask that question at this parliamentary 9:58 ask that question at this parliamentary 9:58 ask that question at this parliamentary session that she's going to and the 10:00 session that she's going to and the 10:00 session that she's going to and the question is like what are you going to 10:01 question is like what are you going to 10:01 question is like what are you going to do about that 10:04 do about that 10:04 do about that you know because there's not enough 10:05 you know because there's not enough 10:05 you know because there's not enough education 10:07 education 10:07 education >> around domestic violence substance 10:09 >> around domestic violence substance 10:09 >> around domestic violence substance misuse domestic violence leading to 10:11 misuse domestic violence leading to 10:12 misuse domestic violence leading to substance misuse so the pair of us 10:14 substance misuse so the pair of us 10:14 substance misuse so the pair of us >> and vice versa I guess 10:15 >> and vice versa I guess 10:15 >> and vice versa I guess >> and vice versa and can you see how it's 10:17 >> and vice versa and can you see how it's 10:17 >> and vice versa and can you see how it's all interacting between what me and re 10:19 all interacting between what me and re 10:19 all interacting between what me and re do and then the difficulty of getting 10:21 do and then the difficulty of getting 10:21 do and then the difficulty of getting funding over the years 10:23 funding over the years 10:23 funding over the years >> m 10:24 >> m 10:24 >> m >> creating our own wellness gathering 10:25 >> creating our own wellness gathering 10:26 >> creating our own wellness gathering which has taken a lot of years to even 10:28 which has taken a lot of years to even 10:28 which has taken a lot of years to even think about what was going to what where 10:30 think about what was going to what where 10:30 think about what was going to what where we were going to go and how we were how 10:31 we were going to go and how we were how 10:31 we were going to go and how we were how it was going to happen and but I'm a big 10:33 it was going to happen and but I'm a big 10:33 it was going to happen and but I'm a big believer in if people say if you got a 10:35 believer in if people say if you got a 10:35 believer in if people say if you got a business plan it's like not really not 10:39 business plan it's like not really not 10:39 business plan it's like not really not really know I just know that this is 10:41 really know I just know that this is 10:41 really know I just know that this is needed and it like you said before it 10:44 needed and it like you said before it 10:44 needed and it like you said before it just happens doesn't it? 10:45 just happens doesn't it? 10:45 just happens doesn't it? >> Yeah it does if it's meant to happen 10:46 >> Yeah it does if it's meant to happen 10:46 >> Yeah it does if it's meant to happen >> if it's needed it does cuz people go I 10:49 >> if it's needed it does cuz people go I 10:49 >> if it's needed it does cuz people go I need that I need that and that's what's 10:50 need that I need that and that's what's 10:50 need that I need that and that's what's happening. Yeah. So at the gathering 10:53 happening. Yeah. So at the gathering 10:53 happening. Yeah. So at the gathering then it says for a couple of days in a 10:55 then it says for a couple of days in a 10:55 then it says for a couple of days in a fabulous location outdoors so that 10:57 fabulous location outdoors so that 10:57 fabulous location outdoors so that everybody can be grounding and 10:58 everybody can be grounding and 10:58 everybody can be grounding and connecting with nature which is just 11:00 connecting with nature which is just 11:00 connecting with nature which is just wonderful isn't it? 11:02 wonderful isn't it? 11:02 wonderful isn't it? >> What sort of workshops could somebody 11:04 >> What sort of workshops could somebody 11:04 >> What sort of workshops could somebody expect that was going there? Okay so 11:07 expect that was going there? Okay so 11:07 expect that was going there? Okay so there's workshops that I couldn't even 11:10 there's workshops that I couldn't even 11:10 there's workshops that I couldn't even tell you what they are that this is the 11:13 tell you what they are that this is the 11:13 tell you what they are that this is the thing there's so many but I will say 11:15 thing there's so many but I will say 11:15 thing there's so many but I will say there's like drumming circles. 11:17 there's like drumming circles. 11:17 there's like drumming circles. I I just love that there something so 11:19 I I just love that there something so 11:20 I I just love that there something so tribal and so 11:21 tribal and so 11:21 tribal and so >> grounding and the music drumming circles 11:25 >> grounding and the music drumming circles 11:25 >> grounding and the music drumming circles gongs. 11:26 gongs. 11:26 gongs. >> Wonderful. 11:27 >> Wonderful. 11:27 >> Wonderful. >> Like at the ceremony we have a um over 11:29 >> Like at the ceremony we have a um over 11:29 >> Like at the ceremony we have a um over the last couple of years there's always 11:30 the last couple of years there's always 11:30 the last couple of years there's always been a gong at the top in the middle of 11:31 been a gong at the top in the middle of 11:32 been a gong at the top in the middle of the stones. 11:32 the stones. 11:32 the stones. >> Wow. 11:33 >> Wow. 11:33 >> Wow. >> And the sun's the sun's setting and 11:36 >> And the sun's the sun's setting and 11:36 >> And the sun's the sun's setting and everyone's all of the women are together 11:38 everyone's all of the women are together 11:38 everyone's all of the women are together in a circle at the top of the hill just 11:40 in a circle at the top of the hill just 11:40 in a circle at the top of the hill just being like unity. 11:43 being like unity. 11:43 being like unity. Um, 11:44 Um, 11:44 Um, so drumming, um, maybe raiki, maybe 11:47 so drumming, um, maybe raiki, maybe 11:47 so drumming, um, maybe raiki, maybe stalls with selling jewelry like this, 11:49 stalls with selling jewelry like this, 11:49 stalls with selling jewelry like this, this these stones and 11:52 this these stones and 11:52 this these stones and >> Oh, lovely. 11:53 >> Oh, lovely. 11:53 >> Oh, lovely. >> You know what I've got on? And 11:54 >> You know what I've got on? And 11:54 >> You know what I've got on? And >> beads. Um, and 11:59 >> beads. Um, and 11:59 >> beads. Um, and what else is there? 12:02 what else is there? 12:02 what else is there? Poetry as well. Journaling. Um, 12:07 Poetry as well. Journaling. Um, 12:07 Poetry as well. Journaling. Um, this is really funny. I don't know what 12:08 this is really funny. I don't know what 12:08 this is really funny. I don't know what to say this, but there's one There's a 12:09 to say this, but there's one There's a 12:09 to say this, but there's one There's a craft craft tent and she makes we crush 12:12 craft craft tent and she makes we crush 12:12 craft craft tent and she makes we crush your vaginas. 12:15 your vaginas. 12:15 your vaginas. I know. And then then they put them all 12:17 I know. And then then they put them all 12:17 I know. And then then they put them all around the tent like that and it's just 12:19 around the tent like that and it's just 12:19 around the tent like that and it's just that sounds really weird. I know. But it 12:20 that sounds really weird. I know. But it 12:20 that sounds really weird. I know. But it really good fun. Yeah. 12:21 really good fun. Yeah. 12:21 really good fun. Yeah. >> Because I think it's about just 12:24 >> Because I think it's about just 12:24 >> Because I think it's about just getting not having the barriers. You 12:26 getting not having the barriers. You 12:26 getting not having the barriers. You know, you've heard of these things where 12:27 know, you've heard of these things where 12:27 know, you've heard of these things where women are kind of painting and or skinny 12:30 women are kind of painting and or skinny 12:30 women are kind of painting and or skinny dipping where there's like let's just go 12:31 dipping where there's like let's just go 12:31 dipping where there's like let's just go that step further. Let's just like stop 12:33 that step further. Let's just like stop 12:33 that step further. Let's just like stop all of this worry about what we're 12:35 all of this worry about what we're 12:36 all of this worry about what we're doing. just try and like 12:37 doing. just try and like 12:37 doing. just try and like >> go beyond fear and just become your 12:40 >> go beyond fear and just become your 12:40 >> go beyond fear and just become your authentic self 12:41 authentic self 12:41 authentic self >> without all of these society telling you 12:44 >> without all of these society telling you 12:44 >> without all of these society telling you what you can do, what you can't do, what 12:45 what you can do, what you can't do, what 12:45 what you can do, what you can't do, what you can say, which is definitely big for 12:48 you can say, which is definitely big for 12:48 you can say, which is definitely big for women as well, isn't it? And how we need 12:50 women as well, isn't it? And how we need 12:50 women as well, isn't it? And how we need to be a certain way. And if we're any 12:52 to be a certain way. And if we're any 12:52 to be a certain way. And if we're any different, then we're rebellious or 12:54 different, then we're rebellious or 12:54 different, then we're rebellious or we're we're burnt at the stake as a 12:56 we're we're burnt at the stake as a 12:56 we're we're burnt at the stake as a witch. 12:56 witch. 12:56 witch. >> Absolutely. That happened to me at the 12:58 >> Absolutely. That happened to me at the 12:58 >> Absolutely. That happened to me at the Tower of London. 12:59 Tower of London. 12:59 Tower of London. >> You know what happened? 13:01 >> You know what happened? 13:01 >> You know what happened? >> Going going around there with my kids, 13:03 >> Going going around there with my kids, 13:03 >> Going going around there with my kids, do you know what I mean? Then you go 13:04 do you know what I mean? Then you go 13:04 do you know what I mean? Then you go walk go through the different rooms that 13:06 walk go through the different rooms that 13:06 walk go through the different rooms that tell the story 13:08 tell the story 13:08 tell the story >> um in the sort of Middle Ages and they 13:11 >> um in the sort of Middle Ages and they 13:11 >> um in the sort of Middle Ages and they pull people out at random from the 13:13 pull people out at random from the 13:13 pull people out at random from the audience to take part and they pulled me 13:15 audience to take part and they pulled me 13:15 audience to take part and they pulled me out to be burnt at the stake. 13:18 out to be burnt at the stake. 13:18 out to be burnt at the stake. >> I definitely was burnt at the stake 13:19 >> I definitely was burnt at the stake 13:19 >> I definitely was burnt at the stake >> which I thought was hilarious. 13:20 >> which I thought was hilarious. 13:20 >> which I thought was hilarious. >> I've even got a tattoo here. Look. 13:22 >> I've even got a tattoo here. Look. 13:22 >> I've even got a tattoo here. Look. >> So that's and and she's not a witch, is 13:24 >> So that's and and she's not a witch, is 13:24 >> So that's and and she's not a witch, is she? She's a woman. 13:26 she? She's a woman. 13:26 she? She's a woman. >> A woman who has a a voice and was 13:29 >> A woman who has a a voice and was 13:29 >> A woman who has a a voice and was probably a healer. 13:30 probably a healer. 13:30 probably a healer. >> Yeah. and she was so she was burnt at 13:32 >> Yeah. and she was so she was burnt at 13:32 >> Yeah. and she was so she was burnt at the stick and then she's smoking a 13:33 the stick and then she's smoking a 13:33 the stick and then she's smoking a cigarette. So basically saying like [ __ ] 13:35 cigarette. So basically saying like [ __ ] 13:35 cigarette. So basically saying like [ __ ] you. 13:36 you. 13:36 you. >> Yeah. 13:38 >> Yeah. 13:38 >> Yeah. Nice. 13:40 Nice. 13:40 Nice. So all sorts of things that it sounds 13:42 So all sorts of things that it sounds 13:42 So all sorts of things that it sounds like these workshops are quite diverse 13:45 like these workshops are quite diverse 13:45 like these workshops are quite diverse which is exactly what you need, isn't 13:46 which is exactly what you need, isn't 13:46 which is exactly what you need, isn't it? Because there is no oneizefits-all, 13:49 it? Because there is no oneizefits-all, 13:49 it? Because there is no oneizefits-all, is there? 13:49 is there? 13:49 is there? >> And that and that has come from so I'll 13:51 >> And that and that has come from so I'll 13:52 >> And that and that has come from so I'll go back a bit. So that's come from so 13:55 go back a bit. So that's come from so 13:55 go back a bit. So that's come from so I'm in recovery from drug drug addiction 13:57 I'm in recovery from drug drug addiction 13:57 I'm in recovery from drug drug addiction and alcoholism and I'm 16 years in 14:00 and alcoholism and I'm 16 years in 14:00 and alcoholism and I'm 16 years in recovery now. Congratulations 14:03 recovery now. Congratulations 14:03 recovery now. Congratulations >> recovery recovered. I don't care as you 14:06 >> recovery recovered. I don't care as you 14:06 >> recovery recovered. I don't care as you know I I don't believe in people box 14:10 know I I don't believe in people box 14:10 know I I don't believe in people box putting you in boxes 14:13 putting you in boxes 14:13 putting you in boxes or so my experience is that when I found 14:18 or so my experience is that when I found 14:18 or so my experience is that when I found recovery I know again I'm not going into 14:19 recovery I know again I'm not going into 14:19 recovery I know again I'm not going into the past too much but when I found 14:21 the past too much but when I found 14:21 the past too much but when I found recovery yes it was 12step meeting that 14:23 recovery yes it was 12step meeting that 14:23 recovery yes it was 12step meeting that I found 14:24 I found 14:24 I found >> and and and I'm really grateful for that 14:27 >> and and and I'm really grateful for that 14:27 >> and and and I'm really grateful for that like I really am because it's a great 14:30 like I really am because it's a great 14:30 like I really am because it's a great grounding educational 14:33 grounding educational 14:33 grounding educational lifesaver 14:34 lifesaver 14:34 lifesaver Yeah. 14:37 Yeah. 14:37 Yeah. And 14:38 And 14:38 And and I was in there for quite a lot of 14:40 and I was in there for quite a lot of 14:40 and I was in there for quite a lot of years. 14:42 years. 14:42 years. Um I still have a tattoo on here. Your 14:45 Um I still have a tattoo on here. Your 14:45 Um I still have a tattoo on here. Your will, not mine. Sort of kind of stepping 14:47 will, not mine. Sort of kind of stepping 14:47 will, not mine. Sort of kind of stepping out your own way. 14:49 out your own way. 14:50 out your own way. But there was no other option for me at 14:52 But there was no other option for me at 14:52 But there was no other option for me at that time but to go into that 12step 14:54 that time but to go into that 12step 14:54 that time but to go into that 12step program. 14:55 program. 14:56 program. And during the time that I was in that 14:58 And during the time that I was in that 14:58 And during the time that I was in that program, I saw a lot of women come and 15:00 program, I saw a lot of women come and 15:00 program, I saw a lot of women come and go. There's a lot in there. there's a 15:02 go. There's a lot in there. there's a 15:02 go. There's a lot in there. there's a lot more men I would say. Um, 15:07 lot more men I would say. Um, 15:07 lot more men I would say. Um, but it's it's a malefounded program as 15:09 but it's it's a malefounded program as 15:09 but it's it's a malefounded program as well. And I think what I'm trying to say 15:12 well. And I think what I'm trying to say 15:12 well. And I think what I'm trying to say is that although it's amazing and all 15:14 is that although it's amazing and all 15:14 is that although it's amazing and all there's a lot of thing I I'm look I I 15:17 there's a lot of thing I I'm look I I 15:17 there's a lot of thing I I'm look I I believe in choice 15:19 believe in choice 15:19 believe in choice >> because for some women they'll go into 15:21 >> because for some women they'll go into 15:21 >> because for some women they'll go into those rooms and they'll say it's not for 15:24 those rooms and they'll say it's not for 15:24 those rooms and they'll say it's not for me. I don't like it or they feel 15:25 me. I don't like it or they feel 15:25 me. I don't like it or they feel intimidated by the the male presence. 15:28 intimidated by the the male presence. 15:28 intimidated by the the male presence. Right. And obviously men and women, you 15:31 Right. And obviously men and women, you 15:31 Right. And obviously men and women, you know, we we we I think the ultimate is 15:33 know, we we we I think the ultimate is 15:33 know, we we we I think the ultimate is living together and and we'll all be 15:35 living together and and we'll all be 15:35 living together and and we'll all be happy ever after, but I think there's a 15:37 happy ever after, but I think there's a 15:37 happy ever after, but I think there's a lot of healing on both sides. 