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Origins Of Health is an Osteopathic medical center that specializes in Osteopathic Manipulation, including Cranial Osteopathy, Integrative Medicine and holistic wellness. They integrate their personal passion and extensive medical training while working with you to develop a personalized approach to health that stimulates the self-healing forces within. Their goal is to assist you in realizing optimum health while being free to enjoy life and all it has to offer.

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Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Hey, welcome back everybody. I’m really pleased that you’re back. Pleased that we’re going to have a really super guest coming up right now. Dr. Thomas Moorcroft, DO Moorcroft is another good friend of ours. He’s got a great certification course. Dr. Thomas Moorcroft, DO treats some of the sickest, most sensitive patients suffering from chronic Lyme disease, tick-borne co-infections, mold illness. He’s a specialist in children with infection-induced autoimmune encephalitis. I’m sure you’ve heard of PANS/PANDAS and these kinds of things. Thomas Moorcroft, DO’s an osteopath, he’s a really good doctor. I’ve actually seen him personally, so I highly recommend him and his program. He focuses on optimizing the body’s self healing systems in order to achieve optimal health with simple natural interventions, utilizing more conventional approaches when needed. Now, it’s really good to have that in your back pocket. 

I’m sure he’s going to tell us all about it. Each individual is a unique unity of body, mind, and spirit, of course, and successful treatment strategies are patient centered and address all three levels. The true source of radiant health is within each of us. Now this is music to the ears of a health coach, Dr. Thomas Moorcroft, DO, ’cause people are having trouble with some of their—having to see so many different people. Through nearly two decades of medical practice, Dr. Thomas Moorcroft, DO has seen the importance of one’s mindset, the habitual patterns that create your results. His mission is to share proven strategies for aligning your conscious and subconscious mind so you can design your health, business, and personal roles and achieve them with amazing speed. Now you can immediately apply these principles to your life and improve your client’s results. Dr. Thomas Moorcroft, DO’s goal is to empower everyone he meets to reach their highest potential and get in touch with their inner source of health so they can experience optimal quality. Dr. Thomas Moorcroft, DO, that almost sounds like good health coaching to me, but we’re gonna let you explain it. If you wouldn’t mind before I start some questions and I’ve got some good ones— 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Yeah, yeah

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

I’ve got something to ask everybody, but I want you to tell us a little bit about your background, ’cause you’ve been a doctor for over 20 years, right? 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Yeah. Well, it’s interesting. I got hurt in college when—I would always love to play outside and I was on a hiking trip where all these people told me that they were the good leaders. Right? So I was just like—I couldn’t wait to go on this really cool trip in the white mountains, you’re gone four days of hiking. It was with all my good friends and the people leading the trip. But it turns out on the last day, they’re like, “Oh, we’re going to go on this quarter mile hike to this overlook”. So I was just like, “All right, no problem. Is it any longer than that? ‘Cause if it is, I gotta bring water and food.” ‘Cause that’s who I am. I get a little hypoglycemic typeof thing back in the day. And they’re like, “No, we’re fine.” It’s like four miles later, and I’m dehydrated, crawling on the side of the stream. They’re all playing jokes on me putting rocks in my backpack for when we had the hike down. I got my knees injured and I almost got Giardia. I’m like, “This is crazy”. 

So I started doing wilderness medicine because they had two main things. One was they wanted to prevent illness through good leadership and practices. And the other one was if the crap hit the fan, I was gonna be ready. The long and the short of it was you can’t practice that a lot. So then I did the ambulance and I did the ER and then I was like, “Wow, this is amazing. I love how the human body works.” When I went into medical school, I didn’t know anything about functional medicine. I don’t even know—health coach, any of this stuff. I knew the chiropractor cracked your neck and that was it. So I figured I had to recreate this whole field myself and I got into school and I went, I was like, “Aw man, there’s all these people doing this. So let’s focus in medical school to find out how we’re good in acute emergencies and how we’re destroying the body otherwise. So that when I get out, I can learn from all these other people and figure out how to keep people healthy.” That’s pretty much what I did. [Laughing]. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah, you did. When you say, when the crap hits the fan, are you talking about global pandemics? Or are we talking about more on a personal level? 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Well, I mean, I think modern medicine is really good for things like acute traumas and motor vehicle accidents, things like that. In the first 48 hours, but it’s interesting you bring up the pandemic because that’s one of the things where—I work a lot, as you know, in chronic Lyme disease and PANS/PANDAS and people get into these habitual thought patterns of like, “I’m not going to be able to get better”, and all these things are holding them back. As a practitioner it gets a little frustrating because everybody’s questioning you, even though you’re one of the world’s foremost experts and they still know better from their Facebook group or Google. It gets a little frustrating, but in COVID we’ve seen a lot of the same thing. There’s so much information, but we don’t know exactly what to do, that everybody freaks out. 

We have to find the latest and greatest supplement or the latest and greatest vaccine or whatever, or go take some chloroquine or whatever they’re doing, but really what it boiled down to was, what I’m telling everybody is that actually, COVID, it’s not the shit hitting the fan. It’s really like, “Okay, this is a great time to step back and look at the things that we can do on a day to day basis taking control of our own health”. That’s really like where I think it’s interesting, you say a lot of what I’m talking about is health coaching. It really is. It’s about not only holding people accountable to optimizing their own health and following through, but really giving them the tools to be able to do the things where they can—’cause everybody kind of has this habitual sticking point. If I can find the key to unlocking sort of the wall, the barrier you keep hitting into, I can help you get over that. Then we can unleash your personal passion and your health, rather than just having to be stuck on social media all day, freaking out like the sky is falling. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. I know you’ve been doing this a long, long time, ’cause we met just a couple years ago. We’ve talked a lot and you’ve made some massive shifts in your business. You’re getting better client results, patient results, things like that in your revenues and stuff. I mean, you’ve really picked it up quite a bit. And not to mention, I’m sure your personal satisfaction level is way up Thomas Moorcroft, DO. Now you’re inviting others—Yeah. Yeah. Right on—You can’t be happy if you’re not healthy. That includes a good, healthy, robust business and income. I think that goes a long way. At least I know health coaches are looking for that. So, what stimulated some of those changes, do you think? Now that you’re inviting other entrepreneurs to join you. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Well, yeah. It’s really interesting to me, ’cause as I look at it the thing that I always wanted was to help people get better and have a great life, enjoy my life, share my passion and make some money so that I could do some more life enjoying. Really it was—I wanted to work with people who really wanted to get better and I loved working with them because when I had those people in my life, they were getting the best results. So it’s like, this is where I’m doing my best work. This is where they’re getting the best result. Then they would refer their friends who are awesome clients. It’s just like—and so for me, I was like, how can I—because I’ve worked through this in my own practice and I figured out the ways to get people in—how do I get more of the people I love working with?

