Delve Into The Advanced Techniques Of Gerson Therapy

Patrick Vickers, DO

Yes. Thanks for having me again. It is always an honor to talk about Dr. Gerson.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

For all of you out there, Dr. Patrick Vickers is the Director and Founder of the Advanced Gerson Therapy Clinic in Rosarito, Mexico, the world’s premiere clinic for the natural treatment of cancer and advanced diseases, specializing in Advanced Gerson therapy. At the age of 11, after witnessing a miraculous recovery from a chiropractic adjustment, Dr. Vickers’ passion for natural medicine was born. Born and raised outside of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Dr. Vickers obtained undergraduate degrees and pre-med from the University of Wisconsin, Madison, Life University, and Marietta, Georgia, before going on to receive his Doctorate in Chiropractic from New York Chiropractic College in Seneca Falls, New York In 1997. While a student at NYCC, Dr. Vickers befriended Charlotte Gerson, the last living daughter of Dr. Max Gerson, M.D., Nobel Prize Laureate, and Dr. Albert Schweitzer, called Dr. Gerson, “The most eminent genius in medical history,” as Dr. Gerson reversed a vast majority of the degenerative diseases, including terminal cancer.

Upon graduation, Dr. Vickers went on to study directly under Charlotte Gerson, which included studying Dr. Gerson’s handwritten files of all his active patients between 1910 to 1959. 15 years ago, recognizing a desperate need to preserve Dr. Gerson’s legacy and the progression of his therapy, Dr. Vickers opened up his Gerson Clinic in Rosarito, Mexico, which has rapidly become one of the premier clinics in the world for the treatment of advanced disease. Since its inception, Dr. Vickers and his clinic have been chronicled in the epic documentary, The Truth About Cancer: A Global Quest, and his patients, chronicled in the movie, The Beautiful Truth. Currently, Dr. Vickers is in the process of opening Asia’s first Gerson Clinic with Secretary of State Cambodia Sean Ngu. Well, that is exciting. That is cool news. in Asia!

Patrick Vickers, DO

Yes, we are. It was set to open somewhere near the time the pandemic hit, and then the pandemic hit, and it just shut down everything. Cambodia has just started to reopen over the last 6 to 12 months. Hopefully, in the next 6 to 12 months, we will have that up and running at some point.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

That is cool. What made you fall in love with Gerson? To me also, what a treasure to see all his handwritten files and just to plow through them, all the knowledge and all the people that he worked on, worked with, and all the understanding he came about. What a treasure.

Patrick Vickers, DO

It is the greatest experience of my life to be able to set my hands on those files. Not only that, there were two archive boxes—folder boxes full of handwritten letters from Albert Schweitzer to Dr. Gerson. Over 30 years of Schweitzer doing his work in the Congo, leading up to his Nobel Laureate Prize, winning the Nobel Peace Prize, so, yes, my love was before that. I was a year away from graduating from chiropractic school, which I wanted to be since I was 11 years old, and a woman named Charlotte Gerson came and spoke at my school for the weekend a year before I was ready to graduate. When she opened her mouth, I said, That is what I’m going to do. I fell in love with it immediately. I love chiropractic.

Chiropractic is amazing. But that was the higher calling for me. There were 350 people in that auditorium that night, that weekend. Nobody’s taking it on, and I took it on after she spoke. It just must have been for me, as Dr. Gerson’s story and his therapy. It is incredible! Eight movies have chronicled his work. Nobel Prize winner Schweitzer called him the greatest genius in medical history. He has been dead for 64 years now. His therapy is untouchable as it relates to its ability and consistency to reverse advanced cancer. With that said, it is getting harder and harder to reverse advanced cancer, even with Dr. Gerson’s therapy. So we have to get more creative and start adding other adjuncts to lectures, which were left behind in 1959.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

What drove Dr. Gerson to initiate it, what gave birth to this therapy, and what was going on in his life?

Patrick Vickers, DO

Yes. Dr. Gerson, when he was in medical school, was around 1900 when he entered medical school. He was suffering from severe migraine headaches. Now, this is at a time when this is in Germany, and this is at a time when Germany led medical research. If you wanted a superior medical education, you went to Germany at that time; similar to that, now you would go to the United States for a superior medical education. Well, back then, it was Germany. So he had all the top professors available to him to help him with his severe migraines. They could not do anything for him. They had no idea how to help him. He set out to help himself, and he cured himself of his severe migraine headaches. That is what ultimately birthed Gerson’s therapy. He graduates from college and is practicing in Bielefeld, Germany, and he starts using his migraine diet on his patients when one comes back to him completely cured of their skin tuberculosis. Now, this is at a time when tuberculosis was killing a million people in Europe.

