Reduce Cancer Risk by Enhancing Immune Response

Aj Lanigan

Nathan, thank you. I’m alive, awake alert and enthusiastic. And we’re going to get people into the tall weeds just a little bit today, We’ll tie a lifeline to them though incase they trip over some of those vines. 

Nathan Crane

Sometimes we gotta get through the weeds to get to the good stuff, right? So… 

Aj Lanigan

That’s true.

Nathan Crane

But we’re going to dive in, right to kind of the core of this topic. So maybe we can start talking about, what is the immune? So maybe you can talk a little bit about the immune response itself and its relationship to cancer. And, how does the immune system actually keep cancer at bay? 

Aj Lanigan

The easiest way that I’ve been able to explain to people is, the immune system generally speaking, is a group of organs, tissues, cells and also chemicals that are designed to protect all the other tissues and organs in our body. Now, if we think in terms of vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids, amino acids, good water, good air. All of those things are necessary to build healthy bone and tissue, but healthy bone and tissue can’t protect themselves. We need the immune system there to make sure that they remain safe because just living here on this planet, we’ve got more bugs in us on us and around us, than we have actual body cells. I’ve heard in some of your presentations just talking about the gut and probiotics and so forth. So the GMA is just a minuscule amount compared to all the things that are out there. 

Now, the beautiful thing about the immune system. And we’ll talk a little bit today about certain cells, for example, macrophages or macrophages, depending on which side of the Atlantic you were educated. This one, immune cell contains more knowledge than all the libraries that have ever been or now or ever will be. So when you look at how does the immune system deal with cancer, you are born with an array that is able to deal with everything from the time you breathe your first breath. And so what differentiates cancer let’s say from a splinter, if you get a splinter in your toe, or a virus or bacteria, we’re battling COVID right now, which is no big deal. We’ve been battling viruses, they’ve got dull jawbones that, 5,000 years old with rabies, there. 

And so whether it’s the Wu Han virus or COVID two or SARS or MERS or the Japanese this or the Spanish that, our immune system don’t care what you name it. Nathan, I do tell you though, going forward anytime you see a news piece that actually gives a formal name to a virus don’t just say H two in five or H one and one, look out is gon be a bad one. If they name it a name, cause like when I go to Japan, anything that goes South they call it the Chinese virus, if I’m in Taiwan, is the Japanese virus. And there’s an interesting story about how we called it the Spanish flu it didn’t have anything to do with the Spanish flu, it’s just, everybody kinda kept it a secret until the Spanish broke the secret. So but without getting to far sidelines, your immune system, and I’m gonna talk a lot today about the immune response. Everybody I’m assuming that is watching this has got an immune system.

Nathan Crane

We wouldn’t be breathing here, we wouldn’t be breathing watching this if we didn’t have one. 

Aj Lanigan

What we want to do is shift people’s mindset. How well is my immune system going to respond to challenges from the outside, challenges to the inside? And again, now looking at cancer in particular, so again cancer doesn’t invade us, we don’t inhale it. The sun can cause skin cancers and so forth, but things happen, again on us and around us, that makes the cells start firing off sideways, and all of a sudden they are not normal anymore. And our immune system has within its vast array, certain cells, natural killer cells for example, they draw down the line and say, “Smiley face, smiley face, smiley face, wait a minute, this cell don’t have a smiley face.” Bada bing, bada boom, blows it up. It doesn’t care if it’s cancer. It only cares that it’s not normal healthy cell tissue. It could have been harboring herpes. It could have been harboring, some sort of other bad thing or it could have been a cell that’s just tired about ready to die. An immune response that’s working properly, will never let cancer get its foothold. You see it. So I like to tell people if you’ve got cancer, your immune system has failed you. So that’s kind of the broad stroke. 

Nathan Crane

It’s a great way to look at it. You were talking about macrophages and that’s just one of the immune responses. We have T cells we have B cells we have so many different aspects of the immune system. Maybe you can clarify on that a little bit more about what are… people think immune system, they’re not quite sure exactly what comprises that, which organs, which aspects in the body that actually make up the immune system. And what are the most important aspects about the immune system? Maybe you can expand on that a little bit. And, I do wanna add there, you said, we are surrounded by and filled with, all kinds of bugs, more bugs cells than we have human cells. That’s true for bacteria, that’s true for viruses, we have more viral cells and bacterial cells in our bodies than actual human cells in our bodies. So the fact that, bacterias and viruses are something that are foreign to us is an asinine statement. They’re not foreign to us, we are surrounded by them 24/7. 

