Ep 595: Money, Nervous System Regulation & Financial Healing with Brenda St. Louis

Introduction to Money and Health 0:00

Welcome to the Health Fix Podcast, where health junkies get their weekly fix of tips, tools, and techniques to have limitless energy, sharp minds, fit physiques, or life. Hey, health junkies, on this episode of the Health Fix Podcast, I'm bringing on my pal, Brenda St. Louis. Now, she is an accredited financial counselor, a financial therapist, certified money coach, trauma of money facilitator, and has completed the training as a FCP through BCIT. I might have to ask her what those letters all mean.

Nevertheless, she's been in the game for a while with over 25 years of experience in business of her own. And she lives in Vancouver, British Columbia, such a gorgeous place. Now today we're going to be diving into money and health. We're gonna talk about cortisol effect on your money thoughts and the money brain and some of our decisions we sometimes make when we are in stress mode. Were gonna to talk her archetypes of money, and then were gonna dive into what you can do right now, one little thing to notice how money is affecting you.

Now you may be thinking, I'm good with money. I don't have any issues. Or you maybe thinking like that is a hot topic. I'm learning, I am learning. And from the programming I received from family members, let's say it's a lot of clawing back out and figuring out how I can rewire my mind around money. So today we're going to be talking about just really things that might crack you open a little bit when it comes to money and the possibility of what if everyone could be financially secure? What if?

And what can we do if we all had We could use that for good in this world, selective good. And that, of course, is my MO here, just to have everybody really thinking about how could you feel good, in your own body, but how can you help those around you vibrate on a higher level. So I'm going to think about, so let's introduce you to Brenda St. Louis. Brenda St. Louis, welcome to the Health Fix Podcast. Hi, Janine. It's so good to be here. Thanks for having me. Well, I love to do podcasts like this where I meet someone at a conference and I'm all lit up about what you do.

And of course, you know, we're on the same wavelength with business and health and all the things. So of, course I am like, yes, please come on and hang out with me, so I' m so excited that you can be her today and we can chat a little bit about health & money. Love that. The minute I met you, it was like some synchronicity happened. And I was, like, I want to know this person, and I would love to collaborate with you. I had no idea what you did, but I knew that we needed to connect, so I'm so glad to be here.

Me too, me too. Of course, for all of my Pacific Northwest folks, guess where she's at? One of her most wonderful places, Victoria, British Columbia.

Brenda's Money Story and Money Mindset 3:08

So, of course. Well, yes, we have to knew each other because I am going to come visit you someday. Any time and I'm on the water and it's beautiful and sunny here. So I love it. I Love it So folks might be thinking like all right, so money health like doc Why do you keep bringing this stuff up? and of course we kind of had this conversation about stress and how many of us live in stress land because of finances and How that really impacts cortisol and have that fires up the brain. So, of course, folks, I always start off with like, how did you end up here working on the money?

And of, course my question is, did, you have a little bit of an inflamed brain situation that came from cortisol that led you to this route? Or what happened? Give us a scoop. Well, it's a bit of a convoluted story and it is not the typical story of, I struggled with money and now I want to not have people struggle with the money. There is truth to that, but I was one of those people that had a really good ability to make a lot of money, and I had really a good opportunity to spend a whole lot money!

And I, was a facilitator internationally for a personal development organization and They paid me a lot of money to take my courses and almost every person that came into the course had to go into debt to be in the Course and it was all about change and transformation. And it just felt like there was this real disconnect with money. and consciousness or health or expansion. And I felt like there's something up with this. So I always had that feeling in my brain, and I was the same thing. I went into debt, like $40,000, I'd come out of debt and then I go into that again.

It was like I had no relationship with money. And so if you talk about health and what my nervous system was doing, I was the hardworking hustle, hustle hustle. It was like scarcity was, like, the motivator to hustle and when I had money, it was yeah, this is good. This is cool. So it always this up and down roller coaster income and I, had an awareness come to me that my work in the world is to help people have a deeper understanding with money. And it happened in clown school, actually. Interesting.