So he started treating tuberculosis with this migraine diet, and he is curing virtually every single one of his tuberculosis patients. When a renowned thoracic surgeon named Ferdinand Sauerbruch, heard that Dr. Gerson was reversing advanced tuberculosis because Sauerbruch was doing surgery on all these people with TB and, well, he listened to this guy Gerson’s curing tuberculosis, he embarked on a study with Dr. Gerson on 460 TB patients. He said to Dr. Gerson privately, If you can cure one of these patients, I will believe every single word you have to say. Gerson cured 450 out of the 460 TB patients. It was shocking. So he has been treating tuberculosis. 

When Hitler came to power, he was driven out of Germany because he was a German Jew. Then, once Hitler invaded France, that is where he had originally fled to France. When Hitler invaded France, Gerson fled to Manhattan and set up practice on Park Avenue in Manhattan. It was there that he was discovered to be able to reverse advanced cancer because a woman had come to him with cancer of the bile, duct, stomach, and liver—all three. She begged him for his tuberculosis treatment, and he refused because, even back then, in 1930 something, he understood the political consequences in the United States and the professional results of treating cancer and degenerative diseases with nutrition.

So he refused to treat her. Well, she begged him for weeks until he finally agreed to treat her in secret. He treated her in secret, and he completely reversed her advanced cancer. Up until that point, he had no idea he could have such an impact on cancer. When he was able to reverse her cancer, he said, I can no longer hide my face from this deadly scourge of cancer. He dedicated the rest of his life to treating advanced disease and cancer patients, and to the dismay of losing his membership at the New York State Medical Society, he became the most censored and ostracized doctor in the history of American medicine. So that is essentially the five-minute history of Dr. Gerson’s rise to his ability and his recognition for being able to reverse advanced cancer. 

Here we are now, nearly a hundred years after he discovered that he could cure advanced cancer, and there is still no cure for cancer, even though in 1946, he was called to testify before the United States Senate for the Pepper Neely Anti-Cancer Bill for three days, July 1st to July 3rd, 1946. He testified before the United States Senate. Senator Claude Pepper himself said Dr. Gerson dedicated his life to the mastery of this scour of cancer, and all should honor his great work. The American and world public never heard that testimony because he would have brought down everything the cancer industry and the medical industry stood for at that point and all the industries that were causing cancer because he was exposing those in those meetings, and they are the same hands that feed the politicians for their campaigns and their salaries. Dr. Gerson became a marked man til the day he died.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

I want to go back to you later on, talking about what this diet was and what was significant about it compared to all the other diets. But before that, during his lifespan, how many years did he implement this cancer diet or, for his cancer, the Gerson therapy? For how long? What was the track record? Were there any records in regards to how well they did with the cancer patients coming?

Patrick Vickers, DO

In terms of years, again, he did not discover that he could cure cancer until roughly the early thirties. Then he died in 1959. It must have been roughly 25 years. He was treating cancer more or less specifically. In terms of cure rates and things like that. It is quite difficult to come up with cure rates. Why? You cannot control the subjects. The clinics will come or the patients will come to the clinic for, back then, 4 to 6 weeks; now it is 2 to 3 weeks. Then they have to go home and continue therapy for two years. You cannot control the patients. You do not know if they are eating cookies, cake, and ice cream or if they are doing Gerson therapy. But, when Gerson was alive, it was said that if someone had advanced cancer, he was getting a roughly 50% cure rate, which is just outrageous. 

Today, if you can get a 10 to 20% cure rate for terminally advanced cancer, that is phenomenal. But back when he was alive, it was said that he could cure up to 50%.  Today, that is not the case. Today, just using Dr. Gerson’s basic therapy that he left behind if we are getting 25 to 30% now in terminal cases, that would probably be quite a generous number. But one of the big problems today compared to when Dr. Gerson was alive was compliance.

We live in such an immediate gratification society today. To get people to radically change their lifestyles and do the diet that is necessary to reverse their disease today, is so difficult compared to when Dr. Gerson was alive. It is a completely different generation. The discipline, their ability, the community support that they had back then, the will to live—it is just a completely different monster that we are dealing with today. But, Dr. Gerson, when he was alive, that is what that was. What was said was that he was right around 50% if someone came to him with advanced cancer.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

Yes, that is pretty spectacular, considering the statistics with traditional medical oncology, which are pretty abysmal. It remains abysmal. That is quite phenomenal. I would assume also that the stressors that we are dealing with now compared to during the time of Dr. Gerson are quite a bit more, and I would say advanced because there are so many more layers that have been added. I would assume that one has to account for a lot of that in addition to just the therapy itself.

