Harmonizing Health: Bioenergetics In Healing

Steve McCardell

Hi, how are you, Laura?

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

It is going to be a great talk. I cannot wait until it is. It is going to be fun. You are certified as both a bioenergetics and natural health practitioner, and you are the Director of Education for NES Health, we will be talking about what that is. You have written and taught extensively on health and wellness topics, and you are the coauthor of the book Restore Your Energy with 

Bioenergetics. Recently, on a personal note, I had you come in and teach in my group programs, my detoxing group programs and it was a fantastic experience for all involved. I am excited to have you here.

Steve McCardell

We had fun, didn’t we? 

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

We did. People loved it. Here we are at the Silent Killers Summit, and we are dealing with the root causes of chronic inflammation and chronic inflammatory diseases. We are doing a lot of talking about toxins, infections, and nutrient deficiencies. We are also bringing in talks about trauma and stress. Interestingly, bioenergetics touches on multiple aspects of all of those root causes. This is why, when we think about bioenergetics, a lot of time we think about it helping with resolving traumas and stress and supporting the body where it needs it on that emotional level. But it also touches on the biology of the body, the terrain, and nutrition. Before we jump into all of that, I think we need to define what bioenergetics are. What is this concept? What is a biofield? What is Bioenergetics? What the heck is this anyway? I will let you take it from there, and then I will just ask you questions as we go. Okay.

Steve McCardell

Cool. Yes. Bioenergetics is going to lead us right into silent killers, the ultimate silent killers. Because if you think about bioenergetics conventionally, what we are dealing with in medicine and nutrition is the chemistry of the body. We all know about vitamins and minerals and things like this when dealing with chemistry. But chemistry is built on physics. Life is built on physics. That is energy. When you talk about bioenergetics, you are talking about the energy of life. Now there is a field of science called bioenergetics, where they are dealing with life energy, but they are dealing primarily with ATP, which is the chemical energy that the cells produce. What we are doing with bioenergetics is expanding that out into all the ways that the body produces energy and uses that energy, which is key. We have to have enough energy for just a car. We have to have enough energy to get somewhere. Then we have to use that energy efficiently. That is our mileage per gallon. Communication in the body has to be accurate, and it has to not be blocked. There is all this about dealing with the energy side of things.

When you are talking energy, you are talking frequencies. I use the example because a lot of people understand that the sun strikes our skin and we produce vitamin D. There is nothing chemical about that exchange. This is electromagnetic fields from the sun interacting with us, affecting our biology, and making us do something chemical. When we think about toxins, for example, we might initially think of mercury or any of the chemical toxins out there, but there are non-chemical, there are biochemical, and there are bioenergetic chemical toxins as well, meaning cell phone frequencies, and cell towers. Wi-fi. There are all these EMFs, and so when you want to get to silent killers, you have to include harmonic frequencies, things that disrupt the field that our own body produces. That is what you say. You have mentioned the body field. Our bodies produce fields. If those get disrupted because everything is based on energy, if you disrupt the energy system of the body, then all the chemistry is going to go wrong. people to talk about trickle-down. It is trickling up. It is when you go down to the very smallest things. That is the foundation of life. It trickles up through chemistry, into our cells, and our life experiences. This is why bioenergetics is so important.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

I have a lot to say about frequency. People may be listening to this right now, thinking it is hard to understand. We have frequencies. I want you to think about a moment in time when you met somebody and were instantly repelled before they even opened their mouth. You were just creepy crawlies. The hair on the back of your neck goes up. Get me away from this person. That is energy. Conversely, you meet somebody and instantly become attracted to their energy. It was not about how they looked. It was not because they had attractive faces or features. It was the energy. You just knew I wanted to be near this person. This person is safe, this person is loving, and this person feels good. That is an example of how we emit energy and can pick up on other people’s energy. But we are just used to ignoring it. I think it is this sense that we have that we just do not hone in on. Some people do quite a bit, and many people do not. But I think, while we are talking about the human body biofield, there are also frequencies when we think about bioenergetics, and we are going to get into this and how we measure it. Can you talk a little bit about some things in medicine that we may be familiar with that measure our body’s energy? We talked about this recently when we did that class together, but we talked about MRIs and EKGs, and we measure the frequency and energy coming off of your body in medicine when we do these types of scans. Talk a little bit about that because that helps people wrap their minds around what you mentioned—the physics of this.

Steve McCardell

Yes. Well, I am preparing to talk right now about dividing things into the electrical nature of the body and the field nature of the body. That is when you get into frequencies, and people can think of this as if you want to think about a field; just think of the ocean and the frequencies of the waves across it. You have to when you are dealing with something invisible, the fields of space, you have to picture something to make sense of it. When I think of, let us say, an energy particle emitting a frequency, I just think of a bubble coming off of it. I am drawing a blank on what we were talking about.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

I asked about medical technology.