Which means they get better results. They give me referrals. I don’t have to go looking for people. Then I also am starting to attract less and less of the people that are harder to work with. Then when I do, I can do a quicker breakthrough. I wanted to share that with other people so that they don’t have to spend—’cause it took me 10 to 12 years to really sort this out. You just sit there and you’re at the end of the night, you’re feeling so drained. You’re like, “I gave everything and I still have these people driving me nuts.” And it’s like, I really want to—now that I’m working with people I love, I feel like there’s this weight off my neck and my heart’s wide open. Every day I pop out of bed and go, “This is what I’m here to do.” And every day gets better and better. That’s what I want to share with people, the tricks that I’ve learned on how to do that. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

So, when you’re working with those hilltop entrepreneurs, what do you think are the biggest stumbling blocks? That they’re not getting now. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Yeah. It’s interesting. For me, I spent a lot of years going, Reed, and doing a bunch of courses and I would learn— and I’m so damn smart. It’s ridiculous. Right? I go to a conference and all these doctors are like, “Oh my God, I don’t know how you put this shit in your head. How do you know all this?” I’m like, “I don’t know that much”. And I’m like, “Well, actually, I do know that.” But the thing was, even though—the more and more and more I learned, I was still getting the same patients. And then I started to doubt myself, and I know other doctors and health coaches and nurses that I’ve worked with, we all have this level of self doubt when the patient starts to question. And you start to—the patient, your client is complaining about it costs too much. “Do you really want me to get up and have a morning ritual? Do I really need to do that before bed? Do I really need to give up this crappy food that I’ve been eating?” 

You get these people who you open your practice, you open your business and you’re taking people ’cause you want to help them and you also want to pay your bills. But what I did not do in the beginning was make a very crystal clear goal of what my ideal client looked like. So I was serving everybody and I was really good at it, but I was starting to get pulled in different directions. And a lot of the people I work with feel the same way. You’re deflated and drained at the end of the day. You’re like, “Am I really an imposter? Heck, should I be the doctor?” But wait a second, the doctors are having the same problem. How do I get through to people and get out of this trading time for money? I mean, so many of us are just doing—the harder we work, we make 5 or 10% more money, and we’re getting more and more tired. 

I want people to get more satisfaction out of work by bringing in the people that they really want to work with. Because as you bring in your ideal client who loves what you’re selling, loves that transformation you’re giving them, now you can charge what you’re worth for your money. You can start offering bigger programs where you’re able to sort of auThomas Moorcroft, DOate yourself and bring more people together in your groups. That way we get you in front of the right clients. What I found out through all my work is that like, in my brain, because I wasn’t clear on who I wanted, I just wanted to help people who were suffering. Boy, I got a lot of suffering people, and I brought a lot of suffering into my life. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah.

 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

It was just ’cause I had the big heart to help. We can change that so that we’re bringing into our practice, the people that are gonna get the best results in our—because we’re clearly focused on what we’re doing and what we want. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. Oh, that’s so good. ‘Cause we spent a lot of time training on only accepting clients who are gonna be committed and that you actually think you can help and these kinds of things. So I think that’s wonderful. Yeah. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

The one thing I was thinking, Reed, as you said—the thing for me was like, I thought I was doing that. Right? If we can dive deeper for a second, I thought—I was like, “I have a good screening process. I’ve got the application.” I’m like, “Well this person I’m going to refer to somebody else.” Through another organization so they don’t know they came through me. It was like, you’re a decent fit, but a lot of people are answering the right questions, but what I wasn’t—so I had that system but I still didn’t have the personal dream of what I wanted it to look like. It was just like, I want to help. I want to make some money. But I mean like, what I got clear with was what I wanted my day to look like and what that person makes me feel like and what that goal is for that person. What the ultimate goal, almost like we talk about big, hairy, audacious goals. It’s not like I can go step one, step two, step three and come up with the answer, but really to go and say, “What would I love to be doing today?” Not just, “Are they a good client?” ‘Cause there’s a lot of good clients out there, but who are the people where they’re going to help me reach my dream while I help them reach their dream. So it’s kind of that win, win, win. I just felt when I got crystal clear on what I wanted, it just all came so quickly. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. It can come that way when you get clear, I get that. But how do you go from being the world’s leading expert in infectious diseases to become an expert manifesting? ‘Cause they’re two–one thing is not exactly the other, for sure. So, how did that transition happen? 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Yeah. Well, you know what happened was, I saw these people who were sick and I heard them over and over telling me how sick they were and how hard it was to get better. And then I said, “Wait a second. I know what’s in your way. It’s your paradigm—you’re continually—your speech is like, I’m sick. I can’t get better.” They’re on this situation of like, “Oh, in the Facebook groups, everybody says it’s so hard and complicated.” And in my mind, I kept hearing them repeat the same things and it was not the goal they want. They told me on paper and out of their mouth, they wanted health goal A, like excellent, optimal health, but all their words and their actions look like they were pretty sure they weren’t gonna get there. Then I started examining in my head and I was like, “Well, my goals are—wow”. What I focused on most was the complexities in my business every day. So I had the goal written down and I even talked about it once in a while, but I would get lost and keep going back to the everyday stuff. So I dove into—I’ve been studying like law of attraction stuff and manifestation for a long time.

