Get To The Root Of Your Gut Issues

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

Thank you for having me on. 

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Okay.  Sorry to embarrass you, but you are kind of a big deal.  Let us unpack for people. I really wanted you to be at the beginning of the summit here with me helping people to understand what paradigm we were in, because there is a lot of different ways to view health and medical issues today. I want to help people ground into what the solutions that are available to us that are there we see working, and you have been instrumental in sharing those with people. Let us start out and let us do rapid fire presuppositions, building the framework for people. some good.

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

Sounds good.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Okay. How would you describe the difference between germ theory versus terrain theory? We often refer to terrain theory as we were trying to describe the solutions. But if you do not know what it is, it’s not very meaningful. Right.

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

Right. What most people are familiar with is germ theory. Germ theory is where we talk about the bugs are bad, so we get to kill the bugs. Hence we have antibiotics, antifungals, everything’s there to we were getting infected and then we were trying to kill it and get it out of the bottom. Terrain theory is the fact that the bugs are there for a purpose. It’s the terrain that is changed and therefore causing polymorphism, meaning that the bacteria is already there and we already have E-coli in our body. We already have Candida in our body and it was reintroduces toxins into our body also. Now these things can see a morph and be toxic to us, meaning that their byproduct is toxic but in a bug itself is not necessarily toxic. So therefore what we were missing out is we need to clean up the terrain versus always going after the bugs. The bugs play a role and in fact part of detoxifying. What is really happening is the bug is metabolizing the toxin and and that is why it raises that is why we get all those Candida antibodies when we get other bacteria that increase, say, H-pylori and a variety of other bugs, there. And it can be even to the point of some theories, maybe Lyme disease. Lyme maybe has a role of detoxing the body that we got exposed to something and now it’s active and it’s gone and and we were always trying to go in there, kill, kill, kill,  through the antibiotic, through herbals, through whatever it may be, versus looking at it from a an immune standpoint or detoxing what is creating the problem.  then looking at, okay, how do I balance the homeosis to not to make the body to work on someone the way it should?

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, that is a great way to summarize it.  What do you see as some of the biggest toxic drivers that are really clogging up this terrain in our body today?

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

There is a couple of the largest exposures we have, are one is glyphosate, and then another one is atrazine. Atrazine, the second most used pesticide. And that is also highly responsible for a lot of hormonal dysfunction within the body is where a doctor wrote a book on extra generation that it’s the estrogenation in a way of men lower testosterone and more estrogen and creating all kinds of health issues and developmental issues as well.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, very well said.  so I think that people are still focusing a lot on heavy metals and they are absolutely disruptive to the terrain. And at the same time, we need to really expand our awareness and our intelligence about this chemical exposures and how quickly we can verbalize them. 

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

Well, there is 86,000 chemicals registered with the EPA. Probably 44,000 or so that are active chemicals being used. But then you have all these other ones that are forever chemicals 50,000 etc., and those, you really look at those they’re in our environment. They’re everywhere. We are worried about a little bit of the heavy metals that we have exposure to that we were blaming the problem for or is it the 86,000 plus chemicals that have been used for years that are increasing. When you look at the health trends, colitis and Crohn’s disease, autoimmune disease, a lot of these illnesses have really skyrocketed in the nineties on up through the 2000 once right along with the usage of glyphosate, for example, and then the other is other chemicals. So can we blame everything on the trend in functional medicine? We get these trends. Well it’s Candida that is the problem. It’s heavy metals, it’s mercury that is the problem and then ignoring what we were most exposed to in our food and water.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, that is a really great point. Okay. So, in terrain theory, given that are body burden of environmental toxicants is going up dramatically over the last couple of decades, what is the relationship between that and that bacterial response that you alluded to? If bacteria are not the enemy, what are they doing and why have they become so, quote unquote, problematic?

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

They are problematic because of the byproduct they produce. Kind of a bug, right? We react to that. It creates a lot of problems. So, in the example of Lyme is that it creates joint pain, and it’s not the lyme that is creating it’s the byproduct ammonia and the other two byproduct the toxin they produce parasites produce a lot of toxins, that is biotoxins that then also create joint pain that creates a lot of gastrointestinal problems, a lot of dysregulation within the immune system.  And so you consider the whole bacteria, part of it is cleaning up the environment. There is a experiment done that I know the company that it had this beagle, the training dairy the training where this is a nasty process, disgusting is  how do we clean this up?  They fed it nutrients the bacteria that they put a bunch of nutrients in it that fed good or bad bacteria that really the clean up. They were not going in and trying to kill off all the anaerobic bacteria and garbage stuff. Instead, they fed the good bacteria, metabolize the toxins and cleaned everything up and created the right microbiome or the right terrain in that area.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

That’s perfect example. Okay, so you are the Parasite Guy and you really helped people to understand just how widespread gut parasites are and how persistent they are. Setting aside for the moment, other systemic parasites, how does all of that fit into the gut microbiome issues that we were seeing today? Polymorphism: Do you think that , how can you explain to people who are just getting exposed to the idea of parasites driving some of their deep gut issues? How all this fits together?

