Red Light Therapy: Healthy Skin, Sex, Hair, & Hormones

Eric James

Yeah, thank you for having me. I’m super excited to talk and I also love to color red.

Dr. Sharon Stills

My pleasure and thank you. Eric is a sponsor of the summit, so he’s really… There are men out there like Eric and other men who’ve been on the summit who really just support women and our hormonal journeys. And I just appreciate that and love that, that you’re here supporting us because it’s important and doing it with the color red. So I mean, let’s just jump in and for those who have never heard, what is red light therapy? Tell us about this.

Eric James

Yeah, so red light therapy is a very interesting non-pharmaceutical health option basically. So it has a lot of very interesting effects. Red light can actually go through tissue, which is interesting, not all wavelengths of light can. So if you have your cell phone that has the flashlight on it or if you ever, when you were a little kid and you held the flashlight up to your cheek, when you’re telling a story or under the blankets and you could see red cheek. So that’s actually the red light traveling through the tissue and it’s red instead of white because red light happens to be a wavelength that can travel through our tissues. So that’s step one or why it’s important. And step two, it actually has an effect on the immune system and on the mitochondria in your cells and it actually produces more ATP. So you can measure the ATP level produced in a Petri dish of human cells and it actually produces more energy. So what’s great about that is whatever your body is trying to do, if it’s having trouble doing it, whether it’s healing an injury or just recovering from a day of being a human in the world, it’s gonna actually give you that energy boost. As we all know, we can do a lot more and recover a lot faster if we’re full of energy. We can tackle any problem better if we’re full of energy and so can our body. So red light therapy fundamentally, gives your cells more energy to do what they’re already trying to do, whether that’s produce hormones, whether that’s heal your skin, whatever it is that your body’s trying to do. So it ends up having a lot of really interesting effects on the skin, on the body, on yeah, all the systems, on hair growth. So yeah, that’s a basics of it.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Hair growth, we’re gonna talk about that. But before we go there, I didn’t even ask you, I got so excited that it was red. How did you… Do you have a personal story? How did you get involved in red light therapy?

Eric James

Yeah, so my stepmom, when I was young, she had nerve pain in her feet and ended up finding these custom red LED boots. And it was the only thing that she found that worked for her, it actually gave her some relief for that. And I thought at the time that it was probably a placebo, I’m like, “There’s no way shining a red light on your body does anything.” But I didn’t tell her that because I said, “Well, the placebo’s working so let’s not mess that up.” And then years later, my ex-wife and I were pregnant with our first child and she was having problems with her hair thinning, she had eczema, she had these things going on and I’m really trying to help her with these things and researching. And I keep finding red light therapy for skin conditions and for hair growth. And so like, man, I looked and there’s Harvard Medical School studies and I was like, “Wow, after all these years, it turns out this is real.” The more I dug into it, I was like the fact that this is this good. When you read the studies and you find out how powerful it is, and that it’s not in every home, didn’t make sense to me. So I was like, “What’s the problem?” And one of the problems was, it was too expensive. And so one of the goals I had with this company was to improve the technology to make it easier to use but also cut the cost in half. And so it’s like twice the power, half the cost, easier to use. And so I just saw the opportunity. I’m a lifelong entrepreneur and so I’m always looking for different opportunities, but mostly ones that can serve somebody, that there’s a true value exchange there. 

So yeah, we tried on her arms, luckily she had eczema on both arms so we could split test it. So we tried on one arm and then it actually healed the eczema, not saying that it will for everybody, but for some people it definitely does. And for her, it totally worked. And then two weeks later we tried the other arm and that work too. Also, she used to get hair extensions put in, ’cause she was self-conscious about her hair thinning and then she didn’t need to do that anymore. And she still doesn’t, her hair is super thick and she loves it. And so she had stretch marks from the pregnancy as well, that all completely went away using the red light therapy. So yeah, just seeing how positively it affected her and then for me personally, one of the challenges I had previously as a programmer sitting in front of the computer was hemorrhoids. And so I was like, “Might as well try it and see what happens.” And I found that it helped heal them way faster. It was like a couple days instead of a couple weeks or a couple months sometimes. So yeah, just a couple days and it just took the pain away in the meantime. And I was so shocked at how well that worked that yeah, I was like, “Okay, this is the business for me. This is what I want to do.”