I did some work with Bob Proctor and it just immediately shifted my mindset. It clicked. 20 years of searching. It was just the tool. What really came up was it’s habitual thought patterns or our paradigms are the things that are getting us locked and they have almost exclusive control over—if you think about a paradigm, it’s this program that has almost exclusive control over our habitual pattern, or habitual behavior. The thing about our behavior is it’s almost all habitual, right? What we do on a daily basis is pretty much a routine. If you dive into that routine in your mind, that controls our perception and our actions and all our behaviors. So what I found was, I was saying one thing, but inside my subconscious was saying, “Well, Thomas Moorcroft, DO, this is going to be hard. You’ve worked for 10 years with these people. You’re really good at it, but it’s so hard to get those good results. These patients are tough to work with.” When I started working, what I learned was, that if my conscious mind is coming up with all these amazing ideas. Like, you know, you hang out with me. It’s like ideas left and right. I can’t shut up. I’m so inspired. But then when I sit down and make it a reality, the problem was my conscious mind and my dreams were not in alignment in resonance or vibration with my subconscious and the emotions that I had been programmed with as I grew up and through medical school, no one taught me this. 

So then I learned, you have to work hard and 5% improvement in your business in one year is really good. And oh, you’re gonna struggle with these chronically ill patients and you’re gonna keep them just okay. You’ll have a breakthrough once in a while, rather than a lot. The problem is if your vibration of your conscious and your subconscious mind are not in harmony, you create internal chaos. Then you kind of hit fear and self doubt and sabotage and you hit the wall and then you just bounce right back in the bondage and you do the same thing over. So you have a big idea. You’re about to break through. You’re about to—and then the fear sets in and then you go back. A lot of us will make 5, 10% improvements year after year. But what I wanted personally was a quantum leap. I’m not going to wait for 20 years to get there. I want to make a massive shift now. So through my work with teachers, like Bob Proctor, I learned to be able to shift this quickly and then started working with a program where we’re able to do this over the period of three to six months. 

You really fine tune it so that it becomes—you’re aware of your conscious and your subconscious. You know how to program them, and then you just go right past that fear because you’ve got the system that’s in alignment with universal laws that allows that to happen. The cool part is when your conscious mind and your subconscious mind are in harmony, then your subconscious programs your body to start taking action and your behavior, your belief systems start to get reflected externally in your behaviors. Then the universe is like, “Shit. Thomas Moorcroft, DO’s actually doing it for a change.” Or, you know, “Reed is out there doing what he’s been talking about for a while in everyday action as if it already happened.” And then you pull that to you and it happens much more quickly. So it was mostly out of desperation to be totally honest with you. I was sick and tired of doing the same old crap and being mediocre. Even though, I mean, I was high end mediocre don’t get me wrong, but I was being mediocre. I wasn’t playing to my full potential. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

You were one of the best mediocre people I know.

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

This is really cool to me. Thank you. But think about it, like inside of me my whole life, I said, “People are not—” I could never understand why people were settling. Everybody told me, “Oh, you gotta settle for your spouse.” I’m like, “Bullshit! I’ve got the best wife for me ever. And we’re in love.” And we get more in love every day because I refuse to settle. But outside of that, I could never understand why people would settle for not doing what their passion really is. Then I looked at it and I said, “Wait, I’m not doing that either. I’m playing smaller than I want to”. So yeah, I strove further and I was the first person to graduate college in my family. So then I went on to medical school. So obviously no one had done that, but it was like, they all just expected me to go. Okay, now you’re a doctor. And that’s not what I’m here for. I’m here to inspire people to be themselves and do the best they can. I feel like all the health coaches that I’ve met have all these tools and they all want to help their clients get more and they want to reach more and more people, but they want to do it the most efficient way possible. This isn’t like dicking around for 10 years and figuring it out like I did. It’s really like—we’re all making an impact, but I want people to go make huge impact for your clients. I want your clients to be bringing people to you so that you don’t have to keep struggling for more clients. 

I want you to be able to use the things you need that are already in your toolbox. I mean, how many conferences have you gone to? I look around my office, I’ve got all these things that I brought into the mix. I have this big toolbox, half the programs I ordered, I never even finished because I got stuck. So I was like, “I’m just cutting to the chase.” I’m like, “Okay, this is a great program for me. Why am I not finishing it? I want to find out why I’m not finishing it so I can actually finish it and implement it.” So that’s where the mindset piece goes and says, “Boom, let’s get you unlocked so that you know how to apply all the things that you already know”. I mean, there’s so many smart people out there, but how many super smart people do you know are like super rich and making and changing the world. It’s not that many. They’re kind of playing small. So my goal is to just have people not have to go through—to just really up their game. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

That’s fantastic, Thomas Moorcroft, DO. I know that you’re doing it. And maybe—do you feel like sharing with the audience any of the steps they might have to take to change their habitual thought patterns? ‘Cause that seems to be a real block for some people. Like you just can’t get out of certain habits. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Right. Well, I think one of the things you should do is really to write down clearly what you want and dream really big. ‘Cause it’s like when I was a kid, I would always fantasize about everything and dream and everybody’s like, “Oh Thomas Moorcroft, DO, stop daydreaming and pay attention. That’s not for us.” I mean, just start going over—like write down, literally, if you look at something and you say—an exercise I give people a lot is think about your life in 12 months from now. Really, I want people listening to write a new self image script for themselves. What do you really want your life to look like? See yourself fulfilling the wildest dreams you have. You took this huge quantum leap like you heard about on the secret and all this other stuff. What does your life really look like? Because you’ve already achieved those goals and really just get super clear. Then when somebody is like, “Oh, I can’t get clear on that.” That’s okay. Just write down whatever comes. You write it in the present tense with positive language and you say, “I’m still happy and grateful now that…” and you just write it out. 