Steve McCardell

Yes. Thank you. You have the electrical; you have the field-based. You have your EKGs and your EEGs, and things like this measure the electrical nature of the body. We have a lot of them. There are many more that will measure various factors as well as you have, even things like the impedance of the skin and how the electricity runs along the skin. They can measure body composition with this. There are a lot of ways you can measure the electrical system of the body. But as you mentioned, the MRIs—this is where I think it is important for people to understand that medicine’s already using something where frequency and very specific frequencies are needed for MRIs to work. They have to have a radio frequency coming in at the exact right frequency that essentially speaks with a proton, which is part of an atom. They have to affect the spin of that proton for this MRI to work. If they have the wrong frequency, there is no conversation taking place. There is talk about those as matches. What’s that?

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

There is no picture that, if it does not match, you do not get an MRI image. We cannot see what half of the picture is.

Steve McCardell

No picture comes back from it. That is right. Because what they are not doing is altering the spin of the proton. Then, when they take that off, the spin goes back to normal, and that sends a radio frequency back out so that they can then read the image on the body. It is crazy, but it all depends on resonant frequencies and being able to match what we are doing with our machine with what is going on in the body. That is at the heart of what bioenergetics is doing when we make assessments, too.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Okay. Now we have established that bioenergetics is a frequency, that there is an electrical frequency, and that there is a field. There is the body field. We have these two things. Do I have that right?

Steve McCardell

Yes. Close enough. Yes.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Ish. 

Steve McCardell

Yes.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

See, it is even hard for me to wrap my mind around, and I know.

Steve McCardell

What you are doing is correct. It is more complex when you get into the fields. But yes, if you think about the brain, we talk about brain waves in Hz, and those are frequencies. When we talk about delta and theta, a lot of people who are into meditation have at least heard of theta. Well, that is just a brainwave. It is Hertz. It is about 5 to 8 hertz, which is the theta range. That is just the number of times. It is just how often it is going this way. That is all the frequency means. When you get down into the non-electric nature, you get into the field base. Now you are dealing with more complex sets of frequencies. But at the heart of it, it is the same general concept.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Okay, so now we have unpacked that. Now, why is this relevant? Let us connect the dots here. Why would Laura bring somebody like Steve to talk about bioenergetics? How is this relevant to everyone here wanting to solve their health problems?

Steve McCardell

Well, relevant to all the areas you talked about already. if we just think, for instance. Well, let me back up. Let me go back to this MRI concept. There is communication taking place between the equipment and the protons—the surviving protons.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

The protons are in your body. Just making.

Steve McCardell

Protons are in your body. They are parts of the atoms that make the molecules that make the cells, but the same thing is happening with all the cells of the body. They are all emitting frequencies. When they are resonant with one another, there is communication taking place. To make this as simple as I can, just think of wifi. Your router sends out information, which is picked up by a device. that device does something as a result of them being in communication through this frequency. The same thing is happening in the body. I can tell you to reference this one, this research that came out four years ago now, where they said they found that wireless communication was taking place inside the brain, even in areas where there had been a physical server, a surgical server between the two areas yet communication was still taking place. They said we do not know how this is happening because they are used to thinking about neurons connecting and all of that. 

Well, what is happening is that there is wireless communication in the body. The cells talk to each other. This is why energy is so important. What I was saying earlier was that you need communication to take place. You need it to be accurate, and you need it to be efficient. If I were to say something to you but you did not understand the words I was saying, we do not have good communication taking place. We need to remove blockages, which can often be caused by toxins that block communication between the cells. We need to be able to flush those toxins out. To assist with that. We need to make sure that the cells are sending the right information, and then, just to take it a little step further, if we think about the heart, the heart is going to have its cells, and those cells are going to be in communication with each other because they are all supposed to be singing the same tune, the same with the liver, and the same in the kidneys, but sometimes different parts of the body also speak to each other. 

For instance, the liver speaks, especially with the retina, but different parts of the eye. This is, if somebody knows anything about acupuncture, this idea of meridians in the body where there is a flow of energy, there is also a communication pathway. Many communication pathways in the body connect to different parts of the body and allow it to operate as a whole. If we are ignoring this wireless communication system that allows everything to operate as a single unit. There have been brilliant, brilliant scientists in the past who have said, honestly, yes, the nervous system is fast. It is very fast. It is not fast enough to explain how we can do things like hit baseballs or twirl on the ice and operate as a single unit so holistically. All of this underlies everything that is happening. Our ability to get nutrients from our food, our ability to even handle emotional events because of the way they build up in us, we need to clear those out. Those are toxins of some sort as well. All of this needs to be addressed at the very fundamental level of what our body is made of.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

The word that is coming to mind right now is harmonize. If our body is an interconnected system of communication, and there is no doubt that people have a hard time thinking about the retina and the liver being connected, let us talk about something else that is easier to understand, which would be the gut in the brain. At this point, everybody knows that there is a superhighway between your gut and your brain through your vagus nerve and that what happens in the brain almost simultaneously happens in the gut. There is research that shows that when somebody has a stroke in the brain, they have an infarct. There is almost a simultaneous and immediate shift in the microbiota of the gut. We know that it is a two-way street. On the other side, we know that when something shifts inside the gut, we can see an instant shift in the brain. This shift may manifest as brain fogginess, confusion, anxiety, fear, anger, or some other emotion. But it could also be directly related to what is happening in the gut.