Dr. Sharon Stills

So for the hemorrhoids, do you just sit in front of it and put your butt out or do you have a probe that you use inside the rectum or how does that work?

Eric James

Well, yeah just stand in front of it and open things up so the light can get in there.

Dr. Sharon Stills

I love that.

Eric James

Yeah, and it totally works, so for me that was the big… It was cool to have a personal experience. As a guy, I’m not as concerned with skin and things like that, although all guys actually are but we pretend we’re not. But for me to have a real experience of something that was a pain in the ass for me–

Dr. Sharon Stills

Literally .

Eric James

That got solved, I was like, “This is definitely worth it.”

Dr. Sharon Stills

And for stretch marks, are these just for new stretch marks? Or does it work if you’ve had your baby 30 years ago?

Eric James

Yeah, so it depends on exactly what your body is currently trying to do in those areas and stuff, but it definitely has an anti-cellulite effect, it can heal if there’s old scars of any kind, stretch marks or surgeries or anything like that. Most of the studies on red light therapy that have been done are skin related. So even a lot of mainstream surgeries, they will prescribe a small red light just to treat that exact spot where the tissue is healing, but you might as well treat the entire body and then you get the systemic effect as well as the effect on the individual thing. So yeah, it could definitely have an effect on an old stretch mark or scar.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So ladies can see why I brought Eric. We were just getting started, we’ve already got hemorrhoids, we’ve got stretch marks, we’ve got hair loss, we’ve got more energy. I mean–

Eric James

It’s pretty amazing. That’s why I’m so exited when I was reading. So I’m like, “How does everyone not know about this?”

Dr. Sharon Stills

I know and I always say there’s no magic pills but there are some magic gadgets that really can… And as you were talking about, I’m thinking, “Gosh, it should just be part of the new builds when construction men or women build houses, the contractors, they should just be paneling red lights in the rooms for people.” It should just be something, as you were saying, you wanna see it in every house and I’m thinking, “Yeah, that’s how it should be done.” Because there are no… Are there any side effects?

Eric James

No, so there’s some, if you’re super sensitive to light or you’re on medications that make you sensitive to light, like Accutane has an example, which people use when they’re younger for acne, that can make you too sensitive to light. And so some people are also just naturally more sensitive to light. So if you’re someone who it’s too intense to be out in the sun or something, basically you would just wanna do a shorter time treatment because your body reacts quicker to the light. So it’s not that you can’t do it, it’s just that the total dose you need is much less. But yeah, there’s been like over 7,000 of studies now and so there’s no like long term negative side effects. Some people have a headache because the light is too bright. So we include a little glasses that are like blackout glasses, so that if you are gonna… If it’s too bright for you and it’s not comfortable, you can wear those. It’s possible to get too much light, just like it is at the beach. If you’re out in the light for eight hours or something, but this is just like a 10 minute treatment and you would have to stand in front of it for hours and hours to get too much of it.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So let’s keep going down the red light trail. So we’re here taught, a lot of the women here are either going to go through menopause soon or thinking about it or in the throws of menopause or they’re postmenopausal. So what can you say specifically for these women who are dealing with things from brain fog and concerns about bone and hot flashes and weight gain and urinary tract infections and I know they’re like, “What about for that?”

Eric James

Yeah, totally. So for hair, we can maybe start there. So that’s actually how red light therapy was discovered. They were doing a study on a rat or a set of rats for anti-cancer treatment with red light therapy, just testing with a red laser what would happen. And they were trying to shine it into their body. So they shaved them and shine this laser on their skin and and the one that got the red laser shined on it, grew the hair back so fast. They kept having to shave it to try to do the experiment, but the other one, the control, their hair didn’t grow back. So anyway, they’re like, “There’s some effect here going on that’s making this hair grow so quickly.” So red light therapy has been studied for that. It creates more new hair growth as well as improves the hair growth that there is, and actually prevents the hair follicles that would otherwise die from dying as often. And so you end up with… I have to get haircuts much more often because of this. So it can be pretty profound for hair growth and all that.

