Why Are So Many Kids Chronically Sick? A Holistic Pediatrician Explains

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Well, if you look at the data coming out of the CDC, we are told that one in six children has a neurodevelopmental disability. We are that 1 in 31 children have autism. One in nine children had ADHD. 1 In 20 under the age of 5 has seizures. And almost 1-in-5 has some form of mental, emotional, or behavioral condition. So when you take a 30,000 foot view of that, it shows you that something is happening to the neurological systems, in other words, the brains of our kids. And Western medicine classically doesn't address root cause, at least in the way that we were trained in medical school and the ways it's still practiced today.

So if you step back and say, what's causing this? Why is this happening? There are certain questions that are valuable to ask. And that is what is causing. Hi, welcome to the maps webinar series, healing tomorrow's future.

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So hello. Welcome to the MAPS podcast, the Medical Academy of Pediatrics and Special Needs. It is a real pleasure for me today to welcome Dr. Larry Pavleski, who is an holistic and integrative pediatrician of the highest order. I'm privileged to call him a colleague as a practice in Long Island, New York. And he has some extraordinary thoughts to share about what is happening to children's brains. So Larry, I want you to spend a little bit of time painting a pretty dire picture of what's happening to our kids' health and brains, but I'd like to focus mostly on details about that, so give our audience a bit Sure, thank you, Liz.

Well, if you look at the data coming out of the CDC, we are told that one in six children has a neurodevelopmental disability. We are that 1 in 31 children have autism. One in 20 under the age of five has seizures, and almost one in five have some form of mental, emotional, or behavioral condition. So when you take a 30,000-foot view of that, it shows you that something is happening to the neurological systems, in other words, the brains of our kids. And Western medicine classically doesn't address root cause, at least in the way that we were trained in medical school and the ways it's still practiced today.

So if you step back and say, what's causing this? Why is this happening? There are certain questions that are valuable to ask, and that is, What is causing us? And is there anything we're doing in daily life or daily medical life that could be contributing to the inflammation that we're seeing. And that's the interesting thing is that the thread through the data that I just went through is almost all these kids are experiencing chronic neurological inflammation. And inflammation is one of those buzzwords that you hear.

And everyone wants to lower inflammation and give a drug or give us supplement or something that's gonna lower information. But the fact of the matter is inflammation means that the body is attacking either something. That's a threat or itself or both. So we tend to think more in terms of modulating the immune system and, you know, we've talked about the benefits of inflammation when it's acute and it resolves, but then, chronic inflammation is where we get into the most trouble. So what are your thoughts about how this might be affecting children's mental health in terms of things like anxiety, depression?

Well, it's interesting because if you're interested in asking what's causing neuroinflammation, not just acutely, but chronically, or what would be called subacutly. So it happens chronical,y but acute flares. And my interest started about 27, 28 years ago when a mother came up to me and said, Dr. Larry, did you know there's mercury in vaccines? And I said what? because this was 15 years after I started medical school. And I said, instead of doing what a lot of my colleagues were doing at the time, which was dismissing her and saying, ah, don't worry about it.

It doesn't do anything to the body. I delved into the literature and I say, what is this? Why is it in there? And what else is in And over the years, it became clear to me that there are ingredients in the shots that can and do go into the brain. So one of the reasons I think many pediatricians did not know about mercury is that the name on the label was thimerosal, but in fact, that is another word for a type of mercury. Right. So when I looked initially, 50% ethyl mercury, and of course, what is etho mercury and why is it in there?

And then, of course, mothers are told when they're pregnant, don't eat fish, which is methylmercury. And so some of the pro-vaccine experts who commented on thimerosal said, no, it's a different kind of mercury that doesn't stay in the brain. But of, course they didn't have the material to confirm that. And then I thought the kicker was when Dr. Boyd Haley, who was a professor emeritus of chemistry at the University of Kentucky, did an experiment. And he just exposed human brain cells to estrogen and testosterone.

Then he administered thimerosal to both groups.