What is coming up for me is the harmony that harmonizes the body. This is a good segue into talking about why we would bring bioenergetics into a body-restoring protocol. In my world, in our programs, in our clinic, we start with supporting mitochondrial energy. We open the drainage pathways so that we can clear infections, and toxins, and get the body moving. We support the fascia and the lymphatics. Then we go into clearing infections from the body, particularly from the gut. We support digestion. Then and only then do we layer in the deeper detox work once all these pieces are in place. There are a lot of things we can do with supplements, food, biohacking devices, red lights, and saunas. We can use all these things to support all these areas of the body. How do we layer, and why would we layer bioenergetics? We will just take that example and go from there. How would we explain to our audience how bioenergetics layered in would help all of that work better?

Steve McCardell

Okay. Well, I will. There are two things I want to start with. I am going to mention the mitochondria, for example, just because you mentioned that is a starting place for you, and as we talked about previously, in our company, one of the things that we have been doing is understanding that bioenergy is the future of medicine. Now does not mean that there may not be a role for existing types of medicine, but the direction that everything is going in is energy because now we have the technology to do those things. You can target things much better. You cannot injure the areas you do not want to injure with something, I do not know, say chemotherapy, if you were able to target with a specific frequency only the cancer cells or something. This is the future, and it is not only going to be our company; this is the future of all medicine.

To get us there, our company is trying to make things more mainstream than what energy medicine has been in the past. We are going to universities, and we are doing studies on cell cultures and finding out how they react. One of the things that we found was when you introduced what we call an imprinted remedy, which is imprinted water. When you introduce that to the cells we found, we had controls against this as well. We would put in the water that had not been imprinted, and we would put in the imprinted water. What happened was that the mitochondria started to reproduce, and there were more mitochondria inside the cells. These mitochondria produce energy. These are what produce ATP for those who do not know. They were reproducing. They had more mitochondria inside them compared to the controls. That is just an example of how when you help the cell to sing to the right tune, to be in harmony with its environment, and to operate correctly from the very foundation of that cell then it can do more things.

We have found other things like viral protection and so on at the cellular level. This was happening in a lab, which is great because we are removing any possibility of a placebo or something like that. I know that we are doing this. That is just an example of when we are talking mitochondria. That is a good example. Now let me step a little further back. Once you start getting into the emotions that come before you have even eaten some food, we know that if you are stressed, you are not going to be absorbing your nutrients properly, and you are not going to be digesting properly. Let us talk about an emotional component. Most of us have gone through some form of shock or trauma to some degree in our lives. That simply means it was too strong for us to resolve at the moment, and it has never been resolved. 

There is something in us that is why so many people are in fight or flight because we all have these emotional stresses that we have not resolved, as well as, just using that word stress, just day-to-day stress that we do not process fully, and it builds up in us over time and ends up in the energy of our body. If that is not cleared out, it affects all the things you were talking about. It affects our energy. It affects our ability to clear out toxins. It affects our ability to absorb nutrients. It does all of this; the emotional component is important. You have to work at the level of the energy field to clear those out because that is where they reside. They are not chemical by nature. That is just a couple of examples of why I think it is very important. We can go down any of these roads further on that. But those are just a couple of things that come to mind initially.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

We are going to go down those roads. We are going to conclude the first part of this talk right here. then we are going to explore deeper. We are going to explain how to utilize bioenergetics in a protocol. This is important for practitioners to hear. This is important for consumers of health to hear how we would incorporate this. We can just use my community as an example of how we would incorporate a bioenergetic scan while we are doing gut health and detox and supporting mitochondria. Steve, I want to thank you so much for joining us today for this talk on bioenergetics for our audience. I hope you are finding this conversation insightful and helpful if you are a summit purchaser. Stay right here, because we are about to dove even deeper into this discussion with Steve. If not, click on the button on this page to get access to a continuous ocean of this conversation and many others, and get the tools you need to reclaim your health. 