I know that's a much longer story, but it was like clowns school was really about getting really connected to how to present and connect with the audience so that our hearts were connected. And I was realizing in clown school that the love and connection is missing in money and that my life's work is here to actually create more love in connection with money as a conduit for us to connect with each other, the planet, our communities, or bodies. And, I've been a somatic therapist, a massage therapist a craniosacral therapist.

My body was my jam for so long and now it's money in body. Yeah, oh my goodness, you know, I think about what you mentioned, like easy to make it, easy come easy go, right? And I thing for a lot of people, that comes from watching parents, or watching like, even watching TV as a kid. And you, know I grew up in the era of like 90210, and they're all like driving fancy. cars and all this stuff. And I grew up in the middle of Illinois. Northern Illinois, southern border of Wisconsin, right? Like middle, I was trying to say middle to Midwest.

Not too far from where you grew, up over the lake over there into Canada. So it was very middle class, but yet you're watching people driving these fancy cars, these girls getting these heels, and these cool outfits. You're like, well I should have that. I want that! And as soon as you get paid and you got a real job, you are the first thing you do and I don't know about you, What are we going to buy today? So it's an interesting phenomenon, huh? I know, and that kind of fires so many things in your brain that feel so good when you do that, right?

And it is that roller coaster thing of like, oh my God, I want this new outfit. I wanted this shirt. It feels good for a short period of time, but it s not related to money. s related t having something. I often say to people, so do you want to make a lot of money or do want you to have a little money? It's a loaded question. It is. And what do most people say? I want a have lot money but they don't operate that way. So we can see what we want but our nervous system, the way we react, we make decisions and everything doesn't always match that.

I was also middle class. My dad worked for General Motors on the pension. Everyone had the same amount of money. We didn't really struggle, but we weren't opulent. Like we didn' have a lot of luxury either. And I grew up in like the, just across from Detroit in Windsor. So everyone worked in the auto industry, right? So, everyone was similar, the stain, But everyone had a good car. Hey, hey, you know, that reliable car, because they probably got some discount, probably the family or company discount.

Yeah, for sure. For sure It makes sense though. It make sense. And, you know, we look at this and this is definitely someplace I'd like to go to because I think a lot of people, I mean, it's not like in kindergarten, We were taught really to do anything with money other than maybe, You know we played games that had paper money like Monopoly and those things, but it never was in a realistic sense and, at one point I saw that, the dad, The rich dad poor dad guy robber, Yeah, Kiyosaki. There we go.

Had a game about money, you know, to teach kids. And I look back and I go, my parents really did actually try to teacher me with the checkbook and do all these things. I was like, that is too hard. For me, I'm not going to do it. I have to put numbers. So it was a numbers thing for me. It wasn't that I cared so much. You know, like I worried about my money per se, you know? You got to watch your words of how you say things. At that time I was worried. But I also was like not to be bothered with numbers I hate math.

Money equals math Do you find that for folks? I think that is the back door that people jump out of because money really doesn't have anything to do with math, really. No. It has everything to with emotion, right? And how we're relating, it's a very relational energy. But we don't treat it like that. We treat like math. Like one plus one equals two, but really not. If you put your money in the right place, one-plus-one could equal 10. Like you know what I mean? So it's not, it is very emotional.

It's complicated. There are a lot of different pieces to it and you can't be taught by people that haven't overcome their stuff around it. So that's why we inherit stuff from our parents. And I remember this story when I was a kid. I lived on a pear farm and we had tons of pears that all would just go rotten on the ground sometimes. We had about like 15 trees. And so neighbors would come and they would pick stuff and everything. My dad made pear wine, pear jam, everything, I can't eat pears right now.

But we filled the wheelbarrow up with peARS and there were three friends and me and we went to knock on people's doors and selling peARs with these plastic bags.