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What he found was that the testosterone bathed neurons completely died. But the estrogen bathed neurons died, but not all of them. Because many people have said, why is it that 3 to 1, 4 to one, 5 to1 boys are getting these neurodevelopmental disabilities more than girls? And Boyd-Haley used that as the framework to say, well, maybe there's better detoxification in an estrogen environment than there is in a testosterone environment, meaning that you need every woman to keep the species going for survival.

but you don't eat every man. And he was suggesting that there is a toxicity to shots and it does affect the neurons in the brain and that maybe we should be looking at this. Of course, here we are 25 years later and we're still injecting thimerosal into children, pregnant women, and adults. And the secretary at HHS, Kennedy, is now trying to get all shots containing mercury off the market, which is great. The other study that really affected me was Tom Burbacher looking at the monkeys and realizing that when the ethyl mercury from the shots went into the brain, it tended to stay there a very long time.

Because a lot of mainstream academic pediatricians were publishing papers saying, Oh, we give the shots and it isn't in the blood a few days later. So it was like, oh, it's gone. Well, the place that went was not out of the body. It was into the brains and other fat-containing tissues. Yeah. And that's the unfortunate conclusion, which was we're going to say because it is not in blood, therefore, is it not the in body? Right. But that doesn't mean it isn't in the body. And so nowadays, children have shots that contain aluminum.

The original aluminum was not a nanoparticle. It was a microparticles. and the literature clearly shows that micopartsicles were used as adjuvants to stimulate or catalyze an immune response because it is taught that a vaccine is not effective until you get an antibody response. And they found that microparticles don't give a great antibody respond. It's a weak antibody responds. So they started using nanoparticle and found there was lower inflammation at the site and there was better production of antibody.

And then they just walked away and said, see, we got an effective vaccine and we have an aluminum nanoparticle giving us an antibody, and then, they walked way. So, when I first learned about nanопarticles and aluminum, I said well, don't want to learn about the properties of nanopardicles. I went into the literature and found that drug companies use nanopodicals to bind to drugs to get them into the brain, because there's something called the blood-brain barrier. And it doesn't take high lipid molecules or high fat molecules, cause the Blood-Brain Barrier is a barrier for a reason.

The literature specifically said, the Blod-Brain Barriers is the hindrance to drug delivery to the Brain. So they developed a model. What was the model? Attach drugs nanoparticles and watch to see if the drugs get into brain. So they would send dyes into the brain, into bloodstream, and they'd see where did the dye go with the nanoparticle. And they found that the nano particles would go into ventral surface of the brains, which is the medulla and the pons, at the lower part of cerebellum. Then it would goes to the dorsal side of it.

which is responsible for motor development, the beginnings of language, and the beginning of motor planning. And then it goes to the prefrontal cortex, which was responsible speech. The dyes would show that there was edema in those areas in animal studies. And I thought, okay, Houston, we have a problem because one in six children with neurodevelopmental disabilities have behavioral problems, motor planning and motor tone coordination, balance and strength problems. and they have speech problems.

And those are the three areas of the brain where nanoparticles go. Yeah. Then when you look into the articles about using nanopharticle to get drugs into brain, it says specifically, these nanos are used to target specific brain areas. Now, they weren't happy with that. they had to add an emulsifier to it, and they used polysorbid 80. And they found that by adding polyserbid-80 on top of the nanoparticle with the drug, they got 20-fold increase of drug delivery into the brain to target brain areas.

I said, holy cow. Because what is the technology that's used for vaccines to increase antibody response and disperse vaccine material away from the injection site, aluminum nanoparticles and polysorbid 80. And so when I present this to families and I presented this audiences, one of the questions they ask me, is this intentional? Because it seems like they're using the technology to deliver drugs into the brain as the same technology framework to make most of vaccines. So you would think that they know, like the drug manufacturers and the vaccine manufacturers are talking to each other maybe.

So it looks to parents and it look to medical doctors and practitioners who are scientific. that they would know that nanoparticles attached to bacteria and viruses and other vaccine antigens, contaminants, foods, who knows what else, with the aluminum nanopodical, WITH the polysorbid 80, is directly going into the brain. And so we have a model to explain one in six children with neurodevelopmental disabilities, chronic inflammation, one and 31 children, with autism chronic neuroinflammation, 1 in 20 kids under the age of five with seizures, Chronic inflammation.