If you are watching this continuation of my talk with Steve McCardell, thank you for being a valuable member of our community. We are going to dive right back into bioenergy here. Bioenergetics. You started to mention the stressors and traumas that get imprinted into our bodies. I want to say that I think sometimes people have a hard time if they have not done any transformational leadership work, childhood trauma release work, or something. Sometimes people will say there are no traumas. I am fine, but I will give you an example of something that could leave an imprint on you without you knowing it. It could have been an accidental abandonment where your mom lost you in the grocery store or the mall or something, and you were frantically lost and thought something bad was going to happen. Then maybe you were reunited with your mother and you felt everything was fine, but imprinted in your body, maybe a feeling of fear and abandonment. That is just an example. Do you have another example for me? I know this is your expertise, but I want to make sure people understand that these things happen and that we do not feel. Well, I dealt with that through a process that I found, and everything was good. The nice policeman brought me to my mom. It is over.

Steve McCardell

That is because we are thinking from an adult point of view, where we have learned to process something that would not cause trauma in us as adults. We would look back on that and think, Well, I processed that because I got reunited with my mom. What you do not realize is that the younger the child, the less filtration there is. It is received as a literal thing at a very young age. The body took on a literal abandonment. It was real. Once that resolution takes place, there is a good chance that the body is still believing that that was true. The next time mom walks around the corner or whatever you cannot see mom. Does it trigger more deeply because now you have this expectation that she has gone? There are all sorts of things. 

It is interesting that in your early years, you record things literally and do not have the same filtration. So, yes, that is a great example that you gave of how something so simple can be at different levels. Somebody who has suffered severe trauma is probably much more aware of at least the results. They may not know what caused it because a lot of these things are subconscious, but they know the results. Others of us may just have this low-level stress trauma going on all our lives, causing incidental health issues. We are wondering where those come from. many instances. I am sure you see this all the time, Laura. In many instances, somebody is saying, Well, listen, I have taken this out of my diet. I am exercising. I am doing this. I am doing that. I cannot figure out why my body is still doing this thing. Why? Because there is an emotional component to who we are.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes. It was so fascinating early on in my functional medicine career. It is no secret that I spent 21 years working for Kaiser Permanente, one of the biggest HMOs in America. 15 years into that career, I started studying functional medicine, and about six years after I started studying functional medicine, I retired from the Western medicine world altogether and stepped completely into functional medicine. Early on, when I was taking people through protocols, gut protocols, and detox protocols, I would always have a handful of people who just did not get the results of everyone else. We are all doing the same thing. I am dropping 20 pounds, I am sleeping through the night, my sexual life is great, and my mood is awesome. This is the best thing I have ever done, and then there are other people. I cannot move the needle no matter what I do. My symptoms are not going away. I am not getting better. I have worked with five other practitioners. You were my last hope, and I am still stuck. 

I would go to my mentors, the people who I mentored over the years, to train me in functional medicine. I would say, I have this person; we have done all these things, and they are stuck. do what every single one of them said to me? Every time they need to do trauma work, they need you; you are never going to supplement this away. They are never going to eat their way out of this. They are never going to solve this unless they deal with the trauma. They have trapped trauma. There is energy in their body that they have to release. Then, when you say that to somebody, they go. I do not want to do that work. They just want a pill. Do you not have a supplement for this? Is there a diet I can go on? Could I just exercise my way out of this? Is there something you have for a biohacking device? Is there something I could do? 

No, you have to deal with that. It could be big traumas or small traumas. People are listening right now who have had horrific traumas—physical, mental, and sexual. They have witnessed trauma. They have been victims of horrible crimes. We run the gamut, and then some people do not remember anything bad happening, but maybe there is a smaller trauma if we just describe childhood. People are thinking, Why can’t I get better? I was never raped. I was never beaten. I was never married to an abuser. They did not have any of these things. I say this because I have seen so many times in my practice that the people who are open to doing the energetic work—the releasing of traumas and stressors—get breakthroughs. Let us now talk about how this works. I hope this resonates with people who are feeling that there is hope. After years of trying to figure out how I could help these people and realizing that it is the trauma work that needs to be done, Now I was just referring people out, to go see a therapist. Let us go do EMDR. That is what it is, EMDR, the rapid eye. Rapid eye therapy.

Steve McCardell

I do not remember that then.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes. Anyhow, I am sending people to therapists, I am sending people to brain retraining, and I am sending people to do all these things, and sometimes they get results and sometimes they do not. Then I learned about NES Health, which is a whole different matter. It is a bioenergetic scan that tells us what is going on with the blockages in your body so you can harmonize their release and finally get those breakthroughs. You have been around the block a few times. You want to talk about some case studies of what you have experienced with the people that you have worked with over the years and the breakthroughs that they have made around this.

Steve McCardell

What are you thinking with scans? Are you thinking more about the remedy side of things? 

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Well, yes. Let us talk about both because it takes you time. You are going to get the best bang for your buck, your time, and your effort if you scan and take a remedy. But you can talk about both.

Steve McCardell

Sure.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

You can do bioenergetic remedies without a scan, but a scan helps direct and figure out what your body needs.