The reason it becomes scary for people is if your immune system, and this is true for cancer as well, our bodies make cancer. We don’t get cancer from outside Like you said, but bacteria and viruses they do come from outside if you will. But the immune system works the same on both. Just a different response, in terms of works the same that if you have a strong immune system, it’s functioning it’s doing what it’s supposed to do, it’s gonna get rid of cancer cells the way it’s designed to, and it’s going to combat and get rid of bacterial viral cells that would normally make you sick. And that’s why, unfortunately in the media today with this virus that’s happening, they have for some weird reason, convinced us that being asymptomatic is a bad thing. Asymptomatic really means your immune system is doing what it’s supposed to be doing, right? 

Aj Lanigan

We believe that that’s definitely a baseline we’d like to maintain. 

Nathan Crane

Yeah. 

Aj Lanigan

If I don’t feel sick, hey, there’s been long distance runners who supposedly in good shape, they go out and they run their morning mile and then 30 minutes later they drop dead. Sometimes that happens. But the…. let me, I’m gonna to pretend I’m in a large group, we’re in a large group, and I want everybody to hold up their arms. Cause I’m gonna talk about two arms of the immune system. 

Nathan Crane

Yeah. 

Aj Lanigan

One of the arms is what we call the innate. The innate immune system, that’s the immune system that we are born with. The other mean system is what we call the acquired immune system. I sometimes refer to it as the immune system that learns. Let’s start with the innate immune system . Within that group, you’ve got your macrophages, your natural killer cells, your neutrophils. And then you’ve got some cells that kind of work back and forth between the innate and the acquired immune system. Now, what’s the basic difference between the two. Your innate immune system responds very quickly. Certainly within minutes, maybe an hour, to quickly confront, and this is, I think a line in the sand. If it’s not me, if it’s not self, and it’s not a healthy self or me, then the innate immune system is where we start to surveil, identify, attack, and eliminate those four things. Surveil, identify, attack, and eliminate that which is not self and is not healthy. 

That would include cancer cells. Now, sometimes the immune system is a little groggy is a little late to get up in the morning. Maybe we had a four day drunk. Maybe we just went through a bad divorce, maybe a lot of things, a bad sunburn It’d be maybe a lifestyle in general. Again not eating the good foods, embracing the bad foods. So many things. And by the way, I encourage people eat the good foods stay away from the bad. Breathe the good air, drink the good water, get plenty of rest, deal with stress, say your prayers, cover every base. But, and this is one again that you can think about. If you do all of those Nathan and you don’t brush and floss, what happens to your teeth and gums? You’re in trouble, right? Even though you do all of those good things, you have to do something extra to keep healthy teeth and gums. You have to floss and you have to brush. 

Have that same mindset about your immune system and maintaining and supporting a good immune response, you have to do something a little extra, all those other things, I’m gonna take for granted that you’re gonna try to do. You should, ’cause that’s what your mom and your grandmama told you what to do, and what to stay away from. But grandmama didn’t know what we know today because immunology, unlike things like basic chemistry, biology and physics and so forth, is a relatively new science. 40 or 50 years ago we did not have a clue about certain chemicals and the relationship of say antibodies to B cells and so forth. So being able not only to know what the cells are, but what they do, but also have to communicate, how they are nipotent. If we wanna use that term. Omniscient. If I get a splatter, the immune cells up here in my right ear know it. And it didn’t need a cell phone. Thank God. That’s the brilliance of our immune system. 

Nathan Crane

Yeah. 

Aj Lanigan

We’ve got certain immune cells that communicate with nerve cells, certain nerve ganglion that go out and just kind of stop in space. There are receptors. So, all of our systems are great systems, communicate with another and your immune system just part of it. But, generally that innate immune system, it starts now it starts off with a ferocious roar, gobbles it up, beats down and eliminates. But then also those macrophages those neutrophils think of them like Pac-Man or your younger listeners will have to go Google what Pac-Man is. But it gobbles up, and they’re kind of sloppy eaters. So they leave around little bits of pieces and fragments, and we have a cell that comes up called a dendritic cell. Got these long spider like tentacles. And it grabs these little particles and rugs over to these other cells in the acquired immune system. By the way if the lymph system meets up in the lymph nodes, and that’s where they first hook up with our T cells. Now, I’ll talk about T cells particularly T for us. A thinking cell, four star general. 