One in nine kids with ADHD chronic, inflammation and all of them have behavioral problems, motor problems and speech problems. which is what the animal studies show, when you give nanoparticles and you follow where they go into the brain, they cause inflammation in the areas that control behavior, motor planning, and speed. And so it's almost like a cognitive dissonance that the medical profession and the scientific profession, certainly the media and government, would know this or hear it and not all of a sudden put a moratorium on vaccines.

Because I don't think we need any more studies, because the studies are there. I mean, the animal studies were there, and we're doing the delivery of vaccine ingredients into the brain. And the big question is, do vaccine ingredient belong in the brains? No. Well, one of the benefits of an intact blood brain barrier is to try to protect the brain. We used to think that we have this like protected sanctuary, but most of patients I take care of with complex chronic illness have a very leaky or permeable blood-brain barrier.

And can you talk a little bit about what a blood, brain-barrier is like in a neonate and how it progresses in some of environmental things that can make it leakey? So the blood-rain barrier, as the literature says, is a set of cells that creates an extra protection for material in the body to not go into the brain. So white blood cells, red blood cell, certain proteins, drugs, ions, and viruses and bacteria. At least that's the major list. And when babies are born, that blood-brain barrier is underdeveloped.

And, you know, I've seen reports that says it takes three years. I have seen other reports says that it take 12 years, but there are areas of the blood brain barrier that are weak, almost never develop fully to protect the brain. So there's always passage. Now, if you look into the literature, it says even in chronic neurological conditions, where the blood-brain barrier is permeable, it's still difficult to get drugs into the brain. So there's, despite permeability, there is still this protection of the Blood-Brain Barrier from allowing certain things to go in.

But then the literature goes, okay, well, what can break down the blood-brain barrier? Well, infection, trauma, ischemia, so strokes, inflammation, right, because every vaccine causes inflammation. Radiation, cell phones, Wi-Fi. So watch the kids, please take the radiation materials away from the kid and certainly not near their heads. High osmolarity. So if you have like sugar or salt in high concentrations, it can shrink the blood brain barrier and sort of like open the gates for things to walk in to the brain.

And so we don't think about these things when we're living daily life. because there's a reason blood material should not go into the brain. And so the question is not only are the nanoparticles in the polycerbit 80 attached to the bacteria and the viruses entering the brains when kids are vaccinated, but does it open the blood-brain barrier to blood carrying material, red blood cells, white blood cell, proteins that are known to cause inflammation in the brain. And again, I have to repeat this, Liz.

These children have chronic neuroinflammation. All the studies on the macrophages, the microbial activation, these are happening. Nobody's looking at why. Why are these kids having brain inflammation? And that's where Western medicine falls short, because they just wait for the symptom and say, okay, we'll learn to treat it.

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And that's not what we're here to do, not at MAPS and not anywhere in a functional medicine approach that says, you know, why does this kid have inflammation and what can we do to lower it? And what could we to get rid of it. Right. Well, as you know, early in my functional medicine career, I was very worried about mercury and vaccines, and now I'm very worry about aluminum in vaccines. And you mentioned aluminum being carried into the brain. So I wonder if you could talk a little bit about the bad stuff aluminum does, what we've seen when we looked for aluminum, in the brains of people with autism or Alzheimer's, And tell us more about that.

So aluminum as a nanoparticle easily passes through cell membranes. Right. The blood-rain barrier is just one subset of cell membranes. And so aluminum has been found in the brains of people with Alzheimer's and dementia. Aluminum has be found to biopersist in brains children with autism who died of other causes who were autopsied. But most importantly, and people ignore this, is that aluminum destroys mitochondria. And if you go through the one in six children with neurodevelopmental disabilities and all the other chronic illnesses that you see in medicine, children and adults, what's the underlying thing that all functional medicine practitioners talk about?

Mitochondrial dysfunction. For the listeners who don't know what mitochondrial are, they are the fuels of the cells. And so if your cells need to function, they need energy. And in order to produce energy, the mitochondria need be strong. There are a lot of people who do a lots of functional medicine work to try to strengthen the Mitochondria. It can be very difficult because aluminum is very hard as a nanoparticle to get out of the body. and it is a non-essential nutrient in the body. Years ago, when I was reading about inflammatory bowel disease, I had to write a medical exemption letter for a girl who had inflammatory disease who needed a shot for school based on that had aluminum in it.