Steve McCardell

Correct? Yes. Look, I have just countless stories regarding the scan. The scan is just a fascinating thing, because when you first experience that, you are thinking there is no way this can work. You did think that when you first saw it.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

I am, okay, whatever. Yes. How is this going to work? But I know. My science brain knows about frequency and energy. But I am conditioned to feel that I am conditioned, there is this notion that that cannot possibly work. Yes, it has got to be harder than that.

Steve McCardell

Yes, that is right. We talked about the MRI and how if you get the exact right frequency to speak with a very specific part of the body, you can get it to respond, and you can take a reading. Although our technology works a little differently than that, it is based on the same concept of resonance. If you introduce the right signal to the body and listen for the response, you can find out if there is a match or not for what you are asking. We do this in a very proprietary way. But that is the underlying concept of speaking through resonance between you. Well, in our case, we use the voice to interact with the technology. But by doing this, what? You are saying, What are my case studies and what are my results? The insights we get are fascinating because we can dove into not only what is going on at the energy level for somebody physically, but it usually lines up uncannily with the symptoms that they are dealing with.

But it also gives us a lot of insights into what is going on for them emotionally. That is what is fascinating. While talking about case studies, I heard, for example, from one of our practitioners who works with trauma soldiers and first responders who have trauma. Most of the people he works with are men who come to see him, and they do not want to open up about emotions. As he told me, when they see their emotions facing them on the screen because they are not talking about them and they see it on the screen, they are. What’s going on? He says that opens them up to having a conversation. That is just an example of what happens when you start using a scan to assess what is going on at their energy level. I said that this would match up to so many symptoms and things like that as well. 

Now we do not claim a medical diagnosis because this is not a disease-based concept. In medicine, you are saying this is what is wrong with you. We are going to call it this, and that is not how we go about it. What we look at is what areas of the body need the most support right now. Let us give the body support because you were talking about all these pathways for cleansing toxins and all this. The body is incredible. It is built to do these things, but sometimes you need to support it so it can do its thing. It then knows how to heal it, then knows how to do what it needs to do to be strong and resilient. But you need to give it the right building blocks with nutrition, exercise, sleep, and all those lifestyle things. We are also looking at the energy component, making sure it has enough energy to communicate properly. You are clearing out some of those energetic blockages that so often come up from emotional events.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

They do so in terms of my test results; we can just talk about that a little bit. I have done two scans at this point, and the first time you read it, the second time somebody else from NES Health, her name is Patricia. She read it for me. The first time you read it, we can talk about a physical finding. That was pretty interesting because we have mentioned that it can help with a lot of things that are going on in physical biology as well as emotional biology. 

In my physical life, I do not know if you recall, but I had started, and you did not know this about me at all. I had started an intense workout routine with a trainer who was kicking my buttocks, and my scan showed that I needed muscle support. It was mind-blowing. I was, What? Next, I took the remedy. We can talk about the imprinted remedies.

Steve McCardell

Not only that, I think I asked you, and I said, What is going on with this one? We had one show up. I think that had to do with the cold and flu and immunity support. 

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes.

Steve McCardell

If you had just gotten over a cold.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Or I was fighting it because I had been traveling. I had been on an airplane and was staying in a hotel. Then I knew it was brewing. It was coming, and I was fighting it. 

Steve McCardell

Yes. There we go.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

There are those two physical things. The second time I did this, it was less about my physical body and more about my emotional body. Super personal. But I had just had an experience with my dad where we were looking at assisted living in retirement communities for him to move into. I was with him touring these places, and it was very emotional. All kinds of emotions came up. When you are now in that position with your parents, where you are helping them navigate this, all of a sudden you are the one who seems to be quicker on the uptake, and you understand the process and the systems, and you have always relied on them your whole life. You have this realization that I am the one now. It was very emotional. When we did the scan, it was just a day or two later that we did this, and all this stuff showed up around that emotional experience. She was asking me, Laura, What do you think is going on here around this, this, and this? I told her she has, Yes, this completely. It just makes sense. Generational stuff was coming up, with all these generational traumas and things, and it was, I got it. Every time, it is spot on.

Steve McCardell

Those emotions live so much in our physical bodies too that, as a bioenergetic practitioner continues to develop, one of the things that they learned to look for is, let us say, we went back and looked at that scan. I have not seen it, so I am just hearing this for the first time. But if we went back and looked at that scan, maybe there were a lot of emotional elements showing up. But maybe also, for example, the lungs were showing up. There is a lot of grief associated with the lungs. We hold this grief energy around the lungs.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

The spleen was showing up.

Steve McCardell

It has to do with worry.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes.

Steve McCardell

Yes. exactly that. We tend to think in those ways. We are, okay, is there something physical going on, or is it just physical? Is it still more in the emotions? But it is showing up in the organ. It is related to that organ. That is why we want to address the emotional issues, because if we do not, eventually they will work their way into the organ, and we do not want that to happen. 