You come up with a couple paragraphs, maybe five pages, whatever you need, but then you go back to it every day and you look at it and you read it. I’m like, “Is that really me?” ‘Cause with me, when I did it, it changed. I got more and more and more precise. The more and more precise I got by just rereading it and editing a few lines. It’s like your copy, right? You have the best sales copy, but you change two words and it converts a hundred percent better just by moving them. And same idea, put all the effort into your mindset and then you’ll start to see it changing. And I mean, I did—another one you can do too, I played around with this, is I’ve heard Bob Proctor talk about. “I’m so happy and grateful now that my income increases through multiple streams on a continuous basis.” So I said this, and like the next day a check showed up, and it was just a small commission check, right? 

For something I did a year ago. But this time, instead of going, “Ah just a small commission check”, I go, “Oh, Oh my God, this is working. I want the money.” Then I got a really small one, like eight bucks. And I’m like, “That’s the best.” And then I saw another one for 25. I’m like, “Oh, this stuff works.” And then the fourth day of me repeating this, somebody called me up and asked me to do a private mentorship that’s gonna be five figures a year for the next three years. And I was like, “Woah, this stuff really—”I mean—and so part of it is you have to start noticing the grace that comes into your life. So that’s really helpful. I think that we have to do it repeatedly because otherwise it doesn’t get deep down. Also, like I said, I do a six months training that really dials all that in— 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Okay. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Because I want people to feel that. Then as a practitioner, I think it’s also important because this—I kind of talked about what do you want in your life? I recommend people do it for your personal side, as well as your business. Which includes being clear on who you want to work with. But then when you’re working with clients, feel free to give them this because so many people they’re hitting a boundary. They’re like, “Oh, well I always get stuck here.” Or “I can’t—the food sensitivities are holding me back.” Okay. Well, what about, what’s your life going to look like when you get past these food sensitivities? Or whatever is holding you back, your dysbiosis, what is life going to look like? They’re going to be, “Well, I have to fix it first.” Okay. Well, we know that, but if you create this dream and you help coach them to say, “This is the expectation. You’re going to get beyond it. 

What does your life look like when you’re already better?” Because when they keep resonating out there, then they can actually take more clear action today. They’re going to be—because to me getting rid of dysbiosis is boring, right? I mean, I’m like, “Woo.” What I want is what getting rid of dysbiosis, that transformation, what the hell am I going to do? Because when I had Lyme disease, I didn’t even know what it was. I just knew I was sick. And they’re like, “You have fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue.” All I knew is I had things I was doing and I wanted to do so then I was always motivated. But you see the people who are like, they’re motivated to fix their problem, I want them to be motivated to achieve their dream. Then they’ll be able to have the energy and the mental focus to actually focus on the health stuff that will allow them to get their dream. But if they don’t have that passion and a place to go, where’s the end? If you don’t have that end point, you’re like, “Oh yeah, dysbiosis, that’s fun. Food sensitivities, shit. I can’t eat that food.” You know? 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

So we give them that goal, that end point. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Right. That’s beautiful. It sounds like you really get the steps dialled in there. I have a few more questions for you, Thomas Moorcroft, DO, so you’re not done yet. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Ah, it’s all good, man. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Fantastic. So look, Thomas Moorcroft, DO, people—here I have 30 different health coach certifications in this particular event. And I think that all are great. Some are absolutely amazing. Some go perfectly well mixed in with the others, but here we are, we’re doing all these programs, learning more skills, certifications, some of it’s based on the technology, how you actually fix things, some of it’s on the sales and marketing, some of it’s mindset, this is kind of a blend, but people still seem to hit the wall. They struggle a bit. How do you avoid that? How do you avoid hitting the wall and making some serious lasting changes? ‘Cause if I could do that with this summit, get people on the right track, give them the right mentality, then I will have had success with this event. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Yeah, absolutely. I really think it boils down to knowing where you are right now and where you want to go. Right? So it’s like you have that crystal clear goal and understanding where you’re at. You put that together with the paradigms and learning proven technology for changing those habitual thought patterns so that you don’t— because like, what I want to see is—what’s really cool, if you go back, many people have seen the secret, right? Where they talk about the law of attraction and they talk about the three steps, ask, believe, receive. What they say is you’ve got to ask. So be crystal clear on your goal. But the belief part, isn’t just like sit at home and believe it’s gonna happen. It’s really taking action once you know what’s going on. So immediately after you are clear on your goal, then you go, “Oh, I need this marketing strategy. I need this step…” But you’re going to follow through now because they’re attached to your passion project, to your mission in life. And that’s really—so a lot of times we’re figuring out the how, and then we’re going to figure out the what. Or the what is like nebulous.

For me, I’m like, I want to open a medical practice and help people suffering from stuff. I don’t want to do it like other people, I want to do functional style. So that’s a—that’s not really a what that’s kind of just like a nebulous cloud. So what I’m recommending is that people get crystal clear on the what is driving them, what they want to achieve, and then they’ll know which how to use and they’ll be motivated to go through it. Just like our patients. It’s interesting. I have this quote up over here ’cause I like it so much. But Andrew Carnegie said “Any idea that’s held in the mind, that’s either feared or revered will begin at once to clothe itself in the most convenient and appropriate physical forms available.” Meaning if I focus on what I really want and or what I don’t want, I’m gonna make that. So to me, it’s learning how to put the what with the how. So many groups are like, get clear on your what, and then the how happens. 

But the problem is many of us who are like health coaches and doctors, we love learning to do things and love certifications. We need all of those in my opinion. I have many myself and I still take other courses, but what really changed my results with my patients and my finances and my life was getting clear on the mindset piece. And I talk about it in medical terms, right? Placebo is responsible for about one third of all medical outcomes, including surgical. So I’m not saying you don’t need the other, I’m saying yes and… Yes, I need the medical. Yes, I need the how to course but I want to harness the power of my mind so that I’m the complete package. Then one of my—the people in one of my support groups the other days, I asked them a question about where their mindset was and she’s like—and we’re talking, she has chronic Epstein-Barr Lyme, and obviously all the other things, the chronic fatigue and the brain fog that go along with that. But she’s having a hard time doing much of anything. 