15:38 lot of healing on both sides. 15:38 lot of healing on both sides. >> And this is why I think that women only 15:41 >> And this is why I think that women only 15:41 >> And this is why I think that women only safe spaces are really important. I'm 15:44 safe spaces are really important. I'm 15:44 safe spaces are really important. I'm not saying that mixed aren't important. 15:46 not saying that mixed aren't important. 15:46 not saying that mixed aren't important. >> Yeah, I hear you. But I I believe that 15:48 >> Yeah, I hear you. But I I believe that 15:48 >> Yeah, I hear you. But I I believe that we should especially 15:50 we should especially 15:50 we should especially the trauma side because a lot so in my 15:53 the trauma side because a lot so in my 15:53 the trauma side because a lot so in my addiction there's been a lot of not 15:55 addiction there's been a lot of not 15:55 addiction there's been a lot of not knowing myself 15:57 knowing myself 15:57 knowing myself >> um you know and I hear a lot of women 15:58 >> um you know and I hear a lot of women 15:58 >> um you know and I hear a lot of women the same um 16:02 the same um 16:02 the same um it being easily led by men 16:05 it being easily led by men 16:05 it being easily led by men um being told that cuz I had a I had a 16:08 um being told that cuz I had a I had a 16:08 um being told that cuz I had a I had a child being told that if I went to get 16:10 child being told that if I went to get 16:10 child being told that if I went to get help from services that they would take 16:11 help from services that they would take 16:11 help from services that they would take my child off me you know that that in 16:15 my child off me you know that that in 16:15 my child off me you know that that in itself would stop me. Yeah, 16:17 itself would stop me. Yeah, 16:17 itself would stop me. Yeah, >> domestic abuse. 16:19 >> domestic abuse. 16:19 >> domestic abuse. As soon as you go into the services and 16:21 As soon as you go into the services and 16:21 As soon as you go into the services and it has to be that way within the 16:24 it has to be that way within the 16:24 it has to be that way within the services that they'll say apparently 16:27 services that they'll say apparently 16:27 services that they'll say apparently then they'll say like you know okay so 16:28 then they'll say like you know okay so 16:28 then they'll say like you know okay so what's your drug of ster you know they 16:31 what's your drug of ster you know they 16:31 what's your drug of ster you know they have assessments 16:32 have assessments 16:32 have assessments but in that assessment is who's got the 16:34 but in that assessment is who's got the 16:34 but in that assessment is who's got the children. 16:35 children. 16:35 children. >> Mhm. 16:35 >> Mhm. 16:35 >> Mhm. >> And I understand safeguarding. 16:37 >> And I understand safeguarding. 16:37 >> And I understand safeguarding. >> Yes, 16:38 >> Yes, 16:38 >> Yes, >> of course. But what does that do to that 16:40 >> of course. But what does that do to that 16:40 >> of course. But what does that do to that lady in a lot of the cases? They ain't 16:42 lady in a lot of the cases? They ain't 16:42 lady in a lot of the cases? They ain't coming back cuz they're so scared that 16:44 coming back cuz they're so scared that 16:44 coming back cuz they're so scared that you're going to take the child off them. 16:46 you're going to take the child off them. 16:46 you're going to take the child off them. Yeah, 16:47 Yeah, 16:47 Yeah, sever the child off them. And it is that 16:51 sever the child off them. And it is that 16:51 sever the child off them. And it is that serious. Um, so where is this long-term 16:55 serious. Um, so where is this long-term 16:55 serious. Um, so where is this long-term keeping the child with the with the 16:56 keeping the child with the with the 16:56 keeping the child with the with the parent and and keeping it all together? 16:58 parent and and keeping it all together? 16:58 parent and and keeping it all together? I understand that in some cases it's 17:00 I understand that in some cases it's 17:00 I understand that in some cases it's it's 17:01 it's 17:01 it's really important to to, you know, it's 17:05 really important to to, you know, it's 17:05 really important to to, you know, it's gone far and the children are, you know, 17:08 gone far and the children are, you know, 17:08 gone far and the children are, you know, need to be removed or whatever. And I 17:10 need to be removed or whatever. And I 17:10 need to be removed or whatever. And I get that. Yeah, there are times it's the 17:12 get that. Yeah, there are times it's the 17:12 get that. Yeah, there are times it's the safest and the best thing to do. 17:14 safest and the best thing to do. 17:14 safest and the best thing to do. Hopefully temporarily this the situation 17:17 Hopefully temporarily this the situation 17:17 Hopefully temporarily this the situation will resolve. 17:18 will resolve. 17:18 will resolve. >> But what I and I'm going to be bold 17:19 >> But what I and I'm going to be bold 17:20 >> But what I and I'm going to be bold about this cuz I was listening to a 17:21 about this cuz I was listening to a 17:21 about this cuz I was listening to a podcast on the way here and it was about 17:22 podcast on the way here and it was about 17:22 podcast on the way here and it was about being like 50. 17:25 being like 50. 17:25 being like 50. >> Now I'm not giving a a [ __ ] about what I 17:27 >> Now I'm not giving a a [ __ ] about what I 17:27 >> Now I'm not giving a a [ __ ] about what I say. Mind you, I never have done because 17:28 say. Mind you, I never have done because 17:28 say. Mind you, I never have done because it's how I see it. It's my truth and 17:31 it's how I see it. It's my truth and 17:31 it's how I see it. It's my truth and it's my experience and no one can take 17:32 it's my experience and no one can take 17:32 it's my experience and no one can take that away from me. No matter how people 17:34 that away from me. No matter how people 17:34 that away from me. No matter how people can wrap it up saying, well, this isn't 17:36 can wrap it up saying, well, this isn't 17:36 can wrap it up saying, well, this isn't the case and oh, we've tried to do this 17:38 the case and oh, we've tried to do this 17:38 the case and oh, we've tried to do this and do you know what? No, that's not my 17:40 and do you know what? No, that's not my 17:40 and do you know what? No, that's not my truth. And when I speak to a lot of 17:42 truth. And when I speak to a lot of 17:42 truth. And when I speak to a lot of other women who've been in my situation, 17:45 other women who've been in my situation, 17:45 other women who've been in my situation, um, and another woman who's a professor 17:48 um, and another woman who's a professor 17:48 um, and another woman who's a professor called Dr. Sue Robson, who has a place 17:51 called Dr. Sue Robson, who has a place 17:51 called Dr. Sue Robson, who has a place called Tina's Haven, uh, her daughter, 17:54 called Tina's Haven, uh, her daughter, 17:54 called Tina's Haven, uh, her daughter, uh, it was around her daughter dying of 17:56 uh, it was around her daughter dying of 17:56 uh, it was around her daughter dying of drug addiction and and and children 17:58 drug addiction and and and children 17:58 drug addiction and and and children getting taken away. And there's so many 18:00 getting taken away. And there's so many 18:00 getting taken away. And there's so many women involved in that that they're 18:02 women involved in that that they're 18:02 women involved in that that they're failing to realize like how how 18:05 failing to realize like how how 18:05 failing to realize like how how destructive that is. Um, and the only 18:08 destructive that is. Um, and the only 18:08 destructive that is. Um, and the only thing that when that happened to me, I 18:10 thing that when that happened to me, I 18:10 thing that when that happened to me, I was in front of the social services, the 18:12 was in front of the social services, the 18:12 was in front of the social services, the police, had I was had a violent 18:15 police, had I was had a violent 18:15 police, had I was had a violent relationship at the time. Um, I didn't 18:18 relationship at the time. Um, I didn't 18:18 relationship at the time. Um, I didn't have a good relationship with my mom. 18:20 have a good relationship with my mom. 18:20 have a good relationship with my mom. >> All of these things I'm just saying a 18:21 >> All of these things I'm just saying a 18:21 >> All of these things I'm just saying a fact for whatever reasons that that 18:23 fact for whatever reasons that that 18:24 fact for whatever reasons that that that's what was happening at the time. 18:26 that's what was happening at the time. 18:26 that's what was happening at the time. And I've did I felt while I was in those 18:29 And I've did I felt while I was in those 18:29 And I've did I felt while I was in those meetings, I had no voice. 18:31 meetings, I had no voice. 18:31 meetings, I had no voice. >> Ah, okay. 18:32 >> Ah, okay. 18:32 >> Ah, okay. >> That was very vulnerable. 18:35 >> That was very vulnerable. 18:35 >> That was very vulnerable. No one cared about my opinion at all. 18:38 No one cared about my opinion at all. 18:38 No one cared about my opinion at all. But as soon but the social services 18:40 But as soon but the social services 18:40 But as soon but the social services really do care about what people think 18:41 really do care about what people think 18:41 really do care about what people think about them and what they're having to do 18:43 about them and what they're having to do 18:43 about them and what they're having to do and they have to make sure that they're 18:44 and they have to make sure that they're 18:44 and they have to make sure that they're ticking their boxes. So if then if my 18:47 ticking their boxes. So if then if my 18:47 ticking their boxes. So if then if my mother decides to step up and say I'll 18:49 mother decides to step up and say I'll 18:49 mother decides to step up and say I'll take the child and I' I can bring that 18:51 take the child and I' I can bring that 18:51 take the child and I' I can bring that child up 18:54 child up 18:54 child up then that was okay with them 18:57 then that was okay with them 18:57 then that was okay with them and I was left to and I really cannot 18:59 and I was left to and I really cannot 18:59 and I was left to and I really cannot remember getting offered any support. It 19:01 remember getting offered any support. It 19:01 remember getting offered any support. It was a case of do you know what? I'm just 19:04 was a case of do you know what? I'm just 19:04 was a case of do you know what? I'm just going to take more drugs now. Now I'm 19:06 going to take more drugs now. Now I'm 19:06 going to take more drugs now. Now I'm not a mother anymore. Now I don't have 19:09 not a mother anymore. Now I don't have 19:09 not a mother anymore. Now I don't have an identity. 19:11 an identity. 19:11 an identity. So now what do you expect me to do? 19:13 So now what do you expect me to do? 19:13 So now what do you expect me to do? >> Now I don't have anybody to try and stay 19:14 >> Now I don't have anybody to try and stay 19:14 >> Now I don't have anybody to try and stay clean for. You've just taken everything 19:17 clean for. You've just taken everything 19:17 clean for. You've just taken everything away from me as if I don't matter. I'm 19:19 away from me as if I don't matter. I'm 19:19 away from me as if I don't matter. I'm I'm a drug addict and I should be like 19:20 I'm a drug addict and I should be like 19:20 I'm a drug addict and I should be like cast to the to the wayside. As long as 19:22 cast to the to the wayside. As long as 19:22 cast to the to the wayside. As long as you've ticked your boxes, that's all 19:24 you've ticked your boxes, that's all 19:24 you've ticked your boxes, that's all that matters, isn't it? 19:26 that matters, isn't it? 19:26 that matters, isn't it? I'd never thought about it like that 19:28 I'd never thought about it like that 19:28 I'd never thought about it like that before and now you're talking about it. 19:30 before and now you're talking about it. 19:30 before and now you're talking about it. It is such an obvious thing. 19:37 Yeah. And it's hard, isn't it, to get 19:37 Yeah. And it's hard, isn't it, to get you, it's really hard because was I ever 19:41 you, it's really hard because was I ever 19:41 you, it's really hard because was I ever going to get well off drugs? Who knows? 19:42 going to get well off drugs? Who knows? 19:42 going to get well off drugs? Who knows? But was I was there any proper 19:45 But was I was there any proper 19:45 But was I was there any proper interventions around that? Was there any 19:47 interventions around that? Was there any 19:47 interventions around that? Was there any support in me? I didn't see that. 19:50 support in me? I didn't see that. 19:50 support in me? I didn't see that. >> Um, 19:52 >> Um, 19:52 >> Um, so that's how I see it. So, am I right 19:55 so that's how I see it. So, am I right 19:56 so that's how I see it. So, am I right in thinking that clearly you didn't see 19:58 in thinking that clearly you didn't see 19:58 in thinking that clearly you didn't see them, but that places do exist 20:02 them, but that places do exist 20:02 them, but that places do exist where mom and child/children can go 20:06 where mom and child/children can go 20:06 where mom and child/children can go together for 20:08 together for 20:08 together for >> mom to get some treatment, child to be 20:11 >> mom to get some treatment, child to be 20:11 >> mom to get some treatment, child to be >> have it needs met. 20:13 >> have it needs met. 20:13 >> have it needs met. >> Yeah, there is. I didn't I had no idea 20:15 >> Yeah, there is. I didn't I had no idea 20:15 >> Yeah, there is. I didn't I had no idea at the time. I didn't even know recovery 20:17 at the time. I didn't even know recovery 20:17 at the time. I didn't even know recovery existed at the time. 20:19 existed at the time. 20:19 existed at the time. >> I had no idea. See the funny what what's 20:21 >> I had no idea. See the funny what what's 20:21 >> I had no idea. See the funny what what's really see addiction can happen to 20:23 really see addiction can happen to 20:23 really see addiction can happen to anybody and yeah there's a lot of stigma 20:25 anybody and yeah there's a lot of stigma 20:25 anybody and yeah there's a lot of stigma especially as women again because we're 20:28 especially as women again because we're 20:28 especially as women again because we're the carers who would choose drugs over 20:30 the carers who would choose drugs over 20:30 the carers who would choose drugs over their child only a wicked bad woman 20:33 their child only a wicked bad woman 20:33 their child only a wicked bad woman would do that and it's so not so not 20:36 would do that and it's so not so not 20:36 would do that and it's so not so not true I've got a t-shirt that says um 20:40 true I've got a t-shirt that says um 20:40 true I've got a t-shirt that says um nice people take drugs too 20:43 nice people take drugs too 20:43 nice people take drugs too you know because it it's societ it 20:46 you know because it it's societ it 20:46 you know because it it's societ it happens and people tend not to to tend 20:50 happens and people tend not to to tend 20:50 happens and people tend not to to tend to forget that alcohol is a drug. 20:52 to forget that alcohol is a drug. 20:52 to forget that alcohol is a drug. >> Yeah. 20:52 >> Yeah. 20:52 >> Yeah. >> Cigarettes is a drug. 20:54 >> Cigarettes is a drug. 20:54 >> Cigarettes is a drug. >> Yeah. 20:54 >> Yeah. 20:54 >> Yeah. >> Uh food is a drug. 20:57 >> Uh food is a drug. 20:57 >> Uh food is a drug. >> You certainly with all the crap they put 20:58 >> You certainly with all the crap they put 20:58 >> You certainly with all the crap they put in it nowadays. Do 20:59 in it nowadays. Do 20:59 in it nowadays. Do >> you know what I mean? It's like so many 21:01 >> you know what I mean? It's like so many 21:01 >> you know what I mean? It's like so many things. Um pornography. 21:03 things. Um pornography. 21:03 things. Um pornography. >> Yeah. 21:03 >> Yeah. 21:04 >> Yeah. >> Do you know um affairs, 21:07 >> Do you know um affairs, 21:07 >> Do you know um affairs, um codependency, it's all there's always 21:09 um codependency, it's all there's always 21:09 um codependency, it's all there's always something we're all disassociating from 21:11 something we're all disassociating from 21:11 something we're all disassociating from because of life. How brutal life can be, 21:14 because of life. How brutal life can be, 21:14 because of life. How brutal life can be, how beautiful it can be, but how brutal 21:16 how beautiful it can be, but how brutal 21:16 how beautiful it can be, but how brutal it can be. And let's escape our 21:18 it can be. And let's escape our 21:18 it can be. And let's escape our feelings. Yeah. 21:19 feelings. Yeah. 21:19 feelings. Yeah. >> Um 21:22 >> Um 21:22 >> Um and so to judge somebody is probably the 21:24 and so to judge somebody is probably the 21:24 and so to judge somebody is probably the easiest thing to do, isn't it? But yeah, 21:27 easiest thing to do, isn't it? But yeah, 21:27 easiest thing to do, isn't it? But yeah, that's what kills people. 