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes. After the first one, I ordered the remedies. the imprint, you started talking about imprinted remedies. It is water with imprinted energy in it. I started that after the first round, and you get it fast. I got it within, I do not know, 48 hours to two or three days. It was here. my recovery from my workouts; these are not workouts. Every time I go, I get my butt kicked. that started to recover faster, and I was able to fight that cold a lot faster than the second time that I did this. You can do the scan every 21 days. The second time I started those remedies, it was just a few weeks ago that all this happened. I am in a huge situation, just on a personal level. I am in this huge stretch right now. 

Right now, at the time of filming this, we are a few weeks away from Christmas, and between Thanksgiving and Christmas, I have a ton of work on my plate. I am filming for this summit. It is a tremendous lift. In addition to all the regular work, my clients, and everything that we do. We are wrapping up the business for the end of the year and starting new projects. 

If I were dealing with the grief, the sadness, and the experience with my dad without some energetic support, I would not be able to be as productive as I am in these couple of weeks, and possibly my body would get run down and I would probably end up sick. I do see support and a difference. When we ran this in our community and our clients started taking the remedies, the feedback that we got from people as they started to do this was that they felt a shift and a transition as they were going through their gut healing protocol, as they were going through their detox, they felt that they had a breakthrough, that it is for people to put into words. But words broke through it; something shifted immediately, and now I am getting the results that I wanted and being completely transparent. Other people are; I do not feel anything yet. I do not feel anything. Tell me about that. I do not feel anything because sometimes people just feel it and sometimes people are not. Well, I am just trusting that this is doing something.

Steve McCardell

Yes. It does run the gamut. I have heard, and I am going to tell you at a very high level, a story that I got from a practitioner at one of our training events because it was so remarkable. I have seen things this fast, but not this severe, this fast where there was a child who had an underdeveloped brain from birth and was not able to do certain things, who, within a matter of hours of taking his first remedies, was doing things he should not have been able to do, and his parents were freaking out about what was going on. I remember hearing this story that left a deep mark on me, but I have seen similar things. I had a friend over at my house who had been running the business for a year, and it was stressing her so badly that she could not keep food down. 

Normally I do a scan, but she was oversocial, so I did not even scan her. I said, Here is some of this remedy I gave her—just a remedy that I thought might help. She kept food down that evening; it was fantastic. Sometimes you do see those very rapid results and other people they can take. What I generally tell people is that I am going to say, Look, 80%. This is always my anecdote. If I am going to take an estimate, I am going to say, Look, half the people are going to experience something in their first protocol. I am going to say probably 80% are going to experience something by their second protocol. 

I think it is not transparent to say that something works for all people. But I think that the vast majority of people get benefits from this if they give it the time because that is one of the challenges I think people run into with all sorts of healing modalities: they try it for a very short time that does not work, they move on to the next, and they never get where they are trying to go, and they do not understand what a process it is because, for one thing, even when you are healthy, health remains a process; it remains a lifestyle. Staying healthy when you have gotten sick requires much more effort to recover and then maintain it. There is always, there is always this untangling that has to happen. I would always tell people that if they want to take a method that they have learned about and have some confidence in, give it enough time—several months—to start seeing a transformation in their life and not just this thing that I had, it is gone now. It is more than that. Because, exactly as you said, with these breakthroughs, I cannot tell you how many people will come to see a practitioner. They are saying, I have this very specific symptom. I want to go away. But the first thing that happens is that they start getting better sleep, they start having more vivid dreams as emotional events are clearing out and processing, or they have more energy or things that are not what they came for but are life-changing.

Just having better sleep and more energy is life-changing, and sometimes it means reacting differently to the world around you. That is what I hear when I hear a breakthrough. A lot of people will all of a sudden be reacting to the world differently. They do not have the same triggers. All of these are life-changing. Yes, those other symptoms can be cleared up on day one. They can clear up in six months. We do not know. But I do say that those who stick it out for 2 to 3 months are going to start to see some shifts happen, especially if they are paying attention not only to the one thing they were looking for but to their life overall. By the way, Laura, and this might be true with everything you do, too, but a lot of times somebody thinks something is not changing. Then you ask their spouse, and there is a change happening for sure. They are. No, this has changed for that person. Yes, because it is day-to-day for the individual. They might not notice it as well as somebody looking in on them that well.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Now I am glad that you said that you are who you are and gave the story of the child who had instantaneous results. I have had people that, from the week that we saw them to the next week, had results. I had results pretty quickly, but I always teach in my programs that slow wins the race, and we do not know when. Your breakthrough is going to be. You are not comparing yourself to anyone else because nobody has lived the life that you have. Nobody has the imprint and Yes. Into your biology. We know that trauma creates a physical response. Depending on how many layers you have wrapped around that trauma to protect yourself and how much you have to solve, it can be a different time frame for every person. Remember that slow wins the race. Always, the only people who fail are those who quit. Truly, truly. Sometimes you just need to give therapy or treatment more time. The good news is, too: this is not a super expensive thing, which is amazing. It is not that you are spending thousands of dollars to do this.