Patrick Vickers, DO

Yes. When I am teaching or lecturing people, I always say that every generation that has been born since Dr. Gerson’s death is constitutionally weaker than the generation before it. Just given the fact that all the chemicals now within our environment, stress factors in our environment, relationships, and community support have just compounded the problems that we have today, not just income in preventing cancer but certainly even in reversing it. When Gerson was alive, he never had to deal with chemo. Chemo came on the scene in 1959, and he died in 1977. He never had to deal with it. Just dealing with a pretreated chemotherapy patient. But compared to when Gerson was treating, people even have to deal with that. 

Now, you compound the fact that how many drugs have come out since Dr. Gerson’s, Dr. Gerson’s, death? We are up against a wall. then you throw in EMF radiation now. forget it. Which, they say, prevents oxygen from binding the hemoglobin and is the whole secret to the Gerson therapy. Curing people means being able to oxygenate cells properly to convert food and energy. You take PEMF radiation now, along with all these other factors. I do not know where your stance is biblically and stuff, but we are getting close to the end, and in my personal opinion, it just cannot go any further.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

No. It seems that we are reaching that breakage point where, yes, humanity has a hard time sustaining itself, and it will just keep breaking down until, yes, we become an extinct species.

Patrick Vickers, DO

That is where we are. That truly is where we are, right? I don’t know what your stance is on the pandemic, but if it is truly being controlled by the elite and this is being instituted, you can understand why. They are seeing the writing on the wall, too. We are in a predicament, and we are at a fork in the road. It shows up in my clinic as well. The ability to successfully reverse disease is now based on all these factors: compliance and the constitutionality of the human body. It is something else compared to when Dr. Gerson was alive.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

Yes.  I agree with you, and with regards to the last number of years, there has been a shift in how cancer behaves, with the COVID and the COVID shot, and all of that. We are having to figure out how to adjust to what becomes the next evolution in a way I am trying to understand.

Patrick Vickers, DO

Yes.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

Tell me a little bit about you. You have the basic Gerson therapy that you are mentioning, and then you have had it based upon the changes in lifestyle, compliance, and so forth. You have had to shift that into more of an advanced Gerson therapy. But yes, please tell me a little bit about what the basic Gerson therapy looked like and what some of the main components were.

Patrick Vickers, DO

Yes.  If you read Dr. Gerson’s book he published before he died, there was one word over and over again that he mentions, and that one word was the crux of everything he tried to address in the therapy. That word is metabolism. He mentions it religiously. We hear a lot of talk about how these are metabolic diseases. Well, Gerson was talking about metabolic disease back in 1920. He understood this instinctively back in 1920.

Everything he knew about curing disease was the restoration of proper metabolism. We were taught that cancer and a lot of these diseases are breakdowns of metabolism. The crux of Gerson therapy is to try to properly restore metabolism because everything we do, from the day we are born to the day we get sick, destroys metabolism in the various stages of metabolism in the human body. Let us just break that down quickly. What is metabolism? It is the breakdown of food into energy. So if metabolism is what is being destroyed that is ultimately causing disease, you have got to restore that very principle—the breakdown of food into energy. 

Well, where does the breakdown of food begin? It begins in the gut. Is it any wonder that we are taught in natural medicine that 70% of your immune system is in the gut? Once you heal the gut, you are now able to properly assimilate the nutrients, and you are probably able to absorb them into the bloodstream. Now you have got to get those nutrients and those sugars into the cells to be properly converted into energy. That is where we destroy the second stage of metabolism. At the cell membrane, you are at the level of the cell. You have a cell membrane. That cell membrane is made up of what? It is made up of fats. What kind of fats? Well, whatever fats you are feeding it, the body will naturally use to maintain the cell membrane. Well, to convert food into energy, what do you need? You need oxygen. You have to be able to get oxygen into the cells to convert food into energy. Well, that is the cell membrane is the gatekeeper. It determines what can go in, what cannot go in, what has to come out, and what cannot go out. That is all determined at the level of the cell membrane based on the fat content. 

What fat is everyone eating today? They’re all eating saturated fats. What are fats saturated with? Fats are defined based on their saturation with hydrogen. Today we are just eating cookies, cake, ice cream, meat, eggs, cheese, whatever, just loaded with saturated fat and highly saturated with hydrogen. This is significant to understand because this is biochemistry 101. What I am talking about now, I learned in the first two weeks of biochemistry 101 at chiropractic school that to get oxygen into the cell, it has to be accepted. The charge has to be accepted. But the problem is that when you have a cell membrane that is made up of saturated fats, because that is what your diet is made up of, as that oxygen approaches the cell, the charge cannot accept it. It repels oxygen away from the cell. You have heard how alkalinity promotes health and acidity promotes disease. 