She said it’s like her diagnosis preoccupies her thoughts and it’s hard to find any kind of balance. Some of the entrepreneurs I work with have a similar sentiment. “I’m so busy in my practice and trying to figure out how to make it all work and trying to take care of patients and trying to do this, that what we want to do is find a balance point.” And so earlier when you asked, what are one of the things I can do? One of the things you can also do to immediately change this is look at the words that come out of your mouth. So when I made my big shift—I joke I’m from New Jersey, so I use the F bomb a lot. If you hang out with me socially, I do. But it was like immediately after that clicked for me, I almost don’t swear at all. It’s very specific. And I don’t really use the word “hard”, or “I’m going to try this”. It’s like when we do—when this is accomplished. Because whatever words you’re putting out, when you focus on them repeatedly. 

So just listen. Even if you record yourself over the course of a day in the office. I would even do—turn on Otter and just record yourself for like an hour or a couple of patients, and then transcribe it and pull out the words that come up the most often. Then look at it and say, “Oh, am I setting my client up for success? Or am I setting them up for struggle? Am I setting myself up for money coming in or money going out?” The example we talked about earlier, where I got an $8 and a $25 check. So most—what I did the first time I got a few small checks was, “Oh yeah, that was kind of a waste.” I’m like, “What? That’s a waste? I just told money I don’t want it in my life.” 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

I’m thankful. It’s like everything that comes into my life, I’m thankful for. And the other day, it’s like, it’s so hot here. But the air—and I’m working at home with all the virtual—so our air conditioning broke. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Oh no. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

And I get done the day of super sweaty in my home office. So I call the guy, he comes out the next morning and he goes like—whatever the blower was, it’s supposed to spin, and it had ballooned out—and he’s like, “I’ve never seen this ever.” I was like, “Well, that’s great. Of course it would happen to me.” So there you go. Of course stuff— the one off happens to me. I caught that one and changed that. But then he said, “Let me go check. I’ll go back.” He goes to the shop and they go, “It will be at least a week before I can get you a part.” So then he calls me back 20 minutes later and he goes, “Well with COVID, it’s probably gonna be more like a month.” I’m like, “It’s July in Connecticut. I’m not doing this.” So I was talking to my wife and I said, “You know what? I’m pretty sure our air conditioning is gonna be fixed by Thomas Moorcroft, DOorrow.” And it felt so good to just not believe what he had told me.

I was like, “You know what? And maybe it’ll even happen tonight.” So within an hour, the guy shows up at the front door with a new blower. He goes downstairs. And I was like, “Yes, it works!” It didn’t fit. So he got done and I was talking to Jill again. And I said, “You know what? It is definitely happening. I feel so good about this because the guy told me a week, then he told me a month, then he found one.” He goes, “We got no more. That was your only chance.” I was like, “I’ve got the best chance in the world. It’s happening tonight.” And like an hour and a half later, he shows up with a blower that fits and I had air conditioning. And I was like, “So what did I have to lose?” He already told me it’s gonna be a month if he has to order it. 

So what do I have to lose to believe that it might happen today or Thomas Moorcroft, DOorrow? Nothing. And it happened. So then I’m like, “Damn this stuff happens all the time.” And then I got a $25,000 a year gig, and then I get this now. So to me, it’s like, there’s no loss if you believe in your goals. You have at least a half a chance of getting them. But if your patients or yourself believe that they’re not going to get better, that’s a self fulfilling prophecy. So I’m just like, if not getting better is a self fulfilling prophecy, hey, maybe getting better or manifesting an air conditioner blower in the middle of July in COVID, maybe that’s possible. The more I do it, the more it happens. I’m just like a scientist, right? The null hypothesis is it doesn’t work. So I just will—but at the end of the day, it keeps working, so I believe it. So I would recommend everybody start to try it and try it out for yourself. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. Yeah I totally get it. You definitely have to watch what you say. I notice it a lot when I’m editing our blogs and things like that. Sometimes I have other people that co-write and things. The first thing I do is take out all the passive voice, anything that sounds like it’s being expressed in a negative way so that it just becomes more positive. You get up in the morning every day and you have to see that the cup is half full. It just sounds a lot better than it’s half empty. That stuff absolutely works, guaranteed. So, I’ve been noticing— 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

The point that’s really interesting too, to me, is positive thinking is not about blowing off the other stuff that’s going on in our life. It’s about having our focus on the goal. When something is “negative” or less than optimal comes into our life, now that we’re in a vibration with what we want, we can make the best decision of how to deal with it. So it’s not just positive affirmation makes everything—the world go right. I’m saying it allows you to take the necessary action in order to move forward with it. When people work with me, the thing they see, whether it’s in business or health and in mindset, the structure that we create in the learning and the structure they create in their life leads to that freedom and to them achieving their goals. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah, man. We’ll talk a little bit more about what’s at stake. ‘Cause you’re either gonna keep sort of going the way you’re going or you’re going to take some action and your life’s gonna come out differently. Talk about that. What’s at stake? 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Yeah, I mean, from a personal place, I love helping all the people I was helping before in the way I was helping them. But if I didn’t change my mindset and then improve the results, they were going to struggle more. I was going to be drained at the end of the day, I was going to continue to do, hey, 5 or 10% improvement year after year, maybe even have a year of 20% improvement. But now it’s like—I can quadruple my income in four months, which when I grew up, that wasn’t possible. So for me, I really want to make sure that I know the possibilities, ’cause I don’t want to get stuck in demanding patients, working hard to get them in, going to more and more conferences, and then not using them. 