I want to make sure that we cover the important scientific ground that we need for this talk today. We have clearly shown that layered into protocols that people are here doing functional medicine, protocols, that this is worth looking into and worth doing. We brought it into my community as an experiment. I am very transparent about that. We wanted to see: is this all it is cracked up to be? I told my audience, my courses, and my community what I wanted to see. I told my community that I do not know if this was going to work. We are going to try it. I am going to try it right along with you. If you want to do it, let us do it. We had 500 people raise their hands and say, I want to do it. It was cool. It was amazing. I am convinced that this is a worthwhile thing to bring into my programs to help people with different types of scenarios. 

If you are stuck and you cannot seem to get better, this could help unstick you. Yes. Or number two, if you are not stuck but are interested in all the support and layers of support that you can give your body so that you get lasting results and perhaps even sooner results. I just said that slow wins the race, but you may get sooner results if you layer this in. There are two types of people we are talking to here, and we are bringing them into all of our programs. Moving forward, when you come into anything that we do—private or group programs with us—we are layering it in and giving it to people as part of the program. We think it is that important.

Steve McCardell

Yes. Laurie said something important there, where you are talking about layering it in. A lot of people, when it comes to health, are, well, this is a new thing, so I have to try this, but I have to not do anything else healthy because I need to know that it was this thing.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes.

Steve McCardell

You are just shooting yourself in the foot because you have taken away all these other healthy things. What I can tell everyone is that when we spoke with them, we surveyed our practitioners. We asked them, Hey, when you combine NES with other things that you are already doing, maybe they already had practice and they introduced NES into it; did they get better results with their clients? 90% of them said yes; they got better or faster results. 

Just to your point, if somebody is just trying to get everything they can out of their health protocol and they are doing diet, they are doing exercise, they are doing these different things. Yes. This is not going to come in and be the only thing that is having an effect. It should not be. We should be living these healthy lives. We should be doing all of these things and being healthy right out of our relationships and everything because all of that impacts our well-being and our quality of life. But yes, I think layered in it helps optimize everything else you are doing.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Oh, yes. I am still not going to stop pulling glyphosate out of people’s bodies with binders and heavy metals. I am not going to stop supporting mitochondria in every way I know how and helping people open their drainage pathways and support liver health. It is all meant to layer together, and so you mentioned that bioenergetics is going to be the future. I want to dig into that a little more. We can probably end there once we talk about that because there is some research and some science around this.

This is not just a crazy statement that you are making out of thin air. There is good reason to think that bioenergetics is part of our future. Expand on that. I want to make a big invitation right now to our viewers that you are ahead of the future and that you are one of the early adopters of what is possible. Why is this a futuristic thing?

Steve McCardell

Well, I am sure we could probably pick examples even from way back in the 1900s because they were exploring the electrical and even magnetic nature of the body long ago. What happened was that the pharmaceutical industry got very strong and took over our mass consciousness in terms of health. But we have been exploring it for a long time. We have probably known there are pockets of people I have known for a long time. This is the future. But we are now at a point where technology does not allow us to ignore that. 

First of all, we can share our knowledge online about what we are seeing, but they are also able to do things with lasers and measure things at tiny, tiny scales that they could not before. They can now make a science of it. One of the things that stood out for me when I was around in my clinic many years ago was that 15 years ago I came across this article about research done at the University of Michigan, where they were measuring the electrical fields inside the cell in the cytosol, the gel inside the cell. The paradigm at the time was that there should not be any electric fields in it. They found electric fields as high as 15 million volts per meter.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Okay, what does that mean? What else is 15 million volts for?

Steve McCardell

You are nowhere; I believe you are nowhere near that standing directly under the mass electric wires, those huge transformers, and other things. I think you are nowhere near that. I know that in the article they give you some examples, but it is ridiculously high. It is like being in a lightning storm.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Inside.

Steve McCardell

Inside ourselves. 

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

They must have a good buffering system because we are not exploding.

Steve McCardell

We are amazing. That is all I can say. These types of things say, Hey, listen, our old models are just breaking down, and we are understanding more and more about the electrical nature of things. We are now understanding that things that they thought were only quantum. For example, entanglement is a quantum idea where two things are speaking in real-time. You affect this one, and it instantly, at any distance, affects the other one. Any distance that we have in a universe.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

We have an.

Steve McCardell

Across the universe.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Is there an example of an entanglement?