Dr. Sharon Stills

How long? So I have a couple of questions, so first say a woman has a thyroid that’s not functioning and that’s causing her hair to fall out and she’s losing her hair, will the red light handle it or she needs to do both? You still need to address what’s going on and then it enhances that or how does that work?

Eric James

That is an excellent question. So I love that I’m on here with you because you know how to get the baseline stuff handled, so that the body can do what it’s trying to do and this is like a boost to that. But the thyroid specifically, actually red light therapy is one of the treatments for low thyroid where it can upregulate any hormone that your body’s trying to produce. So just by getting the full body systemic effect and getting on your neck and everything like that, it can actually increase your thyroid amount, but you would wanna work with someone like you to make sure that that’s happening and that’s having the appropriate effect. And you’re also getting what other therapies you need to handle that. And if it’s low getting the… So you don’t necessarily have to shine directly on your hair but just even shining it on the rest of your body, your blood flows pretty quickly to all the areas of your body, right? And so you’re actually getting that red light therapy effect, even places like under your hair. So it would help, in theory, the hair not be as damaged by the low thyroid, or be able to survive that longer until you can get things evened out.

Dr. Sharon Stills

What if you have an active infection?

Eric James

So it doesn’t have any antibacterial or antiviral effects other than it does have an immune boosting effect. So just like it boosts everything, it makes your cells work better. It has been shown to boost your immune system temporarily. So that’s why you use it every day. So it might even give your immune system, five or 10% boost. And so if you’re fighting an infection again, it’s gonna just help your body. Your body’s really what’s doing it but it’s gonna help your body fight that infection.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Okay, so you don’t have to be worried about it, increasing circulation, increasing the infection or anything like that? It’s actually safe to do?

Eric James

Yeah. As far as I know, yes. But if you have something that’s that significant going on, definitely ask your doctor to clear you for that. We’ve never had a doctor say no. I mean, we tell everyone who buys one of these like, “Hey, if you’re trying to use it for some specific medical purpose,” you gotta ask your doctor to make sure it’s not gonna interact with something they’re trying to do specifically a cream or a pill that’s creating light sensitivity. That’s what we’re really talking about. But yeah, in general, there’s no indication that it’s dangerous for an infection.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Great, and so what about for brain fog?

Eric James

Yeah, so this is our new RedRush 400 Pulse and the Pulse is the important thing. So this is kind of the cutting edge in light therapies and so it can pulse at 40 Hertz, 20 Hertz and 10 Hertz. And your brain will actually entrain to that frequency. And so it’s showing very promising results in anti-Alzheimer’s studies and in mental health studies for depression, anxiety, things like that. Be it memory, all those things that you might relate to brain fog type of symptoms or worries, the pulsing of the lights actually has a very strong effect on the brain. They’re trying to figure out right now why it has that effect, whether it enhances the cleansing that’s happening in the brain at night or if it’s the melatonin that’s in our cells all the time that is increasing the signaling, so it makes you sharper. But yeah, it’s certainly something that you can feel a difference. At least I certainly can, after I use it. I feel like I drank coffee without being jittery or something like that. So I feel more energetic but also more focused.

Dr. Sharon Stills

that, that’s like perfect. So and is it something for the listeners if they try this, does it take a little time to build up or one session and you will feel it right away?