They don’t so much get into the fight with guns and knives. They do the thinking, they do the directing. So here comes this then dendritic cell presenting to these T cells. Now not every T cell is interested in the information. So that cell maybe half to cover a lot of ground. That’s why it’s good for you to be moving around. You want your immune system to enjoy a lot of movement of that fluid and so forth because you don’t want that dendritic cell having to fight the tad. So when it presents to the right T cell, that T cells is going to say, “Wait a minute, we gotta have a plan.” And then now that T cell we’re over here with the acquired this is where the learning starts, starts developing information, feeding it now to our B cells, our B lymphocytes and together then they say, “All right, we’re gonna start releasing these proteins. These fork head sticks, called antibodies.” Now specifically these are IGG or Immunoglobulins. IGG one bullet, one target. 

Now let me back away from that for a minute, because we have other antibodies that are naturally produced and they’re more nonspecific, there IGMs and an IGAs, you’ll find the RGA in the snipe. You’ll find it in the mucus, of the gut of the vagina of the nose and so any place you’ve got mucus. If your immune system and the immune response is working well, then you’re gonna have sufficient IGA, and then IGMs it just a big like a five, it’s a huge, huge pantry. It’s got like five fork head sticks on it, and it likes to stick to stuff and it don’t care what it sticks to. If you got plenty of those hanging around Nathan, again between your innate immune system, and those non-specific antibodies, you’re gonna arrest virtually all of the things that get through and you’ll never know the difference. But something that gets through, the immune system is gonna start to learn a specific attack system, where those IGGs those immunoglobulins one bullet, one target, for example herpes one, herpes two, chicken pox, varicella zoster, HHV six otherwise known as Roseola, a big happy family, all known as herpes. 

Once you get it, got it forever. Now I had chicken pox when I was young, my father had the shingles that’s when chicken pops comes back to get you. But it’s also again, when your immune system fails you. Because that virus is forever gonna hide out inside either nerve tissue or with VZV inside the ganglion, and when the immune system fades in its abilities, that’s when up jumps the devil up jumps that those shingles. And so the immune system is very clever. It gets out of the gate, bada bing, bada, boom. And then that response tends to step aside and then learned immunity tends to come in behind in a very specialized way and gives us long-term immunity. Let’s get back to the COVID for example. 

We’ve had SARS we’ve had MERS, well-established those are forms of Corona viruses. So one look like this, the other one look like that and the other one looks like this. They’re all CORONA viruses. In fact, there are dozens and dozens of Corona viruses out there that we’ve seen a lot more than that in the animals. We’ve got the bird flu, we’ve got the pig flu, we’ve got the bat flu all these different things. Immune system doesn’t care. The immune system don’t even care if anybody’s seen it or understands what it is. If it’s working properly, it will surveil, identify attack and eliminate it. But you’ve got to have the immune function working at its very best for you to have your very best immune response. 

Nathan Crane

Thank you for that deeper understanding of how the immune system works. It’s the same thing with cancer. And you already said this early on if you have a fully functioning immune response your immune systems working, how it’s supposed to no matter what your age is, you’re not gonna have a cancer diagnosis. Yes, we’ll have cancer cells, but we’re not going to have cancer cell proliferation to the extent that it takes over and goes beyond the immune system’s capacity, because the immune system’s job is to eliminate these abnormal cells. And so throughout this entire series, we talk a lot. We have a lot of great experts talking on. One what you can do to enhance your immune system, what you can do to eliminate the things that are inhibiting the immune system and getting rid of the things that are causing your immune system to be weakened and adding in all different kinds of solutions and methodologies, supplements and nutrition and diet and exercise and lifestyle to help you have a fully functioning strong immune system. 