We hear that all the time, but it is never explained. What are the health implications of those two terms? Well, what are we talking about when we are talking about alkalinity and acidity? We are talking about PH. Well, what is potential hydrogen? When we have a buildup of hydrogen in the diet, particularly in the high-saturated-fat diets that we have today. We have a buildup of hydrogen that changes the charge at the level of the cell membrane. You cannot get oxygen; you cannot properly oxygenate cells and tissues in the body. The true definition of acidity is improper utilization of oxygen. In Gerson therapy, there is absolutely no saturated fat, and you are bombarded with raw flax oil. Why? Because raw flax oil is a pure, unsaturated fat. When you use that to go and restore the cell membrane, it completely changes the charge again at the level of the cell membrane.

Not only does it change the charge, but flax oil, because of its unsaturated nature, literally acts as a magnet to draw oxygen into the cell, whereas saturated fat repels it away. That is how Gerson restored the second stage of metabolism at the level of the cell membrane. It is not just about oxygen; it is about the proper assimilation of nutrients and detoxifying. You cannot do that if the fats at the level of the cell membrane are not appropriate. The saturated fat content of today’s diet is destroying all of those aspects of human metabolism, detoxification, and assimilation of nutrients. We have healed the gut; we have restored the fats at the level of the cell membrane. There’s one more aspect that Gerson had to address to restore proper metabolism. Inside that cell, you have little things called mitochondria. It is the mitochondria that convert sugar into energy in the presence of oxygen. 

Well, there is something we have done over the last, I don’t know, hundreds of years, probably, but certainly over the last hundred years, that has destroyed the internal integrity of the cell so that the mitochondria cannot efficiently convert food and sugar into energy. What is that? Salt. Salt has destroyed our ability to convert food into energy. Why? Today, all of our cells and our diets are so high in sodium from all the cooked, boxed, canned, and bottled foods that we eat today that are so loaded with sodium. Take soy sauce. They say two or three teaspoons of soy sauce are 20 times your daily recommended allowance of sodium. But that is just one thing. We are just reversing what the human body was created to consume daily. We are potassium animals, and you get your potassium from raw fruits and vegetables. 

Today, nobody eats the raw fruits and vegetables they need to eat to maintain optimal health. They are eating all these high-sodium-based diets. What is happening today is that salt and water are accumulating in the cells, and the mitochondria cannot function efficiently in that environment. Dr. Gerson had to recently eliminate any added sodium from the diet because all the fruits and vegetables contain natural sodium, which is perfect for optimal human health, and so on The Gerson Therapy is a no-sodium diet, and your body is bombarded with potassium, not just in the fruits and vegetables but also in a special potassium compound powder that gets added to each juice that Dr. Gerson gave on his therapy. Why do you need that extra potassium? Because the only way you can get salt and water out of the cells is by ingesting potassium. It is a law in the human body. You eat sodium and your body dumps potassium. You eat potassium, and the body dumps sodium. The only way you can get that trapped salt and water out of the cells to restore the internal integrity of metabolism is by bombarding the body with potassium. This is the three-pronged approach. Heal the gut, heal the cell membrane, and then you have to heal the internal integrity of the cell membrane by getting salt and water out and getting back to the gut. There’s only one way to heal the gut. It is food. It is that simple. You can take probiotics. They’re great.

They’re going to be a great adjunct to a proper dietary regimen to heal the gut. Gerson instinctively understood that the only thing that is going to heal the gut is food. So the patients get 20 pounds of organic fruits and vegetables every single day, mostly in the form of juices every hour on the hour from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m., freshly pressed, and drunk immediately to get the maximum amount of nutrients and enzymes in that juice. If you let that juice sit, it is going to die within a half hour to an hour because of its exposure to air, light, and heat. Drinking those juices fresh, pressed straight off the juicer, is one of the main components of Gerson therapy. But they are getting 20 pounds of organic fruits and vegetables every single day. They are getting probiotics. We have taken it a step further. 