21:28 that's what kills people. 21:28 that's what kills people. >> Yeah. 21:30 >> Yeah. 21:30 >> Yeah. >> Um there's pain behind that. 21:32 >> Um there's pain behind that. 21:32 >> Um there's pain behind that. >> Yeah. 21:33 >> Yeah. 21:33 >> Yeah. >> Don't ask why the addiction like Garbo 21:35 >> Don't ask why the addiction like Garbo 21:35 >> Don't ask why the addiction like Garbo Mart says, ask why the pain. 21:37 Mart says, ask why the pain. 21:37 Mart says, ask why the pain. >> Yeah. 21:38 >> Yeah. 21:38 >> Yeah. >> Which was where I was sort of heading. 21:42 >> Which was where I was sort of heading. 21:42 >> Which was where I was sort of heading. And you only use the word brutal because 21:44 And you only use the word brutal because 21:44 And you only use the word brutal because you used it. 21:45 you used it. 21:45 you used it. >> I just think it's a good word. I think 21:47 >> I just think it's a good word. I think 21:47 >> I just think it's a good word. I think is a good word. So, 21:50 is a good word. So, 21:50 is a good word. So, did the brutality of life or the drugs 21:54 did the brutality of life or the drugs 21:54 did the brutality of life or the drugs come first for you or were they fairly 21:57 come first for you or were they fairly 21:57 come first for you or were they fairly simultaneous or I think yeah, I mean 22:01 simultaneous or I think yeah, I mean 22:01 simultaneous or I think yeah, I mean some people say it's not a drug problem, 22:02 some people say it's not a drug problem, 22:02 some people say it's not a drug problem, it's a coping with life problem. Um, I 22:06 it's a coping with life problem. Um, I 22:06 it's a coping with life problem. Um, I think I think I'm a very empathetic 22:08 think I think I'm a very empathetic 22:08 think I think I'm a very empathetic person. I think I've got, believe it or 22:10 person. I think I've got, believe it or 22:10 person. I think I've got, believe it or not, high emotional intelligence, which 22:13 not, high emotional intelligence, which 22:13 not, high emotional intelligence, which makes me I don't like saying the word 22:16 makes me I don't like saying the word 22:16 makes me I don't like saying the word sensitive, but yes, sensitive to 22:19 sensitive, but yes, sensitive to 22:19 sensitive, but yes, sensitive to lots of things around me. It's kind of 22:22 lots of things around me. It's kind of 22:22 lots of things around me. It's kind of like it's brilliant in a lot of senses, 22:24 like it's brilliant in a lot of senses, 22:24 like it's brilliant in a lot of senses, but some sometimes it can be a little 22:26 but some sometimes it can be a little 22:26 but some sometimes it can be a little bit of a disability. Um, and then 22:29 bit of a disability. Um, and then 22:29 bit of a disability. Um, and then obviously as an adult, I've been 22:30 obviously as an adult, I've been 22:30 obviously as an adult, I've been diagnosed with ADHD. 22:32 diagnosed with ADHD. 22:32 diagnosed with ADHD. And now that makes sense 22:37 And now that makes sense 22:37 And now that makes sense being diagnosed with that even though 22:39 being diagnosed with that even though 22:39 being diagnosed with that even though people who know me go really like we 22:41 people who know me go really like we 22:41 people who know me go really like we knew that 22:42 knew that 22:42 knew that >> do you know it's like 22:43 >> do you know it's like 22:43 >> do you know it's like >> surprised. 22:43 >> surprised. 22:44 >> surprised. >> Yeah. It's not surprised. It's like but 22:45 >> Yeah. It's not surprised. It's like but 22:45 >> Yeah. It's not surprised. It's like but things are making sense now. 22:46 things are making sense now. 22:46 things are making sense now. >> Yeah. 22:47 >> Yeah. 22:47 >> Yeah. >> At school and me always wanting to be 22:49 >> At school and me always wanting to be 22:49 >> At school and me always wanting to be like an entrepreneur and selling things 22:51 like an entrepreneur and selling things 22:51 like an entrepreneur and selling things and and and talking all the time in 22:53 and and and talking all the time in 22:53 and and and talking all the time in class and and and school not fitting in 22:55 class and and and school not fitting in 22:55 class and and and school not fitting in for me. Like I was good at violin. I was 22:58 for me. Like I was good at violin. I was 22:58 for me. Like I was good at violin. I was good at I was really good at music. I 22:59 good at I was really good at music. I 22:59 good at I was really good at music. I was good at um sports. um f art and then 23:04 was good at um sports. um f art and then 23:04 was good at um sports. um f art and then I moved schools to an academic school 23:06 I moved schools to an academic school 23:06 I moved schools to an academic school and then I fell out of the way. I fell 23:08 and then I fell out of the way. I fell 23:08 and then I fell out of the way. I fell away from school and I was I never 23:11 away from school and I was I never 23:11 away from school and I was I never really went I didn't get any 23:12 really went I didn't get any 23:12 really went I didn't get any qualifications and I was drinking a lot. 23:15 qualifications and I was drinking a lot. 23:15 qualifications and I was drinking a lot. My first encounter with alcohol was when 23:18 My first encounter with alcohol was when 23:18 My first encounter with alcohol was when I was 14 and I'd stole a babysitter's 23:21 I was 14 and I'd stole a babysitter's 23:22 I was 14 and I'd stole a babysitter's sto I was babysitting 23:24 sto I was babysitting 23:24 sto I was babysitting um or 14 I was babysitting and um me and 23:27 um or 14 I was babysitting and um me and 23:27 um or 14 I was babysitting and um me and my best friend thought it was a really 23:29 my best friend thought it was a really 23:29 my best friend thought it was a really really good idea to raid the drinks 23:30 really good idea to raid the drinks 23:30 really good idea to raid the drinks cabinet 23:32 cabinet 23:32 cabinet thought brilliant idea. So we did and 23:35 thought brilliant idea. So we did and 23:35 thought brilliant idea. So we did and then we were like on the um we were on 23:37 then we were like on the um we were on 23:37 then we were like on the um we were on the bridge of the village just 23:38 the bridge of the village just 23:38 the bridge of the village just absolutely mold and you know what I 23:40 absolutely mold and you know what I 23:40 absolutely mold and you know what I thought God that feeling is amazing. 23:44 thought God that feeling is amazing. 23:44 thought God that feeling is amazing. This is something that I I just felt 23:47 This is something that I I just felt 23:47 This is something that I I just felt whole. I felt like it was something I've 23:48 whole. I felt like it was something I've 23:48 whole. I felt like it was something I've been looking for all my life. 23:51 been looking for all my life. 23:51 been looking for all my life. >> That does sound pretty dangerous, 23:52 >> That does sound pretty dangerous, 23:52 >> That does sound pretty dangerous, >> doesn't it? 23:53 >> doesn't it? 23:53 >> doesn't it? >> Yeah. Whereas it years later when I 23:56 >> Yeah. Whereas it years later when I 23:56 >> Yeah. Whereas it years later when I spoke to people and they're not I 23:58 spoke to people and they're not I 23:58 spoke to people and they're not I haven't got a problem with it say well 23:59 haven't got a problem with it say well 23:59 haven't got a problem with it say well it never made me feel like like that 24:02 it never made me feel like like that 24:02 it never made me feel like like that >> you know it wasn't like everything to me 24:04 >> you know it wasn't like everything to me 24:04 >> you know it wasn't like everything to me and I think it's because I didn't 24:06 and I think it's because I didn't 24:06 and I think it's because I didn't whether whether it was perceived that I 24:08 whether whether it was perceived that I 24:08 whether whether it was perceived that I didn't have love or I didn't 24:11 didn't have love or I didn't 24:11 didn't have love or I didn't because I believe my mother wasn't 24:14 because I believe my mother wasn't 24:14 because I believe my mother wasn't capable of that at the time for whatever 24:16 capable of that at the time for whatever 24:16 capable of that at the time for whatever reason in her background. um that that 24:20 reason in her background. um that that 24:20 reason in her background. um that that that gave me that love that I needed. 24:22 that gave me that love that I needed. 24:22 that gave me that love that I needed. And you're right, it's dangerous. Yeah. 24:24 And you're right, it's dangerous. Yeah. 24:24 And you're right, it's dangerous. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. You were looking for a way 24:26 >> Yeah. Yeah. You were looking for a way 24:26 >> Yeah. Yeah. You were looking for a way to meet the needs that you had. 24:28 to meet the needs that you had. 24:28 to meet the needs that you had. >> Yeah. 24:29 >> Yeah. 24:29 >> Yeah. >> And that did it really well. 24:30 >> And that did it really well. 24:30 >> And that did it really well. >> And that did it. 24:32 >> And that did it. 24:32 >> And that did it. >> And then it was just a career from 24:33 >> And then it was just a career from 24:33 >> And then it was just a career from there. 24:35 there. 24:35 there. >> But bear in mind at school as well when 24:37 >> But bear in mind at school as well when 24:37 >> But bear in mind at school as well when the teacher asks you what you want to be 24:38 the teacher asks you what you want to be 24:38 the teacher asks you what you want to be when you grow up, I didn't say drug 24:40 when you grow up, I didn't say drug 24:40 when you grow up, I didn't say drug addict. 24:41 addict. 24:41 addict. >> No. No. That would have been a surprise 24:44 >> No. No. That would have been a surprise 24:44 >> No. No. That would have been a surprise thing. Yeah. Did you did you know what 24:47 thing. Yeah. Did you did you know what 24:47 thing. Yeah. Did you did you know what you wanted to do 24:48 you wanted to do 24:48 you wanted to do >> being you musical? 24:51 >> being you musical? 24:51 >> being you musical? >> Um, funnily enough, yeah, I wanted to be 24:53 >> Um, funnily enough, yeah, I wanted to be 24:53 >> Um, funnily enough, yeah, I wanted to be a model, but I wanted to be 6' tall 24:58 a model, but I wanted to be 6' tall 24:58 a model, but I wanted to be 6' tall and I wanted to be on Vogue in the 25:00 and I wanted to be on Vogue in the 25:00 and I wanted to be on Vogue in the catwalks. 25:02 catwalks. 25:02 catwalks. So, I had my mom had a shop, a fashion 25:04 So, I had my mom had a shop, a fashion 25:04 So, I had my mom had a shop, a fashion shop. So, I used to she used to get 25:06 shop. So, I used to she used to get 25:06 shop. So, I used to she used to get Vogue on prescription. Ah, 25:07 Vogue on prescription. Ah, 25:07 Vogue on prescription. Ah, >> or Vogue. I'm going vogue. That's my 25:10 >> or Vogue. I'm going vogue. That's my 25:10 >> or Vogue. I'm going vogue. That's my northern accent. Um, and I would rip all 25:13 northern accent. Um, and I would rip all 25:13 northern accent. Um, and I would rip all the pages out and put them all over my 25:14 the pages out and put them all over my 25:14 the pages out and put them all over my wall. Yeah. 25:15 wall. Yeah. 25:15 wall. Yeah. >> Um, I would have liked to have been a 25:17 >> Um, I would have liked to have been a 25:17 >> Um, I would have liked to have been a fashion designer, but I got taken out of 25:19 fashion designer, but I got taken out of 25:19 fashion designer, but I got taken out of that school. 25:20 that school. 25:20 that school. >> Otherwise, that's where I probably would 25:21 >> Otherwise, that's where I probably would 25:21 >> Otherwise, that's where I probably would have 25:22 have 25:22 have >> Yeah. 25:22 >> Yeah. 25:22 >> Yeah. >> I would have gone that way. Like my 25:24 >> I would have gone that way. Like my 25:24 >> I would have gone that way. Like my niece is doing that right now. 25:26 niece is doing that right now. 25:26 niece is doing that right now. Um, but everything for a reason. And so 25:29 Um, but everything for a reason. And so 25:29 Um, but everything for a reason. And so I 25:31 I 25:31 I I um 25:33 I um 25:34 I um so that's what I wanted to be. And I 25:35 so that's what I wanted to be. And I 25:35 so that's what I wanted to be. And I thought one day they're going to I'll be 25:36 thought one day they're going to I'll be 25:36 thought one day they're going to I'll be able to stretch my body that'll have 25:37 able to stretch my body that'll have 25:37 able to stretch my body that'll have something that they'll put in a 25:38 something that they'll put in a 25:38 something that they'll put in a stretcher and then I'll be six foot and 25:39 stretcher and then I'll be six foot and 25:39 stretcher and then I'll be six foot and then I can go on the catwalks in London. 25:42 then I can go on the catwalks in London. 25:42 then I can go on the catwalks in London. Um, that never happened. Um, I'm sure 25:44 Um, that never happened. Um, I'm sure 25:44 Um, that never happened. Um, I'm sure they could do something like that. 25:45 they could do something like that. 25:46 they could do something like that. >> A great imagination is down. It made me 25:48 >> A great imagination is down. It made me 25:48 >> A great imagination is down. It made me miserable that I thought, God, if they 25:50 miserable that I thought, God, if they 25:50 miserable that I thought, God, if they don't, what am I going to do with my 25:51 don't, what am I going to do with my 25:51 don't, what am I going to do with my life? 25:52 life? 25:52 life? >> Do you know what I mean? 25:53 >> Do you know what I mean? 25:53 >> Do you know what I mean? >> That's like fixed that that's what you 25:55 >> That's like fixed that that's what you 25:55 >> That's like fixed that that's what you wanted to do. 25:56 wanted to do. 25:56 wanted to do. >> Fixed. 25:56 >> Fixed. 25:56 >> Fixed. >> Wow. 25:57 >> Wow. 25:57 >> Wow. >> Um, so I've done bits of modeling, but 25:59 >> Um, so I've done bits of modeling, but 25:59 >> Um, so I've done bits of modeling, but it wasn't like catwalk London Vogue 26:01 it wasn't like catwalk London Vogue 26:01 it wasn't like catwalk London Vogue modeling. Um but then recently I I've 26:05 modeling. Um but then recently I I've 26:05 modeling. Um but then recently I I've just been in the small bit small um f 26:07 just been in the small bit small um f 26:07 just been in the small bit small um f entrepreneur I also 100 um small 26:11 entrepreneur I also 100 um small 26:11 entrepreneur I also 100 um small business Britain 26:13 business Britain 26:13 business Britain cohort. 26:14 cohort. 26:14 cohort. >> Okay. So, the other week I went down to 26:16 >> Okay. So, the other week I went down to 26:16 >> Okay. So, the other week I went down to London and I went to a small business 26:18 London and I went to a small business 26:18 London and I went to a small business Britain. Um, it was at Arsenal football 26:20 Britain. Um, it was at Arsenal football 26:20 Britain. Um, it was at Arsenal football club, uh, women's football, you know, 26:23 club, uh, women's football, you know, 26:23 club, uh, women's football, you know, because it's it's like empowering women 26:25 because it's it's like empowering women 26:25 because it's it's like empowering women and we can be who we want to be. And, 26:28 and we can be who we want to be. And, 26:28 and we can be who we want to be. And, >> um, and then I got my photograph taken 26:30 >> um, and then I got my photograph taken 26:30 >> um, and then I got my photograph taken by a Vogue photographer. 26:32 by a Vogue photographer. 26:32 by a Vogue photographer. >> Yes. Yes. 26:34 >> Yes. Yes. 26:34 >> Yes. Yes. >> I was like, never give up. 26:36 >> I was like, never give up. 26:36 >> I was like, never give up. >> No. 26:37 >> No. 26:37 >> No. >> Who would have thought? All those I talk 26:39 >> Who would have thought? All those I talk 26:39 >> Who would have thought? All those I talk years later. 26:40 years later. 26:40 years later. >> Yeah. 26:41 >> Yeah. 26:41 >> Yeah. >> I was like, this has happened. So, I'm 26:42 >> I was like, this has happened. So, I'm 26:42 >> I was like, this has happened. So, I'm waiting for this photograph to come. I'm 26:43 waiting for this photograph to come. I'm 26:43 waiting for this photograph to come. I'm going to plaster it everywhere. 26:45 going to plaster it everywhere. 26:45 going to plaster it everywhere. >> Go, girl. 26:46 >> Go, girl. 26:46 >> Go, girl. >> I will. So, it'll be if you ask me for a 26:48 >> I will. So, it'll be if you ask me for a 26:48 >> I will. So, it'll be if you ask me for a photograph, go. There's my photograph. 26:50 photograph, go. There's my photograph. 26:50 photograph, go. There's my photograph. Hopefully, it'll be nice. 26:51 Hopefully, it'll be nice. 26:51 Hopefully, it'll be nice. >> Love it. If it comes before the podcast 26:54 >> Love it. If it comes before the podcast 26:54 >> Love it. If it comes before the podcast airs, send it me and I'll put it in the 26:56 airs, send it me and I'll put it in the 26:56 airs, send it me and I'll put it in the links. 