I found literature that showed that aluminum also disrupts the lysosomes of the cells. And the lysosomes are basically the garbage disposals of the cells. And so if you can't produce energy for the cell to function, because your mitochondria are impaired, and then you destroy or impair lysostomal activity, you cannot get rid of wastes. What is chronic inflammation? Build up of waste that your body cannot rid off. cell function diminishes or dies prematurely, tissues can't function, and organs fail.

And so when you look at the chronic inflammation epidemic that we have in our country, children and adults, we're seeing chronic buildup of wastes, failure of the body to detoxify, and chronic inflammation leading to real debilitation. And the thing is that if you are interested in wanting to do something about it, then you want to make a choice about whether the toxicity is worth what you perceive as protection, which again is a perception because vaccines fail and they don't protect you more often than not.

That's not even talked about, Liz. And so as a physician, our job is informed consent, weighing the pros and the cons and risks and benefits. And is an acute illness like chickenpox, although that doesn't have aluminum, but an illness worth preventing or thinking that you're preventing for potential permanent damage of your immune system and your nervous system? So great question. Before we leave mitochondria, I've always been so surprised that since mitochondrion is so fundamental for energy production, but they also have this kind of like a dispatcher at a taxi station where they are very important in giving other parts of the cell instructions.

but they're so persnickety. You know, not just aluminum, but all the heavy metals are hard on mitochondria. Viruses, bacterial infections are on them. They don't even like it if the cell is a little bit too salty or not salty enough or a bit to acidic or acidic enough. So I do worry that along with chronic neuroinflammation, our children are having chronic mitochondrial toxicity. Correct. Well, I mean, the best literature on that is the literature of cancer as a metabolic disease. Because what you see is that it's not the genetics of the cell that are responding to the environment.

It's the mitochondria that's being destroyed. and getting information from the cell membrane that then feed into the mitochondria that, then, signal the nuclei where the chromosomes are. And it's the dysfunctional mitochondrial. Like, if you take mitochondrion from someone who has cancer and implant the mitocondria into healthy cells where there is no cancer, those cells become cancers. Yeah. But if you take the nuclei of the cells where there is cancer and you transplant it into healthy cells, there's no cancer.

And so you're right. I mean, the mitochondria are so vital for communication between the nucleus where our genes are. to the cell membrane where the membrane is saying, okay, the tentacles are here, what's good, are like, take a club. The cell membrane and the glycolipids and glyphosolipides and glycoproteins are the bouncers. And the nanoparticles are people who get into the club past the Bouncers, and Bousers don't even know about it. So they get in to the Club and they don' belong in the Clubs and create havoc because they bypass the bounsers.

That's what happens with nano-particles and polysorbid 80. is they can sneakily get in, and that's when they impair mitochondria. They impair the lysosomes. And if they get into the nucleus, they could actually create an autoimmune response in the nuclear, because it is known, we haven't discussed this much, but you and I have, that aluminum, Yehuda Schoenfeld in Israel has published a whole book on this, the aluminum can actually creating the setting for autoimmunity. And we have an exponential rise in autoimmunity in our children and in adults with or without neurodevelopmental disabilities.

And so that's one of the reasons I say we don't need any more research on vaccines. We have it, but we're not using the precautionary principle, which is first do no harm. So when the message comes out, no, they're studied, safe, and I delve into the literature and say, wait a second, Where is the literature that says, we injected 200 kids with aluminum nanoparticle, and we followed, traced it. Where does it go in the body? And what does do? Does it into the brain? does go into cells? Doesn't affect inflammation?

doesn't it affect mitochondria? It doesn' affect license homes. Doesn' it effect nuclei? We compared it to 200 kid who got a saline. No, We don't have those studies. But we have the ongoing victimization of kids and adults, and then this very poor surveillance system that's not really looking into the nitty-gritty that we would like to look into. And so I don't think we need any more studies. I think need a moratorium because the science is very clear. I agree with the issue that if we took all the studies that we have and really were able to get that out to the public and the researchers and scientists and pediatricians, it would open so many eyes.