We are now adding pure, unadulterated aloe vera, not off the store shelf, which has been loaded with preservatives, has been colorized, and has been deodorized. It is pure, unadulterated aloe vera harvested in the Dominican Republic and sent to us frozen. It goes into our patients’ juices every hour on the hour. There is not a more potent healer of the epithelial lining than pure aloe vera. So we are doing that as well, and raw spirulina goes into the juices as well. This is how this is: this is the crux of Dr. Gerson’s therapy, a very specific detoxification protocol, the coffee enemas, and the dietary protocol of 20 pounds of organic fruits and vegetables every single day. Today, nothing short of that is going to be able to reverse advanced cancer on any kind of consistent scale.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

To me, 20 pounds of nutrients that you get into your system with that is just tremendous. That is just incredible. You are just hyper-flooding the body with nutrients that it needs to recover and rebound, turn on healthy cellular function, and neutralize a lot of the acidic waste you were talking about in PH. Yes, it is. All of this will be very alkaline, so it will shift that hydrogen-oxygen balance quite a bit.

Patrick Vickers, DO

Absolutely. It is, and this is what makes the Gerson therapy so successful. People say, What is the secret to the therapy? Why is it so successful? What’s the secret? There is no secret. The reason it is so successful is because it is the most difficult. You cannot prescribe a drug that is going to cure cancer. No chemotherapy and no IVs are going to cure an advanced cancer. They can serve as incredible adjuncts to a regimen and that is where the power and all these other things we are doing—all those other things as well, hyperbaric oxygen near-infrared with chlorophyll—we are doing all of these things. But those things in and of themselves without a strict, intensive dietary regime are going to minimize your chance of being cured of the most advanced stages of cancer. So this is how it is done.

This is why eight movies have chronicled Dr. Gerson’s work. If you want to see what it is capable of, watch the film, The Beautiful Truth. The movie: The Beautiful Truth has a woman who comes in during the movie The Gerson Miracle. She was there being filmed in the movie The Gerson Miracle, which won best film at the 2004 Beverly Hills Film Festival. Then, in 2008, The Beautiful Truth was made. She comes in with terminal ovarian cancer and less than six months to live. You should see her in 2008. I get chills just talking about it because the transformation is shocking. She is unrecognizable, and she goes from six months or less to live to an absolute model of health, at the end of two years of Gerson therapy. They showed her four years later, and she just continues to do maintenance therapy. It is an incredible, shocking transformation. If you want to see what this therapy is capable of, The Beautiful Truth is the movie to watch because it shows her side by side from 2004 to 2008. That is the fruit of flooding the body with this pure nutrition.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

What I also know is that in Gerson therapy, the thyroid plays a big role as well. Talk to me a little bit about that.

Patrick Vickers, DO

The thyroid.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

Thyroid.

Patrick Vickers, DO

Yes, exactly. What did we say? The crux of Gerson therapy is the restoration of metabolism. What is metabolism? We said it was a breakdown of food into energy. Inside your cell. You have these little things called mitochondria. Those mitochondria are responsible for converting sugar into energy. Well, it is the thyroid gland that is specifically responsible for reproducing mitochondria, which is the most vital organ as it relates to mitochondria production. So today we have destroyed our thyroid glands for various reasons, but most notably three things: chloride, fluoride, and bromine. What is salt? Salt is sodium chloride. What makes the thyroid gland utterly dependent on iodine? Well, the chloride molecule in salt displaces iodine from the thyroid gland.

That’s why, when they came out with table salt before it was iodized, people started walking around looking for turkeys because they were getting goiter. So they had to iodize it so that you did not walk around looking like a turkey if you consumed it; it is still destroying the thyroid gland on a subclinical level. This is another reason why there is no sodium in the Gerson therapy because the chloride molecule and sodium chloride destroy the thyroid gland. Now people say, Well, I don’t need table salt. It is good salt. Well, there is no such thing as good salt. There’s such a thing as better salt, but not good salt. Table salts are 99.9% sodium chloride. Your Celtic salt, Himalayan salt, and dead sea salt are 86 to 87% sodium chloride. If you are consuming too much of that, you are going to have harmful effects on the thyroid gland over time. It is that simple. In Gerson therapy, there is no sodium to protect the thyroid gland. We also just absolutely flooded, especially the first three months with Lugol solution, which is potassium iodide. It is a nontoxic form of iodine, so it is vital to the restoration of human metabolism. They say you can take in our patients. Do they get 18 drops of Lugol solution a day for the first six weeks, and then they go down to 12 drops or nine drops a day, then down to six drops?