26:58 links. 26:58 links. >> I just think it's a good a good thing of 27:01 >> I just think it's a good a good thing of 27:01 >> I just think it's a good a good thing of the message is don't give up because you 27:03 the message is don't give up because you 27:03 the message is don't give up because you just do not know what's going to happen. 27:04 just do not know what's going to happen. 27:04 just do not know what's going to happen. >> Yeah. 27:05 >> Yeah. 27:05 >> Yeah. >> Like the relationship with my son, it's 27:08 >> Like the relationship with my son, it's 27:08 >> Like the relationship with my son, it's great. 27:09 great. 27:09 great. >> It's great. you know, nothing has been 27:11 >> It's great. you know, nothing has been 27:11 >> It's great. you know, nothing has been hidden from him either 27:13 hidden from him either 27:14 hidden from him either >> and we're all right. It could have 27:15 >> and we're all right. It could have 27:15 >> and we're all right. It could have turned out so differently. 27:17 turned out so differently. 27:17 turned out so differently. >> Yeah. Couldn't it? 27:18 >> Yeah. Couldn't it? 27:18 >> Yeah. Couldn't it? >> There's a huge spectrum there of what 27:20 >> There's a huge spectrum there of what 27:20 >> There's a huge spectrum there of what could have happened, isn't it? 27:21 could have happened, isn't it? 27:21 could have happened, isn't it? >> Of course. 27:23 >> Of course. 27:23 >> Of course. >> So 27:25 >> So 27:25 >> So part going back going to the women going 27:27 part going back going to the women going 27:27 part going back going to the women going back to the women only wellness 27:28 back to the women only wellness 27:28 back to the women only wellness gathering. 27:30 gathering. 27:30 gathering. It's just absolutely amazing place to be 27:33 It's just absolutely amazing place to be 27:33 It's just absolutely amazing place to be and 27:35 and 27:35 and we we've kept the ticket prices 27:38 we we've kept the ticket prices 27:38 we we've kept the ticket prices reasonable so we can include all women 27:41 reasonable so we can include all women 27:41 reasonable so we can include all women because some of these retreats that you 27:42 because some of these retreats that you 27:42 because some of these retreats that you see are quite expensive aren't they? 27:44 see are quite expensive aren't they? 27:44 see are quite expensive aren't they? >> Yeah. 27:45 >> Yeah. 27:45 >> Yeah. >> I can't afford them. Do you know it's a 27:47 >> I can't afford them. Do you know it's a 27:47 >> I can't afford them. Do you know it's a lot of money and how many people can 27:50 lot of money and how many people can 27:50 lot of money and how many people can leave it depends what age group you are 27:51 leave it depends what age group you are 27:51 leave it depends what age group you are I suppose but leaving your business and 27:53 I suppose but leaving your business and 27:53 I suppose but leaving your business and leaving your children or make it can be 27:55 leaving your children or make it can be 27:55 leaving your children or make it can be quite expensive to go to these retreats 27:57 quite expensive to go to these retreats 27:57 quite expensive to go to these retreats and it's another expense which is a lot 28:00 and it's another expense which is a lot 28:00 and it's another expense which is a lot so do it in the community if you want to 28:02 so do it in the community if you want to 28:02 so do it in the community if you want to and stay at the weekend if you want to 28:05 and stay at the weekend if you want to 28:05 and stay at the weekend if you want to um you don't have to um but I think it's 28:09 um you don't have to um but I think it's 28:09 um you don't have to um but I think it's just 28:11 just 28:11 just it's just so beautiful that see all all 28:13 it's just so beautiful that see all all 28:13 it's just so beautiful that see all all everyone thriving and that's what it's 28:15 everyone thriving and that's what it's 28:15 everyone thriving and that's what it's about unity and everyone can have a 28:17 about unity and everyone can have a 28:17 about unity and everyone can have a piece of the cake. 28:18 piece of the cake. 28:18 piece of the cake. >> It's a community. 28:20 >> It's a community. 28:20 >> It's a community. >> Do you get ladies there as well that 28:23 >> Do you get ladies there as well that 28:23 >> Do you get ladies there as well that come from the abusive background? 28:25 come from the abusive background? 28:25 come from the abusive background? >> Exactly what I was going to say. Thank 28:26 >> Exactly what I was going to say. Thank 28:26 >> Exactly what I was going to say. Thank you for that. That that's what was on my 28:29 you for that. That that's what was on my 28:29 you for that. That that's what was on my mind. I was like, I need to say this. 28:31 mind. I was like, I need to say this. 28:31 mind. I was like, I need to say this. Yes. Um I mean, obviously, you don't 28:33 Yes. Um I mean, obviously, you don't 28:33 Yes. Um I mean, obviously, you don't know who's been through what, do you? 28:35 know who's been through what, do you? 28:35 know who's been through what, do you? >> Of course, you don't. 28:36 >> Of course, you don't. 28:36 >> Of course, you don't. >> No. unless somebody chooses to speak. 28:38 >> No. unless somebody chooses to speak. 28:38 >> No. unless somebody chooses to speak. But there's um we actively send letters 28:43 But there's um we actively send letters 28:43 But there's um we actively send letters to refugees and rehabs, women only 28:46 to refugees and rehabs, women only 28:46 to refugees and rehabs, women only rehabs and offer them half price tickets 28:49 rehabs and offer them half price tickets 28:49 rehabs and offer them half price tickets cuz a lot have funding. So we're like, 28:51 cuz a lot have funding. So we're like, 28:51 cuz a lot have funding. So we're like, well, if we just meet them halfway, then 28:53 well, if we just meet them halfway, then 28:53 well, if we just meet them halfway, then there's funding from the rehab to send 28:55 there's funding from the rehab to send 28:55 there's funding from the rehab to send the women over and we'll go half price 28:57 the women over and we'll go half price 28:57 the women over and we'll go half price tickets so that they can experience 28:58 tickets so that they can experience 28:58 tickets so that they can experience this. Last year, I was speaking to a a a 29:02 this. Last year, I was speaking to a a a 29:02 this. Last year, I was speaking to a a a girl, a young woman. um we're doing a 29:04 girl, a young woman. um we're doing a 29:04 girl, a young woman. um we're doing a crafting session because I like to get 29:07 crafting session because I like to get 29:07 crafting session because I like to get involved and I was it's how you speak to 29:09 involved and I was it's how you speak to 29:10 involved and I was it's how you speak to people the barriers come down 29:11 people the barriers come down 29:11 people the barriers come down >> and she was in a um like a grooming 29:13 >> and she was in a um like a grooming 29:13 >> and she was in a um like a grooming gang. She'd been like I won't mention 29:15 gang. She'd been like I won't mention 29:15 gang. She'd been like I won't mention names or anything but was part of a 29:17 names or anything but was part of a 29:17 names or anything but was part of a grooming gang anyway and she's out of 29:19 grooming gang anyway and she's out of 29:19 grooming gang anyway and she's out of that now. Um but that was one of her 29:22 that now. Um but that was one of her 29:22 that now. Um but that was one of her only safe spaces that she could go that 29:24 only safe spaces that she could go that 29:24 only safe spaces that she could go that year knowing that she didn't have to 29:26 year knowing that she didn't have to 29:26 year knowing that she didn't have to look over her shoulder. 29:28 look over her shoulder. 29:28 look over her shoulder. >> Oh bless her. And it was so healing for 29:30 >> Oh bless her. And it was so healing for 29:30 >> Oh bless her. And it was so healing for her that she went, I'm going to bring 29:31 her that she went, I'm going to bring 29:31 her that she went, I'm going to bring some people that some of the women that 29:33 some people that some of the women that 29:33 some people that some of the women that I know next year. Was that okay, of 29:34 I know next year. Was that okay, of 29:34 I know next year. Was that okay, of course, it's okay, you know. Um, and 29:37 course, it's okay, you know. Um, and 29:37 course, it's okay, you know. Um, and this is the difference that that place 29:39 this is the difference that that place 29:39 this is the difference that that place is making. And it's a third space. It's 29:41 is making. And it's a third space. It's 29:41 is making. And it's a third space. It's not your It's not home life where you're 29:43 not your It's not home life where you're 29:43 not your It's not home life where you're so busy looking after everybody else. 29:45 so busy looking after everybody else. 29:45 so busy looking after everybody else. Uh, your work life where you're so busy 29:47 Uh, your work life where you're so busy 29:47 Uh, your work life where you're so busy looking doing things for other people. 29:49 looking doing things for other people. 29:49 looking doing things for other people. >> Yeah. 29:50 >> Yeah. 29:50 >> Yeah. >> It's it's about you and giving yourself 29:52 >> It's it's about you and giving yourself 29:52 >> It's it's about you and giving yourself permission to just have some time out. 29:55 permission to just have some time out. 29:55 permission to just have some time out. That's wonderful. 29:57 That's wonderful. 29:57 That's wonderful. And I really like the fact that, you 30:01 And I really like the fact that, you 30:01 And I really like the fact that, you know, obviously the attendees 30:04 know, obviously the attendees 30:04 know, obviously the attendees will each individually know their own 30:06 will each individually know their own 30:06 will each individually know their own backgrounds, but none of the others no 30:09 backgrounds, but none of the others no 30:09 backgrounds, but none of the others no do. And it's then the individual's 30:12 do. And it's then the individual's 30:12 do. And it's then the individual's choice 30:14 choice 30:14 choice as to what they disclose or not, 30:16 as to what they disclose or not, 30:16 as to what they disclose or not, >> of course, 30:16 >> of course, 30:16 >> of course, >> how they interact. 30:20 >> how they interact. 30:20 >> how they interact. >> And that's the way I see it. the way the 30:23 >> And that's the way I see it. the way the 30:23 >> And that's the way I see it. the way the diversity of what you offers really 30:25 diversity of what you offers really 30:25 diversity of what you offers really plays 30:26 plays 30:26 plays beautifully with their needs, doesn't 30:28 beautifully with their needs, doesn't 30:28 beautifully with their needs, doesn't it? 30:29 it? 30:29 it? >> And we're looking we're looking for more 30:33 >> And we're looking we're looking for more 30:33 >> And we're looking we're looking for more bell tents. We're looking for more 30:35 bell tents. We're looking for more 30:35 bell tents. We're looking for more sponsors. 30:37 sponsors. 30:37 sponsors. Um the TP is funded every year uh by 30:40 Um the TP is funded every year uh by 30:40 Um the TP is funded every year uh by local local PS cuz it's quite expensive 30:43 local local PS cuz it's quite expensive 30:43 local local PS cuz it's quite expensive for TP. Um and which helps us keep 30:46 for TP. Um and which helps us keep 30:46 for TP. Um and which helps us keep prices down as well. 30:47 prices down as well. 30:47 prices down as well. >> Yeah. 30:48 >> Yeah. 30:48 >> Yeah. >> And it's a lovely atmosphere with that 30:50 >> And it's a lovely atmosphere with that 30:50 >> And it's a lovely atmosphere with that that TP is just the central point. It's 30:52 that TP is just the central point. It's 30:52 that TP is just the central point. It's just with a microphone and there women 30:54 just with a microphone and there women 30:54 just with a microphone and there women just we have fire and fire going on as 30:57 just we have fire and fire going on as 30:57 just we have fire and fire going on as well like um it's not just a fireworking 30:59 well like um it's not just a fireworking 30:59 well like um it's not just a fireworking and glass walking. Um it's like a kind 31:02 and glass walking. Um it's like a kind 31:02 and glass walking. Um it's like a kind of ceremony. It it's not it's not weird 31:06 of ceremony. It it's not it's not weird 31:06 of ceremony. It it's not it's not weird like or woowoo. It's just a lovely 31:08 like or woowoo. It's just a lovely 31:08 like or woowoo. It's just a lovely space. 31:08 space. 31:08 space. >> Yeah. 31:09 >> Yeah. 31:09 >> Yeah. >> It's just you know if you want to heal 31:11 >> It's just you know if you want to heal 31:11 >> It's just you know if you want to heal and you want to try and find ways to be 31:14 and you want to try and find ways to be 31:14 and you want to try and find ways to be happy. 31:15 happy. 31:15 happy. >> Yeah. Cuz healing is a is a funny thing, 31:18 >> Yeah. Cuz healing is a is a funny thing, 31:18 >> Yeah. Cuz healing is a is a funny thing, isn't it? 31:20 isn't it? 31:20 isn't it? Even within ourselves, 31:23 Even within ourselves, 31:23 Even within ourselves, we need different 31:25 we need different 31:25 we need different approaches to heal different things. 31:27 approaches to heal different things. 31:27 approaches to heal different things. >> Yeah. 31:28 >> Yeah. 31:28 >> Yeah. >> Some of them might be I'm going to call 31:30 >> Some of them might be I'm going to call 31:30 >> Some of them might be I'm going to call a counseling session, but some kind of 31:32 a counseling session, but some kind of 31:32 a counseling session, but some kind of talking, whether that be to, you know, a 31:35 talking, whether that be to, you know, a 31:35 talking, whether that be to, you know, a stranger or structured or just to 31:37 stranger or structured or just to 31:37 stranger or structured or just to friends. Some of it might be having to 31:39 friends. Some of it might be having to 31:40 friends. Some of it might be having to really challenge yourself like you 31:41 really challenge yourself like you 31:41 really challenge yourself like you mentioned firew walking and glass 31:42 mentioned firew walking and glass 31:42 mentioned firew walking and glass walking. That's really challenging 31:44 walking. That's really challenging 31:44 walking. That's really challenging yourself. 31:44 yourself. 31:44 yourself. >> Fear, isn't it? you know, 31:47 >> Fear, isn't it? you know, 31:47 >> Fear, isn't it? you know, others is just letting go in nature and 31:49 others is just letting go in nature and 31:50 others is just letting go in nature and standing in a stone circle and 31:51 standing in a stone circle and 31:51 standing in a stone circle and >> Oh, yeah. 31:52 >> Oh, yeah. 31:52 >> Oh, yeah. >> There's so many. 31:53 >> There's so many. 31:53 >> There's so many. >> I just lie and look at the stars if you 31:55 >> I just lie and look at the stars if you 31:55 >> I just lie and look at the stars if you want to. You don't have to do a 31:56 want to. You don't have to do a 31:56 want to. You don't have to do a workshop. 31:57 workshop. 31:57 workshop. >> Yeah. And music, like you say, you 32:00 >> Yeah. And music, like you say, you 32:00 >> Yeah. And music, like you say, you mentioned a couple of music things. 32:01 mentioned a couple of music things. 32:01 mentioned a couple of music things. That's so important, isn't it? 32:02 That's so important, isn't it? 32:02 That's so important, isn't it? >> I love music in all different types of 32:05 >> I love music in all different types of 32:05 >> I love music in all different types of ways. I was even listening to some trans 32:07 ways. I was even listening to some trans 32:08 ways. I was even listening to some trans music and there's some like breathe in, 32:10 music and there's some like breathe in, 32:10 music and there's some like breathe in, breathe out, trans and I was like, "Wow, 32:11 breathe out, trans and I was like, "Wow, 32:11 breathe out, trans and I was like, "Wow, this is really good." But I also love 32:13 this is really good." But I also love 32:14 this is really good." But I also love going to the gong ceremonies and yeah, I 32:15 going to the gong ceremonies and yeah, I 32:16 going to the gong ceremonies and yeah, I went to one with a shamanic harp um and 32:18 went to one with a shamanic harp um and 32:18 went to one with a shamanic harp um and a digo 32:20 a digo 32:20 a digo um and I god knows what else there were 32:23 um and I god knows what else there were 32:23 um and I god knows what else there were was going on, but it's just it's and 32:26 was going on, but it's just it's and 32:26 was going on, but it's just it's and things every time I do something like 32:28 things every time I do something like 32:28 things every time I do something like that and what other women say as well is 32:30 that and what other women say as well is 32:30 that and what other women say as well is there's a shift or there's something 32:31 there's a shift or there's something 32:32 there's a shift or there's something healed or 32:33 healed or 32:33 healed or >> yeah like I was so my my I've got a 32:35 >> yeah like I was so my my I've got a 32:35 >> yeah like I was so my my I've got a Irish wolf hound and um is my world and 32:39 Irish wolf hound and um is my world and 32:39 Irish wolf hound and um is my world and I have animals in my life because that 32:41 I have animals in my life because that 32:41 I have animals in my life because that helps with my mental 32:43 helps with my mental 32:43 helps with my mental most of the time. 32:45 most of the time. 32:45 most of the time. >> And a dash is a dashound. 