So we need to take what we know and collate it and disperse it, and I think that would be a huge service to humanity. Oh, I agree with you 100%, although my nervous system then says, what then? Yeah. Because if you have all these people in medicine, pediatricians, adult medicine government, media, even the pharmaceutical industry go, oh, they figured it out. What happens, right? Because we've believed in these things and we dedicated our careers on making sure kids got these And what did we do? Oh my God, what have we created?

And so what you will potentially see is riots, uprisings, collapses, who knows, military, law, and I'm going to get a little cynical here. because the government depends on our ignorance to continue to put forth things like vaccines, which have never been tested for safety, and actually show something more damaging than one could ever even imagine. I want to talk in specific for a minute about MMR vaccine, which is one that I became concerned about in the late 90s.

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And I know you have a special interest in some of those ingredients. So let's talk a little bit about why almost a quarter of my patients who have autism have parents that tell me it really seemed like he or she regressed after getting the MMR vaccine. Why might that be true? And then I'm going to ask you to carry it further to sort of a risk benefit analysis of how bad it is to get lesals, especially in the current climate where we are seeing it circulate again. Sure. Well, I'm going to start with primary and secondary vaccine failure.

Perfect. Because I don't know if people will be able to stomach what I say after I answer the real question that you asked. So people automatically assume if you get an MMR vaccine, immunity happens. And so vaccination does not always equal immunity. Right. That's a problem. Because what does the literature say about the MMR? Two to 10% of children given the MMR don't develop any antibody at all. So already, that's more than the kids who have religious exemption, philosophical exemption and medical exemptions.

Potentially, so you have vaccinated kids who don't get any antibody who are essentially unvaccinated then you of kids you get the MMR and Develop an antibody but the antibody isn't protective because we can produce different kinds of antibodies But it doesn't necessarily mean it is protective. We don' know the percentage of those kids So those are both primary vaccine failures So that's two groups of kids who get the MMR. They're essentially unvaccinated. Then you have a third group that gets the MR and they develop an antibody.

But then that antibody is protective, but it doesn't last as protection. So, that vaccine, group would be considered secondary vaccine failure. When a measles outbreak occurs, It's only blamed, only. Even though the literature says there are other reasons for measles outbreaks, like people coming in from other countries, the vaccine itself causing a measle outbreak, we ignore that. And we also ignore primary vaccine failure, two types, and secondary vaccine. which means that outbreaks can occur because of kids who were vaccinated who are essentially serologically unvaccinated.

So I want to make that clear because when the measles outbreaks occur, it is like from top down, get your MMR. And I think there's a lot of problems with that recommendation because we don't have enough data to actually prove that the MMR administration is protecting enough kids. So I just wanna get that out of the way. And can I add that you and I have both seen the data, Corpus Christi, Texas, multiple college campuses, the Israeli military, in situations in which they were able to document 98, 99% MMMR coverage, they still had outbreaks and measles virus tends to follow a cyclical pattern every few years.

But you don't hear those data points in the news. You'll only hear data where they know kids who are unvaccinated got the measles, or they will assume that if they don�t know the vaccination status of kids that got measle, they'll group them in un-vaccinate, because they�ll never report that measles happened in vaccinated children. So it does bode the question, do they have an agenda to spread misinformation? And again, I'll let the listener ponder that for a second. But as you said, Liz, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of parents, my kid was fine.

And within minutes, hours, Days, weeks, months, and even years, my child got the MMR and slipped away. What does slipped-away mean? Loss of eye contact, loss of babbling, lost of words, somber affect. Sad, just no smile, no connection, being in their own world, banging their head against the wall, hand flapping, arm fapping, spinning, jumping, running. self-injury. I mean, these are huge, huge issues that parents- And lots of gastrointestinal problems. Gastro-intesinal, diarrhea. And what we didn't know initially was abdominal pain because the kids would be rocking and they'd be holding their guts or leaning up against a hard chair and screaming and streaming and screening, flinging their poop against the wall because parents didn' know what was going on.

And so certainly when we as clinicians hear that once, twice, that's weird. I've never seen that before. But then when you start seeing it dozens and hundreds and thousands and maybe millions of times, no one stepped back to say, wait a second, is there something in these shots? that would affect the brain such that there's such change, seizure, encephalopathy, even studies that showed that measles virus was found in the cerebral spinal fluid. Shouldn't that raise a suspicion that, well, is that related to the en cephalopothy or the encephalitis?