Money Archetypes and Stress Responses 10:28

And at the end, we got $20. So I gave everyone $5, and we went to the store and bought candy. And I was so proud that I made money. Like, I like, my dad is going to be so impressed with me. So I'm at the dinner table and I say, Hey dad, you know what I did today? I made $20 selling the pairs in the backyard to the neighbors. And he goes, wow, good for you. Where is the $ 20? And I said, well, I gave five to each one of us and we went and bought candy and he went, that's not good business sense. Those were your pairs, those where you brought the capital in.

I had this thing of like, i'm a bad business person, right? That carried with me. It also had that thing. everything has to be fair. Right. You know, we all did the same work. I don't care if it was my pairs or my bags or wheelbarrow. We all do the work, so it should be fare. And that's culturally very baked into the Canadian culture. The American culture would be more like my dad, like you're an entrepreneur kind of. you know, you should get a better cut because it was your product, right? But very Canadian is very socialist, very similar, we all should be taken care of, like that kind of thing.

And there's this cultural thing that runs how we make decisions with money too. So I mean, I think we get influenced by our parents in lots of ways. Like, do you have a story that lingers in your money story? that you might have inherited from your family. And, you know, it's funny, I don't remember much. My mom died when I was 26, so I really don' remember many stories there. But my dad, because he's still alive, and I talk to him every day, he had a business, multiple businesses, construction, excavating.

I would work with him and see how he would negotiate with customers and talk about things, but he was always people pleasing. Anything for the customer. business, it took on to me is like, you will bend over backwards. You do whatever it takes to make someone happy, which I think is a good principle. But in his case, he was also cutting his prices, really undercutting himself and really just devaluing himself. And then it turned to an older age where he would just beat up on himself about, I should have made more money.

I shouldn't have done this. So I just kept hearing like money's hard to Money doesn't grow on trees. Money's so hard, hard hard. And so when I got older, I was like, oh, okay, so I have to work hard? to make money. All right. I can pull an 80 hour week. No problem. And people who are listening to this are my patients. They know I do that. Um, you know, but it's not, it sounds love, right? It's, not like I'm like, Ooh, I need to, make all this money, But at the same time, there is a lot of interesting things that I see coming up.

and I'd be lying if I said I've, healed all my money wounds. That's. Not true. But I, see it now where I did, five, 10 years ago. completes the money story. So I think we're so hard on ourselves of what the right way is to be with money. What it is, is regulated. You need a regulated nervous system with your money, where you can make decisions with educated logic, because rather than in emotional logic. Do you mind if I just kind of unpack it a little? Is that okay? Um, the work hard for money is a very common story for a lot of us and I have it baked into me as well.

And my value is in my work, right? So if money came in easy, it wouldn't be as valuable to me, even though I wanted, I don't want to work so hard and all that stuff. If I had money come into, me it would be more like, okay, But it wouldn't matter as much. And because I'm a healer and I do this similar work in this, I want the person I am giving my effort to, to be transformed or affected or to feel good after. So there's this that's where my value is in. The price tag to that, it doesn't really matter because it's more about the transformation than the cost of it.

That once again puts money out. of a relationship. It's on the outside of our relationship, but what would it look like for you if money was a partner? Money was something that nurtured you. Money with something felt life giving and it really, you honored it like you would honor a patient, right? So there's so many different ways we can change hard work into a deeper intimacy with the currency we receive from it. Makes sense. It's layered. There's a lot of layers to it, but. Of course. And that's kind of where we come into like the money archetypes quiz that you have.

Yeah. For those of you guys who are like, what's that? Well, I'm sure she's going to tell us a little bit about the archetype. But I would love for you all to go over to her website and take her quiz because it's really fun to see, you know, where do you land on that. So tell a us little about layering in the archtypes and how they all play out. Well I created the Archetypes kind like The Hero's Journey where You know, you come in and you're usually an innocent, You don't know anything. You're just, whatever, right?