32:47 >> And a dash is a dashound. 32:47 >> And a dash is a dashound. >> She sleeps with me. She's like next to 32:49 >> She sleeps with me. She's like next to 32:49 >> She sleeps with me. She's like next to me all the time. Um I've saluki cross 32:52 me all the time. Um I've saluki cross 32:52 me all the time. Um I've saluki cross with high energy rescue but keeps me 32:54 with high energy rescue but keeps me 32:54 with high energy rescue but keeps me right like he's he looks into my soul. 32:57 right like he's he looks into my soul. 32:57 right like he's he looks into my soul. He's like, "Are you sure you're doing 32:59 He's like, "Are you sure you're doing 32:59 He's like, "Are you sure you're doing the right thing?" 32:59 the right thing?" 32:59 the right thing?" >> Wow. 33:00 >> Wow. 33:00 >> Wow. >> Do you know what I mean? He's like, 33:03 >> Do you know what I mean? He's like, 33:03 >> Do you know what I mean? He's like, >> and then I've got the wolf hound who's 33:05 >> and then I've got the wolf hound who's 33:05 >> and then I've got the wolf hound who's just big, dorsy, bloody, big-hearted, 33:09 just big, dorsy, bloody, big-hearted, 33:09 just big, dorsy, bloody, big-hearted, beautiful bear. Yeah. Um, but he's over 33:13 beautiful bear. Yeah. Um, but he's over 33:13 beautiful bear. Yeah. Um, but he's over 10 now, so he's on heart medication and 33:15 10 now, so he's on heart medication and 33:15 10 now, so he's on heart medication and he's 33:16 he's 33:16 he's >> So, but he's my world. Yeah. 33:17 >> So, but he's my world. Yeah. 33:17 >> So, but he's my world. Yeah. >> And he's my ground. He grounds me even 33:19 >> And he's my ground. He grounds me even 33:19 >> And he's my ground. He grounds me even though I know that they don't live 33:21 though I know that they don't live 33:21 though I know that they don't live forever. Um, and he's been through so 33:25 forever. Um, and he's been through so 33:25 forever. Um, and he's been through so much with me. Um, 33:28 much with me. Um, 33:28 much with me. Um, but I went to the gong ceremony 33:31 but I went to the gong ceremony 33:31 but I went to the gong ceremony and it's a lot to cope with and people 33:33 and it's a lot to cope with and people 33:33 and it's a lot to cope with and people who are animal lovers who've had elderly 33:35 who are animal lovers who've had elderly 33:35 who are animal lovers who've had elderly pets will recognize this to know that 33:38 pets will recognize this to know that 33:38 pets will recognize this to know that every day is a blessing with him. Every 33:40 every day is a blessing with him. Every 33:40 every day is a blessing with him. Every day I have with him is a blessing. But 33:43 day I have with him is a blessing. But 33:43 day I have with him is a blessing. But that's hard to live with as well. 33:44 that's hard to live with as well. 33:44 that's hard to live with as well. >> Yeah. 33:45 >> Yeah. 33:45 >> Yeah. >> Isn't it? 33:45 >> Isn't it? 33:45 >> Isn't it? >> Yes, it is. And and that's what I'm 33:48 >> Yes, it is. And and that's what I'm 33:48 >> Yes, it is. And and that's what I'm living with in a day. Ever since he got 33:49 living with in a day. Ever since he got 33:50 living with in a day. Ever since he got diagnosed with um cardiomyopathy, which 33:52 diagnosed with um cardiomyopathy, which 33:52 diagnosed with um cardiomyopathy, which is the heart condition. And 33:56 is the heart condition. And 33:56 is the heart condition. And you don't realize until you can actually 33:57 you don't realize until you can actually 33:58 you don't realize until you can actually relax. And so I was at this gong 34:00 relax. And so I was at this gong 34:00 relax. And so I was at this gong ceremony. It was at Beish Museum. It was 34:02 ceremony. It was at Beish Museum. It was 34:02 ceremony. It was at Beish Museum. It was beautiful. It was a bit like a Bridgeten 34:03 beautiful. It was a bit like a Bridgeten 34:03 beautiful. It was a bit like a Bridgeten thing. Um and I was like cuz I I was 34:08 thing. Um and I was like cuz I I was 34:08 thing. Um and I was like cuz I I was listening to music. I was like, "Oh, 34:10 listening to music. I was like, "Oh, 34:10 listening to music. I was like, "Oh, can't relax, but I'm I'm not feeling any 34:12 can't relax, but I'm I'm not feeling any 34:12 can't relax, but I'm I'm not feeling any shifts." Like, some people have visions, 34:13 shifts." Like, some people have visions, 34:13 shifts." Like, some people have visions, some people have lots of different 34:15 some people have lots of different 34:15 some people have lots of different >> mental shifts, and I I just wasn't. And 34:17 >> mental shifts, and I I just wasn't. And 34:17 >> mental shifts, and I I just wasn't. And but I know that about myself. It it it 34:19 but I know that about myself. It it it 34:19 but I know that about myself. It it it happens during the week, during the 34:22 happens during the week, during the 34:22 happens during the week, during the months, and then like nothing happened. 34:24 months, and then like nothing happened. 34:24 months, and then like nothing happened. Then all of a sudden, I got this 34:25 Then all of a sudden, I got this 34:25 Then all of a sudden, I got this overwhelming feeling, and I was just 34:28 overwhelming feeling, and I was just 34:28 overwhelming feeling, and I was just like crying so deeply. 34:31 like crying so deeply. 34:31 like crying so deeply. Um, and I think it must have lasted 34:33 Um, and I think it must have lasted 34:33 Um, and I think it must have lasted about a minute and then then I then it 34:35 about a minute and then then I then it 34:35 about a minute and then then I then it then it left. And that was about him 34:39 then it left. And that was about him 34:39 then it left. And that was about him that had I'm not letting myself even 34:40 that had I'm not letting myself even 34:40 that had I'm not letting myself even grieve that he's got 34:43 grieve that he's got 34:43 grieve that he's got >> an illness. Yeah. 34:44 >> an illness. Yeah. 34:44 >> an illness. Yeah. >> And that he is going to he is Yeah. I 34:47 >> And that he is going to he is Yeah. I 34:47 >> And that he is going to he is Yeah. I can't even say the word, but 34:50 can't even say the word, but 34:50 can't even say the word, but >> I needed to heal. 34:51 >> I needed to heal. 34:51 >> I needed to heal. >> Yeah. 34:52 >> Yeah. 34:52 >> Yeah. >> And those spaces give you per give you 34:54 >> And those spaces give you per give you 34:54 >> And those spaces give you per give you permission to do. I'm not as I don't 34:56 permission to do. I'm not as I don't 34:56 permission to do. I'm not as I don't like saying giving you permission, but 34:58 like saying giving you permission, but 34:58 like saying giving you permission, but give you the space to do that 35:01 give you the space to do that 35:01 give you the space to do that >> because otherwise it's trapped emotions 35:03 >> because otherwise it's trapped emotions 35:03 >> because otherwise it's trapped emotions inside and this is going to come out 35:05 inside and this is going to come out 35:05 inside and this is going to come out physically, isn't it? 100%. 35:07 physically, isn't it? 100%. 35:07 physically, isn't it? 100%. >> Right. And and of course it does. Like 35:09 >> Right. And and of course it does. Like 35:09 >> Right. And and of course it does. Like I've just been about my back this 35:11 I've just been about my back this 35:11 I've just been about my back this morning and yeah, it's sematic there. 35:14 morning and yeah, it's sematic there. 35:14 morning and yeah, it's sematic there. Yeah. A little bit of arthritis. Yeah. 35:15 Yeah. A little bit of arthritis. Yeah. 35:16 Yeah. A little bit of arthritis. Yeah. I'm getting older, but there's nothing. 35:17 I'm getting older, but there's nothing. 35:17 I'm getting older, but there's nothing. It's more to do with She said it's my 35:19 It's more to do with She said it's my 35:19 It's more to do with She said it's my tension and my stress. Yes. 35:22 tension and my stress. Yes. 35:22 tension and my stress. Yes. Yep. I 100% think that emotions have a 35:27 Yep. I 100% think that emotions have a 35:27 Yep. I 100% think that emotions have a significant role to play cuz they buy 35:29 significant role to play cuz they buy 35:29 significant role to play cuz they buy into our stress often. Not always, but 35:32 into our stress often. Not always, but 35:32 into our stress often. Not always, but often. And stress makes our body sick. 35:35 often. And stress makes our body sick. 35:35 often. And stress makes our body sick. Yeah. A little bit of stress is good. We 35:37 Yeah. A little bit of stress is good. We 35:37 Yeah. A little bit of stress is good. We need a bit of stress. Um it motivates 35:40 need a bit of stress. Um it motivates 35:40 need a bit of stress. Um it motivates us. It gets us going. It gets things 35:42 us. It gets us going. It gets things 35:42 us. It gets us going. It gets things physically in our bodies moving around. 35:44 physically in our bodies moving around. 35:44 physically in our bodies moving around. All the chemicals and all the hormones 35:45 All the chemicals and all the hormones 35:45 All the chemicals and all the hormones and everything gets them all moving and 35:47 and everything gets them all moving and 35:47 and everything gets them all moving and we need it. 35:49 we need it. 35:49 we need it. >> But we need to be in charge of the 35:51 >> But we need to be in charge of the 35:51 >> But we need to be in charge of the stress and not it in charge of us cuz 35:53 stress and not it in charge of us cuz 35:53 stress and not it in charge of us cuz that's where the problems lie, isn't it? 35:55 that's where the problems lie, isn't it? 35:55 that's where the problems lie, isn't it? >> Totally. And and the pain as well. I 35:59 >> Totally. And and the pain as well. I 35:59 >> Totally. And and the pain as well. I don't want to take medication. I don't 36:01 don't want to take medication. I don't 36:01 don't want to take medication. I don't want to take lots of painkillers. 36:04 want to take lots of painkillers. 36:04 want to take lots of painkillers. I want to be able to holistically deal 36:07 I want to be able to holistically deal 36:07 I want to be able to holistically deal with this. I'm not saying that it's 36:09 with this. I'm not saying that it's 36:09 with this. I'm not saying that it's possible for everybody. 36:10 possible for everybody. 36:10 possible for everybody. >> No, of course you're not. 36:11 >> No, of course you're not. 36:11 >> No, of course you're not. >> You know, and it isn't. And some people 36:13 >> You know, and it isn't. And some people 36:13 >> You know, and it isn't. And some people excruciating pain and they need to take 36:14 excruciating pain and they need to take 36:14 excruciating pain and they need to take something. But I feel like I have a 36:17 something. But I feel like I have a 36:17 something. But I feel like I have a choice. And with my addiction as well, 36:19 choice. And with my addiction as well, 36:19 choice. And with my addiction as well, I've got to put a factor that. 36:21 I've got to put a factor that. 36:21 I've got to put a factor that. >> Yes. 36:21 >> Yes. 36:22 >> Yes. >> Um cuz I'm probably really going to like 36:23 >> Um cuz I'm probably really going to like 36:23 >> Um cuz I'm probably really going to like that pain relief. Um and maybe maybe I 36:27 that pain relief. Um and maybe maybe I 36:27 that pain relief. Um and maybe maybe I could control it now, but I'm not going 36:28 could control it now, but I'm not going 36:28 could control it now, but I'm not going to take that risk. 36:29 to take that risk. 36:29 to take that risk. >> No, I don't blame you. you know, save it 36:31 >> No, I don't blame you. you know, save it 36:31 >> No, I don't blame you. you know, save it for an instance where maybe you have to. 36:33 for an instance where maybe you have to. 36:34 for an instance where maybe you have to. >> Yes. Yeah. 100%. 36:36 >> Yes. Yeah. 100%. 36:36 >> Yes. Yeah. 100%. >> Um, so cold water swimming helps, but I 36:38 >> Um, so cold water swimming helps, but I 36:38 >> Um, so cold water swimming helps, but I can't go to the beach every day, but 36:40 can't go to the beach every day, but 36:40 can't go to the beach every day, but that really, really helps with the paras 36:42 that really, really helps with the paras 36:42 that really, really helps with the paras I kind of never say parasthetic system 36:44 I kind of never say parasthetic system 36:44 I kind of never say parasthetic system and the vagus nerve. 36:46 and the vagus nerve. 36:46 and the vagus nerve. >> Yeah. 36:46 >> Yeah. 36:46 >> Yeah. >> Um, and it just calms my system 36:48 >> Um, and it just calms my system 36:48 >> Um, and it just calms my system completely and the inflammation goes and 36:51 completely and the inflammation goes and 36:51 completely and the inflammation goes and I'm just a 36:53 I'm just a 36:53 I'm just a >> you could say anything to me and I'm not 36:54 >> you could say anything to me and I'm not 36:54 >> you could say anything to me and I'm not bothered. Oh, yeah. Whatever. you know 36:58 bothered. Oh, yeah. Whatever. you know 36:58 bothered. Oh, yeah. Whatever. you know that um but I just 37:02 that um but I just 37:02 that um but I just yeah if if I can just ease into the pain 37:05 yeah if if I can just ease into the pain 37:05 yeah if if I can just ease into the pain now 37:07 now 37:07 now >> and go it's okay it's not that bad 37:09 >> and go it's okay it's not that bad 37:09 >> and go it's okay it's not that bad >> because my brain is telling me that it 37:10 >> because my brain is telling me that it 37:10 >> because my brain is telling me that it is and it's trying to protect me and 37:12 is and it's trying to protect me and 37:12 is and it's trying to protect me and when it's trying to protect me it's it's 37:14 when it's trying to protect me it's it's 37:14 when it's trying to protect me it's it's giving me more pain 37:16 giving me more pain 37:16 giving me more pain >> right somebody said to me 37:20 >> right somebody said to me 37:20 >> right somebody said to me and it kind of works I did try it when 37:24 and it kind of works I did try it when 37:24 and it kind of works I did try it when you get some pain talk to it. 37:26 you get some pain talk to it. 37:26 you get some pain talk to it. >> Yeah. Ask it. So, why are you there? 37:29 >> Yeah. Ask it. So, why are you there? 37:29 >> Yeah. Ask it. So, why are you there? What purpose are you serving? What are 37:31 What purpose are you serving? What are 37:31 What purpose are you serving? What are you trying to tell me? 37:33 you trying to tell me? 37:33 you trying to tell me? >> Yeah. 37:33 >> Yeah. 37:33 >> Yeah. >> And as a medic, people might look at me 37:36 >> And as a medic, people might look at me 37:36 >> And as a medic, people might look at me and think, are you off your nut, Dr. 37:39 and think, are you off your nut, Dr. 37:39 and think, are you off your nut, Dr. Eastwood? 37:40 Eastwood? 37:40 Eastwood? >> I'm like, well, no, because 37:44 >> I'm like, well, no, because 37:44 >> I'm like, well, no, because the body is a whole entity and we do not 37:48 the body is a whole entity and we do not 37:48 the body is a whole entity and we do not understand it all scientifically and 37:50 understand it all scientifically and 37:50 understand it all scientifically and clinically. 37:52 clinically. 37:52 clinically. And yes, I do not doubt for a second 37:54 And yes, I do not doubt for a second 37:54 And yes, I do not doubt for a second that there are types of pain that we 37:57 that there are types of pain that we 37:57 that there are types of pain that we need to intervene with. 38:00 need to intervene with. 38:00 need to intervene with. But 38:02 But 38:02 But how, you know, what what harm is it 38:04 how, you know, what what harm is it 38:04 how, you know, what what harm is it going to do if you say to yourself, 38:06 going to do if you say to yourself, 38:06 going to do if you say to yourself, "Come on then, pain. What are you all 38:07 "Come on then, pain. What are you all 38:08 "Come on then, pain. What are you all about? What do you need? What can I do?" 38:11 about? What do you need? What can I do?" 38:11 about? What do you need? What can I do?" And sometimes that can just relieve the 38:13 And sometimes that can just relieve the 38:13 And sometimes that can just relieve the stress and the tension and ease the pain 38:15 stress and the tension and ease the pain 38:15 stress and the tension and ease the pain a little. 38:16 a little. 