And is it chronic? Is it acute? So I just said, all right, what's in this shot? because something's got to be in there. And so I found that besides the live measles virus and the lives mumps virus, and a live rubella virus. There are three ingredients that are right there after that. Sorbitol, sodium phosphate and sucrose. Now, there's no aluminum in the MMR. Correct. There's not polysorbidated. And there was never any mercury. Thank you. Because people say it, and it doesn't do the subject well if you say misinformation.

Sorbitol, sodium phosphate, sucrose. Good recipe for messing up your blood-brain barrier, sounds like. That's what's so concerning. is that all the literature I looked at says sorbitol should not be injected into the body. Well, that should stop the MMR program right there. And the reason being is sorbotol is used to bind to chemotherapy agents. to treat brain cancers because the drug doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier. But sorbitol, bound to a transporter, down to the drugs, gets it into the brain.

So I thought, wow, well, there's a model.

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And, you know, polysorbid A.D. is taken from sorbitol. You have something that, cousins, so to speak, or son and daughter, mother and daughters, compounds. Sorbitols shouldn't be injected. and it can be used to get drugs into the brain to treat cancers. But then I thought, what's the phosphate and the sucrose doing there? You know, a lot of kids bounce off the wall from sugar, and is it because sucrose is sensitizing them to sugar? Or why is sugar in there, I mean, why do you need sugar for? So sorbitol itself doesn't get in across the blood-brain barrier, but a compound called sorbitol-6-phosphate does.

And I thought, okay, sorbitol combines with sodium phosphate. Is that what causes sorbetol 6-phosphate? Because that crosses the blood-brain barrier. Now, why would you want it to cross the brain barrier? And why do you need sorbotol in there? what destroys the blood-brain barrier? And I went through all the lists of things, and one of them is osmolarity. So sorbitol is a sugar. Sucrose is the sugar, sugars at high concentrations can shrink the brain barrier. Do sorbital and sucrose put enough of an osmalarity or solute load into the bludstream that the barrier, instead of being like this, it shrinks, so you open the gates.

for not only live virus and cell contamination from the MMR, but anything else. Because parents see it right away. And if you remember, when we learned about measles as kids, we learn that there's an entity called SSPE. subacute sclerosing panencephalitis. And the original reason for starting MMR in 1963, even though deaths from measles had already severely decreased by the time the vaccine entered into society, they were worried about SSP, which is a delayed measle's infection response that goes on to cause brain inflammation and brain damage.

Will, is that what's happening? Because the sorbitol makes sorbital 6-phosphate, or the sucrose in the Sorbitil create a solute load, Or the Sorbital creates an opportunity to open the floodgates and let measles virus, mumps virus or rubella virus Or blood materials or other vaccine ingredients to get into the brain. And then we see it months or years later, what looks to us as clinicians like panencephalitis. So, gee, Larry, does the MMR insert say anything about SSPE or encephalytis or encephalopathy being adverse of it you could see from M MR?

Well, it depends on who you ask. Because those who don't read the package insert say that the MMR does not cause encephalopathy, allopothy, or en cephalitis. But those do read package the insert, say the MMR, in rare cases, can cause, en cephalypathy and en sepholitis And so you essentially have the creation of the thing that you're afraid of by a live measles infection by administering the MMR. And I just want to throw a caveat in here because when Andy Wakefield did his study in Lancet in 1998, one of things he said, which goes overlooked, was that when kids get a natural live measles infection in nature and then get natural, live mumps infection, in-nature, close together, they have a propensity to develop more often inflammatory bowel disease.

And so when he was doing the scopes on the kids that came to him, he saw inflammatory battle disease, And in the reports, the parents would say, my kid got the MMR and then this happened and this happen. So he made the recommendation. If live measles infection and live mumps infection in nature close together increase inflammatory bowel disease in children, and I'm seeing it in kids who get the live-measles, live months vaccine, Maybe it would be better so as to reduce the possibility of inflammatory bowel disease in these kids if we gave the measles and the mumps and rubella shots separately.