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

First they proliferate. When there is a bad terrain, then the immune system is affected, which then allows the parasites to then proliferate, create an environment where biofilms are built. You have a lot more yeast, fungus that is in that arena and more bacteria. with that they thrive. They absorb actually a lot of toxins, which is a beneficial in some ways. I presented on this. But at the same time when you consider what is really happening there is then they’re producing their own toxin, a bio toxin that causes damage to the lining of the intestines and causing damage to the function of how the body works. Some of them produce enzymes that inhibit peristalsis to where you get constipated, other ones cause a diarrhea in the system and then otherwise produce enzymes that inhibit Krebs cycle function which the ancient trade fatigue and lack of production of ATP, which is the fuel for lots of enzymatic reactions within the body and how it all works. 

When you look at overall what it does, yes, it creates all kinds of issues. I remember one of the problems I had when I first started detoxing, I created a product called Pareto and I worked on it for two and a half years. I made a formula with the combination of a variety of ingredients and I wasn’t quite there yet. There is one other thing. I finally added one other ingredient called holy basil, and all of a sudden, literally I have been taking the product before the holy basil and taking it for a couple months. I am using two dropper fulls and I do two doses, all of a sudden my hands are swollen, my feet are swollen, I got rash all over my body. What’s going on?  I thought  my wife, changed laundry. So, it’s not going to happen. Then I realized, “Oh, it’s the product.” I just had renders of line and other things in my joints that needed to be cleaned out. A body needs further detox and as I did that, I had backed off for a few days and then started back on it. Lower dosing worked up to where I was doing five or ten dropper fulls. And it is changed so much in my health by being able to clear out deeper detoxification.  so when you look at some of these herbs not only do they have maybe some antimicrobial effects, but they really work well with the microbiome on helping to balance out and or, can have an inflammatory properties and a lot of other help properties versus just chilling stuff  name is one is called the village pharmacy and it really helps you actually make a better microbiome and they say that it has parasites because of the bitter so it pushes stuff out.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, that is a great overview for people.  you mentioned your own product development. Of course, that is for CellCore.  I just want to give people a little bit of a window into your personal health story and how you are coming at this, not just as a clinician and as a formulator, but also as somebody who has walked this path of being chronically ill and having to figure out these issues for yourself. Can you share a little bit with us?

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

Yes. I will be 55 here in September. It happened at 28 I hit the wall with Lyme, with Epstein-Barr.  I went through that whole thing was down for a couple of months and then got slowly back to work and getting my health back. But after that in 30 I started developing allergies and just injuries were occurring on hamstrings, muscles, tendonitis, Achilles tendonitis really bad, wrist pain, had wrist pain probably back of my wrist for 20 years. I couldn’t figure out what that was.  a little stitch underneath my left ribs that this little peanut every so often bothered me. And then when I hit 40, I went through a lot of stress. In 2008, there is a lot going to happen in the economy. I lost my house, my car, everything, and I had a couple of girls, some from back school at age 41. At that point when I was in school, I was at a conference and I listened to this doctor talk about Lyme disease, never heard of it. He listed all his symptoms and they can manage fatigue, headaches, migraines, food sensitivities, seasonal allergies, joint pain, memory issues, word recall, you know, I can’t work out, my legs seem really heavy and there’s some stuff with my heart. 

Okay, what is all this and Lyme and disease, it’s two main issues. I went down that road of taking products for that stuff helped for a while and I would trash and I wasn’t looking at the whole system like an infection. And as I was going through my journey as a doctor, I graduated and another guy told me about parasites. “Go, get this parasite.”  I went this rabbit hole, deep dive. Once I treated parasites, all of a sudden my whole system bounced out and I start cycling back in these Lyme disease issues and because the Th1 teach me systems are highly correlated and one suppresses the other, which is out of balance. And the main issue I had probably was the parasite infections creating suppression in the immune system, allowing the issues to occur.  And then from there I learned more about detoxification and understanding toxins. And as I cleared out toxins, then a lot of my symptoms with that fatigue went away. My allergies went away. Plant parasites, my joint pain, my wrist pain, that was crazy. The wrist pain that I had all those years gone. My headaches, migraines, all that went away. My fatigue really went away, once I address some of the toxicants and the parasites also helped.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Me a little bit about your story is that I think it gives people a lot of hope, for one thing, and also describes the progression that so many people have to make. You know, there are these early warning signs for years and then when life hands your really stressful event that exceeds your nervous systems capacity to meet it, that is when everything comes crashing in. That’s when the toxin bucket feels  it’s overflowing, even though it’s been building for quite some time.