But what I wanted to talk with you today about AJ was this vast knowledge and research and experience you have specifically beta glucans, because I know it’s been a huge focus of yours, and maybe you could talk a little bit about, what our beta glucans, why are they important? How do they affect the immune system? Where do they come from? Why should we know about them, when wanting to have a stronger more fully functioning immune system? 

Aj Lanigan

The medical research on glucans goes back literally to the forties. You have a bunch of scientists that are standing around if you could imagine. And of course in all the movies, you see some scientists screen URICA, as real scientists don’t do that. They’re standing around, looking at something and they look over and they say, “Come over here look at this, this looks a little different.” That’s how real science is done. Conducting your work, observing, conducting your work observing. And then when something that you’ve never seen before occurs, that’s a new discovery. You’ve got to repeat it over and over and over again, you put it before your peers, they follow the same procedure that you followed, over and over and over again. And we’re not talking about the gas station over there, the guy down the road, we’re talking about people that are just as smart as you or smarter, scattered all around the world, not just as much as you do maybe more, and they’ll try to pick it apart, and if they can’t pick it apart, it’s published. 

Nathan Crane

That’s what we call peer reviewed science. 

Aj Lanigan

Exactly right. As opposed to little Johnny showed up, Johnny was sick, Johnny drank the soup or grandmama’s chicken or whatever and now Johnny’s better. Nothing wrong, happy that Johnny is better now. But can you line up the next hundred people, and do better than say 33 and a third percent? Because about a third of the people, I could stand in front of a thousand people, give a presentation, give them a placebo, and one third of them will get better. And I’m just, selling them saw dust, and then they’ll begat, they’ll begat, they’ll begat, because I got 333 testimonials. Again, nothing wrong with testimonials. I love testimonials. I get them all the time. But if you’re years into a process and all you’ve got is testimonials, I would say you need to look a little harder get some other peers in there and look to repeatability. 

So that you could get up into that 50 plus 60 plus percent. See if I come up with a pill or a potion, and I go into some hospital and say, look, I’m going to cure 65%. I’m gonna cure two out of three people you line up in front of me. Brother, that is the Holy grail. That is the one all be all stop all. Sometimes people get lucky. Sometimes you’ve got divine intervention. I mean I’ve seen all kinds of circumstances over the last 20, 25 years that I’ve been doing this work where people get better. What I had to do with my ingredient the beta glucan compound, which is what you see it out there now, the glucan 300 is the brand. But what we’ve done, is we’ve taken it outside of our group and in our people that would give us grand testimonials, and we’ve put it in the hands of well-known universities and teaching hospitals here and around the world. 

So when you get up and I get up in the morning, there are now thousands of classically trained medical doctors, PhDs, people that are a lot smarter than me, working with this product and demonstrating its safety and its benefits. Not just in cancer, but in infectious disease and things like allergies, the aging process. Again, all of those things that fall under the umbrella of the immune system. Those are the things that when the beta glucan goes in, it activates these cells that we’ve been talking about, that have a receptor. Now, what kind of automobile do you drive Nathan? 

Nathan Crane

Right now, just a little old four door truck. 

Aj Lanigan

I got a little four door truck too then. Mine’s a Silverado. Probably, now, if you’ve got a Silverado, I’m still betting, my key won’t crank your truck up. 

Nathan Crane

Probably not probably not. 

Aj Lanigan

Probably not. 

Nathan Crane

It’s not even the same family of trucks, so if it were it probably still wouldn’t work. 

Aj Lanigan

So think of that key switch though as this receptor that’s on the surface of these immune cells, think of our glucan molecule as a key that fits precisely in that receptor, and when it cranks it up, it turns the Woody Allen immune cells into Schwarzenegger cells. Now the younger folks again, you gonna have to go look up Woody Allen. When I started this years ago, people said, you Woody Allen and Arnold Schwarzenegger are gonna Sue you. I’m sure gotten back to them. I don’t mean to hurt Woody’s feelings, but hey, if you’ve ever seen him, what I’m talking about. And I think Arnie would laugh. But the gist over the years the ingredient, and this is very important as far as the safety issue, because there’s plenty of things out there, you’ve got echinacea, you’ve got a stragglers, you got all kind of herbals and compounds that will stimulate the immune system. But you don’t want the immune system running off like a freight train on fire, going over a cliff. You want to activate the immune system, so that the immune system self regulates, because those four things that, again, surveil, identify, attack and eliminate, you don’t want an immune system that’s fired up all the time, because that’s gonna create non-stop inflammation. 