And something happens to you and You can either turn into like an orphan where you lose trust in authority or you feel like you can't trust anyone and blame the outside. Or you jump into the fool and just go across the threshold and go for the ride and hope for best. And that could be impulsivity, that can be overspending. The orphan could, life happens to me rather than for me. And the innocence, like, I don't want to look at it. I want my Prince Charming to take over and take everything. So those three archetypes are kind of young, right?

And we're moving through them. You can also turn into the artist where it's like, you know, money is bad and evil and it is, I don't want it to touch me. It's dirty. And my art is far greater than that. So I do not want money to taint it. Then you can kind of evolve into a caregiver, which is like taking care of everyone. There's a bit of a perfectionist and martyrdom. can happen with the caregiver as you're moving through the money story. And then we evolve into different other adult ones. Some can be the tyrant where you really hoarding.

There's never enough. You're holding down on it. Then the warrior where it's like you work hard and you do what you need to do to get things done. the warrior. And they could be the weary warrior after a time too. So like the Warrior and every archetype has a positive and a negative. Then the Wizard is the one that starts to have the intuition. The one who knows when to play and when hold. Knows who to engage with and who not to. It has the level of wisdom in their intuition And then the wise elder is the one that actually sees the broader scope of our economic terrain and realizes that you can use it to your advantage, but it cannot use you.

So you're not at the effect of marketing. You're, not the effective of the keeping up with the Joneses or struggle because you get, Oh, I get how this system works. you know, how to invest, you, know how, to make money, make, money. And you are really measured and regulated in it. And all of that is a journey. So there's nine archetypes and you could be all them. But usually at this time when you take the test, one shows up and then there is the shadow one behind it. And then one that you're growing into, right?

the journey through understanding what brilliance you're holding and not seeing. Gotcha. Okay. So, you know, when I look at that and I go, okay, there's all the different advocate types. There's also, the, different layers, like you said, each of these would have a dip, possibly relationship with how this impacts cortisol and stress and health. too. And so for folks that are like, huh, which, you know, maybe they were, as you were talking through them, they're like I resonate with that one. Yeah, that sounds familiar.

How would you, and I'm putting you on the spot, of course, guys, I didn't prepper for this. What would you say, if you had to summarize it in terms of most impact to cortisol and brain inflammation to least impact, what kind of archetypes would be the folks that's like, look, you need to do something today after this call. Let's work. So some of the behavior that you could demonstrate could match many archetypes, okay? Like avoidance could be a fool, an artist, and innocent, in an orphan. But an avoidant with a full is they avoid because they are jumping out of their airplane for the adrenaline, right?

And they want to like get the next fix and get their next hit so that they don't feel that cortisol. overload. But the innocent that is avoiding looking, they're desperate to find someone to save them. So there's always this low level of stress in their reality, right? And the tyrant that's obsessing and compulsively looking at their finances because there is never enough and they need to control it, that comes from a fear and that can be cortisol ridden, or the orphan that kind of blaming the world for all the things that happen and not taking any responsibility.

So they all are going to cause a level of stress in your body, right? And bringing in the arc, like sometimes we'll do a meditation on what one would resonate for you. I can give you just a little kind example around this. Probably Warrior. Okay, the weary warrior, like, yeah, okay. So the weary warrior you put in the middle and you look at it. And the wary warrior could also be like the fool at some point. Like you might've done foolish things when you were younger and that kind of thing.

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Or so it could be a combination of different things. Okay, so similar to taking like, you know, cortisol manager or like just different things to help you sleep better, to have all the things, reduce your cortisol or eat better. They need support. So they need the hand of the wizard to kind of just say, I got this. I've got your back. Just relax. You don't have to do everything. There are people around you that want to support you. Right. So, and your intuition is there to know when you need to rest, those kinds of things.