Eric James

Both. So you can feel some effects right away. If you’ve never done it before and you don’t get a lot of sunlight or you’re shining it in places that don’t get a lot of sunlight, which is for us we all have these areas that don’t get a lot of sun but kind of need it. So you’ll feel a tingle and what you’re actually feeling is nitric oxide getting knocked out where it’s stuck in the mitochondria. So oxygen can get back in, that’s actually how it produces more energy. So the tingling you actually feel yeah, is nitric oxide. And it’s kind of cool to be able to feel it doing its thing in your body, you can feel this tingle. It goes away after the first couple times you use it, because you don’t have stuck nitric oxide in there anymore. So it’s kind of like given an oil change to all your cells in your body. And so all of a sudden, they’re charged up and can go much faster. And then for skin or for hair or these kind of things, it’s like a 1% improvement per day kind of a situation. So it’s like a skin study typically they’re two months, three months long and they’ll do before and after pictures. So we definitely suggest people do that if they’re that curious, make sure to take a picture in the same place, the same time of day, same lighting, all that before and after so they can see the change, but you probably won’t see a change in your skin that day. It’s just given your cells a little nudge in the positive direction every single day, which over a month or a year or 10 years can have a pretty profound effect. So it’s kind of both of those.

Dr. Sharon Stills

I mean, it’s just something that is part of your daily plan indefinitely. It’s such a part of when I think of aging gracefully and healthy and reversing the aging process or at the very least slowing it down, such an important piece that you don’t have to swallow anything. You just stand in front of it. There’s no side effects. I mean, this is medicine. This is what medicine I think of like the whole pharmaceutical mindset and how God, they just so miss the boat because look at, I mean, we’ve already talked about it increasing hormone production, helping your hair, it’s shaking out your mitochondria and cleansing them. It’s enhanced… I mean, it’s doing so many things that in a traditional medical mindset, you’d be getting a pill for this and a pill for that, and a pill for this and a pill for that and all you have to do is like stand in front of the beautiful red light.

Eric James

Yeah, you need 100 pills or something. So one thing I think that’s important to mention is the reason why that happens is because we used to get a lot more sunlight. So we probably adapted to that and have these positive effects from light and saunas and there’s lots of different types of wavelengths that are helpful. But red and infra red light therapy specifically, you would normally get from the sun. And we used to be a lot less clothed than we are now. We’re sitting inside where we’re under blue lights, not red lights and we’re covering our bodies. So most of our body doesn’t get any light at all. So that’s the other thing is like, if you are willing to be naked outside in the sunlight enough every day, you’re gonna feel amazing and you probably don’t need one of these but kind of with modern society, we’ve gotta kind of bring back in some of the stuff that we used to naturally have and red light is one of those things.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Well, I’ll say that I do both.

Eric James

Awesome.

Dr. Sharon Stills

I don’t really care what my neighbors think, I’m gonna get my sun but I was gonna ask you, I’m glad you… What is the difference? ‘Cause I talk a lot and we’ve talked through interviews in the summit about the power of the sun, about… My morning routine is always getting my feet on the ground and watching the sunrise. And so how does this compare to the sun?

Eric James

So basically, the sun has all of those different healing wavelengths and like all the light nutrients that you need. The only downside, is you can get too much of the UV, obviously. You need it to produce that vitamin D and there maybe some other things that we don’t understand, it’s good for you to have that stress on your skin too. It’s kinda like a little workout for your skin but yeah, you can have too much of that. And so the red light therapy is really great in that you can’t… It’s very hard to overdo it and you’re getting about 100 times as much from this as you would from the sun. And so you’re actually getting a lot more than you could even get in the sun. And it actually still does have that slight stressing effect on the skin, which is part of the magic of how it works on the skin, is that it stimulates the skin to produce more collagen and more elastin. People are all about collagen supplements these days and everything but your body can make it. So this is one way red light therapy is one way to stimulate that and you can’t quite get the same stimulus without the damage in the sunlight that red light therapy can provide, without the risk of the UV damage.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So you wanna be like me and incorporate both. You wanna get your sun and get your red light too because they’re both–

Eric James

And I do both, I do both as well.

Dr. Sharon Stills

They’re both important. So what about for weight loss?