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

Decades. 

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, it’s exactly. Because you have such a breath of expertize in gut health, in persistent chronic gut conditions and in parasites specifically. I really want to give us some time to unpack that. me of the myths that still persist, even at functional medicine, even in natural health, about parasites, about chronic gut conditions, because I think we were still catching up to the data that is available to us now. What do you think of those problems are?.

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

Yes, I agree with that. One is that, they believe in testing in parasites where they test on I mean, they do composites sometimes. But, I have had so many negative tests that I saw it and just feel, it was , okay, well, we had nothing. I really believe this is the problem. We need to really treat that and ensure health just stuff comes out you can’t believe it. You know, I have seen this from other loads of liver flukes. Too many people, tapeworms can have people roundworms, just people. I have had women urinate out parasites. Parasites come out through their sinuses and their nose, some out their ears. That’s rare. But couple those through their skin exam in their life and health changes dramatically because of going that avenue of the drug. And I would have never gone down that road in functional medicine had I relied on a lab to find a cure.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

So  true. It’s I think it’s heartbreaking actually, the level of accuracy in those stool tests that are claiming, essentially that if we can’t see it in there, then and it must not be there because you can waste years of health on essentially an incomplete window of information.

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

Well, what people do is they take nutrients and vitamins and vitamin C and vitamin D and they do all these other things. What they are missing out is the root cause of why they are not getting at the foundation of what is really happening. If you look at other countries, so as you go out to study outside the United States, this is common parasite cleansing is really common in the global economy. Now, just because we live in the United States does not mean we were not affected by these things. You can get mosquito bites, into food. You can get them through water sources, swimming in the lake, walking barefoot, from your dogs and cats and horses and animals and things like that.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

How can we find each other?

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

With each other. It just it sort this out is.  so if we just are more consistent with doing that, you are going to have better health and a longer longevity.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

What do you think are some of the top mistakes that people make when it comes to parasite cleansing? Because not all parasite cleanses are created equal?

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

I know they are not for sure. So many times I have had people take all kinds of different products, which is why I formulated a bunch of new ones was because I never saw the results. So when you are looking at it, one is you got to be sure you are taking products that address the eggs and just the different forms of the parasites. Otherwise you just keep reinventing them, they just keep producing. So that is where trade for products and repairs have ingredients that address takes care of two, three and four and.  then you must separate their products. Then a great job is scrubbing the gut, removing a lot of things that do not belong there.  We’ve seen that over and over with people. Some people think, “Oh, it’s just the product that you see.” It’s not just the product as a clinician who worked with the product for probably eight years now, maybe nine years now and then other clinicians, you can tell what is the product, what is not the product.  also you get to look at clinically. How are their symptoms? Are they going away? Are the people improving? And it’s awesome to see people’s lives changed from that standpoint. They are not really helping people, even the medications actually can be helpful, but they do not address the stages of the person, they don’t address the ages and stuff that they need. Some of them are more just gut, other ones go systemic. I find, really diving in, working more with nature has really helped and really getting good results.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

We get people in our rapid get reset course who go from not believing that they disbelieve that they have parasites and I am here but I am here to learn the other tools in the course. I am sure I do not have parasites. And then we have them do the pair one challenge with the Mimosa Pudica seed and with they go from not believing that this is a core issue to them to, like  in six weeks they can tell already they are so body literate so quickly. “Oh, I can tell when I am about to pass a large parasite because I have these internal signals and then this is how I feel afterwards.”  It’s a relief. They feel more like themselves again, there are significannot shifts in your health often right away, and it’s just astonishing.

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

It’s amazing how many sickness are going away. I mean, seasonal allergies, well, I had them very bad. And my eyes, it itch so bad. And my throat is itching and nasal congestion irritating and just the quality of life changes, the headaches, the migraines that is wonderful to be able to not have that and be able to eat different foods without having reactions to the foods as well. You know, to get rid of the different pains and issues within the body that can occur from parasites.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes. It’s actually wild. We are going to unpack this further in the summit with Dr. Jaban Moore and so many other friends.  I really want to fill in any gaps right now to set the stage for everybody so that we can have a really successful educational experience here. People really can take control over their own health in a short amount of time.  when it comes to terrain theory, how toxins build up, how they necessitate almost that pathogenic response, bacteria play a morphing into their aggressive form to help stabilize the situation or take advantage of it. I mean, how you look at it, it’s parasites thriving in the stagnant environment. What else do people need to know about this picture in order to figure out what is really going to move the needle for them?  A couple of different things. One is being sure your drainage pathways are going be you are having good, bowel moments. Your bowels flowing with it will be able to get the toxicants out of the body. 