When you're working with the archetypes, you can pull some of them in, maybe the fool will come in and say, You need play a little more. You know, be ridiculous. And that might be a part of the healing around it that allows you to fire that feeling of oxytocin or serotonin, or whatever that you need in order to kind of rebalance your nervous system in it. So does that kind showcase what you were asking? Yeah, it gives us a really good sense of kind what that may look like for someone. I mean, I think the other big thing when we had talked, what I had connected is that I feel like, for a lot of folks, this chicken or the egg thing, a lot of people talk about body like inflammation, I kind of think there's some cases in which brain inflammation precedes the body inflammation.

And I also think the brain information may proceed weight gain and stress eating and all of that, you know, related to either related to either financial stress, life stress etc. Because I'm sure anyone on the podcast can relate. If you've not eaten all day and you're stressed, you are going to go home and hunt some food. But at the same time, if you open up your email and see a bill that's gone past you, or your bank account is overdrawn, I have to fix it. Now you're making willy-nilly decisions to try to move money.

Same thing goes with if you have make a choice for your business and you wait till the evening when you didn't eat all day and then you are stressed out. Yeah. Like you know, if don't take care of your body, you can't make good decisions. You just can't, you know? Like if you're in a crisis mode, your executive function is offline and you are just doing that primitive survival mechanism. And money is like the, I think it's the bottom Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It is the on-the-bottom rung. If that's not taken care of, nothing else can can be sound that you make choices or decisions around.

So do you think, I mean, if we had to ballpark it, do think a decent amount of the population right now just in the world are really making a lot of financial decisions on a brain that's already really inflamed or stressed out? I would say, yeah. There was a study just recently that 72% of Americans have stress about money daily. Yeah. Yeah. I could see that. No comparison, Canadian data. It's the same, it's pretty much the. Same. Yeah, I think that we don't have the, same stresses if you get sick and your health and the healthcare, and you have to pay for all of that, so we're lucky that We have some private health care, public health, care that way have access to.

So that takes things off the table, but really on average. Canadians make considerably, considerably less money than Americans. So they're working poor, having three jobs all the time to even just pay rent. And housing here is crazy. It's way more than America. So I mean, we could go into the economics of all of that, but truth, the stress around money will compromise your decision making. And you're only looking, I always use the metaphor is like, say you are driving your car and the tank is on empty.

You're not thinking of anything else, But where is the next gas station? All of your focus is right there. So you're not going to make a decision saying, oh, I need to take $5 or $10 and invest it. I needed to put this money away for my kids' education. Think about the map of how your money will get distributed because you are on empty and you just have to find the gas. Yeah, it's true. It's sure. And I think that's kind of where folks are. These are focused, you know, and it happens with health too, because when I work with women that want to lose weight, that all they're thinking about.

What happens? Weight goes up, your body becomes more inflamed. So it is very similar to the situation with money. The more I've focused on trying to balance things out better and then being stressed about it, the worse things got. But when I step back, had a plan, worked with somebody, now everything kind of worked better, but it seemed like you can't make great decisions from a frazzled brain. You know, it's really, I love that you're saying that because there are so many times people will go to a financial advisor when they're driving on empty.

you know, they're under earning or they overspending or whatever. And the financial advisor will give them all the plan and everything. They're like, I don't know how to implement that. It just fries their brain and then they go off and continue doing what they are doing. Then I realized what really the first step that needs to happen for people is to become regulated. And you can become regulated with breathing and all the things, but if you don't know what is dysregulating you at the root, it'll just keep coming, right?

So there's a level of awareness that you have to have first. And I have a whole process that clients and people that work with me online go through that it's so refined in the small little baby steps. that build on top of each other so that you can get into a better place with your money. Not get in it, start saving now, because that doesn't always work. You can't. There's so many other things. Like you're fried, right? So it has to start in your body before you make any other decisions with you bank accounts or your checks or things like that.

That makes sense because as you and I talked about since we both know Kate Northrup and her work, you know, there's a lot of nervous system resets, things of that nature that I've done that a lotta folks will work through. And I don't know. You know, how many folks go to financial advisors and they probably should have, like you said, the nervous system work first, or work with someone like, you who has the, nervous, system worked down. But I look at these things and I looked at patients and a lot of folks, it'll come down to looking at their health.