Eric James

Yeah, so weight loss is really interesting with red light therapy. So there’s a lot of marketing around. I’m trying to remember what they’re like, like cold laser and a bunch of these different terms. Low level laser therapy, all these things that are all actually just the same wavelengths of red light therapy that we have in our devices. And essentially what happens, is if you use this before you work out or before you even go for a walk or go for a jog, whatever it might be, it actually has an effect on the lipids to release them into the bloodstream and so you can actually burn them. So it doesn’t burn them on its own, you still have to do that part but it releases them into the bloodstream. So when combined with exercise, there’s been a bunch of studies on this. When combined with exercise, exercise plus red light therapy is way more effective for fat loss than just exercise alone, the same amount of exercise. So that’s pretty exciting.

Dr. Sharon Stills

That’s super cool, what about sex drive?

Eric James

Yeah, because it has the upregulation of the hormones, if you are depleted in one, which again, I would defer to you on how to get women balanced on this, but if low on one as a man or a woman on the sex hormones, it’s gonna help boost them and so that helps boost sex drive. Also, you feel more energetic, which certainly helps. And if you’re looking good, you feel like your skin looks good, your hair is thick all these things, that is definitely part of it. And then, to be menopause specific to in the private areas too, you can shine it in those areas. And so that’s gonna produce the more collagen and elastin and actually help those areas be healthier too. And so all of those lend to it.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So vaginal rejuvenation?

Eric James

Yes, exactly.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Well, we’re okay saying that word around here.

Eric James

Yeah, as a guy, I’m like, “How do I be respectful in describing.”

Dr. Sharon Stills

Get permission.

Eric James

We started out talking about my hemorrhoids so I guess we could say that.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Nothing off limits around here .

Eric James

But there have actually been studies specifically on that for menopause. So it’s one way to help that as the hormones are messing with tissues down there, red light therapy creates more blood flow. Yeah, and has the stimulative effect on the collagen and elastin, which is all what you want.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Yeah, so I’ll just throw in the doctor piece here because y’all know I love my bioidentical hormones. So I see red light therapy as this really beautiful tool to use with all the things we’re doing and sometimes, if you’re doing it and we’re monitoring your hormones and the red light, if you’re really overproducing, sometimes we can lower your doses a little. I don’t think it’s gonna be cause for getting rid of your hormones but it’s definitely this like, “Yeah, I’m all about the cherry on top.” And this is like, “This is a good cherry.” So yeah, I just think it’s such an important piece. As we’ve been talking about, health is made up in so many different factors and it’s a commitment to yourself and your journey. And I feel red light therapy, we’ve talked about the sauna. We’ve talked about PMF, we’ve talked about cold plunge. I feel like Castor oil packs. 

I feel like these things that we do are so equally important as well as the things we eat or the hormones we take or the sleep we get. It’s part of this whole gestalt. And so I believe we need to have these tools like red light therapy is part of our routine because the bang we get from them is, I mean, you can hear just listening to Eric. It’s like huge without any side effects. I mean, I’m all about making investments that are gonna support our health. And this is certainly an investment that supports our health on such a large scale. I mean, just energy alone, just something we can’t have healthy hormones. We can’t feel good if our mitochondria are not happy. And so if this did nothing else but just supported our mitochondria, I’d be like, “This is a home run.” But then you get all these other, vaginal rejuvenation and hemorrhoid reduction and hair growth. I mean, it’s just sometimes things are really are they’re just as good as they sound and this is certainly one of them. So what about for sleep? Because other big thing.

Eric James

Yeah, so it can definitely affect. It’s somewhat personal. So I’m gonna describe how you would kind of figure out how it works for you. So like for me, as an example, it gives it’s a stimulative effect on me. So I can’t do this before bed or I won’t sleep. Some people find that they can’t help but go to sleep after they do it. And it seems to be related to, if you’re really needing sleep and you do it late, it’s gonna help you go to sleep. And so it’s a personal kind of choice but in general, it’s such a bright light that having a bright light right before bed is a bad idea. So you wanna do it like three hours at least before bed. For most people, I think the best time to do it is in the morning where you’re setting your circadian rhythm.