Steve McCardell

Yes. Scientists do this all the time. They will send bits of information. They can take the spin of one, and it will alter the spin of the other. Again, these can be miles apart. It could be light years apart. It will happen instantaneously solely because they are entangled. This is something that Einstein called a spooky action at a distance. We thought that these things only happened at the atomic and subatomic levels, but now they are finding they can entangle molecules. We are just going to go from here. It is just going to get more and more fascinating to see what they are doing, and they have been doing this for many years. They can manipulate DNA with light. They can manipulate DNA with sound; they can manipulate it with magnetic fields.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes.

Steve McCardell

This is mainstream research. It has been around for years. If you think.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Steve, it has been used as a bioweapon. This is very real.

Steve McCardell

Yes. If you do not think that they are not going to use those things as the future of medicine, when they can target individual cells and the DNA and all that, well, they can learn how to target these things. We know they are working on nanobots right now. They are working on nanobots. They can reproduce themselves limitlessly. They are going to be able to put things in your body to do whatever. I am not a big fan of necessarily all that, but keep it from outside of me and shoot a laser into me that fixes something great. 

This is the direction that medicine is going because it will become faster, more efficient, and more accurate. As long as we have people in the health space that want to get you, well, this will be the future. If they do not want to get you too well, they will try to suppress it. That is my opinion.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes. I think that this technology was already here in the 30s, 40s, or so. We already have.

Steve McCardell

RIF or something.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Yes. We were already on to this, and the pharmaceutical industry took over, so the sad part is that you have to follow the dollar. Right.

Steve McCardell

Do you do that?

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

This would solve a lot of health problems that would crush one industry. To do that, the pharmaceutical industry would implode if we could solve problems with bioenergetics. We can, and I know this talk is probably just blowing people’s minds, and I am grateful that you are here to talk about it because it is a complex concept to wrap our minds around. Unless you are living and researching in the bioenergy field, it is a whole different concept that we do not understand. But in terms of what we never thought was possible, how the heck do I talk on a cell phone? How the heck do I pull up the Internet here and go shopping with it? How do I take my phone and put it up to a gas pump, and it charges my bank, and I walk away with gas? There are things that we take for granted every day that are wildly crazy, and we just think they are normal. Why wouldn’t it be normal for you?

Steve McCardell

Yes, I will just say that in the next five years, the ability for technology to screen you for disease and things like that with A.I. and whether people are A.I. or not, technology’s going to develop with A.I. That is going to allow you to screen with devices very rapidly. We do not screen for disease. They will have screening for disease in the next couple of years. You just watch; this is going to explode, and it will transform how medicine is done. Hopefully, it is in the right hands so it transforms medicine for the better for the people.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

We hope to be on the cutting edge of things. I want to use things that work, and that is why I use so many different types of modalities and support in our programs because we are not going to eat our way out of this. We are going to supplement our way out of this. We are going to biohacker our way out of this. It is a combination of all these things that will support your body. Any final words before we wrap up, I am going to give you the floor and the pearls of wisdom you had to drop on our audience before we complete today. What else would you want them to know?

Steve McCardell

Well, I will just end with this. Your theme here is Silent Killers. But the silence is also where our genius flows through us. Who we are is so much more than this physical body. If we think that we are chemistry and that we are only going to be made well by chemistry, we have to remember how much bigger we are. When we create something, when we love somebody, or when we do something special, we are exuding something much bigger than this chemical body here. We have to remember that we are emotions, thoughts, and consciousness. We are flowing through this energy system, out into this body, and that is why when you are, Laura, guiding people on this holistic journey, tackling all these different areas, you are tackling much more of the whole self. People have to not think of themselves as just what is in front of them, but as the silent, the invisible, that is them too. That is what I would leave you with.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

That was so good. Right off the top of your head. Good. Okay, where can people find out more about NES Health? I know that we are going to have a NES Health guide that is free to download. When people sign up for this summit, they can find information at NES Health. You can also work with NES Health practitioners. If you ever work in any of my programs with me, you will have access to NES Health scans. It is not something that you can just go do without a practitioner, but where can you find out more information about NES Health?

Steve McCardell

Well, to your point, I think everybody who is signed up is going to have access to a free ebook, Restore Your Energy with Bioenergetics. It is designed to strike a balance between easy reading and enough science that is interesting. There are a lot of practical steps to building up one’s energy. I think it is a fast-paced but also informative read that will tell them a lot. If they do not have easy access to that, maybe they could reach out to our staff and get a copy or something. 

But they should, I believe, have access through this summit. That is a great way to learn more about this if they want. Then, of course, just reaching out to your staff and saying, Hey, listen, I would love to have a first scan. Let me dive in with one scan to see what this is all about. That is how you learn about new areas of life. That is what I would encourage people to do: take a read and explore it.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Absolutely. Thank you so much, Steve. It is always a pleasure. I cannot wait to have you back in our classes and our community. It is so much fun when you get to collaborate with people you think are cool. Thank you.

Steve McCardell

Well, it is awesome to be here. Thank you so much.

Laura Frontiero, FNP-BC

Take care everyone. Bye now.