And we all know what happened after that. Because I used to order them separately back when I had patients that were requesting those vaccines and I thought it was fabulous and tell us what happen very shortly after. Well, Dr. Wakefield got stripped of his license as a pediatric gastroenterologist in England, and they stopped administering the separate measles, mumps and rubella shots. They took away the option, so we didn't have further opportunity to test that hypothesis. And two things about the Wakefilled study.

He ended his paper saying the parents report this association it deserves further research. Right. That was widely misreported as him implicating MMR directly. Second thing which he didn't say was true until years later. He initially never said it. And then the other thing you may not know is that on my community hospital, we actually replicated Andy Wakefield's work. We had 20 or 30 kids that were being scoped for other reasons, 20-30 that I thought were consistent with MMR regression. Our community pathologist, who was absolutely blinded, did not which biopsies came from which kids, reported the same kind of inflammation, the kind lymphoid nodular hyperplasia.

And why do you not know about that? Because one of our collaborators in Europe, who was doing a lot of the analysis, once Dr. Wakefield went before the board in the UK, they dropped us like a hot potato. They wouldn't answer our emails. And so I always feel very guilty about the fact that I was never able to really get that out into the medical literature. And to your point, I can imagine how it feels to know that literature and not be able to get it out as a peer-reviewed paper. But to you point I think listeners should know maybe over 80% of children who have autism have regressive autism.

And so that means that there's an event or a series of events that actually cause neuro information and encephalopathy. And in some ways, I review the regressive version as easier to treat. Not that it's easy, but it points us to specific things that we can work on. And there are ways to try to address neuroinflammation, mitochondrial disorders, all the rest. But my concern, because you and I have seen the worst of the affected kids, And when you look at them, at least my question when I look them is, what got into your brain?

Because we know that the vaccines are contaminated, because we that vaccine manufacturers have no incentive because they have liability for their product. They have incentive to make a safer product, and we it's been established, government down. that vaccines are unavoidably unsafe. And that includes the MMR. Correct. So what is being done to actually evaluate the contents of these vaccines? Nothing. What's being to evaluate manufacturing process? nothing. Because they don't need to put the money into it.

Right. It doesn't matter because they can produce whatever they want at as low a cost as possible and nobody's going to hold them accountable. Larry, you're referring to the 1986 Act, which was actually brought up because vaccine manufacturers were threatening to get out of the market, especially the DPT manufacturers, because they had so many lawsuits about the brain damage with whole cell pertussis vaccine that they threatened not to do vaccines anymore if they didn't have that protection. And it was passed in an era where vaccines were discussed as if, they were, the greatest invention on demand.

So we have quite a conundrum. Yeah. I mean, what's interesting about that is that the 1986 act still gave the manufacturers liability if anybody could prove that they could have designed it better, or they would have design it safer. Nobody ever brought a suit until 2011 when the Supreme Court actually took it all away. So even if you could find reason to believe that it could've made it safe, they still couldn't be sued. But that original 1986 act actually gave medical doctors liability. And within two years, the Democrats in the House actually worked to remove all doctor liability, so now no one's really liable.

If you think the vaccine court is a court, it's more like a kangaroo court than anything else. That's what's sad about it. Yeah, it's very disheartening. I was one of the experts in the autism omnibus trial, and on the basis of six cases, that in my heart, I still think we proved causality. They dismissed 5,000 cases. they used test cases rather than trying all the individual cases so.

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Yeah but if they knew the pharmacology of vaccine ingredients, they might have been a little different outcome. And, you know, the other issue was if they did compensate 5,000 kids and open those floodgates, some of the estimates are that it's as high as $10 to $30 billion in compensation, which obviously the federal government would prefer not to have to pay. Well, but it is interesting because it isn't the government's money. The 75 cents of every vaccine goes to this pot. So it's not even the government.

But what it really is, it is not about their money. It's about they're having to admit that vaccines cause injury. Correct. That's very good. Well, I wanted to talk just a little bit about one of the issues that's up for debate now, which is about the issue of COVID so-called vaccines. I call them injections or shots because I view them as a gene therapy product. Many of us are trying to get those off the market and working with organizations to put pressure on Congress to work on that. Do you have an opinion about that?