They say that you can take 18 drops a day for three months in this day and age, and it will take three months to reach your saturation point. That is how much we depleted our thyroid gland of iodine. Now, that is salt. We need to talk about fluoride. Fluoride also displaces iodine from the thyroid gland. Well, we know where fluoride comes from. It comes from a lot of our drugs. It is coming from our water. It is coming from people’s toothpaste. That is destroying the thyroid gland. Let us talk about bromine. Bromine is also destroying the thyroid gland. Where are people getting bromine from today? They even know where they get it from bread; today, all your breads are conditioned with bromine. They used to be conditioned with iodine, but now they are conditioned with bromine. 

That is why you can go into a health food store. If you go into a health food store and go to the bread section, you will see bread made from unbrominated flour. So all of these things have destroyed the thyroid gland, which is vital to reversing an advanced disease. The way we restore it is by getting all the causative agents, destroying the thyroid gland, bromine, and fluoride in the salt, restoring it with a lugol solution, and restoring the iodine content of the thyroid gland. We give a natural thyroid glandular derived from the bovine right, which stimulates the thyroid gland. Those are the factors. Those are the things that we factored in for the restoration of the thyroid gland and selenium. We have added a selenium supplement because the soils around the planet today are depleted of selenium, which is vital for proper thyroid function. Then, let’s face it, 20 pounds of organic fruits and vegetables will flood the thyroid with all the nutrients it needs to restore itself and begin to function properly again.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

Another component you mention is coffee enemas, I know I put my patients on coffee enemas, and they get upset when I say, You got to do one coffee enema a day, and I know Gerson therapy is slightly more than that.

Patrick Vickers, DO

Exactly. Gerson made the coffee enemas famous. Your chances of reversing such advanced cancer without the coffee enema are between slim to none. Because you have to think about the patients coming in from five or six decades of a toxic lifestyle, first of all. You have to detoxify the body from that. They are probably coming in from chemotherapy or a lot of drugs that they have been on. You have to detox fine from that. Now you are bombarding the body with 20 pounds of organic fruits and vegetables every single day, pulling massive amounts of toxicity out of cells. It is stored in the cells. You have to flush those toxins out. The other thing that is going on is that these tumors are creating massive amounts of endotoxin. They have biological processes that produce massive amounts of toxins. You have to get those toxins out. Now, as you are breaking down these tumors and destroying them, that is producing massive amounts of toxicity. Gerson found very early on that his patients would go into liver coma if he did not apply the coffee enemas to the protocol. The patients are getting five coffee enemas every single day. Now, under Gerson, when Gerson was alive, that might be for three months. Today, we are recommending the full 13 juices and five enemas per day for a minimum of six months. The longer you can do it, the better. I have had people do it for literally two years, and they are still alive today to tell the story. This is advanced terminal cancer.

They did the full protocol for two years: 13 juices and five enemas a day. Anybody out there on the Internet, the American Medical Association, or the American Cancer Society, telling you that coffee enemas are dangerous, they can kill you. That is a lie. I have done one coffee enema or more per day since the day I met Charlotte Gerson. Charlotte Gerson did one or two coffee enemas a day from the day she turned 33 years old. Our patients can take up to five coffee enemas a day. I have seen people do it for two years, and I know people are still doing 2 to 3 a day after their two years, and they are alive and well. Coffee enemas have never killed one human being, and so they are a potent way, the most potent way to detoxify the human body and it is science. It is not just voodoo folk medicine. It is science. 

Your liver produces an enzyme. It is called glutathione transferase. Glutathione transferase is one of the most potent detoxifying enzymes in the human body. Well, the liver uses palmitic acid to create glutathione transferase. The properly roasted organic coffee is taken rectally. Not when you drink it, because you destroy the palmitic acid. By the time it gets to the liver, it is burned up in the digestive process. But when you take it rectally, it goes straight to the liver. It has been scientifically demonstrated by a guy named Peter Lechner that when you do one coffee enema, the production of glutathione transferase by the body goes up 6 to 700% greater than normal.

There is no more potent way to detoxify the human body. Imagine doing that five times a day and how rapidly you can clear toxicity out of the body. That is why Gerson therapy is so effective in a myriad of things—not just cancer, but its ability to cure a heavy addict of drugs, alcohol, and smoking. Why? Because what are the withdrawal symptoms? They are the body that dumps massive amounts of toxins at any given time. You put someone who is an addict on five coffee enemas per day, and you give them 13 juices a day to stop their cravings. What are they ultimately craving from their addiction? Energy? I’m telling you what it can do for addictions because of the coffee enemas and the juicing protocol: it keeps people in and out of rehab, which is what the standard response to rehab today is: people are just in and out. You put someone on Gerson therapy, and they are not in and out of rehab. They are completely cured of their addictions. This is just one aspect of what therapy can do, apart from cancer. However, the detoxification protocol of the coffee enema is superior.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

Well, I would assume also arthritis and any inflammatory condition, will then pull all of the acidic ways out of the joints and then bring in nutritive minerals to restore repair and reduce inflammation. I would assume any, in muscles and fibromyalgia, and whatever you may call it, I assume that this would be fantastic for that as well.