We may need to do some testing. to figure out a little deeper what's going on in their health. And they're like, oh, I'm going to have to save up for that. Or I am going have, and I respect that, you know, because a lot of things are not covered. It's cash pay things in the U.S. and even in Canada, the specialty testing isn't covered as well cash. So it's one of those things that when it comes to health, And it comes to being able to feel more secure to take care of your health and do the different testing that folks like.

What are one of the things that you recommend? Because I know in Canada, equally to the US, the specialty testing is not covered. We have in the US and I have no idea about other countries, so forgive me for not being well-versed, but we have things like health savings accounts and different accounts of that nature. What kind of things would you advise folks? Obviously we get our nervous system dialed in first. What's your opinion on health savings accounts? Do you feel like they're a good thing or do you think they are amazing?

They're amazing. The structure that I create, the money ecosystem I created with my clients is based on saving for things that you spend annually every year. Your paycheck should be divided into all the things. Health is a primary thing, whether it's dental, naturopathic, chiropractor, those kinds of things that may not be covered by an extended health plan or with your own whatever system in every country you live in, you need to look ahead at what the year is going to be. And what happens historically with people is they like, oh, I hurt my back.

I have to go see a chirapracter for 10 sessions.I didn't save for it. i'm going put it on my credit card. And then I'll catch up at the end of the year with paying it off once my back is back to normal. And that happens generally. If you're having like a SIBO or something in your gut and everything and the government's not going to fund any of those tests, you are suffering. You're suffering and when you become more aware and more educated about why you're suffering and that's what you do. Educate people, it could be this, but you need to have a test for it.

More people that get more and more educated take more responsibility to go to people like you to get these tests that maybe a mainstream doctor wouldn't necessarily be doing. They value their health and they value your expertise. So they're going to pay for Right? So the debt, similar to what I had said earlier, people want to go to these health seminars or personal development or consciousness stuff. That is so much more valuable than the money. I'm going to do it because it's going make me feel better.

But there's no relationship to the money in order to do that.

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So we structure a system that takes about a year before it's really humming and running and life happens within that year. It takes a bit of a years to get all the kinks out and move through it. The process is putting money away into health savings, into another savings account maybe if you don't have a health saving structure or you have the right income to support health We do something like that, and then we make sure that when something horrible happens, they don't drain it completely to get out of that.

You know what I mean? Because usually, say the car breaks down, you might have a health savings account that you're going to repair the care with, right? So it's really about having a bigger vision of the year and seeing it as a whole rather than just what's in front of you. I know that's a convoluted answer, but there's lots of layers to it as well. At the end of the day, when folks are looking at trying to restore their health, and that can be just a financial burden in and of itself. And just like you were saying, some people will throw down whatever they can to help with mindset and rewiring the brain and all those different things.

Sometimes people put down tens of thousands of dollars to feel good in their body again. And this is where we sometimes get to intersection of money and health, where someone spent so much money to try to get healthy, but they're stressed out because the debt is up here and their health is still down here. Any advice for folks that might be struggling in that department currently? Yeah, and it's a step, it is not like a magic wand, first of all. And I think, I always say to people that we wouldn't need money if we didn't have a body.

Money and body are so related. You know, we buy food, dress ourselves, buy cars, airplane tickets, all that stuff. All expensive to move our body through space, to dress ourself, eat our self, feed our selves, keep ourselves healthy. So they are SO related! And I would ask someone that has that anxiety because I have all this debt because of bills that I had to pay because my body has been sick, right? That is unfortunate. And that, I hate that we have to have that. Everyone should have the possibility to make choices to keep their body healthy.

And it shouldn't deplete them financially, but we're in a world where it does. Okay? So whoever's listening that's experiencing this right now, I want to say to you, it's okay. It's possible to get out of it. And yes, It is hard right. Now. I would actually invite them to, say, when you were making these financial choices for your body, were you connecting with your money too? Or was it just an ends to a means? So I would just invite anyone that's listening right now that struggling with the debt because they've been investing in their health.