I’m all for conferences. I love them, but I want to be able to use that information. I want to be able to empower my patients. And I also—I mean, I tell—it was funny for years and years and years, I said, “I haven’t gone on vacation in nine years.” I became an expert by bringing my family to cool places, letting them go to the pool, while I was inside of a dark room with freezing cold air conditioning. The more I said it, the more it kept happening. I just didn’t want that anymore. I wanted more family time. For me, I want to help more people. So if I’m helping 40 people a week and stressing myself out, that’s one thing, and I’m doing right action. But for me, I really wanted to help hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands of people a day. Right? So for me, that really got me going. 

For anybody who wants to get past that frustration of getting a bunch of things, starting, stopping, starting, stopping, or knowing that you’re on the planet to do more than you’re doing today. I mean, that’s the stuff that stake shit. I mean, I don’t know what happens before or after this life. We can all have that conversation, but I know that the life that I currently have is precious and I want to make the most of it and I want to give to the planet. That’s what calls me. I just want—and that’s been my mission my whole life. I just never uncorked it until the last year or so. Get out there and do what you really want to do because we never know when our last breath is. One of my teachers says, “Just by breathing, we’re creating results.” Do you want to create your future by default? Or do you want to create your future by design? And I choose to do it by design. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Amen brother. If you don’t decide someone else will decide for you what your life’s gonna be like, and that’s a horrible thing. You start to get unhappy and you know it, and usually you know why, and to break free from that is emancipating. It’s remarkable. I’ll just throw this in there that, I’ve been working for a long time, really hard in this business and accomplished some pretty cool things. But I just wonder if I could have made it—done it a lot faster with an even more controlled sort of mindset and methodology for manifesting. And I know it’s true. I’m an okay manifester, I guess. [Laughing] I guess, like you said, mediocre manifestors are still—[Laughing]—we’re still manifesting! 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

We’re all doing it! Well, it’s interesting— 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Go ahead Thomas Moorcroft, DO. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

I was gonna say that Bob Proctor—Yeah, Bob, one of my main teachers, talks about it and he’s like, “We’re limited by only two things, weakness of attention and poverty of imagination.” And the thing is, what do we—just take note. What are you focused on most during your day? Since I made this big shift, I have a dream home. I know exactly where it is. I know exactly what it looks like. It even has its own music video. So my family and I, three, four times a day, we play the music video and we dance together and we picture ourselves being there. There’s a workout room in that house. When I work out in my current basement where my little workout area is, I envision being there. I envision what my medical practice is going to look like there because that’s how I want to do it.

I envision being on stages, talking to these people and I’m getting—like I have all these business opportunities to help more people. This isn’t just like creating the dream home and the money. ‘Cause that stuff I think is really cool. But as you know, I’m so driven to help people. When I decided to stop playing small and I started to imagine what could be done, I connected with a friend of mine who’s connected and we have the ability—now we’re working on projects to help veterans in a way that no one’s ever done before. To me, I’m like that—my hair stands up every time I even say it out loud or think about it. I’m saying it out loud all the time, because it is a done deal. It has already happened. We just now have to do the stuff to make it manifest on the physical plane. But it starts up here and it’s like, see all the great things you want to have happening to you. Teach your patients the same thing, your clients. I’m so into saying patients, but our clients—’cause they were at my upbringing. 

But your clients, get them to see what their health really looks like so their life takes off. I’ll tell you, with my patients, I’ve seen—some people, their biggest health problem is money. Well, good. Teach them how to make money. If their biggest health problem is they don’t follow through. Good. What do they want to follow through for? What does it look like? Maybe it’s their relationship. Maybe it’s their kids. Whatever stimulates them, get them to really see what a great life looks like when they’re loving everything they do. Then let their imagination go wild. Tell them to be a kid writing a Christmas list. It’s one of the best things to do. Pretend you’re a kid, you believe, and it’s like, “Boom, Santa Claus. This is what I want my life to look like.” Write that shit down, because what happens on Christmas Reed? When you’re a little kid, almost no matter what, you write down. Number one, number two, number three on your list. Which one do you get? Which one do you bug your parents about? 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah, number one. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

That one. And you just go, “I want this, I want this, I want this. I want this.” And guess what? You get it. That’s what you need to do with the universe and teach your patients to do that. They’ll get better results and they’ll be like, “Oh my God, my health coach, my doctor…” They inspired me like nobody else. I have doctors who see me as patients. I teach them this. They go, “I’ve been to 10 doctors, 5 psychiatrists, 3 health coaches. This is the first time in my life I’ve been heard.” I’m like, “You’re 56 years old and this is the first time you were ever heard by another healthcare practitioner and you’re a healthcare practitioner?” They’re like, “Teach me to do what you did so I can do this for my patients and to my hubby.” And it really—it’s that powerful. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Well, I know you’ve got a lot of secrets for us, but I want to, Thomas Moorcroft, DO, say I completely support you and everything you’re doing. It’s kind of how I think—like I was gonna add to my last comment that I’ve been manifesting a long time. I already live in my dream home. I live in paradise and it’s—I just every day try to be thankful. I try to expand on it ’cause you can’t just go into defense. If all you’re trying to do is keep what you have, I know that’s not good either, ’cause now you start focusing on just not losing instead of winning more and these kind of things. What do you—I want you to talk a little bit before we run out of time, Thomas Moorcroft, DO, about your program. We’re gonna put all the information about getting in touch with you into the show notes and things like that. But what—tell us about your program. How long it takes, who’s it for? 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Yeah. Thanks. I love the comment about be thankful, because that’s the thing. If we want something, we don’t have it. If we’re not thankful for it, then it’s not meaningful to us. And I’m very grateful and thankful to you Reed and the whole team for allowing me to share about this. Yeah. The program, it’s really for people who want to take that next step and apply everything that they’ve already known and blow the barriers off of all their dreams, of their preconceived notions of what they can achieve and go even higher. As you know, even some of the most successful people on the planet who have like five dream homes, they’re still getting coached. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

The program is six months. We run—it’s a combination—we use Bob Proctor’s framework because it’s been proven for decades and offered in over a hundred countries to get results with the average person quadrupling their income in the six months, which is not too shabby. And then I put on—so we do that whole structure where we have—it’s a group setting. We work together, we go through lessons, we have daily work, both audio, visual, and written stuff. Then we have the team stuff. We get together. We have guided trainings once a week. Then really the thing is to teach you not only how to pick what we’re working on right now, but to achieve that and then be able to make a shift in your awareness that you’re going to be able to continue to use into the future. That’s really a big piece. Then I add into it on top of all of the proven success of the training, very specific things that I’ve seen. 