Patrick Vickers, DO

Fibromyalgia. Which is just a name they put on something that they did not know what the heck it was, but they put some big words on it to make it look like they knew what it was and called it fibromyalgia. Fibromyalgia, as you said, is what it is. There is so much inflammation in the body, causing massive amounts of pain. You give us someone with fibromyalgia, and within a month, they come in with pain. On a pain scale of 1 to 10, when they come in, they will mark 11 or 12. You put them on therapy for one month, and they are down to one or zero. That is because of the rapid decrease and elimination of inflammation and getting rid of toxicity, which is affecting nerve endings like substance P. Yes, all of these things are readily treated with Gerson therapy. Unfortunately, the eight movies that have been done on our work are all about terminal cancer. That’s all they are done with. They don’t go into all the other things that we can reverse. Take Albert Schweitzer. Eight years before Schweitzer won the Nobel Peace Prize, he had severely advanced diabetes.

Gerson cured him in six weeks. That’s standard. Now that you give us someone with advanced diabetes within six weeks, we have them off all their medications—someone who is scheduled for triple or quadruple bypass surgery in four weeks, is canceling their surgery. Someone who has been on blood pressure medication for 20 years. Within four weeks, we had them off their medications. It is ridiculous. You can see why Dr. Gerson was a marked man. Just those things, I mentioned how many billions, if not trillions, of those are worth around the world today.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

One thing that I know a lot of people are concerned about is that, when you are dealing with cancer, there is also the issue of weight and maintaining weight. What happens here? You have a person who is staying away from a lot of things that would be considered to put weight on an individual. What happens through the process of the Gerson therapy with the weight and for people that are concerned?

Patrick Vickers, DO

Yes, I get that question all the time. Where am I going to get my protein on this diet? How am I going to lose weight? How am I going to rebuild mass on this diet? I don’t have meat. I don’t have eggs, and I don’t have cheese. I don’t have these things that I have been told reproduce and build muscle mass. Well, the simple answer is, where does a horse or a cow get their protein from? How do they maintain that muscle mass without eating meat, eggs, or cheese? People say, well, they do drink milk. Oh, yes, up until they are too. How do they maintain it for the next 20 years?  This therapy is loaded with protein. Potatoes. Potatoes are carbs. No, they are not. They are loaded with protein. Carrots are loaded with protein. Where does the horse or cow get their protein from? Greens. Greens are so loaded with protein. Spirulina is loaded with bioavailable protein, meat, cheese, and eggs. Those are inferior forms of protein for building proper muscle mass. In this therapy, if you are losing weight or need to gain weight, what is going to happen for the first 3 to 6 months? You could potentially lose more weight.

You’re going to lose 5 to 10 pounds just in assault and water weight. I mentioned earlier. That is going to happen immediately. I talk about one lady who did the therapy. She was so skinny when she started the treatment. In the first three months, she got even skinnier, to the point where she would have to drive her kids around to school and do piano lessons or whatever for two to three hours a day. She had to buy a donut cone to sit on because she had lost all the mass of her rear end at that point. Well, after 3 to 6 months on this therapy, and now that you have restored metabolism and the body’s ability to properly assimilate and utilize nutrients, you start to put mass on. So at the six-month mark, that is typically when you start to put on mass rapidly. So if you would have seen her when she was sick, just look at the lady in The Beautiful Truth. That’s the same example of the woman I’m talking about now. It is a remarkable transformation. You are entirely kickass; there is no mass whatsoever. They’ve lost all their body mass, and now they are perfect models of health.

I don’t lift weights. I don’t do anything other than a mile-and-a-half to two-mile jog every day. My muscle mass is very solid and toned, and it is because of the diet that I follow in conjunction with the Gerson principles. I lived with Charlotte Gerson at 78 years old. I’m a chiropractor at 78 years old. When I was living with her, I would treat her at her home. She had the muscles of a horse. At the age of 78. It is remarkable what this therapy does. It is a faulty nutritional science that you have to build. You have to build muscle mass with animal products. It simply is not true. The best form of muscle mass is produced on an all-plant-based diet.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

So we talked a bit about the basic Gerson therapy, but then we took a step further and about what is going on in the world now compared to when Dr. Gerson was alive. What are some of the things that have been brought in, and why?