Obviously, looking outside and seeing blue light is important, but just having that much light energy entering your body and looking at that bright of a light, I mean, it’s as bright as the sun, it’s just all in the red spectrum, that is a signal to your body to set your circadian rhythm as well. It also has an effect on the production and timing of the sleep hormone cycle. So as long as you’re doing this at the same time every day, you’re actually helping your body get into that positive cycle. And it does help you produce more melatonin for sleep and all day, like melatonin actually is important for a lot of other things too. But yeah, it tends to have a positive effect on sleep but to make sure you just try it, right? If you try it at night, try it in the morning, see which one is having a more positive effect and then stick to the routine to get your body in the rhythm.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Yeah, getting into your rhythm and your cycle is so important. So I’m kind of stuck on that. The study you were saying about how the red light therapy makes your exercise so much more beneficial and so much more effective and fat loss, but do you have… Are there other studies? Do you have a favorite study about red light? I’m just curious .

Eric James

Yeah, that’s a great question. Yeah, so for guys like muscle growth is usually like a bigger one. And so there’s been a lot of studies on Olympic athletes and stuff like that that are using this to improve recovery after exercise. So you can use it before to help burn more fat and then after, which essentially if you’re doing it every day, you’re doing it before and after because technically the day later you’re still healing from that exercise but it helps your muscle heal and be less sore from the exercise. So that’s an important one. I mean, let’s see, one thing we haven’t really talked about that is kind of profound about red light therapy is that it changes the macrophage phenotype from inflammatory to anti-inflammatory. 

So there’s been a lot of anecdotes from our customers as well as studies studying healing of old injuries, which is exciting to me ’cause it’s like these things that people have sort of given up on and not that it will work for sure if there’s something physically outta place than it might not be able to fix that. But if it’s a sense of getting your body to over that edge, it’s been trying to heal this thing forever and it’s given it that push to get over the edge. If there’s constant inflammation in the area, chronically, the body might not have been able to heal it. So the red light therapy not only energizes, creates more blood flow, boost the immune system but also temporary removes the inflammation there, so that all that that’s headed there can do its work. And so that’s something that’s pretty profound and interesting about red light therapy. And how many of the autoimmune disorders and health challenges in society are related to chronic inflammation.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Yeah, pretty much everything .

Eric James

So if you think about giving your body a reset every day to inflammation immune system reset, it’s pretty amazing. And so if we think of aging as the amount of stress accumulated in a day that we weren’t able to recover from during the night, if you’re able to give yourself a way to actually recover from all of that, I think it’s gonna be a big deal for basically anything that your body could then have a challenge with ’cause you’ve got that energy to fight it. You’ve got the inflammation temporarily down so that your body can get in there and do what it’s trying it to do.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Have you, or are there any studies on tracking inflammatory markers like fibrinogen or C-reactive protein or insulin or sed rate to see before and after? Has that ever been–

Eric James

I would love… I have a list of all the studies but like I said, there’s like 7,000. So I don’t know those markers specifically but I would love to send it to you and see I know there have been definitely studies done on the anti-inflammatory, basically the changing of the macrophage phenotype, is the big one that I’ve heard about. But it would be really interesting to see over time, how those markers change.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Yeah, I would imagine they would have to, but it would be interesting to see if it was actually specifically studied. And so I would also think just, as you’re going through the hormonal journey, often mood swings, depression, anxiety can start to show its head in your life if you’re not in balance. And so how would this play a role in that as well?

Eric James

Yeah, so there’s definitely been studies about using it to help with mood and depression, anxiety and things like that. A lot of these studies they’re finding there is a positive effect and trying to figure out why? But after all the things that we’ve talked about, you can guess, why it might be right? If your hormones are upregulated, you have more energy, all these kind of things, you’re feeling better, your body can do what it’s trying to do, it seems natural that that would go, but there seems to be something extra that’s happening in the brain that also is probably why it has positive, so far positive effects on Alzheimer’s and these kind of things and dementia and these memory loss pieces, is there’s something going on in the brain. So this is an active area of research but I can say there are studies that show that it does have a positive effect, but I can’t yet tell you why exactly it has that positive effect.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Gotcha, and what about we talk so much and it’s such an important piece to be aware of toxins and toxicity, does the red light play a part in helping you to detox?