Have you been able to be connected with your money throughout this journey? That's a great question. I mean, I know personally in different situations with myself, not necessarily health, but trying to work on bettering my business. bettering my approach to practice, I guess we call it continuing education of sorts, but also personal development. Just like you were saying, that tens of thousands of dollars people have put into that, have definitely been there. And I've definitely wanted the whole to do it, right?

And the ends to the means, like that's an interesting one. Then the connection to money. I don't think that I developed that fully. Many of the times that I think that, I was looking for an outcome and I, was only outcome or, you know, probably more like getting rid of, the problem oriented versus out even trans, it wasn't transformation. That's I'll say that. So would that mean what the kind of what you're saying by connecting to the money, helping them? help you. If I gave an opposite example, it might, you might be able to feel this in your body.

So like when you look at your credit card and say it's $10,000 in debt. Okay. And you looked at it and like, Oh, this is because I went to those two conferences to build my business. Or this is because I had all the tests done by the doctor to see what was going on in my gut. Or like those kind of things, right? Like you're making those decisions and you go. And then what we do with people is like, okay, so this what you've already paid. So we need to have like we to honor it. We need honor that debt.

Okay? So this debt allowed me to create structure in an online business that I never would have had before. So every time you're paying the debt, you are honoring it. You're not digging yourself out of a hole. And so there's a different type of connection to the debts, right? Now, when you about to pay for something that you don't have and you put it on the credit card, before you do that, okay, how can I honor this investment? I'm going to do all the courses. I am going really dig into the material.I am gonna work through all of the processes.

juice this investment the best way I can in order to honor it. So it's an emotional relationship when you're honoring the money in what it is giving you, rather than just saying, I want change, and it isn't even related to the mone. Right? Right. Give me dividends on that deal. I need some weight pulling off dividends or whatever it may be. But yes, I hear you on that. Okay, okay. I mean, I think one of the big things that I love, that a hear a lot of folks talk about when it comes to money is, if we're good stewards of money, we can do more for good, right?

And help uplift society, good for the collective, things of that nature. So some folks might be thinking right now, like, Okay Brenda, so, all right, maybe I'm good with money. Maybe I need some help with the money maybe need to figure things out. maybe my family really messed me up. Of course, we've got a whole program that you've gotten, and we also have something coming up on the 28th of January. Now, I want, of course just like you, before we hit record, let's give these guys something they can work with, you know, a takeaway, but also we want to invite them to the 20th and talk about that too.

Let's start with like, what would you like them take away today for something that they could use actionable starting right as soon as a podcast. Well, I mean, we've heard so many ways of how to manage our money and don't be impulsive. Don't overspend anything like that. And just because we were talking about like the stress that you feel after you've spent that causes a problem with your body. My question to you, do you have a practice to notice when you're stressed. And most of the time will people say, I only know I'm stressed when I realize I am overeating or I have acid influx or have a headache or like something your physical body is doing.

So I would say every day. I would just put your hand on your chest and just say, like, do your three breaths or whatever to just be in touch with your body. And then I'm kind of like going on the fly here because there's so much going in the program, in webinar that I am doing that, I'd love to invite all of you to be a part of. But there is a whole rewire process that we go through, step by step, that you can use. The acronym is REWIRE and each step is with the word. And that regulating yourself and recognizing where you are is that first step.

Okay. And there's a process to doing that. So let's think you say like, what's an internal language that you have around stressful money? Like, oh, I don't have enough. I'm bad with money. Yep. Yep. Comes and goes, comes and does really fast. Where did it all go? Where'd it, it'll go, where did all my, all money go. Okay. Let's do that. One's a good one. okay. where'd all of my money. Go. You heard yourself say that stop. And then I want you to go into your body. I'm like, what does that do to your.