How we can implement this to medical practice, health coaching practice. Because a lot of the thing that makes my line practice work so well is that coaching piece that we’re giving them. So we really bring a lot of that knowledge in. And we take the mindset piece and the proven technologies of universal law, Proctor’s background, my background, and a lot of my other teachers. Then we give you that part. Then on top of it is really specific. We can dive into how to implement this and teach it to our clientele. I have stuff in my practice, I’m always creating more resources and everybody in the group has free access to all those it’s really, this is a pay it forward model. We all work together to help the next person improve their health, improve their business. I think there’s so much abundance in the universe that all of us can succeed. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Well, I know you’re providing some amazing leadership out there too. It’s been my honor and pleasure to have you on Dr. Thomas Moorcroft, DO. What else can we do? Like if we were gonna brainstorm right now. What else can we do to provide leadership in this area? Because I think everyone would agree standard medicine does a great job. I’ve always told people, if you have a bone sticking out of the arm, bleeding, you don’t call your nutritionist, or health coach. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Right. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

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Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Well, I think that, especially in COVID times, the leadership that I would love everybody to see in the healthcare field let’s say, there’s been so much divisiveness because we don’t know the right answer. It’s the same with Lyme. We don’t know all the right answers, but we know the path. As someone who’s in health coaching, the things about sleep and nutrition and movement and deep breathing outside and getting in a parasympathetic state. These are all things that we can teach to people. I would suggest that we should, one, model this behavior. And in our marketing—if you think about so many people now are marketing and talking about what they don’t want or how they don’t like how the system is. They’re going to attract clients that are like that. So if you want the clients that are all about getting better and bringing abundance to their life and your life, then you want to be talking both when you’re at a restaurant, on the phone with your friends out there. 

Model the leadership that you want to see in the world. The other thing that we should really be doing—because the thing is, you’re going to make that, and you’re going to attract that to you. So whatever you’re putting out is coming back. It’s like a boomerang. The other thing is, I would highly recommend—and this is one of the laws that comes out of Think and Grow Rich with Napoleon Hill, and many, many thought leaders talk about leave others with the impression of increase. So in every interaction you have with any other human being, leave them with the impression that they benefited from talking with you. So that’s where we give them the best we’ve got in that scenario. I think that in these times in particular, I don’t want—I agree that—the thing is conventional medicine does some things wrong. I’ve been in it since 1995. I’m pretty clear on what it does well and what it doesn’t do well, but the same with functional and health coaching and nutrition, we’re all trying to help people get better in our own system. 

Maybe we want to bring that system along, but be in that place where we’re not putting the other people down, we’re not saying, “Yes, but my way is better.” Yes, and I would suggest maybe we look at this because that’ll help that system over there. It’s really that leadership giving them that impression of increase. I know I’ve said it a lot, but it’s so important. I mean, every great thought leader through history has argued with each other about the way to get things done with exception of one thing. And that one thing is the things that we think about are what we bring about. So whatever we’re focusing on is going to come back into our lives. If we can model that good behavior to others, and then also teach them that if they focus on what they really want it will come in by taking action in that direction, then I think we’re gonna make a big change. 

I guess the other part is I’m—just to share some enthusiasm about this, because sometimes I hear some adversarial stuff. I’ve already been asked to potentially work inside of some larger insurers to help their health coaches empower their patients in a way that’s not just the company’s botThomas Moorcroft, DO line. So for me, I’m like, “Oh, well, I’ve got this degree where I can kind of infiltrate”, if you will. So I believe that everybody listening today has their own unique skill that’s needed out in the world, and that you’re going to have unique opportunities come your way. When you live this way, you’re gonna know when that opportunity comes in your life to say yes, and I’m willing to help right now, because then you’re going to actually have a crazy opportunity that you never imagined come into your life. You’re going to be able to really help change the healthcare system more than you ever imagined, or I ever imagined. I just think that unlimited potential of us and leading as if that’s the way it is, it’s such a gift to humanity in a time where we’re in fear. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. You’re a great humanitarian and you’re on a warrant for track and just so proud to be working together with you. I know there’s big things—you put a few brains together and God knows what can happen. So it’s happening. I think there’s already kind of this huge collective consciousness that’s moving moving in the direction that it’s going. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

The other thing Reed, if I have a second is in COVID, everybody who’s listening to this has a unique opportunity. Humans are—we’re all under this huge magnifying glass. Everybody’s so raw about all these things. If you’re making that raw more raw and you’re pouring lemon juice on it, that’ll get you the quick sort of attention. Not that longterm thing. But one of the good things about this magnifying glass are people are realizing medicine doesn’t have everything and part of medicine that’s been missing—and you guys all put into it—is helping them understand and achieve personal responsibility in medicine. This is my biggest pet peeve in medicine is we take healing away from the person and away from their body. Our bodies are amazing self healing mechanisms. Our jobs are to help support that person in healing, whether it’s nutrition, mindset, everything. We lift them up so they can do the work on their own. You are in a perfect place right now to uplift your clients and motivate them to really go to a level they never knew possible. And instead of feeding into that fear, use that, what they’re afraid of, why are they afraid so much? They’re afraid because there’s something they may miss out on. Figure out what that is, tie their health to that, and you’ll have them take off and your business will take off with it. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. It’s amazing how that works. You’re just saying everything right, man. I mean, I should give you some hallelujahs and amens and right on, because that’s what we’re doing, bro. Yeah. Yeah, all right. Can I get an amen? Yeah. So listen, because I want to respect your time. You’ve probably got patients waiting or something like that. By the way, I’ve been one of Dr. Thomas Moorcroft, DO’s patients folks, and he’s an amazing guy. I flew from San Diego to Connecticut just to see this man and to experience his office. I was there for like four or five hours plus lunch. It was just such a remarkable, enriching and nurturing experience from the way you have your staff and just the whole place. It was cool. Plus you got neat sort of tricks.