Eric James

Yeah, the baseline is that if your body is already trying to detox of these things through the natural detoxification pathways. As long as you’re doing the things to support those, so like, like sauna is an example and you’re properly hydrated, I’m sure you have a lot of things that you teach women on how to actually get that detoxification to happen, red light therapy is gonna boost that. It’s just like you said, a cherry on top. So it’s not primarily a detoxification thing but it’s helping your lymph system, it’s helping your–

Dr. Sharon Stills

Talk about that, I’m a lymph lover. So I don’t think the lymph gets enough attention. So what is it doing for your lymph system?

Eric James

Well, it’s just helping what your body is already trying to do with the limb system. So again, it’s like giving it that extra boost of energy. So you’re still gonna need to move your lymph system somehow, right? But it’s anything that your immune system or your body is trying to do, it’s gonna give it that extra push.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So it’s like your little help or your little over here, little cheering squad, get that lymph flowing, get things moving ’cause yes, we can’t detox unless we have our , our eliminatory organs open and functioning and the lymph is one of the most important ones when it comes to that, along with obviously the colon and the kidneys and the lungs and the bile and the liver and the skin and so forth. So is there anything specific because digestive issues are so prevalent these days? So again, is it just the overall or is there anything specific it can help with, with digestion and the GI tract, your microbiome?

Eric James

Yeah, that’s a great question. It definitely, if you shine on your organs from the front or the back, you’re gonna be helping all those organs again, do what they’re trying to do. So someone whose organs are working perfectly, will not notice any difference but most people’s maybe aren’t or maybe have some toxins from the environment or from the food or something like that in there. So shining red light into your organs and getting the full body effect is absolutely gonna have a positive effect on what again, your body and those organs are already trying to do. I don’t know of any specific changes in microbiome, so I’m not sure there may be studies on that. I’m not sure if it helps good bacteria grow faster or something like that but yeah, definitely will help the organs do what they’re already trying to do, which is to digest and absorb the nutrients and get out what you don’t want and all that. So it’s gonna help that process regardless.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So I’m curious just about some of the practical, is that like the only panel you have or are there smaller ones and do you just stand there for 10 minutes or–

Eric James

Yeah, sure. So we have several different models. So this is the fifth one I think and then we have a sixth one coming that’s the bigger one of this. So this is our newest pulsing model, I mentioned the pulsing. So that’s having such a dramatic effect on these studies about brain health and all this that we are one of the first companies to add it. But it’s currently the cutting edge of the research. So this slight does the pulsing on the near infrared frequency or wave lights, I should say. So basically to turn it on, you just touch the power button and it defaults to 10 minutes. There’s a reflection here, so there you go. And then you can just quickly add or remove minutes to do whatever but 10 is like the natural default, 10 is how long the treatment would normally be. 

And if you do the near infrared, you can probably see that on the camera but I can’t see it. It’s invisible to the eye, but cameras can pick it up because it’s near infrared. It’s not something our eyes can on the camera, you can see the pulsing. But in your house, using this, you actually don’t see the pulsing. So it’s much more of a comfortable experience because it’s pulsing on your body and your brain without you being able to see it. So there’s three different settings for the amount of pulsing. So that’s 40 Hertz. So you probably can’t even see that on the camera ’cause it’s going so fast. I’ll turn on the red really quick. So that’s gonna be so bright that I can barely do this.

Dr. Sharon Stills

You look so cool . No wait, so there’s near infrared and there’s–

Eric James

And red, so 660 nanometers and then 850. And 850 is just outside of our visual spectrum. So we can’t see the near infrared but it’s actually just as bright as the red.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So are you doing 10 minutes of each or..?

Eric James

You would typically use both. And the reason there’s two switches on there is one, so you can change the frequency of the pulsing of the near infrared and also like say you wanted to do this and your significant other is in the room and doesn’t want… Like you’re watching TV or something like that and doesn’t want it to blow up the room with this red light. I mean, it’s very, very bright. Then you can just do the near infrared and do it for twice as long and it’ll have the same effect.