Patrick Vickers, DO

Yes. Again, it is all based on metabolism. That’s what we are trying to achieve. Today, people’s guts are so deranged. We need to focus our attention. There is the gut, because, as we said, 70% of the immune system is in the gut. The only way you are going to ultimately heal the gut is through food. But you have to take it even further today, we believe. We bombard the body with high-quality probiotics; that is just standard. Today, we have destroyed our natural flora for a variety of reasons, whether it is antibiotics, poor diet, stress, or whatever. We give loading doses of a high-quality probiotic, and we also give a high-loading dose of Saccharomyces boulardii, which is often overlooked even by natural practitioners as y vital component of the natural gut flora.

Our patients are getting high-quality probiotics. They’re getting Saccharomyces boulardii; as I mentioned, we have now added aloe, pure, unadulterated aloe vera, and pure raw spirulina, not the powdered organic spirulina that people are accustomed to using, and the studies on that and its power in helping people heal from some of their conditions go to the ceiling, as the science does. That’s using the powdered organic form. Well, we are using raw, unadulterated spirulina grown in Vero Beach, Florida, by Tim White at rawlivingspirulina.com. It was shipped to us today in cold packaging. We get it. We have two weeks to use it before it breaks down, and that is going into the juices as well. If you put that spirulina under a microscope, you can see them swimming around, whereas if you put dried organic spirulina under a microscope, you just see dead spirulina. This is why when you taste or smell freeze-dried or dehydrated spirulina, it smells and tastes horrible. Why? Well, because it is dead bacteria. But even in that form, it is still powerful, believe it or not. Well, our spirulina almost smells like yogurt because it is still alive. It is still alive. It does not have that pungent smell as it starts to break down; it gets that way a little bit.

But when you use it in the first 7 to 10 days after receiving it, it is a powerful medicine. This is one thing that we have done to restore the gut right now to oxygenate cells. Remember, we have to oxygenate cells. We are doing that with the therapy by restoring the cellular membrane, colonizing the body, getting hydrogen, destroying the electrical charges within the body, and restoring the proper charges. We have now prepared the body for optimum oxygen utilization. What do you do? You bombard the body with oxygen. We have hyperbaric oxygen. We have got the Beamer mat, which they say oxygenates tissues 30% more than a chamber. If you ever see the science behind the videos behind that, you can understand why, increasing the cell membrane and the circumference of the cell membrane, so oxygen can be utilized more efficiently. We are doing I.V. ultraviolet blood irradiation with ozone. Oxygens O2, and Ozone O3: We are doing oxygen, and that way. We are giving rectal ozone, another component of our advanced protocol. As you well know, the science is coming out now. The book is called The Medicine of Light by a guy by the name of Nathaniel Mead. What is coming out now when you bombard the body with chlorophyll and hit it with near-infrared light, specifically, it can kill cancer cells.

They say, “It is almost chemotherapy, so we are doing near-infrared light with massive amounts of chlorophyll. These are the things that we are doing to compound what Dr. Gerson left behind. We are only doing it at our clinic for 4 to 6 weeks when people are there; excuse me, 2 to 3 weeks. We encourage our patients to do these things by going home to enhance their responses. Yes, as even Dr. Gerson said in his book before he died. There is going to come a point where my basic therapy is not going to get the results that it once did because he is looking into the future. He was seeing the writing on the wall, even at his death. and he was right. We have to make these additions. We have increased the enzyme content of the body. One of the very popular protocols today is high proteolytic enzyme content in the supplement regimen. We are arguing that massive amounts of high-proteolytic enzymes, go towards breaking down the biofilm that cancer cells can wrap around themselves, making them undetectable to the immune system. The high enzyme content of the juices and the high proteolytic enzyme content will help to break down those biofilms and help to break down cancer cells and tumor tissues as well. We are doing that as well. We have added a myriad of things to what Dr. Gibson left us back in 1959.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

Well, it is cool that you picked up the baton, are carrying this legacy forward, and are adding therapies to it. Yes. Understanding the thought patterns behind it and the foundation of the therapy were then based upon the stressors that we are dealing with nowadays and bringing in more tools so we can try to stay ahead of the diseases versus falling so far behind that we have a hard time catching up. Thank you so much for doing this, and thank you so much for chatting with me today.

Patrick Vickers, DO

Yes, thanks, Dr. Karlfeldt, for what you are doing, which is great, and thank you for taking the initiative to do something like this, because I do not have that vision, and for someone like you to be able to allow me to share it, I am very grateful.

Michael Karlfeldt, ND, PhD

Thank you so much.