Think of the immune system as an army. The primary function of an army, is to kill stuff and blow stuff up. And that’s what you want your immune system be doing in the face of cancer. That’s what you want it to do in the face of COVID. That’s what you wanted to do in the face of some sort of a bacteria or fungal infection or parasite. But once that job is done you want the immune system to go back to a state of rest, but yet a state of readiness. Now I played a little bit of football when I was young. And if you can imagine in American football I have to differentiate today. If the offensive line comes up and they’re just kind of standing there, big old boys, big old boys, and the ball is snapped, what’s happening to those big old boys that are just standing there? 

Nathan Crane

They’re getting knocked down. They’re getting knocked down. 

Aj Lanigan

They’re gonna get their clocks cleaned. Their plow’s gonna get cleaned as well. The immune system, just like those big linemen, have to be there in a randi state. And basically that’s what we’re doing with our molecule not to get into too much chemistry and whatnot because again, if I’m shooting up here, I’m gonna miss this important part here. I wanna hit you between the eyes with this. You want an immune system doing what it’s supposed to do more better and faster. Let me say that one more time. You want an immune system and its response doing what it’s supposed to do, but more better and faster. And that’s kind of the short story on what our ingredient does, is there’s no quantity of it that you could take and it hurts you. The window of safety is so huge it would be hard to describe, probably safer than the water that some people drink. But in the use of it, whether it’s a child or a teenager is not going to interfere with chemo. If somebody likes to go that route, it’s not going to interfere with radiation. 

I bring those up because that’s very common. Surgery, no, there’s no conflict at all. In fact, a lot of the medical literature in a research on glucans talks about it being used as an Agilent very successful Agilent to chemo and radiation. Now, I’ve been in this long enough. Thank the Lord, I have lived long enough that they are now is emerging a field known as immunotherapy. And immunotherapy again, is the concept of us taking our own immune system, and getting that immune system to turn it’s incredible, it’s incredible knowledge and ability to protect us and direct it whether it’s HER2 positive breast cancer, colon cancer, nasal pharyngeal cancer, whatever the cancers. And gosh, there’s so many, so many, so many mutations, so many… And again, if we’re doing it the right way, we’re getting the immune system again doing what it’s supposed to do. Finding those cancer cells those cells that are errant cells cells that let’s just say, they’re firing sideways. 

They maybe haven’t become cancer yet. And we’re gonna stop it in their tracks so that you never have to be troubled by having to consider chemo, radiation, surgery, immunotherapy all these different things. I’m a big believer after so many years. I’m kinda diving in to the Niagara falls and trying to swim against the current. And some of those gray hair, is I’ve learned we’ve gotta start early. Nathan, we gotta get our children. We hear about flattening out the curve when it comes to cancer and a lot of other things, we got to get ahead of the curve. So, I’ve actually developed a material, its easy to find baby kids, that actually helps the younger kids get their immune systems again doing what it’s supposed to do safely, but doing it more better and faster. 

Nathan Crane

That’s exactly what we want. Especially when wanting to prevent or do our best to reverse cancer. And, you said something a little bit ago that really sticks out to me is that, you want your immune system working efficiently when it’s needed and then to kind of relax a little bit when it’s not needed. And that’s the problem with people dealing with autoimmune disease, right? 

Aj Lanigan

Yes. 

Nathan Crane

And a lot of people who have cancer and autoimmune disease or don’t even realize they have a form of autoimmune disease and cancer, or a persistent never ending, viral or bacterial or fungal or mold infection. Because when that infection doesn’t go away, your immune system is constantly trying to get rid of it and that process alone creates chronic inflammation. As you said, it is that in that chronic inflammation we know scientifically causes cancer. So it is a matter of getting your immune system as you said, working better and faster, more efficiently, more effectively, so that it’s not just constantly on 24/7, creating more inflammation. And that’s a lot of the things we talk about in this series but with beta glucans specifically, maybe as we we’ve got just a couple more minutes here. What source do they come from? So people understand them a little better. And what else do people need to know about beta glucans when considering adding them as a supplement to… 