Dr. Sharon Stills

You get the same benefits from… If you’re just do the red light every day for 10 minutes, do you need to do the near infrared then or you’ve got it covered by just doing the red?

Eric James

You should do both. So this is all being studied but there might be slight differences in how the wavelengths are interacting with your skin and with your cells and your mitochondria. So the recommendation is 10 minutes and to use both.

Dr. Sharon Stills

So 10 minutes, so 20 minutes a day?

Eric James

You just have ’em both on at once.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Oh you can. Oh okay, now I got you.

Eric James

Yeah, sorry, . So yeah, so I can press the near infrared, turn that on, and then the red, now they’re both on.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Oh, okay, I gotcha. And so again, all the benefits we talked about.

Eric James

So bright. So yeah, so it’s pretty simple to use once you turn it on, you turn the red and the near infrared on, and then essentially you stand naked in front of it. A lot of people would do like naked yoga in the morning in front of it just to get some movement in their body too. And that way you’re kind of getting your whole body, if you just wanna stand in front of it and meditate or sit in front of meditate and then after five minutes or so you just switch so that you’re getting your back tissues and organs and everything. So it’s just a 10 minute treatment total. We do have in the manual and the app, some more specific treatment guidelines if you’re trying to treat like an injury and a muscle or you’re trying to do something else, then there’s like 10 minutes up close at six inches or if it’s just for skin, you do it from further away for longer, there’s things like that. So we provide a guide for all those things. But in general, if you’re doing it for overall health and wellness, it’s just 10 minutes away per day.

Dr. Sharon Stills

What about pets and children?

Eric James

Yeah, so they both run right to it. So my kid does like… I have to unplug it sometimes because they just always wanna turn it on. So like we’re trying to do something else besides just doing red light therapy. They turn on, they just love it. And they’re looking at it and everything. And pets seem to just kind of curl up in front of it. They naturally are attracted to it and it feels good to them and we definitely have had a lot of emails from clients who have tried to use it for their animals who are healing from something with very positive results. And in horses specifically, there’s an entire field of red, near infrared light therapy devices that are just veterinary for horses. Horses, if they have a serious injury, a lot of times it can be life threatening to horses. So red light therapy is one of the tools they used to heal their ankles and their knees and things like that to a great effect. So yeah, kiddos and animals love it. Obviously, be smart about it. Like obviously kids don’t know to not stare directly at it for hours and hours on end or something like that. But yeah, otherwise there’s not too much risk to it.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Well, I’m a fan and I can’t wait to plug in my machine.

Eric James

Yeah.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Is there anything we didn’t… I mean, I feel like we just covered, how could you not want one? Is there anything that you wanna share that I didn’t ask that we didn’t cover?

Eric James

Man, I think we… Let me look at my notes really quick to see if we talked about all the different things. Yeah, I think we covered pretty much everything. So we are doing a limited time offer during just for the summit. So if you enter menopause 22 as a coupon code, that will get you $25 off. If you are interested in picking up one of our units, this is the unit I would suggest because it has the pulsing, which is gonna be important for that mental fog that you were talking about and those type of things. So the RedRush Pulse 400 is this one and that’s what I recommend.

Dr. Sharon Stills

Well, thank you. That’s very kind of you, and I appreciate that for the listeners because for those who feel called to it and wanna put more red in the red, hot, sexy menopause, we appreciate the discount. So I just adore the therapy. I think as a physician, I prescribe it, I love it myself and it’s just something that I think putting in as part of your daily routine can only give you benefit. So thank you. Thank you for being a force of red in the world and putting out good units and helping to, like you said, in the beginning, you wanted to do something that makes a difference and is of service to people. And this certainly falls under that umbrella. So I appreciate you. Thank you for your support of the summit and for being red.

Eric James

You got it. Thank you so much having me here and it’s been really fun.

Dr. Sharon Stills

You are so welcome. Okay everyone, it’s time to get red hot sexy. We’ll see you soon.