38:16 a little. >> What's wrong with that? 38:18 >> What's wrong with that? 38:18 >> What's wrong with that? >> Nothing. Exactly. Well, our bodies 38:21 >> Nothing. Exactly. Well, our bodies 38:21 >> Nothing. Exactly. Well, our bodies produce chemicals, natural chemicals 38:23 produce chemicals, natural chemicals 38:23 produce chemicals, natural chemicals anyway for healing. And if I can go into 38:25 anyway for healing. And if I can go into 38:25 anyway for healing. And if I can go into the water and not take any drugs, but 38:26 the water and not take any drugs, but 38:26 the water and not take any drugs, but come out and feel really good and the 38:28 come out and feel really good and the 38:28 come out and feel really good and the pains 38:29 pains 38:29 pains >> the the is it the inflammation 38:32 >> the the is it the inflammation 38:32 >> the the is it the inflammation >> has eased then I didn't take any 38:34 >> has eased then I didn't take any 38:34 >> has eased then I didn't take any medication there. I took natural 38:35 medication there. I took natural 38:36 medication there. I took natural medication. 38:36 medication. 38:36 medication. >> Yes. 38:38 >> Yes. 38:38 >> Yes. >> I think there's a place for everything 38:39 >> I think there's a place for everything 38:39 >> I think there's a place for everything and every isn't there? 38:40 and every isn't there? 38:40 and every isn't there? >> Yeah. 38:41 >> Yeah. 38:41 >> Yeah. >> But don't like diss it cuz there is 38:44 >> But don't like diss it cuz there is 38:44 >> But don't like diss it cuz there is there is a lot. I know med science. Is 38:47 there is a lot. I know med science. Is 38:48 there is a lot. I know med science. Is it science? and they'll say, "Well, 38:49 it science? and they'll say, "Well, 38:49 it science? and they'll say, "Well, we've come on a long way. We don't 38:50 we've come on a long way. We don't 38:50 we've come on a long way. We don't really All right. So, here's an example 38:51 really All right. So, here's an example 38:51 really All right. So, here's an example of that." With my dogs, I went to see um 38:55 of that." With my dogs, I went to see um 38:55 of that." With my dogs, I went to see um he's called Dr. Love and he's I know and 38:58 he's called Dr. Love and he's I know and 38:58 he's called Dr. Love and he's I know and he's um he's a 39:00 he's um he's a 39:00 he's um he's a cardiomyopathy, well, heart specialist 39:03 cardiomyopathy, well, heart specialist 39:03 cardiomyopathy, well, heart specialist for dogs. Yeah. And when I was talking 39:06 for dogs. Yeah. And when I was talking 39:06 for dogs. Yeah. And when I was talking to other vets, there there was I feed my 39:09 to other vets, there there was I feed my 39:09 to other vets, there there was I feed my dogs raw. 39:11 dogs raw. 39:11 dogs raw. So, I'll got a big big freezer full of 39:14 So, I'll got a big big freezer full of 39:14 So, I'll got a big big freezer full of like chicken. They eat they eat amazing 39:16 like chicken. They eat they eat amazing 39:16 like chicken. They eat they eat amazing chicken, salmon, duck, rabbit. Do you 39:20 chicken, salmon, duck, rabbit. Do you 39:20 chicken, salmon, duck, rabbit. Do you know it's all frozen and I'll get kibble 39:23 know it's all frozen and I'll get kibble 39:23 know it's all frozen and I'll get kibble and I'll just mix a bit in, not loads 39:24 and I'll just mix a bit in, not loads 39:24 and I'll just mix a bit in, not loads cuz there's a lot of protein and they 39:26 cuz there's a lot of protein and they 39:26 cuz there's a lot of protein and they can put weight on but just a bit. And oh 39:29 can put weight on but just a bit. And oh 39:29 can put weight on but just a bit. And oh no, you know, we've come a long way. 39:30 no, you know, we've come a long way. 39:30 no, you know, we've come a long way. Your kibble has all of that in it. You 39:32 Your kibble has all of that in it. You 39:32 Your kibble has all of that in it. You don't need to be doing that. It's really 39:33 don't need to be doing that. It's really 39:33 don't need to be doing that. It's really dangerous. I speak to Dr. Love and he's 39:35 dangerous. I speak to Dr. Love and he's 39:35 dangerous. I speak to Dr. Love and he's like, "Well, I just see nothing wrong 39:36 like, "Well, I just see nothing wrong 39:36 like, "Well, I just see nothing wrong with that. Like, if they're thriving on 39:38 with that. Like, if they're thriving on 39:38 with that. Like, if they're thriving on that, what's the problem?" And then I 39:41 that, what's the problem?" And then I 39:41 that, what's the problem?" And then I said, "And I get my kibble from little." 39:42 said, "And I get my kibble from little." 39:42 said, "And I get my kibble from little." and he's he's like absolutely fine. 39:44 and he's he's like absolutely fine. 39:44 and he's he's like absolutely fine. There's nothing wrong with that either. 39:46 There's nothing wrong with that either. 39:46 There's nothing wrong with that either. >> Yeah. 39:47 >> Yeah. 39:47 >> Yeah. >> And he would be the one who to tell me 39:48 >> And he would be the one who to tell me 39:48 >> And he would be the one who to tell me different. Um and they're thriving. 39:52 different. Um and they're thriving. 39:52 different. Um and they're thriving. >> So there you go. So that that's what I'm 39:53 >> So there you go. So that that's what I'm 39:53 >> So there you go. So that that's what I'm saying again. It's like get back to 39:54 saying again. It's like get back to 39:54 saying again. It's like get back to basics sometimes, isn't it? Yeah. Nature 39:57 basics sometimes, isn't it? Yeah. Nature 39:57 basics sometimes, isn't it? Yeah. Nature provides. Absolutely. And if we provide 40:00 provides. Absolutely. And if we provide 40:00 provides. Absolutely. And if we provide our bodies with the nutrition that it 40:01 our bodies with the nutrition that it 40:02 our bodies with the nutrition that it needs, it's far better than popping a 40:04 needs, it's far better than popping a 40:04 needs, it's far better than popping a pill. Yeah. It's far better than popping 40:06 pill. Yeah. It's far better than popping 40:06 pill. Yeah. It's far better than popping a pill. And the body were actually 40:07 a pill. And the body were actually 40:07 a pill. And the body were actually giving it the tools that it needs to 40:09 giving it the tools that it needs to 40:09 giving it the tools that it needs to heal itself. 40:11 heal itself. 40:11 heal itself. It's not It's not hard, is it? 40:12 It's not It's not hard, is it? 40:12 It's not It's not hard, is it? >> No. 40:13 >> No. 40:13 >> No. >> Do you think it's a lot about I mean, 40:16 >> Do you think it's a lot about I mean, 40:16 >> Do you think it's a lot about I mean, I'm just going to put this out there cuz 40:17 I'm just going to put this out there cuz 40:17 I'm just going to put this out there cuz you might. 40:17 you might. 40:17 you might. >> Go for it. 40:19 >> Go for it. 40:19 >> Go for it. >> It's a lot about money making 100%. 40:23 >> It's a lot about money making 100%. 40:23 >> It's a lot about money making 100%. You were going to say that money making 40:25 You were going to say that money making 40:25 You were going to say that money making >> 100%. It's the money making from the 40:30 >> 100%. It's the money making from the 40:30 >> 100%. It's the money making from the food industry, from big farmer. 40:33 food industry, from big farmer. 40:33 food industry, from big farmer. how that all links in to the government 40:36 how that all links in to the government 40:36 how that all links in to the government of the country and the big businesses 40:38 of the country and the big businesses 40:38 of the country and the big businesses that are involved in both of those 40:41 that are involved in both of those 40:41 that are involved in both of those industries. And it goes all the way 40:43 industries. And it goes all the way 40:43 industries. And it goes all the way back, in my belief, to the education 40:45 back, in my belief, to the education 40:45 back, in my belief, to the education system 40:47 system 40:47 system and medicine. I'm not leaving any of 40:48 and medicine. I'm not leaving any of 40:48 and medicine. I'm not leaving any of them out. They're all guilty. They're 40:50 them out. They're all guilty. They're 40:50 them out. They're all guilty. They're all guilty. They are, 40:51 all guilty. They are, 40:51 all guilty. They are, >> you know, where we're told, 40:54 >> you know, where we're told, 40:54 >> you know, where we're told, you know, this is what you need to do 40:56 you know, this is what you need to do 40:56 you know, this is what you need to do and this is how you need to do it. I 40:58 and this is how you need to do it. I 40:58 and this is how you need to do it. I mean, when was it? back in 41:00 mean, when was it? back in 41:00 mean, when was it? back in >> in the postwar period period. I mean 41:03 >> in the postwar period period. I mean 41:03 >> in the postwar period period. I mean that was a very long time ago now 41:05 that was a very long time ago now 41:05 that was a very long time ago now obviously for but that was when they 41:08 obviously for but that was when they 41:08 obviously for but that was when they turned the food requirements on the 41:10 turned the food requirements on the 41:10 turned the food requirements on the head. 41:12 head. 41:12 head. >> All right. And made it that you know 41:15 >> All right. And made it that you know 41:15 >> All right. And made it that you know your grains, your carbohydrates, 41:17 your grains, your carbohydrates, 41:17 your grains, your carbohydrates, your starches had to be the biggest 41:20 your starches had to be the biggest 41:20 your starches had to be the biggest thing on your plate. 41:21 thing on your plate. 41:21 thing on your plate. >> Okay? 41:22 >> Okay? 41:22 >> Okay? >> Because that was what was more easily 41:24 >> Because that was what was more easily 41:24 >> Because that was what was more easily accessible 41:26 accessible 41:26 accessible and cheaper to produce. And that was all 41:28 and cheaper to produce. And that was all 41:28 and cheaper to produce. And that was all governed by companies. Here we go. 41:31 governed by companies. Here we go. 41:31 governed by companies. Here we go. Companies like Kelloggs and other big 41:33 Companies like Kelloggs and other big 41:33 Companies like Kelloggs and other big names. Sorry, Kelloggs, but I can't 41:35 names. Sorry, Kelloggs, but I can't 41:35 names. Sorry, Kelloggs, but I can't think of any more at the moment. But 41:37 think of any more at the moment. But 41:37 think of any more at the moment. But lots of other big food companies out 41:39 lots of other big food companies out 41:39 lots of other big food companies out there who could make an absolute fortune 41:43 there who could make an absolute fortune 41:43 there who could make an absolute fortune >> from selling people a product that no 41:45 >> from selling people a product that no 41:45 >> from selling people a product that no doubt they have curated and researched 41:47 doubt they have curated and researched 41:47 doubt they have curated and researched and think is wonderful, but in terms of 41:48 and think is wonderful, but in terms of 41:48 and think is wonderful, but in terms of what the human body needs for nutrition, 41:52 what the human body needs for nutrition, 41:52 what the human body needs for nutrition, it's [ __ ] Yeah. 41:55 it's [ __ ] Yeah. 41:55 it's [ __ ] Yeah. and and the whole food industry is 41:56 and and the whole food industry is 41:56 and and the whole food industry is another thing, isn't it? And the psych 41:59 another thing, isn't it? And the psych 41:59 another thing, isn't it? And the psych psych psychology behind that. So, what I 42:01 psych psychology behind that. So, what I 42:01 psych psychology behind that. So, what I found is so when I'm I've had to work 42:03 found is so when I'm I've had to work 42:04 found is so when I'm I've had to work full time the last couple of years 42:05 full time the last couple of years 42:05 full time the last couple of years through a breakup, but um but my 42:09 through a breakup, but um but my 42:09 through a breakup, but um but my thinking is 42:12 thinking is 42:12 thinking is my thinking is they exploit workers. So, 42:16 my thinking is they exploit workers. So, 42:16 my thinking is they exploit workers. So, you're working, you're paying more tax, 42:18 you're working, you're paying more tax, 42:18 you're working, you're paying more tax, you're paying more, you you know, you're 42:20 you're paying more, you you know, you're 42:20 you're paying more, you you know, you're working all of the time, you're 42:22 working all of the time, you're 42:22 working all of the time, you're stressed, you've got no time, you're 42:24 stressed, you've got no time, you're 42:24 stressed, you've got no time, you're going to the supermarkets, they're 42:25 going to the supermarkets, they're 42:25 going to the supermarkets, they're designed to make you buy all the 42:27 designed to make you buy all the 42:27 designed to make you buy all the rubbish. And the more it says this is 42:29 rubbish. And the more it says this is 42:29 rubbish. And the more it says this is full of protein, the more it isn't. Do 42:31 full of protein, the more it isn't. Do 42:31 full of protein, the more it isn't. Do you know there's like all of these 42:33 you know there's like all of these 42:33 you know there's like all of these things that you haven't got the time or 42:34 things that you haven't got the time or 42:34 things that you haven't got the time or the brain energy to even think about 42:36 the brain energy to even think about 42:36 the brain energy to even think about eating healthily half the time? 42:38 eating healthily half the time? 42:38 eating healthily half the time? >> And they're just making money off you. 42:39 >> And they're just making money off you. 42:40 >> And they're just making money off you. Yeah. And all this stuff about low fat 42:42 Yeah. And all this stuff about low fat 42:42 Yeah. And all this stuff about low fat is good for you. Well, excuse me. Let's 42:44 is good for you. Well, excuse me. Let's 42:44 is good for you. Well, excuse me. Let's go back to, you know, thousands of years 42:48 go back to, you know, thousands of years 42:48 go back to, you know, thousands of years ago before there were shops, you know, 42:51 ago before there were shops, you know, 42:51 ago before there were shops, you know, or populations that are still scattered 42:53 or populations that are still scattered 42:53 or populations that are still scattered around the world that have very little 42:55 around the world that have very little 42:55 around the world that have very little contact with the outside world and still 42:57 contact with the outside world and still 42:57 contact with the outside world and still live within their own environment. 42:59 live within their own environment. 