And another thing to consider is as you parasite cleanse is really important to cleanse and clear toxins and toxicants because otherwise if you do not do that then you can know feel some of the repercussions from headaches, rashes and things. So opening up drainage is really important and using the binders to really help to soak up or clean a sponge all the toxins and stuff.  then, using the process, there is a process to this supporting mitochondrial functions that restoring the body’s own immune system to function the way it needs to is are really important. The optimal thing for me I look at is how do I get the body to do what it’s supposed to do? It got me, made it to do on its own. It’s overburdened right now. Let me remove the burden and then allow it to do what it would have naturally as I do.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

That’s beautifully said. Thank you so much. How about for folks who think that they are already doing drainage support and then Dr. Todd, I have been working on this stuff and I still feel a little lost or I am not seeing the results that I was hoping for. What are some common things that people skip or overlook?

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

If they do get any support? That is awesome. That means you support a kidney, liver and bowel movements. So, those organs need to be really supported well. And then the next thing to consider and look at is going to be to really look at, okay, how do I get to that optimal health balancing immune system out? Or it really is important to consider what bacteria, protozoans, viruses and stuff is going to be from the Th1 system. Parasites are stage two. And if this imbalance, then the body is not going to handle it.  you may need to give it additional support to deal with those things, to reduce some of those symptoms.  then from there, what I tell a mindset and how you think is so important. You are what you think. The physiology occurs, walking in, getting out in the sun is really important is red light therapy, sauna therapy. You know, there is the cold plunge therapy stuff working in some of these things into your daily routine. Animals have really been helpful to really open up that liver and move things, colonics for some people. , bringing some of these different treatments that you may not normally do or accustomed to doing actually can be some big breakthroughs for you.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Yes, that is such a great point. I really appreciate your pointing that out. Any last words of encouragement for our gluten free yogis who still feel crap? They think they are doing everything right and they still have a long way to go.

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

It’s just a feeling crap and you haven’t got the source of the problem, so you still have to work on why it’s there. There is a reason the toxins are missing. There’s an infection that you are missing or a parasite that you need to clear, and that will get you to the next level. This is a journey. It’s not an event. Detoxification is not an event. It’s a journey. It’s a lifelong thing. You will get exposed every day, especially if you live in Southern California, where I am from originally, but it’s in the air and we look at the air looks horrible. The water supply has a ton of toxins. That’s why clean water is so important. The food in organic and locally grown, people you know, and supporting local, local businesses is really important anyway. It supports your community and I am a big advocate of that and especially meat. Meat it’s back in the store. The reason why it’s red is because it’s sprayed at the morning chloride and sprayed with the chemicals to keep it looking fresh. Where you go buy liquor. I have a sister in law that raises cattle so we get a half a cow every year and once or twice a year we, it’s all frozen. It’s not going through a process of getting toxins added to it. Also, is it free range versus, eating out the garbage and the toxic food that they are feeding? It has all the GMO stuff in it.  knowing what you are eating, what you put into your body, when you are putting it into your mind, your brain is really important and it can be the game changer for your mindset that really helped me overcome. My health is changing the way I thought and knowing that I was a warrior to overcome all this chronic ten years of fatigue and health issues to get me to where I am today.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

That’s beautifully said. I did not realize that back when I was so sick.  I couldn’t read an email, couldn’t write a sentence, couldn’t stand up for more than five minutes at a time. I had this negative meditation going the whole day long. My body is broken. I am on the short bus, my genes are messed up. Why me? Why me? You know?  everybody was listening the whole time.

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

That’s amazing.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Funny how that works. It was really making that decision to ask myself instead just even a neutral question. Is that what I am thinking right now adding to my life force or is it decreasing it?  I answer is always going to be clear, your body knows the truth.

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

It does. That’s great to clear the air.

Sinclair Kennally, CNHP, CNC

Thank you so much for sharing your story and the gifts that came out of your own health journey. I would argue that it’s worth it because so many of us, including myself, have benefited from your deep research and your commitment to excellence. I really appreciate your contribution.

Todd Watts, DC, PSCD

You are welcome. I love to be part of this. It’s what I have a passion and that is helping others. I love it.