When you say. tightens up. You tighten up, you tighten. Okay, do the tighten-up, feel it, just notice it. It just tighten it up right and you just noticed and I just want you to pay attention to where that tightening is. you're just recognizing it and we just really practice the recognizing. I'm tight. You don't have to do anything. Do you have do to anything? You just have recognize it. Because I guarantee what most people do is, where did that all money go? I don' want to feel that tightness. Okay, let's go get busy.

Let's eat. let' go do stuff. Lets go all the things, right? Because i don''t want know that I''m tight, but let''s just know. There's nothing, there's no fixing. there'''s nothing you haveto do other than, I am tight Where did all that money go? That's in my chest. No fixing, just recognizing. I like it. Okay. So one of the things that you can learn from Brenda amongst more that are coming up in the break. So let's talk about the break the money patterns you were born into. And now that we know kind of how to feel and start feeling what's going on when we start to have those things that come out of our mouth around money.

Next, we can step into hanging out with Brenda a little bit more. Give us a scoop. So I am offering a free live webinar. on January 28th at 10 a.m. PST. It's Wednesday morning and it's really going to be about breaking. Actually, you're going have actionable steps on how to break the patterns that you were born into. And sometimes we don't even know what the pattern we are born in to. So there's going be a process of seeing what those patterns could be. and how to break them, and really concrete steps to do that.

What I intend for everyone that's on the call is to have stuff they can do right away, in the moment, throughout their day, to really start to be in communion with the money in their life, because that is the ultimate goal. And this webinar, I'll just be really transparent around this because I want to invite over 5,000 people, this is my target, my goal, to do the intergenerational money reset that I offer this very affordable and everything. But my goal is to have 5,000 people at the same time unplugging from some of these patterns.

Because my belief is that when we do things together, it makes it so much easier and it make it easier for the next people that are coming in. So it's a very, It's A Ripple. And that's the movement that I'd like to create is a ripple of change for people to start to live in the present with their money rather than bringing back the old stories that they inherited and the behaviors that They have into how they relate with money in The world. Absolutely great. Because I think at the end of the day, a lot of us want to see more good in And the only way we can achieve that is if we get together and we could get good with our money because we put our own money where we want it to go for good.

And if you don't like what's going on right now in the world, the way you can make change is through. And it's not about unplugging from the system, because a lot of people make it like, oh, the systems corrupt, I don't want to have anything to do with it. And I'm like no, that's how we become empowered. We become powered by understanding the System and then making choices and behaviors that actually help us excel. I believe that we should all be wealthy. Everyone. It's possible. I think it is. I know we all have little, yeah, buts.

Yeah, this is my story, or yeah but that. And it's very easy to get into that, But I do think at the end of the day, and this where I'm really, you know, I am in agreement that I really think we have the potential. You'll hear people say it your birthright, it this, its that! But at end the of day and I this I want folks to be thinking about with the podcast is that if you don't like what's going on right now in the universe, You have the potential to change it by helping your energy and helping the flow with money and getting the money to the places it needs to be.

Hey! Yes! That's absolutely for sure. So let's tell folks where to find you and we'll put the link folks. It's going to be below to join up with Brenda's masterclass webinar. All these words, master class webinar, same thing. On the 28th at 10 a.m. Pacific. We'll have the links below, but let us tell them your website, brendasaintlouis.com, correct? Yep. Brenda St. Louis, alloneword.com, Instagram, Facebook, and on the website. And the intergenerational money reset and the webinar is on my website, And if you want to take the archetype quiz, they're all in my link tree in any of my socials as well.

Okay. Deal. Yes. We definitely want you to that, that way you know kind of where you're at and what you can do there. and at the end of the day, you we have such great stuff. with Brenda here. And if one day, I really want you guys to experience one-day, if you can't make it that day take a look into the intergenerational money reset because what's happening is we have been kind of programmed by society, by previous generations that struggled with money. If you're of the generation kind before me, but I was a late accident for my parents and they're coming out at depression age, the programming is deep.

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