42:59 live within their own environment. >> Yeah. 43:00 >> Yeah. 43:00 >> Yeah. >> They eat from the land. 43:03 >> They eat from the land. 43:03 >> They eat from the land. >> Mhm. 43:04 >> Mhm. 43:04 >> Mhm. >> You know, they eat from what there is 43:05 >> You know, they eat from what there is 43:06 >> You know, they eat from what there is around them in their own environment 43:08 around them in their own environment 43:08 around them in their own environment and 43:09 and 43:09 and >> and take what they need. 43:10 >> and take what they need. 43:10 >> and take what they need. >> And take what they need and nurture the 43:12 >> And take what they need and nurture the 43:12 >> And take what they need and nurture the rest. Mhm. 43:14 rest. Mhm. 43:14 rest. Mhm. >> Generally speaking, we don't see any of 43:16 >> Generally speaking, we don't see any of 43:16 >> Generally speaking, we don't see any of them being fat. 43:17 them being fat. 43:17 them being fat. >> No, 43:18 >> No, 43:18 >> No, >> we don't see any of them being tanked up 43:20 >> we don't see any of them being tanked up 43:20 >> we don't see any of them being tanked up on medications 43:22 on medications 43:22 on medications >> because they're providing their body 43:24 >> because they're providing their body 43:24 >> because they're providing their body natural 43:25 natural 43:25 natural >> natural medication, too. 43:27 >> natural medication, too. 43:27 >> natural medication, too. >> Nourishment and seasonal nourishment as 43:30 >> Nourishment and seasonal nourishment as 43:30 >> Nourishment and seasonal nourishment as well. We don't have any seasons in our 43:32 well. We don't have any seasons in our 43:32 well. We don't have any seasons in our food anymore 43:34 food anymore 43:34 food anymore >> cuz our bodies need different things 43:37 >> cuz our bodies need different things 43:37 >> cuz our bodies need different things during the winter than what they need 43:39 during the winter than what they need 43:39 during the winter than what they need during the summer. And yet we are 43:41 during the summer. And yet we are 43:41 during the summer. And yet we are provided with everything all year round 43:43 provided with everything all year round 43:43 provided with everything all year round pretty much. 43:46 pretty much. 43:46 pretty much. >> Bodies don't work like that. But where's 43:48 >> Bodies don't work like that. But where's 43:48 >> Bodies don't work like that. But where's the education around that anyway? Where 43:51 the education around that anyway? Where 43:51 the education around that anyway? Where is the people don't know? And then you 43:52 is the people don't know? And then you 43:52 is the people don't know? And then you know I do think things are expensive as 43:54 know I do think things are expensive as 43:54 know I do think things are expensive as well. It's easier to go in and I mean I 43:57 well. It's easier to go in and I mean I 43:57 well. It's easier to go in and I mean I don't not saying everything's I mean 43:58 don't not saying everything's I mean 43:58 don't not saying everything's I mean everything's gone up but I don't know. 44:00 everything's gone up but I don't know. 44:00 everything's gone up but I don't know. I've seen these protein meals and it's 44:03 I've seen these protein meals and it's 44:03 I've seen these protein meals and it's and it's just easy to get one of them 44:05 and it's just easy to get one of them 44:05 and it's just easy to get one of them for like £2.75. shot it in the 44:07 for like £2.75. shot it in the 44:07 for like £2.75. shot it in the microwave. That looks quite healthy cuz 44:09 microwave. That looks quite healthy cuz 44:09 microwave. That looks quite healthy cuz it's got a bit of chicken and a bit of 44:10 it's got a bit of chicken and a bit of 44:10 it's got a bit of chicken and a bit of rice in it. I I don't don't know cuz I 44:13 rice in it. I I don't don't know cuz I 44:13 rice in it. I I don't don't know cuz I can't be bothered to look at the actual 44:14 can't be bothered to look at the actual 44:14 can't be bothered to look at the actual back of it and I wouldn't know what half 44:16 back of it and I wouldn't know what half 44:16 back of it and I wouldn't know what half of it is anyway. um than if you're 44:19 of it is anyway. um than if you're 44:19 of it is anyway. um than if you're working and you've got no time. This is 44:21 working and you've got no time. This is 44:21 working and you've got no time. This is to source pure stuff and think about 44:24 to source pure stuff and think about 44:24 to source pure stuff and think about what I'm going to eat tonight and think 44:25 what I'm going to eat tonight and think 44:25 what I'm going to eat tonight and think about this and and this is where this is 44:28 about this and and this is where this is 44:28 about this and and this is where this is where they get you and it's 44:30 where they get you and it's 44:30 where they get you and it's >> yeah and but then we're suffering 44:33 >> yeah and but then we're suffering 44:33 >> yeah and but then we're suffering physically as a result of what we're 44:34 physically as a result of what we're 44:34 physically as a result of what we're putting in our bodies and then that's 44:36 putting in our bodies and then that's 44:36 putting in our bodies and then that's more strain on the NHS and that's most 44:38 more strain on the NHS and that's most 44:38 more strain on the NHS and that's most strain on everything. So what is going 44:39 strain on everything. So what is going 44:39 strain on everything. So what is going on? 44:40 on? 44:40 on? >> I think we need a reset. I think if it 44:43 >> I think we need a reset. I think if it 44:43 >> I think we need a reset. I think if it was taught if if if we were taught in 44:46 was taught if if if we were taught in 44:46 was taught if if if we were taught in schools the priority of being a human 44:49 schools the priority of being a human 44:49 schools the priority of being a human and functioning in the world above 44:52 and functioning in the world above 44:52 and functioning in the world above academic qualifications. 44:54 academic qualifications. 44:54 academic qualifications. If we were taught how our body actually 44:58 If we were taught how our body actually 44:58 If we were taught how our body actually uses food and therefore what we need to 45:00 uses food and therefore what we need to 45:00 uses food and therefore what we need to put in it, how to find those things, how 45:03 put in it, how to find those things, how 45:03 put in it, how to find those things, how to cook with those things, 45:06 to cook with those things, 45:06 to cook with those things, >> we wouldn't be in a place now in my 45:09 >> we wouldn't be in a place now in my 45:09 >> we wouldn't be in a place now in my opinion where we need so much medication 45:12 opinion where we need so much medication 45:12 opinion where we need so much medication and intervention and we wouldn't be 45:15 and intervention and we wouldn't be 45:15 and intervention and we wouldn't be pummeling a shedload of money into big 45:17 pummeling a shedload of money into big 45:17 pummeling a shedload of money into big farmer and to these big food 45:19 farmer and to these big food 45:19 farmer and to these big food corporations 45:20 corporations 45:20 corporations that are just filling us full of E 45:22 that are just filling us full of E 45:22 that are just filling us full of E numbers and preservatives And you know, 45:24 numbers and preservatives And you know, 45:24 numbers and preservatives And you know, you look on the back of a packet and 45:25 you look on the back of a packet and 45:25 you look on the back of a packet and there's like the top two ingredients are 45:28 there's like the top two ingredients are 45:28 there's like the top two ingredients are generally water and some kind of either 45:31 generally water and some kind of either 45:31 generally water and some kind of either sugar or synthetic oil. 45:33 sugar or synthetic oil. 45:33 sugar or synthetic oil. >> Yeah. 45:34 >> Yeah. 45:34 >> Yeah. >> And you're like, well, what what does my 45:37 >> And you're like, well, what what does my 45:37 >> And you're like, well, what what does my body water? Yeah. Okay. But the rest, 45:39 body water? Yeah. Okay. But the rest, 45:39 body water? Yeah. Okay. But the rest, what does my body need with that? 45:41 what does my body need with that? 45:41 what does my body need with that? >> Like, so what? So, going back to the 45:44 >> Like, so what? So, going back to the 45:44 >> Like, so what? So, going back to the women only wellness community. 45:46 women only wellness community. 45:46 women only wellness community. I mean, we I'm talking about a snapshot 45:48 I mean, we I'm talking about a snapshot 45:48 I mean, we I'm talking about a snapshot of this because it's only for a weekend, 45:51 of this because it's only for a weekend, 45:51 of this because it's only for a weekend, >> but we all all of us are saying, right, 45:54 >> but we all all of us are saying, right, 45:54 >> but we all all of us are saying, right, that we could live like that. We would I 45:57 that we could live like that. We would I 45:57 that we could live like that. We would I mean, I know we have community, but I'm 45:58 mean, I know we have community, but I'm 45:58 mean, I know we have community, but I'm on about like we could all whenever you 46:01 on about like we could all whenever you 46:01 on about like we could all whenever you want to speak to somebody and there's 46:03 want to speak to somebody and there's 46:03 want to speak to somebody and there's all of these women around. I mean, I 46:06 all of these women around. I mean, I 46:06 all of these women around. I mean, I don't I'm not I don't know even know 46:07 don't I'm not I don't know even know 46:07 don't I'm not I don't know even know where men are fitting right now. I'm 46:09 where men are fitting right now. I'm 46:09 where men are fitting right now. I'm really sorry, but like 46:11 really sorry, but like 46:11 really sorry, but like >> um it's so we're we're we're supporting 46:15 >> um it's so we're we're we're supporting 46:15 >> um it's so we're we're we're supporting each other. I could do you know like I 46:18 each other. I could do you know like I 46:18 each other. I could do you know like I was even putting up this I don't know if 46:20 was even putting up this I don't know if 46:20 was even putting up this I don't know if you heard of a red tent. It's when years 46:22 you heard of a red tent. It's when years 46:22 you heard of a red tent. It's when years ago uh women used to be um uh sent to 46:25 ago uh women used to be um uh sent to 46:25 ago uh women used to be um uh sent to the red tent 46:26 the red tent 46:26 the red tent >> when they were menrating. 46:27 >> when they were menrating. 46:27 >> when they were menrating. >> Yeah. And they would be crafting and 46:29 >> Yeah. And they would be crafting and 46:29 >> Yeah. And they would be crafting and things. So a couple of years ago we had 46:31 things. So a couple of years ago we had 46:31 things. So a couple of years ago we had a red tent. We just happened to get one 46:33 a red tent. We just happened to get one 46:33 a red tent. We just happened to get one of the farmer cuz he's really into 46:34 of the farmer cuz he's really into 46:34 of the farmer cuz he's really into mental the mental health and the men's 46:36 mental the mental health and the men's 46:36 mental the mental health and the men's side and really supportive and he left 46:38 side and really supportive and he left 46:38 side and really supportive and he left it up so we used it. Um, 46:42 it up so we used it. Um, 46:42 it up so we used it. Um, and 46:44 and 46:44 and the tent was tied in knots, a knot that 46:47 the tent was tied in knots, a knot that 46:47 the tent was tied in knots, a knot that I I had no idea what that knot was. And 46:49 I I had no idea what that knot was. And 46:49 I I had no idea what that knot was. And I always say the universe will put 46:51 I always say the universe will put 46:51 I always say the universe will put whatever the universe is to you. Like it 46:53 whatever the universe is to you. Like it 46:53 whatever the universe is to you. Like it could be anything, nature, whatever your 46:55 could be anything, nature, whatever your 46:55 could be anything, nature, whatever your higher power is, you know. Um, so 46:59 higher power is, you know. Um, so 46:59 higher power is, you know. Um, so puts in my puts people in my way, puts 47:02 puts in my puts people in my way, puts 47:02 puts in my puts people in my way, puts things in my way. And it's not 47:03 things in my way. And it's not 47:03 things in my way. And it's not coincidence. 47:04 coincidence. 47:04 coincidence. >> It 100% isn't coincidence. So I don't 47:07 >> It 100% isn't coincidence. So I don't 47:07 >> It 100% isn't coincidence. So I don't go, "Oh, I've just met this person." I'm 47:08 go, "Oh, I've just met this person." I'm 47:08 go, "Oh, I've just met this person." I'm like, wonder why I'm meeting this person 47:10 like, wonder why I'm meeting this person 47:10 like, wonder why I'm meeting this person today. Yeah, there's something bigger in 47:13 today. Yeah, there's something bigger in 47:13 today. Yeah, there's something bigger in this. And so this woman walks past and 47:16 this. And so this woman walks past and 47:16 this. And so this woman walks past and says, "You wouldn't know how to do this 47:17 says, "You wouldn't know how to do this 47:17 says, "You wouldn't know how to do this knot, would you? Of course I did. I did 47:18 knot, would you? Of course I did. I did 47:18 knot, would you? Of course I did. I did like I was in the girl guides and I 47:20 like I was in the girl guides and I 47:20 like I was in the girl guides and I taught this and I did that and I did 47:22 taught this and I did that and I did 47:22 taught this and I did that and I did that and of course I know how to undo 47:23 that and of course I know how to undo 47:23 that and of course I know how to undo that knot." I was, "Of course you did." 47:25 that knot." I was, "Of course you did." 47:25 that knot." I was, "Of course you did." >> Yeah. 47:26 >> Yeah. 47:26 >> Yeah. >> Of course you know. 47:27 >> Of course you know. 47:28 >> Of course you know. >> Yeah. 47:28 >> Yeah. 47:28 >> Yeah. >> And this kept these are our wow moments 47:30 >> And this kept these are our wow moments 47:30 >> And this kept these are our wow moments that keep happening all the time and the 47:31 that keep happening all the time and the 47:32 that keep happening all the time and the stories underneath. 47:33 stories underneath. 47:34 stories underneath. Um, but the community side of it, like 47:36 Um, but the community side of it, like 47:36 Um, but the community side of it, like there's always someone I can ask or 47:37 there's always someone I can ask or 47:37 there's always someone I can ask or speak to that will 47:41 speak to that will 47:41 speak to that will help in whatever way that they can or 47:44 help in whatever way that they can or 47:44 help in whatever way that they can or you know, just the healing, just the the 47:46 you know, just the healing, just the the 47:46 you know, just the healing, just the the being there for each other, the unity. 47:49 being there for each other, the unity. 47:49 being there for each other, the unity. >> Yeah. And that's the way it used to be, 47:51 >> Yeah. And that's the way it used to be, 47:51 >> Yeah. And that's the way it used to be, isn't it? 47:52 isn't it? 47:52 isn't it? >> Yeah. That's the way it used to be, 47:54 >> Yeah. That's the way it used to be, 47:54 >> Yeah. That's the way it used to be, isn't it? When we lived in tribes and, 47:56 isn't it? When we lived in tribes and, 47:56 isn't it? When we lived in tribes and, you know, smaller populations. 47:58 you know, smaller populations. 47:58 you know, smaller populations. >> I mean, lot of hopes. I think it was. M 48:00 >> I mean, lot of hopes. I think it was. M 48:00 >> I mean, lot of hopes. I think it was. M there wasn't all of this just for me and 48:03 there wasn't all of this just for me and 48:03 there wasn't all of this just for me and this greed and this this class system 48:05 this greed and this this class system 48:05 this greed and this this class system and 48:07 and 48:07 and not to the I don't I don't even know 48:10 not to the I don't I don't even know 48:10 not to the I don't I don't even know what else to say. 48:12 what else to say. 48:12 what else to say. >> I mean that's what we're always told 48:14 >> I mean that's what we're always told 48:14 >> I mean that's what we're always told isn't it that you know the the tribes 48:15 isn't it that you know the the tribes 48:16 isn't it that you know the the tribes were self-sufficient and 48:17 were self-sufficient and 48:17 were self-sufficient and >> people played to their strengths 48:19 >> people played to their strengths 48:19 >> people played to their strengths whatever that might have been. 48:20 whatever that might have been. 48:20 whatever that might have been. >> Yeah. 48:21 >> Yeah. 48:21 >> Yeah. >> You know it might well have been 48:22 >> You know it might well have been 48:22 >> You know it might well have been traditionally that the men were the 48:24 traditionally that the men were the 48:24 traditionally that the men were the hunter gatherers and the women you know 48:26 hunter gatherers and the women you know 48:26 hunter gatherers and the women you know did the child care and which is where 48:27 did the child care and which is where 48:27 did the child care and which is where our traditional values come from. But 48:30 our traditional values come from. But 48:30 our traditional values come from. But that's playing to a person's strengths. 48:32 that's playing to a person's strengths. 48:32 that's playing to a person's strengths. It's not about the gender as such. 48:34 It's not about the gender as such. 48:34 It's not about the gender as such. >> Yeah. 48:35 >> Yeah. 48:35 >> Yeah. >> It just happens that men tend to be 48:39 >> It just happens that men tend to be 48:39 >> It just happens that men tend to be >> stronger than women generally speaking. 48:41 >> stronger than women generally speaking. 48:41 >> stronger than women generally speaking. >> Yeah. 48:41 >> Yeah. 48:41 >> Yeah. >> You know, and women are tend to be 48:44 >> You know, and women are tend to be 48:44 >> You know, and women are tend to be better nurturers. But again, not all. 48:47 better nurturers. But again, not all. 48:47 better nurturers. But again, not all. >> No. Exactly. 48:48 >> No. Exactly. 48:48 >> No. Exactly. >> You know, 48:50 >> You know, 48:50 >> You know, and there's no gender in a healer. 48:53 and there's no gender in a healer. 48:53 and there's no gender in a healer. >> No, there isn't. 48:56 >> No, there isn't. 48:56 >> No, there isn't. So, you know, it gen that's my belief 48:59 So, you know, it gen that's my belief 48:59 So, you know, it gen that's my belief that, you know, we were all there as a 49:01 that, you know, we were all there as a 49:02 that, you know, we were all there as a community so that we could all play to 49:03 community so that we could all play to 49:03 community so that we could all play to our strengths for the strength of the 49:05 our strengths for the strength of the 49:05 our strengths for the strength of the tribe, for the strength of everybody, so 49:07 tribe, for the strength of everybody, so 49:08 tribe, for the strength of everybody, so that we all survived and we all did 49:09 that we all survived and we all did 49:09 that we all survived and we all did well. 49:15 And now we're just put in little silos 49:15 And now we're just put in little silos and kept apart, aren't we? Which is why 49:18 and kept apart, aren't we? Which is why 49:18 and kept apart, aren't we? Which is why your event, 49:20 your event, 49:20 your event, we are kept apart, divided, and conquer. 