Aj Lanigan

Again, the research on glucans goes back decades down. We’re talking again in this country, in the forties, in the Asian area of the world, mushrooms have been in their medicine basket for thousands of years. And so you’ll hear about mushrooms as an ultimately about actually 25, almost 30 years ago now. Glucans were approved as a drug for cancer some 30 years ago. When I first started, there was a material called PSK Kreston only available as a prescription, widely available in Japan, in Korea and Australia that region of the world. In this area of the world, we look at baker’s yeast. Now what do these two have in common? Both of those are fungal forms. Fungal forms generally are rich in a complex carbohydrate called glucan. That’s exactly what the molecule is. Now not a simple sugar, not like glucose or sucrose, but a long chain complex carbohydrate, that actually goes to give these fungal forms shape. If you go into the plant world, the reason trees and other plants stand up is not because of proteins and lipids, is because of the complex carbohydrates known as cellulose, you see it. So carbohydrates are essential in virtually all of our living things. Other types of carbohydrates, every time you have a shrimp you gotta peel it. 

The exoskeleton of that shrimp is made up primarily of Chitin, C-H-I-T-I-N. The exoskeleton of other insects, roaches and so forth, again, a complex carbohydrate. Our human bodies can’t digest it. So what we have to do is we have to purify the material, and we use a baker’s yeast. Why do we use? I could use mushroom, I could use certain seaweed, I could use certain pond scum, euglena. I mean, there’s a lot of things that have glucans in them. But what we’ve done is we figured out, the molecule that is the most complex and causes the highest biological activity when we dose it, is the material that we use from a baker’s yeast. And we use a proprietary yeast so that we are consistent, when we get rid of the fats, we get rid of the proteins making our material almost a pure carbohydrate that’s extraordinarily high in the glucan. A little bit of chitin, a little bit of glycogen, a little bit of other smaller molecules but the bulk of it is the glucan. And once that goes into the gut, we know all the farmer dynamics, kinetics, and so forth. We’ve got some great videos. Somebody can go to vita with immunity. That’s V-I-T-A, vita is Latin for life. So vitawithimmunity.com. 

We’ve got some great videos on how it goes into the system how it activates the cells. But that’s the overview of how we make it, and then what it does when it goes into body. Could I use PSK Krestin? Yes I could. A daily dose, use it once a month, and run you somewhere around at 900 to $1,800 a month. A little pricey. Again, you’d have to have the prescription, and in testing it side by side, not me, but in some of these major universities, and by the way, this is published in the medical journals I used to have the side comparison, naming my ingredient by name, versus PSK versus many other not only glucans, but other vitamins, minerals, other stuff, six to eight times the dose. So you’d end up spending thousands of dollars to get a fraction of the immune response. And so we’ve been very, smart in the way that we’ve chosen our source. And then of course, our process is a process that’s very painstaking, but that assures you… Imagine if you were a person that required insulin, and you pulled your… down to the second line or third line, your insulin but you really didn’t know how much of active insulin you were getting from dose to dose, you see it. 

So in the world of the food supplements, nutritionals and so forth, if it’s close whatever, some people just take up baker’s yeast and grind it up, throw it in it so we got lucky. Unfortunately, that’s what I have to contend with in the industry. But it’s extraordinarily important if you’re going to get the immune response, is you get our material, which again is the highest purity has the highest potency, the most biological activity. And that way you’re not spending thousands of dollars. You looking at on a retail basis, probably around 70, 80. Even if you’re a real big guy. ‘Cause it is those by weight probably less than a hundred dollars a month. So a little bit better than the Japanese so. 

Nathan Crane

Little bit more affordable, for sure. But since it comes from… 

Aj Lanigan

Well, most of my friends will just have to do without. 

Nathan Crane

Yeah. Since it comes from a yeast source do people have to worry about by the time it enters the body is that yeast… I’m guessing it yeast is not active in the dose at all. Is that right or?