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Thank you. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Cool stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So now, last question, Thomas Moorcroft, DO. How do we separate the professionals from everybody else? I want some of your best tips or even if it’s one tip. You’ve already given us so much and everything you just said in the last few moments has been about being a pro and taking it seriously and taking it to the next level and those kinds of things. But do you have something like the required traits of a professional health coach? 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

I do. I’ve talked to a lot of people who provide leadership training, including multiple people who I’ve done their programs. I hold them in the highest esteem. But with COVID as an example, because it’s so on everybody’s mind, they’re like, “Hey, we’re so good right now. We don’t need the—I’m so healthy. My mind is so clear. I don’t need the mask. I don’t need to do this or that.” And I said, “Well, that’s cool that you can do this.” And a friend of mine goes, “Well, I don’t drink.” I’m like, “Why don’t you drink?” And he goes, “Well, because if I drink when I’m out, that means I give people around me permission to drink. And what if someone around me, because of the influence we all have over each other, what if I give someone permission to drink, who is an alcoholic? And then I ruined that.” That’s kind of interesting. 

I didn’t think of it that way, but what about this? What about when you don’t follow the recommendations, because you’re such a leader, you don’t even need to follow any of the rules at all. By definition, as a leader, you have followers. I think the role of a leader is to model the good behavior of optimal wellness. But when there’s a situation where there’s a public health thing, I should model the behavior for my clients that they need to be doing not necessarily say, “Hey, look at me. I’m perfect”. Say, “Look, I was there” and really say, “Look, I’m going to help model the behavior along the way. So I can bring my followers along with me. I can bring them up.” Maybe today, or this week, this year is not the time for them, but that door is always going to be open if they’re an ideal client. So I really believe in leading by example and I hold myself to the highest standards. So I’m always honoring what I do and showing people, but I’m never dishonoring where they’re at. I’m saying, “Here’s the possibility. Now let’s go back and I’m going to not necessarily hold your hand, but I’m gonna model behaviors around you that are the one you need.” What I model in front of my daughter might be a little bit different than I model when we go out to dinner or someone else. 

But it’s really just paying attention to your words, paying attention to your actions, making them appropriate for the scenario, understanding that you have chosen to lead people in a place that is so sacred, and we should treat it like that. It’s like everyday to me—it’s almost like my mom going to church, or someone goes to the synagogue or going to their ashram, or whatever. There’s so much divinity in everybody, let’s just honor that and bring them forward. So as a leader, you have to know how to turn up the volume and turn the volume down and bring people along with you, not say, “Hey, I’m way up here. The climbing is is gonna be hard, but if you just keep…” You want to—to me, it’s like, I feel as a catalyst. 

Uplift people and be a catalyst where they need it, when they need it, be there to catch them, ask them to stretch when they need to. Be pliable and flexible, but don’t ask them to do shit you wouldn’t do yourself. And don’t get so high on your leadership that like, you’re so good. I find that I just want to make sure that we lead with our hearts, not with our ego or our brain. Right? So that’s really what we do when we get everything in alignment. The part I didn’t tell you guys, it’s like—the reason that our thoughts and our conscious are so powerful is they’re connected with the universe. Whether you call that God or Allah or life or whatever, the reason you’re having these thoughts is you’re connected with the universe. So what you’re trying to do is complete a circuit. Universe into your conscious, connected to your subconscious, down into your heart and your body, through your emotions, let that out and reconnect. And when you reconnect, it all comes into being one. It’s almost like that enso in Zen Buddhism. You get to the beginning, you get to the end of your journey only to arrive at the beginning for the first time. That’s how I feel leadership should be, we’re just flexible with people. The most important piece of being a leader is to lead yourself first and cut yourself a little bit of a break once in awhile. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Amen to that. As long as it isn’t all the time. Yeah. Thomas Moorcroft, DO, words of wisdom, for sure. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Oh, yeah. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Yeah. I know you’re gonna resonate. Go ahead and say one last thing, Thomas Moorcroft, DO. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

I just want to say how grateful I am for the opportunity. I’ve looked at the other people who are in the summit. It’s like, man, you guys know how to pull them together. So many of those folks are friends of mine. I know a lot of their programs. I’ve even taken some of them. And like I said, we’re all about becoming the whole package. And to me, there’s so many little pieces we all want to put together. Get clear on what you truly want, whether you do it with me or somebody else. But when you’re clear on what you want, you’re going to get it. You’re going to get it in your personal life, in your relationships, in your health. You’re going to get it in your business. And the beauty of a lot of working on this stuff is that all the things you learn about you and being able to utilize all the other cool courses that you’re learning here and that you participate in other places, when you work with me, the thing that you’re going to see is that you’re going to take all the stuff that you work on yourself with, and it’s directly applicable in your practice and with your clients. If you’re like, “Hey, I just want to learn how to use this on my clients.” That’s really great because what’s going to happen is you’re going to learn how to use it on your clients, and it’s going to work on you, too. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

It’s remarkable.

 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

It’s a win, win, win, man. We’re changing the world by just opening people’s hearts and letting them live their passion and putting goodness and success out in the world. This is a super abundant universe and we can all— we’re all part of it. So let’s all share it with each other. 

 

Reed Davis, HHP, FDN-P, CMTA, CNT

Amen. Thomas Moorcroft, DO again, looking forward to all of the cool stuff we’re going to be doing together and love you, man. So we’ll see you again. Thanks for being here. 

 

Thomas Moorcroft, DO 

Yeah. Thanks. Love you too.

 

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