Sure. In 1976, the swine flu vaccine caused about 54 deaths. You know, I see 45, 54. It's around that number. And because of the report of those deaths, the government shut down the Swine Flu. Somehow we have amnesia about proper scientific protocol because there's no doubt that there have been millions of deaths from the COVID shot. There's no moratorium on getting rid of this shot. This is not a vaccine. It was never a vaccination. And for those who want to go into the weeds, even the manufacturers of the shot say in their package inserts their patents.

This is not a shot that's supposed to protect against disease. It is gene therapy. So there was never a vaccine because before the CDC changed the definition of what a We know a vaccine as a product that's administered to create an immune response and offer protection against an infectious disease. Period. They never proved that COVID was an infection disease, even though they said they did, because there are a lot of holes in their arguments. And you and I know that when a vaccine trial is done, it's 7, 10, 12, 15 years long.

And this type of technology, so-called mRNA, with different lipo-nanoparticles had never been shown to protect any human from getting an infection. And so we were thrust with a shot that the technology was never used to detect against an infectious disease. It was ever tested to project against infectious diseases. because there were new ingredients that had never been injected that we know of into humans and studied. And yet, how many billions of people ran to get it? And so, if you look at the data that see, not the date that's reported to us, besides sudden death from the shot, myocarditis, heart failure, blood clots, strokes, diabetes, liver disease, kidney disease.

Infertility, miscarriage, stopping menopause, recreating menopus, seizures, brain damage, dysautonomia, cancer, dermatitis, thyroid problems, change in mental status, dementia. I mean, that's significant. Yeah, horrifying. And not to mention, birth defects. Stillborns. neurological delay in kids. And these weird small fiber neuropathies in adults where people feel like they're constantly being electrocuted from the inside out. It's really horrific. I really hope that we're able to move. At least for the children, who we as adults have a moral imperative to try to protect, I don't want children to continue to get those awful gene products with so many potential side effects.

and no history of effectiveness. Correct and never shown to prevent transmission. And data now showing that the more vaccines you get the, more likely you are to get COVID compared to those of us who are unvaccinated. Right and the More vaccines, you Get the. More likely, You are, to Get other infections. What's interesting, when this first came out, we were told that spike protein is what causes COVID symptoms, the illness. And I said, okay, maybe, let's take that as truth. that was going to allow people to manufacture spike protein without any evidence of if it turned off the production, when it turn off production or what side effects there would be because of the productions of spike proteins.

Without any knowledge of whether an antibody could be produced, would produced or would produce in sufficient quantities that it would counteract the presence of the spike protein. And so why would you give a shot? Why would take a shots? Knowing that the spiked protein causes the illness, and then you're going to get a shock so that you can produce it and get sick from it without thinking that it was the vaccine that did it to you. Because how many people would say, I got the shot, but I still got COVID anyway?

Well, yeah, because the shot poisons you with spike protein, assuming that's what it was because nobody knows what's in it. It's just insane. There's no science. it's not even science fiction. Well, both you and I have worked very hard to try to raise awareness of this. And I spent three years of my life doing a deep dive into that for the book I wrote about kids in COVID, and every day was more horrifying than the last. So sticking to the parents out there, don't take our word for it. You know, look at the data.

Look to see that what Larry and are saying has been shown in scientific published literature now that is multiplying almost exponentially their new articles

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every day. So I always have such a good time talking to Larry. I want to thank you for tuning in. Larry, if there are people that want know more about your work, do you have ways for them to read about what you write? Sure. Thank you, Liz. I have a website, Dr. Polewski.com, and I've done many, many podcast interviews that are in the media section of my website. And I do a Thursday night at 7 p.m. Eastern Time podcast every week. for the last almost six years with Dr. T, Dr Sherry Tenpenny, called Critically Thinking with Doctor T and Dr P.

And I have an Instagram profile at dr.polewski, the Telegram channel Dr Polewsky. I'm sure there are other social media platforms out there that I am on. But yeah, my efforts are really to just give people the opportunity to learn and make an informed decision about their lives. Well, thank you so much, Larry. I really appreciate you coming on today. This has been a maps podcast. Thank you. So much for tuning in. Thanks so. Much for joining us today, I'm honey Rinusella, and this is maps. As we heal tomorrow's future, we appreciate.

You joining. Us on the journey. We'll see you next time.