49:22 we are kept apart, divided, and conquer. 49:22 we are kept apart, divided, and conquer. Yeah. That's why your event is so 49:24 Yeah. That's why your event is so 49:24 Yeah. That's why your event is so empowering because people from different 49:27 empowering because people from different 49:27 empowering because people from different walks of life come together that have 49:29 walks of life come together that have 49:30 walks of life come together that have had different experiences 49:32 had different experiences 49:32 had different experiences >> and can each contribute different things 49:36 >> and can each contribute different things 49:36 >> and can each contribute different things >> can provide their strengths. 49:38 >> can provide their strengths. 49:38 >> can provide their strengths. >> Great way of putting it. 49:40 >> Great way of putting it. 49:40 >> Great way of putting it. >> Thank you. 49:41 >> Thank you. 49:41 >> Thank you. >> I like that one. I'll use that one. 49:43 >> I like that one. I'll use that one. 49:43 >> I like that one. I'll use that one. >> Feel free. 49:44 >> Feel free. 49:44 >> Feel free. >> But but it is, isn't it? M 49:46 >> But but it is, isn't it? M 49:46 >> But but it is, isn't it? M >> provide their strength and you know 49:47 >> provide their strength and you know 49:47 >> provide their strength and you know they're celebrated 49:49 they're celebrated 49:49 they're celebrated and and and we we're it's not like oh 49:51 and and and we we're it's not like oh 49:51 and and and we we're it's not like oh god it's we're trying not to have this 49:53 god it's we're trying not to have this 49:53 god it's we're trying not to have this competition. It's like brilliant. I'm 49:56 competition. It's like brilliant. I'm 49:56 competition. It's like brilliant. I'm getting celebrated so we're going to 49:57 getting celebrated so we're going to 49:57 getting celebrated so we're going to celebrate you as well 49:59 celebrate you as well 49:59 celebrate you as well >> and we're all going to celebrate each 50:00 >> and we're all going to celebrate each 50:00 >> and we're all going to celebrate each other 50:01 other 50:01 other >> and we're all going to rise together and 50:03 >> and we're all going to rise together and 50:03 >> and we're all going to rise together and cuz there's enough food to go around. 50:06 cuz there's enough food to go around. 50:06 cuz there's enough food to go around. That's the idea. 50:07 That's the idea. 50:07 That's the idea. >> Yes. 50:08 >> Yes. 50:08 >> Yes. >> Yeah. We're trying. If it isn't then we 50:10 >> Yeah. We're trying. If it isn't then we 50:10 >> Yeah. We're trying. If it isn't then we all go hungry. 50:11 all go hungry. 50:11 all go hungry. >> Exactly. 50:14 >> Exactly. 50:14 >> Exactly. Somebody said, I can't remember who said 50:16 Somebody said, I can't remember who said 50:16 Somebody said, I can't remember who said it, 50:18 it, 50:18 it, go where you celebrated, not tolerated. 50:20 go where you celebrated, not tolerated. 50:20 go where you celebrated, not tolerated. >> Yeah, I hear that a lot, that you have a 50:23 >> Yeah, I hear that a lot, that you have a 50:23 >> Yeah, I hear that a lot, that you have a seat at my table. 50:25 seat at my table. 50:25 seat at my table. >> It's, 50:27 >> It's, 50:27 >> It's, you know, if you know, we're not going 50:29 you know, if you know, we're not going 50:30 you know, if you know, we're not going to get on with absolutely everybody. 50:32 to get on with absolutely everybody. 50:32 to get on with absolutely everybody. >> No. 50:33 >> No. 50:33 >> No. >> So, and there's nothing wrong with that. 50:34 >> So, and there's nothing wrong with that. 50:34 >> So, and there's nothing wrong with that. >> No. 50:36 >> No. 50:36 >> No. >> You know, so just mutually go elsewhere. 50:39 >> You know, so just mutually go elsewhere. 50:39 >> You know, so just mutually go elsewhere. >> Yeah. 50:41 >> Yeah. 50:42 >> Yeah. which is why if there's a community you 50:43 which is why if there's a community you 50:43 which is why if there's a community you can you feel free to go where you want 50:45 can you feel free to go where you want 50:45 can you feel free to go where you want and and you don't know what people are 50:47 and and you don't know what people are 50:47 and and you don't know what people are what what's going on for that person 50:48 what what's going on for that person 50:48 what what's going on for that person that you're actually not getting on with 50:49 that you're actually not getting on with 50:49 that you're actually not getting on with that day anyway do you so just 50:52 that day anyway do you so just 50:52 that day anyway do you so just >> it it just evolves and it just 50:54 >> it it just evolves and it just 50:54 >> it it just evolves and it just everybody's there for each other and 50:56 everybody's there for each other and 50:56 everybody's there for each other and >> because there's just too much 50:57 >> because there's just too much 50:58 >> because there's just too much competition and too much climbing to the 51:01 competition and too much climbing to the 51:01 competition and too much climbing to the top of career ladders and trying to be 51:03 top of career ladders and trying to be 51:03 top of career ladders and trying to be like men to do that and then the men you 51:05 like men to do that and then the men you 51:05 like men to do that and then the men you know the podcast I was listening to was 51:07 know the podcast I was listening to was 51:07 know the podcast I was listening to was still about women CEOs you know there's 51:10 still about women CEOs you know there's 51:10 still about women CEOs you know there's still only % at but they they would be 51:12 still only % at but they they would be 51:12 still only % at but they they would be women CEOs at like 56 and then after 51:15 women CEOs at like 56 and then after 51:16 women CEOs at like 56 and then after that we're just invisible and kind of 51:18 that we're just invisible and kind of 51:18 that we're just invisible and kind of and even getting to that is hard enough 51:20 and even getting to that is hard enough 51:20 and even getting to that is hard enough and it's male-dominated and it's still 51:22 and it's male-dominated and it's still 51:22 and it's male-dominated and it's still unfortunately there's still a lot of 51:23 unfortunately there's still a lot of 51:23 unfortunately there's still a lot of that 51:24 that 51:24 that >> a lot um and so it's tough for us so 51:27 >> a lot um and so it's tough for us so 51:27 >> a lot um and so it's tough for us so what so as women we need to stick 51:29 what so as women we need to stick 51:30 what so as women we need to stick together 51:31 together 51:31 together why why you know why aren't we sitting 51:34 why why you know why aren't we sitting 51:34 why why you know why aren't we sitting that's what we need to do 51:37 that's what we need to do 51:37 that's what we need to do >> because we need to survive ourselves we 51:40 >> because we need to survive ourselves we 51:40 >> because we need to survive ourselves we need to thrive. And it's not so long ago 51:41 need to thrive. And it's not so long ago 51:41 need to thrive. And it's not so long ago that we got the we did we didn't get the 51:43 that we got the we did we didn't get the 51:43 that we got the we did we didn't get the vote. We got the vote. 51:46 vote. We got the vote. 51:46 vote. We got the vote. >> Um what else could we not do years ago 51:49 >> Um what else could we not do years ago 51:49 >> Um what else could we not do years ago that we can do now? Um but not that long 51:51 that we can do now? Um but not that long 51:51 that we can do now? Um but not that long ago. All 51:52 ago. All 51:52 ago. All >> sorts. Couldn't go to school. Couldn't 51:54 >> sorts. Couldn't go to school. Couldn't 51:54 >> sorts. Couldn't go to school. Couldn't get any kind of further education. 51:55 get any kind of further education. 51:55 get any kind of further education. >> God. 51:57 >> God. 51:57 >> God. >> And you forget that, don't you? Cuz you 51:59 >> And you forget that, don't you? Cuz you 51:59 >> And you forget that, don't you? Cuz you think you've got and then sometimes I 52:00 think you've got and then sometimes I 52:00 think you've got and then sometimes I think we we can do too much and then 52:02 think we we can do too much and then 52:02 think we we can do too much and then really do I just want to be a wife at 52:03 really do I just want to be a wife at 52:03 really do I just want to be a wife at home with the kids? I don't know. Um but 52:05 home with the kids? I don't know. Um but 52:06 home with the kids? I don't know. Um but no, I I definitely like the choice um 52:09 no, I I definitely like the choice um 52:09 no, I I definitely like the choice um balance. I think but not being told that 52:11 balance. I think but not being told that 52:11 balance. I think but not being told that I can't do this or I can't do that or 52:13 I can't do this or I can't do that or 52:13 I can't do this or I can't do that or I'm not worthy anymore because I'm not 52:15 I'm not worthy anymore because I'm not 52:16 I'm not worthy anymore because I'm not the media in the media's eyes. This is 52:17 the media in the media's eyes. This is 52:17 the media in the media's eyes. This is this podcast that I'm not 20 years old 52:19 this podcast that I'm not 20 years old 52:19 this podcast that I'm not 20 years old and I'm not playing up to the patriarchy 52:20 and I'm not playing up to the patriarchy 52:20 and I'm not playing up to the patriarchy by looking like a page three girl or you 52:24 by looking like a page three girl or you 52:24 by looking like a page three girl or you know I think we bring wisdom and our age 52:27 know I think we bring wisdom and our age 52:27 know I think we bring wisdom and our age as well. I'm going on to age now but as 52:30 as well. I'm going on to age now but as 52:30 as well. I'm going on to age now but as the women as a community so that what 52:31 the women as a community so that what 52:31 the women as a community so that what I'm saying is nobody should be feeling 52:33 I'm saying is nobody should be feeling 52:33 I'm saying is nobody should be feeling visible either. 52:34 visible either. 52:34 visible either. >> Do you know we should all be supporting 52:35 >> Do you know we should all be supporting 52:36 >> Do you know we should all be supporting each other wherever stage of life we're 52:37 each other wherever stage of life we're 52:37 each other wherever stage of life we're at. 52:38 at. 52:38 at. >> Yes. and not feel. So, we shouldn't be 52:40 >> Yes. and not feel. So, we shouldn't be 52:40 >> Yes. and not feel. So, we shouldn't be invisible. And it's it's not a midlife 52:42 invisible. And it's it's not a midlife 52:42 invisible. And it's it's not a midlife crisis. It's a midlife catalyst. 52:45 crisis. It's a midlife catalyst. 52:45 crisis. It's a midlife catalyst. >> Yeah. An awakening. 52:47 >> Yeah. An awakening. 52:47 >> Yeah. An awakening. I've never been happier than I am at my 52:48 I've never been happier than I am at my 52:48 I've never been happier than I am at my age, you know. 52:49 age, you know. 52:49 age, you know. >> Wonderful. 52:51 >> Wonderful. 52:51 >> Wonderful. >> And this is this is the catalyst. 52:53 >> And this is this is the catalyst. 52:53 >> And this is this is the catalyst. >> Yeah. 52:54 >> Yeah. 52:54 >> Yeah. >> This is the awakening. 52:56 >> This is the awakening. 52:56 >> This is the awakening. It's you fulfilling 52:59 It's you fulfilling 52:59 It's you fulfilling the things that you've always wanted to 53:00 the things that you've always wanted to 53:00 the things that you've always wanted to do. And the fact that both you and Riad 53:02 do. And the fact that both you and Riad 53:02 do. And the fact that both you and Riad put this together, 53:03 put this together, 53:04 put this together, >> that you've got a community online as 53:05 >> that you've got a community online as 53:05 >> that you've got a community online as well, that you both have charities. 53:07 well, that you both have charities. 53:08 well, that you both have charities. Yeah, 53:08 Yeah, 53:08 Yeah, >> that are supported. The fact you're 53:10 >> that are supported. The fact you're 53:10 >> that are supported. The fact you're getting sponsorship 53:12 getting sponsorship 53:12 getting sponsorship >> for all of those things just speaks 53:14 >> for all of those things just speaks 53:14 >> for all of those things just speaks reams about the good that you're doing. 53:18 reams about the good that you're doing. 53:18 reams about the good that you're doing. >> Keep it up. I love skint. 53:22 >> Keep it up. I love skint. 53:22 >> Keep it up. I love skint. No, this is another thing. Yeah, I have 53:24 No, this is another thing. Yeah, I have 53:24 No, this is another thing. Yeah, I have what I need. Whereas years ago, I would 53:26 what I need. Whereas years ago, I would 53:26 what I need. Whereas years ago, I would chase all of this. So, it is a real big 53:29 chase all of this. So, it is a real big 53:29 chase all of this. So, it is a real big thing here. I have community. Um, I live 53:33 thing here. I have community. Um, I live 53:33 thing here. I have community. Um, I live on my own, but I have a community of 53:34 on my own, but I have a community of 53:34 on my own, but I have a community of women around me. I um I've been I was at 53:38 women around me. I um I've been I was at 53:38 women around me. I um I've been I was at London the other week. I'm here today. 53:40 London the other week. I'm here today. 53:40 London the other week. I'm here today. I'm doing something else. 53:41 I'm doing something else. 53:41 I'm doing something else. >> I'm not I've got food in my belly. I've 53:44 >> I'm not I've got food in my belly. I've 53:44 >> I'm not I've got food in my belly. I've got I've got everything that I need 53:46 got I've got everything that I need 53:46 got I've got everything that I need >> and more. 53:47 >> and more. 53:47 >> and more. >> Yeah. 53:47 >> Yeah. 53:47 >> Yeah. >> Because I've doing what I'm passionate 53:49 >> Because I've doing what I'm passionate 53:49 >> Because I've doing what I'm passionate about and not chasing the next high, the 53:52 about and not chasing the next high, the 53:52 about and not chasing the next high, the next 53:53 next 53:53 next >> fix, the next in in whatever way that 53:56 >> fix, the next in in whatever way that 53:56 >> fix, the next in in whatever way that form that comes into. But I do have to 53:58 form that comes into. But I do have to 53:58 form that comes into. But I do have to on a daily basis remember that and 54:01 on a daily basis remember that and 54:01 on a daily basis remember that and ground myself and I have to work on 54:03 ground myself and I have to work on 54:03 ground myself and I have to work on myself with meditation and podcasts and 54:06 myself with meditation and podcasts and 54:06 myself with meditation and podcasts and and helping others and I I I do do that. 54:08 and helping others and I I I do do that. 54:08 and helping others and I I I do do that. So it's it's it's really put your soul 54:11 So it's it's it's really put your soul 54:11 So it's it's it's really put your soul in it as well. It's like be a role 54:13 in it as well. It's like be a role 54:13 in it as well. It's like be a role model, be an example. 54:15 model, be an example. 54:15 model, be an example. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think ultimately 54:19 >> Yeah. Yeah. I think ultimately 54:19 >> Yeah. Yeah. I think ultimately as humans 54:21 as humans 54:21 as humans we get most out of life when we are 54:24 we get most out of life when we are 54:24 we get most out of life when we are giving. Definitely. 54:27 giving. Definitely. 54:27 giving. Definitely. Definitely 54:28 Definitely 54:28 Definitely >> without expectation of anything in 54:30 >> without expectation of anything in 54:30 >> without expectation of anything in return. 54:30 return. 54:30 return. >> Yeah, without expectation is the is is 54:33 >> Yeah, without expectation is the is is 54:33 >> Yeah, without expectation is the is is key. 54:35 key. 54:35 key. >> Wonderful. 54:36 >> Wonderful. 54:36 >> Wonderful. >> Thank you so much. 54:37 >> Thank you so much. 54:37 >> Thank you so much. >> Well, hopefully I shall get to your 54:38 >> Well, hopefully I shall get to your 54:38 >> Well, hopefully I shall get to your event. I know I can't I can't come this 54:40 event. I know I can't I can't come this 54:40 event. I know I can't I can't come this year and I wish I could. Um but yeah, 54:42 year and I wish I could. Um but yeah, 54:42 year and I wish I could. Um but yeah, I'll be there next year. 54:43 I'll be there next year. 54:43 I'll be there next year. >> Just share the please try and come one 54:46 >> Just share the please try and come one 54:46 >> Just share the please try and come one year. 54:46 year. 54:46 year. >> Oh, I will. I'll be there. You ain't 54:48 >> Oh, I will. I'll be there. You ain't 54:48 >> Oh, I will. I'll be there. You ain't seen the last of me, darling. 54:51 seen the last of me, darling. 54:51 seen the last of me, darling. >> Brilliant.
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