Aj Lanigan

Actually that’s number four on our FAQ. There’s only 13 questions in the world and I got them all written down on the FAQ with the answers. Great question. We get it quite often, as you can imagine. What people have difficulty with, is the lab yeast, of course, the yeast infections, but what we’re doing is we’re taking yeast and not only are we killing it, but we removing the proteins and those are the things that are pro-inflammatory. It is the protein portion that the immune system of that person who’s sensitive or allergic to it, they see that protein and that immune system says… and creates all that inflammation. The lipids, they are not that so important. Those will start to get smelly after a while because of the oxidation of any limit, try to get you some old Cod liver oil. Like I had to take teaspoons full, when I was a kid, they didn’t have nice, essential fatty acids that were palatable. You had to hold. But getting rid of those fats and proteins is the cornerstone of our process. So that when you take the product we can make sure you get exactly the dosage you’re supposed to get based upon your body weight. 

The bigger the person, the higher the dose. A child, three, four years old, don’t take much, you got a little dog that weighs a couple of pounds, he might can take a dose once every two or three days. So, even a shrimp, a shrimp has a single immune cell called a hemocyte. Guess what it is, it’s a type of macrophage. And it responds to our material. We set it down to the people in Hilton Head that have a big Marine, the big Marine had a science center there that your tax dollars pay for, to do a lot of their work, trying to keep shrimp from dying from certain viral infections that wipe out entire populations. There are other big name companies which they get angry if I told you because they won’t be able to create the bigger secret. So when you buy your dog food or you buy other things that you buy with our ingredient in it, they don’t tell them that it were you. But it’s important though that when you do choose, not just this ingredient but other things that you’re absolutely are sure of your source. If you’ve got something that’s coming from China, it’s crap shit. 

But let me tell you something. I don’t mind the Chinese people, but their government and understand that everything over there is owned by the government. So be careful and you may be getting more heavy metals and other chemicals when you’ve got ingredients that are shipped in here, albeit cheap, albeit inexpensive. My mom was born in 1916, and if she ever talked about a woman wearing a cheap dress, she was not being complimentary of that woman’s ability to buy it at a good price. So you don’t want to… you are never rich enough, Nathan, to be able to buy cheap, when it comes to things like things for your health, your wellbeing.

Nathan Crane

Exactly. Now, it’s so well said. We talk so much about, saving money and not spending on organic and these things are expensive and supplements and I get it. But at the end of the day, when it comes to your health, it’s the same thing I say. It’s like, there’s no amount of money that you can de-value your own health based on money because medical bills and sickness and pain, and losing quality of life for years and years, there’s no amount of money that can make up for that. And so when it does come to quality it is so important. I’m glad you said that. What’s the best website for people to go to, to learn more about the product. 

Aj Lanigan

I’ll tell you. I can’t think of anybody any better equipped, not only to acquire the product, but I would love to talk to you endosium. I’d love to talk to all your listeners, but I’m just one old man. And I just got my first grandson, and so… 

Nathan Crane

That’s amazing. 

Aj Lanigan

He’s gonna have a good bit of my time Well, thank you. We going down to the house of the mouse this week and give him his first exposure to COVID and everything else that’s out there. We’re gonna challenge his immune system like nobody’s it. If I could get him, into the Atlanta airport, I’d see if I could get him to lick the escalator. on the way up man, but no it’s just… But we’re excited. 

Nathan Crane

Nah, I know you’re kidding but it’s… 

Aj Lanigan

But betterwayhealth.com that team down there is incredible. They’re very knowledgeable, their website again, you frequently asked questions and so forth, but you pick up the phone and you’re gonna get somebody that knows what they’re talking about. Every once in a while, you’ll be able to maybe stop them, and they have the ability to chase me down. But they are well-versed on that 12 or 13 frequently asked questions and every variation and they answers. So I would say that that would be. The product is out there in the health food stores, but a lot of different companies sometimes they put my name on the bottle, sometimes they don’t, but for your viewers I think they’re probably E savvy. So we would have them go to better way health down in Georgia. 

Nathan Crane

Sounds good. AJ thank you so much. I appreciate the conversation, the good candor, the good lesson on the immune system. And I know we could talk for hours and I’d love to stay in touch and do some more follow up. 

Aj Lanigan

Thanks it would be my pleasure. 

Nathan Crane

I just love how you take something so complex and make it so simple for people to understand. So thank you. Thank you for doing this. Appreciate your time and look forward to staying in touch. 

Aj Lanigan

I’ll stay safe. 

Nathan Crane 

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